Peter Sutcliffe Analysis (Yorkshire Ripper)

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  • This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Peter Sutcliffe, who is also known as the Yorkshire Ripper?
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  • @multitopic1908
    @multitopic1908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    As a Yorkshireman who was alive at the time and who lived in the same area as two victims I can vouch for the accuracy of Dr RGs account. His analysis is very good. The police were hopeless and corrupt too.

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Body found outside Saville flat

    • @karlmuller3690
      @karlmuller3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@vibes00 - Really? I'd never heard of that aspect of the case before, but,
      then again, I was only 15yrs old when he was caught, and I am from Australia.
      In a way, though, Saville might be cosidered just as bad, if not worse. As for
      those around Saville that protected him, gave the "green light", well as we say
      down here, "those bastards are Lower Than Shark Shit" !!
      P.S : -- Please pardon my language, it's just that some of the "subject matter",
      gets to me, a little, is all so for that much, I'm sorry.
      P.S.S :- All the best of the Season, to you and yours, and please, stay safe co-19
      wise, I mean!!!

    • @ianclarke3627
      @ianclarke3627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      West Yorkshire police have quite a record.

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All police forces have totally dysfunctional officers

    • @Jinjer.jen84
      @Jinjer.jen84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@vibes00 Sutcliffe and Savile became friends later on I believe. Speaks volumes!

  • @Kayla.....
    @Kayla..... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    All I want for Christmas is.... a work ethic like Dr. Grande. The amount of content you’re able to produce is astonishing. 👏🏾 👏🏾 ❤️

    • @yourstruly256
      @yourstruly256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This comment 👏🏽

    • @fujoshii_x
      @fujoshii_x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All I want for Christmas is to marry Dr. Grande. I simp so hard for him

    • @fujoshii_x
      @fujoshii_x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Frenchblue8 nooooo :'( you ruined my 2021

  • @Fern635
    @Fern635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    The first "innocent" victim 🙄.
    That's some very telling terminology on the part of the police.

    • @memeburgler187
      @memeburgler187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It isn't wrong, he was mainly attacking prostitutes and then he attacked a woman who wasn't. It meant that anyone could be a victim and not just prostitutes. It is illegal to be a prostitute.

    • @Ash-ms
      @Ash-ms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @C R I think they were too rigid with their theory that he was a geordie who hated prostitutes. When you cling too tightly to a theory (especially one based on bad assumptions) it can be like tunnel vision, so you are bound to miss evidence.

    • @Ash-ms
      @Ash-ms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@memeburgler187 actually he attacked and nearly killed women who were not prostitutes before the first prostitute was found murdered. But because the police were so (wrongly) confident he was only attacking prostitutes they did not attribute these attacks to him at first.

    • @lisacurtis8162
      @lisacurtis8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @C R 1+1equals..

    • @travisstoll3582
      @travisstoll3582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@memeburgler187 Your claim that prostitutes are not innocent because what they do is illegal means any person who has done something illegal is not innocent if someone decides to murder them. Law enforcement should not think about the social status of the victim and instead focus on capturing the killer, who is the only one who is truly not innocent.

  • @joannarianga9308
    @joannarianga9308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I witnessed a painful disclosure from one of his escapees. They’ve struggled with their mental health throughout their adult life. This was a couple of years ago, and till then, they had not received the appropriate mental health support they needed. It’s very sad that they had been systemically let down.

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mental health services in the UK are abysmal

    • @clairdelunefan
      @clairdelunefan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vmm5163 ~ In the USA as well.

    • @cindz4618
      @cindz4618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Survivors/ victim support is still pretty inadequate in a number of countries. You are often left ,if you have received initial help , with PTSD which you have to battle on with. There is still more focus on the perpetrators than the victims and sensationalist press and knee jerk judgements/ labelling don't help.

    • @HarryFlashmanVC
      @HarryFlashmanVC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of his likely but never proven victims was a Yorkshire taxidriver who Sutcliffe assaulted with a hammer when he was 19, having cadged a lift from central Leeds to Bingley. The taxidriver, who was 24, was struck several times on the head from behind, Sutcliffe (never proven but the MO and description were a match) exited the car, tried to open the driver's door ,smashed the window but the driver was able to gun the engine and slip the clutch and get away. He stopped at a nearby cottage and asked the owner to call the police before losing consciousness, he spent days in hospital with a fractured skull, his injuries meant he never drove again and the psychological impact meant he never worked again, never married his girlfriend, never had a family or a full life...

  • @Philip_Taylor
    @Philip_Taylor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    "It's a bad place to die"
    To be fair, Bradford is a bad place to live too. Was born there.

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the accent though

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      “He died in a fancy restaurant.”
      *”There’s worse places. So how did he die?”*
      “Choked to death. He was killed by the Yorkshire Pudding.”

    • @garymelnyk7910
      @garymelnyk7910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Full marks for humour!

