Please feel free to clip, repost, or reupload any part of this speech on any platform without asking for permission. (But do tag me so I can share it!) It would be greatly appreciated if you could share this as widely as possible. Thank you for being willing to consider the interests of those who can't argue for themselves.
@@mello.b3373 he acknowledged that even vegans harm animals in some way. Just because you must cause some harm to survive provides no justification to cause more harm than necessary
I saw this talk in person. Alex slept in till noon, got up, threw a few last minute notes together (in a loud room), and still gave a better talk than I could ever hope to. Great job, man. Look forward to seeing you again soon. :)
Holy Koolaid ........do you find Alex's arguments compelling enough to make significant changes in the way you choose to consume products of animal exploitation?
Still can't believe you made this huge jump and went vegan - now even expanding your topic of official debates and talks. I'm extremely impressed and motivated!
Yeah I still remember the backyard roundtable he had last year where he was against it but couldn't place his finger on it why. Now that he's looked at it on his own, the change to fully acceptance is really cool to see. Also cool how he is now advocating as the benefit of going vegan per amount of effort exerted outpaces nearly all other ideals in current events.
@@JayJayYUP That reminds me of myself. Last year on my birthday I ate with my family at a place that's literally called "just meat", and as of now I haven't deliberately eaten any animal products in at least 6 months and am planning to take my family to a nice vegan place for my birthday this year
@@ohmree Thats super great to hear. My family is far less accepting of something like that. I'm glad you're making some headway though, and congratz on the 6 months, thats usually the worst hump to get over (practicing the vegan diet, while also putting up with learning whole new food cooking methods, so it's double work). But it only get easier from here on out. Good luck man!
It makes me so happy to see someone who talks about philosophy and ethics in an academic environment genuinely put their arguments into practice in real life. It shows that Alex is as morally upstanding as he is intelligent
@@Eesalitepill99 there are logical reasons as to why you should go vegan. He brought up the issue of ecological and environmental destruction. Also, in places where it's convenient, you also have economic incentive to switch to a plant-based diet. Did you even watch the video?
Whoever did the Spanish subtitles, thank you. Not for myself; I'm a native English speaker. But that's incredibly helpful for spreading the word to more people.
I like how it's been about 13 minutes since the video was uploaded and people are already saying how appalled and disappointed they are with Alex. *After not having even watched half of it.*
Why do you need to listen to the whole presentation to disagree with it? I never really understood that. Is that in case the speaker will say in final sentence "Sike, just kidding"? Maybe people just disagree with the first half and it seems to them like a lost time to finish. When I hear people explaining to me how meat is essential food you cant go a day without I can pretty much disagree right from the start right?
@@Duffynez Because how can one say they are disappointed in someone without having actually listened to their point they're supposed to be disappointed in? If they didn't like the first half, cool. But how can you judge the first half without knowing if the second half expands on the problem you have. It's like criticising an artist's painting that they've not finished yet.
@@Duffynez why can't I just assume I know what he's gonna say and judge him based on that? I have a really hard time believing you are actually that ignorant...
@@fibbintiggins2858 I dont think I am. For example if they spotted some huge logical fallacy said by their favourite person, why wouldnt they? Although I agree with Alex and think everything he said is sound, I can be wrong and maybe someone else spotted it. Isnt that fine? I would argue they should say exactly why they said they are dissapointed, but saying it in middle of the video isnt really a problem here IMO.
@Tyler It's not just about diet. If I were to try to stop a rapist from raping a woman, you wouldnt say "Stop imposing your sexuality and what you find pleasure in on other people"
@@mello.b3373 I'm not vegan, but what you say is untrue and clearly said in ill faith. The vegans that I have seen online and met are for the most part rational, intelligent people that came to that conclusion via research. Instead of dogmatically following the default
@@mello.b3373 There are in fact MANY scientific papers relating meat to sever illness, here are just 3, I'll happily get more if you wish. jaoa.org/article.aspx?articleid=2517494 www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat#:~:text=Red%20and%20processed%20meats%20do%20increase%20health%20risks.&text=Hu%20says%20that%20an%20accumulated,different%20studies%2C%22%20he%20says. care.diabetesjournals.org/content/43/2/265
For a long time I’ve felt I had to make changes to my meat consumption and use of animal products, but lacked the ‘kick up the arse’ I needed to do so. Your recent videos changed that. You’re making a difference. Cheers.
Hey ! it's nice to see you're making a change :) If you need any help, ressources, or anything, just ask :) Challenge22.com might be of help, it's a free thing you can subscribe to and get recipes and advices AND a mentor that will help you for free for 22 days regarding veganism.
@MKN III If you're making the switch I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
It's the same for me. I know that eating animal products is wrong since 5 years, but did not have the courage to practice veganism. Now I think the time has come.
@@mello.b3373 Alex has an immense appreciation for logic and facts; that's why he calls himself a skeptic. There are certain areas where he may be biased, however, if facts are to debunk his position I'm certain he would take that on and change his stance. Judging by his previous videos on veganism, an extreme amount of thought and consideration went into his position and thinking. He is concerned with what is right and ethical- this can be seen in his activism for the atheist movement and in his secularism. I truly don't believe so many fallacious mistakes could've been made by a university student taking philosophy.
@@mello.b3373 Vegan diets have been expressed by many of the world's largest dietetics organisations to be viable for all stages of life. Peer-reviewed scientific research exists to support this, and one of the most commonly cited and discussed publications is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics on vegetarian diets.
Essentially, you can meet the body's nutritional needs on a vegan diet with the aid of B12 supplements.
Yes, he doesn’t rely on the dogmatic arguments that so many other vegans rely on. He doesn’t hijack people’s amygdalae any more than he needs to. No guilt-tripping, just facts.
@@mello.b3373 Since that comment you just left had no real substance, I'll just respond to what you said above to other people who replied: I've been vegan for almost five years now, and I'm quite physically healthy. There have been no significant changes in my health since I went vegan. You go on and on about Alex having no real premise, or a false premise to start with, but then you claim that "biology" is the premise of everything somehow, whatever the hell that even means. Alex is talking about veganism from a moral standpoint, and he doesn't assume any premises when making these moral arguments. He explicitly stated that he was trying to base his arguments on premises that the vast majority would already agree on anyway. So if you agree that reducing the overall suffering in the world is a good thing, then you should agree that veganism is good for achieving that goal. Any significant, life-disrupting negative effects to human health that veganism has is not substantiated, and if it exists, then I am living proof that it is very minimal, so I'd say it's well worth the positive effects it has on the world. It doesn't matter if humans were not "meant" to be vegan. We can be, and by doing so, we're keeping some animals from enduring suffering of unimaginable magnitudes. And even if we needed to eat certain animal products to survive, if you truly care about reducing suffering in the world, why don't you go check out lab-grown meat or go hunt for all your own food if you don't already? It would be far more ethical than buying meat from factory farms. But I would suggest that you try out veganism, and if you find that you start withering away, even when eating enough and doing everything right, then come back. Prove me wrong. But I would suggest that it's at least worth a try considering how much needless suffering you could eliminate.
I follow you for years, while being vegan for 3 years now. I have to say, I'm so proud and so flabbergasted to see you grow and especially being so brave to help this important cause by being open about this matter. You dared to be that 'annoying preaching vegan', because you couldn't refute the logical and philosophical arguments in favour of veganism, so you are living your life in line with your moral beliefs. It really warms my heart to see people grow and trying to plant those seeds in other in their own way.
I can’t applaud you enough for putting your money where your mouth is. You realized this is the right thing to do and you have taken action to speak up about it. Keep it up, Alex. You’ll be a major factor in turning this world vegan.
Alex is actually the reason I went vegan. When he first brought up the subject of animal cruelty I started gradually going vegetarian but as I read more about it I found more reason to go fully vegan, so I thank you for helping me find information about this. You have truly changed my life.
As a new vegan, if you're not already I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
@Luke Reid I dont think the moral argument they use if valid because morality only exists within the social contract; animals cannot reject the social contract nor actively participate in it thus we have no obligation to moral considerations. That isnt to say I condone cruelty for cruelty's sake, but I think in the same way animals dying to produce a crop is an acceptable loss as butchering animals is for food.
@Luke Reid I agree, after a fashion. Thing is you need a reason why beyond, "Because they're not us" guiding your reasoning. For me the clear line is intelligence. With higher intelligence comes higher awareness of self, and a higher awareness of suffering, and the basic building blocks of more advanced communication would would be critical to being able to observe the social contract.
Alex made me push towards Vegetarianism over the last few months of my life, and I'm working to slowly transition toward veganism. It's a journey, but it's worth it.
Hey ! That's nice to hear ! Check Challenge22.com if you need some help regarding your transition. You can also check youtube channels like : The easy vegan (Simple recipes, extremly fun videos) Brian Turner, Hench Herbivore (Bodybuilding & Nutrition, recipies ideas) Mic the vegan (science stuff regarding nutrition) Gojiman (Gut health & Nutrition) If you need anything else, feel free to ask !
Literally the same. His video about vegetarianism in April I think was the final push for me. I thought great, it feels nice not to harm animals. And then in September I saw clip of his video talking about how we get milk... Yeah I know what the next step is. Step that I think I will take sooner rather then later .
Aviator I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
@Zachary Stewart Taste is hardly an extraordinary justification. Meat is also not very convenient when compared to preparing other foods. How exactly does bad treatment of livestock equate to prevention of natural suffering.
@Zachary Stewart there are also plenty of smokers that seem healthy. If you take those meat eaters and look closely they aren't as healthy as you think : higher cholesterol , higher blood pressure , increased risk of cancer and heart diseasse. They seem healthy from the outside .
@Rob Lowe Biggest nutritional associations in the world like the American Dietetic Association and British Dietetic Association agree that a Vegan diet is nutritional adequate,healthy,and may even provide health benefits. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19562864/ www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html We don't need meat or any other animal products to survive. That's only your excuse to harm innocent animals.
Wait'Till His Bodily Reserves Run Out... He'll Go Back To Eating Animal,Probably Straight CARNIVORE, After He Finds Out How SHITE The Vegan "Diet" Really Can Be. IT IS NOT A One Size Fits All LifeStyle. THE WORLD WILL NEVER GO VEGAN.
@@nunyadambidniss it's a fallacy to presume that just because the world will never give something up completely that we shouldn't try to eliminate. as for bodily reserves running out, funny how there's adults who have been vegan since birth who never had any reserves in the first place.
True! He is incredibly talented at speaking that every sentence comes out uncluttered and precise, and every single word has a meaning. I am truly amazed by his skill!
If Alex got a lot of 'I'm unsubscribing' comments from followers, then let me proudly introduce myself as part of the 'I'm subscribing' crew. This talk blew my god damn socks off. You are an incredible speaker. Big respect. *NB: been vegan for almost 3 years now and I feel fantastic.*
Another member of the "I'm subscribing" crew here. Alex's channel was recommended to me when I was lamenting the lack of crossover between the skeptic and vegan communities.
@@Uniruusu That's exactly the problem. We are at the top of the food chain. We don't shame a Lion for killing a Gazelle. Why should we shame a human for eating a pig?
How was I eating animal products for 23 years of my life while claiming I love animals... 😢 Moral revolution needs to happen very soon. Thank you Alex for fighting for the right thing!
''Moral Revolution'' ah yes, your Christian, Buddhist, Ascetic objective morals being pushed as transcendental obligations and imperatives. Guess what? No ethical or moral obligations exist in reality. Go read Humes Guillotine.
Humans have been eating meat for 10,000 years and this guy Alex declares it "a moral emergency", and then flip-flops like a fish and declares himself no longer a vegan.......arrogance to the core........evolution is so interested in the modern vegan's opinion.......
I became an ethical vegan overnight and as it is for most, it has been quite an emotional journey. Knowing your wonderful video is out there, along with so many positive comments just makes me happy. 🌱💚
@@djsega4289 Okay sure, the wild can be a dangerous place - for humans too. But how does what happens out there justify what we do in animal agriculture? Just because we are unable to prevent all suffering and death in the wild, does that make it acceptable to inflict as much of it as we like behind closed doors?
@@alreadyvegan my point is that suffering is inevitable, all we can try do is minimise it where we can. All the animals we have on farms do not have pleasant lives in the wild (they starve to death, get hunted, die from disease, die alone when they are too old to keep up with the pack etc) and honestly while they are alive have a BETTER life on a farm (I am talking about non-factory farms). Keep in mind that all the farming is for the benefit of humans - farmers don't farm because they like torturing animals or anything. There is no long term study that shows that a vegan diet is optimal for health and so while I don't feel good about animals dying I know its for the benefit of my family and will always choose human welfare above that of a animal. If you ever have children I implore you not to risk their health on a vegan diet, especially while they are young.
@@djsega4289 "Suffering is inevitable" - sure thing. But what you mean is "the suffering I cause is inevitable" - and that's just wrong. If there's gonna be suffering anyway shouldn't people just beat their children for fun and fitness? Why would that be wrong? And minimizing the suffering is literally all vegans want. One of the biggest and easiest ways to minimize suffering is to stop supporting those industries that abuse sentient beings. If you truly did want to minimize suffering (as in, try to have the smallest amount possible of it) you'd go vegan
Alex. I grew up on a dairy farm and was strongly opposed to the rhetoric being posed by a lot of vegan activists. I have followed you for more than 4 years and helped me a bunch dealing with the moral questions I had after leaving my religion 7 years back. Your openness and sincerity when approaching hard topics such as this is such an inspiration. You opened me up enough to the moral questions about animal products that after some honest dialogue with friends about veganism I also decided a month ago to switch. Again you give so much inspiration to keep thinking and improving on our values. So much respect from me! Also, wish me luck when I visit my parents on the family farm for Christmas. I have a feeling that this is gonna be an even harder pill to swallow for my dad than me not being Christian anymore. :(
Everyone I know, including myself, grew up culturally conditioned into believing that not only is it morally permissible to exploit and kill animals for human whims and desires but that it was somehow necessary that we consume the cadavers of killed animals. A healthy vegan now for more than 27 years, I can unequivocally say that it's the best thing I've ever done because I no longer am choosing to make myself complicit in preventable intentional needless violence perpetrated upon innocent sentient individuals.
@Ash I'd reccomend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
This was an amazing presentation. being a meat eater my natural instincts after watching were to check out "cage free" or "free range" meat products. I was mortified to see the same unethical practices so I decided to become vegan thanks for opening my eyes.
