It’s the perfect hobby, it has purpose and entertainment, collectors mentality (if you want it to), no age limits, unlimited options, and no matter how many times my interest fades, I always get sucked back into it!
In the 1990s, CDs started to be mass produced, and CDs slowly started to outsell vinyl records. 2000-2010 was a dark age for vinyl records. Online shopping started diverting people from going to physical locations to buy things, and many record shops had to close because of it. Also, young people of this time cared more about iPods and iTunes than vinyl records. In the early 2010s, vinyl records start to make a gradual comeback. Movies and TV shows, such as “Guardians of the Galaxy” and “Stranger Things,” popularize 1970s and 1980s pop culture; including vinyl records. As of 2023, vinyl records are high in demand with many record shops opening/re-opening. Department stores are also putting vinyl records back on their shelves.
I never got rid of my vinyl and I never got rid of my CDs/SACDs. I stream a lot. I'm 62 and have been collecting since 1971. I just don't understand the 'all or nothing" mentality or the need to diss one format in favour of another. Each format has its advantages and disadvantages and suit different environments. I live happily in a multi format universe and the reality is most folks do.Each format offers a very different interaction for the listener - streaming sees me "grazing`' and doing the musical equivalent of "channel hopping" all the cable TV stations.
I’m 62 and have been really into music since I was 12 years old. I have records purchased over a 50 year period as well as memorabilia, CDs and listen to on a daily basis. My music room is my therapy, mental escape, hobby and no drugs or alcohol involved. Don’t get me wrong an adult beverage, a toke, how ever you relax, just keep in enjoying the art of music.
I'm still amazed how old vinyl records are and still sound incredible to me.its a technical marvel. And it also feels special to find a old bargaining LP which plays like it was just made yesterday.
Digital sources are good if you are in move, walking around, sitting in a car or plane etc. because it is compact. Imagine you walk around, earphones pluged in a turntable with 12" vinyl format. 🥸 But if you really listen to a vinyl at home - aaahhhhh, complete different experience! And I am happy to see young people rediscovering vinyl / analog.
Holding a vinyl album brings me closer to the music somehow. I started buying vinyl again four years ago and I love it. Holding the cover while spinning the disc is a unique experience.
As a young person who just got into vinyl I found this film excellent. Personally it's less about the sound quality and more about the overall experience with the music and tangibility of the art. Can't wait to start collecting more!
Records are meant be played, not to be used as a picture on a wall. It's great for young people to learn and listen to the legends. That's how this never gets old.
Well, most people who hang records on the wall, actually have a second copy of it or as it was back when I was younger (I'm almost 50 now) they're old unplayable records!
Something that was overlooked & not mentioned was how important, appealing & joyful it was to look at the albums' artworks! Just going to a record store to look at album covers was very fun and entertaining. Their images are pretty impressionable!
What most people fail to understand, it's not that analog sounds better than digital, it's that vinyl records are mastered better than the compressed/brick-walled digital equivalents that have been released since the late 90s. An early pressed CD will sound as good, if not better, than vinyl on comparable quality equipment. The whole "vinyl revival" thing was basically the recording industry's solution to the lost revenue from pirated music.
I have never stopped buying vinyl. It is an overall experience. The artwork will identify a track or album before it leaves the sleeve. As a child I remember the smell of the hmv record player I had, it was a gorgeous mid century modern cabinet with speakers built in. I had stories played on album as a kid, then as a teenager bought 7" singles and then onto albums and 12" singles. As a dj I played for hours. I now listen at home on my bang and Olufsen beolab 8000's and lose myself hearing parts of the tracks I'd been denied through other speakers. The most comforting sound, is the faint crackle ( I look after my stuff) as I wait for the music to kick in.
vinyl records are always number one. there are no other formats like 12" or 7"vinyl. they are cultural phenomena and the first big music format worldwide. even if they cost more than cd's, it's worth it because it's an asset and an investment. vinyl gives you the 'feels'. and if you're grown up with 12"vinyl, logically, the sound of it is more natural for you because your ears are used to that vinyl analogue music. maybe, therefore, some people talk about a 'warmth' in the vinyl record sound. for music enthusiasts, vinyl records are more than music. just watching them spinnin' on the technics mkII, and mixin' them together is joyful & fun. speedin' them up & down and pushin' them wax with your fingers. it's a more natural process of recreating music and listening to it. mixin' with vinyl records is an artform itself. and not only that. some 12"vinyl records and albums are a piece of art. every new music format that the industry brings to the market involves additional new acquisition costs. with that said, it's clear what's going on. the industry wants our best, our money. it makes more sense to buy vinyl and support the artists instead of moving to another music format and making the industry more rich. and i know well that some music, especially club mixes, were only available on vinyl. as long as no one supports me to buy the latest technology music formats, and as long as it's not essential for me, why should i change to another format ?! it's just a money trap with all the latest technology stuff. enjoy your time and watch out for you(r) hereafter, instead of chasing money traps 😉
It is all about nostalgia. Studio recordings in the past 20 years were mostly done digitally, so any vinyl records released today are digital converted to analog. It is then pointless to say that vinyl sound better, as a good DAC converter with a high quality digital recording is much better to listen to. Vinyl sounds different because of the much lower dynamic range compared to high-quality digital recordings, and this is why some people misunderstand it as having a "better sound". Then, you have all the impurities that comes with vinyl: Pops, cracks, hiss and wow & flutter. I am 59 and grew up with record players, something I really loved. Some 3 years ago, I bought a high quality record player and some new vinyl records. It was just for the nostalgic feeling from my teenage years.
I'm glad someone said it. The only reason I have a decent vinyl setup is for ripping records for the MUSIC not available in any other way or format. It seems "vinyl" is more important than the music that is imprinted on it. Let's remember folks, vinyl is simply a delivery system. The MUSIC is what is the important part.
It's also about the differences in the Mastering for both mediums, especially EQ, and even more especially Volume/Loudness and Compression. What ruined a lot of CD's sound was incorrect Mastering for CD in the early days, and from the 90's onward the damn "Loudness Wars". Aside from differences from the playback gear used, the "differences" people hear is the difference in the Mastering and the loss of dynamic range/over the top loudness/compression of a lot of CD's/digital
how much is "high quality recordplayer nowadays" I had a revox b795 as a 20 year old - Today i dont have anything going on -the first cd player i bought was in the same sound league almost but the sound tired my ears and that has been the case since -Digital music dont want to listen to much -not streaming not mp3s or cds
Shortly before noticing this documentary I had listened to a Walter Wanderley album, which is a small part of the Bossa Nova genre I find fascinating and rewarding. Records were part of my life from the mid '60's onward and one aspect of the format I really enjoyed in the late 1970's was buying direct to disc recordings. The best examples were quite dynamic and I still search for them, usually they can be found for very reasonable prices compared to when they were released as they tended to be rather expensive and limited editions. For many years I listened to CDs but gravitated back to records 5 years ago and back to that vast analog world, finding many artists that I formerly never knew, of course musical preferences changed as I aged so that opened a door into so much diversity I would have not previously considered. I have yet to find an analog recording converted into the digital format that can surpass an original pressing on LP. Admittedly there have been more than a few marginal releases mastered even during the heyday of the 1950's and '60's but overall a much more involving experience. One senses they might be " addicted " when what was supposed to be a diversion with a single turntable becomes five, in fact I use two in my modest bedroom system as I listen to albums practically every day and thought it might make sense to slow down the wear and tear. I seem to have an appreciation for Japanese direct drive from the late 1970's into the early 1980's, what is considered the '"golden age " for the design. An added advantage is having different cartridges as well with their own unique sound signature. I suppose retirement does have certain advantages, being able to listen to music any time and more of it available allowing one to visit local record stores. The increasing number of reissues, especially in the Jazz audiophile category can definitely create a budget crisis at times but I have to admit I often find more excitement going through the 1.00 section which has allowed me to add quite a number of lesser known musicians to what is basically a musical library. Very fortunate to have access to the large number of ex CBC Radio Vancouver records that are made available at one store in particular, albeit in small doses as there are hundreds of thousands in storage that are slowly put on sale. That adds another part of the history of music as well, knowing at one time an album I have was played over the air. I have also found inner sleeves or notes signed by the artist in a few of the 1.00 LPs which is always an added bonus. Except for the limitations that most of us have trying to store one's collection the only real negative aspect is the thought of moving all of them!
