Yeah that was probably as disturbing as the tackle itself. I slowed it down to 0.25 which is the lowest you can go on UTube and I'm not convinced he had an arm wrapped, which would have made it a no arms tackle and a yellow card offence.
@@catinthehat906 He didn't get his arms all the way round but I can clearly see he did grip onto the guy and attempt to wrap his arms around so it makes it a legal tackle. There has to be an attempt at wrapping the arms but it doesn't have to be successful. Commentator probably shouldn't have cheered at the tackle but it's massive tackles like that which us rugby fans live for, so you can't blame him too much for showing a bit of excitement at a massive tackle, not the injury.
@@catinthehat906 he clearly did attempt to wrap his arms around the ball carrier which you can see in normal speed and 0.25. If you ever tackled someone at a high speed, you'd know that it's not easy to wrap your arms around them
This is why I stopped playing rugby at 15... I was criminally underweight against the Maori and Islander boys I was playing with - they were like adults (we played age, not weight grade)! And when they saw the skinny pakeha kid running I saw them grin and line me up. They enjoyed it alright. Heard a few of my bones break that way, so yeah, this tackle brought me right back to school. If we'd been playing weight grade, I might've enjoyed the game more!
This is why I stopped playing hockey and rugby in high school. Saw a rugby teammate have his face + jaw broken, needed multiple operations and he was never the same dude. Life changed at 14 because of a 'legal tackle.' Saw a Hockey teammate get trucked-through by a 200 lb animal and it fractured his spine, he was left in a wheelchair. Life changed at 15 because of a 'legal check.' I LOVED sports, but from age 14-17ish, these sports stopped feeling like sports and started feeling like deathmatches with mentally unbalanced teens trying to injure each other.
I feel like sports are amazing, but I quit some of these hard sports too. My mate took a hockey ball to the head and it caused fluid to leak onto his brain, I believe it caused permanent damage. After seeing that I thought to myself that it wasn’t worth it. He couldn’t do anything to avoid it either was within 3 meters of him.
@@Frickenawersomeso youre telling me hockey pucks are still small enough to pass thru the face mask or too fast when shot to cause a concussion. Because this is unnervingly scary and i watch a lot of gore stuff
@@carmelobasco3369 I believe they are talking about UK Hockey, played with a stick and rock hard ball, it can be a very dangerous sport at all times, minimal protection is worn mostly just shin and mouth guards. You should google a hockey ball see the size of them
Doesn't sound like you really played Football as you'd know that it would've been legal to hit the last guy that passed the ball just as hard as the runner that got hit. Every player on the field in Football risks getting clocked, not just the ball carrier. All the other players on the field in this video didn't have to have their heads on a swivel because they knew it wasn't legal to knock them into next year.
During practice at college the coach had us do a tackling drill where I unfortunately paired up against a guy built like Mt. Rushmore. I was on defense and hit him just like this video; the difference being that he was unfazed and I felt every joint in my body crack. I did bring him down and was glad to return to the back of the line, only to hear the coach yell my name and hold up 2 fingers; meaning that I had to tackle him twice. Why I chose to tackle him high twice in a row still haunts me. That was the last day I played rugby; no joke. On this topic, the president of my former rugby club was left a quadriplegic from a broken neck during a match.
this is joondalup? thats crazy - my uncle founded them back in 1998 with a few other guys. Neil Tumelty .. dont know if you know him? I played a season for them when i did a year over in perth many years ago.
we've also had a few boys from my club in wales go over and play and theyve sent a few over to us throughout the years. Glen Jessup? Geraint morris? Top boys, they fitted straight in when they came over here. Curious to know if you know any of them! :D
its a tongan truck he actually plays for the bulls seniors and i watch all their games and all the tackles he makes are big ones i have never seen him make a soft tackle
@@ilikefreespeech3565 This is the problem, oversized teenagers are touted as the next big thing every year and the minute they make it to a senior squad that they can't steamroll their skill issues start to show.
@@ivermektin6874 well yea sure. But still, it’s a very physical sport. And there’s always gonna be big fellas out there. Regardless of what they are touted as. So one should be ready for that.
this happened to me once when we played a friendly tournament in france. i was unconscious and when i woke up a few seconds later i first thought I am dead and then a few seconds later i felt pain everywhere and a few more seconds later i passed out again from the pain. Then i woke up again on the sidelines and was dreamy af. I still played rugby after that, but it taught me a valuable lesson to never underestimate an opponent. The guy who "trucked" me, was the same height and just a few kg heavier.
@@SilentHotdog28also the biggest factor the speed someone hits you at. I rather get slow tackled by a big dude then someone who is super quick + medium sized just because of the force
This had to be from NZ. I'm from the UK but lived in Auckland for a few years and used to go watch my cousin play at High School level, and the size and mobility of these guys at age 13, 14, 15 is insane. I remember being in the gym on a Friday night and a bunch of these teenagers were in there casually pressing 40kg dumbells.
Looking at this in slow motion I can see that he decided take contact to draw in the defender to create more attacking space.Brave but that is the risk you take when you do that you might get folded like a camp chair
Yep I’ve done it before mate. I’m not a small guy myself I’m 6 foot 2 and 95kg of lean muscle but this guy was 6 foot 4 or more and easily 120kg. I pretended I was taking it to contact, passed the ball out to the wing which was clear and then boom got absolutely steam rolled. He didn’t attempt to wrap or anything he just shoulder charged me. I still got up straight away before him dizzy as fuck and sprinted straight to the line out to lift as the space allowed the winger to kick it deep into their half. Felt like I’d been hit by a car the day after but I know now that I should have been lower when going into contact instead of standing tall like I had.
@@harryfredrickson660 looked like a friendly game, not sure why the tackler had to go in as hard as he did. They aren't playing for anything other than the fun of the game.
@@brianmacadam4793ref actually gave me a yellow back in high school for pretty much the same tackle.I really didn't understand why but didn't really care, the guy I tackled had pissed me off so bad😂😂😂
Society really has lost it when half the comments are finding reasons to be upset at the tackler for shutting down a set piece move with a good, legal, and very hard tackle. No head involved, makes an attempt to wrap, and doesn’t lead with the shoulder. Also, it’s not his job to render medical aid. I believe that role is filled by the medics, not the players. For everyone condemning the tackler and those who shared the video, go watch soccer and keep it moving! ✌🏾
The ammount of people on here saying it was a hospifal pass holy fk! The man had plenty of time to brace himself or step. Don't mistake this as a hospital pass even if thats where hes going to end up in.