    • @Jinjer.jen84
      @Jinjer.jen84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahaha you’re not wrong

    • @nighttrain1236
      @nighttrain1236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A bad place to live too. :D

  • @tricarb01
    @tricarb01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I live in Bradford. Not very far from his hunting ground. Really, the Police hunt for him was a shambles. Those poor women.

    • @Philip_Taylor
      @Philip_Taylor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True. I used to walk past his wife's house in Heaton all the time, very eery all of it!

    • @Kratos-005
      @Kratos-005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The police had so many drawings of him from witnesses. Every one of them had his distinctive beard on them. The police visited his home many times to question him. Each time, they let him go. He continued with his killings. Without a doubt, these women’s lives could have been saved. The police made an absolute mess of it. It was shameful to say the least.

    • @courgette3401
      @courgette3401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the victims was found in my husbands back garden ( when he was a student at the university). Very poor policing. They were convinced it was a geordie.

    • @lindaarrington9397
      @lindaarrington9397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes very messed up and often unprofessional
      bordering criminal.

    • @lindaarrington9397
      @lindaarrington9397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Philip_Taylor i wondered how she couldnt see his suspicions actionand even protected him giving him a false alibi
      dont know how she can look herself in the mirror

  • @annierose2872
    @annierose2872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    What a treat on Christmas Eve Eve. Two more sleeps and we can ripper presents open. Happy Holidays from the UK 🇬🇧

    • @ruberthablackman3949
      @ruberthablackman3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol

    • @elainearchibald9020
      @elainearchibald9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol ripper open!

    • @GGiblet
      @GGiblet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Love it!! 💜🎄💜

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Merry Christmas from the Geordies 💓🙏😁

    • @firstlady161
      @firstlady161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Merry Christmas from the Brummies

  • @Pattiepies55
    @Pattiepies55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Merry Christmas Dr. Grande 🎄🎅

  • @elphaba4674
    @elphaba4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    So they started to really pay attention when a "innocent " girl was killed.. ? Ok, what were the other ladies then? Thats messed up... 😾

    • @hugjhjakhj3838
      @hugjhjakhj3838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Prostitution is a crime

    • @travisstoll3582
      @travisstoll3582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hugjhjakhj3838 Isn't killing a worse crime?

    • @jessdully3348
      @jessdully3348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hugjhjakhj3838 So you reccomend the death penalty for prostitution?

    • @JustDr.S
      @JustDr.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It shouldn't matter who the victim is in a murder case. The cops were incompetent. All the evidence was there, they couldn't put it together. smh.

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They were easy targets God rest them

  • @chgo60610
    @chgo60610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Thank you for addressing the real reason serial killers target prostitutes: their lives are seen as dispensable. Fantastic analysis.

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also that's just the ones they knew about check out links to Jimmy Saville jaw dropping

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason serial killers target prostitutes is their unhealthy dysfunctional relationship with their mother. In their eyes women can be "all good" or "all bad." Saville's mother "The Duchess" was all good, whilst his victims were all bad. Bad women need to be punished according to the killer. Sam Vaknin explains this really well in his videos if anyone's interested

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Roa Shallow explanation...? It's the work and personal experience of Sam Vaknin. And he should know, he's a psychologist himself. Plus he has a personality disorder. Or perhaps we should dig up Jimmy Saville and interview him about his mother

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Roa agreed 👍

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vmm5163 Was Jimmy a bastard royal via his mother the duchess??

  • @Samuelle09
    @Samuelle09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The good Doctor takes such great care of us 😭💘🎄 thank you kindly Dr. Grande.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a child at the time, with lots of family in Yorkshire, I remember this like it was yesterday, people were terrified. I would recommend the book: Yorkshire Ripper, The Secret Murder by Clarke and Tate. It's an excellent analysis of the many many murders that were probably carried out by Sutcliffe, and more concerning, a number of assaults against women and a murder/robbery of a local bookie, as a teen accomplice of an older man.
    The British police didn't have an effective national database for serious crimes until the Holmes System in 1985. The Police National Computer was introduced in 1974 but took a decade to deploy. Before 1968, police forces in Britain were organised by Borough, from tiny forces to major ones, each with their own systems etc. 1968, these were merged by County.
    The UK doesn't have an FBI (it isn't a Federation of States) the first national agency wasn't founded until 2006. But post Ripper, tracking national crimes became far more effective. Scotland merged its forces into a single national force about 10 years ago, a controversial move. England and Wales police by County with the London based Metropolitan Police being the senior force.
    Re the West Yorkshire Police of the time, the case exposed major systemic failures and extremely toxic culture.... one that makes the alleged toxic culture of modern police forces look like a very minor issue, the WYP in 1974 would respond to the modern defend the police activists by 'he fell down the stairs m'lud'... and give them something to ACTUALLY moan about.

