This is favorite talk by Hitchens. I go back to it time and time again. He was so sharp, and around a such small cozy crowd of what seems just like friends... that he came off as just a guy you could sit and talk with for hours upon hours just picking his brain apart trying to find out what makes him tick. He clearly loved Jefferson and the core ideals that Jefferson, I'm sure, would have been most proud of people referencing about him hundreds of years later. Hitch's eloquence and personality really shines through here and it remains consistently my favorite talk throughout the years.
4th time for me. I listen to most of his talks before going to bed. He’s got such an amazing voice. If it’s thundering and raining listening to Christopher is a treat.
Absolutely the best Hitch video. Can't figure it out, but I think it might be the cosiness. Having a smoke and a whisky while riffing on Jefferson. The other great one is his Axis of Evil lecture. Not at all adversarial, just lecturing - it's excellent.
Having watched surely all of Hitchens videos over the years in binges, this has to be his most receptive and on board audience. He’s on fire as a result.
Because most people are religious and Christopher is too intelligent for them to dare share his words or ideas on certain ways of thinking that contradict what most people have. It would be the end of religion and dogma IMO
aka linen. he wore linen suits because that's most comfortable for the more portly gent who may enjoy a drink or two in good, and especially in bad, company. linen is a bitch to iron - but it's breathable.
Whether you agree or disagree with this man, there is no doubt that he was noble and independent in his thinking compared with his contemporaries. Well read and relentlessly led by reason and fact. Nonsequitor side note: when he mistakenly says cholera in place of small pox
It kinda bums me out that Hitch was such a fan of "Q and A", because honestly the audience is almost never on the same intellectual playing field and I end up wishing he'd have just spoken for the whole period. It was a good lecture, though.
I get it in retrospect - we with the luxury of rewatching could learn more. That said, nothing helps the individuals present *at the time* than interactive discussion, particularly when the speaker was a sharp wit like Hitch. I was a naive, mid-20-something year old and had little to no interest in politics or religion at the time of this recording. I’m just grateful to be able to see this content today.
Isaiah L Yes hes in hell. So is everybody else who isn’t the same religion I am. That’s what these people get for not belonging to the right religion. Tortured for eternity for not agreeing with me. You’ll probably go to hell as well because my religion has a hell and you’ve never heard of it sooooo sucks to be you.
@@0mnicide And so hence, my mother and father in-laws reside in this "hell" as they were not only not Christians, but not even "good" Jews. I can only assume then, that all the real estate in 'Heaven" is still in a bidding war among Christians, Jews, Muslims, and yes the Mormons. Well, there goes the neighborhood.
There's so much that I like in what Christopher Hitchens says, here and elsewhere. But I think his remarks here about the relationship of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings are simplistic. Maybe he hadn't read _Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy_ (1997), by Annette Gordon-Reede (a remarkable biographer of Jefferson), which is the fairest analysis of the controversy that I've ever encountered.
He's also in error, at 17:30, when he says that all Sally Hemings's children "passed as white" in the 1830 census. For one thing, two of them, the elder Harriet and an unnamed daughter, had died, in 1797 and 1799, respectively. Two of her sons chose to be known in their adult lives as black, even though they were seven eighths white.
It's also not true that "you can get a wonderful book now with pictures of all the descendants from both sides of Jefferson's family", if the pictures are supposed to be from life.
A lot of social justice is due to adherents of the philosophy of John Rawls or contractualist ethics. Rawlsian creative efforts like certain universities like SNHU and organizations like the Linux Foundation take human rights to the point of racial justice. There are other Rationalist ethical theories like Kantian ethics which are ruled-based but criminals are guilty; and the guilty are not considered sinners. This rationalism is crucial to the management of globalization.
It may have been a blessing that Christopher passed before he would have witnessed this hapless administration. I think that would have killed him for sure.
40:15 - 'huge surplus'? You mean the £40billion deficit he ran in 2005/06? (Not huge in percentage terms - under 3% of GDP, I think - but hardly a surplus, let alone a huge one.)
