Christopher Hitchens on Why Orwell Matters + Q&A (2002)
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- Journalist and intellectual Christopher Hitchens explained to a packed house how George Orwell's musings resonate as strongly today as they did over half a century ago.
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I've read most of Orwell's books but I would never buy anything from Amazon- a disgusting community destroying entity ran by a man so wealthy yet still chooses to pay his his workers the minimum wages possible. His working conditions are so bad- long hours, low pay, that ALL of his adverts in the UK are about how happy his workers (Actors) are... Amazon factories are the nearest a corporation can get to an open prison- minus the windows.
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@@stephenmcdonagh2795 Monopoly = Tyranny. Where is today's Teddy Roosevelt?
Chris would never approve of the Stalinist and at the same time contradictory exploitation of it s workers that is Amazon
I wish he was alive to give his insights in 2022
Insights into anything in particular?
@@douglasfreeman3229 postmodernism particularly
I think he would say "are you adults or children?"
@@chrispercival9789 he did, and he nailed it with 6 sentences.
He would've been cencored
As each generation comes about , there is always a renewal of ignorance and a need for another Christopher Hitchens
Let me know when his/her mixtape drops, I would love to know what he would have to say today.
Sad thing is, there is probably nobody around with a similar upbringing in a time of debates, formation of countries and spanning the two continents such a person would be expected from.
Well put 👌🏻🤍
Oh How I miss the Hitch!
I still read his books bit it's not the same knowing that he's no longer among us.
He would be having a field day today woth all this woke transgender bullshit.
We can all do our best to try to defeat none evidence based belief systems. I hope we will explain on every occasion why we are none believers.
@@Cantbuyathrill 💯 in cahoots with your sentiment, oh, transgender today, a microwave tomorrow, they don’t want to know what they are.
Again, I am compelled to have at hand a dictionary/thesaurus when encountering Christopher Hitchens' written or spoken pieces. Listening to, or reading any of Mr. Hitchens' work was in itself an education. Although I am, by now, reconciled to the fact that we will never again be stimulated by pieces of oratory or literature by this intellectual gargantuan, our loss, by his death (not passing) cannot be overstated.
Me too. A massive intellect.
So to honour him- continue his fight- as best we can! Apparently it’s more important now than ever!!
Well said. He was and IS a beautiful brilliant soul.
What a powerful and eloquent tribute sir!
I couldn’t agree more! He would be proud if he knew ( or could know) some us us fights as our abilities allows us. So as suggested please continue his work. And I’m shock to see the believer’s efforts to try to keep their sheep a way from asking perhaps the most important question. The evidence for this entity. Where’s is the evidence for such an entity. This fine tuning example is just nonsense. If the universe wasn’t supportive of life we wouldn’t be here. So it doesn’t matter how few or small chances there could be before it wasn’t fit for life. It happens to be as simple as it is. Anthropic principle. And if we take it to either multi verse or an infinite universe then in both cases it will happen sooner or later- or right now which is obviously not to debate. Religion poisons everything and it is easy to see why. Frankly it is quite easy to make a case for a devil than for an almighty entity who has been notorious wrong. Empower women and we see progress and a society in growth. A lot of what I write is written by Mr Hitchens before. And not to brag but I’ve have done my best to enlighten people why death is a gift as soon you know to live while you can. There’s is no sequel. Live to give these indoctrinated people freedom to dare to question whatever faith they have been upbringing with. Set them free if we ever will experience peace on this earth!.
When Grandpa came to the U.S. in the 30s ,at Ellis Island at 14.Paid his own way by the way.They would ask a group of questions. The main one was "Do you believe in a supreme being "? Gramps said "of course ".He passed the test. But under his breath he was saying "I am the supreme being.'He told me that 60 years later, it's the greatest story ever.
Good on you, grandpa!
Hahaha love it
Yeah!
Shut up
Yes, and then you have the world you have when each man wants to play God.
People do so much need to listen to Christopher Hitchens today.
I am.
@@skippy9659 no, his insights remain as valid now as ever. He has at least another decade before the veil of hindsight starts to pick him apart. But he'll have a renaissance later, I feel.
Can you imagine a rightwinger, MAGA or or Qanon brains spending one whole minute listening to or attempting to comprehend anything he mentions. Those who need to it most. No chance. America is f’d for the next 40 years or so.
"The atmosphere of a society where individual private life is absolutely pointless, and where everything that is not absolutely compulsory is absolutely forbidden." 10:40
I appreciate hitchens, a great character and an original mind..
A beautiful mind
a good commie
Thank Goodness for these recorded interviews. Hitch was a Giant of a scholar
What an intellect and command of the language. Unrivalled. One of the keenest sources of knowledge in underlying causes for so many states of the world and cultures.
