Lawful Good - _In NASCAR, nice guys don't finish last, but they do finish second. A lot._ Neutral Good - _Not winning is a surprisingly good way to earn fans while winning a lot._ Chaotic Good - _Shining gold surrounded by the mundane, a diamond in the rough._ Lawful Neutral - _They'll race you fair, but they want to _*_win._* True Neutral -_How does one have so few pictures of them smiling, and looks awkward smiling?_ Chaotic Neutral - _Sometimes you'll win a race by sheer goddamn accident._ Lawful Evil - _They follow the rules but have some ethical issues to work out._ Neutral Evil - _Shit happens. Though finding themselves in shit more often than not._ Chaotic Evil - _Just as likely to race you clean as they are they'll race you dirty. Cause Chaos doesn't give a shit._
@NIGHTMARE WATCHER 24 You know...alignment tests often have people score at least one point in all 9 categories, as I imagine these drivers also would by their results, just happens to be whatever alignment dominates/fits a driver the most.
Seriously! I can't believe he made the playoffs. But have you noticed, that every ten years, there's an upset winner since 2000. 2001: Michael waltrip 2011: Trevor bayne 2021: Michael McDowell
@@knobdikker Honestly, alot of people completely ignore the amount of danger he put his fellow drivers in with his style of racing. His death really can be an example of living by the sword and dying by it.
@@harjon3583 Oh I know what you are saying! I lost all respect for him the day he wrecked Bill Elliott at the Winston all star race in 1987. Everyone thinks he was a god, when all he was, was a bully. Slapshoes pegged him. I call him the chaotic evil aysewhole!
Junior Johnson would build his car under the weight limit then fill his tires with sand for the weigh in. After a couple laps he would pit and change tires. Then he would have a car 300 pounds lighter.
You speak of Dale being so empathetic towards Davy and Aryton but the man was such great and close friends with Neil Bonnett that he never, ever, spoke about Neil’s death, ever, he could never muster up the strength to talk about losing his best friend.
@@connorbingel7134 It's fun to portray Dale as a villain, and we still enjoy doing that today, but peel back the intimidator image, and he's a good honest, poor, flawed man trying his best, who happens to be really good and driven at his craft
@@connorbingel7134 family man except when it came to his own family. Kerry Earnhardt had to track Dale down because Dale didn’t give a shit about him, and Jr has talked about multiple times how Sr was a deadbeat and only started caring about his son once he realized he could pedal a car. There’s also the whole taunting Mark Martin over his alcoholism thing
With all due respect to Jamie McMurray, I would argue for Kyle Petty being the classic Chaotic Good driver. He "only" won eight Cup races in a 30-year career -- but in most of those wins, he just flat-out smoked the competition. In his three Rockingham wins (all from the pole), Kyle led 433, 380, and 484 of the 492 laps. And at the 1987 Coca-Cola 600, he took control late and literally lapped the field. Kyle never finished higher than 5th in points, but on his best days, he was as good as there ever was.
All of that along with Kyle's combined seemingly independent personality as with the way he's always presented himself being so much of a radical departure from Richard. And I like all of the Pettys too, I'm just saying.
The thing is that Kyle Petty in his prime probably came closer to winning a championship than Jamie McMurray did. I didn't find Kyle to be very chaotic. He wasn't exactly squeaky clean like Mark Martin, but he was much more consistent than McMurray.
Paul Menard, the ultimate example of what is wrong with NASCAR. You can be a total no driving sumbitch, but have a rich daddy willing to plaster his name on the side of the car, you can have long career in the sport (DEI, RPM, RCR, WBR)
@Guss Ruffee he went from one extreme to another. 80s Mark Martin probably have won a championship but he also probably woulda burned out quickly with the way he was before he reformed and got with Roush. Roush Racing in NASCAR is his legacy and its a damned shame what the Fenway partnership did to them. Another reason to hate the Red Sox.
He really did seem like a great guy under the helmet and black visor, he just rarely showed it. But when he did show it, you could how great of a guy he was. He was just that way because he was chasing his destiny, and when you have 7 championships, why stop doing that.
Of all the drivers that drove for Jounior Johnson I can imagine it being Darrel being the one to tell you "How do you know he didn't?" with a shit-eating grin behind a pair of shades.
1992 Hooters 500 is THE quintessential NASCAR race. Half a dozen drivers in reach of the final prize. Jeff Gordon's first run. Richard Petty's swan song. And the ending -- won't spoil it! -- was the best thing ever, and extremely poignant, in retrospect.
Paul Menard, the ultimate example of what is wrong with NASCAR. You can be a total no driving sumbitch, but have a rich daddy willing to plaster his name on the side of the car, you can have long career in the sport (DEI, RPM, RCR, WBR)
NASCAR: “Alright guys, we need to make a comprehensive list of rules to make sure the racing is clean and fair.” Junior Johnson and Smokey Yunick: “That’s our cue!”
As a Earnhardt fan (Sr and Jr), I like the way Sr raced. he didn't stick his neck out for anyone who didn't deserved it, he never let anyone pass him go of easy, and he never backed down from a fight. R.I.P Dale Earnhardt 1951-2001
@@timpowell1429 I bet they are going to run each other off the course when they are contesting against each other for position given the fact Dale Sr and Newman were pair of hard, stubborn, competitive drivers. And then they would end up being called to meet Bill Jr / Brian France to ensure neither Dale Sr nor Newman, nor both, would end up crashing each other, just like Cole Trickle and Rowdy Burns from Days of Thunder.
Embracing the Darkness of the Intimidator here. Everything about him from how he drove to the paintjob on his car fit that Chaotic Evil role he got slotted in on the chart.
I'm honestly surprised Dale Earnhardt doesn't seem to have any variation of "The Black Knight" among his nicknames. It seems fitting to me, but I guess in NASCAR's core demographic that's not an image that comes to mind all too often?
@@christopherwall2121 There was Earnhardt merchandise that had that on it. He had a ton of nicknames: The Intimidator, The Man In Black, The Black Knight, Ironhead....
My dad was Mark's private pilot for years and I loved getting to see his racecars and gym in his old hangar here in Daytona. Love Mark and his son Matt, amazing people.
