WARNING! DON'T Get Into Vinyl - PART1 - A Beginner's GUIDE
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So you wanna get into Vinyl Playback and Turntables and stuff! I get it!!! All the cool kids are doing it! But is it right for you? Watch the video and see if you have what it takes to get into the wonderful world of VINYL! Don't forget to like and subscribe! Peace, Out! - บันเทิง
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What a cool comment
We who worship music are forever building shrines to express our faith and devotion.
I think the attraction to vinyl is that it's many many quirks demand the user really direct his attention, time and money in the pursuit of a great listening experience- call it a kind of pilgrimage for the faithful.
As music delivery becomes cheaper and the streaming libraries larger the music itself is somewhat devalued. Vinyl is the utter and complete opposite of streaming. It demands from us all the things that streaming effectively killed off.
Hope your back and legs are feeling better and let's get to 5k by Jan 1!!
Well said!
In 1985 or so my roommate came home with a Thorens TD 166 , played it maybe a dozen times and stored it away to make room for CD. 28 years later after much begging I got that same table that turned me into a crazy audiophile. Like new it is one of my favorite things.
Mine is still going strong. It did take me over 2 years to find a replacement tonearm wand!
28 years is a long time to live with a roommate. .
Good stuff. I do vinyl for nostalgic reasons. CDs are my preferred method but if I really like an album or I listen to the album a lot, I also get the vinyl version. Keep up the good work.
There's room for everything and everyone... thanks for watching!
Fun, informative video (as always) for people wanting to dip their toe into the world of vinyl! Looking forward to Part 2.
Maybe you could consider a Part 3: Record cleaning / storage / maintenance...like suggestion for record cleaning products, sleeves for keeping the album covers looking nice, etc.
Hey there hats a great idea! And no one really talks much about record weights!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog I haven't tried record weights - do you think they help? Kevin over at Skylabs Audio says he likes record weights mainly because they look cool 😂
Always a good time to hear you wax lyrical about your beautiful vinyl collection and turntables. Alas, my vinyl days are firmly in my past, with my remaining vinyl bequeathed to my son and now all on CD. However, I still enjoy the technology, beauty, and magic of spinning platters. However, I will leave the vinyl collecting to others and remain happy in my streaming of ripped CD flac files. Keep us entertained, my friend, and let us vicariously enjoy the magic through your passion and enthusiasm. As always, thank you for your time and efforts sharing this with us all. As an aside, and a little controversial, a stylus is a needle feeding your addiction. 😂😂
Thanks, Simon! I think I did a pretty good job here discouraging folks! 😅
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog You denying people the opportunity to make the mistakes we made and learn from them! Shame on you, Bob! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh man! Ok so for me (i'm 53) it started back in the 70's when I ruined all my older brother's rock albums (by trying to play them and scratching the hell out of them balancing pennys on the cartidge). Then in the early 80's my mom bought me a a radio shack rack system with a turntable built in on top, i thought it was the cat's meow. Well then in the late 80's CD's came out. My girlfriend (now wife) bought me a Technics cd player and only used my record player a little bit. Then mp3's and Napster and I got rid of all my albums and CD's. Well then comes about 2008 when my wife and I was at a yard sale and a guy had a old Pioneer turntable for sale playing a Led Zeppelin 3 album with Pioneer CS 99 hooked up to a Nikko 8095 integrated amp. I purchased it all. I now have a Outlaw Audio RR2160MKll Integrated amp, MoFi Studiodeck with a Ultra tracker, Outlaw Audio M8 Subwoofer, Still have the Pioneer CS 99's (Love real walnut wood, my wife does not) with a pair of Dahli Zensor speakers to round out the 4.1 sound. Rebuilt my record collection, have 289 of my favorite albums. What a Fracking Rabbit hole (1st pressing's and reading and looking up the deadwax) I jumped down with everything i have learned. I do listen to CD's and mp3's with my Zune Mp3 player in my Truck. Occasionally stream at home with the Outlaw amp but nothing beats playing your favorite album with a cup of coffee in the morning or at night with a few of your favorite cocktails.
Wow, man! What a journey!!! I'm glad you're keeping Zune alive!
That cartoon is bang on ..as often cartoonists are .Brilliant minds .vinyl is indeed expensive and inconvenient….but we all love it
Thrill of the hunt!
I started building my audio space about probably 2 years ago with my very first turntable arrived this Christmas and I'm excited to explore this side of audio armed with nothing but nostalgic memories of enjoying records with my father as a child.
thank goodness channels like this exist
I appreciate you and I understand your "addiction!"
I appreciate you and I understand your "addiction!"
nowadays people have choices that I did not have as a music loving teen. Back then vinyl was the only game in town. No CDs, no streaming. no Internet, no youtube, no MP3s, etc. My vinyl collection goes back about 50 years. If you want to get into vinyl now ask yourself this - are you OK with having to get up every 20 minutes to flip the record over? Are you OK with vinyl records eating up your free space as your collection grows? Collecting vinyl can be expensive, are you OK with that? Are you OK with the expense of a decent stereo? If you're OK with these things then yeah, maybe vinyl is for you.