  • @HumanimalChannel
    @HumanimalChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    "The first innocent victim"
    Wow
    Just wow

    • @memeburgler187
      @memeburgler187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What? Prostitution is a crime.

    • @Samuelle09
      @Samuelle09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah my jaw dropped and eyebrows furrowed at that.

    • @jojonesjojo8919
      @jojonesjojo8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was the 70s. That's how people rolled back then.

    • @lisacurtis8162
      @lisacurtis8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We know people are people but some others seem to think that some lives are more valuable than others.

    • @ShelleyJane
      @ShelleyJane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Samuelle09 the documentary upset me due to this. I kept thinking “when do they realise that sex workers are people too?!” Police work nearly as horrifying as the crimes. With Some victims they did just assume they were sex workers because of where they were walking. He chose who he had easy access to and clearly hated all women.

  • @adrienne5080
    @adrienne5080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love it when you do British Serial Killers... as it is closer to home.... I remember this so well. Thanks Dr Grande.x

  • @billie6814
    @billie6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Big love to you from Australia, Dr. Grande! It's nearly 10:30am Christmas Eve here, so happy holidays for tomorrow, everyone! ❤️❤️❤️

    • @JustDr.S
      @JustDr.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And happy holidays to you, also! 💝

    • @billie6814
      @billie6814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustDr.S ohh! Thank you! 🙂

  • @johnreynolds6369
    @johnreynolds6369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Dr G take a look at the case of Fred and Rosemary West. I reckon you’d find a fair bit to say about them.

    • @neilpye6089
      @neilpye6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at serial killer Dr Harold shipman

    • @abbie.ireland
      @abbie.ireland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I find Fred and Rose extremely disturbing. 🤮

  • @richardbuckley1232
    @richardbuckley1232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was my question! Thank you Dr. Grande 🙏

  • @redbaron2455
    @redbaron2455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hearing an American pronounce Yorkshire correctly shocked me XD thank you Dr

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Edinburgh is the worst pronounced LOL

    • @jonathangriffiths2499
      @jonathangriffiths2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vibes00 Salisbury is always a treat as well

    • @joannaw5913
      @joannaw5913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathangriffiths2499 and Worcester!

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathangriffiths2499 hahaha now that must be a real tounge twisted what about Worcestershire sauce 😂👍🎄🎁

    • @farazhassan8944
      @farazhassan8944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He called it west riding of Yorkshire. This no longer exists.
      It was simply west Yorkshire

  • @elisamastromarino7123
    @elisamastromarino7123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Excellent timing Dr Grande! I never thought anything good could come of 2020. I was wrong.
    Merry Christmas! 🎄And thank you, doctor!

  • @jedilegoarts9882
    @jedilegoarts9882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was a kid when this took place. One victim's body was found in my mum's local supermarket. It was a very scary time and people were very suspicious of each other. Years later My university lecturer who worked with Sutcliffe at the psych hospital said he was not schizophrenic but a psychopath.

    • @garrybaldy327
      @garrybaldy327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What, near the beans and carrots?

    • @serenityinside1
      @serenityinside1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reduced section - “ damaged in store” ?

  • @gdogg3710
    @gdogg3710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    YES DOC!!! Hope it was me asking for it over and over that got it in a video!!!

  • @istateyourname4710
    @istateyourname4710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has always been a fascinating case study. Thanks, Dr., and Happy Holidays!

  • @laylamaree1175
    @laylamaree1175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Dr. Grande, great content as always!

  • @unblessedcoffee1457
    @unblessedcoffee1457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I walk my dog in Roundhay park in Leeds all the time, having seen the recent documentary, I walk right around the area where that body was found, at times right over the area. Never knew, its right outside where Jimmy Savilles palce used to be. Everyone you speak to of that age still knows about this case, police are still recovering today from the reputation hit of their handling of the case. The documentary was very charitable to them to be honest.

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You seen Was Jimmy Saville a Wizard? If not watch! 5ociety X video on TH-cam brilliant vid 👍

    • @eggZ663
      @eggZ663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You seen that picture of Sutcliffe, Saville and Frank Bruno(!?) all together, make of that what you will!

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eggZ663 masonic brothers

    • @beckyflower7297
      @beckyflower7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vibes00 at least.

    • @dingfeldersmurfalot4560
      @dingfeldersmurfalot4560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are they feeling about Rotterdam?

  • @debbiemilam2204
    @debbiemilam2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Dr. Grande for an outstanding year. Merry Christmas to you and Family.

  • @georgemitchell8125
    @georgemitchell8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for you amazing and hard work! Have a great day Dr. Grande!

  • @sherunswithscissors
    @sherunswithscissors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I found the Netflix show interesting on a couple of points
    - the notion that the life of a prostitute’s life is worth less ( this idea still persists).
    - the reaction of the women’s movement who protested that they all had to change their behaviour because of the behaviour of one man.
    Thank you Dr Grande.