IKR? It's almost two full seconds before he was hit. A lot of time to do plenty but he got pole-axed instead. Inexperience is certainly the risk with young players.
as an ex rugby player of 54 years old who practically lived for games at school..........rugby has a problem..........the intention behind a tackle like this was to seriously hurt the ball carrier..........it could have killed him..........i was on the receiving end of illegal violence on a rugby field........like being charged at & kneed in the leg........no one did anything about it........i also broke someone elses leg completely unintentionally in a tackle.........that was in the seventies at school Russell actually had to limp off by himself to go get some medical help .....his cousin also tried to get me back for this accident........i no longer follow the sport but actually that's more to do with the comraderie or team mate aspect of the sport.......no one i have ever known & practically died for on a rugby pitch has stayed in touch as a friend.........so what was the point in any of it ?........... especially in the modern era when players go & play for any team.........if it's about being strong & fit there are plenty of other activities............but then i also now think there are other violent sports out there that should not happen like cage fighting & stuff like that........this also reminds me of the incident recently of the ice skater that did kill another player by leaping at his throat skates first............i think a tackle like this should at least be called a FOUL because of the clear intention to hurt harm or cause injury to another player.........
You are right, the intention IS to hurt the ball carrier. But "hurt" is not the same as "injure". The idea of hurting him is to put a little bit of fear and a little bit of doubt on his mind, so that he hesitates or freezes or is a bit slower on the next play, which gives your team an advantage. In my playing days, there were a few animals who deliberately tried to injure people, but they didn't last long at all. Typically they got sorted out by their own teammates. The vast majority were there to play, hard but fair, and have a beer after with the oppo you'd just been knocking seven bells out of. Good times.
Giving the other restrictions now on tackling I’d argue the tackle was not controlled. Happy to agree it was legal, but it happens at such rapid pace it is hard to see whether the defender arms were wrapped around attacker, was there defender head contact to the attacking player, etc. These sort of tackles end careers and have long term consequences.
You're right about these sort of tackles potentially ending careers and having long term consequences. However this game is not for everyone and you play accepting this could potentially happen to you. It was a wonderful hit. It is also character building if the tackled player bounces back and plays on or comes back next week and has another go. Physical intimidation, skill, fitness, strength and controlled violence are a few of the many qualitites that makes this game great. There are plenty of non-contact sports out there as alternatives if you don't like this.
if you play the video at quarter speed, (which you can do with Premium) the tackler actually uses his head and pile-drives the rib cage of the tackled player. The arms wrap afterwards so it was an illegal tackle but very hard to see in real time. When you have such weight disparity it's very difficult. I think rugby will end up having to go to waist high tackles only which I find a shame. I played for 30 years and loved it but I am steering my son away from it now and getting him to play soccer.
Interesting and well thought out cases argued in above responses. I played a regional first grade level of Rugby for nearly a decade. I never suffered a concussion and saw plenty of hard tackles, but nothing like this. Most people take the risk, but the game has evolved to protect players, and that’s a good thing 👍
Played rugby once in school trials when I was thirteen because the coach encouraged me. Sprained some guys wrist with a tackle. As much as I liked contact sports I never fucked with rugby.
Think he got winded from a direct blow on the solar plexus and probably neck whip lash from the high impact.... was already out cold even before his face hits the ground. This is where my coach used to ask us to hit at full force with our shoulders into the solar plexus when the opponent exposes his solar plexus for a tackle....... Hope he is ok.
Have been hit so hard there that I had spasms and couldn't move at all for 20 seconds or so. I presume something similar for this lad. I was definitely lying motionless on the ground like that but fully conscious with shallow wheezing. Slowly my breath came back tho.
@@mortuc1In all sports you can get severely injured, All Rugby Coaches say "hit your opponents hard" So when people play rugby everyone is cruising for a bruising.
@@reinach77 After the hit he landed on the player, so he may have wrapped his arms around him, he may not. It all happened so fast that even in slow motion, you cannot tell!!
Rugby is a beautiful game, until you get hit in the chest and can't breathe , and your teammates screaming at you to get up and you try but you got the wind hit out of you, your in deep pain ... That experience happened to me and i eventually got up ( by the help of paramedics)..Continued playing the whole game trying to avoid getting the ball again or getting myself in any form of tackles... I Quit Rugby after that game or a few games after.. Never regretted it ...I was good at Soccer and Athletics (first in my school).... Rugby is for the really tough guys man who can take pain over and over again and still love the game... Some of us are just not build that way... That is why we have Soccer and Atheltics, tennis, cricket , hockey etc...
It’s things like this that adds to the head trauma being felt in later years. There is a reason why full contact sports spits out debilitating and life ending head injuries that show up later. I’m not a rugby hater, I played senior rugby till 40 years old, but the medical proof of damage is there. Don’t let your kids play this sport.
For every player sitting later bemoaning their head trauma there are ten thousand with their happy memories. You can eliminate all childhood injuries if you are restrictive enough. Be aware of what extra consequences that will entail.
@@luisarevalo5409 If your thinking is so binary that you consider all head trauma = being a vegetable then there is no point in trying to have any sort of debate or conversation.
@@Hereford1642 I was obviously talking about the latest cases that are now taking the rugby fraternity to court but I can see this conversation is going to end up going around and around. Just keep playing the sport and encourage your relatives to play the sport. I actually don't care what you do. I will continue to discourage people I know in playing rugby.
@@luisarevalo5409 Just because you're a washed up has been, it doesn't mean the sport should be avoided. If you got your weight up, you wouldn't have the "head trauma" you had today.
Dam that's one of those....When you get hit you stay hit. That is one hell of a tackle and a good one, hope the guy who was knocked sparko was ok after.