Well put, my friend. It is as close to an addiction as I've gotten. Still a helluva lot of fun though!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog I have about 1300 albums and 2000 CDs. I listen to and enjoy both formats. I do not compare them. For me a good stereo was always mandatory. I am so glad I grew up when vinyl was king. 🙂
That sums it up pretty good , I haven’t answered those questions yet myself
@@Nordraw just some things to think about before making the plunge. Getting into vinyl now is a commitment. I had no choice because there was nothing else. Nowadays there are options, and good ones. 🙂
Turntables are neat and I thought I would upgrade my equipment a year ago but just couldn't deal with the pops and clicks etc. Sold everything I had collected (mostly bought my LPs 40 years ago) and put the money toward cds of those LPs. Couldn't be happier.
Vinyl is a fantastic music format, and it soothes my troubled soul. But like many pursuits, it’s a labor of love, and you have to love to labor on your love. If you don’t want the inconvenience, perhaps vinyl isn’t for you. And that’s cool. Listen to music however it works for you.
Oh... it's for me!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog me too! Back when we started, you had the radio or records. I appreciate the convenience of digital music and still listen to it when I’m on the go. But vinyl just scratches an itch that you can’t get any other way.
I’ve been buying cassettes, vinyl, CDs, DVDs, books, magazines non stop since the early 80s. When I say early 80s there really has t NEVER been a lull in keeping track and following music. Maybe there was a couple of weeks here and there when I didn’t buy music. Considering I’ve also attended over 2000 concert and I always support one of the bands by purchasing music my collection is giant. I’ll always buy. I do use Apple Music daily just about on a academic level. All this considered someone will have a big bunch of stuff to deal with once I’m dead.
Returning to vinyl has been a great connection between me and our 15-year-old son. We get along fine but don't have a lot in common. Vinyl and the gear has been an activity we do together. It's also been a rediscovering of listening to an entire album rather than clicking through streaming selections. And now that I have the budget and means, I will not be stuck with the garbage I had in the 80s. The sound quality exceeds those of CD systems of the 90s. Of course, none of us had any idea what an external DAC was back then either. I probably won't go back to CDs given I have a WIIM and Tidal account. One can really put together an excellent system for not a lot of money between the second-hand market and Chi-fi stuff.
Check out my review of the WiiM amp!!!
I joined the vinyl wave 4 yrs ago. I got myself a Rega turntable. I enjoyed the experience a lot. It sounds good but the downside of it is over spending on vinyl records which is not practical. Vinyl here in my country is priced like a gold. So after 2 yrs I sold everything and just improve my cd player and enjoy my cd collection up to now.
What country are you in?
Great video ! Very Informative looking forward to more of your videos
Thanks!!!!
Grew up with Vinyl - my dad has over 3k and I grew up on Beatles, Stones, The Who, Queen, Springsteen, Floyd….. Zappa
Had a tiny collection in mid-late 80s and then went all CDs when I went into the service…
Fast forward to 2020 and like a lot of folks I got back into Vinyl…. Spinning on an AT-LP120 connected to a Denon AVR3500H playing through a pair of Polk Monitor 70 Series 2 - now up to about 405 LPs…. And still buy CDs..
Great channel ! Found you through Randy at CAM!
Appreciate you! Vinyl Rules! Thanks for joining no the club. BTW CAM is a champ!
My crates of vinyl are in my garage where they belong. I stream at 24/196 through a Wiim into a Denon 7.1.2 Dolby Atmos through Cerwin Vega D9s, VS120s etc. Atmos is the future. If you havent heard Beatles or Pet Sounds in Atmos you havent lived. Im in S. Austin if you want to come by and have a listen.
Drop those crates off at the studio! 😅I have full Atmos as well. I don't know if it's the future for most people, but watching Masters of the Air with it is great!
Great video! Cool setup too
I normally don't have 2 tables out.
That was a fun one. Good luck to any new vinyl listeners. I recently went off the deep end and got a reel to reel
Seek help!
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After getting into it earlier this year I remembered why I liked CDs when they came out. That said I am enjoying the journey. I love the sound of music on vinyl. I did absolutely miss it.
CDs are making a comeback though!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog I have those as well. Always will.
Humble Brag: Listened to my OG pressing of The White Album last week with my dad and brother to test Dad's recently tuned up Zenith Hi Fi Cabinet system with AM/FM, 8 Track and a 33/45/76 Turntable with a new Shure cartridge (not "shure" which) and the stereo 3 way speakers in each end of the SOLID WALNUT cabinet. Dad's 80 and had that system since I was a toddler in the late 1960s so it has a lot of history and HOLY F*** does it sound good.
