TENET Ending scene 4K. Protagonist notices that Neil has a red string on his back
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- The “ending” of Tenet reveals that The Protagonist’s impact reaches far beyond just being recruited for a world-saving mission. We learn that he recruited himself as well as Neil (Robert Pattinson), and even though we don’t see it, we can safely assume that the masked soldier who saved The Protagonist’s life at the opera was either The Protagonist or Neil. The narrative neatly folds on top of itself where you look at the first half with the knowledge that inverted people from the future are affecting events in the past. Of course, as with any time-travel narrative, you start to go cross-eyed if you try to start trying to untangle the various paradoxes, so it’s best to leave those aside.
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I walked out of the theatre backwards just to confuse other ppl there.
You are kidding right? You should drove your car back word from your home to theater
You are kidding right? You should had drove your car backwards from your home to theater.
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HAHAHAHA
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Guys, Tenet 2 was amazing, I can't wait for it to come out.
he....he
The best part is that a tennet 2 can work
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you get a million dollars for this comment! in the future
@@inigo-montoyaMy friend, it already has 😉
My mom has only seen Robert Pattinson in movies where he does American accents, so when we watched this she said "His British accent is awful" and I had to explain that he is, in fact, British.
That being said, she isn’t wrong
@@jwilly8149 his British accent is awful even though that’s just his natural accent? lol
@@amuroray9115 tbh i thought he was trying some other accent besides british lol
Id love to genuinely hear a british accent
Brit-ish accent
Their friendship is all there in that one moment. They’re saying hello for the first time as well as saying goodbye for the last.
u dont have to cut that deep man 😔
Can see how much it hurt him realising
Whuuuut
yes i also watched the clip
That's probably the best way to put the importance of this scene to words.
For this film to be so unemotional all the way through and then hit us with “by the way, I’m your best friend in the whole world” really got me
I don’t have a best friend and never will
@@Jessuschavez time changes all things and all things change within time.
@@Jessuschavez it has it's moments
@@treytilley333 There are those we use and there are those who use us.
You are friend as long as you can use them and no longer friend when you can not.
"Friend" is a lie you tell yourself .. . . .
or when you look back on their moments. like when neil mentions the coca cola
I love when he starts to cry when he realizes he's just met his best friend. "You've known me for years?"
Nolan definitely intended Neil to be Kats son as well but I think he couldn’t figure out how to make it work time wise
@@imanoldurango8213Not h3 couldn't, he just didn't put in the movie, remember that this movie was originally 6 hours.
really 6 hours? Will the full version be published? @@ahsenserhat9270
@@ahsenserhat9270 Imagine if it was like a 6 episode mini series. But Nolan is too much of an old cinema snob to ever have his work be stooped as low as TV.
@@MM-vs2etyeah it almost makes me wish there was a television series as a followup. Could show the concept more or show some of Neil and The Protagonist’s adventures
"Now let me go"
Simple, heavy line.
This one tugs the heart. This movie is brilliant.
@@ken33935- I love this movie SO much. 🥹 I hope Christopher Nolan never stops making movies like Momento, Inception, Interstellar & Tenet. His bigger blockbusters such as the Batman trilogy, Dunkirk or Oppenheimer are all AMAZING, don't get me wrong... but it's his more mind-bending, original films that really excite me most of all.
The most selfless thing a friend can do
@@KabbalahSherryThe Prestige 🔥
That smile Neil has when he hears the protagonist denying going back to check on Kat, says it all
Why the screen becomes brighter after setting it in full screen?🤷
Yup, he knows damn well TP is cap
@@AbhirajPal hdr I guess
So does this tie into the theory that he’s max? I strongly believe this theory.
@@troydeeshaw777 he founded Tenet basically
I love that Neil just says: “We get up to some stuff…” as a little way to ease the Protagonist’s pain. God I wish we could see the years they spend together saving the world
just took a dump and then accidentally did the same thing in reverse, not fun - Neil
Tenet 2……..🙏🏾
This movie feels like a pilot to a larger seris lol.
This is one of the few movies where I’ll say a sequel is warranted. The concept has massive potential. We won’t get it, but it would be great if we did.
In my mind, they go on crazy benders and other crazy hijinks such as going backwards dune buggying on the Arctic circle, and arm wrestling Zeus. Don't worry, they did love it.
This movie was difficult to understand during the action sequences, but watching it a second time REALLY has a lot of value. You really start to understand everything the second time through.
Like the good majority of Nolan's films they get better with a rewatch.
Soooo do you think Neil has a looping life ?
@@ahmarelvirgio823 What do you mean? He clearly has an ending at the door.
@@SirCowdog well Neil said "I'll see you at the beginning friend" The protagonist will meet younger him again in the future as a recruit
@@ahmarelvirgio823 Well, that's sort of a double loop. A paradox. It's definitely a time loop. But not specific to Neil.
Neil knows the Proragonist from the beginning of the movie. But at the end the Protagonist will go back in time after having already met Neil. And Neil implies they go on many adventures.
The tricky part is that it's VERY likely that the older version of the Protagonist is still alive during the events of the movie. Controlling events from behind the scenes.
Does Neil have communication with the older version?
I always imagine that there are people out there like Neil. People who saved the world but doesn't care about any recognition because they just did what they think are right.
A bit late, but here's one of them: Stanislav Petrov
There are people like that in real life.
Risking their lives working in the most dangerous and disruptive environments handling our country’s nastiest business. Their heroism will never be publicly recognized and the depth of their sacrifice will forever only be known by the few who were there.
Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.
@@ragnarlothbruk5090 There are people like that in real life.