Mate, his head hit the ground right at the end after the side of his body took the grounds impact. His head whiplashed which is what I think caused him to suffer the concussion
Yeah I played secondary school and for a club. My year group had at least 5 broken collar bones across the 6 or so years, one guy twice after 2 years out :/
In my experience, collar bones not so much. Ribs, yes. Fingers, yes. Arms and wrists, yes. Noses, yes, yes, and yes. Legs, occasionally. I only know of one collar bone break from my playing days.
Some guys are treating rugby for what it is, a sport. Others are treating it like some game of life and death. Legal tackle is still reckless and getting things only slightly wrong in such high speed collisions could be fatal.
@@doofernz The game deserves to fade away. At the top level there's an obsession with penalties that chokes out the true meaning of the game (running and scoring try's). The teams have too many players for it to ever be an economical sport to run, the injury rate is magnitudes higher than other sports (even concussions in rugby are 3x more likely than Gridiron), the rules are largely nonsensical and hard to understand (often subject to referee interpretation which decides games). There are no crowds in super rugby anymore, rich European clubs simply buy out the young talent for themselves. The code is on the verge of being semi-professional.
A friend of my son said to me a while back - ' I like playing rugby. I like clattering people ....... And I like being clattered too. ' . And that is it. Some people just love the rough and tumble and some people don't. Ok, don't make it compulsory if kids don't like it but don't ban it either.
@@Hereford1642 Difference is when you are a kid/non competitive and their are multiple levels playing in the same game... The kid who is fully developed is going to mess the kids up who are not. Common sense really
@@Hereford1642 I think a lot of people who play rugby feel like that until they get *really* clattered like this. It's a bit like boxing - so long as people aren't too mismatched it can be a lot of fun, but when you're out of your depth it can be a very painful and lonely experience. With kids and teenagers it's important that responsible adults don't allow this kind of thing to happen, or it just destroys any interest in playing what can be a very fun sport.
@@Hereford1642 oh I wasn't saying you were, but I think the idea "I like clattering people ... I like being clattered" only works when it's a fair matchup. Those lads who've said that to you probably wouldn't enjoy being clattered by a Tuilagi for example. They'd be broken. That was my point. It's all relative.
I agree, what’s wrong with today’s society where people have become so soft they get upset by a play-by-play guy do his job well & appreciating a big hit.
'what is wrong with people nowadays?' i personally think social media has encouraged people to pretend they are saints with unending compassion, this in turn is causing folks to constantly signal their pretend virtue looking for acceptance from other pretend saints...its got to the point where people commentating on low level rugby matches are being shamed for having a natural reaction to a big hit, no doubt that commentator has played the game and knows what its like to be legally smashed like that and gave out a chuckle of solidarity and reminiscence, lets face it none of us know that player personally, he chose to play rugby and as long as hes not dead there is no wrong reaction to the hit
Most tackles in 'football' are shoves and pushes. They don't tackle for shit lol. Maybe a handful of hits in a whole game that are hard like this and they're only so hard because players feel safe in their helmets. Without protection the hits would be a lot softer (see CTE research on the subject, helmets improve, injuries don't decrease).
Similar experience in UK. I was 5 foot 6 hooker…got lifted of my feet by my props in the scrum, got targeted by big six foot forwards when I got the ball as was easy meat. But you can take the big guys down if you know what to go for. You often get them to leave you alone after that…..but you get sent off a lot too. Ah well , it’s only a game eh….
He obviously wasn't taught the dodge before ball.He at least took 2-3 fwd steps which is enough to shift him sideways to dodge that tackle-but that comes through experience ,awareness and instinct.hope he is ok.
Never heard of doge before ball and played rugby all my life? Do you mean to plan what line your going to run before you receive the ball kinda thing? Cause just stepping laterally with no ball as you are running support line sounds stupid This sounds like some old forgotten saying that was used in a time when people didn’t know how to articulate there ideas very well
@@davidhall6452 Dodge before ball : if you get the ball, you are the target. So judge where to go before how to pass it on. And when about to get slammed, a sidestep, hips turn, or at least letting your body loose make the shock much less dangerous. But this boy is too inexperienced, and his opponent an arrogant bully - he needed speed, but could avoid making the shock so frontal, and still stop the movement.
ok bro any of you can say this from watching a birds eye video clip over and over. doubt any of you have ever stepped on the field. you are never going to see the hit coming 100% of the time
That is not a legal tackle. He does not wrap. That's a shoulder charge, a red card offense. Lots of people will reply "but he attempted to wrap!". I guarantee that he can try this tackle 100 times, he will never wrap. This is why rugby is dying. I am shocked that people can look at this and say that it's a beautiful rugby play. Maybe this kid is OK. The next one will have to stay on a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
If the ball goes forward, then it is called a knock-on, and the team that was defending gets the ball for a scrum. If the ball is "fumbled" (lost out of the hands), but does not go forwards, it is free play and anyone's ball who can grab it first. Hope that helps.
If any of you rugbyheads on this thread doubt that your NFL concussion moment is on the cards, you're wrong. Besides, legal (and why is it) or not, a game where your objective is to smash the crap out of your fellow man seems somewhat _barbaric_.
Generally when someone goes down like that the ref goes to his pocket. Maybe it's a country specific thing. You just don't see big hits like that in the English Premiership going unpunished
At least soccer is a sport for those with technical,athletic and skill not this piggery that's rugby,rugby is for those who can't play soccer-too fat,awkward,slow and thick. Great the two sports can accommodate these type of players. Typical of rugby people always having a go at soccer but rugby will never surpass it as the world's most popular and premier sport.
@@oliver69cork46 Just because soccer had the privilege of attracting the most people and generating the most revenue and thus attracting capitalism doesn't mean that rugby is less relevant. Also the comment about rugby players shows how simple minded you are.
I play pickleball with fellow OAPs ….we had a new player join us recently about 70 years old who has two artificial shoulders and an artificial knee all courtesy of Rugby injuries from his School days.😳
Cheap shot, legal or not. A shoulder to someone’s liver at full speed is a dick move. The receiver will be keeping his head up after that one, assuming he survived, and was eventually up and running again.
liver? The tacklers head is in the guys armpit as his shoulder slams into the victims chest. Considering the shoulder is party of the arm, that's simply a high tackle and should've been penalised as such.
eesh. My boy in the stripes gets whiplashed forwards then his head smacks on the pitch. Out go the lights. Had a few of those. Can't help but assign a little bit of responsibility to him and his coach though. He sees the tackler then takes his eyes off him to attempt a pass. So he's not braced at all at impact and gets rag-dolled.