I am a vinyl collector and the reason is: It is a warmer sound, the cover art size and the beautiful art, the ritual of playing the record, with friends over and the experience and conversations you have playing records, it is fun collecting it like a treasure hunt. There are so many good bands you forget about, especially through 65-79
Thanks. My experience my not be everyone's, as I'm on the autism spectrum. When I get lost in something, I *_really_* get lost in it. But I started listening to 'my own' music in 1976, when I was 11. By my mid-teens, I'd started buying albums here & there. I was old enough that my parents basically let me have their old JC Penny component system in my room. I'd get a new album, and sit down in my room with it. Opening it, putting it on the turntable, and donning those big RCA earmuff-style headphones, I'd listen to the whole thing, while reading the lyrics and/or liner notes. You could really get into how the tracks fit together, and get an idea of what was being communicated across the entire album. It was a piece of art. That's almost gone now. Music - like most all entertainment & software - is digital now. That means you don't own a physical copy. You really don't own anything at all. If your subscription expires - or even if there's just some 'mix-up', all 'your' stuff is gone. I still prefer physical media, partly because it's mine. The ephemeral nature of digital media has been - and will continue to be - used against us. I resist. IDV8. I vinyl. tavi.
I got back into vinyl in 2000 after an 18 year hiatus when I attended a big all night rave party and seeing many record players and DJ's and the music was cool and interesting too. After that cleaned off my old Lp's and acquired new music on vinyl too.
I'm 54 and have been dj'ing since I was 16 , I never stopped buying vinyl , in fact every week I buy all kinds of stuff , lots of house techno Italo disco , funk etc
Once i clean a used record, I put it on the turntable and ALSO have the computer recording WAV files of it. This phone has a micro SD card with a million songs, all from my vinyl
You know this is all individual perception, not fact. The sound you hear from any speaker is an analog signal, whether it comes from a record, cd or mp3. A cd is just a laser that reads pits on a sheet of plastic while a record is a sheet of plastic getting spun by a motor with a needle dragging over its surface that distorts as it moves toward the center. The difference we hear is in the mastering.
First album I bought back when I was 13 years old ( I’m 53 now ) was Kiss Alive and became the biggest kiss fan EVER! The artwork was the best with albums. Just staring at the pictures and the tattoos it came with. That was the start of 80s metal for me. Greatest time of my life going to see live bands. I lived 20 minutes from the New Haven Coliseum in Connecticut and saw the most amazing bands there. It’s been a great life and music gets you through it. Enjoy it when you can.
I got into vinyl hesitatingly - i bought all the great audio equipment but was listening to digital - then I got into vinyl - the difference was immediate. folks, if you have a high end setup you need vinyl - digital is good but vinyl brings it home.
I continue to be amazed by the growth in vinyl over the past decade. I figured that the bubble would burst by now, but it hasn't and doesn't look like it's going to any time soon. If nothing else, it's awesome to see people loving music enough to pay extra for vinyl.
Soy un nuevo fan absoluto del vinilo. Nací en los 80's, época del cassette, las radiocassetes mastodónticas, el walkman... Década en la que el vinilo transicionó-evolucionó hacia el CD. Lo gracioso es que tuvimos en casa un tocadiscos que prácticamente no usábamos. Digamos que el cassette fue el formato más popular en aquel momento porque te permitía lo que no te permitía el vinilo; llevarte la música a cualquier parte. Sin duda fue el formato que más disfrutamos los chicos y chicas de aquella época. Y fue una lástima, porque nos perdímos disfrutar lo maravilloso que era realmente poder escuchar música en un tocadiscos y de toda su liturgia tan única. Pienso que el viinilo ha de continuar evolucionando tecnológicamente para alcanzar la excelencia, mejorar el formato, el material o el proceso de grabado, que le permita romper con sus limitaciones técnicas y físicas sin tener que abandonar, eso sí, de toda su esencia ni de nuestros tocadiscos. Ojalá el futuro del vinilo se encuentre en el vinilo HD y podamos continuar disfrutando de esta maravilla durante muchos años más.
Just returned to music after 40+ years. What a rush. Ive got a 50 yr old turntable that is awesome. Ive got CD's and Cassette tapes as well so I well covered. Long may vinyl be around. Its like rolling a cigarette yourself, its not about just the finished product but the preparation and drama that goes beforehand. Every pop and crackle has a history and a story to tell. Everyone in the documentary showed a palpable enthusiasm and dare I say fondness for vinyl that I don't think can be mirrored across the other formats.
Well, fortunately I saved most of my classic rock albums from the 60s-80s. I’m thrilled we’re having this vinyl resurgence but it’s hysterical at the same time. People seem to forget how by the 1980s we were tired of dealing with vinyl and the inconvenience. I can remember the times I would come home from school and find a record warped on my turntable because the sun came in through the blinds. Also, how about skips?? That aside, I always missed the artwork/gatefolds/liner notes, etc.
Great Video! Vinyl is a great format to listen to music. Golden days of the Music Industry will never be the same. I sell my 12” Vinyl singles at my own gigs & regularly give away signed copies to enthusiastic fans. It’s a wonderful thing
I born in 1961 in Brooklyn. I like both vinyl and CDs because who want to be interrupted by a commercial while relaxing to some music and napping. I don't do music subscriptions. I enjoy music from the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s and I enjoy 70s music for my cardio workout, wink.
It's a fascinating phenomena. I sell a lot of vnyl to people who got rid of theirs late 80's/90's, I ask them why they are now buying it back and they never have a good reason. Just following 'fashion'!!
We lived in our local Record store as kids in the 70's , I was from Oshawa and Starr Records was just up the street from school , on the weekends we would take the Go Train to the city and hit all the record stores and Head shops !! The best of times, if I only had a time machine I would go back to Peter Dunn's Vinyl Wax Museum on Yonge St. right now😀
As a young person who just got into vinyl I found this film excellent. Personally it's less about the sound quality and more about the overall experience with the music and tangibility of the art. Can't wait to start collecting more!
28.00 the 'silver bullet' opinion I was waiting for!. Yes, vinyl is inconvenient/takes up space/needs special equipment etc etc BUT.............I love music so much it hurts and, to enjoy it at it's best I am more than willing to invest my time dealing with all these 'restrictions' because it actually excites me to prepare to put on a record!. Turn on my amp (wait a few seconds), decide which cartridge/stylus I might use/ have my cleaning tools to hand for records/stylus etc/ check turntable belts occasionally and so on. I would also happily sleep over in my local collectors record centre to make sure I don't miss anything!
My 14 yo daughter loves Taylor Swift, big surprise! But the great thing is, TS production on vinyl is beautiful, but art and sound, and my daughter realizes this. She’s learned the value of owning the music, instead of renting it, and, she actually sits down, in a room and listens to the whole record. It’s so great to see this, it warms my heart.
Idn where your Woolworths was located but ha, you got ripped off my friend. I remember it being 2.59 at mine. Lots of first pressings for 1.99 in the late sixties to 5.99 by the end of the 70s. I remember buying the beatles 45 of I want to hold your hand for 1.19 at the western auto. Ha, a rip for just 2 songs..
I grew up in the 60s when albums were $3.99 in L,.A, And that was during the British Invasion. Havent bought an album in decades, as I play my great collection, featuring iconic Canadian bands like the Guess Who.
We remember when the industry was transitioning to CD, the CD Player, etc. That was an EXPENSIVE process! CD’s were more expensive, then you had to replace your vinyl copy with the CD, then you had to buy a whole new system to play them. Now vinyl is back and doing the same thing again. However, very glad vinyl is back and for the most part, are better quality-just stupid expensive!🎧
I wouldn’t agree with better quality on all. Not sure what type of music you are into, when I place a Motown label record from the mid 1960’s vs one recently pressed, absolutely no comparison. The older album has heavier base, percussion and mastered from first generation tapes vs a later one pressed.
In 1988 all I had to do was buy a cd player and plug it into me existing stereo. Not big money. It sat there next to my turntable and cassette deck. Still have all 3 formats in 2023 plus a cd player that records cd's onto a USB stick. Have acouple Sony cassette walkmans and a portable Sony cd walkman. Still don't stream. I have so many lp's cd's 45's maxi-singles and stuff I recorded to cassettes I doubt I'll ever stream. Plus all the movies and concert dvd's I've collected my plate is full!! 🎸🎸🎸
Great list. The Spy Who Loved Me is definitely one of the best band films. Ski scenes, pyramid scenes (the Egypt scene are amazing) submarines. It’s all there plus an underwater Lotus 😂
I am so glad that there is so much interest in vinyl these days. I like to record my vinyl into my computer so I can enjoy the next best thing to dropping the needle when I'm doing other things.
I have a small indie music studio in AZ. I record almost 100% analog, (unfortunately into digital but I tend to record as if I’m recording tape.) I have a guitar studio full of tube amps, a huge vinyl collection and I open my computer about once every two months. I’m an 80’s kid, I’m tech savvy, I just have an old soul.