Taking lives creating the most dangerous and disruptive environments carrying out our country's nastiest business. Their villainy will never be publicly exposed and the depth of their depravity will forever only be known by the few who were there.
Luxury has a flavor the entitled choose to never know.
They do. They are in different field. Medical, special forces, law enforcement and etc
@VoltDenatsu you’re literally a hero for even fucking replying with this quote. I hope you’re well friend.
No matter what people say, this film teaches a valuable lesson: Let go of the past, live in reality. And certain friendships transcend time altogether. I know some people had problems with this film, but I believe that Nolan made a simple concept visible.
The protagonist also fights his past self to reach the future… a good lesson in who is often holding us back.
This film is a reminder that we have to stop Obama and Soros from destroying our culture and heritage in the future
@@Daniel-mw7pu a literal fight with your past in order to move forward
Yeah no ur wrong lol that is not the lesson of the film
@@mainvayne4203 the lesson is whatever u take away from it.
Surprisingly emotional scene between the two friends. Neil was the best part of the movie in my opinion.
Absolutely!
My heart sank when it was revealed. Knowing he becomes your best friend, and you know you can't change his fate. And to also know he was there to help you when you didn't know you needed it.
@@lescarpio Been a little while since I've watched it now, but as I understood it the Protagonist never wanted to lose any friends or teammates and worked hard to save lives, but in that dialogue with Paul he finds out not only is he the one that recruited him and was his bestfriend for many years, he essentially orchestrates the entire event leading to Neil's death before he actually meets him, befriends him, and recruits him.
Throughout their entire friendship he will always know he's going to be responsible for Neil's death.
@@lescarpio Yes I think when Protagonist was saying "But if we can we change things if we do it differently" he was really asking "Can we save you if we do things differently." for the most part he didn't have much emotion except with Kat and when he realized Neil was walking to his death.
It's like Neil was the REAL protagonist
I had tears when i realised it was Neil the one who save him from the beginning to the end
I had tears when I realized Neil was the little boy
@@marelliusthorzon3638 Neil was the little boy?! Mind blown
@@marelliusthorzon3638 he likely wasn't
@@AndrewNenakhov if you understood how the movie worked it’d be quite obvious he likely is . It’s almost common sense when you understand Nolan’s language for film . He’s literally shot every movie with that same departure lol If you want I’d explain It to you .
@@marelliusthorzon3638 i understood how the movie worked quite well, thanks, it is not some kind of rocket science. Just too many years spending in reverse - Neil is about 35 while max is 10, that would require to spend 12 years in reverse, which is quite exhausting and extremely difficult to organize from the logistical point of view. Not impossible, of course, since TENET is a very big organization with seemingly limitless resources, ships, helicopters, a hundred operatives and doubtless lots of support stuff, but still covering one reversed person for a decade is not easy logistically.
The problem with the whole 'neil is max' theory is that it is almost baseless: the only evidence is them both having blond hair, and very flimsy evidence with names . Yet, Kate had spent a few weeks with Neil (tallinn-freeport, then some normal time, then reversed back to point of the final operation), and what, she didn't notice an uncanny resemblance of this guy to her son? Totally implausible. I have sometimes met previously unknown people who so strongly resembled someone I knew before, so that I knew they were related without an introduction (siblings, parents), and here a woman can't recognize that this person looks like an adult version of her son? lol many times to that.
3:02 really like the Protag’s understated crying. It’s just about the most emotional he gets in the film so you know he’s hurting.
yeah great even though i dont know tf is happening
I think the Protagonist realizes Neil is the one died when opening the door to the bomb underground when he saw that red string. He went back to die, but making sure the protagonist reach the bomb with Ives in time to be pulled up by his past self (before that past self does the same, again, and again).
That's why Neil said "For me, I think this is the end of a beautiful friendship" because he knew what will happen when he goes back in time and that is his reality.
@@christo_reese As well as the same dude that saved him way back at the beginning, where he first encountered reversed bullets.
@@thedreamcapture2681 the Protagonist, along with the viewer, has just realised that Neil is his best friend of years, that Neil has spent most of his life helping the Protagonist fulfil the mission of saving the world, AND that Neil is knowingly about to sacrifice his life to ensure it’s success. Incredible scene imo
The first time he cried was in the beginning when he was in the hospital bed after the "test" mission that "failed" when they told him that his whole team had died. It was the first instance where we knew how much he cared for his people. It's in his character.
I watched Tenet 3 times before learning John David Washington is Denzel Washington's son. Now whenever I rewatch the movie or see these clips again, I can't help but always hear Denzel's voice coming out of The Protagonist's mouth. His cadence and line delivery is just like his father's. It's amazing how some people carry the traits of their parents.
I knew he was Denzel's son before I watched it.
But, I was struck by the similarities he had with his father.
If you enjoyed John David Washington in this watch BlacKkKlansman. This and Tenet are my two favorite movies of his. He also did a movie with Zendaya that I heard was really good too that I haven’t seen yet
I didn’t know he had a son and now i cant un hear it since you’ve said it😂😭😭😭🥹
Bro what i just found out by this comment i thought they are just happen to have same surename
@@cjss-yg2lz Malcolm and Marie was absolutely more confusing than Tenet.
I left the theater thinking 'i wish I had a friend like Robert Pattinson in Tenet.' He's the coolest character in the history of movies.
I left the theatre wishing that I have been as good and loving a friend like Neil.
@@johnprovatidis1503 Me either. I wish you so
Same
I wish I didnt, not considering how that friendship ends.