It’s nice but honestly feels mildly plagiaristic, i appreciate the content and the research, but stylistically it’s the same music, delivery etc.. over and over, its beyond inspiration to the point it almost undermines the video
Somehow, Lee Petty protesting his own son's first win strikes me as a real-life equivalent to Master Roshi entering the World Martial Arts Tournament to hand Goku and Krillin their first major losses. And look how both those turned out.
21:26 Small correction for the Logano-Kenseth 2015 move at Kansas. Logano didn't need a win, having already won the week prior. He still probably moved Kenseth in an attempt to stop one of the strongest cars that season locking itself into the next round. Obviously went horribly wrong in hindsight xD
I got a bachelor in journalism, and read a lot/see documentaries all the time. You, my man, are the best on documentaries, seriously. Interesting, great knowledge and next level analytic. YOU ARE THE BEST on youtube and hopefully you can make more of these vids. I have seen all I believe. Best regards from Europe!
2:20 Lawful good - “The Face” Mark Martin 5:53 Chaotic good - “The Wild” “The Excitement” Jimmy Spencer, Jaime McMurray 8:14 Chaotic evil - Dale Earnhardt “he doesn’t care, he does what he wants” 13:18 Lawful evil - “Skirt the rules” Junior Johnson 17:17 Neutral evil - “play fair, play hard” 19:51 Lawful neutral - “Hard Work pays off” “Will you do what it takes to win?” 22:56 True Neutral - “Loner” “Just Race” “No Personality” Paul Minard “Quiet” 24:50 Neutral Good - Matt Kinsith, “King” Richard Petty 27:57 Chaotic Neutral - “Lucky” “Fortune” “By Chance” Danny Hamlin 33:41 Busher Brothers
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about Ray Evernham or Chad Knaus for neutral evil. Their drivers (Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson) were mostly Neutral Good, but their crew chiefs pushed a LOT of rules to the edge (and at times got caught) and strategized to the nines to give their drivers an edge.
I don't know much about NASCAR, but I know Smokey Yunick and he seems to fit Lawful Evil to a T. He knew what the rules said, but knew EXACTLY what they didn't say. And happily worked around the rules that were said anyways.
Actually, Smokey Yunick drove in NASCAR, too. He was just best known for being a mechanic. IIRC, the infamous incident where Yunick got called out for having a too-large gas tank, then raced without a tank, yet didn't have to pit for fuel, he was driving that day. So yes, Yunick qualifies for the LE square minimum.
He totally wrong about the 1992 Hooters 500. Replay clearly shows Earnhardt never touched Bodine. He did take the air off the spoiler but the replay shows a few inches of clearance running into turn 1.
Earnhardt Sr i hold in the same regard as The Holy One (Aryton Senna) for a reason. Both would turn up to races with only one thing in mind. WINNING. Doesnt matter if you piss a quwbillion people off along the way. What matters is who is at the top of the finishing order when all said and done.
Breaks my heart while also soothes it with admiration when listening/watching Mark Martin. My favorite Nascar driver. Exemplary conviction of moral and lawful good/driving. Sadly the old adage is a partial truth. Nice guys don't just finish last, they finish 2nd.
You absolutely nailed the alignment chart! And you are dead on about Menard being a True Neutral. It even shows in his usual racing style and finishes. He always seems to run mid pack and occasionally even top ten, but there is never a fuss made over him. But when he runs his best he always seems to be taken out by someone elses mess though, getting caught up in wrecks with nowhere to go. He is definitely one of my top favorite drivers, and I pull for him every week. I look forward to seeing him in victory lane again
I am cackling. Finally watching this video after years, get to the lawful neutral section and you describing your take on the alignment, and literally moments after I say "Ryan Newman" out loud to your description you say the exact same thing 😂 Also related to Lawful Neutral. I nearly forgot since I watched this over two sessions, but I feel like Chase being a poster child of Lawful Neutral in this video aged like milk
I absolutely DO NOT even have the words nor vocabulary to express just how good this video is. Truly, the 1st 2min intro is Emmy Award Winning caliber type dialogue writing! WoW! Is all I can say 👍
NASCAR is not high-falurin' like IndyCar or F1, but it has its own rich history of colorful characters and spectacular shenanigans... which is exactly why I love it so much!
Being originally from Maine, my family were huge Ricky Craven fans. You never knew when he would be slow or fast. That Darlington win is my favorite ever. I lost my mind in the living room watching it.
My favor driver is/ was Davey Allison. I was just a kid when he died but he was (atleast in my eyes) the hero of Nascar. Every bit as good and aggressive as Earnhardt only not so dirty. He was so exciting to watch when him and Earnhardt would be door to door. Still get a smile seeing these old clips. Thank you.
Ah, Jamie Mac. Say what you want, I was always a fan. And man did he ever have some spectacular moments. That "drift" save at Vegas? An absolute thing of beauty...
If he keeps this up he will break 100k by this time next year. With his unmatched knowledge of the sport, the ability to break it down even for the casual viewers yet at the same time not dumbing any of it down all with a side of solid humor, he'll not only dominate the NASCAR youtube game but he's got the ingredients to go even further on here
Love the video and really like the channel. I was a little surprised you put Rusty Wallace in the Chaotic evil though. I would've put him in chaotic neutral. He would only get back at a driver if they had done something to him in a race, he didn't bother you unless you bothered him.
This was absolutely wonderful. Your love for the sport and its participants shone through. The best piece of video I've ever seen on NASCAR. They need you doing this for them!
Out of the 10s of 1000s of YT videos I've ever watched, this ranks up in the top 5 for quality all around, from graphic to content to narration, through and through, regardless of content. Great work!
My uncle races sprint cars, and honestly I put him under chaotic good 🤣 we dont always go and win but like you said "when they were good, they were damn good." #28
Because of my having discovered and binged your channel, the ad at the top of my TH-cam home page is now "Best Cars For Seniors 2020." You know what? Worth it.
Started watching Nascar at the age of 3 and still watch it today and was an Earnhardt fan from when I was old enough to understand Nascar all tue way to 2001 when he sadly passed
Great video, you nailed most of it. I totally knew Martin and Earnhardt before you brought them up. Probably would’ve gone with Jimmie Johnson as neutral good, but I think you’re right about Petty.