I can't listen to my vinyls right now because I don't have a turntable and even if I had a full setup, I live with people who don't like my taste in music. I have to listen to all my music on spotify either with headphones or in the car, but I'm still picking up new albums that I think are good enough to own and one day I shall listen to them properly.
Kids are really missing out on the experience of an album. Folding out a 3 way album coverto it's full 36 inch glory to read all the liner notes, the inner cover artwork etc.
As someone that grew up with CDs I think much of what was said here can apply to them as well. I have vinyl and CD but I prefer CD for the most part, even though I dumped way more money into my turntable and records. I appreciate the love and passion for vinyl, but I hate when the arguments for vinyl circle around this idea of digital being less involving or worse sounding. That simply is not true.
Exactly! They over-romanticize it waaaaay too much. And the best joke is new music on vinyl......most of the time it's digitally recorded and then put on analog vinyl 🤣🤣🤣.....priceless comedy. And they'll tell you it sounds 'warmer' too. And most people, kids, buying vinyl play it on crappy sets too at home....oh it sounds so 'warm'.....gimme a break. Only positive....they buy music instead of pirating or dumb streaming....and listen to whole albums instead of just the played to death hits.
@@PainInTheS There were also millions of albums on CD that were AAD or ADD (originally recorded on analog, so..) and the CD world suffered from very poor mastering, clipping, etc and garbage dynamics. Now adays you can also have DDAs or ADAs on LP (and the mastering is done for LP), it's different, and it can sound amazing, because it all comes down to the mastering for a specific format. I personally prefer each era with it's format--(I get analog recorded era LPs for the most part, and CDs for the digital recorded era ) however, in the end it all depends on the label, mastering, engineering, and so forth. There's great quality to be found in every format, it all depends on case by case. What is true however, is that many labels don't have that quality and just cut an LP from a poorly mastered source or even use the same source of CDs and charge 30-40 bucks...and having mediocre systems/turntables.....and that's a different story
I too have vinyl and digital and my observations are that there is a lot more variability in vinyl sound quality, different pressing plants, recording companies, differences between first pressings and later pressings, countries of manufacture, etc, etc. I have multiple copies of the same records (approximately 50% of my collection contains at least two or more of the same LP's, up to 10 copies of cheaply obtained LP's) so I am very aware of the problem. Some records will be different in volume from one side to the other, some would sound more dynamic but surface noise would be excessive and some would even sound faster than others, but when you get a good one there is a very special something that CD's cannot reproduce and I have spent evenings listening to very expensive systems, some costing over half a million dollars that could not reproduce on CD what I heard on vinyl. When you hear it you will know immediately and it will be a revelation. I would also suggest ultrasonic cleaning, even for brand new records because pressing plants use a release agent to stop the record sticking to the stamper and your results will suffer as long as your stylus is scraping that muck out of the grooves and having it collect onto the cantilever. Also, correct turntable set up can make a huge difference but CD's don't have this requirement so good results are much, much easier to achieve and probably why some people claim CD's sound better.
@@sportsfanivosevic9885 So you need a more than half a million setup to hear the beauty of vinyl? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Cd's.....I'll just enjoy these vinyl people saying they hear things that aren't there....besides the pops, crackles and stuff. 😄
@@PainInTheS Have you been drinking? I think you misread my post. PS If you associate pops and crackles with vinyl, it's old vinyl that has'nt been maintained. You should give new vinyl a spin but try not to spill your drink on it.
I always said vinyl never went away it just hibernated for a bit while the music industry sorted itself out. The inherent value of it also far surpasses digital, well maintained and sought after vinyl can command decent money for those who choose to engage in that market. Inconvenient for some but an investment for others.
What is old is new again. When I was a young adult, some fashions from the 1950's Crenoline skirts, and the early 1960's skinny ties were popular in the 1980's. Even older groups from the 1960's ie The Rolling Stones, the Kinks, and the records of pasted musicians ie the Doors with Jim Morrison, Janice Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, were still selling. The hubby and I would go to Los Angeles and check out Amoeba records. I could spend hours in tht place. It is an experiece checking out the art work on the record sleeves and to read the lyrics and sometimes the records came with a poster folded up. The crackling of the record before that first song started to play. The vinyl record cleaner you used to keep it clean. Good times
All these record documentaries and NOBODY puts the needle down properly! There is a LEVER!!! A guy in here says all vinyl from 74' on sounded terrible! WTF HA HA
I don’t remember any vinyl records I purchased after 1974 sounding terrible, they sounded GREAT!!!! He states you heard pops, clicks, what the hell, if that was the case you would return it and exchange it, and again if that ever happened.
@@georgemusic4all4seasons The quality of the vinyl being used by 1980 took a dive. Makes sense because CD’s were being pushed as the main format and vinyl was a afterthought. Unless you bought “audiophile” pressings. Then when vinyl started to make a comeback round 15 years ago, the quality needed to return
The Album was and experience Even if it was old a scratched up and you hear the pops the analog can't be reproduced to digital as well You could also physically see it turning it was a personal thing Putting you favorite record on and laying back on the couch or bed and enjoy❤
Didn't have a record player as a child because my parents didn't have the money. I had seen a record player at an aunts house tho and was curious about it at the time but now as an adult I have a plan for a system and records too.
Okay, seriously, the "comeback" is at its zenith now. But everywhere you look, people are stating the obvious - that CDs are NOT going to go away, that they are putting up a far stronger fight then you're being led to believe. Check this out here on TH-cam. I never got rid of my vinyl back in the 80s and 90s because I had too much music which was irreplaceable - now I'm in the same situation with CDs. Sorry, but I have too much great music that ISN'T available on vinyl! But we've wandered into silly territory now. For many vinyl is little more than a fashion statement: "Oooh I'm so cool, I have some LPS!" As my 8 year old daughter would say "That's silly". MEANWHILE Vol 1 - you don't have to do very much googling to find out that thousands upon thousands of 2023 vinyl buyers are leaving feedback grumbling about noisy pressings, clicks, pops - yup, warped discs, dished discs etc etc. Oh dear - and bent up sleeves! This is pitiful - for god's sake you're paying FAR too much for the privilege of this stressful hassle. I know people will suffer to be in fashion - but perhaps you need to get a bit of a grip? Vinyl can sound fantastic if you get a quality pressing but that's not so easy is it? MEANWHILE Vol 2 - Yup some CDs sound harsh. This is because from about 1998 inwards, the industry f*****d millions of discs by over EQ'ing aka "Loudness Wars". But, but, but.... with so many CDs available for pennies now, it doesn't take very long to suss which CDs sound great and which to avoid. Oh... and you'd be surprised how much more sophisticated CD players are now - they've come a long way and some are absolutely magical. Buy a great CD player, buy your music for pennies - sounds good to me!
VINYL NEVER WENT ANYWHERE TO ME. I'VE BEEN DOWN WITH IT SINCE BEING A KID, WE USED TO GET THE LATEST RELEASES BACK THEN FOR OLD SCHOOL RAP MUSIC. THEN AS I GOT OLDER AND SEEING THE HIP HOP DJ CATCHING WRECK ON THE ONES AND TWO'S GRANDMASTER FLASH AND SO ON. I GOT THE IDEA THAT I WANTED TO DO THIS THING CALLED "SCRATCHING". THE NINETIES CAME AROUND AND STARTED TO TAKE NOTICE TO UNDERGROUND HIP HOP GROUPS INCORPORATE THE "DJ" INTO THE MIX(NO PUN INTENDED) AND THE SAMPLING OF MUSIC TO MAKE BEATS. THIS BECAME THE REAL INTRODUCTION TO WANTING TO COLLECT VINYL. NOW I'M TRULY IN LOVE....A LOVE SUPREME....LIKE COLTRANE.
A sweet program here, but kinda flat and dull, showing Crosley record players (record destroyers), and folks keep talking about warmer sound I think nearly completely misses the point. And about how many records are made from digital files is also an insult that they are not going into there. There needs to be more discussion on higher quality playback, right player, cartridges, analog cuts or vinyl, and handling of these expensive platters.
I find the CDs very aggressive ever since I started listening to vinyl. I grew up in the 80's, so it's a great nostalgia to me. Vocals do have a great tonal quality on vinyl, the only thing CDs outshine vinyl is the loudness and the absolute silence ( there is no silence in real life, so I'm not sure if it's a quality)
Alternate take: Vinyl takes up space, pollutes the environment when producing in large quantities. It's just another form of consumerism. It should be about the music, not the format. Who knows? I'm 19, I've never heard of any of the bands mentioned in this documentary. I like my music fast and disposable. I've never even seen a CD in real life and would die without Spotify. I guess what I'm saying is I rock, you don't.