Isn't it weird how our minds work? We decide to give animals enough mortal value to be duped by humane labels, yet we don't consider giving them enough value to just leave them alone entirely.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@cynicalidealist11 That's really silly. Existing in a food chain for millions of years isn't "animal abuse". Naive humans making themselves feel all warm and fuzzy inside believing they care about animals when all they are really doing is unknowingly feeding their own egos. In fact, it's hard to find something more egotistical than believing you are the arbiter of morality.
This young man is steadily on his way to becoming one of the gretest thinkers of our time. Also with an incredible eloquence. I am extremely looking forward to watching this man and his ideas grow.
This people are dangerous. One day they will call to kill millions of people in the name of VEGANISM... (which is an UNNATURAL diet, but PHYSIOLOGY is something you can't understand)
@the Lost Q not at all. He has said several things I didn't agree with. After listening to his reasoning behind those, I have no good arguments against them.
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@@communistrussia so I've been vegan for a month now I kinda hate chia seeds though, and I need omega 3s I'll need 3 oz of walnuts per day for enough omega 3 and that is a lot, so I'm kinda struggling...😅
it was this exact speech that finally made me go vegan. Alex, you have no idea how much I appreciate what your are doing. I still can't believe that I used to be this insensitive towards animals, myself, and the planet for 18 years of my life. Thank you so much for your hard work and I hope that you continue what your are doing for as long as you can.
I'm never going to quit eating meat but I'm also never going to quit listening to people I disagree with. Rogan's podcast would certainly give Alex a lot more exposure.
Alex, I know you get a lot of “I'm unsubscribing” comments for speaking out about Veganism; if it means anything, I already loved your channel before and love it a hell of a lot more now because of your advocacy of veganism. You're doing great work, thank you.
I wonder what these unsubscribers are thinking. Apparently Alex is not allowed to have his own opinions about certain topics. They want him to be a clone of themselves. I am not a vegan, but Alex makes me think about very interesting topics. He is well spoken, civilized, cultured. I would never unsubscribe. He does not have to be me, and I do not have to be him..
@@silentstarlight3322 I think that meat is convenient for human pleasure and survival, even if there are supplements and vegan alternatives. It is simply my will to eat and survive with pleasure. This is why the whole world eats meat. Pleasure and convenience are good reasons.
@@silentstarlight3322 yeah and we eat plants so why don't we suck the ground for water, suck some co2 from the air for oxygen? Plants get made from that so why don't we?
I want to make an appeal to everyone reading these comments. Whether or not you agree with his conclusions, understand this: Alex truly believes that this is the greatest moral emergency that we currently face. I don't think anyone is doubtful of his convictions. What greater proof do we have of his moral virtue and integrity than for him to actively choose to speak on a polarizing issue knowing that he will lose followers for the sole purpose that it will make the world a better place. Does this not show that his desire to do what he believes to be moral overrides his desire to be admired and applauded? He could have just as easily spoken on topics that everyone will happily agree on such as metaethics and religion to an audience of atheists, but please cherish the fact that he didn't. Can you not see how similar this situation is to the atheists of the past when faced with the religious public?
@@falcongamer58 Thank you for sharing. I don't think we can choose to be convinced or not, we can only hear the arguments and we are either convinced or unconvinced. Discussions are always helpful though, and so I'd be interested to hear more of your opinion on this topic, of course if you wish to discuss :)
@Pieter Jan Zijlstra also it's not because it's "non-egotistical" That sounded more like guilt-shaming. Herbivores eventually get eaten, carnivores eventually succumb to micro beings, micro beings eventually get consumed by vegetation, vegetation eventually gets eaten by herbivores That's just the natural order, it's okay if you don't wanna participate in it but it's not okay to force someone out of it
There are a lot of very good vegan swaps out there now it's amazing! Unnatural Vegan is a sensible vegan who produces well informed and researched videos. She also shows and tests vegan swaps. In vitro meat is also soon to be. Good luck on your journey!
Dis Dude awesome! if you want some help and inspiration, check out www.challenge22.com . you can have a mentor, tons of recipes and talk to a registered dietician, all for free! its a wonderful opportunity. have fun with it and enjoy the journey! ❤🌎🐾
I went vegan in 2018 and it was so much easier than I expected! So many vegan options today 😊 not only do I eat healthier but I really enjoy eating so much more than I used to which was a surprise! My taste buds really changed
Phil Kesler ... Oh well Phil my dear chap, you see it’s a matter of culture! A matter of tradition! You wouldn’t say “chips and fish” or “Dec and Ant” would you? Now you know full well I’m right dear chap so don’t even try to disagree!
@@vaelinlaornas I think his mental problems were caused by the fact that he realized he was a selfish pos and didn't have any moral backbone and will find any excuse possible to go back to stuffing his face with tortured flesh of baby chicks again and how would he deal with the backlash 🤔
Conversely, it seems the Alex of this video the immature one to so vehemently, emphatically proclaim and promote an idealogy that he himself had followed for not more than a few months. Championing a cause without testing his own mettle indicates an unseasoned mind.
If you need any help, feel free to ask any vegan. We will always be here to help. A great place to start is by going to Challenge22.com, there you can subscribe for free and get recipes, advices, and a mentor that will help you for 22 days. Plenty of youtube channels to get knowledge from : Brian Turner, Hench Herbivore (Bodybuilding and recipes ideas) Mic The Vegan (Science stuff regarding a vegan diet) Gojiman (Gut health & nutrition facts) I can provide more information if asked to. Good luck on your vegan journey !
Very good presentation. I've been vegetarian for about 6 months now, and after watching this I may consider exploring a fully vegan diet. Keep up the good work.
Good luck on your vegan journey ! Apparently if you go on Challenge22.com you can have a mentor for free and advices for 22 days, might be of help. Also, check youtubes channels like Hench Herbivore & Brian turner & The easy vegan (for recipes ideas), Mic the Vegan (if you're interested in the science regarding veganism),... There are a ton of other channels ^^'. Oh, and recently Earthling Ed (Extremly great yt channel) released hidden footage of what happens in the Dairy Industry in the UK : th-cam.com/video/x9sSDTbJ8WI/w-d-xo.html You might want to take a look. And why not at the documentary Dominion too : www.dominionmovement.com/watch
NathanielRoarkProductions you should and I wish you good luck if you do so 😊 As Alex said, in the egg industry male chicks are macerated alive for being male. So half of them are killed and the other half is exploited to produce more eggs. And in the dairy industry the same happens with male calfs. They are killed and the female ones grow up drinking something that’s not milk, just a liquid mixture of cereals, so the dairy farmer has more cow’s milk to sell to humans. If that’s not absurd enough for you I tell you that cows are forcibly impregnated and their (female) calfs are taken away from day after 24 hours (males are just killed straight away). But cows are very maternal beings, and both mum and baby suffer with the separation. There’s a lot of deaths and suffering in the egg and dairy industry. Again, good luck!
Right. I've come back to watch it a few times, he absolutely nails it. I love that reason and logic led him to veganism. He explored the rational philosophy of veganism, saw that he was behaving immorally, and adjusted his lifestyle. It's a shame most people find that so difficult to do.
21:05 *Nearly brought me to tears with this compassionate conviction* ..........thank you Alex for being so courageous and having the integrity to stand up for what will be seen by most people as a moral obligation within a generation.
Here in Brazil, veganism is gaining more power, too. I'm doing my part, talking about animal ethics, reading and writing about, and posting videos here at TH-cam.
@@AlyssonAugusto There is nothing wrong with eating animals. Alot of species eat animals and so do we. The only problem with the modern age in my opinion is factory farming. If the animals are living freely and someone hunts them down for food there is nothing ethical wrong about it. Sure it is not nice to see, but nature isn't always nice or do you think the Lion is a cruel animal for killing other animals for food. Nature has always worked that way and always will, the only thing we can do better is abandoning factory farming and not buying their products. I personally just buy food from my region and where i know how the animals are being treated. I don't eat very much meat, but i don't want to live entirely without it.
@@Yumuichi just search about hume's guillotine or naturalistic fallacy. The is-ought problem can't be resolved only because you believe that's not wrong in doing what seems natural. Murder, rape and other things like that are really natural at nature. If you defend this... Well, I rest my case.
It truely blows me away how you, Alex, shifted my perspective on veganism in that short amount of time. I think its weired how i never really spent a deep thought to that topic because of the...lets say...non existend thrillingnes of it (at least this is how i percieved it before). As soon as you started framing it as a moral problem and a philosophical question you really got me hooked. As a person whom would call himself a rational thinker this really bugs me. Thank you for shifting my perspective i really am thinking about what you just said. You are a brave man for standing up for veganism as it often is portraied as a practice groundet in ideology (at least i see others thinking that on social media). I want you to know that your words are powerful and your honesty and rationalisation makes me look up to you as an individual. If you ever read this, Alex, thank you so much for shaping me and many others into a free thinking human being. Best regards, Chris
This is one of the most convincing speeches I have heard on veganism ever. I have been vegan for six years now, but you have just reignited my spark to get involved in activism. You articulated everything perfectly and have a talent that has the potential to make the world a better place. Keep producing this amazing content, you have a new subscriber :)
@@benc.3128im a meat eater and I can tell you, this dude is just crazy, also obsessed. I read almost all his comments... He didn't make a single point worth considering.
I have a question, what if a person was born without the ability to feel pain, to understand danger and had the intellect of a chicken. Weird yes but would it be wrong to kill them? Why does killing something that can’t feel or understand pain. Why is it not wrong to eat plants. In my opinion vegans are a little arrogant because they think that their mortal reasoning is somehow a wiser course than that of nature, that we ought to follow our reasoning alone instead of following the course of nature.
@@themadhouse8583 The analogy you gave doesn't really correlate to a plant. It's not that a plant can't feel or understand pain. Plants cant feel or understand anything, they have zero consciousness, they experience nothing, they are like rocks or bacteria. But you yourself do not live in accordance with nature. Your using the internet right now. Do you live indoors? Use medicine? Perhaps you're short sighted and wear glasses, would that be wrong because it's not in accordance with nature? And by the way Veganism is far better for the environment so if you care about the natural world if that's another point in favour of Veganism. Harvard Law review: “Climate change. Ocean dead zones. Fisheries depletion. Species extinction. Deforestation. World hunger. Food safety. Heart disease. Obesity. Diabetes. The list goes on. There is one issue at the heart of all these global problems that is too often overlooked by private individuals and policy makers alike-our demand for and reliance on animal products.” harvardelr.com/2015/10/26/elrs-a-leading-cause-of-everything-one-industry-that-is-destroying-our-planet-and-our-ability-to-thrive-on-it/
Q , far better than ...eating FK CORPSES (that require land and crops ...resources ) . W T F !? Watch the damn video again ( asuming you watched it ) .
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@mayganphynix8267 thank you for following up! I've seen your other comments on here offering up resources and thought it was grand 😊😁 I've been for almost 4 yrs now, only wish I'd done it sooner ❤
@@mayganphynix8267 definitely for the animals. Have since learned more about the other good reasons for it, but nothing rises to their level 🐒🐕🐩🐈🐅🐆🐎🐂🐃🐄🐖🐗🐏🐑🐐🐘🐰🦃🐔🐓🐣🐤🐥🐦🐟🐠🐙🐚
João Farias oh yes. agreed. I first got interested in it (I first went Pescetarian), because of an animal rights flyer at a music festival that had lots of info. ☺
I completely understand that it is a risk to post veganism related topics on a channel as discussion often gets heated and people are often very polarised on the topic. This is why we must support people speaking out against injustice. Massive support for you Alex, you've given me lots of talking points and have further substantiated my belief that veganism is the future for our world.
I don't agree with it but I respect the choice. Unless we can reduce what we consume into a "pill" that doesn't harm anything, even plants, then I would consider it. My hope is (the human race) to be a starfaring species and I understand that it will be convenient to have our consumption to be condensed into a "pill" form that is not made of organic matter... I'm getting way off topic. I get it, the way we consume now is "too" impersonal.
@@airiksg817 airiksg817 This is not an argument. Your relationship to animals doesn't depend on the invention of a wonder pill "Extraordinary harm and mistreatment requires extraordinary justification."
@@airiksg817 I'm not sure if you're aware, but plants can't feel pain, they can react to stimuli but certainly aren't sentient. Animals evolved to feel pain in order to escape negative stimuli, it would make zero evolutionary sense for plants to develop this trait as they cannot escape.
This is among the greatest speeches on animal rights of all time. You are brilliant my friend, and we will win this fight for liberation. Together we rise.
As a long time vegan who has felt lonely frustrated and hopeless more times than one can count, I wanted to thank you. It was so reassuring to hear that someone else's life mission is to end this animal holocaust. I know its not of much relevance to the video but I just felt like hugging you really really hard when you mentioned that. You are literally one of the people I look up to the most and I'm grateful to the universe that you're using your voice on behalf of animals. I saw your pain and frustration too. Know that you're not alone in this fight against animal exploitation and know that your voice is incredibly powerful and having an incredibly positive impact.
I am so glad to see this type of comment. As a vegan I know how gut wrenching is to try to express my point of view and explain the benefits of going vegan and being mocked because of it. It’s a constant feeling of powerlessness, of frustration. I feel better knowing that I am not alone, that there are other amazing people on this boat too. It may sound cliche but, together we are stronger❤️
Finally a speech which can introduce people to veganism without the need to use any logical fallacies. Thank you for all you are doing for the animals. If you don't mind I'd like to add Spanish captions to this video.
@@mello.b3373 Are you trolling? Under several comments you commented that he's wrong and when someone ask you for the debunking you write 3x the link to this very video. Considering I have already verified the information in this video, it also seems unlikely to have an actual debunking but I would still interested what the point of the other side are.
@@sebassanchezc-1379 actually, new evidence presented shows that early humans (our kind of humans, the early homo sapiens) as well as the gladiators were predominantly vegan. Look it up
@@alyssajager3745 no. There is no such evidence of "early humans". Just bunch of monkeys. The evidence says the more meat those MONKEYS eat the bigger the brains are. The full potential of our genetics is reached when the more meat we eat. It never was a vegan culture in human history. Not because of ideology but because it's is physiologically impossible. There are essential nutrients that are only available in animal products you brainwashed There is no other way to synthesize those molecules 🤣🤣🤣🤣 there are not in vegetable of any kind. By the way Game changers is pure BS.