9 - 13 A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. If anybody looks at that tackle and believes it is not dangerous. They're fool.
A far better alternative to WAR no matter what the global rugby and health boards say about the head injuries. It is far more ideal that nations settle their differences on the rugby field than in the killing fields.
Rugby was not a game that was designed with the body composition of Pacific Islanders in mind. The hit was (probably) within the rules of the game. The height was fine. Different people will have different interpretations on exactly where on the controlled wrap/shoulder charge spectrum the tackle was. It doesn't change the fact that hits like that are fucking dangerous, and if Union keeps allowing them - the sport is going to die in the arse. No sane parent is gonna want their kid to be lined up like that. A thugs game only works if everyone is prepared to be a gentleman.
Just awful and people enjoy this type of tackle as theyd call it,more like assault! No wonder rugby numbers are going down,would parents like to see their sons or daughters suffer this? Its brutality. Hope that guy was ok.
That kid was 17 at the time asked to play 1st grade rugby. No matter how good you think you are, and no matter how much your team "needs" you don't pay senior rugby until you are a senior.
“Oh ho ho ho ho!” The announcer goes wild as the guy lays there semi-conscious.
Yeah that was probably as disturbing as the tackle itself. I slowed it down to 0.25 which is the lowest you can go on UTube and I'm not convinced he had an arm wrapped, which would have made it a no arms tackle and a yellow card offence.
@@catinthehat906 He didn't get his arms all the way round but I can clearly see he did grip onto the guy and attempt to wrap his arms around so it makes it a legal tackle. There has to be an attempt at wrapping the arms but it doesn't have to be successful. Commentator probably shouldn't have cheered at the tackle but it's massive tackles like that which us rugby fans live for, so you can't blame him too much for showing a bit of excitement at a massive tackle, not the injury.
@@catinthehat906 he clearly did attempt to wrap his arms around the ball carrier which you can see in normal speed and 0.25. If you ever tackled someone at a high speed, you'd know that it's not easy to wrap your arms around them
@@catinthehat906 Plus. what was the weight gradings for the teams?
Fatties against skinnies is not rugby
@@HamishBanish Most comps aren't split by weight, they are split by age.
This is why I stopped playing rugby at 15... I was criminally underweight against the Maori and Islander boys I was playing with - they were like adults (we played age, not weight grade)! And when they saw the skinny pakeha kid running I saw them grin and line me up. They enjoyed it alright. Heard a few of my bones break that way, so yeah, this tackle brought me right back to school. If we'd been playing weight grade, I might've enjoyed the game more!
As a kid, I played weight grade at school in NZ. Under 55kg, U65kg then U75kg. Then moved onto open grade. It's a far better experience.
That's why many parents don't want their kids to play rugby
Under Weight grade sounds great, didn't even know it was a thing. Wish we had that in SA.
Jacob I’m Maori and I also was skinny and small I know my own people hurt me on purpose 🤣
As a junior playing in senior grade I learnt how to use my eyes and side step.
This is why I stopped playing hockey and rugby in high school.
Saw a rugby teammate have his face + jaw broken, needed multiple operations and he was never the same dude. Life changed at 14 because of a 'legal tackle.'
Saw a Hockey teammate get trucked-through by a 200 lb animal and it fractured his spine, he was left in a wheelchair. Life changed at 15 because of a 'legal check.'
I LOVED sports, but from age 14-17ish, these sports stopped feeling like sports and started feeling like deathmatches with mentally unbalanced teens trying to injure each other.
I feel like sports are amazing, but I quit some of these hard sports too. My mate took a hockey ball to the head and it caused fluid to leak onto his brain, I believe it caused permanent damage. After seeing that I thought to myself that it wasn’t worth it. He couldn’t do anything to avoid it either was within 3 meters of him.
@@Frickenawersomeso youre telling me hockey pucks are still small enough to pass thru the face mask or too fast when shot to cause a concussion.
Because this is unnervingly scary and i watch a lot of gore stuff
@@carmelobasco3369 I believe they are talking about UK Hockey, played with a stick and rock hard ball, it can be a very dangerous sport at all times, minimal protection is worn mostly just shin and mouth guards. You should google a hockey ball see the size of them
@@carmelobasco3369I guess it wasn't ice hockey. Balls are used in field hockey and players do not wear helmets in that sport.
200lbs "kids" should not be allowed to play in a league with 15 year olds
no matter how you look at it, that is a lot of physical toll to take for the result of one posession in one game.
I played American football for years and my coaches would always say “Head on a swivel.” Then I played rugby. Head on a swivel-times three.
Did you find the contact alot harder in rugby?
Doesn't sound like you really played Football as you'd know that it would've been legal to hit the last guy that passed the ball just as hard as the runner that got hit. Every player on the field in Football risks getting clocked, not just the ball carrier. All the other players on the field in this video didn't have to have their heads on a swivel because they knew it wasn't legal to knock them into next year.
@@jongordon7914😢 my sport is tougher !! 😢
@@D0rlisok You're an obvious 🤡
Both you and the OP are saying the 100m sprint takes more endurance than the 1500m, which is what makes you a 🤡
@@D0rlisok Exactly...
During practice at college the coach had us do a tackling drill where I unfortunately paired up against a guy built like Mt. Rushmore. I was on defense and hit him just like this video; the difference being that he was unfazed and I felt every joint in my body crack. I did bring him down and was glad to return to the back of the line, only to hear the coach yell my name and hold up 2 fingers; meaning that I had to tackle him twice.
Why I chose to tackle him high twice in a row still haunts me. That was the last day I played rugby; no joke.
On this topic, the president of my former rugby club was left a quadriplegic from a broken neck during a match.
you can't hear it but it's there - the sound of air rushing out of his lungs
This is from my club! Joondalup Brothers RUFC in Western Aus. I recognise the wall in background lol.
this is joondalup? thats crazy - my uncle founded them back in 1998 with a few other guys. Neil Tumelty .. dont know if you know him? I played a season for them when i did a year over in perth many years ago.
we've also had a few boys from my club in wales go over and play and theyve sent a few over to us throughout the years. Glen Jessup? Geraint morris? Top boys, they fitted straight in when they came over here. Curious to know if you know any of them! :D
Did anyone get the number plate of that truck?