Don't hate on the history man...if you weren't there, I understand why you don't get it. If we were to rephrase the wording in the film, the main point would likely be that the idea of "disposable" music is what the vinyl comeback is in response to. more so than "digital" music.
The 180 gram thing is more or less a sales gimmick. It's possible that a heavy record may help to dampen vibration while on the platter (I've never noticed that), but the thickness of a record has nothing to with sound quality since all grooves are cut at the same depth (it is the width of the groove that makes a difference in sound). The only real advantage to heavier records is that they may be more resistant to warpage or breakage
I love music and for ME it was about the suspension of disbelief. I had a good tuntable and amp and speakers, but the first time I played a CD without all that wow crackle and noise a light went on. I was not listening to a recording, but to music.....sorry folks but that's my story.
I have been buying and selling vinyl records since 1984. If I were to guess how many records I have sold. It would be close to one hundred thousand! Also My Grandmother worked at Quality Records ! I have always loved vinyl records! The only thing I do not like is the price of a new vinyl Record?? Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures 😀👍❤️🇨🇦🌎❤️🔊🎶🎶🎶🎶🎉👏👏🎉🎉💯💯💯
Great documentary. It would be much better and more pleasureable to watch if the audio levels were as equal as possible. Some parts are extremly quiet and some especially when the music comes in is very loud. I was constantly turing the volume up and down.
I started buying vinyl in the mid 90's when albums in good condition where on average $3 each, yes they really common albums. Hard to find albums, most of them I have never come across. I don't like brand new albums, as it takes away the fun of finding an original, or an old reissue, that is still vintage. I've own over 2,000 albums at one point, not including singles.
Being an ex-semi pro drummer who taught drumming, local session musician I was astounded at my collection that I’ve had for over fifty years. This led me to Renaissance, especially Annie Haslam and of course super group Asia. Now in retirement it’s time to catch up and I do hope that both artists mentioned release vinyl to replace original CDs that are imo only meant for the car.
That has NOTHING to do with the medium, and EVERYTHING to do with the Mastering of the audio that ends up in the medium. Make a master from the original master tapes/files and put it on an LP, then take the same tape/file and do an equivalent master for CD/Digital, same levels/dynamics, and discounting the gear you use to listen to in on, there is NO functional difference. What spoiled everything was the "Loudness Wars", NOT the fact that it's analog or digital. And not ALL CD's or Digital files are normalized and brick walled to death...
@@conan5885 it's my understanding if you mix a vinyl record too loud it skips? I know not all digital/CD releases are brickwalled, but so many of them are, while their vinyl counterparts aren't (or aren't as bad).
@@scee1871 Apart from new releases, if an album is old enough to have an original vinyl release as well as a CD equivalent, chances are those albums first CD editions aren't brick walled or normalized at all, and be at normal levels and dynamics, maybe a bit louder than the LP equivalent, but that's all. For reference, i lately was trying to make an ABBA best of, and all original CD album releases from the mid 80's/early 90's sound pretty good mastered at decent levels. The releases from their 2008 BLACK BOX are brick walled and normalized to death, a complete abomination that makes my ears sore after listening to it on headphones after 10 min. If you want you can check out the ridiculous difference on the sound wave for the same song on both versions here: i.imgur.com/5XHPQqC.jpg
It doesn't matter! It's what you are listening to, not how you are listening to it that matters. I just like good music, I don't care if it's on a CD or a record.
Allan Cross kind of says it without saying it here: vinyl is a status symbol. Like, "I'm a real fan - I treasure this, I care for it and I spent a tremendous amount of money on it."
The only way that can be translated without sounding incredibly pretentious or snobbish is "I'm a real fan *of the vinyl medium* " and not "I'm a real fan *of music* ". Because it has nothing to do with loving music more or less, it has do do with loving a specific music storage medium and having *deep pockets* to afford to support that activity/hobby.
I don't hate records, I grew up with them, I was fortunate enough to have a "proper" turntable/magnetic cartridge since the age of 8 (while most kids had shitty record players with ghastly ceramic cartridges), and I still have a few of my old records. I vividly remember how awesome The Human League DARE sounded through my Sennheiser headphones back in '81. I have a high-quality turntable now - bought several years ago when Technics decided to cease production of the SL-1200, mostly use it professionally, for digitizing clients' records. Turntables look cool - well, some do, some don't! However, nothing is more infuriating than hearing people say it sounds better than digital. It doesn't. It has its charms, sure, but it's categorically and measurably inferior to digital. FACT! The number of times that the dreaded Crosley and its shite ceramic cartridge makes an appearance in this video is somewhat distressing, too! Dear God...no!! Send that thing back to the sweatshops of China, where it belongs.
I guess sounds "Better" is pretty subjective. Sounds warmer or clearer may be more in line with what was meant. I love listening to records and hearing new details that I never heard in the digital version. Van Morrison's Into the Mystic is a good example for me. There seems to be so much more depth to the record than the digital version. You may not like Crosley and tgheir lack of quality but it's hard to argue that they have done as much as anyone for the resurgence of vinyl in the past decade or so.
@@lot48films Well, there are perhaps individual instances where the vinyl version of a song sounds subjectively "better", but that's in spite of it being vinyl, not because of it being vinyl. Had that very same vinyl master tape been copied to CD, you'd still be hearing whatever it was you heard on the record (minus all the clicks, pops, surface noise etc.) Vinyl is SO variable - no two records sound exactly the same, records from different pressing plants sound different, phono cartridges vary enormously, stylus wear affects sound, etc etc. For me, that's not good enough. I remember very well buying new LPs in the 80s, and HOPING they sounded good. Many didn't! Never had that issue with CDs. Even with CDs and the "loudness war", the quality is still there, even if dynamic range is reduced. As for Crosley - well, they've made some efforts to "do better", but the basic mechanism and ceramic cartridge used in their most popular record players is a crime against audio. There is no excuse to be using ceramic cartridges in 2023. I just don't see the point in making something that sounds so bad, when for 20% more cost you could make it sound "ok". An inexpensive magnetic cartridge and better quality speakers could have made the "Crosley Cruiser" a far less "miserable" product. Anyway....
I’m so sick of people talking about “warmth” when describing advantages of vinyl. There’s things like a bigger soundstage and more ambiance as well. The better the turntable and phono preamp, the more you hear these things
Not sure how you think that's even possible, when vinyl has such limited separation (around 30dB) and digital channel separation is essentially infinite. 🤷♂️
It’s the perfect hobby, it has purpose and entertainment, collectors mentality (if you want it to), no age limits, unlimited options, and no matter how many times my interest fades, I always get sucked back into it!
Well said!
In the 1990s, CDs started to be mass produced, and CDs slowly started to outsell vinyl records.
2000-2010 was a dark age for vinyl records. Online shopping started diverting people from going to physical locations to buy things, and many record shops had to close because of it. Also, young people of this time cared more about iPods and iTunes than vinyl records.
In the early 2010s, vinyl records start to make a gradual comeback. Movies and TV shows, such as “Guardians of the Galaxy” and “Stranger Things,” popularize 1970s and 1980s pop culture; including vinyl records.
As of 2023, vinyl records are high in demand with many record shops opening/re-opening. Department stores are also putting vinyl records back on their shelves.
Whether it’s vinyl, cassette, CD, digital, or whatever, music is what matters.
I never got rid of my vinyl and I never got rid of my CDs/SACDs. I stream a lot. I'm 62 and have been collecting since 1971. I just don't understand the 'all or nothing" mentality or the need to diss one format in favour of another. Each format has its advantages and disadvantages and suit different environments. I live happily in a multi format universe and the reality is most folks do.Each format offers a very different interaction for the listener - streaming sees me "grazing`' and doing the musical equivalent of "channel hopping" all the cable TV stations.
I have some LPs that have never been released on CDs. My music collection includes vinyl, CD, SACD and DVD-A.
Sell your CDs and SACDs, keep Vinyl
Yeah man people are soooo angry and have to rage on something all the time. Not good.
I’m 62 and have been really into music since I was 12 years old. I have records purchased over a 50 year period as well as memorabilia, CDs and listen to on a daily basis. My music room is my therapy, mental escape, hobby and no drugs or alcohol involved. Don’t get me wrong an adult beverage, a toke, how ever you relax, just keep in enjoying the art of music.
Well said!
I'm still amazed how old vinyl records are and still sound incredible to me.its a technical marvel. And it also feels special to find a old bargaining LP which plays like it was just made yesterday.
Digital sources are good if you are in move, walking around, sitting in a car or plane etc. because it is compact. Imagine you walk around, earphones pluged in a turntable with 12" vinyl format. 🥸 But if you really listen to a vinyl at home - aaahhhhh, complete different experience! And I am happy to see young people rediscovering vinyl / analog.
