First drive of the FLOODED Corvair! Bringing another one back to life!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2021
- Today we're back on the FLOODED 1965 Corvair. Last time, we got it up and running well but it wasn't quite ready for a first drive. This time we rebuild the brakes and go for the first drive in 13 years!
It's now got new brake shoes, rebuilt wheel cylinders, new master cylinder and the brakes are DONE!
Since 2008, the car has sat unloved but now has been brought back to life! There is a TON of work still to do on the car but it's one step closer every single day.
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You got yourself a classic car
This brings back a lot of nice memories
I put a many a mile in my Corvair’s back in the 90’s
You will love yours.God Bless.
Thank you so much!
Old cars are a fun pile of headaches. I had a 1954 1/2 Chevy 5 window p/u which I restored. It was a Vandenburg AFB "Follow Me" truck. Cast iron Hydramatic 4spd trans on the old inline six. Truck ended up like new British Racing Green fenders and running boards with white body and box. Adjusting brakes was very important for straight, balanced stopping. Looked Like New!
I really like that year of Corvair. Can't wait to see more of it.
Congratulations on the first drive. When you took off the brake master cylinder, I thought for sure you were going to treat the car to a dual system type, but I assume that was not possible. Great job!
It's VERY possible. 1967-1969 models had duel cylinders. Corvair owners often switch them out, regardless of the year.
Great video series ! ! Takes me back a day or two ! Nice work on a real BIG job. Flooded cars show new problems , almost daily, especially if brackish or salt water. My Buick was killed by hurricane Dennis, at the NC. coast (about 199x ?).
A friend introduced me to his Corvair in about '63. I bought a '63 Monza rag top in '64, loved it!
Later bought a new '66, 900, and later, a '65 Monza in about '68 or '69 for $100. Really, but it needed an engine rebuild. I lucked into a machinist that was aircraft 'a & p' certified. He took the time to teach me that it was more an aircraft than auto engine, and it needed very different treatment.
My last one was a '62, 4 door, power glide, that I paid $25.00 for, in '73. It also needed an engine rebuild, which was completed in my carport. The job went from tow truck hook to roadable, in 6 days & 6 cases of beer (it was hot in the carport) ! It was my 60 mile a day commuting car for more than 5 years. Back in those days you could d.i.y. a complete engine rebuild for $300, or so, if you didn't heed too many parts.
While in Northern Va., I met a fellow who raced Corvairs. One year, he was top of class (F or G stock, I think) for elapsed time, and another year held class 'top speed' trophies in the 1/4 mile drag.
Great job on the videos. Thanks, Ken.
Thank you for saving the corvair, and doing an informative video.
I think that leaving it as patina is a good idea because it shows that nothing is being hidden.
GB
I'm loving the patina on this one. It's taken nearly 60 years to get this way and I hope people appreciate it for what it is.
Another good video that's all I can watch tonight I'll get back to it tomorrow evening be safe
good to see you rebuilding wheel cylinders like we were taught in school. there is too much replacing of parts now.
Yep, that’s how I was taught as well!
I only drove a corvair once and I like it. My dream is to get a clean daily driver Corvair. My choice would be a 1965 model. I do remember in 1967 going to a sports car event in 1967 and was impressed how good a 1965 model was in trials. Just dreaming.
Nice job with the Corvair, ironically my 66 Dart recently had a condenser issue too. Will watch more.
Great video. Very clear and informative. Good to see someone working on a Corvair. That is a pretty solid car. 65 by the tail lights. Hope to see another video on it.
Thanks, and there will be many videos on this one! It’s a 1965 Monza 110HP and remarkably solid car
oh yes, beautiful car too. always thought these were gorgeous design.
I totally agree!
This is a great video, my dad had a 1966 Corvair rag top, this car was the first car I drove when I began to drive, it was a lot of fun...
Thank you for sharing this piece of history...
Thank you!
For the bad rap Corvairs had at that time, I'm glad to see this one is on it's way to recovery!!
Yes, Corvairs:
1) Unsafe at any speed....(MANY V.W. bugs drove around with roll-over damage.)
2) Left oil puddles on the ground and were typically showing a lot of oil on the back of the car. (Many cars, back in day were oil leakers, burned oil. Mostly due to lack of proper maintenance..
Corvairs were ALL over the place back then....The speed limit back in the 1960's was 65 MPH and these cars had NO problem keeping up at that pace!!
I'm anxiously awaiting to see more videos on this car......
But from my own experience, please, above all; if you see a Chevy Citation, AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS!!! I owned a 1980 Citation, NEW and it was a death trap !!!
Vegas on the other hand, you could hear them rust. I had two of them also..One lasted until 1993. It had a sleeved engine, but the distributor failed, the body was swiss-cheesed so it wound up crushed with it's 5th engine in it...
Thanks again!!!
Yeah, absolutely no Citations or Chevettes here!