@@alyssajager3745 since when people believe everything Hollywood says? Really? Do you know something about PHYSIOLOGY or biochemistry? Look for ex-vegan sharing their experiences and vegan deterioration on TH-cam. There you have the full picture
@@sebassanchezc-1379 there is actually. This is the doi number of the study that was conducted: doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0110489. Exactly what molecules do you think you cannot get from plants?
@@Uniruusu I'm not trying to insult you, but I seriously have noticed a trend of vegans being a bit hyper emotional. Don't know if they were like that and then become vegan, or if are like that cause of being vegan.
@@djsega4289 You're right, some vegans are a bit hyper emotional. I don't see it exclusively as a vegan thing though. I've seen it in almost any group, regardless their gender, race, sexual preference or ideology.
I wish I could like this a million times!!! This is the sort of passion that comes from getting the true information on what actually happens before the innocent beings end up on our plates. It is gut wrenching, incredibly cruel and really hard to justify. Well done for speaking up Alex. Even without the environmental and health benefits that come with going vegan, it is a no brainer from an ethical, compassionate point of view
I love this channel, the man behind it, and his well thought out arguments. I know I am going to get alot of hate and negative comments from the vegan community that I am a monster and/or a murderer, for what I am going to say. Here goes: I am not vegan. Nor will I ever be. Simply because Animals are not Humans. That's it. I am pro-life because those babies are Humans. That's why. And I will not unsubscribe from CosmicSkeptic because he's taking this stance. Because I believe in listening to people you disagree with and that it's wrong to stay in your own echo chamber. Because ignorance is dangerous. I am Christian and I started watching this channel to get another perspective. I haven't unsubscribed because he's Atheist, and I won't because he's taking this stance on Veganism. I respect his arguments and his reasoning. I think that people need to be okay with disagreeing. I love this channel's community and I hope this won't turn into a hateful space for people such as myself because I don't think the same as you do. That's what I wanted to say. I will continue watching this channel and hearing him out.
@@chasingclouds9176 Just curious, how much of this video did you watch? Simply wondering because he talks about comparing animals to humans within the first 10 minutes of the talk as far as I remember. Regardless, good on you for being open to listen to opposing points of view.*
im so glad to see your ethical consistency throughout my time watching you and your ability to change your mind based on new evidence presented. so many will try their best to be eithically consistent in every way they can except on veganism and actively making invalid excuses to not have to change
@@tuomas2639 yeah but you also arent producing cats for food and last i checked a life eating grass then a piston to the head isnt torture. Farm animals need us as much as we need them. I dont support torture i support treating the animal well then eating it. No worthwhile farmer fucks with his product.
Good luck!! A month should be just about enough to get through the hardest phase. It can be a challenge overthrowing your old habits. But once you have the basics down, it becomes completely intuitive over time. I found that what worked for me in the beginning was being strict with myself (so I wouldn't become complacent again, just to kind of reinforce the recognition that my actions had consequences) and just pushing through until I had down the recipes, the places to eat out, the tips and tricks... Hands down the best decision of my life though. I hope it will be the same for you!
@@anakinnetzellceron4891 it's hard to find vegan alternatives where i live too and sure, you can find rice and beans pretty much everywhere but are you expecting people to eat only rice and beans all the time? they're going to be sick of that eventually and aside from that, what about the nutrition values?
I stumbled upon "Animal Liberation" by accident when I was about 13 or fourteen. I feel so fortunate that I found it. That book led me down the rabbit hole of documentaries like "Earthlings" something that has been burned into my mind. Thank you for your hard work. Glad to be someone on the right side of history✊
That movie made me go vegan mid day. Literally like 1pm Sep 2nd 2017 lol. It was that serious of a shift for me. I've cried over not having cheese, but that movie made sure I didn't break. ❤🌱
@@tinker651 Soem vegan cheeses are pretty fantastic these days - i actually eat more cheese now since going vegan than i used to when i was a carnist :p And they are getting better all the time too! Thanks for not breaking!
I was honord to attend the speech, it was hypnotyzing and convincing. At first I thought the crowd would get mad for being forced to listen to for a vegan speech, BUT ultimately they appereciate his straightforward and courage to give that kind of speech.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@kenhiett5266 Facts shows that a vegan diet is healthy in all stages of life, from born to elderly, this states the American nutrition organiztion, not a vegan organization. Secondly, philosophers debated this issue, and the majority conculuded that not exploiting animals when you don't need it to survive, is superior morally. And to conclude that someone is ashamed of is existence is an ndicattion of the speaker ... Vegans can be ashamed of what man kind causing to other animals, it doesn't decrease their own self-worth.
@@sery152 If you believe veganism is superior morally than you don't understand morality, it's origins, or its implementation. That's an argument I would be happy to have with you but you won't like the outcome, I assure you. In regards to your argument concerning health; almost any diet is preferable to the standard American diet among the masses. However, meat is not only healthy when eaten in moderation, it is literally responsible for that large brain you are using to wage this argument. That large brain of yours evolved specifically because your ancestors had access to meat.
@@sery152 I don't have much more time at the moment, but we can address this question of morality tomorrow. Morality is where this conversation gets much more interesting and complex.
@@kenhiett5266 give me your strongest argument and if I'll show you that you can't be certain about it you'll consider all your other arguments as well.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
Alex, I haven't enough words to explain how brilliant you are. You calmly, intelligently, thought provokingly and unapologetically lay out an argument so strong that you will have even the most avid bacon enthusiast (myself included) standing corrected by your message. Have linked the video to my friends, and do hope that they, too, see reason.
@@CosmicSkeptic I would just like to concur with Life Of Tennis and echo his assertions as well. I will certainly be sharing this video as best I can to as many as possible, but I would LOVE to see you debate Jordan Peterson about veganism. I know he appreciates data also, so once he decides to be ingenuous, I'm certain he'll get off of his anecdotal evidence carnivore diet branding. For what it's worth, I also suspect that he did indeed experience symptom relief from his carnivore diet, but this does not indicate better health outcomes. For all intents and purposes, he was likely worsening his health outcomes whilst simultaneously mitigating his symptoms. However, I am not qualified enough to feel like I can make any claims there. I know you're already aquainted with Isaac (Ask Yourself), so I suspect you are aware of Dr. Avi, who is the vegan doctor I recommend for all health questions with respect to veganism vs. consuming animal products. Anyways, thanks again for this truly exceptional work. This is the best speech in defense of veganism that I've ever heard, bar none. Blessings to you always brother 🙏💯🌱🌎♾️
@@Eesalitepill99 None of it was exaggerated, everything he described about the meat industry were just facts. You could say those other things about any moral issue you didn't like -- if you thought it was acceptable to murder people and I gave you a passionate speech about the rights of human beings, you could say this was an 'appeal to guilt' or fear. What logical reason are you hoping for? An equation? We're not robots, all morality is fundamentally emotional. Alex didn't even attempt to give you a meta-ethical framework to decide what is right and wrong, he just explained why consuming animal products is inconsistent with most people's framework that they appear to apply in all other settings.
I'm actually seriously considering becoming vegan after this. I have no issue with literally anything he said and I agree with literally he's said so far but still for reasons I can not communicate coherently, something is holding me back from actually taking that step. edit: I'm glad to say I've made the switch. its been about a month and a half since I've completely stopped eating meat but it's still early days, so I wouldn't consider myself 100% vegan yet, as I still eat eggs, fish, and other dairy products. I'm still adjusting to all this as time goes by but hopefully, I can take the next steps to become a full vegan.
@OfficialrRlMusic Then try to take small steps maybe. For instance, say to yourself "today I'm not eating animal products" instead of thinking "I can never eat/use animal products again" and see how that goes and how it makes you feel and go from there. Make it a challenge. Try to watch (more) animal cruelty/pro vegan videos. Watch street activism videos and see how silly people sound trying to defend eating animals; th-cam.com/video/eO5ABZPeg0k/w-d-xo.html There's so many videos by him and others like Earthling Ed, Joey Carbstrong, Amazing Vegan Outreach, Benny the Vegan, That Vegan Couple, Humane Hancock e.a. Happy you're considering going vegan, hope you'll give it a good go :) ❤
@@Thepostmoderncynic I also find it helpful to constantly remind myself why I'm doing it. Watch Dominion (documentary), more videos like these, follows vegans on Twitter.
I've been vegan almost ten years and still have cold feet and hands. It's a medical condition. This is why we can't always use health as a reason to do it. If i became plant-based thinking my hands and feet would stop being cold, and then it didnt work, I might switch back to being omnivore. Being vegan is about more than just a diet or fad. I'm glad you've seen improvement but the animals are the reason for being vegan.
Frankly i agree w/ Alex though i get to his/my preference via a different route......I actually think he could just as easily successfully debated the antithesis if thats the conclusion he wanted to have. Let's face it, most adopt veganism b/c the net loss (if any) doesn't outweigh the net benefit. The benefits are many and people adopt it for different reasons...it could be anything or any combination of things from personal taste preferences, to moral obligation/personal ethics code.... (it subjectively feels right and therefore i will gain more pleasure from feeling im doing right,ie personal pleasure), moral superiority (ie personal pleasure via self discipline/choices that others dont make), individual health benefits (ie self-preservation/extension of self awareness).......there can certainly also be other beneficial factors that intermingle such as politics reasons (that encapsulates a lot), social (this depends if your conforming to your peer group or rebelling and each has a personal gain depending on the type person you are). As I stated in the first sentence.....the net loss to an individual vs the net cost is negligible, if anything i think Alex could/would/did make the case that there is a net benefit.......thats actually the selling point...its not actually a sacrifice...its not like people have to skip 4 meals in a row every time they eat to achieve this. I also dont think he would find this a rational argument pre-agriculture times or in some future fucked up scenario in which its either eat meat or self dies or suffers.............which therefore makes the argument not only subjective but also circumstantial/era relevant
@@tenzinsorbi8103 Except vegans are attempting to use morality in an unprecedented/distorted manner. If you study the origins, history, and implementation of morality it doesn't apply to the consumption of meat. Morality came about in a variety of ways, (social and evolutionary) but there is no doubt why it came about. As homo sapiens started forming groups, cooperating, and communicating in much higher resolution than animals, (i.e. becoming human) morality became a necessity. This is why morals have always pertained to implications between humans and for humans. Consuming meat has no such implications. My fellow humans can live without fear of me whether I consume meat products or not. Attempting to make the consumption of meat a moral issue has always been an intellectual sleight of hand. An effective sleight of hand that takes advantage of human emotion, but an intellectual sleight of hand nonetheless.
Very nice to hear from long term vegans. I've only been vegan for nearly a year. And non vegans always say it will negatively affect my health in the long term.
Kirana if you don't already I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
Kirana Aisyah doesn’t think for a moment that “Jordan D” is typing his comment for you; he has copy-pasted that same shill for dodgy supplements all over the comments on this vid. Don’t misunderstand me, he makes a very valid point that B12, D2, D3, and iodine are not naturally found in plant products, and they are all important for good health, but you don’t need to use his special “veg1” supplement; all are routinely added to preprocessed foods like breads and breakfast cereals, and there are many OTC multivitamin supplements that contain not just B12 and D but riboflavin, folic acid, C, iron, manganese, etc etc. Talk to your doctor or other health professional before you follow the advice of random comments on TH-cam 😉
you’ve been one of my favourite channels for 2 years now, i’m very happy to see people i look up to making the kinder choice and promoting veganism :-)
@Mysterium Lugosi Would you elaborate\clarify your position more? I'm unsure if you simply want more notice given to the effects of farming (both plant and animal), or you are trying to make another point which is escaping me.
@Mysterium Lugosi Yes. I take it from your reply you were referring to something Alex said. I've had a drink, so I'm likely overlooking something obvious. I'll re-watch later and see if it makes more sense then. Thanks for the reply.
@Mysterium Lugosi You can't completely abolish human caused suffering to animals, but you can surely reduce it. Think about a doctor who surely can't save everybody, decides to save none because of this reason, wouldn't make a lot of sense, would it? And fun fact: If the entire world would switch to eating only plants, hypothetical speaking, farmland the size of Africa could be reduced, meaning less destruction of land, use of pesticides and so on. This is minus 76% of all farmland, which could be reforested to improve biodiversity. Not even speaking of the destruction of the sea that is currently taking place. science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/987
It was a great lecture I have to say that you were right, you really managed to upset some people in the audience. Thank you so much for coming. It was nice to meet you and have dinner with you, Drew and Thomas. I hope you will visit Israel again soon
@@mello.b3373 Great. Pain, death, torture and suffering is part of a world I don't wish to live in. Thank you for this confirmation of the pointless struggle of humanity against inhuman amoral nature of the universe; guess I'll go kill myself since there's no meaning or morality to existence. Death is just biology, after all. Your view on humanity as being powerless to define our morality against suffering is nihilistic - but so am I, so I agree. There's no point to anything, congrats. I will see you in the next life. Lmao.
@@mello.b3373 i do not agree with you, but i belive that living things who are less merited then the general human population don't deserve life. thats why i think disabled people should be aborted while unborn, people who are 70 or lower iq need to work in labor, and not vote, thats why i think down syndromed people should be euthanized, and i agree that eating meat isn't bad. i am a geniuene meat eater. if you don't belive the things i belive and still eat meat, i don't respect you, because you're a hypocrite.
For anyone saying you have to eat meat to survive you don't. I'm 25 and my sister and I, have never eaten any meat and my parents have been vegi for 25 years both and vegan for 5 years. My wife has been vegi for 6 years and vegan for 6. All of us have great health and I've only been to the doctor's 4 times in my life, last time being last month for a blood test.
Chase Alder good for you, not everyone has the same body. Some people have allergies of other disorders that make removing meat from the diet deadly and impossible.
@@maxgoldsmith9 I know but that will only be 0.001 % of the population. Many more people are lactose intolerant and there are plenty of people who are allergic to meat. But everyone else without allergies can eat vegan all the time with no issues. Even those with allergies would have a work around no one can eat just meat and nothing else.
As you can see from reading what I've written at no point have I told you what to do. I've only stated what can be done. I'm just saying for those people who do care about animals, the planet and their fellow humans that this is the best option.
I'm 30 and I've only been to the doctor once. I eat meat and vegetables. My ancestors ate mainly meat to survive as vegetables don't grow here in the winter and climate is too cold. Sheeps find food in the mountains, you can't grow any crops there or anything else. And also the sea provides us with fish. Therefore meat is the best source for nutrition and most natural way to get food.