Big E was always the BEST Evil, on the track, but I loved him just as much for being a sweet guy out of his car. Truly a beast in competition, but the best in being a super cool dude in regular life.
"One axis determines whether or not you follow the spirit of the law, and the other axis determines whether you follow the letter of the law" How did you just distill a massively contentious DnD debate into a single sentence. People will argue for pages and pages about what the alignment chart means and you just nailed it with one line.
Bro, I've been a Nascar fan for just over 25 years. This guy knows more about Nascar then my 55 year old step-dad thats watched his whole life. Great video man!
I love the photo at 10:10 of Rusty and Dale Sr. For context, they’re doing a Polish victory lap at the end of the 1993 Hooters 500 in honor of Davey Allison and Alan Kulwicki, both of whom had died earlier in the year in separate aircraft crashes. Rusty was flying a flag with Allison’s #28, and Dale was flying Kulwicki’s #7.
@@nicholasshark1422 me too but I think he just likes to race people no matter what he's in and no matter what place he comes in, proven at Chicagoland, but that's part of the problem is he doesn't mind coming in 2nd as long as he had fun. Something kyle Larson and Busch needs to balance. Stewart would just dump a guy
I don't know a damned thing about NASCAR or racing in general. I've never been interested by it. TH-cam's algorithm clearly knew something I didn't, as it recommended this video and I thought why not. And for 36 minutes I was thoroughly entertained as well as educated about something, under normal circumstances, I would have passed on by. Great video, great production quality, great narration. You get a well-earned subscribe from me (whatever that may or may not mean to you). Thanks for this!
Whew - My personal disclaimer: I rarely heap praise on TH-camrs, because frankly, I think there's far too many people that praise the TH-camrs and don't comment on the actual content. But - You've got some serious writing and speaking chops my man. I think you were raised well; just my hopeful theory anyway. FWIW, and to ensure I'm not being ironic (😂), your choice of Mark Martin as your favorite driver speaks volumes. To this day, Mark will personally reply to you via Twitter or whatever platform you're both on.
0:56 - 1:18 not only have I never thought of that but this purely one of, if not the best, commentary shorts ever, i could repeat it all day if i could.
I take for granted what a lovingly bizarre set of coincidences the Busecher brothers' stories are, being my hometown drivers by only 50-odd miles and having such odd circumstances befall their way in that quintessentially Chaotic Neutral fashion, and thanks for bringing to my attention how unlikely that is to happen again, as well as some of the details specifically how you pointed them out that I didn't put together or even know until this.
I'm really glad you mentioned the driver swap rule, I had an interesting thought last year regarding this rule, let's say Jones by some miracle makes the final 4 and Kyle Busch doesn't. Kyle Busch is a ton better than Jones in literally every way, so Kyle Busch drops out of the race, and lo and behold, Kyle Busch takes over the #20 for Jones, dominates Homestead and wins Erik the Championship. If this were to occur based on the rules, Erik Jones is your Champion, correct? Now the publicity behind this would be terrible, the title would be viewed as an absolute sham and it would destroy the view of NASCAR's playoffs, and NASCAR would likely call a foul, but the thought alone is interesting enough to ponder.
This could still have happened under the older formats as well. Say if Davey Allison got injured before the final race in Atlanta and starts but then swaps out with Rusty Wallace. Rusty flies off into the sunset, dodges Ernie Irvan’s wreck and boom: Davey Allison the 1992 champ.
MAN O MAN That Mark Martin bit at the beginning tore at my heart strings. He is my favorite driver of all time too, it's nice to find someone else who has the same admiration for him. Also I just stumbled upon your channel this past weekend and man I'm hooked. Started watching from your first video and I'm gong in order. Keep up the great work 👊
4:31 BAH GAWD THAT'S JON BOIS'S MUSIC Also, I'd like to point out that, in the picture of Mark Martin you use in the chart, it looks like he's sponsored by Bosch Spark Hugs, and that seems pretty on brand.
I used to hate NASCAR... I was finding it boring, and the cars ugly... but man, since you do videos, I'm addicted to stock car racing! It's because of you man, your videos are awesome, you truly know and love your subject! Keep up the good work please
As a fan of open-wheel series with right-hand turns, watching Black Flags Matter's Patrick vid taught me three things: 1: turning left can be hard, the banking doesn't always have the optimal angle to retain traction, especially on exits. 2: dirty air is an issue just like in F1. 3: Danica's reactions reach Romain Grosjean levels of self-righteous indignation despite not actually knowing correctly what happened.
I've been a Jimmie Johnson fan ever since I watched the 2005 Coke 600, when he passed Bobby LaBonte clean and high in turn 4 on the last lap, and Bobby never contended again. I sat in Turn 4 in Las Vegas the next year, and watched him do this (again), this time to Matt Kenseth. He did this numerous times to win, when he didn't flat out outrun the field. Watching him run two absolutely perfect laps at Homestead 2016, with Kyle Larson on the outside was the longest I've ever held my breath ever. I was so overcome with emotion, it took me 2 minutes before I could finally breath normal and say a word, as the tears of joy ran down my face. Not forgetting of course the Indy tire debacle where they had mandatory pitstops every 10 laps, due to tires being shredded faster than a drift competition. Jimmie ran 10 perfect qualifying laps, to win the race, with Mark Martin two feet off his rear bumper the entire time. Many forget that race, but rarely do you see a cup driver dismantle the field with that level of F1 precision, while riding on potential grenades. Lastly, the Superman victory at Fontana after a late race caution also exemplified this. I also watched him get win #48 at Fontana, holding off Harvick.
Woah! DUde! This is a great testament to your ability to put a video together. Whilst I have a passing interest in motorsport and know some of the older names in your video, I'm no NASCAR petrol head. Yet, I found the whole thing thoroughly entertaining. Great job!
you have no idea the amount of history that you are keeping alive with these videos dude. ive never given a crap about nascar, but find these and a couple other creator's videos about nascar fascinating. nothing screams the golden age of america than Nascar 70s-90s
My grandpa is an absolute DIEHARD Earnhardt fan. Like I’m talking has a room dedicated for all the nascar stuff and a corner dedicated to Earnhardt. When I showed him the embodiment of chaotic evil he said “Yup that sounds about right.” 😂
man, I never knew much about NASCAR but I've been wanting to open my mind to it this past year (and I'm living in TN) and your channel is just great. Really informative!