    • @leysanderson
      @leysanderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Watched the doc recently too. demanding women to stay home 'to be safe' rather than giving the men a curfew!
      Ridiculous! A man was killing women, but let's blame that on them for existing at night.

    • @margaretr5701
      @margaretr5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@leysanderson yes, why impose a curfew on women and not men.
      Still, to this day, it's shocking that 50% of the population are still vulnerable when out alone.

    • @StimParavane
      @StimParavane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@margaretr5701 Men are much more likely to experience violence than women. We are all vulnerable. But learning to be sensible when out at night, in particular, is wise.

    • @margaretr5701
      @margaretr5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@StimParavane I agree with you regarding men being vulnerable too, but I haven't heard many men claiming to be nervous about going out alone at night, but most women are extremely apprehensive. I was very naive and walked alone at any time, day or night, until it was proven by personal experience, to be dangerous. I resent my freedom being taken away. Experiences as well as statistics, create our opinions.

    • @MrClassicmetal
      @MrClassicmetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@leysanderson What would that curfew for men have accomplished?
      Do you think a _serial killer_ would actually obey that curfew? Do you actually think that a monster who has committed _horrific crimes_ would give a damn about a curfew?🤨
      Ripper: "I have the urge to kill tonight. Too bad there's this damn curfew for men, so it'll have to wait.."

  • @lauraharrison3349
    @lauraharrison3349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Living for this video after watching the series on Netflix! 🙌 Thank you Dr Grande ❤

    • @JustDr.S
      @JustDr.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't watched the series, yet. I think I will now. Happy Holidays!

  • @AnneEstipona
    @AnneEstipona 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The audio here is better than the more recent videos, Dr. Grandre. Please bring these kinds of editing back. Thankies!

  • @mrsapplez2007
    @mrsapplez2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just as I start typing up my notes on shift i get to listen to Dr G on this, the second most famous ripper.
    PERFECT TIMING! Thank you.
    P.s. Huuuum, I wonder if you will be doing a festive upload with a Christmas jumper on. Now wouldn't that be a treat😊😊😊

  • @olddutchification
    @olddutchification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen several docs on TH-cam about Sutcliffe and I learned many things that I did not know about this case on your presentation Your research is amazing!

  • @usamazulqarnain8420
    @usamazulqarnain8420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Doctor Grande glad to see that you did a video about serial killer Peter Sutcliffe now you should do a video about Jack the Ripper.

  • @mariamatmos4506
    @mariamatmos4506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have an absolutely great Christmas, Dr Grande! You deserve all the best❤️☺️

  • @Ash-ms
    @Ash-ms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an interesting case! Happy holidays, Dr. Grande!🎄⛄Thanks for gifting us so much great content! 🎁

  • @matildeaglaee
    @matildeaglaee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished the Netflix series & now this video! Thank you Dr.Grande!

  • @alanafig2574
    @alanafig2574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the content dr grande !!

  • @victoriaarmstrong6498
    @victoriaarmstrong6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Grande,
    Thanks for your indefatigable. I look forward to your videos everyday. Much appreciated!

  • @BrianneVillano
    @BrianneVillano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "A sixteen year old woman." Sorry, but she was a child. A girl.

    • @callie7093
      @callie7093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True, but over in the uk age 16 is like age 18 in the states.

    • @mysteryjunkie9808
      @mysteryjunkie9808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here in UK the age of consent is 16 you see alot of 16 year old women with men in their 20's and sometimes 30's. They are both consenting adults.

    • @imogensharma
      @imogensharma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mysteryjunkie9808 Doesn't mean they aren't children. Older men like their just-developed bodies but don't want to feel guilty about it so they delude themselves that it's fine to take advantage of children. A 16 year old brain is nowhere near finished developing.

    • @margaretr5701
      @margaretr5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Derek Chauvin yes, 16 and 18 too, are extremely young, but those are the ages of legal consent, depending on which country you live in. But poor girl of 16 could not have had much life experience to imagine that she was vulnerable to murder.

    • @jon590
      @jon590 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, sixteen is a child. But seriously, is this really the most important thing out of this video? Is it honestly worth pointing out?

  • @funnyclips2151
    @funnyclips2151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your sense of humor.

  • @christinemurphy8576
    @christinemurphy8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a student in Leeds at the time and we were all afraid to go out alone!

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To say that the Police in this case was incompetent is an understatement. Furthermore, their attitude towards the victims was disheartening.
    Excellent video Dr. Grande, thank you as always!❤️

  • @Threecharacterslong
    @Threecharacterslong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This man does not miss! 👏

  • @fairygirl9789
    @fairygirl9789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just finished the series -perfect timing! Time to get Dr G's thoughts!