He's real hero, feel so sad for him, I wish Tenet have part 2 and by somehow they will finish the plan and Neil stilll alive, he's deserve a happy ending!! Not sad ending like this!!! :( Damn
“ I’ll see you in the beginning my friend. “ gives him ease that he will see Neil again, this movie honestly teaches you to let go of the past
3:08 “For me, I think this is the end of a beautiful friendship.”
“But for me it’s just the beginning?”
2:22 What's happened has happened which is an expression of faith in the mechanics of the world. It's not an excuse to do nothing... hearing it, the protagonist realizes his purpose
Can you explain the meaning of this line? I'm perplexed.
@@smellypatel5272 People generally say to themselves "What's happened has happened" because they prefer to ward off responsibility from an outcome. It is much easier to find blame for the things that inadvertently happen in life. Nevertheless, even if that is how things are in the mechanics of the world, you are still far from being excused from the corollary of your action or inaction in life. Just because the fact that another person has caused it does not excuse your life from taking a turn for the worse. If you truly believe you are the protagonist in your life story then you should even own up to the things that come about not by your design. At that moment the protagonist finally decided to take charge: "weaving another past in the fabric of mission..."
@@word1013 thank you. people like you give me insight and actually help me learn deeper parts of movies than the surface level of words and action
@@MoneyyyOG To elaborate, it's also about the nature of the time travel in tenet. Throughout the film the protagonist doesn't really seem to understand how it works, he keeps thinking that you can change future events by going back into the past. But the way it works is that you already went to the past and tried, so "what's happened has happened". But he still had to go back and do it, so it's not an excuse to do nothing.
@@xenn4985 Another way to put it is that in Tenet there is one timeline, one reality (referenced earlier by the Protagonist about "if we are here now does that mean we win" to which Neil replies "in an optimistic view I'd say that but there's know way to comprehend the existence of multiple realities or universes". They fight because there's no way to know for sure this is the way it works so they have to fight to try and stop the algorithm from being activated.
So in Tenet essentially there is one universe and one timeline. Neil died in the past (in this scene moving forward in time). So he will go and invert and die as was shown. There is no way to change that as what's happened, happened. There's only one reality.
This movie has so many subtleties its crazy. "You wont look to hard" was not a question it was a statement. I love how you rewatch this and catch small things like that all over.
Nolan always does great when making movies rewatch able. Literally Dunkirk is made around that idea having it running in splits times during the event
Too
"Didn't your team need you?"
"Get 'em on the next pass." It's already clear that he's going back to fill in for himself and finish leading his team on the mission. Then go back _again_ so he can open the door, save the day, and die.
Neil wouldn’t have known though. The protagonist future is Neil’s past . You see this Neil, present Neil has skin in the game and dies saving the protagonist from the Russian . The protagonist goes back in time and switches courses when he goes back far enough. He meets Neil again(past Neil) and introduces himself and recruits him. The events that happen after this scene would be the actual future which Neil wouldn’t be apart of
"You won't look to hard"
What about looking to soft? Or the left or right?
One of the most weirdly emotional scenes in a Nolan film. Even with all the complex, abstract time travel stuff and Nolan-ey dialogue, you can really feel the sadness. I think a lot of that is in the performances. How JDW is suddenly overcome with emotion, and how cool and casual Pattinson is acting, trying to make this goodbye hurt a little less for his friend. It's my favorite scene in the film.
This film really made me realise Pattinson has a lot of talent.
I'd like to think the world is held together by people like Neil. No fuss no bs just responsibility.
You’ll be disappointed then
This is a valid opinion and I personally support it!
It is. However, we all have our own BS. It's when we forget about it and take responsibilty the world doesn't crumble.
Well,that number is fewer
Like as in control or not?
"I see you at the beginning, friend" was such a beautiful line.
The line “even from afar” means so much more after multiple viewings, I still feel that max is Neil, only reason he’d know about the protagonist as intimately as he did - just a theory I hope they make one with Neil and the protagonist and we get to see the fun stuff they did
max and Neil can't be the same person though.... I mean at least I hope it's not ...
Because why would the protagonist risk all this to make it possible for her to be united with her son only to then take him away when he is all grown up.
Also Neil doesn't show any emotion you'd expect when meeting his 'mother'...
Also ... I mean ... lets say the kid travels back in time the moment he turns 18. That means he needs to travel at least 10 years into the past just to reach the time when he was 8 years old.
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I love the theory but it just doesn't add up...
I bet there is some truth hidden in it tho ... some things do seem to line up too good for it to be all fake.
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 Plus it seems that the person who does the most reverse traveling is the protagonist.
Well if they are like best friends in future thatd explain a lot too
Everything Neil says takes on a new meaning after multiple viewings. Pattinson delivered every line perfectly too. That scene destroys me every time.
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 watch the video about this theory. It makes lots of sense and even the boy's name, Maximilien, spelled backwards starts as "Neil" fits well with the boy traveling 'back' in time. Neil also cares for his Mom when she gets hit by the bullet.
"I'll see you at the beginning, friend." Damn, dude. The feels.
This movie is ahead of its time.. for me it will be the most rewatchable movie ever for sure
Are you saying this movie came from the future
@@b.melakail yes, the movie got itself into a turnstile and got to us
Reference
Before it's time blue man.
yup- the re-release is coming up, looking foward to seeing it again on the big screen
Notice how at 02:06 when the camera shows the string on Neil’s bag, there’s a wave in the music used in Neil’s theme “Meeting Neil”. Amazing.
Loved the film and especially the music by Ludwig Goransson.