@@chasealder343 Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a common disorder that affects the large intestine. Just as lactose intolerant there are many people that are intolerant to vegetables... You are spreading false information, it's very rare that someone is allergic to meat. Most of those who are allergic to meat have been bitten by a certain type of tick.
Quite literally this is one of the very best speeches I have ever heard on veganism and it's really brave and inspiring you said all of that THERE to a bunch of non-vegans and posted the video on your channel. I feel inspired now to be more active even though I am already a vegan activist :) Also you going vegan and being so passionate about it was a shock to me since I initially subscribed for your channel for the atheism content but KEEP GOING man
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@nottodaytay5858 I would stick to straw manning and avoid getting into an actual conversation about this topic. Right now you feel all warm and virtuous, but it's a thin veil of ignorance indeed.
Coming to this speech After Alex announced he's no longer vegan in his latest TH-cam post a few hours ago. I never thought I'd come back to this speech one day to say this. Disappointing!
Thank you so much for speaking on the animals behalf! I’ve been watching you for years and I freaked out when you posted your first veganism video. I love what you do Alex!
Well put........it is that unapologetic stance Alex takes on the issue of animal rights that I too am so inspired by. Absolutely the right and morally responsible stance!
Plants don't ask either. Yet we kill them too. Yes, we do kill plants, they're alive being. It's not moral at all to chose that a living being deserves less to live just because it's less intelligent. At least omnivores can understand that and respect life they take. Vegans don't respect the life they take.
@@xord1946 We don't give moral conideration to plants because they aren't sentient. And you kill more plants if you are not vegan because it takes in average 7 plant calories to produce 1 animal calorie.
If you base how worthy you consider a living being to live on its intelligence, then I agree. You vegans and us are doing essentially the same thing. You just chose a different specy than me to focus on. Also, using biblical kind of arguments will not work against me. I say biblical because your arguments holds only for vegans, but I just stated that I understand we need to kill in order to survive, so that's fine by me if plants die in the process. You do miss the important point that those plants would die anyway... whether we consume the animal or not.
sara m well done! If you need any help there’s lots of resources online. I’m on a vegan facebook group from the city I live, so if I have any questions people are always happy to help. Also follow Earthling Ed, he’s Alex’s friend and he’s so clever as well. 💚
Hey I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
Please check out the game changers th-cam.com/video/xSChFnszI_E/w-d-xo.html for more fact-bombs and DOMINION th-cam.com/video/LQRAfJyEsko/w-d-xo.html When you finally find out exactly what is going on, the actually impossibly difficult thing would be NOT to go vegan. Best of luck!!
You just sound like devoted christians the way you talk. Emotions should not be your primary weapon in order to convert people, but logic. Stop using fallacies to promote your life choice and assert yourself as a superior being for making that choice.
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Mello.B33 we are herbivores. Prove to me that we are not. It’s funny that humans think killing for food is nature but when it happens to us we all get our guns and kill a mountain lion for attacking us I stared of saying “oh well it’s part of life”. Humans want mimic one thing that lions do don’t want to do anything else.
@@mello.b3373 Our closest living relatives - chimpanzees, gorillas and bonobos - whose digestive system is virtually identical to ours, are mostly herbivorous. They also all have canines which are much bigger and stronger than ours. If we were really natural omnivores, we wouldn't need to use tools to kill the animals we eat, nor would we need to cook their meat and cut it up into little bits with a carving knife.
@@mello.b3373 In just hand-waving everything that's been said you make it all-too-obvious that you're just burying your head in the sand, and are even in denial about your own denialism. If you want to persist in your cruel and selfish dietary choices and keep eating corpses and animal secretions, no-one can stop you. But don't pretend to anyone, especially not yourself, that you have ethics, biology or even your own personal interests on your side.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@kenhiett5266 you made claims without backing them which is ironically the antithesis of what Alex has done. I would like to hear why his logical arguments on morality rebut the case for veganism.
Great speech man, well done! And you answered the questions really well. I switched to a plant based diet earlier this year for environmental reasons because there was no denying the impact animal agriculture has on the environment. And after realising how easy it was to eat a plant based diet, and that we can be perfectly healthy, tracked my nutrients on the app Cronometer and was getting every nutrient needed. Feel great! It was only then I started to look into the ethical side of eating animals, watched the documentary "Earthlings" and vowed I would never contribute to animal exploitation ever again. People need to be educated on this abhorrently cruel and incredibly unsustainable industry.
Your way of talking and the way you present the problem and the logic behind your arguments is incredibly admirable. I have recently stopped eating meat and consuming dairy and I do believe that your speech is a huge reason for that. Thank you, keep doing great.
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Thank you for your honesty on all topics including this one! I went vegan in April 2018 as soon as I realized that I could survive and be healthy without contributing to so much of this suffering and injustice.
@@Eesalitepill99 If you own one, then you could. But we can't change the nature of the other species, just ours (which we consider morally superior to other animals).
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Please feel free to clip, repost, or reupload any part of this speech on any platform without asking for permission. (But do tag me so I can share it!) It would be greatly appreciated if you could share this as widely as possible. Thank you for being willing to consider the interests of those who can't argue for themselves.
Your presentation forced me to do some serious contemplation.
Come to india u will not even realise that u were vegiterian all the time as indian food is very tasty and pure veg
Thank you so much for this speech. Your really starting to remind me of a less emotionally firey gary yourovsky.
@@mello.b3373 he acknowledged that even vegans harm animals in some way. Just because you must cause some harm to survive provides no justification to cause more harm than necessary
Should we oppress and exploit babies and disabled people too, just because they can't argue for themselves?
I saw this talk in person. Alex slept in till noon, got up, threw a few last minute notes together (in a loud room), and still gave a better talk than I could ever hope to. Great job, man. Look forward to seeing you again soon. :)
Your talk was great too
I really enjoyed it
Holy Koolaid that’s an icon right there 😂
Holy Koolaid ........do you find Alex's arguments compelling enough to make significant changes in the way you choose to consume products of animal exploitation?
Holy Koolaid Thank you for waking him up! Love your channel too!
@@LouisGedo Or ANY change for what it's worth. :)
Still can't believe you made this huge jump and went vegan - now even expanding your topic of official debates and talks. I'm extremely impressed and motivated!
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Yeah I still remember the backyard roundtable he had last year where he was against it but couldn't place his finger on it why. Now that he's looked at it on his own, the change to fully acceptance is really cool to see.
Also cool how he is now advocating as the benefit of going vegan per amount of effort exerted outpaces nearly all other ideals in current events.
@@JayJayYUP That reminds me of myself. Last year on my birthday I ate with my family at a place that's literally called "just meat", and as of now I haven't deliberately eaten any animal products in at least 6 months and am planning to take my family to a nice vegan place for my birthday this year
@@ohmree Thats super great to hear. My family is far less accepting of something like that. I'm glad you're making some headway though, and congratz on the 6 months, thats usually the worst hump to get over (practicing the vegan diet, while also putting up with learning whole new food cooking methods, so it's double work). But it only get easier from here on out. Good luck man!
It makes me so happy to see someone who talks about philosophy and ethics in an academic environment genuinely put their arguments into practice in real life. It shows that Alex is as morally upstanding as he is intelligent
A lot of Hyperbole
over exaggeration
Appeal to guilt
Appeal to fear
No logical reason why
@@Eesalitepill99 there are logical reasons as to why you should go vegan. He brought up the issue of ecological and environmental destruction. Also, in places where it's convenient, you also have economic incentive to switch to a plant-based diet. Did you even watch the video?
Whoever did the Spanish subtitles, thank you. Not for myself; I'm a native English speaker. But that's incredibly helpful for spreading the word to more people.
I wish other languages where on there!
There's now Turkish too.
@@mayganphynix8267 hello, French dude who lived in Spain way too much to consider myself French, I think I might go vegan
As a Spanish speaker, I just notice there are Spanish subtitles... well, gotta watch it again, then :D
I though that was automatically done by youtube, isn't it?
I honestly hesitated to click on this video becuase I knew Alex would convince me even more to go vegan.
That makes you one of the few intelligent and honest people here.
Yeah, im a vegetarian but after seeing this I think im finally done eating cheese
you and me both! 😂
Now don't forget to send this speech to friends who haven't quite made these connections yet 💚
If you agree with the utilitarian ideology he follows, then maybe. I not convinced by the slightest that utilitarianism is a concise philosophy.
"It's explosive everywhere and that's the point!" Exactly
I like how it's been about 13 minutes since the video was uploaded and people are already saying how appalled and disappointed they are with Alex. *After not having even watched half of it.*
Why do you need to listen to the whole presentation to disagree with it? I never really understood that. Is that in case the speaker will say in final sentence "Sike, just kidding"? Maybe people just disagree with the first half and it seems to them like a lost time to finish. When I hear people explaining to me how meat is essential food you cant go a day without I can pretty much disagree right from the start right?
Mates Brunát saying you disagree with an idea isn’t nearly as extreme as being appalled or disappointed in a person.
@@Duffynez Because how can one say they are disappointed in someone without having actually listened to their point they're supposed to be disappointed in?
If they didn't like the first half, cool. But how can you judge the first half without knowing if the second half expands on the problem you have. It's like criticising an artist's painting that they've not finished yet.
@@Duffynez why can't I just assume I know what he's gonna say and judge him based on that? I have a really hard time believing you are actually that ignorant...
@@fibbintiggins2858 I dont think I am. For example if they spotted some huge logical fallacy said by their favourite person, why wouldnt they? Although I agree with Alex and think everything he said is sound, I can be wrong and maybe someone else spotted it. Isnt that fine? I would argue they should say exactly why they said they are dissapointed, but saying it in middle of the video isnt really a problem here IMO.
The most annoying thing about vegans is... that they're kind of right.
That's what ppl hate about vegans the most :P
@@mello.b3373 how?
I'm not even vegan myself...
@Tyler It's not just about diet. If I were to try to stop a rapist from raping a woman, you wouldnt say "Stop imposing your sexuality and what you find pleasure in on other people"
@@mello.b3373
I'm not vegan, but what you say is untrue and clearly said in ill faith.
The vegans that I have seen online and met are for the most part rational, intelligent people that came to that conclusion via research. Instead of dogmatically following the default
@@mello.b3373 There are in fact MANY scientific papers relating meat to sever illness, here are just 3, I'll happily get more if you wish.
jaoa.org/article.aspx?articleid=2517494
www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat#:~:text=Red%20and%20processed%20meats%20do%20increase%20health%20risks.&text=Hu%20says%20that%20an%20accumulated,different%20studies%2C%22%20he%20says.
care.diabetesjournals.org/content/43/2/265
For a long time I’ve felt I had to make changes to my meat consumption and use of animal products, but lacked the ‘kick up the arse’ I needed to do so. Your recent videos changed that. You’re making a difference. Cheers.
Hey ! it's nice to see you're making a change :)
If you need any help, ressources, or anything, just ask :)
Challenge22.com might be of help, it's a free thing you can subscribe to and get recipes and advices AND a mentor that will help you for free for 22 days regarding veganism.
Way to go here. Vegan atheist here, at least nine years.
wonderful. thank you for your willingness to listen. ❤
@MKN III If you're making the switch I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
It's the same for me. I know that eating animal products is wrong since 5 years, but did not have the courage to practice veganism. Now I think the time has come.
Hell yes!! Love to see that you’re not shying away from speaking on this issue!!
Yes......zzzzzzactly!
Catherine Klein yes this is an incredible speech
Gedo . faldcneft (c - corpsivores) .
Vegan all the way.
Clothing and hunt for parts is not okay but yummy food in my belly is good. God put animals here to feed us okay?
That is frankly the most convincing argument for the cause of veganism I have ever heard.
For not just the content but also the delivery?
@@bellywood7688 yes
Do it.
I bet you still don’t go vegan.
@@techtipsuk do you know each other?
This man articulates the logic and message of veganism so perfectly, and he hasnt even been vegan for a year. I'm proud to be represented by him.
@@mello.b3373 Alex has an immense appreciation for logic and facts; that's why he calls himself a skeptic. There are certain areas where he may be biased, however, if facts are to debunk his position I'm certain he would take that on and change his stance. Judging by his previous videos on veganism, an extreme amount of thought and consideration went into his position and thinking. He is concerned with what is right and ethical- this can be seen in his activism for the atheist movement and in his secularism. I truly don't believe so many fallacious mistakes could've been made by a university student taking philosophy.
@@mello.b3373 Vegan diets have been expressed by many of the world's largest dietetics organisations to be viable for all stages of life. Peer-reviewed scientific research exists to support this, and one of the most commonly cited and discussed publications is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics on vegetarian diets.
Essentially, you can meet the body's nutritional needs on a vegan diet with the aid of B12 supplements.
@@mello.b3373 do you really believe such claims? You are only lying to yourself
Yes, he doesn’t rely on the dogmatic arguments that so many other vegans rely on. He doesn’t hijack people’s amygdalae any more than he needs to. No guilt-tripping, just facts.
@@mello.b3373 Since that comment you just left had no real substance, I'll just respond to what you said above to other people who replied: I've been vegan for almost five years now, and I'm quite physically healthy. There have been no significant changes in my health since I went vegan. You go on and on about Alex having no real premise, or a false premise to start with, but then you claim that "biology" is the premise of everything somehow, whatever the hell that even means. Alex is talking about veganism from a moral standpoint, and he doesn't assume any premises when making these moral arguments. He explicitly stated that he was trying to base his arguments on premises that the vast majority would already agree on anyway. So if you agree that reducing the overall suffering in the world is a good thing, then you should agree that veganism is good for achieving that goal. Any significant, life-disrupting negative effects to human health that veganism has is not substantiated, and if it exists, then I am living proof that it is very minimal, so I'd say it's well worth the positive effects it has on the world. It doesn't matter if humans were not "meant" to be vegan. We can be, and by doing so, we're keeping some animals from enduring suffering of unimaginable magnitudes. And even if we needed to eat certain animal products to survive, if you truly care about reducing suffering in the world, why don't you go check out lab-grown meat or go hunt for all your own food if you don't already? It would be far more ethical than buying meat from factory farms. But I would suggest that you try out veganism, and if you find that you start withering away, even when eating enough and doing everything right, then come back. Prove me wrong. But I would suggest that it's at least worth a try considering how much needless suffering you could eliminate.
I follow you for years, while being vegan for 3 years now.