  • @jelkel25
    @jelkel25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When interviewed about the Roundhay Park murder Sutcliffe was supposed to have said "the boss told me to do it". This was the only time he ever said this. The police thought he was trying to work his schizophrenia ticket. Jimmy Saville lived in Roundhay Park and was said to have connections to, or at least visited Ian Brady in prison. If Jimmy Saville was "the boss" you would have thought Sutcliffe would have said something about it after Saville died, then again Saville compromised many important people who would have preferred Sutcliffe to keep his mouth shut.

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      👍 that's interesting

  • @wonderwoman5528
    @wonderwoman5528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Appreciate you doing British cases for your British fans!

  • @Muffynbear-bs7fh
    @Muffynbear-bs7fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dr. Grande is wearing my favorite shirt. 😁💕

  • @lightseeker134
    @lightseeker134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Often after watching a movie I'll read the book to obtain further insight into a character and depth of the plot or details that may have been lost in translation. If there was a book available about the Ripper, I wouldn't need to read it because Dr. Grande's analysis provides all those details and more. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for another well researched video on this very interesting series. And, if there is a book available saving me the time needed to read it!😊

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing a Yorkshire Pudding in this video; only speculating about what could be happening in a Yorkshire Pudding like this.

  • @rapunzelmane9592
    @rapunzelmane9592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Apparently, when his wife went to the police station after his arrest and he explained what he'd done, she said: "What'cha do that for?" in a tone that suggested a placid mother finding out that her son had been caught stealing an apple. Interesting that it took her until 1994 to divorce him. It's not like any divorce court would have denied her reasoning.

    • @dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017
      @dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She had schizophrenia!!! She couldn't think rationally, listen

    • @beverleymacca4737
      @beverleymacca4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She still lives in the home they used to share together as well, which seems weird. Although I think if she sold the house then the state would take all the proceeds, so it makes sense. She's a recluse - almost never leaves the house. I feel quite sorry for her.

    • @dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017
      @dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@beverleymacca4737 SHE IS. UCKING SCHIZOPHRENIC, BLOODY LISTEN, LISTEN

    • @beverleymacca4737
      @beverleymacca4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017 all right calm down! I never said she wasn't.

    • @dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017
      @dougyohooglefrogtownrovers9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beverleymacca4737 then stop discussing, please, that her behavour is strange, of course it is. If a man decided to identify as a women ot visa verca, we'd except it, gender dysphoria, but I'm a bit bored of the "he or she are weired" I'm bloody weired, lots of people are, usually because we're mentally ill.

  • @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805
    @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah I think it was me that requested this. Thank you. Look forward to watching

    • @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805
      @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And there is a fascinating Jimmy Savile connection. I requested a video on him too, a very nasty piece of work

  • @fatiskitchen7724
    @fatiskitchen7724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your take on Peter Sutcliffe is compelling I’ll watch the Netflix documentary over the winter holidays.
    Happy holidays Dr. Grande! The best of wishes for you and humanity. Amen

  • @foxsparrow8973
    @foxsparrow8973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I want to see analysis on Santa Claus! Overeating, breaking into homes, slave labor, the guy is a mess!

    • @thefirm4606
      @thefirm4606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      So true, a psychotic narcissist IMO,
      Animal cruelty.. there’s always animal cruelty!
      Keeping ‘lists’ of good and bad children... hmmn yeah
      His victims have to be asleep
      Fake address
      Sick, just sick

    • @JustDr.S
      @JustDr.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      YEAH! And he never gets you the one present you want the most. Sadistic giant elf!

    • @martyal
      @martyal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And the stalking! Always knows when you sleep and what you’re doing while you’re awake!

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@martyal home invasions via the chimney, all those little elves around, forced labor....Such a sick bastard, he is!

    • @sherunswithscissors
      @sherunswithscissors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👏👏👏 Such a great idea! 🎄

  • @JFDA5458
    @JFDA5458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another point is that by 1979 the West Yorkshire Police did have access to the services of two former FBI criminal profilers who made it very clear from a cursory examination of the evidence that "Wearside Jack" was not the killer.

  • @paintitblack9712
    @paintitblack9712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Merry holidays everyone❤❤❤
    (Hey Dr. Grande, you did a video on proud boys and it immediately made me think it'd be interesting if you did one on the Black Panther Party: growing up my teachers would always speak about their "militant activity" but never about community service provided/ positive deeds. Anyways with the current political climate I thought this would be a topic worthy of discussion).

  • @judithcampbell1705
    @judithcampbell1705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes Dr Grande, another interesting analysis. Thank you..
    Good thing they finally caught him.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Please make it a "Ripper" double header with a video on the Jack the Ripper case. Thanks Dr. Grande.

    • @rogerdavies8586
      @rogerdavies8586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be challenging as we don't know who Jack the Ripper was.
      Marianne

    • @rayross997
      @rayross997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerdavies8586 Based on the evidence Dr. Grande may have incite into the type of mental makeup of the killer and what to look for in a suspect.