What’s with the string again? Sorry I’m a little confused here😅
@@ameenhabib703 the protagonist saw the string on the soldiers backpack in the beginning of the movie. He was the one who saved him in the theater
I can never get over the subtle expressions in this movie, like Neils face at 1:45. It feels like in that moment, he is realizing and accepting that his next and final move of the mission is to go back and sacrifice himself. It's blank and almost expressionless and as he turns you can ever so faintly hear him sigh. It's the moment where he doesn't do nothing, he makes a decision and that decision saves the world and also ends his life. Man after a couple watches, this is a film masterpiece. It's an exercise, and not easy, but it's a masterpiece.
This was so sad once he realized it was Neil the whole time. I almost wanted to cry with him.
What was neil the whole time?
@ameenhabib703 the one who kept saving him throughout the movie. Way back at the beginning of the movie at the theater that was Neil and other times Neil was helping but in reverse. I think Neil is that kid too and he may actually be Neil's step-dad eventually.
At 1:46, Neil's expression tells you everything. He knows that he's going to die.
damn that emotional goodbye is so palpable. The sadness, the realization, the regret of not know and then finally discovering who has been protecting him.
This reminded me of the love story between River Song and Doctor Who. Both were time traveling adventurers, so they kept meeting up in the wrong order. They keep a journal of their times together so that, when they do run into each other, they can quickly catch up on where they are in each other's timeline.
When the Doctor first met Song, she had already known him, fallen in love with him, and married him. But for the first time in her experience, she met a Doctor that hadn't even met her yet - the current one, as of that episode. The Doctor's meeting this woman for the first time, blown away that she knows his secrets but isn't a threat. She sacrifices her life to save him, telling him not to worry because he has everything to look forward to, and feeling weird about the revelation that the whole time she knew him, he had known exactly how she would die.
From where do start i watching Doctor Who
@@hikkiko9050 That episode where River Song died had a library in it. Trying to help you find it without spoiling it.
@@hikkiko9050 Doctor Who (2005). that starts with Chris Eccleaston (sp) but that's the 'new' Doctor Who. you can watch it out of order given its time travel and such. but 2005 is where a lot of people start except if they find an episode randomly and then go downt he rabbit hole lol
Considering people say this movie is detached, this was one of the saddest I've been at a movie ending
@Danny Tallmage speak for yourself. Did you see the dead body when they were in the mineshaft? Notice what’s on the backpack. Neil is destined to die according to the closed loop time paradigm
@Danny Tallmage He gets shot in the goddamn head, I’m fairly certain we know he’s going to die. They make a comment about him picking a lock in good time.
I understand you were more focused on writing down complaints and copying other people’s opinions, but try to actually watch next time, it will save you time.
People just say it because they love to jump on bandwagons and parroting opinions. Once you ask them what their actual issues are, you’ll realize all of them are actually explained within the movie, they just had their brains turned off.
You HAVE to watch Tenet twice. Not should, but have to. The beauty is that the whole movie is Nolan's pincer maneuver. As Neil said, when you think it's the end you're actually only halfway through. And to really complete the journey of this movie you have to watch it a second time, but this time knowing the end.
I know this film wasn’t really made to hit people in the feels but the ending with Neil and the Protagonist really hit me in the feels.
I like how he's named, "Protagonist," but, in a weird, sad, say, he's the movie's _biggest antagonist._
No, you don't know that :)
We need a sequel, but even if it was a sequel it would essentially be a prequel it’d be both really
Didn't the director leave this company?
I don't think we will ever get a presequel!
@@tellhand3917 the director is still part of syncopy
This is just my intuition speaking, but I really don’t think Nolan is interested in doing a sequel to any of his (non-Batman) films…and he’s right. His films don’t need a sequel.
@@wilsontCundliffe the director owns syncopy
+ he is the one who wrote the movie
(chris nolan)
@@kyovibe yes im aware, he owns it still according to some sources
"I realised I wasn't working for you, we've both been working for me" goes so fucking hard
I think Neil knew he was gonna die based on his relationship with the Future protagonist. The Future protagonist probably treated him in a certain way since he knew Neil's fate.
I get why some people felt like this film lacked emotion or character relationship but this scene totally catches you off guard right at the end which hit harder because you feel like the protagonist and his deep gratitude for someone he has to say goodbye to and knowing their fate when he eventually meets them for the first time.
It be like finding out this dude you just met a few days ago saved your life and was your best friend, going back through time to help you only for you to know how he will die. Imagine eventually meeting him and going on awesome times only for this moment to be in the back of your mind. Im sure Neil sensed that when they were together, maybe not when he would die but that he would die and eventually seeing the protagonist's eyes as he tried to stop him probably fulfilled it.
Agree! Well said. 🤍
I liked that it only had a few key scenes of showing emotion. At the end of the day this is a movie about highly trained agents and killers trying to change the world. One side preventing the end of it and the other side trying to end it. It makes sense that emotion wasn't show often. It made sense that Neil and the protagonist had that moment, it also showed how the time line went for us viewers. I think the movie needed this scene to almost tie it all together.
You’re definitely right, Neil even says it: “For me, I think this is the end of a beautiful friendship”
Neil died?
@@blackwallnthesestreets7054own in the Turnstile, Neil went to actually lock the door and as he does it Sator tells Volkov to shoot him in the head hence Neil's death but as we see it instantaneously his inverted self is opening the door leading to the Protagonist killing Volkov while at the same time 3rd Neil gets them out through the armored vehicle (been almost 2 years since I last watched the movie so I might not have explained it thoroughly right. This video explains it perfectly tho th-cam.com/video/QIK9b3vMLxg/w-d-xo.html
Kenneth Branagh was truly intimidating in this role.
