Just an fyi, if tested the Supersonic today with the TKPs. I didn’t love it. Mostly I don’t like pushing the axles so far away for a board that wasn’t designed for it. I will need to do more testing with angles but +5 front and flat back didn’t do it for me, and if I’m guessing, it wasn’t the angles that I was struggling with. I just think the trucks don’t have quite enough rake to compete with a Bennett here. They were great for medium speed, lacked high speed range, and didn’t do low speed very well either. They did feel really great for pushing and it was nice having them loose and lively!
PS: do you know where I can buy just on Stylus? Seems everyone only sells them by the pair. I was thinking of using a Paris V3 150mm 50dg front and a Paris Street or the Stylus TKP rear with the Loaded Zee brackets and DIY/cut-down deck. Do you think this might work for decent pumping? I prefer S-turn pumping for the fun and workout versus "LDP wiggling" for distance. Thanks!
@@PantheonLongboards Rio Brazil, which is also related as they have *absurd* import taxes of 60% or more here! Prices are usually 2X the normal price here. I bought the Zee brackets at "GS Longboards" here in Brazil and had a friend bring me a set of Karmas. ;-)
Thanks so much to both of you for having and posting this conversation! These are super fascinating trucks. Definitely needing to try them on a cruiser.
*Truck video* 🤩🤩 🤙🏽🤟🏽🤙🏽 Pantheon make amazin stuff, Jeff has a passion for design and is very particular about quality, etc. We need more people like him runnin skate companies!
Informative. I have an old Ember in storage that I may re-deploy with these trucks. I never liked the Paris trucks because of the slop in the pivot (which Jeff says is addressed in the Stylus).
The first time I watched this is missed this part that's very interesting to my building a Zee Bracket board... "I'd like to try wedge/dewedge them...I've been told they're (really good) but you need to soften up the front and stiffen up the back... we'll have to figure out a solution for that." wish I could find people's comments on this, what they did/used and results.
I also would like to know this about the Stylus with the Loaded Zee brackets. I'm thinking of experimenting with using a TKP truck for just the rear truck for LDP/pumping instead of a RKP... so perhaps the paris Street truck or the Pantheon Stylus.
@@PantheonLongboards FYI, per my other post. It's tough to build a good board on a budget here in Brazil. Very price sensitive market due to BIG import taxes and vendor markups. Personally I think DIY'ing a bracket board could be a good way to go with these cheap Loaded Zee's. Just need to experiment with trucks and what wedging is possible with the Zee's. Btw love the Karmas on my "Frankenboard" my first DIY pumping setup. Grip is pretty good on ocean front painted asphalt bike path once they broke in - the warm asphalt prob helps :)
@@skate-horizons thanks. Top mounted wont' work with the Zee brackets for the same reason as the Paris V3's? I bet one could just cut a tiny tip off the back corners at 45-degrees (or round them off using a grinder) so the holes would line up. I mean if you really needed to :)
Jeffrey, your doubt is like fuel to my fire! And speaking of fire, those Stylus trucks you crafted are straight-up magic on wheels. Let's see if they can help me blaze through those 300 miles in record time. Challenge accepted! 🔥🛹 #UltraSkateFeats #StylusTruckMagic
Moin wo kaufst du deine Ausrüstung ? Bin relativ neu im Longboard Bereich und habe nicht so lust für alles 1 Monat zu warten und Zoll zu bezahlen😅. PS: danke für die tollen Vids
Just an fyi, if tested the Supersonic today with the TKPs. I didn’t love it. Mostly I don’t like pushing the axles so far away for a board that wasn’t designed for it. I will need to do more testing with angles but +5 front and flat back didn’t do it for me, and if I’m guessing, it wasn’t the angles that I was struggling with. I just think the trucks don’t have quite enough rake to compete with a Bennett here. They were great for medium speed, lacked high speed range, and didn’t do low speed very well either. They did feel really great for pushing and it was nice having them loose and lively!
I was so curious about this! Thank you for testing out!
PS: do you know where I can buy just on Stylus? Seems everyone only sells them by the pair.
I was thinking of using a Paris V3 150mm 50dg front and a Paris Street or the Stylus TKP rear with the Loaded Zee brackets and DIY/cut-down deck. Do you think this might work for decent pumping? I prefer S-turn pumping for the fun and workout versus "LDP wiggling" for distance. Thanks!
@@bbaker6212 where are you located? We could figure something out. That's just not how I want to set up the website.