***** I'm not referring to your supposed dialectic superiority (usually just Dunning-Kruger effect at work), but your general psychiatric malaise, and unpleasantness, which manifests itself in wanting to argue everything no matter how trivial and masturbate your ego at every chance.
29:50 This somewhat inaccurate. For instance, in the case of Germany it is somewhat of a misappropriation to say that despotism, in the shape of Emperor Willhelm II., caused the German "Empire" to join the war. The British angle on history usually completely omits to mention that the German Realm had a parliament. In fact the parliament was there before the "empire". This "Empire" was "founded" in 1871 at the end of the Franco-German war, while democracy in the shape of a parliament had existed in differing iterations since 1848. The social reforms Realm Chancellor Bismarck introduced represent his considered effort to thwart the SPD, which he despised and persecuted. In this context it needs to be said that this parliament supported the war, the declaration of war actually enjoyed wide spread public support. Hence democracy was co-responsible for WWI. And the UN had a predecessor, the League of Nations.
Aw, it faded out at a critique of Winston Churchill pre 1946. It did not go on to, in some way absolve WC of his failings up to this point and presumably go on to praise WC of his resolute and steadfast opposition to the threats of fascism. "we shall go on to the end....."
I somewhat agree. did you know that all of Maria Medici's children were kings, queens, and consorts of such of England, France, Spain, and half of the rest of Europe. Maria Medici is Roman/Italian.
"Faith is not a virtue" as he takes a drag and sips his whiskey. Classic Hitch. Anyone who wants to evaluate ole Hitch merely has to watch his response at 35:00. Clearly an example of an overinflated ego and unjustified sense of worth.
I wish I could hear him shred The Trump administration... just one 5 minute stream of consciousness tirade.. I'm so fkng tired of the placated western media..
*"The most fortunate of us, in our journey through life, frequently meet with calamities and misfortunes which may greatly afflict us; and, to fortify our minds against the attacks of these calamities and misfortunes should be one of the principal studies and endeavors of our lives. The only method of doing this is to assume a perfect resignation to the Divine will, to consider that whatever does happen, must happen; and that, by our uneasiness, we cannot prevent the blow before it does fall, but we may add to its force after it has fallen. These considerations, and others such as these, may enable us in some measure to surmount the difficulties thrown in our way; to bear up with a tolerable degree of patience under the burden of life; and to proceed with a pious and unshaken resignation, till we arrive at our journey's end, when we may deliver up our trust into the hands of Him who gave it, and receive such reward as to him shall seem proportioned to our merit." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Page, Jul. 15, 1763*
Paine: Who, Trump? I'm going back to England. In fact, I would be very interested to see if the 'American experiment' has been for the better or worse, according to lives saved, lives lost, and so on.
I should, indeed, with peculiar delight, have met and exchanged there congratulations personally with the small band, the remnant of that host of worthies who joined with us on that day, in the bold and doubtful election we were to make for our country, between submission or the sword; and to have enjoyed with them the consolatory fact, that our fellow citizens, after half a century of experience and prosperity, continue to approve the choice we made. May it be to the world, what I believe it will be (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all), the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. That form which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God. These are grounds of hope for others. For ourselves, let the annual return of this day forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them. -- Thomas Jefferson to Roger C. Weightman on June 24, 1826
Hitchens' view of the so-called founding fathers was myopic at best. They delivered an unworkable political system based on the only political system they knew - the British monarchy - gave it a new name and called it a democracy. Then Americans spent a couple of hundred years amending the system to get it to work properly and it's still just as dysfunctional as it was back then. Rather than being revered, the founding fathers should be reviled and would be if they hadn't had the benefit of a few hundred years of great PR and a credulous audience.
Hitch is correct about at least having a Constitution that says otherwise. The top 1% chooses to amend or not follow it. Most of us are too myopic to do much but vote for the lessor of two evils. And the two evils are pretty much the same guy.
@@joeruiz4010 . and you sound clueless. If that's all you can come up with as far as intelligent replies are concerned you probably should stop watching Hitchens videos and concentrate on basket weaving.