I have to say, I'm so proud and so flabbergasted to see you grow and especially being so brave to help this important cause by being open about this matter.
You dared to be that 'annoying preaching vegan', because you couldn't refute the logical and philosophical arguments in favour of veganism, so you are living your life in line with your moral beliefs. It really warms my heart to see people grow and trying to plant those seeds in other in their own way.
I can’t applaud you enough for putting your money where your mouth is.
You realized this is the right thing to do and you have taken action to speak up about it.
Keep it up, Alex. You’ll be a major factor in turning this world vegan.
Alex is actually the reason I went vegan. When he first brought up the subject of animal cruelty I started gradually going vegetarian but as I read more about it I found more reason to go fully vegan, so I thank you for helping me find information about this. You have truly changed my life.
LordOfIllusion your comment makes me so happy. ❤
As a new vegan, if you're not already I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
Jordan D thank you, although I have talked to my nutritionist and worked out a plan to get the needed vitamins and calories this was helpful:)
@Luke Reid I dont think the moral argument they use if valid because morality only exists within the social contract; animals cannot reject the social contract nor actively participate in it thus we have no obligation to moral considerations. That isnt to say I condone cruelty for cruelty's sake, but I think in the same way animals dying to produce a crop is an acceptable loss as butchering animals is for food.
@Luke Reid I agree, after a fashion. Thing is you need a reason why beyond, "Because they're not us" guiding your reasoning. For me the clear line is intelligence. With higher intelligence comes higher awareness of self, and a higher awareness of suffering, and the basic building blocks of more advanced communication would would be critical to being able to observe the social contract.
Anyone else hear Hitchen's voice and attitude speaking through alex? what an eloquent speaker god damn
Precisely
Alex made me push towards Vegetarianism over the last few months of my life, and I'm working to slowly transition toward veganism. It's a journey, but it's worth it.
Hey ! That's nice to hear ! Check Challenge22.com if you need some help regarding your transition.
You can also check youtube channels like :
The easy vegan (Simple recipes, extremly fun videos)
Brian Turner, Hench Herbivore (Bodybuilding & Nutrition, recipies ideas)
Mic the vegan (science stuff regarding nutrition)
Gojiman (Gut health & Nutrition)
If you need anything else, feel free to ask !
Literally the same. His video about vegetarianism in April I think was the final push for me. I thought great, it feels nice not to harm animals. And then in September I saw clip of his video talking about how we get milk... Yeah I know what the next step is. Step that I think I will take sooner rather then later .
Going vegan was the best decision of my life more than 27 years ago......looking forward to the next several decades of living vegan!
Aviator Mage so awesome!!
Aviator I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
O'Connor's razor: ''Extraordinary harm requires extraordinary justification.''
@Zachary Stewart Taste is hardly an extraordinary justification. Meat is also not very convenient when compared to preparing other foods. How exactly does bad treatment of livestock equate to prevention of natural suffering.
@Zachary Stewart convenience and taste are the only ones. Meat is highly unhealthy as proven by modern science.
@Zachary Stewart there are also plenty of smokers that seem healthy. If you take those meat eaters and look closely they aren't as healthy as you think : higher cholesterol , higher blood pressure , increased risk of cancer and heart diseasse. They seem healthy from the outside .
@Rob Lowe we don't need animal products to stay alive.
@Rob Lowe Biggest nutritional associations in the world like the American Dietetic Association and British Dietetic Association agree that a Vegan diet is nutritional adequate,healthy,and may even provide health benefits.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19562864/
www.bda.uk.com/resource/british-dietetic-association-confirms-well-planned-vegan-diets-can-support-healthy-living-in-people-of-all-ages.html
We don't need meat or any other animal products to survive. That's only your excuse to harm innocent animals.
been vegan less than a year and already doing serious activism. fantastic work.
Wait'Till His Bodily Reserves Run Out...
He'll Go Back To Eating Animal,Probably Straight CARNIVORE,
After He Finds Out How SHITE The Vegan "Diet" Really Can Be.
IT IS NOT A One Size Fits All LifeStyle.
THE WORLD WILL NEVER GO VEGAN.
@@nunyadambidniss it's a fallacy to presume that just because the world will never give something up completely that we shouldn't try to eliminate.
as for bodily reserves running out, funny how there's adults who have been vegan since birth who never had any reserves in the first place.
@@JordanDinstrumentals all vegans look like shit. Especially when they are older.
And there are alot of Babies/Children Who're Suffering &DYING on a Vegan Diet.
It's NOT A One Size Fits All LifeStyle.
Nunya Dambidniss And there are a lot of children/babies suffering and dying on a non-vegan diet.
Almost every sentence in this speech can be turned into a meaningful quote
"there are no accidents"
Exactly right.
Ya exactly lol
He’s that sort of guy isn’t he?
True! He is incredibly talented at speaking that every sentence comes out uncluttered and precise, and every single word has a meaning. I am truly amazed by his skill!
If Alex got a lot of 'I'm unsubscribing' comments from followers, then let me proudly introduce myself as part of the 'I'm subscribing' crew. This talk blew my god damn socks off. You are an incredible speaker. Big respect. *NB: been vegan for almost 3 years now and I feel fantastic.*
I strongly disagree with him but I’m not in-subscribing
@@djsega4289 I disagree with some content
Part of the I'm subscribing crew as well
no he is a manipulative idiot
Another member of the "I'm subscribing" crew here. Alex's channel was recommended to me when I was lamenting the lack of crossover between the skeptic and vegan communities.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence... extraordinary harm and mistreatment requires extraordinary justification."
We don't treat even the worst of criminals the way we do these innocent animals. Their only crime is to be born into different species.
Or extraordinarily psychotic mind :/
@@Uniruusu That's exactly the problem. We are at the top of the food chain. We don't shame a Lion for killing a Gazelle. Why should we shame a human for eating a pig?
I’m hungry.
@@Eloozionist Lions need to eat meat for survival, humans don't. Lions also kill the cubs of other prides. Do you think we should do that too?
Alex is such a role model. I don't think I know of anyone else so intelligent with so much moral integrity.
How was I eating animal products for 23 years of my life while claiming I love animals... 😢 Moral revolution needs to happen very soon. Thank you Alex for fighting for the right thing!
Don’t beat yourself down ❤ as long as you love you can make a change! :)
''Moral Revolution'' ah yes, your Christian, Buddhist, Ascetic objective morals being pushed as transcendental obligations and imperatives. Guess what? No ethical or moral obligations exist in reality. Go read Humes Guillotine.
Because you didn't love animals and that's fine you don't have to.
Humans have been eating meat for 10,000 years and this guy Alex declares it "a moral emergency", and then flip-flops like a fish and declares himself no longer a vegan.......arrogance to the core........evolution is so interested in the modern vegan's opinion.......
I became an ethical vegan overnight and as it is for most, it has been quite an emotional journey. Knowing your wonderful video is out there, along with so many positive comments just makes me happy. 🌱💚
You know that animals suffer and die in the wild too right? If everyone went vegan animals wouldn’t be living in the garden of eden...
@@djsega4289 Okay sure, the wild can be a dangerous place - for humans too. But how does what happens out there justify what we do in animal agriculture? Just because we are unable to prevent all suffering and death in the wild, does that make it acceptable to inflict as much of it as we like behind closed doors?
@@alreadyvegan my point is that suffering is inevitable, all we can try do is minimise it where we can. All the animals we have on farms do not have pleasant lives in the wild (they starve to death, get hunted, die from disease, die alone when they are too old to keep up with the pack etc) and honestly while they are alive have a BETTER life on a farm (I am talking about non-factory farms). Keep in mind that all the farming is for the benefit of humans - farmers don't farm because they like torturing animals or anything.
There is no long term study that shows that a vegan diet is optimal for health and so while I don't feel good about animals dying I know its for the benefit of my family and will always choose human welfare above that of a animal. If you ever have children I implore you not to risk their health on a vegan diet, especially while they are young.
@@djsega4289 "Suffering is inevitable" - sure thing. But what you mean is "the suffering I cause is inevitable" - and that's just wrong. If there's gonna be suffering anyway shouldn't people just beat their children for fun and fitness? Why would that be wrong?
And minimizing the suffering is literally all vegans want. One of the biggest and easiest ways to minimize suffering is to stop supporting those industries that abuse sentient beings.
If you truly did want to minimize suffering (as in, try to have the smallest amount possible of it) you'd go vegan
@@ohmree Your own health is suffering by going vegan. I believe that animal suffering is worthwhile to improve my health whereas you do not.
Alex. I grew up on a dairy farm and was strongly opposed to the rhetoric being posed by a lot of vegan activists. I have followed you for more than 4 years and helped me a bunch dealing with the moral questions I had after leaving my religion 7 years back. Your openness and sincerity when approaching hard topics such as this is such an inspiration. You opened me up enough to the moral questions about animal products that after some honest dialogue with friends about veganism I also decided a month ago to switch.
Again you give so much inspiration to keep thinking and improving on our values. So much respect from me!
Also, wish me luck when I visit my parents on the family farm for Christmas. I have a feeling that this is gonna be an even harder pill to swallow for my dad than me not being Christian anymore. :(
Congratulations. Believe in you! Let's be friends. Down with dairy!
Everyone I know, including myself, grew up culturally conditioned into believing that not only is it morally permissible to exploit and kill animals for human whims and desires but that it was somehow necessary that we consume the cadavers of killed animals.
A healthy vegan now for more than 27 years, I can unequivocally say that it's the best thing I've ever done because I no longer am choosing to make myself complicit in preventable intentional needless violence perpetrated upon innocent sentient individuals.
Good luck to you!
thank you! You're awesome. it will be a challenge, but thank you for doing the right thing. ❤
@Ash I'd reccomend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
This was an amazing presentation. being a meat eater my natural instincts after watching were to check out "cage free" or "free range" meat products. I was mortified to see the same unethical practices so I decided to become vegan thanks for opening my eyes.
Ethan Morgan how sad is that? I was considering "humane" dairy and eggs at one point. I'm so glad I didnt fall for it!
Isn't it weird how our minds work? We decide to give animals enough mortal value to be duped by humane labels, yet we don't consider giving them enough value to just leave them alone entirely.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
Veganism is really simple and obvious if you just consider it with an open mind. If you're against animal abuse, go vegan.
2 + 2 = 4
@@cynicalidealist11 That's really silly. Existing in a food chain for millions of years isn't "animal abuse". Naive humans making themselves feel all warm and fuzzy inside believing they care about animals when all they are really doing is unknowingly feeding their own egos. In fact, it's hard to find something more egotistical than believing you are the arbiter of morality.
"I will stop preaching, ladies and gentleman about the torture of innocent animals when the torture ceases to exist"
innocent is extraneous. Can an animal be guilty? And does guilt entail torture would be ok?
This young man is steadily on his way to becoming one of the gretest thinkers of our time. Also with an incredible eloquence. I am extremely looking forward to watching this man and his ideas grow.
he makes good videos but one of the greatest thinkers of our time? Lets be real here.
@@xsuploader Keyword "on his way".
This people are dangerous. One day they will call to kill millions of people in the name of VEGANISM...
(which is an UNNATURAL diet, but PHYSIOLOGY is something you can't understand)
@@sebassanchezc-1379 That's a borderline moronic comment. And no need to clarify, I know you're speaking about abortion.
@the Lost Q not at all. He has said several things I didn't agree with. After listening to his reasoning behind those, I have no good arguments against them.
I'm gonna try. Because you're right.
Nih Joo wonderful! have you heard of www.challenge22.com ? you can get a free mentor for advice and recepies, and talk to a registered dietician for free! check it out. theres also the Happy Cow App you can download on your phone, to help you find yummy vegan meals at restaurants close to you. so many resources out there. ❤🌎🐾
Reach out if you find yourself struggling and need any help!
@@mayganphynix8267 thanks, I'll try that
Remember to take your B12 supplement :-)
@@communistrussia so I've been vegan for a month now
I kinda hate chia seeds though, and I need omega 3s
I'll need 3 oz of walnuts per day for enough omega 3 and that is a lot, so I'm kinda struggling...😅
it was this exact speech that finally made me go vegan. Alex, you have no idea how much I appreciate what your are doing. I still can't believe that I used to be this insensitive towards animals, myself, and the planet for 18 years of my life. Thank you so much for your hard work and I hope that you continue what your are doing for as long as you can.
He is no longer vegan though..
🤣
@@HelenEk7 lol 😂😆
This exact speech made me go vegan too when I was 18 almost 19. I have been vegan now for three years!
I knew this video would expose me and slap me in the face for my callousness towards the subject.
I watched it anyway, and am glad for it.
Sreejita Patra you're awesome.🙏 I have resources that may help you (free), if you are interested! ❤🌎🐾
Proud of you gurl!!!💗
Did you become vegan?
Let’s do all we can to get Alex on the Joe Rogan podcast.
He needs exposure.
What? No. Joe Rogan is awful.
Joe broomi is a fighter and lover and smoocher but he is not vegan you fool. Oh my god what is this
Joe Rogan doesn't support the meat industry though he hunts his own food solely. It would be an interesting debate between them you have to admit!
I'm never going to quit eating meat but I'm also never going to quit listening to people I disagree with. Rogan's podcast would certainly give Alex a lot more exposure.
@@davidmustaine997 so what? Hes had vegans on before.
Alex, I know you get a lot of “I'm unsubscribing” comments for speaking out about Veganism; if it means anything, I already loved your channel before and love it a hell of a lot more now because of your advocacy of veganism.
You're doing great work, thank you.
well put!
Same
ditto!
I wonder what these unsubscribers are thinking. Apparently Alex is not allowed to have his own opinions about certain topics. They want him to be a clone of themselves.
I am not a vegan, but Alex makes me think about very interesting topics. He is well spoken, civilized, cultured. I would never unsubscribe. He does not have to be me, and I do not have to be him..
Me too
well i’m going vegan now
@@mello.b3373 what do you think he'd dead now lol
Did you go vegan?
@@silentstarlight3322 I think that meat is convenient for human pleasure and survival, even if there are supplements and vegan alternatives. It is simply my will to eat and survive with pleasure. This is why the whole world eats meat. Pleasure and convenience are good reasons.
@@silentstarlight3322 You need meat to live. We could cut out a lot of meat but not everything.
@@silentstarlight3322 yeah and we eat plants so why don't we suck the ground for water, suck some co2 from the air for oxygen? Plants get made from that so why don't we?