Hitchens was brilliant. ❤️❤️❤️
Hitch is a Hero in my opinion, and I reckon this could be one of his best. Cheers Hitch and TH-cam.
Ah Christopher…that cough mate 😢 Miss this guy.
It’s a smoker cough that all heavy smokers have but I agree it reminds us of future developments
Man, I miss him so much. Rest with peace and God-bless your soul Christopher...
''God-bless your soul''?
@@charlesmills6621 "?"-?
@@arkiposeturi3186 kiddo this is not an opportunity to spread your wicked doctrine - keep that to yourself and away from civil society.
@@rockenOne I spread my feelings to him, but you spreading your ignorance to me, Which is OK. Because I don't give a c*** to you and to that what do you mean. I hope you feel good at least better, Because you are miserable.
@@arkiposeturi3186 ...Wishing god on dead atheists is an act of mental vacuuity or Z list trolling
"I know they're in trouble if they're coming to me".
And that's why I love this guy!!!!
@ 54:05
In 2022 we beg to differ.
Sociopaths are given air time on major TV shows.
About ⅓ of Americans are willing to lean towards sociopathy in order to (against their general well-being) empower a theocratic oligarchy.
We live in interesting times.
I wish Christopher was still here helping us.....
You have put it briefly and succinctly. This is not easy to do.
Perhaps never before have we needed Hitch more than we do now. Political correctness, intersectionality, critical race theory, BLM, big tech censorship, etc
I mean there are many of us opposed to these blights...I'm not sure what one particularly incisive but ultimately powerless journalist would've done anyway really.
Perhaps it's for the best he never lived to see such times.
@KMN 0341-Agree💯percent!
Political Correctness, however people like to interpret that, has been around for decades.
Hitchens was pro gay, pro feminist and anti racist, sounds pretty "politically correct," by some people's standards.
But he did say what he thought and we could do with that nowadays, for sure.
But, I'd also bet my life savings that he wouldn't be wearing a MAGA hat! 😉
Hitchens ultimately predicted the coming phenomenon of Trump and Trumpism when in the 90s he warned of two things: the banality of politics as consensus which supressed the essential division of politics and masked a very divided society, and the inevitable phenomenon of white people and men would soon be fully joining in the culture of victimhood and the tribal conformity that comes with it.
Fool! You don't get Hitch at all!
28:35 and onwards, when Hitchen's is discussing post-modernists, oh boy, did he underestimate that group. They've become the very thing people like him and Orwell have warned us about.
who are the post-modernists today, and what makes them post-modernists?
Of course they dont know - postmodernism being a simple byword for reactionary distaste of certain current elements. I dont care much for it, and while I am an admirer of Hitchens myself - i am quite certain that the man would have had little personal respect for the fawning legion of internet fans he had around him. He appreciated the attention, sure; alas not them as indivuals. This is a man set against all recieved wisdom. And surely it does his values disservice to lap up his words as these people do to fit their own taste. They will find the man difficult to mold to their liking if they really care to examine his convictions. Before searching up postmodernism, they ought to look up dissenter first.
@@nickko4042 I think I know what I refer to as "post-modernism", and there's a rare debate where Hitchens is debating these sorts of nefarious beings - and he makes his feelings on them VERY CLEAR - he finds them nefarious and authoritarian.
Sorry buddy, but there's video record, so you can't twist this part of history.... yet.
@@magicbuns4868 my man, surely hitchens knows. But what does it mean to you? I was speaking of your usage. Perhaps you ought to read bit more precisely. I am pointing out the irony of Hitchens's fans gripping onto his coattails - in spite of the man's putative values. I am pointing out the attitude - that very attitude of you insisting on piggybacking on his words.
Would it please you if i told you that I am a huge admirer of Hitchens as well? It is for this very reason I dislike to see so much head-nodding around this part of internet, because Hitchens had the gut for sensing danger in baseless idolatry. So perhaps you practice the values he did, speak for yourself - as an individual. Pray tell me what you think postmodernism is and why you are against it?
@@nickko4042 Oh, I understand your point, this was an irony of his "new atheist" movement. He had a growing cult following, particularly distinct with the whole "atheist" thing. I think this is a tragedy of Hitchens tbh.
I like him because we both loved Orwell and his loves shows through to me - his points about language are often inspied by Orwell (and so many other of his points). My issue with him, is that he focused on the old dogmas, particularly Christianity, which was an open goal. He treated it like going after Christianity was a very important mission, when really, it was low hanging fruit.
I much prefer Orwell's position, the old dogmas are bad, but at least they have books to ground them. The dangers of new dogmas, is that they can change within a moment, and your whole life can be upended (e.g. sent to a work camp). There was always an irony in Hitchens position. I thought he should have focused on political correctness, because insidious elements were just using terms like "Islamophobia" to bring in the notion that "free speech" is a bad thing.
