RJ was on the hunt for a Rolex Day-Date 18238 - let him tell you all about the watch and what you need to look out for when you are on the hunt for one yourself.
I just bought a Datejust but I agree with you. I’m going to save money every month to get the same model. The epitome of class and style, absolutely stunning and timeless style….
congrats on the day-date! i figure that i too would wait till at least my 40s to get one. on a separate note, it is quite sad that we now have to worry about what watches we can wear out in cities 😞
I live in Den Haag and new to the world of watches. I have a rose gold Datejust on order, could you advise if its a safety issue if I wore it out on the street late at night. Thanks
Heel goed uitgelegd 😎kijk al een paar maanden naar een day date ( ik ben grijs en 52 jaar 😅) heb zelf één explorer 36 mm …..zit als gegoten . Kijk zelf naar de black dail omdat die heel erg eruit springt als je hem ziet ,en dat vind ik mooi .voorlopig blijf ik review’s kijken van de day date ..leer elke keer weer bij over het horloge en de reis ernaartoe is ook heel erg leuk .groeten lowie
Congratulations! It's also my desire to own one...with the same configurations as yours...for now still enjoying my all gold Rolex Datejust ' til I found one in the pre-owned market...very nice content.
Grow some grey hairs, and yes! Totally agree on that, when I was 20, 30. An outdoor watch is cool and fun enough for me, now I’m hitting 43. It’s a time to think about day-date!
Great video…been wearing a 18238 since 2005 (when I was 31) and also have a 228206 9DD 40 plat) the DD is just soooo good. I have a bunch of others but I LOVE the DD’s.
Robert-Jan Great video. Interested to learn that you acquired this exquisite model with B&P? I assume as it was from a fellow watch connoisseur your comfort level was greater?
Brilliant, just spotted a couple of greys! The hunt begins! Excellent review and advice, but would expect nothing less. I agree, gold/champagne for the 36, but with white metal, perhaps 40mm...
The price delta on a 36 vs a daydate 40 is one jumbo spread. That being said, looks as though 40 MM daydates that were 53K (black-Denzel face Motif) and now are closer to 42K.
I had a gold Submariner (with Tiffany stamp, no less) 35 years ago, when I was 25. Gold Rolexes are beautiful, but very flashy. You have to decide if that's the impression you want to make. These days I much prefer a Lange. Since you're Dutch, I'll add that I sold that gold Sub with a black face and Tiffany stamp in 1992 in Wassenaar. So it's probably still floating around NL somewhere.
The weight is quite OK, a little bit heavier than some of the steel models I have but not as heavy as my gold Speedmaster. That one you’ll keep noticing during the day.
@@robert-janbroer8936 Thanks - another question - if you could have got one brand new from an AD, without waiting too long, rather than your vintage piece - would you have done that? And why?
@@sgoody1 No, and I will tell you why: the new Day-Dates are a bit heavier etc, but the downside are the design updates for me. The 118238 and newer refs have wider cases, losing a little bit of that elegance, and also polished surfaces on top of the lugs. Too shiny for me.
Congratulations on your new watch purchase, beautiful timepiece,wear it in good health The watch is in Great condition considering it’s my birth year There is one thing i see in all pictures of old day-dates , the end lug not hugging the case in both egdes but this looks good And to answer your question about the age to wear a day-date , I’m 31 and i think after 40’s would be better, until then i will stick to my Submariner Date 41mm that i bought last year for my 30th anniversary
The DD36 is the icon, especially in yellow gold with hour markers like yours. I don’t agree with your statement about bulkiness Of the 40mm version. The Day Date 2 was a little bit of a weird in proportion. In our days, the 40 mm is the one to have . The 36 Became Way too small , on a man’s wrist. I own a 228238. But every taste is different, so enjoy your day dates 🍻
RJ thanks for the great video as always....just to add: I switched to a DD as a daily with almost no hair left...it's an hair related watch ahaha just joking :)
I got my 118238 w/the 8+2 “Light” Champagne diamond dial for my 35th Birthday. Your never to young IMO to own the holy grail. If you can get one, get one.
beautiful watch and totally agree with your criteria, worth hunting for. I am very gray, but with young spirit, but my wife hates that kind of posh watch so I have to wear it secretly once I found it:)
Glad you finally got one after searching so long RJ 😉 . The 36mm DJ, DD and EXP look's better proportioned. The fluted bezel on the 40mm looks strange imo. 😬 I agee with the grey hair. If youre young and wearing a DD everybody think's you are a rich kid, but when you are old the look becomes more "realistic" and serious if you know what i mean.