Hope he’s okay !
Giggidy
its a tongan truck he actually plays for the bulls seniors and i watch all their games and all the tackles he makes are big ones i have never seen him make a soft tackle
Back in my day our coach would run on with the magic water. Heals everything
Geeze I think I need a sip of magic water after seeing that tackle! 🤣
We had the magic sponge bucket that evolved into the magic spray bottles.
... Get some water on!
Oranges at half time
It wasn't the water ... it was the Magic Sponge. The Magic Sponge could sock up pain and heal injury. God Bless the Magic
Clear example of why nations that don't implement weight grading perform drastically worse thant the ones that do.
Complete nonsense. There is no weight grading in South African rugby.
Yeah, because you country is on the brink of extinction lol
If you’re too small, or not strong enough. Please don’t play.
@@ilikefreespeech3565 This is the problem, oversized teenagers are touted as the next big thing every year and the minute they make it to a senior squad that they can't steamroll their skill issues start to show.
@@ivermektin6874 well yea sure. But still, it’s a very physical sport. And there’s always gonna be big fellas out there. Regardless of what they are touted as. So one should be ready for that.
this happened to me once when we played a friendly tournament in france. i was unconscious and when i woke up a few seconds later i first thought I am dead and then a few seconds later i felt pain everywhere and a few more seconds later i passed out again from the pain. Then i woke up again on the sidelines and was dreamy af. I still played rugby after that, but it taught me a valuable lesson to never underestimate an opponent. The guy who "trucked" me, was the same height and just a few kg heavier.
You can get trucked by someone 20kg lighter....All they need is to hit you with the right technique and at the right angle.
The hit put you out!? Was it a send off?
This is why you just play touch instead. This is freaking stupid.
@@SilentHotdog28also the biggest factor the speed someone hits you at. I rather get slow tackled by a big dude then someone who is super quick + medium sized just because of the force
This had to be from NZ. I'm from the UK but lived in Auckland for a few years and used to go watch my cousin play at High School level, and the size and mobility of these guys at age 13, 14, 15 is insane. I remember being in the gym on a Friday night and a bunch of these teenagers were in there casually pressing 40kg dumbells.
This is actually from Perth, Western Australia. Clubs playing are Rockingham (purple) and Joondalup (white).
I love the way you chuckle as he lies there not moving.
The tackler was winded also 😂 tried his best to hide it.
Yeah, I noticed he headed straight off
Looking at this in slow motion I can see that he decided take contact to draw in the defender to create more attacking space.Brave but that is the risk you take when you do that you might get folded like a camp chair
Yep I’ve done it before mate. I’m not a small guy myself I’m 6 foot 2 and 95kg of lean muscle but this guy was 6 foot 4 or more and easily 120kg. I pretended I was taking it to contact, passed the ball out to the wing which was clear and then boom got absolutely steam rolled. He didn’t attempt to wrap or anything he just shoulder charged me. I still got up straight away before him dizzy as fuck and sprinted straight to the line out to lift as the space allowed the winger to kick it deep into their half. Felt like I’d been hit by a car the day after but I know now that I should have been lower when going into contact instead of standing tall like I had.
You might say legal and it may well be but the tackler certainly intended to do harm
It’s a contact sport for a reason
@@harryfredrickson660 looked like a friendly game, not sure why the tackler had to go in as hard as he did. They aren't playing for anything other than the fun of the game.
borderline legal, I'd give a yellow card and maybe a red
@@brianmacadam4793ref actually gave me a yellow back in high school for pretty much the same tackle.I really didn't understand why but didn't really care, the guy I tackled had pissed me off so bad😂😂😂
@@cryofthespiritrevivalministrywhy what he do ? 😂
Society really has lost it when half the comments are finding reasons to be upset at the tackler for shutting down a set piece move with a good, legal, and very hard tackle. No head involved, makes an attempt to wrap, and doesn’t lead with the shoulder.
Also, it’s not his job to render medical aid. I believe that role is filled by the medics, not the players. For everyone condemning the tackler and those who shared the video, go watch soccer and keep it moving! ✌🏾
You had me till soccer
Most tackles is led with the shoulder. But your go watch soccer comment 😆 what a hero
On the contrary. When we cant control ourselves and celebrate it, that's when we have lost it
@@Alexander-zg5sx that’s fair haha
There's no need to go that hard though is there.
If this was in the WWF, good old JR would have said " Oh my God he's broken in half"
Human rubble
Except this is real.
that tackler runs away without showing any care of the impact of that shot......humanity shame
That was legal but it wasn't right.
The ammount of people on here saying it was a hospifal pass holy fk! The man had plenty of time to brace himself or step. Don't mistake this as a hospital pass even if thats where hes going to end up in.
IKR? It's almost two full seconds before he was hit. A lot of time to do plenty but he got pole-axed instead. Inexperience is certainly the risk with young players.
Absolutely smashed into next week 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 commentators have no chill bra
I've not read all the comments below, but I used to referee and in my opinion the tackler didn't wrap his arms.
I had to slow it down to 0.25x but that did show the right arm wrapped
@@benchgoblin shows how difficult it is for referees.
as an ex rugby player of 54 years old who practically lived for games at school..........rugby has a problem..........the intention behind a tackle like this was to seriously hurt the ball carrier..........it could have killed him..........i was on the receiving end of illegal violence on a rugby field........like being charged at & kneed in the leg........no one did anything about it........i also broke someone elses leg completely unintentionally in a tackle.........that was in the seventies at school Russell actually had to limp off by himself to go get some medical help .....his cousin also tried to get me back for this accident........i no longer follow the sport but actually that's more to do with the comraderie or team mate aspect of the sport.......no one i have ever known & practically died for on a rugby pitch has stayed in touch as a friend.........so what was the point in any of it ?........... especially in the modern era when players go & play for any team.........if it's about being strong & fit there are plenty of other activities............but then i also now think there are other violent sports out there that should not happen like cage fighting & stuff like that........this also reminds me of the incident recently of the ice skater that did kill another player by leaping at his throat skates first............i think a tackle like this should at least be called a FOUL because of the clear intention to hurt harm or cause injury to another player.........