I hate that I love vinyl. I'm in the hobby for the frustration and grief too LOL
My folks still have Grundig with Shortwave! Shure no longer makes carts by the way!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog The cart is by no means "new" but is a model that was compatible that the restorer had available hence why I don't know anything about it. It all does sound beautiful though. Listened to a bunch of Johnny Cash, The Band, Dolly Parton and some very old Harry Hibbs from back home in Newfoundland. I threw Black Sabbath Born Again on for a few tracks but Dad just wasn't into it. LOL
Always enjoy your videos and humor. Got into records 3years ago when my Mom passed. She bought me my first record player right before she did. I now have a marantz nr1200 with a yahmaha px-3 with two kef reference 105/3 speakers
Killer system! I lost my mom this year. Never thought to ask her for some gear! Missed opportunity!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog I was born in 1981 never played a record until three years ago. I love all formats. Primarily streaming, cds and records. Thanks for the reply.
New subscriber. Nicely done, enjoyed the video! Continued success to you!
Muchas Gracias, Amigo! I'll try not to disappoint!
Hey Bob - I'm getting back into vintage gear as a hobby. I'm close to retirement, and I really wanted to create sound like I remember back in the 70s and 80s. My first setup was a Kenwood receiver, Technics deck with Shure V15, and Advent speaks. Maybe not audiophile quality, but for a 18 year old on a limited income, it sure sounded awesome to me.
I just picked up some 70s Kenwood separates and a early 80s Technics deck. It needs a touch of work, so I'm taking my time to do it right. For now, I'll be driving Paradigms - at least until I can get my Advents refoamed and checked out.
Looking forward to the ride - best of luck with the channel!
That was a good video, I hope you stick with it. Me personally, I'm on the fence about getting into Vinyl, so this video is really hitting home. So far Streaming is my avenue of choice. Wiim Pro with a J2 DAC. Can't wait for part II. I'm a big supporter of local Radio. I think as a culture we are missing out by not keeping in touch with our local stations.
Hey, man thanks! WiiM is killing it right now. And the Geshelli folks are AMAZING!
You’re wise to really think about it. I went in headfirst and it’s been very frustrating. Mostly just the really poor quality of new pressings.
Great video Bob! You might consider a part three for cleaning vinyl. Just a suggestion. Happy Holidays!
Thanks! 3 parts it is!
I went on the cheap and it was a mistake. I didn't get the sound I didn't even know I was looking for. So I did more research and bought a Audio Technica LP 120 USB BT with a preamp for 300. I bought powered speakers with all the modern tech BT, USB and SD slots with 10 inch Woofers with lots of base. I've put $700 into it and I'm happy with that. I've already upgraded the stylus and it sounds great for what I need. So definitely do research and put money into it. But vinyl records have gotten expensive.
Patience!
first turntable in 1972 was a Garrard because it had a good reputation, unfortunately just before that they had gone cheap, I assume hoping to get by on that good reputation. I threw it away and got a Dual. It lasted for may years before I upgraded to a B&O, not knowing that it's cartridge wasn't interchangeable. Threw it away just recently and now have a Fluance RT82 and a Pioneer PL 514 I got thru GoodwillFinds for $65 (plus $35 shipping). Advertised as parts only but all it needed was a new cartridge and belt. I completely refurbished it (following a TH-cam video). It is semi-automatic, which I like. I'm amused by people that want a remote control with any new piece of gear but a manual turntable! The return mechanism on the Pioneer is very simple. I'll look froward to part two. you probably know already, but Skylabs has a couple of videos on the best vintage turntables.
Ca NEVER find anything good at the GOODWILLS in Austin. This town is just too damn hip for its own good!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog same poor selection at our local Goodwill, but Goodwill finds is online and covers the whole country. the pioneer turntable shipped from Wisconsin.
I love your vlogs. However, I am not into vinyl. I left it back in the 80's. I am more into CD's and other more convenient formats. I understand the nostalgia attached to vinyl, the sleeve designs and liner notes of the period. I think it's ironic how most vinyl vloggers are approaching middle age and beyond and say that vinyl sound is superior, when their hearing is demising.
Hot take! I get it. It's something we got addicted to as kids I guess. It was better times!
I think you explain vinyl and getting into it very well. Also I agree with your turntable choices. I'm a Technics fan and a Thorens fan. I've been into this stuff for decades now. Equally cd as getting great sounding music cheap is always appealing. Today an increasingly number of artists only release their music physically on vinyl. Ofcourse many artist appealing to the young and everyone else offer their music on steaming services but having that physical copy in your hands makes it special. Even if you in no way an audiophile. In Australia records are not cheap brand new typically going from $50 AUD up. Local artists only produce small runs so you must jump to buy quick or you will pay the stupid tax later for rare local records. Merry Christmas.
Thanks for the notes from down under! Does vinyl spun the opposite direction down there???
Great video. I was in my late 50’s when I went “back to vinyl”. That was 7 years ago. But it’s only been a little over a year since I’ve got the sound I’ve been hoping for. For sure a good cartridge and preamplifier is a must. Lastly if you were a cd guy like I was, you’re half way there.