Hitchens chose the wrong dogmas to go after.
edit:- defining an ideology is a pointless endeavor, because no one ever agrees on a fixed definition. I find it better to list out the doctrines of their adherents.
To keep it brief, the main three that PM's propose are:-
1) Reality is shaped fully by your perspective, to the point there is no objectivity at all, absolutely everything, is a social construct. For example, if you want to change gender, you can, because all "gender is, is a social construct. More so, 2 + 2 =/= 4, so even though the trans debate is what's being used to force it into the mainstream, this is only opening the door for the ruling classes to deny the basic obvious.
2) Cultural relativism. For example, paedophilia is bad in western societies, and we should punish westerners for it. However, we should accept such blazon differences in other cultures. To do otherwise, is bigotry.
3) The victim oppression hierarchy. Whites, and east/south Asians (and any race that comes from a country challenging US supremacy) is on top, and deserves punishing, and the more victimised you are, the more privileges you should be allotted. Of course, they word it in the opposite way, but this is the meaning behind Orwell's famous quote "War is Peace..."
I've read Foucault, and others, and I've attended university, so I have had this stuff thrown into my face. I ain't a fan of people like Jordan Peterson (Slavok Zizek is my kind of man ;) ), but to avoid what I call the Voldermort effect, I give my dogmas names, even if they purposefully avoid doing so (thus making it harder to argue against them).
1 thing I never forgot after reading it over 20 years ago about Orwell >>> Orwell once explained to his fellow Etonian Christopher Hollis why he read the Catholic press: “I like to see what they enemy is up to.” Typically, Orwell would find out that "the enemy" was up to no good.
and that he was the enemy himself as revealed shortly before his demise!
"Are we becoming a nation of sociopaths?"
"No."
Ah, Hitch, not even you 2021 coming.
He lived in New York though...Depends...Only a small percentage of the USA is buying this...the media and the hypochondriacs.
I don't think we are nations of sociopaths in the west, I think we the captive minds financing a very powerful corruption of the international security state.
A more powerful enemy has never existed, it will be one big bang.
Thank you for posting.
Good to know someone does.
I've listened to dozens of hours of this man's thoughts and debates. I thought I heard his best refutations and insights - until I heard this. 😮
Thank you.
I think to say "everyone needs to listen to Hitchens" would be the farthest thing from what Chris would want. Everyone can take direction from Hitch? Yes, but the responsibility to look into the abyss is our own. To make the man into an idol is to cheapen the values he lived and wished to pass on. These aren't "his" ideas, they are the logic of the human mind.
I think he sold out in 2001... But like you said, there's too much focus on personalities. Every alcoholic I know loves him.
Brilliant upload. Many thanks.
One of my heroes Bertrand Russell,said or foresaw almost every thing that later happened in USSR. not to mention all his 99 other books
@klaus, Russell also for saw the imperial istic nature of the west and trying to impose their will on China and China will be forced to increase her military spending in order to match the west. He predicted this in the 1920s after visited Beijing and that is exactly what is happening now 😊.
Must buy christophers books
@ 27:01
Objective truth?
Good question.
Today is 2/2/22.
Lies are broadcast as facts every single day. 🤦♂️
We live in interesting times.
Objective truth is being banned
... a great shame Hitch left so prematurely... He would've been a desperately effective sharp blade against the cultural saboteurs that proliferate and run rampant in the degraded west here in 2022...
O gone to soon ,
The bell of Truth rings still .
Very interesting stuff.
When was this recorded?
CH was without doubt the most eloquent speaker at least in the anglophone world that ever lived
Orwell used post war East Germany as a model for 1984. Stasi Stalinist KGB horror show. Colonel Putin hadn’t yet arrived. That was 1984+1. Putin’s day job consisting of cutting out favorable newspaper clippings similar to another guy whose name I can remember.
I fucking wish I could write half as good as he could speak.
Study, constantly...
If you listen to "God is not Great" he defines how he came to earn that ability. It is not impossible. It only takes time.
You could start by learning that the correct word is “well”, not “good”.
I love antiques - and you, Jay Leno, are a walking antique, and antiquarian. Always a joy to watch your reviews. Thankyou !
Simply the best.....then and now.....
I had a little weep when he asked for a moment of silence and for solidatory in relation to Australians targetted by fundamentalist islamist terrorists. I am Australian and assume that despite the publication date, he has to be referring to the Bali bombings in 2002. I've already wept today about the disgusting horrific attacks on two mosques in our neighbouring New Zealand by right wing haters, at least one of whom is Australian. The reactionary radio & TV shockjocks and moronic (in the case of our pm a fundamentalist christian) politicians have a lot to answer for in making hatred of specific groups on any grounds acceptable.
But not the Islamist responsible for the Bali bombings?!?!?!?