The comment at around forty minutes is interesting. He has already mentioned Hillary Clinton, then he says he thinks we have seen the end of social democracy. In a rare instance here, Hitch has missed the tells of some important players.
Hitchens was a very good writer and orator but he made a great number of mistakes in his writings and was wrong about many things. But I guess that’s true for many thinkers
What fallacies? John and Samuel Adams, Benjamin Rush, James Wilson, Roger Sherman, and George Mason all knew about Sally Hemmings being Jefferson's Sex Slave. Wilson, Sherman, and Samuel Adams reviled Jefferson. Heck, Jefferson practically plagiarized Benjamin Rush.
The hijacking and misuse of religion is the problem . NOT RELIGION.Humanity requires a mechanism to express metaphysical depths that nature's under pinning's exist beyond the limits of lineal essential constraints for language to work..
If 'God' allows free will, it is clear that the Deity has no need to know whatever future humans bring forth, ergo the exclusivity of Calvinism is unnecessary.
allamakee1397 What’s wrong with being content with yourself and deriving pleasure from others good nature towards you? If you’re not inherently evil or manipulative then it seems to me a perfectly good thing.
don't ever delete this masterpiece of intellect
This is favorite talk by Hitchens. I go back to it time and time again. He was so sharp, and around a such small cozy crowd of what seems just like friends... that he came off as just a guy you could sit and talk with for hours upon hours just picking his brain apart trying to find out what makes him tick. He clearly loved Jefferson and the core ideals that Jefferson, I'm sure, would have been most proud of people referencing about him hundreds of years later. Hitch's eloquence and personality really shines through here and it remains consistently my favorite talk throughout the years.
i think this is my new favourite too
Well said ✌️
4th time for me. I listen to most of his talks before going to bed. He’s got such an amazing voice. If it’s thundering and raining listening to Christopher is a treat.
Absolutely the best Hitch video. Can't figure it out, but I think it might be the cosiness. Having a smoke and a whisky while riffing on Jefferson.
The other great one is his Axis of Evil lecture. Not at all adversarial, just lecturing - it's excellent.
We don’t see great minds like Mr. Hitchens too often. Especially today. I miss him dearly.
Hitch? Whiskey? Jefferson?...strap in.
Hitch ... marijuana??..... cocaine??? tobacco 😢
Dicks out for Harambe
My people.
He's so fucking cool, I envy how much he oozes charisma.
Weird, sad
He may be gone but he will forever be my teacher.....
Having watched surely all of Hitchens videos over the years in binges, this has to be his most receptive and on board audience. He’s on fire as a result.
Wonderful man!! So sorry he is not with us anymore, I don't know why they do not show him to the world through tv
Because most people are religious and Christopher is too intelligent for them to dare share his words or ideas on certain ways of thinking that contradict what most people have.
It would be the end of religion and dogma IMO
0:31 That look to the whisky. So lucrative and genuine.
Now Jefferson's own descendants are petitioning to remove his monuments from our nation's capitol
That’s because they are 21st century morons.
Christopher died, and the world went to shit. Would love to hear him respond to current mess.
You made that comment and the world went to shit even more
I think the cracks must've existed back then. Now it's up to us to uphold our principles in this age.
We all love that he looks like he hasn't slept and has been wearing the same clothes for a week. :-)
aka linen. he wore linen suits because that's most comfortable for the more portly gent who may enjoy a drink or two in good, and especially in bad, company. linen is a bitch to iron - but it's breathable.
fyi Turnbull & Asser shirt
Whether you agree or disagree with this man, there is no doubt that he was noble and independent in his thinking compared with his contemporaries. Well read and relentlessly led by reason and fact.
Nonsequitor side note: when he mistakenly says cholera in place of small pox
He was pretty smashed here (see the whisky in the mug), but his intelligence and fluency just shone through amazingly.
charm
sometimes you need to blunt the interlect to make it available to a greater number of users
It kinda bums me out that Hitch was such a fan of "Q and A", because honestly the audience is almost never on the same intellectual playing field and I end up wishing he'd have just spoken for the whole period. It was a good lecture, though.
exactly. They try, but the questions fall short of his intellect.