What cart do you like!
Hello. I bought the Ortofon Red with the headshell so all I needed to do was screw it in!
@@jake105 now you set up for a blue upgrade down the road!
Yes. I hope it's worth the extra money. I don't want to get to carried away and keep upgrading everything. I really like my Denon DP-400
Part 2 will be worth a listen thanks.
Working on it now!
Just found your channel. Great intro video for the uninitiated, nice work! Newest sub here, Cheers! 🍺
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You got my attention at moldy oldies
Golden groove yard!
responding to all the cartridge choices, I like conical as well as elliptical! I know. Luddite. Started with with an '83 vintage Rega Plana 3 (RB200 arm, I actually prefer it). I still have it. I have a Technics SL7 for the ladies because they refuse to touch the now: Garrard 301, Ortofon 12" arm. SPU GM/E cart, Ortofon 2mBlue for the poorer pop stuff, Ortofon 2mMono for the old 60's and 50's vinyl I have. These can be interchanged quickly with just tracking weight adjustment as they are all in fixed heads. Honestly, that old mono stuff, with a proper mono cartridge is so visceral, live and yes - in the room sometimes better than the expensive MC SPU. It is amazing. I do use a G.Slee Jazz to EQ the older FFRR Decca mono's and yes, it does make a difference.
Great teacher. I learnt A thing or two
Maybe I missed my calling!
I’m about 3 years in getting back into vinyl. I’m running a VPI Cliffwood into a Yamaha A-S301 and some JBL L1 speakers ( bookshelf speakers from the ‘90s, not the big L100s).
I love it because of the sound, the way it gets me away from a screen/device, and the fact that I own the music and have compensated the artist more fairly when I buy a new record.
One thing I wonder as I ponder upgrades in 2024 - does it make sense to dump a bunch of money into a tube amp and nice speakers when my primary genre is rock music, much of which comes from an era of pretty tight recording budgets and crappier sounding recordings?
Thanks for sharing all the great content with us! I hope you see lots of growth for the channel in 2024. Take care, my good man!
You know... the artist compensation is a GREAT point! That should have occurred to me as I have many professional music friends! Congrats on a killer system! Thanks for your support!
In terms of sound quality, there is a video by Darko going over the tested dynamic range. It was really enlightening to see the same recording put through the meters in different formats. Not just via subjective hearing but actual measurements. Vinyl acquitted itself quite well.
Darko is the man!
Just keep it simple when first starting out integrated amp and a good budget turntable
Amen! I'm listening/auditioning the WiiM Amp at this moment. Holy S#!%, how can this be $299. I'm going to hook a turntable and preamp up to it tomorrow.
Good segment. Since you brought up phono preamps, how do the ones found in a typical AVR (I use an Onkyo TX-RZ830) compare to stand-alone FunFi options?
Well, I've always heard (and assumed) to get a product like that to come in at a certain price points, they have to use low cost components. Not always the case, but you can see how a $500 amp might have sub-standard phono pre and/or headphone section!
My wife and I wanted a turntable a few years ago to play some of our old vinyl and new stuff we had bought on artist's websites. Not really knowing that the suitcase setups were actually crap, we thought it was just our old records and chalked up the ones we bought from websites as getting damaged during shipping. Nah, that wasn't it. We went to HHN at Universal Studios and bought straight from the source and very carefully brought them back home. Still skips and sputters and even just stops playing. Then late last year I started getting into "hi-fi". I watched videos talking about Audio Technica being a pretty good entry level setup and never once heard any of these vloggers talk about the dreaded suitcase crap 😆. My wife still listens to her suitcase crap but can't longer than about a song before it craps out. So needless to say, I will be making the jump to an actual turntable setup in the coming months as I'm expanding into this great hi-fi journey. Awesome video and you earned my sub! Sorry for the long story 😅
I enjoyed reading it! Let me know how I can help you! Where are you commenting from?
@UnitedStatesofAnalog Thanks for the reply and I will definitely take you up on your offer of help! I'm tuning in from Middle Tennessee!
Great video! With that being said let me give some caveats that I have with vinyl. 1) No pricing consistency at all. The pricing is all over the board. Some albums that shouldn’t cost much are priced into the stratosphere. Some are cheap. It literally makes no sense at all. 2) Sound quality. Some great albums just sound like crap. The music is great but the actual recording quality sucks. Are remastered albums better? Sometimes and sometimes not. I’ve heard remastered versions that sound horrible when compared to the original. 3) Too many formats. Direct to disk, Original Master Recordings, Half speed, 45 RPM versions, etc.
It’s a bloody mess trying to find out which version you really want when there is no test drive. It’s just too easy to get burned. Some versions of the albums that you love sound better than the original and some are horrible. The vinyl companies are masters of marketing and often set us up for the fall. The greed here is off the hook! Often, we get burned 40 ways from Sunday.