Rubbish!
You are right, the intention IS to hurt the ball carrier. But "hurt" is not the same as "injure". The idea of hurting him is to put a little bit of fear and a little bit of doubt on his mind, so that he hesitates or freezes or is a bit slower on the next play, which gives your team an advantage.
In my playing days, there were a few animals who deliberately tried to injure people, but they didn't last long at all. Typically they got sorted out by their own teammates. The vast majority were there to play, hard but fair, and have a beer after with the oppo you'd just been knocking seven bells out of. Good times.
tough, thats how a physcial contact sport works, u think people complain when playing the Bokkas pack?? even tho the same applies
It should called a crime not just a foul. Gbh at the least reckless endangerment, manslaughter. How would that be a legal tackle.
@@interestedbystander196 exactly.
Bloke had years shaved off his life.
What a hit son well done, speedy recovery to the centre. love the game and it's legal violence
Preach! 🙌🏼
It's not more than dumb
Organised sports are so fascist, it makes me sick 😉
the 2 watched the defender get a full vertical sprint right into his target 3, he should’ve skipped it or took it in. hospital pass
U wouldn't like if u were on the end of it 😂
Very Legal and VERY Hard tackle 👏👏👏
Fuck that was like watching someone get hit by a car
You can play this at 0.25 speed and the neck still whips almost instantly.
ouch mid pass too, thats a whole shoulder to the ribcage oof
Commentator wouldn't be that happy/excited if it was his son who had been tackled.
Giving the other restrictions now on tackling I’d argue the tackle was not controlled. Happy to agree it was legal, but it happens at such rapid pace it is hard to see whether the defender arms were wrapped around attacker, was there defender head contact to the attacking player, etc. These sort of tackles end careers and have long term consequences.
You're right about these sort of tackles potentially ending careers and having long term consequences. However this game is not for everyone and you play accepting this could potentially happen to you. It was a wonderful hit. It is also character building if the tackled player bounces back and plays on or comes back next week and has another go. Physical intimidation, skill, fitness, strength and controlled violence are a few of the many qualitites that makes this game great. There are plenty of non-contact sports out there as alternatives if you don't like this.
@@SioneDunkI’m not sure he was disagreeing with you on any of that.
you can the attackers right arm around him if u pause it.... it is so quick though...
if you play the video at quarter speed, (which you can do with Premium) the tackler actually uses his head and pile-drives the rib cage of the tackled player. The arms wrap afterwards so it was an illegal tackle but very hard to see in real time. When you have such weight disparity it's very difficult. I think rugby will end up having to go to waist high tackles only which I find a shame.
I played for 30 years and loved it but I am steering my son away from it now and getting him to play soccer.
Interesting and well thought out cases argued in above responses. I played a regional first grade level of Rugby for nearly a decade. I never suffered a concussion and saw plenty of hard tackles, but nothing like this. Most people take the risk, but the game has evolved to protect players, and that’s a good thing 👍
How anyone cant just call this as fucking stupid is beyond me.
how so?
The real definition of "Holy shit!!!" I think I felt that from hear...
Played rugby once in school trials when I was thirteen because the coach encouraged me. Sprained some guys wrist with a tackle. As much as I liked contact sports I never fucked with rugby.
This is great. Love from Scotland.
This is beautiful! i've only watched this like 50x times
Think he got winded from a direct blow on the solar plexus and probably neck whip lash from the high impact.... was already out cold even before his face hits the ground. This is where my coach used to ask us to hit at full force with our shoulders into the solar plexus when the opponent exposes his solar plexus for a tackle....... Hope he is ok.
Do 😂your homework on the solar plexus organ very powerful 🎉 organ for self development
Have been hit so hard there that I had spasms and couldn't move at all for 20 seconds or so. I presume something similar for this lad. I was definitely lying motionless on the ground like that but fully conscious with shallow wheezing. Slowly my breath came back tho.
So... Your coach is literally asking you to severely injure opponents? Wtf
@@mortuc1In all sports you can get severely injured, All Rugby Coaches say "hit your opponents hard" So when people play rugby everyone is cruising for a bruising.
That announcer was so gleeful with that hit. Wonder if that guy ever played rugby ever again. Quite the smashing hit
How is this a legal tackle when there was no attempt to wrap? It looked like a full on shoulder hit.
there was a wrap. you can see that in the way that they both fall together
You should look better. He wrapped his arms.
@@reinach77 After the hit he landed on the player, so he may have wrapped his arms around him, he may not. It all happened so fast that even in slow motion, you cannot tell!!
watch it in slow motion. Arms are wrapped perfectly. It was a perfect tackle.
@@ModernWisdumb I have watched it in Slow Motion. It's not clear.
If this was du Plessis on Dan Carter, well, everyone knows youre not allowed to tackled Carter: card
Rugby is a beautiful game, until you get hit in the chest and can't breathe , and your teammates screaming at you to get up and you try but you got the wind hit out of you, your in deep pain ... That experience happened to me and i eventually got up ( by the help of paramedics)..Continued playing the whole game trying to avoid getting the ball again or getting myself in any form of tackles...
I Quit Rugby after that game or a few games after.. Never regretted it ...I was good at Soccer and Athletics (first in my school).... Rugby is for the really tough guys man who can take pain over and over again and still love the game... Some of us are just not build that way... That is why we have Soccer and Atheltics, tennis, cricket , hockey etc...
Wow don’t know what’s worse, backline not reading the defence with a 10metre head start or the injury. Wow
Yep it was pretty laboured and telegraphed along that backline move
Good defensive read, though.
It’s things like this that adds to the head trauma being felt in later years.
There is a reason why full contact sports spits out debilitating and life ending head injuries that show up later.
I’m not a rugby hater, I played senior rugby till 40 years old, but the medical proof of damage is there.
Don’t let your kids play this sport.
For every player sitting later bemoaning their head trauma there are ten thousand with their happy memories. You can eliminate all childhood injuries if you are restrictive enough. Be aware of what extra consequences that will entail.