I really wish Tenet would get a reissue. I never got to see it on the big screen
I'm sure it will at some stage, just keep an eye on the smaller cinemas!
i did, it was fricking loud.
@@AzUthred haha it was mixed wrong when it was initially released, that opening opera scene was absolute ear rape for me the first time I watched it when the music first kicked in and the gun shots too
Don't sleep on Nolan films in theaters then
Yeah this movie damn near destroyed my ears Dolby Sound in AMC made me regrett my destiny
I love how in both Tenet and Interstellar (and arguably Inception), Nolan leaves the story wide open for a sequel, with probably no intention of ever doing one.
And I hope he never does!!
this ending is underrated. the whole movie just made me appreciate every movie i thought was a bit boring before. i just view every movie differently for some reason after this masterpeice hit the theaters.
Imagine just meeting your best friend in the whole world right when the friendship is ending for you...but knowing there is a whole past you two have that was awesome and you haven't even lived it yet...
This is still one of my FAVORITE movies of all time. The fact that it's polarizing & some think we're ridiculous for enjoying it makes me love it even more. Excellent acting, beautiful cinematography, and writing is on another level. Could rewatch a million times even though I understand it
There's plenty the film fails at. The concept is actual nonsense, both scientifically and logically with all the paradoxes. That's not a big deal as really you should not try to focus on the exact details and implications, and just enjoy it, but a lot of the film is spent on exposition that really shouldn't be there, and that exposition is part of the problem. It's an absolute spectacle and should be enjoyed as such. The other big problem, and the main issue I had with the film, is the sound mixing. This clip sounds great, but it's clearly a raw clip that's been uploaded and I'm listening to it through good quality headphones. If you watched this film in anything other than a top quality cinema, or at home not with an expensive sound system, large swathes of the film are unintelligible. Nolan has this frustrating snobbishness about refusing to release a "lower quality" sound mix for home systems, and the result is that I, and many others, missed large chunks of exposition and other crucial dialogue that was being drowned out by the music. Note: in the freeport this was done well, the music blocking dialogue reflecting where Neil's attention is. However, in that section I completely missed the dialogue about the gold on my first watch and was confused why there was just tonnes of gold in the plane. I enjoyed the film overall, more than most, and I can appreciate it a lot more watching with subtitles. Nothing wrong with enjoying the film: it's very interesting and there's not a lot like it. Just thought I'd provide a semi-concise explanation as to why the film is off-putting for some
this movie is really an experience… ive watched like 5 times n the more i watch i realize the plotholes/inconsistencies, yet at the same time i seem to appreciate n love it more… maybe just the cinematography/acting/score is just too perfect it makes the film so likeable
@@goodguykonrad3701 yeah I would have to agree with that. It is a theme in a lot of his movies. More Woo than science as long as we accept that and just enjoy it for what it is you can have a good time.
I have no idea what this was about
So you're a contrarian? LOL, just say that instead of all the bullshit.
What made this scene really hit is on the rewatch. When you notice all the little things that shows that Neil knew him way better than he ever showed. All the way up to their "first" meeting when he told him he doesnt drink on the job.
One of the greatest scenes in cinema.
Imagine meeting a stranger for the first time and they're seemingly overwhelmed with happiness to see you, ecstatic that you're alive, and they fill you in on the years of friendship that you're about to have with them, that they've already had with you. They know in the back of their minds that those years of friendship end with your death because they were there and saw it.
"we've been friends for years" always gets to me.
you know come to think of it i think they purposely used chinooks for transport not because of its capacity or lift capability, but because its propellers are contra rotating, almost like to compliment the theme of the movie, where one propeller's spin counters the other's...you achieve balance...
Clever
Everything in this film is done meticulously to reflect the concept of inversion.
The Protagonist and Neil's relationship reminds me of Merlin's plot in "The Once and Future King". He travels through time backwards, making final goodbyes meaningless and first encounters tearful and bittersweet
That Casablanca reference with Neil at the end made me so happy
It gets deeper when you realize how many times Neil’s died for this mission
n times
Umm, only once
He died once. Bad takes like that “Neil is max” theory lol. Goes against the point of the concept
@@tobyj4920 but this theory is true, Neil asks TP two times about Kat and "the child".
@@hiepdang6201 Which proves absolutely nothing. Agewise, it doesn't make any sense for him to be Max.
"For me I think this is the end of a beautiful friendship"
This line😔
What happened is happened is just an expression of faith in this mechanics of the world. Not an excuse to do nothing!
This hit me so hard.
I’ve quoted that to so many people over the last few years.
Couldn’t wrap my head around this movie the first time. A year or so later i couldn’t stop watching it.
That perfectly cut scream at the end had me rolling.
LMFAOOOOOOO 😂😭
I really hope this movie eventually gets a part 2 or -1 depending on how the chronology works. I wanna see how he Neil meets him and the part where they, get up to some stuff”.
It will never happen
@@levyan4718 Yeah, we don't need every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed in sequels and prequels.
An example of where the wheels famously fell off while trying to provide extra back-story and then sequels is the Star Wars trilogy, with the only really good prequel to "A New Hope" being "Rogue One". Even that wasn't really needed, as they had to kill off the main characters lest they have the "Captain Marvel problem" of not being around during the original trilogy.
@@levyan4718 it already has....