4) Grading. Some retailers are good at this and some are terrible. How much is a used good quality album worth? Who knows? Too much guess work here for me. Sometimes the cover is nice and the vinyl looks like it spent 2 years on the road with the J. Geils Band. And Vice versa.
5) Cheap turntables. If you buy a cheap table, that’s exactly what you have my friend. Good tables cost money. It’s just the way it is. Look at it this way. Do you like Chevy Vegas or Ferraris? Any table worth its salt will cost you a good sum of money. Don’t forget, you are buying a machine here. Good engineering and build quality will cost you. I have a good “entry level “ Pro-ject table with an Ortofon cartridge and it comes in around $600. Is it great? No. It’s okay.
6) Can you find any album that you desire? No. Some are almost impossible to find and if you do, look out for the price. And of course, are you willing to pay the price and get a very worn or damaged piece? Is the cover “ring worn “ or had a couple of hundred joints rolled on it? Does it even have a sleeve? Is it paper or something else?
7) Time. Do you have time to go from one record store to another and rifle through endless stacks of junk wax looking for that diamond in the rough? Can you burn a tank of gas every Saturday going to Goodwill and endless garage sales? This process can be exhausting and very tedious.
8) Do you know how to set up a table correctly? Align the cartridge? Set the azimuth, tracking force, overhang, etc. Do you need a stylus gauge? These are real concerns especially if you want a used or older table. Do you need a cleaning machine, clamp or weight, brush, Zerostat? This road can be very long.
These points are just a few things to consider before jumping into this thing called vinyl. Now, let me say this.
I love the way that vinyl sounds when properly done. I really am an analog guy. But…..is it really worth it?
Not for me. I have a very nice Marantz CD player and love the sound that I get from it. CD’s are a lot more cost effective for me and it’s easy to find most of them for an affable price. They are really hard to damage. Jewel cases are cheap too. I also stream lots of music from various websites. The libraries are endless and you can listen till your ears fall off. Lossless is widely available now too. Great sound with little to fret over. You need a stereo rig with a decent streamer and DAC to do this correctly but it’s still more cost effective than vinyl.
To close, the advantages to CDs and streaming far outweigh the vinyl collecting hobby to me. But, if you have the time and money to go the vinyl route then do it. It can be rewarding!
Wow! I think you've nailed all your points spot on. Some of collect because we fell into the habit as kids... like any addiction! There is also the thrill of the hunt. Finding a holy grail once in a while. I won't fight you. You're spot on. Thanks for taking the time for some well thought out comments!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Thank you Analog for the reply! When I was a young man, I bought albums like crazy. They were affordable and like you say they were an experience. We couldn’t wait to see the cover art and listen to both sides. By gum it was exciting! My friends and I would be at the record store every week with our tiny paychecks just biting at the bit to check out the new releases. It was a great time in our lives and I never regret it. Of course this was before social media ( Way before social media ! Lol! ) and hunting wax was truly a weekly event. I would say that most new releases were in the $4-5 dollar range and minimum wage was $1.60 an hour. Now that I am retired and some new releases or remasters are over a “C” note, I have had to slam on the brakes. Thank you for the reminder of how much fun the “hunt” was. It was so worth it. Streaming is not near as exciting but the libraries of content are mind boggling. We laughed at the Jetsons but in many ways we are living their lifestyle now. Tempus Fugit.
I second the suggestion of doing a part 3 on cleaning/ storage (and your mention of weights). A good cleaning with a vacuum type cleaning machine can make a world of difference in the sound. I also have a record clamp on my 20 something year old MusicHall mmf 7 that made a badly warped original Who My Generation lp listenable again. Keep up the great work, love your videos!
Great idea!
is that a record day special reissue to sell to record day enthusiasts?
I'm still using my Sansui FR-5080 turntable that I bought used in 1977 along with a Sumiko Wellfleet cartridge and an old Yamaha receiver from 2000 connected to a pair if Wharfedale EVO 4.1's that I just bought and it all works very well and sounds great.
Bitchin' system... how's the Wellfleet? Best I have is the Moonstone. Output is a little low on that. Thanks!!!
Its a very nice cartridge. I have it paired with an IFI Zen preamp and low output isn't a problem.@@UnitedStatesofAnalog
Keep it going. I love vinyl. trying to buy a record store.
Do you need an investor?
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog nope i'm good
Jealous of that Thorens. I really want one. I’ve been spinning my Pro Ject Debut Pro S for about a year now.
Hard to beat a modern turntable though! Keep listening and keep watching!