Lack of maintenance doesn’t cause oil leaks. Early Corvairs were horrible oil leakers even early in their life. The dealership mechanics despised working on them. Yes, they received undeserved bad reviews BUT at the time the Valiants and even the Falcons were much better cars.
@@AutoAnatomy Chevettes? Ooooo.I forgot those..
I love the videos keep them coming
Thank you!
Great Job Shawn! I always like Corvairs!
Thank you!
Shawn, now that you've gotten into this project I'm so impressed, I got a 1965 Corsa. The only difference is my car is a model 1/24th size. I'm thinking about painting it dark green with a light beige interior. I'm have to learn all the tricks to build this car so that it looks as real as possible. So as you start you project, I'll be starting mine. haha
Thank you, and best of luck on your miniature Corvair!
good job!!! but check to see if your front brake hoses have a slight twist in them otherwise they may rub against tires. you have to turn front wheels to far right and far left to see if they rub. you also should have used brake cleaner on all wheels to make sure asbestos dust was contained. enjoy!!
I think those rear shocks are the original Delco "spiral" shocks. DON'T throw them away...someone can use them and have them rebuilt for a show car.
Good to know, I'll see if anyone wants them.
they were still making them at delco in plt 3... downtown dayton....when i started there in 76.....
Hi Sean! Congrats for get your Corvair to run and drive! I do enjoy this things! Reminds my time doing this more than 10 years ago. In 2022 I'll do the same for a 80s car.
I had a couple corsair and getting them to crank over fast can be a challenge, watching this is giving me the itch again the are easy to work on and fun to drive. I aways wanted to do a restomod and make a wagon/shooting break estate.
Good luck!
Just spotted your ride today walking through the parking deck. Really dig it!
Thanks! Been enjoying the new exhaust system on the interstate!
Very cool!!!
Thanks!
looking back on your failed condenser, yeah the points kits always included a new one, and they get replaced every time new points. So I guessed that was your ignition issue. Keep it bone stock if you like, but back in the late 1970's we upgraded to any type of transistorized ignition for vastly improved spark, better starting, and slightly better fuel economy too. worth it.
Yes, the Corvair point ignition was not very good. I used to check the points at least once between the 3000 mile tune-up period on my mom's new1963. You did NOT want to let the dealer touch it beyond the mandatory warrantee service period, as they were totally inept.. I have no idea how people started these in sub-freezing areas.
Good job, well done!
Thanks buddy!
You're very lucky that the fittings came off without bending or breaking the steel brake lines. My fittings were frozen to the lines which required me to replace the lines on my 66 Monza 4 door. But stock Corvair brakes are excellent, GM used the same brakes on the A body Chevelles, Skylarks, etc. Which weighed 1,000 pounds more! I was happy to see you replacing the wheels for stock ones using the correct factory hubcaps! Great project, I enjoyed it thoroughly! Even though the work took you a few hours, the same work took me weeks!
Definitely happy the fittings didn’t break, that was my big fear. I think the factory hubcaps look great on these cars! And don’t get fooled by the time…it took me a few days to get it done, but with the magic of video seems like only a few moments. Thanks for watching!
Sean
The metal "drums" Are the pistons, the rubber "pistons" are not, they are the Piston Seals. Guess new kits these days don't have the metal support thing goes behind the piston seals that the spring in the middle would press up against. Good job, good luck with your project.
Hello Sean. Glad to see it's on the road again! Looks like you have another winner!
George B. in Michigan
Thank you!
just subscribed to you. picked up a 65 corsa this summer , clark’s will be your best friend!
Thanks so much!
My company truck use to make that noise. After a clutch plate change, all was quiet.
The throw out bearing on my Corvair sounds the same as yours. A fix for next spring!
I may end up doing this one...not sure yet. It stopped making noise but chatters a little bit when letting the clutch out.
@@AutoAnatomy mine chatters and shudders. No matter how slow I let out the clutch, it’s not smooth like it should be. As I understand it, you have to drop the engine and tranny to replace clutch and throw out bearing. Too big of a job for me.
hey sean great video! :) does marvel mystery oil or sefoam do a better job at cleaning gunk and quiet lifters?
also were rear drums harder to work on corvair or the 66 thunderbird?
14:45 - oh my - the bad old days of 'single-circuit' brakes...some manufacturers were already using dual circuit brakes in 1962 - I wonder what took GM so long? They were mandatory by 1967.
I'd love to see you pressure wash everything underneath. Just get rid of the mud
It’ll happen!
The drums just pull off, no need to remove the bearings. They should be repacked however. I would replace the wheel cylinders. Actually I did. Also replaced all the steel lines, everything including the rubber pedal. I have a '65 Monza Convertible, no flood, but salt damage. Clarks sells dual master cylinder upgrade. Why didn't you get it?