Some 20 year olds look already older in some cases, of course 😂. Anyway, people should buy what they like and what makes them feel good. But, in our humble opinion the Day-Date works best when there are already some miles on the counter 😂
Anyone can wear a Day Date but maybe not everyone can pull it off. It shows wealth, so depending on how you got that wealth it might or might not be something you want to show.
40mm looks too “Gansta” to me. 36mm is less garish for what is already a pretty flashy watch. If the watch already yells for attention, why twist its nuts to make it scream?
@@watchingandseeing they were never capped, always solid gold on the Day-Date. However, earlier models did have hollow center links. Capped is something different though. The 18238 in this video is solid gold, including the center links.
Blasphemy and a very unpopular opinion I know, but I bought a "white gold" 36mm daydate in stainless steel from China and its perfection 😂 light, tough, looks great, if anyone asks if it's real I say no it's a rep. I love it.
Iam a hater of moder Rolex. I consider Rolex now a days going in wrong way, Rolex watch should be a masterpiece, but today's Rolex is nothing else but mass produse. But when we speak about Vintage Rolex, it is a something what can not be explaned, I consider Rolex you own as mine Grail watch.
I have a white gold one, which I find more wearable than yellow or rose gold. Completely agree that the single quick set (which I have) is annoying!
I'd like to own a 36mm yellow gold day date. I think these watches are timeless.
We think so too. Go for it!
I just bought a Datejust but I agree with you. I’m going to save money every month to get the same model. The epitome of class and style, absolutely stunning and timeless style….
I got one! A pristine 18238 with box and papers. Best watch decision I've ever made :)@@FratelloMagazine
Submariner for the young guy......
congrats on the day-date! i figure that i too would wait till at least my 40s to get one. on a separate note, it is quite sad that we now have to worry about what watches we can wear out in cities 😞
If safety is an issue in USA 🇺🇸 just carry a side arm Protect yourself
Agree the 36mm is better proportioned than the 40mm version. More timeless too.
DD40 my grail. New or DD41 used. Pre certified.
@@KaayJaay It's a great watch too.
@@timeisahumanconstruct9251 Recently manufactured Gray. Way to go. Cheaper gray as long as reputable seller
I live in Den Haag and new to the world of watches. I have a rose gold Datejust on order, could you advise if its a safety issue if I wore it out on the street late at night. Thanks
Heel goed uitgelegd 😎kijk al een paar maanden naar een day date ( ik ben grijs en 52 jaar 😅) heb zelf één explorer 36 mm …..zit als gegoten . Kijk zelf naar de black dail omdat die heel erg eruit springt als je hem ziet ,en dat vind ik mooi .voorlopig blijf ik review’s kijken van de day date ..leer elke keer weer bij over het horloge en de reis ernaartoe is ook heel erg leuk .groeten lowie
Oh and congrats on the milestone!
Thanks!
Congratulations! It's also my desire to own one...with the same configurations as yours...for now still enjoying my all gold Rolex Datejust ' til I found one in the pre-owned market...very nice content.
Grow some grey hairs, and yes! Totally agree on that, when I was 20, 30. An outdoor watch is cool and fun enough for me, now I’m hitting 43. It’s a time to think about day-date!
Yessssss. DD40 now. Gray hairs. Grail
Great video…been wearing a 18238 since 2005 (when I was 31) and also have a 228206 9DD 40 plat) the DD is just soooo good. I have a bunch of others but I LOVE the DD’s.
How’s DD treating you? Even as 30s, you like? My grail
Good review - get going on with those. Fully understand you just now having this watch. Maybe also a watch for my future - but I am already grey 😆
Robert-Jan Great video. Interested to learn that you acquired this exquisite model with B&P? I assume as it was from a fellow watch connoisseur your comfort level was greater?
Yes, very much so. I knew the seller, that always helps.
Brilliant, just spotted a couple of greys! The hunt begins! Excellent review and advice, but would expect nothing less. I agree, gold/champagne for the 36, but with white metal, perhaps 40mm...
How’s DD hunting?