    • @rogerdavies8586
      @rogerdavies8586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rayross997 Yes, but I hope he won't get sidetracked into speculating about the butcher, the doctor, Queen Victoria's grandson etc.
      Marianne

    • @MidnightIsolde
      @MidnightIsolde 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerdavies8586 yes. If he bases it purely on factual information, not any of the more hysterical suspect theories, then it could be interesting. Although probably better from a forensic psychiatrist or criminologist that specializes in serial killers.

  • @elainearchibald9020
    @elainearchibald9020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dr. Grande! I do recall the story when it was happening. Great analysis!!
    Enjoy the holidays! This covid 19 has left us all spending the holidays apart from our loved ones. Thankful at the least, for being here. Stay well!!

  • @cancel_naomi
    @cancel_naomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Joan Crawford Mental Health and personality would be a great Christmas gift.🎄❣️

    • @JustDr.S
      @JustDr.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WIRE HANGERS!!

    • @cancel_naomi
      @cancel_naomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustDr.S LMAO.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She had to be bipolar. Mommy Dearest Sometimes and Sometimes NOT.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustDr.S lol

  • @sixbladeknife44
    @sixbladeknife44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahhhh, this is one that I had asked for awhile ago...thank you Dr. Grande!! 😎👍

  • @_DiJiT
    @_DiJiT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I would like to see a video on the Shayne Riggleman case. My friend Kevin and his family were murdered by Shayne back in 2011. It happened shortly before the killing of Skylar Neese, and I think may have had an influence on Rachel and Sheila.

  • @Yvonne_AZ65
    @Yvonne_AZ65 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always interesting. And love, love, love your dry humor zingers that you throw in so randomly.... Brilliant! 😄

  • @lallyjoel2536
    @lallyjoel2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seriously, even though I know that the voice on the tape isn't Sutcliffe, I always associate a Geordie accent with him. That Humble did SO much damage to the investigation; he said, rather feebly, that he was a heavy drinker and that he did it to make the police work harder. All he did was take the focus away from Sutcliffe, who killed more women. Thanks Dr Grande, good video.

    • @veragreenwood9864
      @veragreenwood9864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Humble eventually felt guilty and anonymously informed the police that it was a hoax. The police ignored his claim. Quel surprise!

  • @lindarhodes7453
    @lindarhodes7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't seen the series but this was a great analysis.
    Merry Christmas to you and yours!🎄 I learned so much from your videos this year. Thank you very much for all your hard work. Love you!❤

  • @zappawench6048
    @zappawench6048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The father of Peter Sutcliffe said all other fathers must be glad that it wasn't their own son who had done such terrible things. It's not just the families of the victims who suffer, it's the family members of the offender, for the shame and maybe guilt that they feel, having raised such a monster who attacked and killed people.

    • @mrsapplez2007
      @mrsapplez2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said

    • @Kari.F.
      @Kari.F. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. Sometimes kids grow up to become monsters like this no matter how good and normal their childhood was. It must be absolute torment for their families!

    • @donna1420
      @donna1420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His father was an abuser

  • @gabriellagulyas3778
    @gabriellagulyas3778 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited to watch this!! I’ve been waiting for this since I watched the Netflix documentary a few days ago!! Thank you Dr Grande and Merry Christmas to you and your family!! 🎄☺️🎁

  • @rockinbobokkin7831
    @rockinbobokkin7831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah nice. Fresh on my mind from Netflix.
    Edit:
    Diagnose the cops that screwed this all up so badly.

    • @margaretr5701
      @margaretr5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd be interested to hear a diagnosis on the hoaxer who sent the police letters and audio tape claiming to be the killer. What kind of mind would do such thing, he deserved prosecution and punishment.

  • @elke9499
    @elke9499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy restful Seasons Greeting dr Grande. Stellar work as always

  • @amy0077
    @amy0077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never clicked so fast, my jewelry fell off 💍🔪
    Watching The Ripper currently..

  • @jubirebas6779
    @jubirebas6779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always good to hear your opinion on cases that get turned into Netflix shows. I feel like they choose a storyline to follow beforehand

  • @jules70
    @jules70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Dr. Grande! I enjoy your videos a lot and they often really help me with my studies. Would you consider making a video on rumination disorder?

  • @voicesofalbian
    @voicesofalbian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Dr Grande. As a student of psychology, who is about to embark upon obtaining a Masters degree, I wanted to say that I find your channel insightful, interesting and very helpful. I wanted to ask your opinion of whether you feel that a PhD or other doctorate level qualification is essential for perusing a career in clinical or forensic psychology. Thank you for your time and please continue to create this fantastic content.
    P. S. If you created merchandise including T-shirts with.. "Hi this is Dr Grande" on the front... I'm pretty sure most of your subscribers would buy one! 👍

  • @stardust111100
    @stardust111100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dr. Grande!!! Always enjoy your commentary :)

  • @jennahopkins8189
    @jennahopkins8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Enjoyed the video. Could you cover the character 'Louis Bloom' in the movie Nightcrawler. It would be interesting to get your take. Happy Holidays!