@@PantheonLongboards Rio Brazil, which is also related as they have *absurd* import taxes of 60% or more here! Prices are usually 2X the normal price here. I bought the Zee brackets at "GS Longboards" here in Brazil and had a friend bring me a set of Karmas. ;-)
@@bbaker6212glad you got some Karmas!!! Brazil is such a tough market for us to get products into because of those dang tariffs!
Got a Pranayama for Christmas as my first board. It’s a work of art and an amazing machine. Pantheon deserves to be in the top 3 of brands for sure.
@@jeffreybarker357 it's a great board! Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks so much to both of you for having and posting this conversation! These are super fascinating trucks. Definitely needing to try them on a cruiser.
You've been taking it to the next level with great content. Much appreciated!
Glad you enjoy it!
Greetings from Serbia and thanks to both of you for another great interview.
AWESOME segment! Can't wait to see how these trucks ride and looking forward to more from Pantheon! Great gear. 🤙
Usefull info and pleasant interview, thank you, guys🤘
Glad you enjoyed it!
*Truck video* 🤩🤩
🤙🏽🤟🏽🤙🏽
Pantheon make amazin stuff, Jeff has a passion for design and is very particular about quality, etc. We need more people like him runnin skate companies!
Informative. I have an old Ember in storage that I may re-deploy with these trucks. I never liked the Paris trucks because of the slop in the pivot (which Jeff says is addressed in the Stylus).
I love your content, please keep it up!
Thanks Man! I appreciate it !
Exciting news. I wonder if Pantheon will begin offering them as default on some of the models.
Cant wait to get my hands on these for a fantail and prana
The first time I watched this is missed this part that's very interesting to my building a Zee Bracket board...
"I'd like to try wedge/dewedge them...I've been told they're (really good) but you need to soften up the front and stiffen up the back... we'll have to figure out a solution for that."
wish I could find people's comments on this, what they did/used and results.
Does it work with the zeet bracket ?
I also would like to know this about the Stylus with the Loaded Zee brackets.
I'm thinking of experimenting with using a TKP truck for just the rear truck for LDP/pumping instead of a RKP... so perhaps the paris Street truck or the Pantheon Stylus.
looks like maybe it can fit/work with the Zee brackets?
Zee brackets and big wheels are a great option.
only drop mounted. Top mount wont work
@@PantheonLongboards FYI, per my other post. It's tough to build a good board on a budget here in Brazil. Very price sensitive market due to BIG import taxes and vendor markups. Personally I think DIY'ing a bracket board could be a good way to go with these cheap Loaded Zee's.
Just need to experiment with trucks and what wedging is possible with the Zee's.
Btw love the Karmas on my "Frankenboard" my first DIY pumping setup. Grip is pretty good on ocean front painted asphalt bike path once they broke in - the warm asphalt prob helps :)
@@skate-horizons thanks. Top mounted wont' work with the Zee brackets for the same reason as the Paris V3's? I bet one could just cut a tiny tip off the back corners at 45-degrees (or round them off using a grinder) so the holes would line up.
I mean if you really needed to :)
@@PantheonLongboards +1 hope so. I'm using your Karmas :)
What's the red plastic kick part called and where can you get it in germany? Thank you!
Cant get it, see my video on the Supersonic Kicktail, there is a link and explanation!
What is the pivot cup modeled after? Paris tkp or Indy?
It's a Paris RKP geometry. I took a common, easily sourced pivot and designed the truck around it.
@@PantheonLongboards good choice
Jeffrey, your doubt is like fuel to my fire! And speaking of fire, those Stylus trucks you crafted are straight-up magic on wheels. Let's see if they can help me blaze through those 300 miles in record time. Challenge accepted! 🔥🛹 #UltraSkateFeats #StylusTruckMagic
Did I promise too much?
@@skate-horizons Not at all!
Don’t let me stop you!!!
Moin wo kaufst du deine Ausrüstung ? Bin relativ neu im Longboard Bereich und habe nicht so lust für alles 1 Monat zu warten und Zoll zu bezahlen😅.
PS: danke für die tollen Vids
Gibt super Shops in De, Justpassinthru und Studio longboard sind super!
Sonst Sickboards!
@@skate-horizons Danke dir.
@@Maevekarov Gerne, schreib doch ma gerne, was es am Ende geworden ist ;)
anyone know who sells the Stylus individually versus a pair?
Sickboards does!
Awesome & Thanks :)
Welcome 😊
💙💙💙