The price delta on a 36 vs a daydate 40 is one jumbo spread.
That being said, looks as though 40 MM daydates that were 53K (black-Denzel face Motif) and now are closer to 42K.
Prices have come down for sure
I think in yellow 36 is the sweet spot while in a white metal I lean to the 40. I have both.
Great video...very informative
Thanks Steven, much appreciated!
I had a gold Submariner (with Tiffany stamp, no less) 35 years ago, when I was 25. Gold Rolexes are beautiful, but very flashy. You have to decide if that's the impression you want to make. These days I much prefer a Lange.
Since you're Dutch, I'll add that I sold that gold Sub with a black face and Tiffany stamp in 1992 in Wassenaar. So it's probably still floating around NL somewhere.
I have been wearing mine since I was 30. Never too young
Excellent video
LMAO stellar opening!
got my first day date today (no pun) and I'm 41 years old. It took 41 years to earn it.
Congratulations - great find. How do you find the weight of the watch? Do you not notice it after a while?
The weight is quite OK, a little bit heavier than some of the steel models I have but not as heavy as my gold Speedmaster. That one you’ll keep noticing during the day.
@@robert-janbroer8936 Thanks - another question - if you could have got one brand new from an AD, without waiting too long, rather than your vintage piece - would you have done that? And why?
@@sgoody1 No, and I will tell you why: the new Day-Dates are a bit heavier etc, but the downside are the design updates for me. The 118238 and newer refs have wider cases, losing a little bit of that elegance, and also polished surfaces on top of the lugs. Too shiny for me.
Congratulations on your new watch purchase, beautiful timepiece,wear it in good health
The watch is in Great condition considering it’s my birth year
There is one thing i see in all pictures of old day-dates , the end lug not hugging the case in both egdes but this looks good
And to answer your question about the age to wear a day-date , I’m 31 and i think after 40’s would be better, until then i will stick to my Submariner Date 41mm that i bought last year for my 30th anniversary
It often appears that way, yes. But the end links on my don’t move at all, so all fine. Enjoy your Submariner!
do they tighten the links when serviced?
Nope.
How big is your wrist? Do you think a day date with all links would fit a 7.75 inch wrist?
Depends on your location too. Miami is a natural habitat for a day-date at any age.
Very true! According to our editor Mike (from Florida), it's gold and bi-color heaven.
To go new from Authorized Dealer (AD) or used , Certified Pre Owned (CPO)?
FANTASTISCHE CONTENT
DD40 my grail. New or DD41 used. Pre certified
The DD36 is the icon, especially in yellow gold with hour markers like yours. I don’t agree with your statement about bulkiness Of the 40mm version. The Day Date 2 was a little bit of a weird in proportion. In our days, the 40 mm is the one to have . The 36 Became Way too small , on a man’s wrist. I own a 228238. But every taste is different, so enjoy your day dates 🍻
RJ thanks for the great video as always....just to add: I switched to a DD as a daily with almost no hair left...it's an hair related watch ahaha just joking :)
Makes your TH-cam username even better 😅
Very nice watch. May I ask why you chose a champagne dial? Thank you.
Simply because to me that’s the classic! But there are many different nice options out there, like a tapestry for example.
@@robert-janbroer8936 Good choice.
Congrats on getting one of your long time grails. Enjoy.
great video... my hair has turned gray for some time now, and I think it's time for me to get a day-date..
The bend is only present in older models
SUCCESS.
I bought myself a 1803 Pie pan dial with diamond bracelet for my 40th birthday. I always wanted a gold and diamond day date.
I got my 118238 w/the 8+2 “Light” Champagne diamond dial for my 35th Birthday. Your never to young IMO to own the holy grail. If you can get one, get one.
Congrats!!
I’m buying a yellow gold day date for my 35th birthday, still no gray hair but I’m sure that’s coming soon!
Yesssss DD!! Configurations?
I prefer the platinum for a daily wear. It's harder to scratch and same a white gold, it flies under the radar a bit. ;)
White gold is denser and less scratch resistant than platinum
6:15. Correct.
Hi it’s Gary! Hot watch you have there! Very Tony Soprano
Hi Gary, thanks! And if I am not mistaken, happy birthday (yesterday)! :D
Thank you Robert! 👍🥃
Warren buffett wears one. Timeless masterpiece.