Lawful Good - _In NASCAR, nice guys don't finish last, but they do finish second. A lot._
Neutral Good - _Not winning is a surprisingly good way to earn fans while winning a lot._
Chaotic Good - _Shining gold surrounded by the mundane, a diamond in the rough._
Lawful Neutral - _They'll race you fair, but they want to _*_win._*
True Neutral -_How does one have so few pictures of them smiling, and looks awkward smiling?_
Chaotic Neutral - _Sometimes you'll win a race by sheer goddamn accident._
Lawful Evil - _They follow the rules but have some ethical issues to work out._
Neutral Evil - _Shit happens. Though finding themselves in shit more often than not._
Chaotic Evil - _Just as likely to race you clean as they are they'll race you dirty. Cause Chaos doesn't give a shit._
Idk how but in a lot of nascar games I’m the perfect combination of all of those for some crazy ahh reason
@NIGHTMARE WATCHER 24 You know...alignment tests often have people score at least one point in all 9 categories, as I imagine these drivers also would by their results, just happens to be whatever alignment dominates/fits a driver the most.
@@TexasNightmare24Where’s the “causes mayhem, unintentional, feels bad about it only so far as it affects him”
I knew Davey Allison was a True Neutral and Dale Earnhardt was a Chaotic Evil
ty reddick is literally the lawful good now
Fun fact: When Paul Menard was asked if he ever smiles, he simply said, "Only when you catch me at a weak moment."
Keith Miller Jr oooof
absolute chad
He is mythically powerful, truly one to be feared.
What a G
Guess I should have been a Paul Menard fan. I live by the same exact saying.
S1ap: Let's talk about Chaotic Neutral
2021 - Michael McDowell: Yes.
Seriously! I can't believe he made the playoffs. But have you noticed, that every ten years, there's an upset winner since 2000. 2001: Michael waltrip
2011: Trevor bayne
2021: Michael McDowell
@@Nashvillecoug who won in 1991?
@@thatcarguydom266 Ernie irvan
That's exactly what i said after watching this, not to mention he has had many good runs especially at superspeedways.
@@Nashvillecoug Waltrip had Dale Earnhardt sr on his side, he has a legend
"Well, not giving a shit helps."
Real life advice from S1apSh0es
Dat Phat Ripper he's not wrong tho xD
Paul Menard: "If I die, tell my wife I said "hello"
😆😂🤣
Save big money at menards
He's pretty nice, the dude doesn't have to do anything he's the heir to the Menard store fortune.
@@jordandavis6635 yea he wasn’t good because he had a family buisness, kinda like Brian Scott if I’m right his family had a lot of beach houses?
Those’re precisely the words that I’d use to describe Paul Menard’s vibe.
"How does a man win with so many enemies? Well, not giving a shit helps." Gave me a chuckle.
I absolutely loved the entire section where it talked about Dale not giving a shit. Effing hilarious to me
NASCAR let him get away with waaaayyyy too much sheyet. But that's because NASCARs lips 👄 were firmly planted on GMs ass!
@@racer3175 but true and one of the reasons why I didn't shed a tear on that fateful day at Daytona! Good riddance!
@@knobdikker Honestly, alot of people completely ignore the amount of danger he put his fellow drivers in with his style of racing. His death really can be an example of living by the sword and dying by it.
@@harjon3583 Oh I know what you are saying! I lost all respect for him the day he wrecked Bill Elliott at the Winston all star race in 1987.
Everyone thinks he was a god, when all he was, was a bully. Slapshoes pegged him. I call him the chaotic evil aysewhole!
"Junior Johnson wrote half the rules in the NASCAR rulebook"
[Smokey Yunick has entered the chat]
Smokey wrote the other half
Yeah, that had to have been a close call for the poster-child on that one.
My cats name is smokey
Lol
Junior Johnson wrote half the rules, Smokey wrote the other half, and the Man in Black pretended the rules didn't exist.
Junior Johnson would build his car under the weight limit then fill his tires with sand for the weigh in.
After a couple laps he would pit and change tires.
Then he would have a car 300 pounds lighter.
jchiliw good god
My word.....
This dude was like you see that rule you see it, do u know how much gray area there is
That's pretty clever!
That is brilliant.
You speak of Dale being so empathetic towards Davy and Aryton but the man was such great and close friends with Neil Bonnett that he never, ever, spoke about Neil’s death, ever, he could never muster up the strength to talk about losing his best friend.
Neil was practically family to Dale
He dedicated his 7th championship to him
Dale really gets a bad reputation but looking back from the present he was a family man who really cared about every single one of the drivers.
@@connorbingel7134 It's fun to portray Dale as a villain, and we still enjoy doing that today, but peel back the intimidator image, and he's a good honest, poor, flawed man trying his best, who happens to be really good and driven at his craft
@@connorbingel7134 family man except when it came to his own family. Kerry Earnhardt had to track Dale down because Dale didn’t give a shit about him, and Jr has talked about multiple times how Sr was a deadbeat and only started caring about his son once he realized he could pedal a car. There’s also the whole taunting Mark Martin over his alcoholism thing
With all due respect to Jamie McMurray, I would argue for Kyle Petty being the classic Chaotic Good driver. He "only" won eight Cup races in a 30-year career -- but in most of those wins, he just flat-out smoked the competition. In his three Rockingham wins (all from the pole), Kyle led 433, 380, and 484 of the 492 laps. And at the 1987 Coca-Cola 600, he took control late and literally lapped the field. Kyle never finished higher than 5th in points, but on his best days, he was as good as there ever was.
All of that along with Kyle's combined seemingly independent personality as with the way he's always presented himself being so much of a radical departure from Richard. And I like all of the Pettys too, I'm just saying.
The thing is that Kyle Petty in his prime probably came closer to winning a championship than Jamie McMurray did. I didn't find Kyle to be very chaotic. He wasn't exactly squeaky clean like Mark Martin, but he was much more consistent than McMurray.