Nicely done
So my 25 yr old daughter wants to get into vinyl with me
Okay, I have a Marantz cinema 60 I have the paradigm Series Nine version two. And I want to add vinyl turntable to the mix. My budget for my turntable is about $400-800-1000
The Integrated has a phone or preamp built in. So what do I add to that setup to get into vinyl
I got into vinyl when I was 9 or 10 years old. Started with my father's classical vinyl followed by my own Ventures On Stage and The Beach Boys In Concert. I started working in record stores in 1970, quit college, and my career was set. I worked a total of 20 or more years in several record stores and ended up with a vinyl collection of about 5000 or so from then to the present. I decided to move to the Philippines so I sold the collection to my best friend, the owner of Music Millennium in Portland, OR. I kept some favorites. I just bought a Sony PS-LX5, a decent turntable. I'll upgrade later. I have some favorite vinyl being stored with my son. I'm starting to buy more vinyl again. I can't get it out of my system. I also sold most of my very large CD collection after ripping them to a hard drive. So now I have some vinyl, some favorite CDs, and streaming via Qobuz, Tidal, and Spotify. And, of course, TH-cam. Love that you have Grass Is Greener by Grant Green on your wall. An excellent album. Thanks for your wonderful videos. I watch them all. I always find your videos so easy to relate to personally. By the way, I am almost 72 years old which will give you an idea how long I've been participating in this vinyl madness.
@@JimmShaffer-vr9wu what a journey mine has had many starts and stops but I started at 14 in Jamaica and for many years the best summer parties were at my house until I got into the workforce and my hobby migrated to live reggae concerts and online radio podcast I haven’t touched my vinyls for 29 years due to Napster and CDs then mp3 so now it’s time to get back in and I am a tad scared but no time like the present
I began getting into vinyl when cds came and lp collections were getting dumped for cheap. I'm accustomed to surface noise. I'm still a record buyer because I have a taste for rare sounds that are still not, or will never be on streaming.
You probably bought some of my dumped records. Did you pick up a first British press of the Beatles White Album? It's mine!
I was working for a production company in the 1990s and they had a Technics SL 1600 turntable just sitting there and not being used. They asked me “do you want it?” of course I said sure and I still have it but it’s just sitting there in my bedroom as a museum piece. I still collect records from time to time on a budget, but I primarily listen to my CDs and Spotify. They’re basically collectibles for me as of now. I can’t stand dealing with pops, skips, and warps. It takes me back to the frustration of my childhood.
I got back into vinyl a few years ago and already upgraded all my equipment, I try to only buy good remasters (Analog Productions, MoFi, etc) or if lucky find an OG in great shape and a quality pressing (My preference).
I meticulously clean and maintain my records and honestly, very rarely have a pop or click, there is usually a little surface noise but most Quality Records pressing have very little noise.
I agree, don't like pops/clicks/static, but you can avoid them with a little effort, and I'd rather listen to a good copy of an album to my copy of the CD any day.
The soundstage is usually much more expansive, less compression and greater dynamics IMHO.
This video made me realize I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IM DOING!
What else do I need?
I have a Turn Table , tube amp and speakers ( no power to them)
Wait until you see the 2nd video... coming soon!
Yeah i saw that cartoon about the guy getting into vinyl for the expense & inconvenience. I forget where. But yeah...
Sometimes, art imitates life! I hope you subbed me!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog But of course I did. I really enjoy the Funfi segment.
Are you referring to the Audio Technica MicroLine stylus? Wasn’t sure if it was a brand, model or type.
So there is a vm95ml with a micro line stylus. I put one on my Thorens... and it sounds really good!
Cheap audioman led me here. Nice stuff
My goto recommended table for new people is the audiotechnice lp60. Its easy to use, has a built in preamp and sounds great for the money. You can hook it up to anything including a cheap chineese class d amp which would probably come with bluetooth. Pick up a pair of cheap speakers from marketplace and youre all in for like 300 bucks. Maybe less.
I mention that a lot to people who are shopping in that price range. You can usually pick it up on a whim locally. But if you can wait, a Fluance or UTurn is in that range.
Btw every time I see that Technics TT I question if I really need to buy a car. I can't afford a car as beautiful as that TT.
They will something to stir inside you!
It baffles me when people deride vinyl as having ticks and pops, etc. I have LPs and 45s that I bought over 50 years ago that still sound good and have no defects. Of course I took good care of them, and I'm meticulous in making sure they are crud free before playing. I have occasionally gotten new records that had an issue and I returned them, but that has been a rare occurrence for me. I even have ones I bought at my local reStore for a buck that are clean and quiet, but I make sure they are in decent shape before buying. I think that people who consistently have this problem are doing something wrong and are better off with CDs or streaming.
Do you have a record cleaning machine? If so, what's working for you?
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I have one I think was a VPI I used back in the '90s, and it had a rotating platter with a vacuum arm. After I got into CDs and later digital I think my wife stuck in the attic. Now that I'm back into vinyl all I use is a Furutech Destat III and my old Hunt EDA Mark 6 Brush. I have an LED light over my turntables so I can spot any specks and it works quite well. I'm not really having an issue with gunk on my stylus so I don't really feel the need to wash my records. Like I said it has been doing the trick for me and if I do hear something it's because I got in a hurry and missed a speck.
@@chrislj2890 thanks for the info! Continued success and happiness with your collection!