What a cool watch!
What is your wrist size?
18-19cm for RJs wrist
@@FratelloMagazine I have 18cm, I am torn between 36mm / 40mm
@@divjan3990 Go 36mm, but make sure to try it first.
beautiful watch and totally agree with your criteria, worth hunting for. I am very gray, but with young spirit, but my wife hates that kind of posh watch so I have to wear it secretly once I found it:)
Try a white gold one Martijn ;-)
You need a better wife.
👌👌👌
Nice watch ,,, its not grey its wisdom.
Glad you finally got one after searching so long RJ 😉 . The 36mm DJ, DD and EXP look's better proportioned.
The fluted bezel on the 40mm looks strange imo. 😬
I agee with the grey hair. If youre young and wearing a DD everybody think's you are a rich kid, but when you are old the look becomes more "realistic" and serious if you know what i mean.
Some 20 year olds look already older in some cases, of course 😂. Anyway, people should buy what they like and what makes them feel good. But, in our humble opinion the Day-Date works best when there are already some miles on the counter 😂
There are daydate models with alligator straps. They weren't only made in precious metals
The cases were only in precious metals.
The ultimate exit watch. This one, a 321 caliber Speedmaster, a BlackBay 58 and the beater of your choice and you are covered for life.
Good thinking!
@@christga100 exit Watch simply means one stops spending ridiculous amounts of money on new watches and starts enjoying what he owns.
Anyone can wear a Day Date but maybe not everyone can pull it off. It shows wealth, so depending on how you got that wealth it might or might not be something you want to show.
Thinking about one, my 40th birthday is right around the corner 😅 so I qualify 🤣. Not so sure about the 36mm, seems small by modern standards
You should buy the one that fits you best. Don’t stare blind on numbers.
40mm looks too “Gansta” to me. 36mm is less garish for what is already a pretty flashy watch. If the watch already yells for attention, why twist its nuts to make it scream?
do you think they will go down more in price? or they will be stay at 15,000 Euro
No. Price keeps on increasing at AD. Buy gray. Cheaper.
Guess I’ll have to settle for a 36mm.
The 40mm are basically double the price
Ouch. Double pice. There’s a DD41 too. Older
i'm both losing hair and got some gray hair; definitely Day-Date time!
Does this model use cap gold ?
No, Day-Date is always solid gold.
@@FratelloMagazine The bracelet might be capped...i heard they didn't transition until some later models.
@@watchingandseeing they were never capped, always solid gold on the Day-Date. However, earlier models did have hollow center links. Capped is something different though. The 18238 in this video is solid gold, including the center links.
What if you hair turns non existent before it goes grey
Who makes their DD a Daily Wear? If you have it, wear it with pride!!
Bring back. BIG. DD41.
I have gray and just purchased a 40mm Everose President. I’m still in disbelief. Almost feel unworthy after waiting so long
Blasphemy and a very unpopular opinion I know, but I bought a "white gold" 36mm daydate in stainless steel from China and its perfection 😂 light, tough, looks great, if anyone asks if it's real I say no it's a rep. I love it.
Lol. When you get gray hair. Get a DD!!!!!
I am too skinny so my rolex hurts on my wrist, so i wear it with traditional leather straps!
That watch belongs on the wrist of 40, if not 50 year-olds, but is absolutely gorgeous. Looks great on you!
Well, with 45 I’m there :)
It's like a Porsche 911, mostly driven by an old guy, but a car for a young man... a compliment I often got as a young bachelor 😁
So---he went with the 36, not the 40?
That’s what he says
@@robert-janbroer8936😂
I believe one should grow grey old enough with grey hair to own one. Delayed gratification tastes much sweeter.
and lose hair too!
Putting a vintage style strap will make it more youthful especially with vintage datejusts.
Iam a hater of moder Rolex. I consider Rolex now a days going in wrong way, Rolex watch should be a masterpiece, but today's Rolex is nothing else but mass produse. But when we speak about Vintage Rolex, it is a something what can not be explaned, I consider Rolex you own as mine Grail watch.
Do not walk around London with that watch!
You can't wear a Rolex like this until you're at least 40. For example, Jesus could not have worn it during his lifetime.
36 is to small
so is your weener
Stretch. I hear the new DD40, stretch is less. Prevented by pins. Reinforcement. 2024. DD40