I want to make an appeal to everyone reading these comments. Whether or not you agree with his conclusions, understand this: Alex truly believes that this is the greatest moral emergency that we currently face. I don't think anyone is doubtful of his convictions. What greater proof do we have of his moral virtue and integrity than for him to actively choose to speak on a polarizing issue knowing that he will lose followers for the sole purpose that it will make the world a better place. Does this not show that his desire to do what he believes to be moral overrides his desire to be admired and applauded?
He could have just as easily spoken on topics that everyone will happily agree on such as metaethics and religion to an audience of atheists, but please cherish the fact that he didn't. Can you not see how similar this situation is to the atheists of the past when faced with the religious public?
I don't agree with him but I understand that he's convinced that killing animals for meat is bad
@@falcongamer58 Thank you for sharing. I don't think we can choose to be convinced or not, we can only hear the arguments and we are either convinced or unconvinced. Discussions are always helpful though, and so I'd be interested to hear more of your opinion on this topic, of course if you wish to discuss :)
@Pieter Jan Zijlstra you watch too many Disney cartoons dude. Go out to the jungle and explain your morality to a wild tiger
@Pieter Jan Zijlstra i don't buy my products from industrial farms
@Pieter Jan Zijlstra also it's not because it's "non-egotistical"
That sounded more like guilt-shaming.
Herbivores eventually get eaten, carnivores eventually succumb to micro beings, micro beings eventually get consumed by vegetation, vegetation eventually gets eaten by herbivores
That's just the natural order, it's okay if you don't wanna participate in it but it's not okay to force someone out of it
Watching this while eating a vegan Pizza for the first time. It tastes really good.
I think veganism has a bright future.
John Cena Thank you Mr Cena, very cool
Junk food is junk food
I'm glad you enjoyed your pizza John. That's awesome!
There are a lot of very good vegan swaps out there now it's amazing! Unnatural Vegan is a sensible vegan who produces well informed and researched videos. She also shows and tests vegan swaps. In vitro meat is also soon to be. Good luck on your journey!
Papa John Cena's Vegan Pizza
This has vastly changed my views and made me think hard and long about my diet.
Dis Dude awesome! if you want some help and inspiration, check out www.challenge22.com . you can have a mentor, tons of recipes and talk to a registered dietician, all for free! its a wonderful opportunity. have fun with it and enjoy the journey!
❤🌎🐾
Watch earthlings or read animal liberation by Peter Singer if you want to understand the philosophy in depth
I went vegan in 2018 and it was so much easier than I expected! So many vegan options today 😊 not only do I eat healthier but I really enjoy eating so much more than I used to which was a surprise! My taste buds really changed
Dis Dude ... Hard and long??? Are you a psychopath? It’s “long and hard” absolute liberty
Phil Kesler ... Oh well Phil my dear chap, you see it’s a matter of culture! A matter of tradition! You wouldn’t say “chips and fish” or “Dec and Ant” would you? Now you know full well I’m right dear chap so don’t even try to disagree!
Alex, where are you? The one speaking here is much wiser and smarter than the one who is speaking today.....
My thougts. I hope he will get out of his mental problems and be vegan again
@@vaelinlaornas I think his mental problems were caused by the fact that he realized he was a selfish pos and didn't have any moral backbone and will find any excuse possible to go back to stuffing his face with tortured flesh of baby chicks again and how would he deal with the backlash 🤔
Conversely, it seems the Alex of this video the immature one to so vehemently, emphatically proclaim and promote an idealogy that he himself had followed for not more than a few months. Championing a cause without testing his own mettle indicates an unseasoned mind.
Aight, guess I'll have to go vegan
If you need any help, feel free to ask any vegan. We will always be here to help.
A great place to start is by going to Challenge22.com, there you can subscribe for free and get recipes, advices, and a mentor that will help you for 22 days.
Plenty of youtube channels to get knowledge from :
Brian Turner, Hench Herbivore (Bodybuilding and recipes ideas)
Mic The Vegan (Science stuff regarding a vegan diet)
Gojiman (Gut health & nutrition facts)
I can provide more information if asked to.
Good luck on your vegan journey !
Yeah
❤️
hell yes
my man.
Very good presentation. I've been vegetarian for about 6 months now, and after watching this I may consider exploring a fully vegan diet. Keep up the good work.
Good for you, I hope you try veganism. Best choice I ever made.
Best choice I've ever made as well. There are lots of resources online, you should try making the switch!
Good luck on your vegan journey !
Apparently if you go on Challenge22.com you can have a mentor for free and advices for 22 days, might be of help.
Also, check youtubes channels like Hench Herbivore & Brian turner & The easy vegan (for recipes ideas), Mic the Vegan (if you're interested in the science regarding veganism),... There are a ton of other channels ^^'.
Oh, and recently Earthling Ed (Extremly great yt channel) released hidden footage of what happens in the Dairy Industry in the UK : th-cam.com/video/x9sSDTbJ8WI/w-d-xo.html
You might want to take a look. And why not at the documentary Dominion too : www.dominionmovement.com/watch
Good luck! I made the transition from vegetarian to vegan about 8 months ago and it was the best decision I ever made.
NathanielRoarkProductions you should and I wish you good luck if you do so 😊
As Alex said, in the egg industry male chicks are macerated alive for being male. So half of them are killed and the other half is exploited to produce more eggs. And in the dairy industry the same happens with male calfs. They are killed and the female ones grow up drinking something that’s not milk, just a liquid mixture of cereals, so the dairy farmer has more cow’s milk to sell to humans. If that’s not absurd enough for you I tell you that cows are forcibly impregnated and their (female) calfs are taken away from day after 24 hours (males are just killed straight away). But cows are very maternal beings, and both mum and baby suffer with the separation.
There’s a lot of deaths and suffering in the egg and dairy industry.
Again, good luck!
Probably the most eloquent animal rights speech I've ever heard. Wow. So glad Alex is on the right side of justice.
Right. I've come back to watch it a few times, he absolutely nails it. I love that reason and logic led him to veganism. He explored the rational philosophy of veganism, saw that he was behaving immorally, and adjusted his lifestyle. It's a shame most people find that so difficult to do.
After watching this 4 times in 2 days, I can only conclude that this is the best video on TH-cam.
21:05
*Nearly brought me to tears with this compassionate conviction* ..........thank you Alex for being so courageous and having the integrity to stand up for what will be seen by most people as a moral obligation within a generation.
I didn't get to that part yet....yet
Indeed! Brilliant speech.
@@veganfortheanimals6994 It's probably my favorite part of this incredible speech
Heart and Logic Destroys Carnist Nonsense Every Time
@@Wearephuct-O I have hope that most carnists are also pre-vegans ..........just like nearly every vegan I know of ever......we all once were carnist.
Here in Brazil, veganism is gaining more power, too. I'm doing my part, talking about animal ethics, reading and writing about, and posting videos here at TH-cam.
Thank you so much
@@Trylica I just want to do watch I believe is right.
@@AlyssonAugusto There is nothing wrong with eating animals. Alot of species eat animals and so do we. The only problem with the modern age in my opinion is factory farming. If the animals are living freely and someone hunts them down for food there is nothing ethical wrong about it. Sure it is not nice to see, but nature isn't always nice or do you think the Lion is a cruel animal for killing other animals for food. Nature has always worked that way and always will, the only thing we can do better is abandoning factory farming and not buying their products. I personally just buy food from my region and where i know how the animals are being treated. I don't eat very much meat, but i don't want to live entirely without it.
Aqui na minha cidade (interior de SP) está crescendo bastante.
@@Yumuichi just search about hume's guillotine or naturalistic fallacy. The is-ought problem can't be resolved only because you believe that's not wrong in doing what seems natural. Murder, rape and other things like that are really natural at nature. If you defend this... Well, I rest my case.
It truely blows me away how you, Alex, shifted my perspective on veganism in that short amount of time. I think its weired how i never really spent a deep thought to that topic because of the...lets say...non existend thrillingnes of it (at least this is how i percieved it before). As soon as you started framing it as a moral problem and a philosophical question you really got me hooked. As a person whom would call himself a rational thinker this really bugs me. Thank you for shifting my perspective i really am thinking about what you just said. You are a brave man for standing up for veganism as it often is portraied as a practice groundet in ideology (at least i see others thinking that on social media). I want you to know that your words are powerful and your honesty and rationalisation makes me look up to you as an individual. If you ever read this, Alex, thank you so much for shaping me and many others into a free thinking human being.
Best regards,
Chris
This is one of the most convincing speeches I have heard on veganism ever. I have been vegan for six years now, but you have just reignited my spark to get involved in activism. You articulated everything perfectly and have a talent that has the potential to make the world a better place. Keep producing this amazing content, you have a new subscriber :)
@@mello.b3373 Nothing has been debunked. Wanna try again?
@@mello.b3373 wait, where? I would kind of like to hear that because frankly I like meat lol. I thought this speech was very convincing though
6 year vegan from Canada. Can’t wait till post Covid so I can get back to activism. ❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️
@@benc.3128im a meat eater and I can tell you, this dude is just crazy, also obsessed. I read almost all his comments... He didn't make a single point worth considering.
@lioness14 That's fine just don't make it the basis of an argument, it's not rational.
I have to go do some moral contemplation now. Amazing speech.
Yeah Got dam
This link may be useful it shows the process farm to plate WatchDominion.com
I have a question, what if a person was born without the ability to feel pain, to understand danger and had the intellect of a chicken. Weird yes but would it be wrong to kill them? Why does killing something that can’t feel or understand pain. Why is it not wrong to eat plants. In my opinion vegans are a little arrogant because they think that their mortal reasoning is somehow a wiser course than that of nature, that we ought to follow our reasoning alone instead of following the course of nature.
@@themadhouse8583 The analogy you gave doesn't really correlate to a plant. It's not that a plant can't feel or understand pain. Plants cant feel or understand anything, they have zero consciousness, they experience nothing, they are like rocks or bacteria.
But you yourself do not live in accordance with nature. Your using the internet right now. Do you live indoors? Use medicine? Perhaps you're short sighted and wear glasses, would that be wrong because it's not in accordance with nature?
And by the way Veganism is far better for the environment so if you care about the natural world if that's another point in favour of Veganism.
Harvard Law review: “Climate change. Ocean dead zones. Fisheries depletion. Species extinction. Deforestation. World hunger. Food safety. Heart disease. Obesity. Diabetes. The list goes on. There is one issue at the heart of all these global problems that is too often overlooked by private individuals and policy makers alike-our demand for and reliance on animal products.” harvardelr.com/2015/10/26/elrs-a-leading-cause-of-everything-one-industry-that-is-destroying-our-planet-and-our-ability-to-thrive-on-it/
Q , far better than ...eating FK CORPSES (that require land and crops ...resources ) .
W T F !? Watch the damn video again ( asuming you watched it ) .
Animals and activists greatly benefit from your intellect and speaking ability! Thanks, Alex!
I’m just so proud!!! We need vegan activists like him
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
What happened Alex?
"Who knows how many rotations of the blade it takes to finally kill them. I hope it's not too many"
Damn, this one hit me hard...
João Farias thank you for caring. ❤ are you considering going Vegan? if so, I have many free resources that can help. 😊❤🌎🌊🐟🐾
@@mayganphynix8267 thank you for following up! I've seen your other comments on here offering up resources and thought it was grand 😊😁
I've been for almost 4 yrs now, only wish I'd done it sooner ❤
João Farias oh wonderful! what made you decide to go vegan? 😃
@@mayganphynix8267 definitely for the animals. Have since learned more about the other good reasons for it, but nothing rises to their level 🐒🐕🐩🐈🐅🐆🐎🐂🐃🐄🐖🐗🐏🐑🐐🐘🐰🦃🐔🐓🐣🐤🐥🐦🐟🐠🐙🐚
João Farias oh yes. agreed. I first got interested in it (I first went Pescetarian), because of an animal rights flyer at a music festival that had lots of info. ☺
I completely understand that it is a risk to post veganism related topics on a channel as discussion often gets heated and people are often very polarised on the topic. This is why we must support people speaking out against injustice. Massive support for you Alex, you've given me lots of talking points and have further substantiated my belief that veganism is the future for our world.
yes, massive respect !
I don't agree with it but I respect the choice. Unless we can reduce what we consume into a "pill" that doesn't harm anything, even plants, then I would consider it. My hope is (the human race) to be a starfaring species and I understand that it will be convenient to have our consumption to be condensed into a "pill" form that is not made of organic matter... I'm getting way off topic. I get it, the way we consume now is "too" impersonal.
@@airiksg817 airiksg817 This is not an argument. Your relationship to animals doesn't depend on the invention of a wonder pill
"Extraordinary harm and mistreatment requires extraordinary justification."
@@airiksg817 I'm not sure if you're aware, but plants can't feel pain, they can react to stimuli but certainly aren't sentient. Animals evolved to feel pain in order to escape negative stimuli, it would make zero evolutionary sense for plants to develop this trait as they cannot escape.
I have a legitimate concern. I am a disabled teen who requires meet intake everyday. What do I do?
This is among the greatest speeches on animal rights of all time. You are brilliant my friend, and we will win this fight for liberation. Together we rise.
Agree. Did you ever see the speeches of Gary Yourofsky ? They were savagely good
@Benjamin T I miss him.
I saw Gary Yourofsky's speech on youtube about 2,5 years ago and it made me go vegan. He's my hero.
Corniest shit I’ve read all day
Lol calm down Nathan it’s not that good
As a long time vegan who has felt lonely frustrated and hopeless more times than one can count, I wanted to thank you. It was so reassuring to hear that someone else's life mission is to end this animal holocaust. I know its not of much relevance to the video but I just felt like hugging you really really hard when you mentioned that. You are literally one of the people I look up to the most and I'm grateful to the universe that you're using your voice on behalf of animals. I saw your pain and frustration too. Know that you're not alone in this fight against animal exploitation and know that your voice is incredibly powerful and having an incredibly positive impact.
I am so glad to see this type of comment. As a vegan I know how gut wrenching is to try to express my point of view and explain the benefits of going vegan and being mocked because of it. It’s a constant feeling of powerlessness, of frustration. I feel better knowing that I am not alone, that there are other amazing people on this boat too. It may sound cliche but, together we are stronger❤️
It’s getting easier and easier isn’t it?
just shut up!!!
Animal holocaust. 😂🤣🤣 I'm sorry but... No.