@@nascarfanatic2425 So he was like his old man, a neutral good type.
@@HemiSlant6828 somewhere between neutral good and true neutral, but yes.
Richard Petty and David Pearson. The Tom & Jerry of NASCAR.
So true
Agrred
JSFNation 🍰🥃🎂🍮
Who's the Tom and who's the Jerry?
@@SamnissArandeen petty is Jerry
Pearson is Tom
When you got to True Neutral, I knew Paul Menard was going to be there, he is the metapod of NASCAR.
James Dunn best analogy.
He even has the face.
Paul Menard, the ultimate example of what is wrong with NASCAR. You can be a total no driving sumbitch, but have a rich daddy willing to plaster his name on the side of the car, you can have long career in the sport (DEI, RPM, RCR, WBR)
@Max Blankenship Just shows that John Menard has too much money. Anybody else with his driving record would have been gone in 5.
I like Paul Menard! He is my favorite driver!
That was fantastic.
- A broken hearted Mark Martin fan
@Guss Ruffee he went from one extreme to another. 80s Mark Martin probably have won a championship but he also probably woulda burned out quickly with the way he was before he reformed and got with Roush.
Roush Racing in NASCAR is his legacy and its a damned shame what the Fenway partnership did to them. Another reason to hate the Red Sox.
@@snappy452 What did the Fenway partnership do to them?
facts
This was my dad. It explains everything about him.
Guss Ruffee
Same, but you know I think that’s why I liked him so much...
I loved that you put Dale Sr. as chaotic evil lol so many people somehow think of him as this teddy bear that everyone loved
That's because everyone that actually knew him did love him.
@@scottt3100precisely. Even as a kid I knew he was sort of an antihero. But that’s what I liked. ❤
He really did seem like a great guy under the helmet and black visor, he just rarely showed it. But when he did show it, you could how great of a guy he was. He was just that way because he was chasing his destiny, and when you have 7 championships, why stop doing that.
Of all the drivers that drove for Jounior Johnson I can imagine it being Darrel being the one to tell you "How do you know he didn't?" with a shit-eating grin behind a pair of shades.
It always comes back to 1992 Atlanta hooters 500
1992 Hooters 500 is THE quintessential NASCAR race. Half a dozen drivers in reach of the final prize. Jeff Gordon's first run. Richard Petty's swan song. And the ending -- won't spoil it! -- was the best thing ever, and extremely poignant, in retrospect.
i love that username
You nailed it. I was thinking the EXACT same thing.
Its the "Back To The Future" premise. That date is one of the biggest focal points in NASCAR history. I love it.
When doesn’t it?
I swear man, your passion for NASCAR history is awesome. By far my favorite channel!
Josh Doyle fax dude I agree!
How about the biggest "if it's not in the rule book, let's work around it", such as underbody kits and feet long full lines?....
agreed
Yep! I love this.
How the hell does this comment get 711 likes? LoL
When I you called Paul Menard the true neutral I couldn’t help but bust out laughing
Most boring driver in nascar
He is irritatingly neutral
@@sparkplug6918 he is basically a Vulcan
@@RandomTrinidadian True
Paul Menard, the ultimate example of what is wrong with NASCAR. You can be a total no driving sumbitch, but have a rich daddy willing to plaster his name on the side of the car, you can have long career in the sport (DEI, RPM, RCR, WBR)
NASCAR: “Alright guys, we need to make a comprehensive list of rules to make sure the racing is clean and fair.”
Junior Johnson and Smokey Yunick: “That’s our cue!”
As a Earnhardt fan (Sr and Jr), I like the way Sr raced. he didn't stick his neck out for anyone who didn't deserved it, he never let anyone pass him go of easy, and he never backed down from a fight.
R.I.P Dale Earnhardt
1951-2001
Dale Earnhardt and Ryan Newman dont let people pass them easily but it would've been cool if they could race together
@@timpowell1429 Ryan Newman?
Who the fook is that guy?
@@timpowell1429 I bet they are going to run each other off the course when they are contesting against each other for position given the fact Dale Sr and Newman were pair of hard, stubborn, competitive drivers. And then they would end up being called to meet Bill Jr / Brian France to ensure neither Dale Sr nor Newman, nor both, would end up crashing each other, just like Cole Trickle and Rowdy Burns from Days of Thunder.
@@eddierodriguezjr274 He had that scary crash in the 2020 Daytona 500
@@RazorSharp75426 Yeah
That moment when Lady Chaos just sweeps the top 10 under the rug.
Embracing the Darkness of the Intimidator here. Everything about him from how he drove to the paintjob on his car fit that Chaotic Evil role he got slotted in on the chart.
I can't remember the race or circumstance, but I remember one commentator calling Dale Sr. "Darth Vader" when he was looming behind someone.
I'm honestly surprised Dale Earnhardt doesn't seem to have any variation of "The Black Knight" among his nicknames. It seems fitting to me, but I guess in NASCAR's core demographic that's not an image that comes to mind all too often?
@@christopherwall2121 There was Earnhardt merchandise that had that on it. He had a ton of nicknames: The Intimidator, The Man In Black, The Black Knight, Ironhead....
@@zlinedavid Neat
So looks like we’re adding Justin Haley to chaotic neutral... gg justin
Plus, FOE sponsored both Haley and James Buecher, both at Daytona
You said it before me
Can here for this comment AND the eerie FOE sponsorship and same track coincidence. We need an updated vid!
@@CMFR89 OMG I NEVER NOTICED THAT. Not to be a conspiracy nut but that is an amazing coincidence.
I was sitting there waiting for NASCAR to call that race and quoted this video in my head: "sometimes you win a race by sheer goddamn accident"
My dad was Mark's private pilot for years and I loved getting to see his racecars and gym in his old hangar here in Daytona. Love Mark and his son Matt, amazing people.
Paul Menard is the TRUE definition of Neutral.
Not a Dale Sr fan but my favorite "not giving a shit" moment is when he climbed halfway out of the car to clean the windshield at Richmond.