Awesome video! Thank you!!!!❤❤🎉🎉 Support and purchase vinyl!!
Holding a vinyl album brings me closer to the music somehow. I started buying vinyl again four years ago and I love it. Holding the cover while spinning the disc is a unique experience.
As a young person who just got into vinyl I found this film excellent. Personally it's less about the sound quality and more about the overall experience with the music and tangibility of the art. Can't wait to start collecting more!
@yobb1n544 thank you! Si happy to hear that you enjoyed it. Happy collecting!
Ultrasonically cleaning my 1100 ( I'm up to 669 or so :) LPs when I came upon this Doc. Very enjoyable! Thanks from another youth from the 70's!🌹
Records are meant be played, not to be used as a picture on a wall. It's great for young people to learn and listen to the legends. That's how this never gets old.
Agreed 👍
true it kinda irks me whenever i see people hang their vinyls on the wall...
Well, most people who hang records on the wall, actually have a second copy of it or as it was back when I was younger (I'm almost 50 now) they're old unplayable records!
Great documentary think Amma go buy a record player now
Something that was overlooked & not mentioned was how important, appealing & joyful it was to look at the albums' artworks! Just going to a record store to look at album covers was very fun and entertaining. Their images are pretty impressionable!
I feel like that was an important point that was made in the film. The artwork is a huge part of the experience, for sure.
What most people fail to understand, it's not that analog sounds better than digital, it's that vinyl records are mastered better than the compressed/brick-walled digital equivalents that have been released since the late 90s. An early pressed CD will sound as good, if not better, than vinyl on comparable quality equipment. The whole "vinyl revival" thing was basically the recording industry's solution to the lost revenue from pirated music.
I have never stopped buying vinyl. It is an overall experience. The artwork will identify a track or album before it leaves the sleeve. As a child I remember the smell of the hmv record player I had, it was a gorgeous mid century modern cabinet with speakers built in. I had stories played on album as a kid, then as a teenager bought 7" singles and then onto albums and 12" singles. As a dj I played for hours. I now listen at home on my bang and Olufsen beolab 8000's and lose myself hearing parts of the tracks I'd been denied through other speakers. The most comforting sound, is the faint crackle ( I look after my stuff) as I wait for the music to kick in.
vinyl records are always number one. there are no other formats like 12" or 7"vinyl.
they are cultural phenomena and the first big music format worldwide. even if they cost more than cd's, it's worth it because it's an asset and an investment. vinyl gives you the 'feels'. and if you're grown up with 12"vinyl, logically, the sound of it is more natural for you because your ears are used to that vinyl analogue music.
maybe, therefore, some people talk about a 'warmth' in the vinyl record sound.
for music enthusiasts, vinyl records are more than music.
just watching them spinnin' on the technics mkII, and mixin' them together is joyful & fun.
speedin' them up & down and pushin' them wax with your fingers. it's a more natural process of recreating music and listening to it.
mixin' with vinyl records is an artform itself. and not only that. some 12"vinyl records and albums are a piece of art. every new music format that the industry brings to the market involves additional new acquisition costs. with that said, it's clear what's going on. the industry wants our best, our money. it makes more sense to buy vinyl and support the artists instead of moving to another music format and making the industry more rich.
and i know well that some music, especially club mixes, were only available on vinyl.
as long as no one supports me to buy the latest technology music formats, and as long as it's not essential for me, why should i change to another format ?!
it's just a money trap with all the latest technology stuff.
enjoy your time and watch out for you(r) hereafter, instead of chasing money traps 😉
It is all about nostalgia. Studio recordings in the past 20 years were mostly done digitally, so any vinyl records released today are digital converted to analog. It is then pointless to say that vinyl sound better, as a good DAC converter with a high quality digital recording is much better to listen to. Vinyl sounds different because of the much lower dynamic range compared to high-quality digital recordings, and this is why some people misunderstand it as having a "better sound". Then, you have all the impurities that comes with vinyl: Pops, cracks, hiss and wow & flutter. I am 59 and grew up with record players, something I really loved. Some 3 years ago, I bought a high quality record player and some new vinyl records. It was just for the nostalgic feeling from my teenage years.
I'm glad someone said it.
The only reason I have a decent vinyl setup is for ripping records for the MUSIC not available in any other way or format.
It seems "vinyl" is more important than the music that is imprinted on it.
Let's remember folks, vinyl is simply a delivery system. The MUSIC is what is the important part.
It's also about the differences in the Mastering for both mediums, especially EQ, and even more especially Volume/Loudness and Compression. What ruined a lot of CD's sound was incorrect Mastering for CD in the early days, and from the 90's onward the damn "Loudness Wars". Aside from differences from the playback gear used, the "differences" people hear is the difference in the Mastering and the loss of dynamic range/over the top loudness/compression of a lot of CD's/digital
how much is "high quality recordplayer nowadays" I had a revox b795 as a 20 year old - Today i dont have anything going on -the first cd player i bought was in the same sound league almost but the sound tired my ears and that has been the case since -Digital music dont want to listen to much -not streaming not mp3s or cds
Shortly before noticing this documentary I had listened to a Walter Wanderley album, which is a small part of the Bossa Nova genre I find fascinating and rewarding. Records were part of my life from the mid '60's onward and one aspect of the format I really enjoyed in the late 1970's was buying direct to disc recordings. The best examples were quite dynamic and I still search for them, usually they can be found for very reasonable prices compared to when they were released as they tended to be rather expensive and limited editions.
For many years I listened to CDs but gravitated back to records 5 years ago and back to that vast analog world, finding many artists that I formerly never knew, of course musical preferences changed as I aged so that opened a door into so much diversity I would have not previously considered. I have yet to find an analog recording converted into the digital format that can surpass an original pressing on LP. Admittedly there have been more than a few marginal releases mastered even during the heyday of the 1950's and '60's but overall a much more involving experience.
One senses they might be " addicted " when what was supposed to be a diversion with a single turntable becomes five, in fact I use two in my modest bedroom system as I listen to albums practically every day and thought it might make sense to slow down the wear and tear. I seem to have an appreciation for Japanese direct drive from the late 1970's into the early 1980's, what is considered the '"golden age " for the design. An added advantage is having different cartridges as well with their own unique sound signature.
I suppose retirement does have certain advantages, being able to listen to music any time and more of it available allowing one to visit local record stores. The increasing number of reissues, especially in the Jazz audiophile category can definitely create a budget crisis at times but I have to admit I often find more excitement going through the 1.00 section which has allowed me to add quite a number of lesser known musicians to what is basically a musical library. Very fortunate to have access to the large number of ex CBC Radio Vancouver records that are made available at one store in particular, albeit in small doses as there are hundreds of thousands in storage that are slowly put on sale. That adds another part of the history of music as well, knowing at one time an album I have was played over the air. I have also found inner sleeves or notes signed by the artist in a few of the 1.00 LPs which is always an added bonus.
Except for the limitations that most of us have trying to store one's collection the only real negative aspect is the thought of moving all of them!
I'm 282 years old and I've been collecting records since 1741. I love this hobby!
WHAT ?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I am a vinyl collector and the reason is: It is a warmer sound, the cover art size and the beautiful art, the ritual of playing the record, with friends over and the experience and conversations you have playing records, it is fun collecting it like a treasure hunt. There are so many good bands you forget about, especially through 65-79
I couldn't agree more!
Thanks. My experience my not be everyone's, as I'm on the autism spectrum. When I get lost in something, I *_really_* get lost in it. But I started listening to 'my own' music in 1976, when I was 11. By my mid-teens, I'd started buying albums here & there. I was old enough that my parents basically let me have their old JC Penny component system in my room. I'd get a new album, and sit down in my room with it. Opening it, putting it on the turntable, and donning those big RCA earmuff-style headphones, I'd listen to the whole thing, while reading the lyrics and/or liner notes. You could really get into how the tracks fit together, and get an idea of what was being communicated across the entire album. It was a piece of art. That's almost gone now. Music - like most all entertainment & software - is digital now. That means you don't own a physical copy. You really don't own anything at all. If your subscription expires - or even if there's just some 'mix-up', all 'your' stuff is gone. I still prefer physical media, partly because it's mine. The ephemeral nature of digital media has been - and will continue to be - used against us. I resist. IDV8. I vinyl. tavi.
I got back into vinyl in 2000 after an 18 year hiatus when I attended a big all night rave party and seeing many record players and DJ's and the music was cool and interesting too. After that cleaned off my old Lp's and acquired new music on vinyl too.