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Thank you kind sir!
for carthriges you can go with the Audio Technica ATN3600L . very cheap ad play good like a 300 dollards stylus
Is it THAT good? I see they slapped it on the new JBL table!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog yes
I used to have a turntable years ago but was never happy with the sound - always sounded slow and off key. However with so many things now coming out on vinyl (and expensive) is it worth having another go or should I stick with cds/downloads/you tube etc. My present system consists -
REGA Saturn Dac/cd player
sony 4k player going into earc of LG tv and through the rega DAC
Roksan Kandy mk3 amp
Dynaaudio speakers.
My last turntables were Rokan Xerses (had a plinth design problem)
various technics turntables. Michell basic turntable.
As I said I have sensitive ears and am fussy about speed. I would spend about $4000 on a new turntable and phono stage.
Please let me know.
Go for it if you think you can handle the inconsistencies, expense and anxiety! I hate those 3 thinks in all other matters, but savor them in vinyl. We are all a little sick! Thanks for watching! You put together a great system!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Thanks for the response. I can only think back to when I had vinyl and although sometimes it produced a kind of euphoric delivery, a kind of epiphinacal warmness, at other times it sounded slow, boring and uninteresting. I have now built up a digital system that I like and enjoy.
The main problem is that my main record shop (Piccadilly records, Manchester, Uk) has cut down cds and is specialising in vinyl. The amount of times I have been interested in something on their lists only to find out it is only on vinyl. Now I could buy the cd online, download or stream it from you tube or buy a turntable. That's the main problem/question.
Funny in a way, I find high’s and cymbals much nicer on CD, bass is better on vinyl. Shoot bought my first real turntable with my paper money, back in the early 70’s, I have had, turntables by PE, Gerard, Technics, Dual, Dennon, Fluance. When I got my first real turntable, plug it into my Lafayette receiver that I have bought, a couple of years before, and hardly any sound, it was like what the heck. My old RCA turntable I was running thought it worked fine, turns out it had a high output ceramic cart. I did not know I needed a pre-amp, I mean I was what like 14? It is a funny hobby, so currently, yes I do buy a lot of new vinyl, I still listen to my old vinyl, CD’s and I stream.
I haven't heard the term ceramic cart in forever! What a vinyl journey!
I am just glad things seem to be turning around, a couple of years ago, I thought the whole music industry would collapse. But I am glad that vinyl is making a comeback. Heck I still miss the days, when on every corner there was an audio store, or a record store.
Because of the hassles and hoops distributors make it next to impossible for retailers to get their money back on defective product. So much they would just rather “eat it” than go through the hassle.
Often they will just take said record and place into the Bargain Bin where they just take the hit.
Yeah... it's messed up. Some dealers look at you like a criminal! Bad on both ends!
Not for me, but loved the video. I’m even off collecting CDs now: sadly there isn’t anything that is scarce apart from the odd deleted side (which means a four-or-five fold markup). If the artists would promote their wares by vinyl-only maybe that is a thing? Anyhow I’ll always buy stuff music-playback, just that it’s digital.
Heard. CDs are a bargain right now. I have a pretty solid collection!
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My favorites are the people that spend $40 to $75 on vinyl releases…and then slap them on a $50 Crosley😂
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People buy turntables according to budget, and how much they want to get into vinyl records Most people aren’t audiophiles who foolishly spend thousands on a turntable A good place to start is around the 400 to 500 dollar range if you want a very good quality turntable 1000 to 2000 is getting into little difference between them for the money area Good video!
Thanks! Agreed!
Agreed. I ordered a Fluance RT85 last week. It just came in yesterday. I got it set up and played a few albums. Such a good turntable for $500. I can't see spending more as vinyl isn't going to be my primary source. High resolution streaming is just too good. I also have a bunch of CDs.
Most of my vinyl is classical. I like the nostalgia of vinyl. Since I do like classical so much I can find plenty of LPs on the cheap that are in great shape and sound fantastic.
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I'm a poor man ...and My bigger mistake is Buy me a turnable audio técnica ....the lps it's so expensive 😢
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Never understood the “walk of shame”. I never felt any shame. I’ve paid money expecting something of a certain quality. If the seller hasn’t upheld their end of the terms of sale, that’s their problem, not mine
I'll never forget getting up Sunday morning and having to put every CD that I played back into their cases. Really annoying. Not to mention the occasional scratch. With lossless streaming I now don't see the point...
Fast forward 25 years and I've spent too much money on my rig to introduce distortion into the chain with a nostalgic medium. But, you know, that's only one guys opinion.