My prayers have been answered to my wish for the NASCAR equivalent of Jon Bois. Masterful work as always
Mini chart party
How the hell can we crowd-fund this channel!? Please make more videos.
You can say he’s... pretty good
It’s nice but honestly feels mildly plagiaristic, i appreciate the content and the research, but stylistically it’s the same music, delivery etc.. over and over, its beyond inspiration to the point it almost undermines the video
@@skyracing-forums3937 He has Patreon now.
8:38 holy shit that Trigun music was unexpected but VERY appreciated
I was just thinking that! Glad someone else caught it ;)
i was trying to remember where it was from
I said this in a different video’s comment
I can appreciate a good soundtrack
Even if I am not an anime fan
Somehow, Lee Petty protesting his own son's first win strikes me as a real-life equivalent to Master Roshi entering the World Martial Arts Tournament to hand Goku and Krillin their first major losses.
And look how both those turned out.
love this analogy
When you were talking about chaotic wins and seemingly coming out of nowhere- that SCREAMS Kevin Harvick
21:26 Small correction for the Logano-Kenseth 2015 move at Kansas. Logano didn't need a win, having already won the week prior. He still probably moved Kenseth in an attempt to stop one of the strongest cars that season locking itself into the next round. Obviously went horribly wrong in hindsight xD
I got a bachelor in journalism, and read a lot/see documentaries all the time. You, my man, are the best on documentaries, seriously. Interesting, great knowledge and next level analytic. YOU ARE THE BEST on youtube and hopefully you can make more of these vids. I have seen all I believe. Best regards from Europe!
Agree this guy is good
EmpLemon also makes really good NASCAR documentaries, and S1ap knows him too.
That was everything I hoped for it to be and more. Amazing. Without a doubt, this has become my favorite NASCAR channel.
2:20 Lawful good - “The Face” Mark Martin
5:53 Chaotic good - “The Wild” “The Excitement” Jimmy Spencer, Jaime McMurray
8:14 Chaotic evil - Dale Earnhardt “he doesn’t care, he does what he wants”
13:18 Lawful evil - “Skirt the rules” Junior Johnson
17:17 Neutral evil - “play fair, play hard”
19:51 Lawful neutral - “Hard Work pays off” “Will you do what it takes to win?”
22:56 True Neutral - “Loner” “Just Race” “No Personality” Paul Minard “Quiet”
24:50 Neutral Good - Matt Kinsith, “King” Richard Petty
27:57 Chaotic Neutral - “Lucky” “Fortune” “By Chance” Danny Hamlin
33:41 Busher Brothers
Buescher cousins.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about Ray Evernham or Chad Knaus for neutral evil. Their drivers (Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson) were mostly Neutral Good, but their crew chiefs pushed a LOT of rules to the edge (and at times got caught) and strategized to the nines to give their drivers an edge.
I guess one of those guys is responsible for that one-off-mentioned T-Rex car then.
@@maxmercurythemm827 yup, that car was Evernham's doin
You're quickly becoming the Jon Bois of NASCAR content
He might have to compete with Emplemon
@@will9788 while EmpLemon made the best video I've ever seen on NASCAR, he's still only made one
He uses the same scripts, gags and music as Jon Bois, so yeah.
Way to lean into the "Jon Bois" comparison and make it your own! Hell yeah brother.
I was about to go off on you not including Smokey Yunick but then I remembered that it was the 9 types of Nascar DRIVERS. Great vid btw.
I don't know much about NASCAR, but I know Smokey Yunick and he seems to fit Lawful Evil to a T. He knew what the rules said, but knew EXACTLY what they didn't say. And happily worked around the rules that were said anyways.
NEEDbacon that’s what made him so good
Actually, Smokey Yunick drove in NASCAR, too. He was just best known for being a mechanic. IIRC, the infamous incident where Yunick got called out for having a too-large gas tank, then raced without a tank, yet didn't have to pit for fuel, he was driving that day. So yes, Yunick qualifies for the LE square minimum.
All those images of Paul Menard 'smiling', put the image of Toothless from How To Train Your Dragon.... now I can't unsee it. Thanks Slap.
10:35 - HAHAHA! Dale waved to the fans as he crossed the finish line for the win.
I love that mood haha
"It helps to not give a shit"
Lmao
He totally wrong about the 1992 Hooters 500. Replay clearly shows Earnhardt never touched Bodine. He did take the air off the spoiler but the replay shows a few inches of clearance running into turn 1.
Earnhardt Sr i hold in the same regard as The Holy One (Aryton Senna) for a reason. Both would turn up to races with only one thing in mind. WINNING. Doesnt matter if you piss a quwbillion people off along the way. What matters is who is at the top of the finishing order when all said and done.
Breaks my heart while also soothes it with admiration when listening/watching Mark Martin. My favorite Nascar driver. Exemplary conviction of moral and lawful good/driving.
Sadly the old adage is a partial truth.
Nice guys don't just finish last, they finish 2nd.
You absolutely nailed the alignment chart!
And you are dead on about Menard being a True Neutral. It even shows in his usual racing style and finishes. He always seems to run mid pack and occasionally even top ten, but there is never a fuss made over him.
But when he runs his best he always seems to be taken out by someone elses mess though, getting caught up in wrecks with nowhere to go. He is definitely one of my top favorite drivers, and I pull for him every week. I look forward to seeing him in victory lane again
I am cackling. Finally watching this video after years, get to the lawful neutral section and you describing your take on the alignment, and literally moments after I say "Ryan Newman" out loud to your description you say the exact same thing 😂
Also related to Lawful Neutral. I nearly forgot since I watched this over two sessions, but I feel like Chase being a poster child of Lawful Neutral in this video aged like milk
you are killing this NASCAR video demographic, you have single-handedly got me excited again about racing. returning to my roots!
I absolutely DO NOT even have the words nor vocabulary to express just how good this video is. Truly, the 1st 2min intro is Emmy Award Winning caliber type dialogue writing! WoW! Is all I can say 👍
Thanks to your videos you’ve opened my eyes to the world of NASCAR
NASCAR is not high-falurin' like IndyCar or F1, but it has its own rich history of colorful characters and spectacular shenanigans... which is exactly why I love it so much!