@@Hereford1642 No one 'bemoans' head trauma. They just end up vegetables
@@luisarevalo5409 If your thinking is so binary that you consider all head trauma = being a vegetable then there is no point in trying to have any sort of debate or conversation.
@@Hereford1642 I was obviously talking about the latest cases that are now taking the rugby fraternity to court but I can see this conversation is going to end up going around and around. Just keep playing the sport and encourage your relatives to play the sport. I actually don't care what you do. I will continue to discourage people I know in playing rugby.
@@luisarevalo5409 Just because you're a washed up has been, it doesn't mean the sport should be avoided. If you got your weight up, you wouldn't have the "head trauma" you had today.
Dam that's one of those....When you get hit you stay hit.
That is one hell of a tackle and a good one, hope the guy who was knocked sparko was ok after.
@craig3613what's wrong with it? He tackled low, the tackle started when the opponent had the ball, he attempted to wrap (slow it down)...
No arms. This is forbiden now. It's hitting, not tackling. Try that on an international rugby field.
Hit was legal. He got concussed cause he hit his head hard on the ground on his way down. Absolute shocker of a hit! Rugby is brutal.
No he didn't
Mate, his head hit the ground right at the end after the side of his body took the grounds impact. His head whiplashed which is what I think caused him to suffer the concussion
@@1FLAYKO oh ok. Well either way. Clean tackle. Hahahha
@@DrayDrayn agreed
Brilliant hit
Americans 🇺🇸
" Where's the helmets and armour?"
Don’t know much about rugby but I can assume concussions and broken collar bones are a fairly common part of the sport
Yeah I played secondary school and for a club. My year group had at least 5 broken collar bones across the 6 or so years, one guy twice after 2 years out :/
In my experience, collar bones not so much. Ribs, yes. Fingers, yes. Arms and wrists, yes. Noses, yes, yes, and yes. Legs, occasionally. I only know of one collar bone break from my playing days.
I know somebody who had over 5 concussions over the time I knew him, he got badly injured every game he played.
What's the pen for!?
Some guys are treating rugby for what it is, a sport.
Others are treating it like some game of life and death.
Legal tackle is still reckless and getting things only slightly wrong in such high speed collisions could be fatal.
The game is going to be in big trouble in the next 5-10 years with lawsuits. Commentators like this will be part of the cause.
@@doofernz The game deserves to fade away.
At the top level there's an obsession with penalties that chokes out the true meaning of the game (running and scoring try's).
The teams have too many players for it to ever be an economical sport to run, the injury rate is magnitudes higher than other sports (even concussions in rugby are 3x more likely than Gridiron), the rules are largely nonsensical and hard to understand (often subject to referee interpretation which decides games).
There are no crowds in super rugby anymore, rich European clubs simply buy out the young talent for themselves.
The code is on the verge of being semi-professional.
0:09 SPEAR!!!
I think for non professional leagues they rly need to make the game less violent and less likely to injure or it’s not gonna grow
A friend of my son said to me a while back - ' I like playing rugby. I like clattering people ....... And I like being clattered too. ' . And that is it. Some people just love the rough and tumble and some people don't. Ok, don't make it compulsory if kids don't like it but don't ban it either.
@@Hereford1642 Difference is when you are a kid/non competitive and their are multiple levels playing in the same game... The kid who is fully developed is going to mess the kids up who are not. Common sense really
@@Hereford1642 I think a lot of people who play rugby feel like that until they get *really* clattered like this. It's a bit like boxing - so long as people aren't too mismatched it can be a lot of fun, but when you're out of your depth it can be a very painful and lonely experience. With kids and teenagers it's important that responsible adults don't allow this kind of thing to happen, or it just destroys any interest in playing what can be a very fun sport.
@@andyw9255 I am not sure who is advocating for large physical mismatches. I don't think it was me.
@@Hereford1642 oh I wasn't saying you were, but I think the idea "I like clattering people ... I like being clattered" only works when it's a fair matchup. Those lads who've said that to you probably wouldn't enjoy being clattered by a Tuilagi for example. They'd be broken. That was my point. It's all relative.
The announcer laughing when a guy gets seriously hurt is disturbing weather it's a "sport" or not. WTF is wrong with people nowadays?
I agree, what’s wrong with today’s society where people have become so soft they get upset by a play-by-play guy do his job well & appreciating a big hit.
'what is wrong with people nowadays?'
i personally think social media has encouraged people to pretend they are saints with unending compassion, this in turn is causing folks to constantly signal their pretend virtue looking for acceptance from other pretend saints...its got to the point where people commentating on low level rugby matches are being shamed for having a natural reaction to a big hit, no doubt that commentator has played the game and knows what its like to be legally smashed like that and gave out a chuckle of solidarity and reminiscence, lets face it none of us know that player personally, he chose to play rugby and as long as hes not dead there is no wrong reaction to the hit
you are a softie
You're the problem😋 cupcake. Stop trying to efeminate out young men.
This is beautiful rygby, virile but correct
In other words, an example showing why I would never play this sport - f that!
jesus, the whiplash from that tackle alone would've given him a concussion!
Pretty good hit. This is like every play in football. Without pads it'd look like Normandy beach
Most tackles in 'football' are shoves and pushes. They don't tackle for shit lol. Maybe a handful of hits in a whole game that are hard like this and they're only so hard because players feel safe in their helmets. Without protection the hits would be a lot softer (see CTE research on the subject, helmets improve, injuries don't decrease).
@@noodlesthe1st every play is people smashing into each other wtf game are you watching?
I felt that from the other side of the world.
*A player almost dies by the tackle* Commentators: "Wohoho Absolutely smash that legal tackle! *players continue on with their thing*.
as it should be
As he lays there bearly conscious thinking what sport tontake up next
Mix of football and soccer
Quality is too low to tell, but I don’t see any wrapping. Could be an illegal shoulder charge
Similar experience in UK. I was 5 foot 6 hooker…got lifted of my feet by my props in the scrum, got targeted by big six foot forwards when I got the ball as was easy meat. But you can take the big guys down if you know what to go for. You often get them to leave you alone after that…..but you get sent off a lot too. Ah well , it’s only a game eh….