I get it in retrospect - we with the luxury of rewatching could learn more. That said, nothing helps the individuals present *at the time* than interactive discussion, particularly when the speaker was a sharp wit like Hitch. I was a naive, mid-20-something year old and had little to no interest in politics or religion at the time of this recording. I’m just grateful to be able to see this content today.
53:55 - Best part. Christopher Hitchens was so witty.
Oooh put your hand in. Oooh, put your other hand in. Yes! Yes!! Now, CLAP!
I can't clap!
Told you I was tight!
If you're looking for a video with Hitchens at his most hilarious, this is your video.
Aaron Warren he has done jokes on stage.
I am always looking for videos where he's more serious. His jokes deviate the attention from knowledge to ®≠^€¥π¥×™ and i cant get through it
Miss this man.
A great American . . .
I wonder what we would say about the current affairs in the U.S. today
Well he is in Hell, theres no communion there. And the fire never dies.
Isaiah L Yes hes in hell. So is everybody else who isn’t the same religion I am. That’s what these people get for not belonging to the right religion. Tortured for eternity for not agreeing with me. You’ll probably go to hell as well because my religion has a hell and you’ve never heard of it sooooo sucks to be you.
@@0mnicide And so hence, my mother and father in-laws reside in this "hell" as they were not only not Christians, but not even "good" Jews. I can only assume then, that all the real estate in 'Heaven" is still in a bidding war among Christians, Jews, Muslims, and yes the Mormons. Well, there goes the neighborhood.
I like this. It's the most..."informal" video of him I've ever seen.
he's drunk as hell
Thats the awesome bit :)
Dawkins released your last interview on my birthday this year. Pure coincidence, no significance… except for me, it was a nice birthday present!
55:00 pissed my self laughing... What a wit that man had!
'Before it's too late' was completely perfect.
Too much booze and cigs. If only he practised moderation he probably still be alive today.
19:00 Can't do that anymore (Chris having a square during Q&A). It's hard to have a cigarette on planet Earth anymore these days.
bro just go outside
Miss hitch 😪
The core of Hitchens it's here: Sec 27:00 to 27:32
18:30 23:25 37:05 40:57 55:00
IT’S HIS CRYSTAL BLUE EYES AND HIS SEXUAL CHARISMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a guy, he would be running rife with criticism on the current state of affair's.
That was below the belt! George did not engage in any act of oil for profit.
There's so much that I like in what Christopher Hitchens says, here and elsewhere. But I think his remarks here about the relationship of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings are simplistic. Maybe he hadn't read _Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy_ (1997), by Annette Gordon-Reede (a remarkable biographer of Jefferson), which is the fairest analysis of the controversy that I've ever encountered.
He's also in error, at 17:30, when he says that all Sally Hemings's children "passed as white" in the 1830 census. For one thing, two of them, the elder Harriet and an unnamed daughter, had died, in 1797 and 1799, respectively. Two of her sons chose to be known in their adult lives as black, even though they were seven eighths white.
It's also not true that "you can get a wonderful book now with pictures of all the descendants from both sides of Jefferson's family", if the pictures are supposed to be from life.
Bottle of red, cigarette and the hitch x
A lot of social justice is due to adherents of the philosophy of John Rawls or contractualist ethics. Rawlsian creative efforts like certain universities like SNHU and organizations like the Linux Foundation take human rights to the point of racial justice. There are other Rationalist ethical theories like Kantian ethics which are ruled-based but criminals are guilty; and the guilty are not considered sinners. This rationalism is crucial to the management of globalization.
Wonderfull
....drink your beer before it gets cold. I'll have to use that phrase at some point.
only in europe
Comrades
It may have been a blessing that Christopher passed before he would have witnessed this hapless administration. I think that would have killed him for sure.
Biden was in the same ilk as Clinton. Hitchens would have lambasted him. And Trump as well.