Heard. It's a habit or addiction most of us developed at a tender age. We are probably trying to fill some kind of of emotional hole because our parents didn't love us enough! Thanks for reminding me!😂
Vinyl isn’t for everyone. I love it but will say that when the Compact Disc format came out in the 80’s, I jumped ship quick. Better than tapes and records and way easier to operate… not to mention no popping and crackling. I got back into it for nostalgic reasons and also because it looks great as part of a system. I have a Thorens too…TD160
I sold my whole first collection in the 80s like a dumb-dumb head!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog I did the same thing in the 90’s with my CD’s. Before that I lost my entire album collection from when I was a teenager after a divorce… she kept my records…. If you remember Sam Kinison…. “I WANT MY RECORDS BACK…..!
Although I liked the album art on vinyl records, I was very happy to throw them all into the trash when CDs came out. The heartbrake of the skips and scratches on vinyl versus the pure sound and easy song selection on CDs? I have no regrets. Of course the CDs have now been digitized so they are also ready for the trash.
So funny! @@johnbrender7635
The walk of shame! I’ve only done it once and it was so awkward that I vowed to never buy new vinyl locally again. I buy used records from my local store and new records from Amazon, cuz I don’t give a shit how many I have to return to get a decent copy. New pressings are so bad (even “audiophile” ones) that I’ve almost given up a few times already.
You and me both! I just don't like the way Amazon treats some records during transit. I've got some in bags and some floating around freely in large boxes.
Why is the mic sound so BaD on an audiophile channel?? 😊
My bad. Rushed setup.
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3rd way to lose a friend.......loan them money.
Great point! I won't do that!
Yah, Whats your budget, Now Startby At Least Doubling it. Then -----
Cds generally sound way better than streaming. Sampling rate and bits only count for so much. A very misunderstood thing by many. I like the sound of some of my redbook versions of a cd, than the SACD version of the same music, and SACD samples at a million times per second compared to 44.1 thousand per second for regular cds. Don't buy that lps have better sound than cds. Some do and some definitely don't. Especially f you have a truly great cd player. I've never had a cd player quit on me and go bad. Playing something with a laser doesn't degrade the surface of what the music is pressed on, like a cartridge playing an lp. I have never had a cd players laser wear out either. A USED CD is the equivelent of a new lp. But $5 vs. $40 is quite a difference. A cd can have a hunded scratches and play without any noise at all, very often. Only if the scratches are so deep and severe will they be audible when playing the cd. There is a great nostalgia factor with lps and I play them also. Perhaps cd players have just a slight mechanical presentation to their sound and vinyl has a slightly more effortless ease; but in my experience, only with a good moving coil cartridge. Moving magnet cartridges in my experience, sound like they're "trying" and that makes for a mechanical sound. So subtle, almost subconcious, but it's definitely there. You need amazingly fast transient response to accomplish that magical ease and effortlessness that maybe only lps have and good reel to reel tapes have. Glad to have what lps I have, but can't see spending $35 and $40, when I can get cds for $2 to $5 or less. And as I said for all practical purposes a used cd will play perfectly over 90% of the time, like a brand new
vinyl lp is supposed to.
There is a record store here in town that was selling CDs for 25 cents each to clear out their warehouse! No lie!
Cds are so good. Most of them... I've been. doing 60+ step modifications on them, as I've been experimenting for over 30 years. They sound cleaner than the half speed mastered lps I was into back in the 1980s. We gladly paid $20 for many of those records when new. Now we can get that kind of ofsound quality for a buck or two. The early early cd players were at fault for the most part. The cds were great, and their greatness is beginning to be realized by people with really much improved cd players...I have no idea whether my modded cd players are state of the art, beyond the state of the art, or not that close. My guess is one of the first two two though....or close.
Silly humans.
All the music is almost for free to pluck from the net.
How to make it sound good is surprisingly easy.
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Don’t do it! I would definitely go for the CDs. I have at least 1,000 records, but my CDs get way more play because they’re way more convenient.
Yes, I still call them records, NOT vinyl.
I shut the video off at the prime or joke get to your point
Sorry you feel that way. Maybe I'm not for you, but we can still be friends!
I’m 200+ records deep, BE WARNED, you will eventually want the bells and whistles. My sound system has probably costed me about $3K at this point and time, and I see at least another $1K I want to invest currently.
Records are expensive, but they are a sound investment in more ways than one.
I found Alice In Chains MTV unplugged in a shop a few years back for $45, that album now sells around $250+. I could sell it for a profit tomorrow if I so wanted.
I hear you. I found out I was sitting on a $300 Pumpkins record from the early 90's! Who knew!
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Heard!
1- How about you and company producing , plaYing back and keeping safely protected those old records about God, family and nation in that order.
2- AND I MEAN IT 2!..
3- ...Shema!!!.
All this discussion about sound quality is horse BS. First, music is listened with a heart. So just choose format which you LOVE. End. Second, sound quality does not depend on the medium only - some things sound good on record, some good on CD, some things will never sound good on any medium. I prefer vinyl, although I admit it can get expensive and inconvenient, but that is what I love. CDs can sound great, hifi streaming and digital files with nice dac sounds great as well..but I cant fall in love with them.
Eloquently stated! I believe everything you said. Sound is just fun to talk about!