@@dj1NM3 Most of the prequels weren't on par but to be honest it wouldn't have the same without it, definitely not. It started off bad but the transitioning of everything to the original trilogy was done well and truly added value. The sequel trilogy on the other hand, I can agree that that was just literally useless jargon. That being said I agree, there's no sequel/prequel needed for this, chances are very slim it will be on par and truly adds to this already amazing story.
if that made a sequel it would be a prequel
Man his voice is almost exactly his father's
He doesn't have those dead killer eyes like his dad though. Still, he's a badass.
@@lenmetallica probably better in some cases don't get me wrong Denzel can obviously do sad scenes but sometimes it looks like he doesn't really care
@@lenmetallica He has a more relaxed and detached look in his eyes instead, more of a calm killer rather than a cold one. Personally, that's equally as intimidating and badass.
He walks like his dad too
"I'll see you at the beginning friend" love that line
Another 20 years more people will realize this movie was very close to masterpiece .
The ironic thing about this movie is that , although it was created in the present ,I think only those in the far future will truly appreciate it .
As will those in the past.
i love how it cuts neil speech when he is in the truck with protagonist and it plays back later as the ending
That part when Neil was seemingly disappointed when the Protaganist told him that he is not going to check on Kat (and himself), even from afar... broke my heart
I'm pretty sure he would know TP would still watch from afar since he's known him for years
It wasn't disappointment. It was a cynical chuckle because he knows the protagonist cares But won't admit it.
@@Irving_teran exactly
Pretty sure Neil's knows it he already lived that past and protagonist guiding his past self
This is the end of a beautiful friendship, Nolan had add that line from Casablanca but he reversed it.
imagine if Neil is just fucking with him and it's not actually the protag who recruited either of them. Now he is just wandering around time thinking tenet is his thing when it's not.
Nah that would be hella messed up
I don’t believe my own brain now
This is a really great scene now that I can hear what they're saying, couldn't make out a word they said watching it in the cinema
Same. Ive watched it several times at home. Makes a world of difference.
I had to turn on subtitles when watching it on streaming as the audio is so bad.
freal, the music was waaay too loud at parts in the cinema
When he told him that they got up to lots of stuff that he's gonna love, that really made me yearn for a sequel. I hope Christopher Nolan makes a sequel after Oppenheimer
Neil is the boy max, Kats son
That’s why he can speak Belarusian
Maxami(lien) = Neil
The protagonist protects him all his life then recruits him after college (physics)
That’s why he smiles when the protagonist says he won’t go back to see Kat. He’s his step father.
in the film, it was said that Neil knows Estonian. It's not the same thing
Robert Patterson Neil outshined everyone in this movie.
This might not have been the best movie of 2020 but it was my favorite god this movie hits so hard
Love this scene but to me it doesnt feel so sad. The Protagonist now gets to live their friendship, and Neil has lived it and gets to make the ultimate sacrifice to save his friend and ensure his safety. Its just beautiful to me.
Bittersweet to be precise
Men of onions we meet again😭
2:41 _now, let me go..._
The masked soldier that saves the protagonist's life at the opera is 100% Neil. You can see the red string and the washer on his backpack as he runs away.
No shit bro
@@viswanathpillai9856 hahahaha give him a break bro
i would never have caught up to that
Wow who'd have thunk? ROFL
also if you look carefully you will notice that the protagonist is black
This film was absolutely insane! SOOO GOOOOOD! Nolan is a master story teller and even though some say this is one of his weaker films....I think it's another masterpiece!
Man, I cry every time I hear this damn music when Neil tells the protagonist about their history together. The acting is just perfect on top.. I love it.
Pure goosebumps, the whole tone and emotion Nolan is able to convey while keeping you hooked is special
God Rob and JDW's delivery in this movie is insane
"Yes, I will." is my favorite line in the movie, above even references to hot sauce, doggie bags or anything Michael Caine said. Absolute conviction mixed with the practicality of "no one person can know" and "after hiding my piece, my job is to kill everyone who knows anything."
the best line for friendship story
It was so strange walking out and thinking I had a friend the whole time.
“For me... I think this is the end of a beautiful friendship..”
such beautiful writing. genuinely get’s me every time ❤❤❤
4:18 my man’s probably been given an inverted phone so he can receive calls from the past, God I love this movie so much.
This is the type of movie that people hate because they didn't understood it and a lot of people hate that feeling. It's a great film
People always hate, what they don´t understand. Makes the world easier, but not better.
@@andreasmerkel5717 Totally true, I think most people go watch movie to off their brain and relax watching simple theme, that's why action genre movies are the biggest by viewer count "these are bad guys, these are good guys, there is your gun and go do your thing" no thinking required at all. movies like inception, interstellar, tenet... are "harder" to watch for many. Conspiracy theorists blame government for keeping new inventions (yes I have both seen and heard that) from going public, but I don't think they have anything to hide because there are no major advancements for a reason: Nobody likes to think anymore, everyone wants everything to be simple, and when it's complex issue or just takes time, people tend to give up right away, proceeding to do something simple, as a civilization we're on a downfall since before I was born (I'm 2002). Another example would be money, never in history was it easier to make money than it is now using internet, yet from first hand experience of watching my surrounding everyone is poor to the bone while complaining about it, why? because it requires you to think, even if only a little bit and that's just too much effort. It's crazy world we live in now, makes you think if Matrix (1999) was a sci-fi or a documentary.