Being originally from Maine, my family were huge Ricky Craven fans. You never knew when he would be slow or fast. That Darlington win is my favorite ever. I lost my mind in the living room watching it.
My favor driver is/ was Davey Allison. I was just a kid when he died but he was (atleast in my eyes) the hero of Nascar. Every bit as good and aggressive as Earnhardt only not so dirty. He was so exciting to watch when him and Earnhardt would be door to door. Still get a smile seeing these old clips. Thank you.
Ah, Jamie Mac. Say what you want, I was always a fan. And man did he ever have some spectacular moments. That "drift" save at Vegas? An absolute thing of beauty...
I dont watch nascar, but this dudes videos are amazing! I am hooked to this channel..
Thanks
The amount documentation and dedication must take hours and hours and for only 7K subs. I seriously commend you sir! Excellent posts
If he keeps this up he will break 100k by this time next year. With his unmatched knowledge of the sport, the ability to break it down even for the casual viewers yet at the same time not dumbing any of it down all with a side of solid humor, he'll not only dominate the NASCAR youtube game but he's got the ingredients to go even further on here
@@jordanrobson3166 now the road for 150K
This is one of the greatest NASCAR videos I've found in TH-camLand. The analysis of each driver is so accurate. Kudos, Slap, kudos.
McMurray was alway my favorite since that first win in Marlin's car. I feel like you summed up his career really well.
Same
I am not a NASCAR fan in the least, listening to the passionate explanation and storytelling is top notch. Thanks
The last guy learned how to dodge wrecks by running in iracing rookies. Probably
Or just the racing gods saying fuck it. How does he NOT wreck there? How does anyone NOT wreck in that spot?
@@MH_0015 omg that is so true lol
William Byron would like to know your location
This is the only good tier listing channel
God your cancer is everywhere
Aryu Singhal God you need to shut the f up he likes commenting in NASCAR videos
Oh yeah and I forgot he has 9 year old minions..
Aryu Singhal Oh yeah I forgot you hate freedom
Good to see rational conversation on TH-cam
Your videos are thoughtful and well done. Glad I found your channel.
Love the video and really like the channel. I was a little surprised you put Rusty Wallace in the Chaotic evil though. I would've put him in chaotic neutral. He would only get back at a driver if they had done something to him in a race, he didn't bother you unless you bothered him.
This was absolutely wonderful. Your love for the sport and its participants shone through. The best piece of video I've ever seen on NASCAR. They need you doing this for them!
Out of the 10s of 1000s of YT videos I've ever watched, this ranks up in the top 5 for quality all around, from graphic to content to narration, through and through, regardless of content. Great work!
My uncle races sprint cars, and honestly I put him under chaotic good 🤣 we dont always go and win but like you said "when they were good, they were damn good." #28
Because of my having discovered and binged your channel, the ad at the top of my TH-cam home page is now "Best Cars For Seniors 2020."
You know what?
Worth it.
Started watching Nascar at the age of 3 and still watch it today and was an Earnhardt fan from when I was old enough to understand Nascar all tue way to 2001 when he sadly passed
Great video, you nailed most of it. I totally knew Martin and Earnhardt before you brought them up. Probably would’ve gone with Jimmie Johnson as neutral good, but I think you’re right about Petty.
This kid can read me like a book, I’ve might have been evil, but I was sure as hell good at racing.
Big E was always the BEST Evil, on the track, but I loved him just as much for being a sweet guy out of his car. Truly a beast in competition, but the best in being a super cool dude in regular life.
My son's name is Dale Earnhardt too! (Donie Dale Earnhardt Risk) Cool
Keith James ur last name is james
@@carbonifed I am THE Keith Risk (James is my middle name)
i think you have a challenger. me. let's duke it out on the track.
Dude this is fire, I like the way you speak the truth upon the sport. Keep up this great content, subscribed.
I like how this has a "chart party" feel to it
"One axis determines whether or not you follow the spirit of the law, and the other axis determines whether you follow the letter of the law"
How did you just distill a massively contentious DnD debate into a single sentence. People will argue for pages and pages about what the alignment chart means and you just nailed it with one line.
Bro, I've been a Nascar fan for just over 25 years. This guy knows more about Nascar then my 55 year old step-dad thats watched his whole life. Great video man!
I love the photo at 10:10 of Rusty and Dale Sr. For context, they’re doing a Polish victory lap at the end of the 1993 Hooters 500 in honor of Davey Allison and Alan Kulwicki, both of whom had died earlier in the year in separate aircraft crashes. Rusty was flying a flag with Allison’s #28, and Dale was flying Kulwicki’s #7.
The Violet Evergarden OST is the last thing I'd thought I'd hear when watching a video about NASCAR. But I don't hate it.
Kyle Larson is becoming the new Mark Martin/Harry Gant
I see him more like a Jeff Gordon. I see Kyle as a Neutral Good driver.
More like Kasey Kahne lol
I see his driving style like tony Stewart but not when off the track
@@nicholasshark1422 me too but I think he just likes to race people no matter what he's in and no matter what place he comes in, proven at Chicagoland, but that's part of the problem is he doesn't mind coming in 2nd as long as he had fun. Something kyle Larson and Busch needs to balance. Stewart would just dump a guy
Fish Productions yea I can see that
I don't know a damned thing about NASCAR or racing in general. I've never been interested by it. TH-cam's algorithm clearly knew something I didn't, as it recommended this video and I thought why not. And for 36 minutes I was thoroughly entertained as well as educated about something, under normal circumstances, I would have passed on by. Great video, great production quality, great narration. You get a well-earned subscribe from me (whatever that may or may not mean to you). Thanks for this!
Whew - My personal disclaimer: I rarely heap praise on TH-camrs, because frankly, I think there's far too many people that praise the TH-camrs and don't comment on the actual content.
But - You've got some serious writing and speaking chops my man. I think you were raised well; just my hopeful theory anyway.
FWIW, and to ensure I'm not being ironic (😂), your choice of Mark Martin as your favorite driver speaks volumes. To this day, Mark will personally reply to you via Twitter or whatever platform you're both on.
I think Austin Dillon would have been a good chaotic neutral character. Literally most of his wins have some sort of fluke or luck that he won them.