I'm 54 and have been dj'ing since I was 16 , I never stopped buying vinyl , in fact every week I buy all kinds of stuff , lots of house techno Italo disco , funk etc
Once i clean a used record, I put it on the turntable and ALSO have the computer recording WAV files of it. This phone has a micro SD card with a million songs, all from my vinyl
Really enjoyed watching this. Thanks.
You know this is all individual perception, not fact. The sound you hear from any speaker is an analog signal, whether it comes from a record, cd or mp3. A cd is just a laser that reads pits on a sheet of plastic while a record is a sheet of plastic getting spun by a motor with a needle dragging over its surface that distorts as it moves toward the center. The difference we hear is in the mastering.
First album I bought back when I was 13 years old ( I’m 53 now ) was Kiss Alive and became the biggest kiss fan EVER!
The artwork was the best with albums. Just staring at the pictures and the tattoos it came with.
That was the start of 80s metal for me. Greatest time of my life going to see live bands. I lived 20 minutes from the New Haven Coliseum in Connecticut and saw the most amazing bands there.
It’s been a great life and music gets you through it. Enjoy it when you can.
That sounds like a great place (and time) to live for a music fan!
I got into vinyl hesitatingly - i bought all the great audio equipment but was listening to digital - then I got into vinyl - the difference was immediate. folks, if you have a high end setup you need vinyl - digital is good but vinyl brings it home.
Yes!!!
I continue to be amazed by the growth in vinyl over the past decade. I figured that the bubble would burst by now, but it hasn't and doesn't look like it's going to any time soon. If nothing else, it's awesome to see people loving music enough to pay extra for vinyl.
It really is amazing to see. 🎶
Soy un nuevo fan absoluto del vinilo. Nací en los 80's, época del cassette, las radiocassetes mastodónticas, el walkman... Década en la que el vinilo transicionó-evolucionó hacia el CD. Lo gracioso es que tuvimos en casa un tocadiscos que prácticamente no usábamos. Digamos que el cassette fue el formato más popular en aquel momento porque te permitía lo que no te permitía el vinilo; llevarte la música a cualquier parte. Sin duda fue el formato que más disfrutamos los chicos y chicas de aquella época. Y fue una lástima, porque nos perdímos disfrutar lo maravilloso que era realmente poder escuchar música en un tocadiscos y de toda su liturgia tan única. Pienso que el viinilo ha de continuar evolucionando tecnológicamente para alcanzar la excelencia, mejorar el formato, el material o el proceso de grabado, que le permita romper con sus limitaciones técnicas y físicas sin tener que abandonar, eso sí, de toda su esencia ni de nuestros tocadiscos. Ojalá el futuro del vinilo se encuentre en el vinilo HD y podamos continuar disfrutando de esta maravilla durante muchos años más.
Just returned to music after 40+ years. What a rush. Ive got a 50 yr old turntable that is awesome. Ive got CD's and Cassette tapes as well so I well covered. Long may vinyl be around. Its like rolling a cigarette yourself, its not about just the finished product but the preparation and drama that goes beforehand. Every pop and crackle has a history and a story to tell. Everyone in the documentary showed a palpable enthusiasm and dare I say fondness for vinyl that I don't think can be mirrored across the other formats.
Well, fortunately I saved most of my classic rock albums from the 60s-80s. I’m thrilled we’re having this vinyl resurgence but it’s hysterical at the same time. People seem to forget how by the 1980s we were tired of dealing with vinyl and the inconvenience. I can remember the times I would come home from school and find a record warped on my turntable because the sun came in through the blinds. Also, how about skips?? That aside, I always missed the artwork/gatefolds/liner notes, etc.
I sure remember that too!
Great Video! Vinyl is a great format to listen to music. Golden days of the Music Industry will never be the same. I sell my 12” Vinyl singles at my own gigs & regularly give away signed copies to enthusiastic fans. It’s a wonderful thing
I born in 1961 in Brooklyn. I like both vinyl and CDs because who want to be interrupted by a commercial while relaxing to some music and napping. I don't do music subscriptions. I enjoy music from the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s and I enjoy 70s music for my cardio workout, wink.
It's a fascinating phenomena. I sell a lot of vnyl to people who got rid of theirs late 80's/90's, I ask them why they are now buying it back and they never have a good reason. Just following 'fashion'!!
We lived in our local Record store as kids in the 70's , I was from Oshawa and Starr Records was just up the street from school , on the weekends we would take the Go Train to the city and hit all the record stores and Head shops !! The best of times, if I only had a time machine I would go back to Peter Dunn's Vinyl Wax Museum on Yonge St. right now😀
As a young person who just got into vinyl I found this film excellent. Personally it's less about the sound quality and more about the overall experience with the music and tangibility of the art. Can't wait to start collecting more!
Thank you! Enjoy the hobby...it sounds like you 'get it' already.
28.00 the 'silver bullet' opinion I was waiting for!. Yes, vinyl is inconvenient/takes up space/needs special equipment etc etc BUT.............I love music so much it hurts and, to enjoy it at it's best I am more than willing to invest my time dealing with all these 'restrictions' because it actually excites me to prepare to put on a record!. Turn on my amp (wait a few seconds), decide which cartridge/stylus I might use/ have my cleaning tools to hand for records/stylus etc/ check turntable belts occasionally and so on. I would also happily sleep over in my local collectors record centre to make sure I don't miss anything!
My 14 yo daughter loves Taylor Swift, big surprise! But the great thing is, TS production on vinyl is beautiful, but art and sound, and my daughter realizes this. She’s learned the value of owning the music, instead of renting it, and, she actually sits down, in a room and listens to the whole record. It’s so great to see this, it warms my heart.
That's great to hear!
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Hello very cool excellent Documentary 👌
Thank you!
Man, you just brought back a lot of memories. I remember standing out in front of WOOLWORTH"S for the Abbey Road album , cost me $4.98 !
Good times!
$5 way back then.. wow, this means, allowing for inflation, that vinyl today is not overpriced, except for certain labels.
Idn where your Woolworths was located but ha, you got ripped off my friend. I remember it being 2.59 at mine. Lots of first pressings for 1.99 in the late sixties to 5.99 by the end of the 70s. I remember buying the beatles 45 of I want to hold your hand for 1.19 at the western auto. Ha, a rip for just 2 songs..
Great video!, just love this resurgence, from a dedicated vinyl lover who makes turntables!
I grew up in the 60s when albums were $3.99 in L,.A, And that was during the British Invasion. Havent bought an album in decades, as I play my great collection, featuring iconic Canadian bands like the Guess Who.
Old school....the best school.
We remember when the industry was transitioning to CD, the CD Player, etc. That was an EXPENSIVE process! CD’s were more expensive, then you had to replace your vinyl copy with the CD, then you had to buy a whole new system to play them. Now vinyl is back and doing the same thing again. However, very glad vinyl is back and for the most part, are better quality-just stupid expensive!🎧
That was a costly time for sure!
I wouldn’t agree with better quality on all. Not sure what type of music you are into, when I place a Motown label record from the mid 1960’s vs one recently pressed, absolutely no comparison. The older album has heavier base, percussion and mastered from first generation tapes vs a later one pressed.
In 1988 all I had to do was buy a cd player and plug it into me existing stereo. Not big money. It sat there next to my turntable and cassette deck. Still have all 3 formats in 2023 plus a cd player that records cd's onto a USB stick. Have acouple Sony cassette walkmans and a portable Sony cd walkman. Still don't stream. I have so many lp's cd's 45's maxi-singles and stuff I recorded to cassettes I doubt I'll ever stream. Plus all the movies and concert dvd's I've collected my plate is full!! 🎸🎸🎸
The documentary Re-Vinylized here on YT was made about a decade ago and the very same reasons people love records is mentioned.
All very true.
Wow what a nice film here. You had me with Allen Cross and Tom C.. AC what a voice!
My Technics SL1200 is back to life again ✌🏽
Great list. The Spy Who Loved Me is definitely one of the best band films. Ski scenes, pyramid scenes (the Egypt scene are amazing) submarines. It’s all there plus an underwater Lotus 😂
I really dig the Sheepdogs, really enjoyed the video of them playing ball against the kids to the tune The Way It Is.
excelente documental del mejor formato de audio indiscutiblemente el vinil
I am so glad that there is so much interest in vinyl these days. I like to record my vinyl into my computer so I can enjoy the next best thing to dropping the needle when I'm doing other things.
Oh man I love vinyls, I was born in late 70’s. I went back to vinyls when I move to USA in 2010…
Great documentary! Nothing better than vinyl!
Thank you!
I have a small indie music studio in AZ. I record almost 100% analog, (unfortunately into digital but I tend to record as if I’m recording tape.) I have a guitar studio full of tube amps, a huge vinyl collection and I open my computer about once every two months. I’m an 80’s kid, I’m tech savvy, I just have an old soul.