@@lad4830wow bro your so cool for being edgey
@@daveagard1884 You must be an actor in Tenet playing the role well. The people @lad4830 is describing are those like yourself. Or not since you're enough to be aware
that's why I love Nolan's movie, it's kind of fatalistic and that's why it's beautiful
One of the cleanest scenes in movie making
What's happened happened,which is an expression of faith in the plot mechanics of Tenet,not an excuse to not enjoy yourself watching Tenet
I loved the concept of a time travel movie where time travel can’t be used to change the past, where essentially if you’ve time traveled into the past to change it you where already there the first time things happened youth knowing it, I found that so cool
That is called a stable time loop/bootstrap paradox/predetermination paradox. And it makes more sense than pop culture multiverse garbage. The only flaw that people think the phenomenon has is not actually a part of it.
@@Cetra29 can you explain that flaw? I heard about bootstrap paradox B4 in SNK vid but I don't know about this "flaw"
The flaw that people see comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept.
People see this flaw whenever they ask themselves "But where did it start? What came before? There had to be a 'before'?"
No, there does not. Not understanding that fundamentally sails away from the very fact that this is to be a cycle. It is not some loop that is initiated, it is a loop that was always there since time existed and is always there so the "beginning" that people demand is a "proxy" in the cycle itself. People would now go on a rant "this makes no sense! there has to be an independent beginning!" No, there hasn't. If there is supposed to be another thing "before" it a) is no self-sustaining ALWAYS existing cycle and it also would require events to consist of a numeric system - that is completely against what a bootstrap paradox is. The following explanation is getting very abstract because I am trying to make some of the logical problems of those who criticize it clear: What they think with is what multiversal events use as logic. With that I mean (hypothetically) people expect that an event happens n times but then suddenly for the n + 1st time it is not the event. And that n + 1st time causes the time split. That is not the logic of an endless cycle though because in a bootstrap paradox you do not watch an event "unfold for n + x times" it just IS the same event. it does not "repeat to coincidentally unfold the same way", it just is what already happened. Which is also why the phrase "what happened, happened" exists. Events that would happen n times and be identical but would still not BE the same from an existential point of view, they would just look the same like a clone and you. If you watch a bootstrap paradox it IS the same and not "some event that just looks the same". Now of course that is just one thing I wanted to say to make it a bit more clear but that is not all.
The concept is, since the cycle always existed, that the future exists to always support its own coming-into-existence. Which again is not believable for those who are against those who do not like the bootstrap paradox because they dismiss the idea of what a cycle actually is by demanding an independent beginning. At that point I want to point out that for them to be right the future would not be allowed to exist parallely. (And it has to exist anyway already if we already go far enough to talk about possible time travelling otherwise no backward and forward timetravelling is possible - but if we leave that out then of course it might look different). But if all times exist parallely and does not just come into existence like some loading bar in a video game then the future is also always there to support itself.
Another logical flaw that those who are against a bootstrap paradox is actually an even bigger paradox which requires time changing and that also goes against the idea of the multiversal concept so by even thinking of that they bite themselves in the ass without realizing. I had a clearer thought process about that once but I am writing right now spontaneously so maybe I will remember what I thought about that one day. Not now.
In any way the concept of cyclic events is NOT unpopular in fiction.
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - Harry casts a Patronus because he realized he already travelled through time and succeeded in casting a Patronus.
Zelda Ocarina of Time - Link learns the Song of Storms in the future from a man, then goes back in time to teach it to the man.
Back to the Future - Chuck Berry learns Johnny B. Goode from Marty who first heard it from Chuck.
Final Fantasy VIII - Edea Kramer creates the concept of the Gardens to raise sorceress hunters after Squall, the main character of the game right after the final battle was catapulted back to the past and told her he was a "Seed" from the Garden.
Dragon Ball Super - Trunks flees from his own time from a person named Zamasu/Goku Black which in turn leads to the events of Zamasu figuring out who they are, meeting them and eventually travelling to Trunks to terrorize him (the anime version of that is relatively complex because it combines timelines and timeloops).
Chrono Trigger - the characters see the main character "die" so they get a fake double of his body, get back to that moment and swap the character out with the double so their past selves think they see him die (this is actualy one that sparked debates amongst fans because some think they just changed time paradoxically but from a narrative oint of view it would have everything a bootstrap paradox has so I go by that as it is more consistent).
Twelve Monkeys - Bruce WIllis goes back in time to prevent something from happening - I do not remember what, I hated the movie - and at the end he realized he could not stop it and that he was one of the elements for the loop to even be a thing, as it always is for such events.
DNA² - Karin Aoi travels back in time to prevent the creation of the infamous "Mega Playboy" who had children with 100 woman whose sons also had the Mega Playboy DNA but the medicine she gave the guy actually turned him into the Mega Playboy (also a combo story because later it uses the consistency paradox of overwriting time).
Kim Possible - secondary main villain Shego travels back in time after having gotten what she wanted to tell her past self from her plan enabling her to do it (combo with consistency paradox in the end when they break everything)
Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance - Ansem the Seeker of Darkness, Heartless of the man called Xehanort travelled back in time to teach his young self about time travelling and his plans.
I could talk more about it but not now.
@@Cetra29 Thanks for the read. This concept is truly my favorite and it makes way more sense.
@@Cetra29
I think that very much depends on ones interpretation of Determinism. The universe we live in is, objectively speaking, Determisnitic, preceding events result in observed consequences, to the point this can be perfectly predicted with sufficient data and computational power. Even our own belief in self-determination and consciousness is far different from the truth given that our neurochemistry dictates our behaviour, and said chemistry, the very workings of our material mind, is itself entirely Deterministic and dependent upon not only our biology but our environment during development and during life in general. We simply rationalize what we do in a sense that allows us to believe we acted in a way that the outcome was deliberate and not inevitable.