Like the 500
@@Crouchie261 like the 600
Like Auto Club xfinity 2016 😂
He wins just often enough you can't quite say it is a fluke
What about Spring Texas of 2020?
This is probably the only small channel that got me interested in the video so hard. Great work on the video and voice!
The quality of this is absolutely amazing! Great work dude!
0:56 - 1:18 not only have I never thought of that but this purely one of, if not the best, commentary shorts ever, i could repeat it all day if i could.
8:36 Twenty years later, his name STILL sends shivers down my spine...
The most entertainingly informative NASCAR related video on TH-cam, Thank You.
“That man is...”
Jeff Gordon? 😀
Jimmie Johnson? 😀
“Paul Menard”
😐
IKR😂
😂😂😂
Jeff and Jimmie are in my opinion neutral good.
I laughed my ass off
@ thats where id have them both as well
I can't believe Terry LaBonte was left out. Only 22 wins but 367 career top tens and 2 championships while driving clean and a fan favorite.
So neutral good
I still remember being at Bristol when Dale Sr. turned him. The ONLY time I ever heard Sr. being booed at Bristol.
One of the best NASCAR videos I've ever seen. Man, I would have watched three hours of this, with you talking about more drivers in each group.
I take for granted what a lovingly bizarre set of coincidences the Busecher brothers' stories are, being my hometown drivers by only 50-odd miles and having such odd circumstances befall their way in that quintessentially Chaotic Neutral fashion, and thanks for bringing to my attention how unlikely that is to happen again, as well as some of the details specifically how you pointed them out that I didn't put together or even know until this.
I'm really glad you mentioned the driver swap rule, I had an interesting thought last year regarding this rule, let's say Jones by some miracle makes the final 4 and Kyle Busch doesn't. Kyle Busch is a ton better than Jones in literally every way, so Kyle Busch drops out of the race, and lo and behold, Kyle Busch takes over the #20 for Jones, dominates Homestead and wins Erik the Championship. If this were to occur based on the rules, Erik Jones is your Champion, correct? Now the publicity behind this would be terrible, the title would be viewed as an absolute sham and it would destroy the view of NASCAR's playoffs, and NASCAR would likely call a foul, but the thought alone is interesting enough to ponder.
This could still have happened under the older formats as well. Say if Davey Allison got injured before the final race in Atlanta and starts but then swaps out with Rusty Wallace. Rusty flies off into the sunset, dodges Ernie Irvan’s wreck and boom: Davey Allison the 1992 champ.
Excellent video! Would absolutely LOVE to see you do a vid/documentary on Smokey Yunick!!!
your video editing is absolutely phenomenal, super happy to have come across this channel
MAN O MAN That Mark Martin bit at the beginning tore at my heart strings. He is my favorite driver of all time too, it's nice to find someone else who has the same admiration for him. Also I just stumbled upon your channel this past weekend and man I'm hooked. Started watching from your first video and I'm gong in order. Keep up the great work 👊
You should have a million subs! Your Videos are so in depth and so so so so good. Thanks for the great videos!
4:31 BAH GAWD THAT'S JON BOIS'S MUSIC
Also, I'd like to point out that, in the picture of Mark Martin you use in the chart, it looks like he's sponsored by Bosch Spark Hugs, and that seems pretty on brand.
I used to hate NASCAR... I was finding it boring, and the cars ugly... but man, since you do videos, I'm addicted to stock car racing! It's because of you man, your videos are awesome, you truly know and love your subject! Keep up the good work please
Émile Boucher-Cloutier nascar is not boring all the time only some races are this year only like 2 races were boring
@@dqqdaddq yup I just realised that ;)
Émile Boucher-Cloutier thats good :)
As a fan of open-wheel series with right-hand turns, watching Black Flags Matter's Patrick vid taught me three things: 1: turning left can be hard, the banking doesn't always have the optimal angle to retain traction, especially on exits. 2: dirty air is an issue just like in F1. 3: Danica's reactions reach Romain Grosjean levels of self-righteous indignation despite not actually knowing correctly what happened.
I've been a Jimmie Johnson fan ever since I watched the 2005 Coke 600, when he passed Bobby LaBonte clean and high in turn 4 on the last lap, and Bobby never contended again. I sat in Turn 4 in Las Vegas the next year, and watched him do this (again), this time to Matt Kenseth. He did this numerous times to win, when he didn't flat out outrun the field. Watching him run two absolutely perfect laps at Homestead 2016, with Kyle Larson on the outside was the longest I've ever held my breath ever. I was so overcome with emotion, it took me 2 minutes before I could finally breath normal and say a word, as the tears of joy ran down my face. Not forgetting of course the Indy tire debacle where they had mandatory pitstops every 10 laps, due to tires being shredded faster than a drift competition. Jimmie ran 10 perfect qualifying laps, to win the race, with Mark Martin two feet off his rear bumper the entire time. Many forget that race, but rarely do you see a cup driver dismantle the field with that level of F1 precision, while riding on potential grenades.
Lastly, the Superman victory at Fontana after a late race caution also exemplified this. I also watched him get win #48 at Fontana, holding off Harvick.
Woah! DUde! This is a great testament to your ability to put a video together. Whilst I have a passing interest in motorsport and know some of the older names in your video, I'm no NASCAR petrol head. Yet, I found the whole thing thoroughly entertaining. Great job!
you have no idea the amount of history that you are keeping alive with these videos dude. ive never given a crap about nascar, but find these and a couple other creator's videos about nascar fascinating. nothing screams the golden age of america than Nascar 70s-90s
My grandpa is an absolute DIEHARD Earnhardt fan. Like I’m talking has a room dedicated for all the nascar stuff and a corner dedicated to Earnhardt. When I showed him the embodiment of chaotic evil he said “Yup that sounds about right.” 😂
This was a really cool video. Love learning about nascars history. All sorts of interesting facts.
Keep it up!
Dale Earnhardt Sr is my favorite driver of all time he’s just so polarizing
man, I never knew much about NASCAR but I've been wanting to open my mind to it this past year (and I'm living in TN) and your channel is just great. Really informative!
You a re a legend for using Colorless Sky from Trigun