I can't listen to my vinyls right now because I don't have a turntable and even if I had a full setup, I live with people who don't like my taste in music. I have to listen to all my music on spotify either with headphones or in the car, but I'm still picking up new albums that I think are good enough to own and one day I shall listen to them properly.
Kids are really missing out on the experience of an album. Folding out a 3 way album coverto it's full 36 inch glory to read all the liner notes, the inner cover artwork etc.
As someone that grew up with CDs I think much of what was said here can apply to them as well. I have vinyl and CD but I prefer CD for the most part, even though I dumped way more money into my turntable and records. I appreciate the love and passion for vinyl, but I hate when the arguments for vinyl circle around this idea of digital being less involving or worse sounding. That simply is not true.
Exactly! They over-romanticize it waaaaay too much.
And the best joke is new music on vinyl......most of the time it's digitally recorded and then put on analog vinyl 🤣🤣🤣.....priceless comedy. And they'll tell you it sounds 'warmer' too. And most people, kids, buying vinyl play it on crappy sets too at home....oh it sounds so 'warm'.....gimme a break.
Only positive....they buy music instead of pirating or dumb streaming....and listen to whole albums instead of just the played to death hits.
@@PainInTheS There were also millions of albums on CD that were AAD or ADD (originally recorded on analog, so..) and the CD world suffered from very poor mastering, clipping, etc and garbage dynamics. Now adays you can also have DDAs or ADAs on LP (and the mastering is done for LP), it's different, and it can sound amazing, because it all comes down to the mastering for a specific format. I personally prefer each era with it's format--(I get analog recorded era LPs for the most part, and CDs for the digital recorded era ) however, in the end it all depends on the label, mastering, engineering, and so forth. There's great quality to be found in every format, it all depends on case by case. What is true however, is that many labels don't have that quality and just cut an LP from a poorly mastered source or even use the same source of CDs and charge 30-40 bucks...and having mediocre systems/turntables.....and that's a different story
I too have vinyl and digital and my observations are that there is a lot more variability in vinyl sound quality, different pressing plants, recording companies, differences between first pressings and later pressings, countries of manufacture, etc, etc. I have multiple copies of the same records (approximately 50% of my collection contains at least two or more of the same LP's, up to 10 copies of cheaply obtained LP's) so I am very aware of the problem. Some records will be different in volume from one side to the other, some would sound more dynamic but surface noise would be excessive and some would even sound faster than others, but when you get a good one there is a very special something that CD's cannot reproduce and I have spent evenings listening to very expensive systems, some costing over half a million dollars that could not reproduce on CD what I heard on vinyl. When you hear it you will know immediately and it will be a revelation. I would also suggest ultrasonic cleaning, even for brand new records because pressing plants use a release agent to stop the record sticking to the stamper and your results will suffer as long as your stylus is scraping that muck out of the grooves and having it collect onto the cantilever. Also, correct turntable set up can make a huge difference but CD's don't have this requirement so good results are much, much easier to achieve and probably why some people claim CD's sound better.
@@sportsfanivosevic9885 So you need a more than half a million setup to hear the beauty of vinyl?
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Cd's.....I'll just enjoy these vinyl people saying they hear things that aren't there....besides the pops, crackles and stuff. 😄
@@PainInTheS Have you been drinking? I think you misread my post.
PS If you associate pops and crackles with vinyl, it's old vinyl that has'nt been maintained. You should give new vinyl a spin but try not to spill your drink on it.
I always said vinyl never went away it just hibernated for a bit while the music industry sorted itself out. The inherent value of it also far surpasses digital, well maintained and sought after vinyl can command decent money for those who choose to engage in that market. Inconvenient for some but an investment for others.
What is old is new again. When I was a young adult, some fashions from the 1950's Crenoline skirts, and the early 1960's skinny ties were popular in the 1980's. Even older groups from the 1960's ie The Rolling Stones, the Kinks, and the records of pasted musicians ie the Doors with Jim Morrison, Janice Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, were still selling.
The hubby and I would go to Los Angeles and check out Amoeba records. I could spend hours in tht place.
It is an experiece checking out the art work on the record sleeves and to read the lyrics and sometimes the records came with a poster folded up. The crackling of the record before that first song started to play. The vinyl record cleaner you used to keep it clean. Good times
Amazing documentary
Thank you!
All these record documentaries and NOBODY puts the needle down properly! There is a LEVER!!! A guy in here says all vinyl from 74' on sounded terrible! WTF HA HA
Maybe it's still a habit, but I never use that lever. I find it doesn't drop in the right spot. Probably user error - lol.
@@lot48films HA HA
I don’t remember any vinyl records I purchased after 1974 sounding terrible, they sounded GREAT!!!! He states you heard pops, clicks, what the hell, if that was the case you would return it and exchange it, and again if that ever happened.
I always use my cueing lever!! My technics drops it straight down!!
@@georgemusic4all4seasons The quality of the vinyl being used by 1980 took a dive. Makes sense because CD’s were being pushed as the main format and vinyl was a afterthought. Unless you bought “audiophile” pressings. Then when vinyl started to make a comeback round 15 years ago, the quality needed to return
The Album was and experience
Even if it was old a scratched up and you hear the pops the analog can't be reproduced to digital as well
You could also physically see it turning it was a personal thing
Putting you favorite record on and laying back on the couch or bed and enjoy❤
Agreed!
Didn't have a record player as a child because my parents didn't have the money. I had seen a record player at an aunts house tho and was curious about it at the time but now as an adult I have a plan for a system and records too.
Okay, seriously, the "comeback" is at its zenith now.
But everywhere you look, people are stating the obvious - that CDs are NOT going to go away, that they are putting up a far stronger fight then you're being led to believe. Check this out here on TH-cam.
I never got rid of my vinyl back in the 80s and 90s because I had too much music which was irreplaceable - now I'm in the same situation with CDs. Sorry, but I have too much great music that ISN'T available on vinyl!
But we've wandered into silly territory now. For many vinyl is little more than a fashion statement: "Oooh I'm so cool, I have some LPS!" As my 8 year old daughter would say "That's silly".
MEANWHILE Vol 1 - you don't have to do very much googling to find out that thousands upon thousands of 2023 vinyl buyers are leaving feedback grumbling about noisy pressings, clicks, pops - yup, warped discs, dished discs etc etc. Oh dear - and bent up sleeves! This is pitiful - for god's sake you're paying FAR too much for the privilege of this stressful hassle. I know people will suffer to be in fashion - but perhaps you need to get a bit of a grip? Vinyl can sound fantastic if you get a quality pressing but that's not so easy is it?
MEANWHILE Vol 2 - Yup some CDs sound harsh. This is because from about 1998 inwards, the industry f*****d millions of discs by over EQ'ing aka "Loudness Wars". But, but, but.... with so many CDs available for pennies now, it doesn't take very long to suss which CDs sound great and which to avoid.
Oh... and you'd be surprised how much more sophisticated CD players are now - they've come a long way and some are absolutely magical. Buy a great CD player, buy your music for pennies - sounds good to me!
Vinyl Records are digital too. Compact disc is just a Compact record. Love them both, Love having a choice.
VINYL NEVER WENT ANYWHERE TO ME. I'VE BEEN DOWN WITH IT SINCE BEING A KID, WE USED TO GET THE LATEST RELEASES BACK THEN FOR OLD SCHOOL RAP MUSIC. THEN AS I GOT OLDER AND SEEING THE HIP HOP DJ CATCHING WRECK ON THE ONES AND TWO'S GRANDMASTER FLASH AND SO ON. I GOT THE IDEA THAT I WANTED TO DO THIS THING CALLED "SCRATCHING". THE NINETIES CAME AROUND AND STARTED TO TAKE NOTICE TO UNDERGROUND HIP HOP GROUPS INCORPORATE THE "DJ" INTO THE MIX(NO PUN INTENDED) AND THE SAMPLING OF MUSIC TO MAKE BEATS. THIS BECAME THE REAL INTRODUCTION TO WANTING TO COLLECT VINYL. NOW I'M TRULY IN LOVE....A LOVE SUPREME....LIKE COLTRANE.
Glad you stuck with it. I bailed when CD's came out. You are definitely in the minority - but probably better off for it.
Bring back Tower Records! There still over 80 stores in Japan that spun off from the original in Hollywood. Elton John loved the place.
Thank you, did not know any Tower still exist - was a huge part of L.A. scene! 🌞
Great doc! Very fun to watch!
Thank you!