So depending on how you see Determinism the outcome would either be one of two points, a) the loop has always existed because in a Deterministic universe the events will always happen sans some significant upheaval (which wouldn't really be possible unless you had total control of the system) as it will always reach the same point, someone discovers the means to invert and individual in time and they then cause the very chain of events that lead to the same conclusion, or b) the first loop was a shift to the system and while this influenced the overall Determinism of what is a relatively insignificant point in Space-Time it leads to another stable point that is always going to happen. These are also not mutually exclusive, while this loop might always occur, that does not necessarily mean there was not an initial catalyst to lead to such an outcome.
A system with the same conditions will always produce the same general optimum, a gradual convergence on the same point, without introduction of new variables. Depending on your outlook Tenet is either the result of such an introduction through mastering a fundamental aspect of our reality, or it is an inevitable point that will always occur due to preceding events, but again, those are not mutually exclusive conclusions.
The problem lies in the fact that once you begin a self-sustaining loop within a system, differentiating a causal factor at the beginning of said loop, if there even is one (as it may simply be a natural conclusion of the events preceding it),
I think that the answer would really depend on your interpretation of the universe and if things actually change given that we are, in fact, living in one effectively infinite self-contained system in which the fundamental variables are effectively constant.
Yes, eventually expansion will halt, but if everything "cools down", as we currently believe, into a complete thermodynamic equilibrium the only thing left may, in fact, be random quantum process (because we can't have zero uncertainty even at absolute zero, there will always be some minimal vibrational energy unless Quantum Theory itself is wrong) that perhaps might have resulted in the formation of our own universe (through the gradual accumulation of matter and energy as a result of such processes, though not really currently understood in much detail). If a similar system is created under similar conditions, and things come to pass as it did in our universe, then perhaps this event will always occur. Otherwise, it must be an isolated event within our own instance that is simply self-propagating once initialized.
Nothing in our universe happens without a causal effect, but said causal effect itself is inevitable depending on how you look at the nature of a Deterministic (and self-contained) System. The Big Bang is the ignition factor for our current system, and must have been caused by some preceding system, that cycle itself must have been incepted by another. But fundamentally, there must be some single instance or event that began all of this. The loop itself is the same, it is effectively infinite, and as such the iteration shown in the film is irrelevant (as the difference between 1 and n+1 is not significant), this could be the first loop, it could be the latest one in an infinite series, that really doesn't matter. But some aspect of the system itself established that loop as a part of the process of optimization.
There was a start, somewhere, with something, but that start means nothing aside from establishing the workings of the system itself.
That may have been the point you were getting at with the notion of a cyclical loop and how the Bootstrap Paradox might not apply here, but I think it is quite difficult to ever assume that a cycle is both infinite and constant with no factor to ever initiate that cycle by the very notion of our own minds (humans are very much focused on cause and effect by nature, it's how we survived). Tenets paradox is one of stability, this system is now stable, and as such you cannot see a beginning or an end while within said system. But that doesn't mean there could not have been one.
This feels a little like a ramble on a singular point with no meaning right now, but I hope the point I meant to bring up was actually clear haha.
this damn scene makes me cry literally every time. it's just such a poignant realization
Neil must be that kid. It's probably why he said "See you in the beginning".
No one appreciates this movie but in the future people will understand how good this movie was. I watched it in the theaters for 3 times in 2020.
One of best movies ever and I don't care if no one understand it, it's so beautiful and amazing.
This movie confused the hell out of me and I loved it. I've never smiled so hard at being lost. Weird feeling. But I knew another viewing...and another viewing..etc would unravel it.
Nolan literalizing that feeling where it seems like you've known a person you just met your whole life
Many don't realize what gem of a movie Tenet is. It's simply way ahead of its time. People would probably talk about it after a decade or so and it's definitely gonna be a cult classic, I believe. Yeah, sure it needs a couple of rewatches, but once you understand the plot it's totally gonna blow your mind.
The Prestige is Nolan’s real masterpiece. I hope one day people will talk about that film more
@@TheLevitatingFleem Prestige was a genre bending movie, no doubt about that. But, I don't believe that it was his best creation. I figured out about Christian Bale halfway through the movie. The climax had a nice punch, but there isn't much to ponder about. The idea of time inversion on the other hand was so intriguing for me, that I almost got obsessed over it.
No man. Tenet was a little too over the top and extremely difficult to understand too. Audience had a good experience watching non linear scripts like Inception and Interstellar, but Tenet was a little too much. Except for the action sequences which were spectacular, the movie was not engaging like his other movies. He should stop experimenting with time and focus on storytelling. There are far more important genres than sci-fi.
@@sanjitsiriguppi832 Tenet was essentially a complicated movie- I don't deny that. Like I had mentioned before, it requires a couple of rewatches. Now, the question is why an individual would go through such a hassle, right? The way I see it, Tenet may not be an ideal movie for casual viewers. As of me, I love movies where I can indulge my mind into. Tenet has a very complicated plot, the idea of temporal pincer can be very confusing. Still, it gave us an entirely new idea of time travel, and I believe that it should be appreciated.
Fyi, if you think Tenet was complicated, have you seen Primer by any chance?
@@rayinferno Don't get me wrong. I like complicated scripts. I like time travel or anything to do with time. I just think Nolan has other genres to explore. He's stuck on this bootstrap paradox kinda movies. Dunkirk was really refreshing. But with Tenet he again went back to the same genre. I'm glad he's doing Oppenheimer. There are far too many scripts that need to be explored, I just don't want him doing this same concept again.
The gravity of this dialogue is intense
this is the best scene in the whole movie industry
Nolan aways makes epic scenes
Took me years to finally underatand Inception. Will take me another decade before i understand this one