  • @Lisared023
    @Lisared023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great commentary on the police in the case👍

  • @Synths-n-Guitar
    @Synths-n-Guitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Finally bastard died, this case had profound impact on the way which Policing in the UK is done. He got a whole life order that he deserved.

    • @Christrulesall2
      @Christrulesall2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Died right in time for Christmas.

    • @Synths-n-Guitar
      @Synths-n-Guitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Christrulesall2 We should stop call him the ripper

    • @sarahhardy8649
      @sarahhardy8649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And whole life sentences are rare in the UK.

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To live out amongst his own in comfort watch Was Jimmy Saville a Wizard Society X 🇬🇧 brilliant vid

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Christrulesall2 he was a freemason

  • @rebekahtinker9486
    @rebekahtinker9486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you as usual your analysis is spot on!
    I watch this mini series today and frankly found it horrifying. The incompetence of the police, the vulnerability of humans when someone just decides to kill without compunction. The guy already had the nickname of ripper from.his work colleagues maybe the police should have taken note.
    I am glad to hear from you that the man who fooled the police with letter and voice recording got caught..he is definitely culpable in the murders done while the police where caught up in his web of lies. Thx again Dr Grande.

    • @margaretr5701
      @margaretr5701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It took 27 years to catch the hoaxer despite having his DNA! He served half of his sentence and also died last year, age 63, of a heart attack, likely excessive alcohol related.

  • @catT5236
    @catT5236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd be very interested in your analysis of Fred and Rose West.

  • @dianec690
    @dianec690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE your sense of humor ! My husband n I crack up over some of the things you say

  • @jjarichardson
    @jjarichardson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The police in this case were unforgivably contemptible towards the victims as well as grossly incompetent. Had they not been, Suffcliffe could have been stopped years earlier.

    • @paulanthony5274
      @paulanthony5274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very much so.

    • @india239
      @india239 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope they’re roasting in I. Hell too

    • @StimParavane
      @StimParavane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@india239 Don't wish this upon anyone.

  • @kendra8539
    @kendra8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always a great day to find a notification from Dr. Grande. In the future, could you do a video on Fred and Rosemary West or Ian Brady And Myra Hindley?

  • @LaMaestra2102
    @LaMaestra2102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    16 years old is hardly a woman.
    I wanna die in a 5 star hotel. Is that superficial?
    Glad he's gone. I guess covid-19 has small advantages. Although, he had plenty of health problems preceding covid-19, so he was likely on the way out from breathing our air and taking up space anyway. Good stuff, Dr.G.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope. Not superficial at all. I'd chose a sunny beach in Hawaii or Catalina! 🌊

    • @Decgyrrl
      @Decgyrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't have said that better.

  • @petelaycock2842
    @petelaycock2842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had family in the Leeds area at the time. Very worrying period. Yes, the police messed up. I remember the relief when he was caught. Thanks, Dr Grande.

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a neighbor named Richard laypipe. Your name made me think about him for some reason!
      Happy holidays
      Dont throw your back out!

    • @petelaycock2842
      @petelaycock2842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erikparent8176 ha! Laycock is a Yorkshire name. Not very common in England. All the best to you.

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@petelaycock2842
      All apologies Pete!
      I thought someone was being silly and I'm mentally childish!
      Happy Holidays!🎄🎁

  • @martyal
    @martyal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    People who are interested in this story might enjoy Hallie Rubenhold’s book The Five.

    • @paulanthony5274
      @paulanthony5274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wicked beyond belief by Michael Bilton is a really in depth read,it contains much of the police paper work in the case,it's really good,I've read other books on Sutcliffe and this one is much more interesting and contains over 600 pages.

    • @simonorton
      @simonorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Am so pleased this book has been mentioned. Its incredible and the research is mind blowing. Recognising the lives of women, *people * murdered is long overdue after years of them just being numbers. Carol Ann Lee's Somebody's Mother, somebody's is a companion piece to that, in terms of those lost to this man.

    • @simonorton
      @simonorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulanthony5274 completely agree. Brilliant book.

  • @JFDA5458
    @JFDA5458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To give you an idea of how poor the Police investigation was at the time, in the North East of England where John Humble (AKA "Wearside Jack", author of the "I'm Jack" tapes lived), the Police who investigated that lead were checking library records for anyone who was loaning books on True Crime, "Jack the Ripper" or notorious murders from the past, as well as books on anatomy and surgical techniques. When they interviewed one of my neighbours who'd recently loaned several true crime stories out of the local library she commented to the CID officers, "you must be pretty bloody desperate for a suspect if you're checking peoples library cards"

  • @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805
    @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes I think you nailed it with this one. Do look into the Jimmy Savile connection though, it’s very bizarre

  • @dannandaeterra
    @dannandaeterra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so nice to see your face every day, Dr. Grande. :)

  • @sinaloagoon6961
    @sinaloagoon6961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Dr. Grande, you should analyze Gustavo Fring from Breaking Bad next. Thank you in advance.