Not one time did I see him exhale from each drag of a cigarette 😮
Pat Robertson has gone to our reward.
40:15 - 'huge surplus'? You mean the £40billion deficit he ran in 2005/06? (Not huge in percentage terms - under 3% of GDP, I think - but hardly a surplus, let alone a huge one.)
Aaaand today your choice is Biden, or Trump ~ the candidacy has shrunk even more!
Look how deeply he takes in the cigarette. No wonder he got cancer.
журналист RIP Christopher Hitchens
***** Why are "skeptics" always complete arseholes?
***** I'm not referring to your supposed dialectic superiority (usually just Dunning-Kruger effect at work), but your general psychiatric malaise, and unpleasantness, which manifests itself in wanting to argue everything no matter how trivial and masturbate your ego at every chance.
***** Talk about projection. You were the one who started the 'holier than thou' tone.
Hitchens actually had the same form of esophageal cancer from which his father had died
Folder of time
1:10 'change only the name and the story is about you' Virgil (in Latin)
2:25 once people work out God is not going to help you, you get the enlightenment
3:44 Thomas Paine enters the chat
5:07 rewriting John Locke
14:34 note
Did Dennis Hopper introduce him?
42:20 - He could very well be describing America since the separatists took power.
15:30 31:50 41:25 43:37 59:30 1:05:40 1:07:05
😂46:23
29:50 This somewhat inaccurate. For instance, in the case of Germany it is somewhat of a
misappropriation to say that despotism, in the shape of Emperor Willhelm II., caused the German "Empire" to join the war. The British angle on history usually completely omits to mention that the German Realm had a parliament. In fact the parliament was there before the "empire". This "Empire" was "founded" in 1871 at the end of the Franco-German war, while democracy in the shape of a parliament had existed in differing iterations since 1848. The social reforms Realm Chancellor Bismarck introduced represent his considered effort to thwart the SPD, which he despised and persecuted. In this context it needs to be said that this parliament supported the war, the declaration of war actually enjoyed wide spread public support. Hence democracy was co-responsible for WWI.
And the UN had a predecessor, the League of Nations.
The poster of this wonderful talk; is that James "V" o r James the 5 th 😄
Latin quote at start is from Horace.
De te fabula narratur. - one of Karl Marx's favourite quotes.
( from Horace ).
Aw, it faded out at a critique of Winston Churchill pre 1946. It did not go on to, in some way absolve WC of his failings up to this point and presumably go on to praise WC of his resolute and steadfast opposition to the threats of fascism. "we shall go on to the end....."
the roman empire never fell it's even bigger now
I somewhat agree. did you know that all of Maria Medici's children were kings, queens, and consorts of such of England, France, Spain, and half of the rest of Europe. Maria Medici is Roman/Italian.
lol. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
America Romans of the modern world
When in 2006 was this?
"Faith is not a virtue" as he takes a drag and sips his whiskey. Classic Hitch. Anyone who wants to evaluate ole Hitch merely has to watch his response at 35:00. Clearly an example of an overinflated ego and unjustified sense of worth.
I wish I could hear him shred The Trump administration... just one 5 minute stream of consciousness tirade.. I'm so fkng tired of the placated western media..
😊
Did the woman at 38:00 not know where she was?
*"The most fortunate of us, in our journey through life, frequently meet with calamities and misfortunes which may greatly afflict us; and, to fortify our minds against the attacks of these calamities and misfortunes should be one of the principal studies and endeavors of our lives. The only method of doing this is to assume a perfect resignation to the Divine will, to consider that whatever does happen, must happen; and that, by our uneasiness, we cannot prevent the blow before it does fall, but we may add to its force after it has fallen. These considerations, and others such as these, may enable us in some measure to surmount the difficulties thrown in our way; to bear up with a tolerable degree of patience under the burden of life; and to proceed with a pious and unshaken resignation, till we arrive at our journey's end, when we may deliver up our trust into the hands of Him who gave it, and receive such reward as to him shall seem proportioned to our merit." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Page, Jul. 15, 1763*
Paine: Who, Trump? I'm going back to England.