And they say American football hit harder than rugby what a lot of rubbish
nah its true
He obviously wasn't taught the dodge before ball.He at least took 2-3 fwd steps which is enough to shift him sideways to dodge that tackle-but that comes through experience ,awareness and instinct.hope he is ok.
Never heard of doge before ball and played rugby all my life?
Do you mean to plan what line your going to run before you receive the ball kinda thing? Cause just stepping laterally with no ball as you are running support line sounds stupid
This sounds like some old forgotten saying that was used in a time when people didn’t know how to articulate there ideas very well
I don’t understand anything you just said.
@@EB-mc6xc 😂😂
@@davidhall6452 Dodge before ball : if you get the ball, you are the target. So judge where to go before how to pass it on. And when about to get slammed, a sidestep, hips turn, or at least letting your body loose make the shock much less dangerous. But this boy is too inexperienced, and his opponent an arrogant bully - he needed speed, but could avoid making the shock so frontal, and still stop the movement.
ok bro any of you can say this from watching a birds eye video clip over and over. doubt any of you have ever stepped on the field. you are never going to see the hit coming 100% of the time
That is not a legal tackle. He does not wrap. That's a shoulder charge, a red card offense.
Lots of people will reply "but he attempted to wrap!". I guarantee that he can try this tackle 100 times, he will never wrap.
This is why rugby is dying. I am shocked that people can look at this and say that it's a beautiful rugby play. Maybe this kid is OK. The next one will have to stay on a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
I suggest you pause it on 0.09 - you can clearly see the tackler's arm around the waist of the guy being tackled.
@@gargk999 You don't know what wrapping means.
This is my rugby club the blue and white is joundalup brothers
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It's legal, and it's also a dog shot
Not legal leg with thee shoulder didn’t wrap arms so clearly going into hurt the opponent and not try to stop or slow down play but yeah good hit
OH MY GOD HE WAS GOING LIKE A BULLET BRO
Dude, what a hit, ouch
What call when ball is knocked loose? Is it also called fumble?
If the ball goes forward, then it is called a knock-on, and the team that was defending gets the ball for a scrum.
If the ball is "fumbled" (lost out of the hands), but does not go forwards, it is free play and anyone's ball who can grab it first.
Hope that helps.
Wow what a hit ,hello cement truck
If any of you rugbyheads on this thread doubt that your NFL concussion moment is on the cards, you're wrong. Besides, legal (and why is it) or not, a game where your objective is to smash the crap out of your fellow man seems somewhat _barbaric_.
@@colinirvine3576 Most kids are. Rugby will be a very niche sport in 20 years time
Generally when someone goes down like that the ref goes to his pocket. Maybe it's a country specific thing. You just don't see big hits like that in the English Premiership going unpunished
Soccer players would straight up die from that tackle.
They’d die just watching the video!
At least soccer is a sport for those with technical,athletic and skill not this piggery that's rugby,rugby is for those who can't play soccer-too fat,awkward,slow and thick. Great the two sports can accommodate these type of players. Typical of rugby people always having a go at soccer but rugby will never surpass it as the world's most popular and premier sport.
@@oliver69cork46 yeah soccer players are so clever
@@DayuhansDiary nothing more than that to say,my goodness how limited are some?
@@oliver69cork46 Just because soccer had the privilege of attracting the most people and generating the most revenue and thus attracting capitalism doesn't mean that rugby is less relevant. Also the comment about rugby players shows how simple minded you are.
I play pickleball with fellow OAPs ….we had a new player join us recently about 70 years old who has two artificial shoulders and an artificial knee all courtesy of Rugby injuries from his School days.😳
He had no idea that was coming. So couldn't even shape up to hit back harder.
Holy BrianLimaFrankBunceJerryCollins Batman!
Cheap shot, legal or not. A shoulder to someone’s liver at full speed is a dick move. The receiver will be keeping his head up after that one, assuming he survived, and was eventually up and running again.
womp womp. good tackle
liver? The tacklers head is in the guys armpit as his shoulder slams into the victims chest. Considering the shoulder is party of the arm, that's simply a high tackle and should've been penalised as such.
That was BEAUTIFUL
eesh. My boy in the stripes gets whiplashed forwards then his head smacks on the pitch. Out go the lights. Had a few of those. Can't help but assign a little bit of responsibility to him and his coach though. He sees the tackler then takes his eyes off him to attempt a pass. So he's not braced at all at impact and gets rag-dolled.
9 - 13
A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.
If anybody looks at that tackle and believes it is not dangerous. They're fool.
Smashed em bro
*Law 9 DANGEROUS PLAY*
*11. Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others.*
Fun to watch, then comes the concern
A far better alternative to WAR no matter what the global rugby and health boards say about the head injuries. It is far more ideal that nations settle their differences on the rugby field than in the killing fields.
Legal - yes. Assault - yes. Whiplash - yes. Hope the guy didn’t have lasting problems.
Rugby was not a game that was designed with the body composition of Pacific Islanders in mind.
The hit was (probably) within the rules of the game. The height was fine. Different people will have different interpretations on exactly where on the controlled wrap/shoulder charge spectrum the tackle was.
It doesn't change the fact that hits like that are fucking dangerous, and if Union keeps allowing them - the sport is going to die in the arse.
No sane parent is gonna want their kid to be lined up like that. A thugs game only works if everyone is prepared to be a gentleman.
BOOM ! Great hit
This is a great example of why this tackle height/head contact stuff is bollocks. This guy is concussed before he even hits the deck.
0:08 at 0.25 playback speed
Had to brace for that tackle, trying to get the pass off there is what done him.
Just awful and people enjoy this type of tackle as theyd call it,more like assault! No wonder rugby numbers are going down,would parents like to see their sons or daughters suffer this? Its brutality. Hope that guy was ok.
That kid was 17 at the time asked to play 1st grade rugby. No matter how good you think you are, and no matter how much your team "needs" you don't pay senior rugby until you are a senior.
Ive genuinely never played rugby in my life and i dont regret it at all
If you’re gonna pass, do it.
If you’re gonna fake a pass, do it.
Or if you’re gonna drive it, do that.
But MAKE A DECISION