Finally a speech which can introduce people to veganism without the need to use any logical fallacies. Thank you for all you are doing for the animals. If you don't mind I'd like to add Spanish captions to this video.
@@mello.b3373 link to the debunking?
@@mello.b3373 Are you trolling? Under several comments you commented that he's wrong and when someone ask you for the debunking you write 3x the link to this very video. Considering I have already verified the information in this video, it also seems unlikely to have an actual debunking but I would still interested what the point of the other side are.
I am SO unbelievably proud of you. You’re the most logical person i know.
@@sebassanchezc-1379 actually, new evidence presented shows that early humans (our kind of humans, the early homo sapiens) as well as the gladiators were predominantly vegan. Look it up
@@alyssajager3745 no. There is no such evidence of "early humans". Just bunch of monkeys. The evidence says the more meat those MONKEYS eat the bigger the brains are. The full potential of our genetics is reached when the more meat we eat.
It never was a vegan culture in human history. Not because of ideology but because it's is physiologically impossible. There are essential nutrients that are only available in animal products you brainwashed
There is no other way to synthesize those molecules 🤣🤣🤣🤣 there are not in vegetable of any kind.
By the way Game changers is pure BS.
@@alyssajager3745 since when people believe everything Hollywood says?
Really? Do you know something about PHYSIOLOGY or biochemistry? Look for ex-vegan sharing their experiences and vegan deterioration on TH-cam. There you have the full picture
@@sebassanchezc-1379 there is actually. This is the doi number of the study that was conducted: doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0110489. Exactly what molecules do you think you cannot get from plants?
@@sebassanchezc-1379 also, if being vegan is physiologically impossible how am I alive and how is Alex
Young man has a bright future ahead of him.
He can talk, will probably blame his inmaturity if he gets questions about this in the future. th-cam.com/video/Dq4Apc2Xk7Q/w-d-xo.html
"I will never allow my culinary convenience to balance upon corpses of our own moral community" - maybe 2024 Alex should watch this video
did you watch his video?
😂😂😂😂😂
You speak so powerfully for animals, that every time I hear you talk, I get very emotional. I think you're becoming my favorite speaker.
Too much soy will definitely make you emotional lol
@@djsega4289 Is that supposed to be an insult? Because I don't take it as an insult. :D
@@Uniruusu I'm not trying to insult you, but I seriously have noticed a trend of vegans being a bit hyper emotional. Don't know if they were like that and then become vegan, or if are like that cause of being vegan.
@@djsega4289 You're right, some vegans are a bit hyper emotional. I don't see it exclusively as a vegan thing though. I've seen it in almost any group, regardless their gender, race, sexual preference or ideology.
I wish I could like this a million times!!! This is the sort of passion that comes from getting the true information on what actually happens before the innocent beings end up on our plates. It is gut wrenching, incredibly cruel and really hard to justify.
Well done for speaking up Alex. Even without the environmental and health benefits that come with going vegan, it is a no brainer from an ethical, compassionate point of view
Cheers to everyone watching this, even though it might be uncomfortable because you aren't vegan (yet). We can do this.
honestly love your comment. this community is the best
Indeed!
I love this channel, the man behind it, and his well thought out arguments. I know I am going to get alot of hate and negative comments from the vegan community that I am a monster and/or a murderer, for what I am going to say. Here goes: I am not vegan. Nor will I ever be. Simply because Animals are not Humans. That's it. I am pro-life because those babies are Humans. That's why. And I will not unsubscribe from CosmicSkeptic because he's taking this stance. Because I believe in listening to people you disagree with and that it's wrong to stay in your own echo chamber. Because ignorance is dangerous. I am Christian and I started watching this channel to get another perspective. I haven't unsubscribed because he's Atheist, and I won't because he's taking this stance on Veganism. I respect his arguments and his reasoning. I think that people need to be okay with disagreeing. I love this channel's community and I hope this won't turn into a hateful space for people such as myself because I don't think the same as you do. That's what I wanted to say. I will continue watching this channel and hearing him out.
@@chasingclouds9176 Just curious, how much of this video did you watch? Simply wondering because he talks about comparing animals to humans within the first 10 minutes of the talk as far as I remember. Regardless, good on you for being open to listen to opposing points of view.*
@@valeriavagapova I watched all of the video. Thank you! I'm honestly expecting alot of hate to be directed at me.
Thanks to you, I finally became a vegan. Whoever said shaming doesn't work clearly has never seen this video.
Shaming doesn't work and he is not shaming, especially in the beginning of his speech he makes that pretty clear
@@davidzuilhof2272 😒
@@enigmatic9118 David is right, haha. What did you meant by shaming? Though I am glad you are now vegan n-n
@@jean_etcetera David is not right. It's definitely shaming... And shaming does work for some people. I was shamed out of religious thinking.
@@enigmatic9118 welcome. And if and when you mess up, just keep on. It is what is right. Bless you. ❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️
Thank you for being voice for the voiceless !
im so glad to see your ethical consistency throughout my time watching you and your ability to change your mind based on new evidence presented. so many will try their best to be eithically consistent in every way they can except on veganism and actively making invalid excuses to not have to change
"There is no objective morality"
"Only veganism is moral"
@@LeatherDaddy97 first thing that came to my mind too. It's odd to see this doublethink among atheist vegans
@@uja11 He's not arguing for objective morality. He's arguing that whatever moral system you use should be consistent.
@@wouldhaves and mine is
@@tuomas2639 yeah but you also arent producing cats for food and last i checked a life eating grass then a piston to the head isnt torture. Farm animals need us as much as we need them. I dont support torture i support treating the animal well then eating it. No worthwhile farmer fucks with his product.
This is the absolute best Vegan speech on the internet!
Everyone on the planet should watch this!
Love you Alex!
It's hard to deny your comment......well put
Okay, I'll give it a shot. I'm gonna try to go vegetarian for a month. If I can keep it up, I'll try veganism. Wish me luck guys ✌️
Good luck!! A month should be just about enough to get through the hardest phase. It can be a challenge overthrowing your old habits. But once you have the basics down, it becomes completely intuitive over time. I found that what worked for me in the beginning was being strict with myself (so I wouldn't become complacent again, just to kind of reinforce the recognition that my actions had consequences) and just pushing through until I had down the recipes, the places to eat out, the tips and tricks... Hands down the best decision of my life though. I hope it will be the same for you!
How did it go?
How did it go
@Tyler do you only eat at restaurants? going vegan is as easy as buying beans and rice, and i can assure you, you can buy rice and beans EVERYWHERE.
@@anakinnetzellceron4891 it's hard to find vegan alternatives where i live too and sure, you can find rice and beans pretty much everywhere but are you expecting people to eat only rice and beans all the time? they're going to be sick of that eventually and aside from that, what about the nutrition values?
I stumbled upon "Animal Liberation" by accident when I was about 13 or fourteen. I feel so fortunate that I found it. That book led me down the rabbit hole of documentaries like "Earthlings" something that has been burned into my mind. Thank you for your hard work. Glad to be someone on the right side of history✊
That movie made me go vegan mid day. Literally like 1pm Sep 2nd 2017 lol. It was that serious of a shift for me. I've cried over not having cheese, but that movie made sure I didn't break. ❤🌱
@@tinker651 Soem vegan cheeses are pretty fantastic these days - i actually eat more cheese now since going vegan than i used to when i was a carnist :p And they are getting better all the time too! Thanks for not breaking!
@@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 100% agree, as I sit here with my vegan grilled cheese 😂😊 it's delicious!❤🌱
I was honord to attend the speech, it was hypnotyzing and convincing.
At first I thought the crowd would get mad for being forced to listen to for a vegan speech, BUT ultimately they appereciate his straightforward and courage to give that kind of speech.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@kenhiett5266 Facts shows that a vegan diet is healthy in all stages of life, from born to elderly, this states the American nutrition organiztion, not a vegan organization.
Secondly, philosophers debated this issue, and the majority conculuded that not exploiting animals when you don't need it to survive, is superior morally.
And to conclude that someone is ashamed of is existence is an ndicattion of the speaker
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Vegans can be ashamed of what man kind causing to other animals, it doesn't decrease their own self-worth.
@@sery152 If you believe veganism is superior morally than you don't understand morality, it's origins, or its implementation. That's an argument I would be happy to have with you but you won't like the outcome, I assure you.
In regards to your argument concerning health; almost any diet is preferable to the standard American diet among the masses. However, meat is not only healthy when eaten in moderation, it is literally responsible for that large brain you are using to wage this argument. That large brain of yours evolved specifically because your ancestors had access to meat.
@@sery152 I don't have much more time at the moment, but we can address this question of morality tomorrow. Morality is where this conversation gets much more interesting and complex.
@@kenhiett5266 give me your strongest argument and if I'll show you that you can't be certain about it you'll consider all your other arguments as well.
It's so cool thar you made that "non-vegan argues for veganism"-videon a few months ago and now you're doing this!
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
@@kenhiett5266 you are so butthurt that you are copy pasting that crap under every comment hahahahhaah
Both were the best speeches for veganism that I've ever heard. He's so remarkably well-spoken it's truly incredible
Alex, I haven't enough words to explain how brilliant you are. You calmly, intelligently, thought provokingly and unapologetically lay out an argument so strong that you will have even the most avid bacon enthusiast (myself included) standing corrected by your message. Have linked the video to my friends, and do hope that they, too, see reason.
Thank you so much
@@CosmicSkeptic Please debate Jordan Peterson on Veganism! You're doing great work!
@@CosmicSkeptic I would just like to concur with Life Of Tennis and echo his assertions as well. I will certainly be sharing this video as best I can to as many as possible, but I would LOVE to see you debate Jordan Peterson about veganism.
I know he appreciates data also, so once he decides to be ingenuous, I'm certain he'll get off of his anecdotal evidence carnivore diet branding.
For what it's worth, I also suspect that he did indeed experience symptom relief from his carnivore diet, but this does not indicate better health outcomes.
For all intents and purposes, he was likely worsening his health outcomes whilst simultaneously mitigating his symptoms. However, I am not qualified enough to feel like I can make any claims there.
I know you're already aquainted with Isaac (Ask Yourself), so I suspect you are aware of Dr. Avi, who is the vegan doctor I recommend for all health questions with respect to veganism vs. consuming animal products.
Anyways, thanks again for this truly exceptional work.
This is the best speech in defense of veganism that I've ever heard, bar none.
Blessings to you always brother 🙏💯🌱🌎♾️
A lot of Hyperbole
over exaggeration
Appeal to guilt
Appeal to fear
No logical reason why
@@Eesalitepill99 None of it was exaggerated, everything he described about the meat industry were just facts. You could say those other things about any moral issue you didn't like -- if you thought it was acceptable to murder people and I gave you a passionate speech about the rights of human beings, you could say this was an 'appeal to guilt' or fear. What logical reason are you hoping for? An equation? We're not robots, all morality is fundamentally emotional. Alex didn't even attempt to give you a meta-ethical framework to decide what is right and wrong, he just explained why consuming animal products is inconsistent with most people's framework that they appear to apply in all other settings.
I'm actually seriously considering becoming vegan after this. I have no issue with literally anything he said and I agree with literally he's said so far but still for reasons I can not communicate coherently, something is holding me back from actually taking that step.
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I'm glad to say I've made the switch. its been about a month and a half since I've completely stopped eating meat but it's still early days, so I wouldn't consider myself 100% vegan yet, as I still eat eggs, fish, and other dairy products. I'm still adjusting to all this as time goes by but hopefully, I can take the next steps to become a full vegan.
Then you are one of the smart ones. Look at these other comments. Holy shit man.
@OfficialrRlMusic Then try to take small steps maybe. For instance, say to yourself "today I'm not eating animal products" instead of thinking "I can never eat/use animal products again" and see how that goes and how it makes you feel and go from there. Make it a challenge.
Try to watch (more) animal cruelty/pro vegan videos. Watch street activism videos and see how silly people sound trying to defend eating animals; th-cam.com/video/eO5ABZPeg0k/w-d-xo.html There's so many videos by him and others like Earthling Ed, Joey Carbstrong, Amazing Vegan Outreach, Benny the Vegan, That Vegan Couple, Humane Hancock e.a.
Happy you're considering going vegan, hope you'll give it a good go :) ❤
The thing holding you back is culture & conformity. People hearing arguments against slavery would have felt the same thing as you do now.
@@isaachudson9108 wow I've actually never thought of it like that but how do you make the first steps to change?
@@Thepostmoderncynic I also find it helpful to constantly remind myself why I'm doing it. Watch Dominion (documentary), more videos like these, follows vegans on Twitter.
i became vegan a month ago, like to let everyone know i had 0 strength loss, improved grip strength and better circulation
Tate Barnum yay! ❤
I've been vegan almost ten years and still have cold feet and hands. It's a medical condition. This is why we can't always use health as a reason to do it. If i became plant-based thinking my hands and feet would stop being cold, and then it didnt work, I might switch back to being omnivore. Being vegan is about more than just a diet or fad. I'm glad you've seen improvement but the animals are the reason for being vegan.
ASMRyouVEGANyet? Well my circulation is def better
Frankly i agree w/ Alex though i get to his/my preference via a different route......I actually think he could just as easily successfully debated the antithesis if thats the conclusion he wanted to have. Let's face it, most adopt veganism b/c the net loss (if any) doesn't outweigh the net benefit. The benefits are many and people adopt it for different reasons...it could be anything or any combination of things from personal taste preferences, to moral obligation/personal ethics code.... (it subjectively feels right and therefore i will gain more pleasure from feeling im doing right,ie personal pleasure), moral superiority (ie personal pleasure via self discipline/choices that others dont make), individual health benefits (ie self-preservation/extension of self awareness).......there can certainly also be other beneficial factors that intermingle such as politics reasons (that encapsulates a lot), social (this depends if your conforming to your peer group or rebelling and each has a personal gain depending on the type person you are).
As I stated in the first sentence.....the net loss to an individual vs the net cost is negligible, if anything i think Alex could/would/did make the case that there is a net benefit.......thats actually the selling point...its not actually a sacrifice...its not like people have to skip 4 meals in a row every time they eat to achieve this. I also dont think he would find this a rational argument pre-agriculture times or in some future fucked up scenario in which its either eat meat or self dies or suffers.............which therefore makes the argument not only subjective but also circumstantial/era relevant
Tate Barnum I’m vegan too and I have terribly cold hands and feet! I don’t think it has anything to do with diet!