In fact, I would be very interested to see if the 'American experiment' has been for the better or worse, according to lives saved, lives lost, and so on.
I should, indeed, with peculiar delight, have met and exchanged there congratulations personally with the small band, the remnant of that host of worthies who joined with us on that day, in the bold and doubtful election we were to make for our country, between submission or the sword; and to have enjoyed with them the consolatory fact, that our fellow citizens, after half a century of experience and prosperity, continue to approve the choice we made. May it be to the world, what I believe it will be (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all), the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. That form which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God. These are grounds of hope for others. For ourselves, let the annual return of this day forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them.
-- Thomas Jefferson to Roger C. Weightman on June 24, 1826
Hitchens' view of the so-called founding fathers was myopic at best.
They delivered an unworkable political system based on the only political system they knew - the British monarchy - gave it a new name and called it a democracy. Then Americans spent a couple of hundred years amending the system to get it to work properly and it's still just as dysfunctional as it was back then.
Rather than being revered, the founding fathers should be reviled and would be if they hadn't had the benefit of a few hundred years of great PR and a credulous audience.
Agreed 💯
Hitch is correct about at least having a Constitution that says otherwise. The top 1% chooses to amend or not follow it. Most of us are too myopic to do much but vote for the lessor of two evils. And the two evils are pretty much the same guy.
You sound like Kim Jong Un and Pol Pot. Such wonderful company to be in.
@@joeruiz4010 and you sound like a clueless moron with nothing intelligent to say.
Try telling me what was incorrect about what I said dickhead.
@@joeruiz4010 . and you sound clueless. If that's all you can come up with as far as intelligent replies are concerned you probably should stop watching Hitchens videos and concentrate on basket weaving.
Cat
The comment at around forty minutes is interesting. He has already mentioned Hillary Clinton, then he says he thinks we have seen the end of social democracy. In a rare instance here, Hitch has missed the tells of some important players.
Hillary isn't a leftist. She just decided to pose as one with Bill.
OMG. it's the " here in my backyard, asshole, again!
53:55🤣
Hitchens was a very good writer and orator but he made a great number of mistakes in his writings and was wrong about many things. But I guess that’s true for many thinkers
He started missing the mark after 911.
I see Mr. Hitchens fell for the fallacies begun by Fawn Brodie regarding Sally Hemings. This has been refuted by so much research.
What fallacies? John and Samuel Adams, Benjamin Rush, James Wilson, Roger Sherman, and George Mason all knew about Sally Hemmings being Jefferson's Sex Slave.
Wilson, Sherman, and Samuel Adams reviled Jefferson. Heck, Jefferson practically plagiarized Benjamin Rush.
The hijacking and misuse of religion is the problem . NOT RELIGION.Humanity requires a mechanism to express metaphysical depths that nature's under pinning's exist beyond the limits of lineal essential constraints for language to work..
Have you ever read the bible?
@@1984isnotamanualAssuming you have read the bible. May I ask for a basic translation for the creation story for additional context or insight.
Bingo
If 'God' allows free will, it is clear that the Deity has no need to know whatever future humans bring forth, ergo the exclusivity of Calvinism is unnecessary.
If self governance were a sport this man could not hold Thomas Jefferson's jock strap.
Such a brilliant man, shortened his life by sucking down those burning chemicals.. what a waste.
He would shit himself if he seen all the Islam left wing cucks and stupidity these days.
stevie price shocking how quickly everything fell apart once we lost George Carlin, Hitchens and others like them.
an obelisk is a grave stone of a freemason.
He sure likes himself and he likes others liking him.
allamakee1397 A good thing that.
allamakee1397 What’s wrong with being content with yourself and deriving pleasure from others good nature towards you? If you’re not inherently evil or manipulative then it seems to me a perfectly good thing.
envy is a deadly sin. i suspect you already know that.
@@painstruck01 lmfao you think he was worried
@@fishfingers8441 do i think who is worried?