78 now vinyl only front end source 700 record befor 66 . Heavy vinyl .Jazz
A sweet program here, but kinda flat and dull, showing Crosley record players (record destroyers), and folks keep talking about warmer sound I think nearly completely misses the point. And about how many records are made from digital files is also an insult that they are not going into there. There needs to be more discussion on higher quality playback, right player, cartridges, analog cuts or vinyl, and handling of these expensive platters.
my first album, "kimono my house" sparks
I find the CDs very aggressive ever since I started listening to vinyl. I grew up in the 80's, so it's a great nostalgia to me. Vocals do have a great tonal quality on vinyl, the only thing CDs outshine vinyl is the loudness and the absolute silence ( there is no silence in real life, so I'm not sure if it's a quality)
Alternate take: Vinyl takes up space, pollutes the environment when producing in large quantities. It's just another form of consumerism. It should be about the music, not the format. Who knows? I'm 19, I've never heard of any of the bands mentioned in this documentary. I like my music fast and disposable. I've never even seen a CD in real life and would die without Spotify. I guess what I'm saying is I rock, you don't.
Don't hate on the history man...if you weren't there, I understand why you don't get it. If we were to rephrase the wording in the film, the main point would likely be that the idea of "disposable" music is what the vinyl comeback is in response to. more so than "digital" music.
Enjoyed the documentary. Well done
I have over 300 vinyl albums. But what suprised me the most is people give them to me for free and the albums haven't been played
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I typically listen to the whole record with vinyl. It’s too easy to skip to the next with streaming.
The 180 gram thing is more or less a sales gimmick. It's possible that a heavy record may help to dampen vibration while on the platter (I've never noticed that), but the thickness of a record has nothing to with sound quality since all grooves are cut at the same depth (it is the width of the groove that makes a difference in sound). The only real advantage to heavier records is that they may be more resistant to warpage or breakage
I love music and for ME it was about the suspension of disbelief. I had a good tuntable and amp and speakers, but the first time I played a CD without all that wow crackle and noise a light went on. I was not listening to a recording, but to music.....sorry folks but that's my story.
I have been buying and selling vinyl records since 1984. If I were to guess how many records I have sold. It would be close to one hundred thousand! Also My Grandmother worked at Quality Records ! I have always loved vinyl records! The only thing I do not like is the price of a new vinyl Record?? Thanks for sharing Your passion and adventures 😀👍❤️🇨🇦🌎❤️🔊🎶🎶🎶🎶🎉👏👏🎉🎉💯💯💯
Great documentary. It would be much better and more pleasureable to watch if the audio levels were as equal as possible. Some parts are extremly quiet and some especially when the music comes in is very loud. I was constantly turing the volume up and down.
I started buying vinyl in the mid 90's when albums in good condition where on average $3 each, yes they really common albums. Hard to find albums, most of them I have never come across. I don't like brand new albums, as it takes away the fun of finding an original, or an old reissue, that is still vintage. I've own over 2,000 albums at one point, not including singles.
The best. Always have been from 70s
I heard a lot of music until I first listened to music on vinyl
Nice Doc - just wish you had of made the different audio sections all the same volume. Some of it is SO low and others are so loud.
Being an ex-semi pro drummer who taught drumming, local session musician I was astounded at my collection that I’ve had for over fifty years. This led me to Renaissance, especially Annie Haslam and of course super group Asia. Now in retirement it’s time to catch up and I do hope that both artists mentioned release vinyl to replace original CDs that are imo only meant for the car.
I still prefer the crisp clean sound of CDs, and I’m a guy with a vinyl library - maybe that’s the difference between Gen X and Boomers
It's all good basically 🥰
For me the best part about vinyl is that it isn't brick walled like CD's and digital files are.
That has NOTHING to do with the medium, and EVERYTHING to do with the Mastering of the audio that ends up in the medium. Make a master from the original master tapes/files and put it on an LP, then take the same tape/file and do an equivalent master for CD/Digital, same levels/dynamics, and discounting the gear you use to listen to in on, there is NO functional difference. What spoiled everything was the "Loudness Wars", NOT the fact that it's analog or digital. And not ALL CD's or Digital files are normalized and brick walled to death...
@@conan5885 it's my understanding if you mix a vinyl record too loud it skips? I know not all digital/CD releases are brickwalled, but so many of them are, while their vinyl counterparts aren't (or aren't as bad).
@@scee1871 Apart from new releases, if an album is old enough to have an original vinyl release as well as a CD equivalent, chances are those albums first CD editions aren't brick walled or normalized at all, and be at normal levels and dynamics, maybe a bit louder than the LP equivalent, but that's all. For reference, i lately was trying to make an ABBA best of, and all original CD album releases from the mid 80's/early 90's sound pretty good mastered at decent levels. The releases from their 2008 BLACK BOX are brick walled and normalized to death, a complete abomination that makes my ears sore after listening to it on headphones after 10 min.
If you want you can check out the ridiculous difference on the sound wave for the same song on both versions here: i.imgur.com/5XHPQqC.jpg
It doesn't matter! It's what you are listening to, not how you are listening to it that matters. I just like good music, I don't care if it's on a CD or a record.
Cassette and mixed tape for me.
Allan Cross kind of says it without saying it here: vinyl is a status symbol. Like, "I'm a real fan - I treasure this, I care for it and I spent a tremendous amount of money on it."
The only way that can be translated without sounding incredibly pretentious or snobbish is "I'm a real fan *of the vinyl medium* " and not "I'm a real fan *of music* ". Because it has nothing to do with loving music more or less, it has do do with loving a specific music storage medium and having *deep pockets* to afford to support that activity/hobby.
@@conan5885 That's true, but let's be honest -- there's a fair bit of pretense involved too.
I don't hate records, I grew up with them, I was fortunate enough to have a "proper" turntable/magnetic cartridge since the age of 8 (while most kids had shitty record players with ghastly ceramic cartridges), and I still have a few of my old records. I vividly remember how awesome The Human League DARE sounded through my Sennheiser headphones back in '81. I have a high-quality turntable now - bought several years ago when Technics decided to cease production of the SL-1200, mostly use it professionally, for digitizing clients' records. Turntables look cool - well, some do, some don't! However, nothing is more infuriating than hearing people say it sounds better than digital. It doesn't. It has its charms, sure, but it's categorically and measurably inferior to digital. FACT! The number of times that the dreaded Crosley and its shite ceramic cartridge makes an appearance in this video is somewhat distressing, too! Dear God...no!! Send that thing back to the sweatshops of China, where it belongs.
I guess sounds "Better" is pretty subjective. Sounds warmer or clearer may be more in line with what was meant. I love listening to records and hearing new details that I never heard in the digital version. Van Morrison's Into the Mystic is a good example for me. There seems to be so much more depth to the record than the digital version. You may not like Crosley and tgheir lack of quality but it's hard to argue that they have done as much as anyone for the resurgence of vinyl in the past decade or so.
@@lot48films Well, there are perhaps individual instances where the vinyl version of a song sounds subjectively "better", but that's in spite of it being vinyl, not because of it being vinyl. Had that very same vinyl master tape been copied to CD, you'd still be hearing whatever it was you heard on the record (minus all the clicks, pops, surface noise etc.) Vinyl is SO variable - no two records sound exactly the same, records from different pressing plants sound different, phono cartridges vary enormously, stylus wear affects sound, etc etc. For me, that's not good enough. I remember very well buying new LPs in the 80s, and HOPING they sounded good. Many didn't! Never had that issue with CDs. Even with CDs and the "loudness war", the quality is still there, even if dynamic range is reduced.
As for Crosley - well, they've made some efforts to "do better", but the basic mechanism and ceramic cartridge used in their most popular record players is a crime against audio. There is no excuse to be using ceramic cartridges in 2023. I just don't see the point in making something that sounds so bad, when for 20% more cost you could make it sound "ok". An inexpensive magnetic cartridge and better quality speakers could have made the "Crosley Cruiser" a far less "miserable" product. Anyway....
It IS NOT “MAKING A COMEBACK”… It NEVER WENT AWAY! Not even bothering to watch this .
Is the bottleneck actually in pressing? Maybe my brother and I should start a pressing company here in Texas.
first album I ever bought was Elton Johns greatest hits , his first greatest hits
I’m so sick of people talking about “warmth” when describing advantages of vinyl. There’s things like a bigger soundstage and more ambiance as well. The better the turntable and phono preamp, the more you hear these things
I guess it's just an easy term for non-audiophiles to understand why many people prefer the sound of vinyl as opposed to digital or streaming.
Not sure how you think that's even possible, when vinyl has such limited separation (around 30dB) and digital channel separation is essentially infinite. 🤷♂️
cool documentary! however i bet that intro music was not played off vinyl....oh the irony
True story...needed a digital file for our editing program.
Vinyl never changed with me only CD's for the car