Well spoken and explained. Vegan nearly 3 years just wish i'd aligned my actions with my ethics on these matters far sooner.
It’s better for you own health that you didn’t lol
@@djsega4289 lol agreed
This is it, this is the video that made me vegan. Thank you Alex.
Much respect
@@CosmicSkeptic If you're confident in the logic of veganism, why don't you debate a meat eater that's prepared to hold your argument accountable?
@@kenhiett5266 because there is no such thing as an ethical and at the same time morally consistant meat eater
@@tenzinsorbi8103 Except vegans are attempting to use morality in an unprecedented/distorted manner. If you study the origins, history, and implementation of morality it doesn't apply to the consumption of meat. Morality came about in a variety of ways, (social and evolutionary) but there is no doubt why it came about. As homo sapiens started forming groups, cooperating, and communicating in much higher resolution than animals, (i.e. becoming human) morality became a necessity. This is why morals have always pertained to implications between humans and for humans. Consuming meat has no such implications. My fellow humans can live without fear of me whether I consume meat products or not.
Attempting to make the consumption of meat a moral issue has always been an intellectual sleight of hand. An effective sleight of hand that takes advantage of human emotion, but an intellectual sleight of hand nonetheless.
@@kenhiett5266 but humans have morality against animals. Do i even need to explain or give an example
I didn't know you're vegan! I've been for 11 years now and the best thing I ever did
Same feeling here.......healthy vegan here for more than 27 years
Very nice to hear from long term vegans. I've only been vegan for nearly a year. And non vegans always say it will negatively affect my health in the long term.
Kirana if you don't already I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
Jordan D thanks for your advice. I sometimes use chronometer
Kirana Aisyah doesn’t think for a moment that “Jordan D” is typing his comment for you; he has copy-pasted that same shill for dodgy supplements all over the comments on this vid. Don’t misunderstand me, he makes a very valid point that B12, D2, D3, and iodine are not naturally found in plant products, and they are all important for good health, but you don’t need to use his special “veg1” supplement; all are routinely added to preprocessed foods like breads and breakfast cereals, and there are many OTC multivitamin supplements that contain not just B12 and D but riboflavin, folic acid, C, iron, manganese, etc etc. Talk to your doctor or other health professional before you follow the advice of random comments on TH-cam 😉
you’ve been one of my favourite channels for 2 years now, i’m very happy to see people i look up to making the kinder choice and promoting veganism :-)
@Mysterium Lugosi Would you elaborate\clarify your position more? I'm unsure if you simply want more notice given to the effects of farming (both plant and animal), or you are trying to make another point which is escaping me.
@Mysterium Lugosi Yes. I take it from your reply you were referring to something Alex said. I've had a drink, so I'm likely overlooking something obvious. I'll re-watch later and see if it makes more sense then. Thanks for the reply.
@Mysterium Lugosi I just realised that you were actually referring to link (which is what you said) in your post. Sorry for wasting your time.
@Mysterium Lugosi You can't completely abolish human caused suffering to animals, but you can surely reduce it. Think about a doctor who surely can't save everybody, decides to save none because of this reason, wouldn't make a lot of sense, would it? And fun fact: If the entire world would switch to eating only plants, hypothetical speaking, farmland the size of Africa could be reduced, meaning less destruction of land, use of pesticides and so on. This is minus 76% of all farmland, which could be reforested to improve biodiversity. Not even speaking of the destruction of the sea that is currently taking place. science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/987
Nobody should promote a life style. Your life your choice.
It was a great lecture
I have to say that you were right, you really managed to upset some people in the audience.
Thank you so much for coming.
It was nice to meet you and have dinner with you, Drew and Thomas.
I hope you will visit Israel again soon
What were they mostly upset about ?
Varhuna About their conscience telling them to stop paying for animal suffering and exploitation.
This turned my vegan, and I'm so glad I did it.
@@mello.b3373 Great. Pain, death, torture and suffering is part of a world I don't wish to live in. Thank you for this confirmation of the pointless struggle of humanity against inhuman amoral nature of the universe; guess I'll go kill myself since there's no meaning or morality to existence. Death is just biology, after all. Your view on humanity as being powerless to define our morality against suffering is nihilistic - but so am I, so I agree. There's no point to anything, congrats.
I will see you in the next life. Lmao.
Bless you. And if and when you mess up, just pick up and continue on. I’ve been Vega almost 6 years now. Best decision of my life. ❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️
@@mello.b3373 you’re a weak and selfish person. Sorry.
@@mello.b3373 i do not agree with you, but i belive that living things who are less merited then the general human population don't deserve life.
thats why i think disabled people should be aborted while unborn, people who are 70 or lower iq need to work in labor, and not vote, thats why i think down syndromed people should be euthanized, and i agree that eating meat isn't bad.
i am a geniuene meat eater. if you don't belive the things i belive and still eat meat, i don't respect you, because you're a hypocrite.
I already was vegan, when I saw this speech, but if I wasn't it would have totally turned me vegan.
For anyone saying you have to eat meat to survive you don't. I'm 25 and my sister and I, have never eaten any meat and my parents have been vegi for 25 years both and vegan for 5 years. My wife has been vegi for 6 years and vegan for 6. All of us have great health and I've only been to the doctor's 4 times in my life, last time being last month for a blood test.
Chase Alder good for you, not everyone has the same body. Some people have allergies of other disorders that make removing meat from the diet deadly and impossible.
@@maxgoldsmith9 I know but that will only be 0.001 % of the population. Many more people are lactose intolerant and there are plenty of people who are allergic to meat. But everyone else without allergies can eat vegan all the time with no issues. Even those with allergies would have a work around no one can eat just meat and nothing else.
As you can see from reading what I've written at no point have I told you what to do. I've only stated what can be done. I'm just saying for those people who do care about animals, the planet and their fellow humans that this is the best option.
I'm 30 and I've only been to the doctor once. I eat meat and vegetables. My ancestors ate mainly meat to survive as vegetables don't grow here in the winter and climate is too cold. Sheeps find food in the mountains, you can't grow any crops there or anything else. And also the sea provides us with fish. Therefore meat is the best source for nutrition and most natural way to get food.
@@chasealder343 Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a common disorder that affects the large intestine. Just as lactose intolerant there are many people that are intolerant to vegetables... You are spreading false information, it's very rare that someone is allergic to meat. Most of those who are allergic to meat have been bitten by a certain type of tick.
Quite literally this is one of the very best speeches I have ever heard on veganism and it's really brave and inspiring you said all of that THERE to a bunch of non-vegans and posted the video on your channel. I feel inspired now to be more active even though I am already a vegan activist :) Also you going vegan and being so passionate about it was a shock to me since I initially subscribed for your channel for the atheism content but KEEP GOING man
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
Bunch of non vegans...you mean 99.99999999 of humans
@@sebassanchezc-1379 OMG I just realized everyone doing something that's wrong makes it right!! Slavery was completely moral 400 years ago!!
@@nottodaytay5858 PHYSIOLOGY don't care about feelings.
@@nottodaytay5858 I would stick to straw manning and avoid getting into an actual conversation about this topic. Right now you feel all warm and virtuous, but it's a thin veil of ignorance indeed.
Alex is the Hitchens of veganism. Extraordinarily outrageous and provoking, yet eloquent and rational in his speech. Truely wonderful to listen to.
Pretty accurate. On this topic he argues solely from emotion.
I was getting Hitch vibes too. Powerful speech.
The Hitchens of veganism... that sounds utterly ridiculous.
He isn't even a drop of piss from Hitchens.
You are certainly easily impressed.
Coming to this speech After Alex announced he's no longer vegan in his latest TH-cam post a few hours ago. I never thought I'd come back to this speech one day to say this. Disappointing!
Thank you so much for speaking on the animals behalf! I’ve been watching you for years and I freaked out when you posted your first veganism video. I love what you do Alex!
Beast mode! Animals don't ask for any less. Glad that you talk about animal rights in such a truthfull way!
Well put........it is that unapologetic stance Alex takes on the issue of animal rights that I too am so inspired by. Absolutely the right and morally responsible stance!
Plants don't ask either. Yet we kill them too. Yes, we do kill plants, they're alive being.
It's not moral at all to chose that a living being deserves less to live just because it's less intelligent.
At least omnivores can understand that and respect life they take.
Vegans don't respect the life they take.
@@xord1946 We don't give moral conideration to plants because they aren't sentient. And you kill more plants if you are not vegan because it takes in average 7 plant calories to produce 1 animal calorie.
If you base how worthy you consider a living being to live on its intelligence, then I agree. You vegans and us are doing essentially the same thing. You just chose a different specy than me to focus on.
Also, using biblical kind of arguments will not work against me. I say biblical because your arguments holds only for vegans, but I just stated that I understand we need to kill in order to survive, so that's fine by me if plants die in the process.
You do miss the important point that those plants would die anyway... whether we consume the animal or not.
@@xord1946 … Read my comment again, you didn't understand it….
I laughed when he said "I read Animal Liberation too late in my life", like bro you're like twelve.
(jk I think we're the same age)
He's around 21 if I'm not mistaken
He's just started his second year at Oxford University, so he's 19 or 20 most likely.
So 12 then ... Lol
never in my life did i think i would become vegan but now i guess i have to :)
sara m well done! If you need any help there’s lots of resources online. I’m on a vegan facebook group from the city I live, so if I have any questions people are always happy to help. Also follow Earthling Ed, he’s Alex’s friend and he’s so clever as well. 💚
I know right.
I'm just starting & here to be open-minded; I really respect your debating ability and have found your channel to be enlightening.
Hey I'd recommend getting in a source of b12, d and iodine - 3 important nutrients. The vegan society do a good supplement called veg1 with them all if you want an easy way of doing it. Also I'd check to see your getting in enough calories. This will help you stay on the diet.
Please check out the game changers th-cam.com/video/xSChFnszI_E/w-d-xo.html for more fact-bombs and DOMINION th-cam.com/video/LQRAfJyEsko/w-d-xo.html When you finally find out exactly what is going on, the actually impossibly difficult thing would be NOT to go vegan. Best of luck!!
You just sound like devoted christians the way you talk. Emotions should not be your primary weapon in order to convert people, but logic. Stop using fallacies to promote your life choice and assert yourself as a superior being for making that choice.
If I watch this I am gonna go vegan I know it... I am gonna watch it
Great!!
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Wow, I got chills when listening to this. Incredible speech, Alex.
Indubitably!
I have been vegan for almost a year. Animals don’t own anything but their life and we still take it from them.
Mello.B33 we are herbivores. Prove to me that we are not. It’s funny that humans think killing for food is nature but when it happens to us we all get our guns and kill a mountain lion for attacking us I stared of saying “oh well it’s part of life”. Humans want mimic one thing that lions do don’t want to do anything else.
@@mello.b3373 Our closest living relatives - chimpanzees, gorillas and bonobos - whose digestive system is virtually identical to ours, are mostly herbivorous. They also all have canines which are much bigger and stronger than ours. If we were really natural omnivores, we wouldn't need to use tools to kill the animals we eat, nor would we need to cook their meat and cut it up into little bits with a carving knife.
@@mello.b3373 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit
@@mello.b3373 In just hand-waving everything that's been said you make it all-too-obvious that you're just burying your head in the sand, and are even in denial about your own denialism.
If you want to persist in your cruel and selfish dietary choices and keep eating corpses and animal secretions, no-one can stop you. But don't pretend to anyone, especially not yourself, that you have ethics, biology or even your own personal interests on your side.
@@mello.b3373 so many sheep on this page. Most posturing. I find it amusing and sad. Agree with the comment.
This should be subtitled in many languages. Very important.
Feel free to go against your biology and create the menu that works for you, just don't be surprised when you can't convince anyone that isn't ashamed of their existence. Veganism is antithetical to logic and Alexs' attempt to link his veganism to morality destroyed his argument right out of the gate. Have you listened to his views on morality? He doesn't have a logical leg to stand upon and everyone able to follow his arguments know it.
Been working on making a subbed version in Japanese :) but I've been a bit distracted with other projects!
@@kenhiett5266 You're obviously unaware of the human digestive system. And REALLY jealous of his intellect.
@@hrh4961 If you had an I.Q. above room temperature; you could figure out my statement is correct before advertising your ignorance.
@@kenhiett5266 you made claims without backing them which is ironically the antithesis of what Alex has done. I would like to hear why his logical arguments on morality rebut the case for veganism.
Wow. This is powerful. I’ve supported you on Patreon for years and I’m so happy you’ve gone in this direction. Thank you!
Great speech man, well done! And you answered the questions really well.
I switched to a plant based diet earlier this year for environmental reasons because there was no denying the impact animal agriculture has on the environment. And after realising how easy it was to eat a plant based diet, and that we can be perfectly healthy, tracked my nutrients on the app Cronometer and was getting every nutrient needed. Feel great! It was only then I started to look into the ethical side of eating animals, watched the documentary "Earthlings" and vowed I would never contribute to animal exploitation ever again. People need to be educated on this abhorrently cruel and incredibly unsustainable industry.
Your way of talking and the way you present the problem and the logic behind your arguments is incredibly admirable. I have recently stopped eating meat and consuming dairy and I do believe that your speech is a huge reason for that. Thank you, keep doing great.
Thatonekid thank you very much
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I’m a two decade vegan. Don’t stop. You are right. Don’t let anyone bully you. 😘
CJA32able Would you be interested in doing an interview for a series of videos on long time vegans?
Damn. This guy is an original gangster. Mad respect.
yes and i am a pokemon
Tell me how you look?
Maybe like one of this real vegans
th-cam.com/video/RBXbePZyMmA/w-d-xo.html
@Mr. King Kong wow you’re toxic
Thank you for your honesty on all topics including this one! I went vegan in April 2018 as soon as I realized that I could survive and be healthy without contributing to so much of this suffering and injustice.
He's Channeling the Hitch beautifully and adding more slaps of his own.
There will never.... ever.... be another hitch!
Lucifer no... there is another...
Lucifer yet lots of Lucifers, obviously 👍
Agreed, his eloquence and wit are very reminiscent.
I don’t think Hitchens was vegan. I imagine he had a filet mignon, rare, with his Johnnie Walker Black Label. And a cigarette.
Well, that was perhaps the best speech I’ve ever heard...
Should we let animals go vegan as well?
@@Eesalitepill99 If you own one, then you could. But we can't change the nature of the other species, just ours (which we consider morally superior to other animals).
@@mello.b3373 any arguments or just unproven claims?