Stay tuned
These cars were always notoriously hard to start
As someone who has only owned a Beetle for a classic car and has the original owners manual for my 74 Super Beetle where it states something along the lines of "To start the car pump the gas pedal one time and then HOLD it to the floor", why is it that everyone I see pumps the pedal but does not hold it down? My Beetle starts immediately when cold if I do this and while hot it makes it start far, far easier than just cranking the car or giving it a pump or two.
The hot start is probably a different issue, I've done every bit of tuning and replacement parts you can think of, but that's why the engine is being rebuilt soon along with the continuously worse oil leaks. Still, if I do not HOLD the pedal to the floor the car is far harder to start than if I just pump it at any temperature or weather.
Pumping the throttle a couple times squirts fuel and then it should set the choke on fast idle. You shouldn’t need to hold it to the floor if the fast idle cam on the choke is working correctly. At least, that has been my experience, but I’ve never worked on a Beetle.
@@AutoAnatomy I just looked and the manual does actually state to be pressing the pedal down while starting rather than pumping it. It also says to start the car and immediately drive off at moderate speeds until the engine is up to temp, probably due to sitting at idle being awful on aircooled engines.
I figure anything with a Corvair is applicable to beetles other than that beetles are just more cramped to work on but possibly simpler when it comes to engines and oddly more complicated when it comes to most other things. The spare tire air pressure windshield washer system being one oddity I can think of.
They're fun cars, if you every want anything aircooled again you should pick one of them or a Karman Ghia up. The engines will never let you down so long as you treat them right, and I've heard the same about Corvairs and how if they're done right they run laps around Cameros and the like. Good luck on this one though! It's been enjoyable to watch so far along with the Thunderbird videos. About to buy a rare 63 Thunderbird myself and your videos helped ease me about aspects of the big V8 cars that I just didn't know.
Hi Sean,
This is only my episode on your channel. I have always been fond of the Corvair. I learned how to drive a manual transmission on my older brothers 1963 Monza. Later I owned a 1965 Corvair. It had the new body style but I don't remember the model name. I didn't have it very long. I got drafted for Vietnam. I had parked it in the barn and it got sold out from under me. An offer was made for more than I paid for it and it was gone. Of course I can thank Ralph Nader who wrote the book unsafe at any speed. My dad thought he was doing me a favor.
Do you intend to use a sand blaster or a pressure washer to remove the mud from under the car?
Well good luck.
Hi Jerry, it's amazing how many people have history with the Corvair. It's a shame they killed them in 1969.
Those wheel cylinders are probably pitted in the bores. Honing won’t help. They really should be replaced and not rebuilt. I would have replaced those old rusted brake springs too. Brake hoses were probably OK. They rarely fail. Well, after 55 years probably not a bad idea.
The wheel cylinders weren’t rusty, actually. Just light surface rust that cleaned up with a hone. The rubber hoses were brittle and would have failed with any pressure.
Pumping repeatedly the gas pedal is counterproductive and can lead to flooding plugs with excessive fuel. Push pedal to floor once or twice then hold accelerator at halfway to set the chokes.
Yeah I thought you might upgrade master to a dual unit
All that new stuff and you didn't use new cylinders? Where are the new spring kits? That is imperative to change them especially as it is a drowned car. Heheheh...that throwout is a groaner LOL. At least it sits right. Good job though. New suspension will be nice.
i have the Ignitor Electronic Ignition Kit in all my corvairs an my 69 mach1 ,,no more points
My father has put the Pertronix in his cars, and loves them. May be a necessity!
i would go with dot 5 in the brakes ,,,wont have water in it after 3 -5 years like dot 3...
nice job , did you drain the transmission ?
Thanks! Yes, it got flushed as well with new fluid
@@AutoAnatomy very good , I love Corvairs my aunt had a 1968 which she bought new .She was very angry when Nader came out with his report and shut them down .
What are your plans for the car when it is finished?👍
I’d like to get it reliable as a driver, redo the interior and then sell to someone who can enjoy it while finishing the project.
remember 32 psi rear around 20 psi front,,,,no weight up front...but you may know that
How about a dual master cylinder???
Would be a nice safety upgrade
Don't cut short on brake system
It's almost a shame that Corvairs are so under-valued. They are among the best handling and best looking American cars of the 1960s. When properly tuned and maintained they have no problem keeping up with modern traffic at 70-75 mph.. The good news of course is they are very affordable, and parts are readily available.
I agree, they were/are great cars and should be worth more than they are. I’m loving bringing this one back to life and look forward to driving it more soon.
Thanks for checking out the videos!
Sean
Congratulations on recusing the Corvair. Do you plan to do the body and interior work to actually restore it to its past glory? I do appreciate you showing the steps involved in rebuilding brakes etc. Great for a non-mechanic like myself.
Thank you! I’ll likely refresh the interior but leave the bodywork and paint to the next owner. The next owner will be able to drive and enjoy it while finishing it out completely
You got yourself a classic car
Absolutely! It's been a ride for sure.