  • @Happinosis
    @Happinosis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great analysis Dr G. I was a child when Peter Sutcliffe was actively killing, but it was a very frightening time. The documentary accurately portrayed the mood of the people, and the bigotry of the police towards women.

  • @sakhile_nkomo
    @sakhile_nkomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    VERY interesting and VERY disturbing. Your insight should be intriguing considering this case.
    Edit: forgot to add VERY weird. His reasons for doing these things was always...offside. As well as the incompetence in how long it took to catch him. Man wasn't that smart...

    • @anonymousperson3023
      @anonymousperson3023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wouldn't say not smart. It could be for thousands of other reasons

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's a mason

  • @Blonde_Somnambulist
    @Blonde_Somnambulist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a Bradford area girl from same town as Sutcliffe and his brother Carl is a friend of my youngest brother . They went to school In Bingley , by the time of time of the murders my eldest brother was a detective on the West Yorkshire ripper squad . No way would you have thought Peter was capable of this. He was a quiet man and so was His wife Sonia who I didn’t know , but my sister in law did and she says Sonia was a little slow . They had a nice semi in Heaton just up from Cottingley where I lived , and looked respectable in every respect . Sonia always said she had no clue what he was up to and neither did his siblings . Sadly as is common , Peters siblings faced terrible abuse for years . There are many victims in crimes of this nature .
    It was a shock when we found out who the Ripper was, to think he moved amongst us . By the time he was caught I had moved with my parents to Sheffield where he was apprehended
    I remember being in Cinderellas nightclub in Leeds in summer 1979 and police came in , turned the music off , lights on and then played the tape over the sound system. No one knew the voice .. it was a Geordie accent from up Newcastle way
    Scary times ...walking in pairs and forever looking behind you every two minutes
    He would have been caught much sooner today with advancements in dna and IT . RIP those poor girls so brutally murdered .

  • @DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT
    @DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    YIKES! A RIPPER for Christmas!

    • @mrs.reluctant4095
      @mrs.reluctant4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that's doctor.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder what we'll get Christmas Eve. More blood and guts. 😨

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I haven't watched the Netflix special, but I'll have to now.
    I can't believe how long he was able to commit his reign of terror!
    Happy Holidays Dr. Grande, and wishing you all the best things in life!! 🌲⭐

  • @lusomarga
    @lusomarga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A video fresh from the oven!!!

    • @lusomarga
      @lusomarga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awww, a like from Dr. Grande! Thank you! ♥︎♥︎♥︎

  • @jacquelinewilliams5661
    @jacquelinewilliams5661 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Dr. Grande's assessment on Peter Sutcliffe. He wasnt mentally ill in the way we know it. He was totally insane, as well as his calculating personality to live a " normal" life in the day working, then going out stalking and prowling for a victim. Just pure evil. I just love listening to Dr. Grande's very soothing voice because he always makes a very logical approach. When appropriate he puts in some very clever humour. It always makes me scroll to see whats next or go back to see what ive missed.

  • @yourfirstsecondlanguage4782
    @yourfirstsecondlanguage4782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Brilliant, please can you do one on Jimmy Saville!

    • @vibes00
      @vibes00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you seen Was Jimmy Saville a Wizard Society X brilliant vid 👍🇬🇧😁❤️

  • @chunkyedwards5381
    @chunkyedwards5381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a teenager in Leeds at the time of these killings and I just cannot emphasise how awful the police were. Both in their attitude to the women and their total arrogance allied to breath taking incompetence. To see Oldfield and Gregory patting themselves on the back at the news conference when he was caught was sickening. Especially as it was down to bobbies on the beat and pure chance.

  • @shanislost1
    @shanislost1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I first heard about him on Netflix, at first I thought it was Jack the Ripper. My dad was alive and living near the areas at the time, everyone was scared from what he could recall.

  • @Happinosis
    @Happinosis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in the area where a couple of his victims were killed and where one was attacked. Bad, bad man.

  • @teslaandhumanity7383
    @teslaandhumanity7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Did you know Peter sutcliffe has a high pitched squeaky voice .

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know why, but I think that's hilarious! 😆

    • @teslaandhumanity7383
      @teslaandhumanity7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LDiamondz ikr 😂

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teslaandhumanity7383 like the weepy voice killer. They played his recording to the police. He sounded funny, too. "I just killed someone...I didn't waaaant toooo. I'm sooory. I neeeed HEEEELLLP." Like fake crying. Blauuuu. 😆

  • @laurenjeangreenbean6301
    @laurenjeangreenbean6301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. G, I've kept this one for a bit because I'm so interested in your analysis of his ultimate diagnosis!