@@johnvannewhouse Not what? If you're suggesting I didn't weep at the time for my fellow Australians killed in Bali, you are wrong. If you're suggesting I don't think the Islamists responsible are disgusting fanatics, wrong again.
Dose anybody know the exact translations of the French phrases Hitchens used?
Sociopath? Clinton? Too bad he’s not around in 2021. He would revise his definitions.
Don't think he would revise his interpretation of the Clintons but certainly would have more than a few things to say about Trumpism and it's polar opposite using similar tactics... Transactivism.
Yes, Trump made the Clintons supposed transgressions fairly small potatoes.
You hope he would, but really, you still supporter Bill Clinton and excused his actions - made clear by your comment.
@@steveconn you should be embarresed for letting such a vacuous inane chain of thought find its way to your fingers.
That which isn’t compulsory is forbidden.
Hitchens is one of those whose opinions I would most consider in regard to socio-political issues but he obviously missed the mark about so many of us not being sociopaths.
The hopeful words he gave at 54:15 were just that. As much as he reveres Orwell and his prescient observations about the true nature of humanity, he sadly missed the author's message and warnings while describing us at this point in the interview. This is probably the only instance where I have seen Hitchens say something with so much naive(?) optimism. I do however love this about him and hope the comment shows others something about his character and love for humanity that so few people recognised in him until his later years.
There are "good" people as he describes in our society (and they might even still be the silent majority today) but the polarism and extremism that has exploded in Western culture, especially in the last six years, has been something that it seems only Orwell could have predicted. The unbridled inflammatory rhetoric afforded by VPN protected computers (the effect of which he also did not predict-but I digress) and (mysteriously permitted) pseudonyms on platforms like Twitter are whipping up a lot of otherwise decorum-suppressed opinions in others. It seems that only the most insightful and emotionally mature might avoid being affected.
Vaccinations and lockdowns due to the COVID-19 pandemic are two of the most profound and polarising issues that we have faced in recent times. CRT, BLM and the woke/anti woke issues are also vociferously contested and all are producing rhetoric on the extremes of both sides that might be considered by some to be sociopathic. One could have a good idea about what Hitchens would be saying today, and there are currently some brave people who are holding the torch for logic and justice, but it is very sad that Hitch, with his boundless charisma and erudition is no longer with us to enlighten us with his signature eloquence.
His voice is missed, even if your dark prognostication is coming to fruition. It's always the light in the darkness and rarely the other way around.
Trial and error seems to trump the heeding of wisdom in human history, and more often than not, the error must be repeated ad nauseam before the lesson becomes broadly apparent.
But if we see (by first-hand experience, not media representation) how the average man is responding to the covid and woke phenomena, we note a cynical tone; the masses are not remaining enthralled for long by these affronts to common sense. The turnaround on realizing they got duped is getting shorter every time.
16:39 the greatest test is the ability to handle contradictions
34:17
He couldn't've predicted the social media technocratic monopolies I guess.
Yeah, that stuck out to me, too. It was 2002, after all.
Buying Hitchens on Amazon would be an act of blindness .Amazon s treatment of it s workers. Chris would never approve of such a purchase.
He even would less approve of being called "Chris" - which casts a light on the superficiality of your whataboutism.
Just a question. How is Iran not passing that point where the question becomes... where is this country actually going with this? Is Iran just trying to teach capitalism a lesson? I seriously doubt this is this case. Capitalism is flawed. something which is not a secret to nobody. But fighting or not fighting it is a whole different dilemma. Iran without Capitalism makes no sense.
Because the need for the existence of an enemy for these people( Iranian government) is more crucial than solutions for actual problems.
I just finished his book, "Why Orwell Matters" and found it a difficult read. This lecture was much clearer and easy to understand. I found his writing style pedantic and dependent upon copious literary allusions to contemporary political writers, familiar only to those who have a similar British intellectual upbringing.
I agree with his tenet of Orwell's continued importance today.
Damn I just ordered the book because of this lecture
1 thing I never forgot after reading it over 20 years ago about Orwell >>> Orwell once explained to his fellow Etonian Christopher Hollis why he read the Catholic press: “I like to see what they enemy is up to.” Typically, Orwell would find out that "the enemy" was up to no good.
Allusions you don’t get are what make life worth living. Discover!
Honesty your comment is pretty pedantic too 😂
He can be a hard read. It misses a few issues, like actually why does he matter…
The transcript is hilarious.
'Has the internet brought us closer to a totalitarian state?' - Can you imagine how different his response would have been if he were alive today?
George Orwell was MI5. ASF Gow, his Eton tutor, was his recruiter. Instead of going on to university at Oxbridge, Orwell instead joined the Indian Imperial Police (IIP) from 1922-27. The IIP was a training ground for MI5. Sir David Petrie served in the IIP(1900-36) and became head of MI5 in 1941. After training in the IIP, Orwell returned to UK after the General Strike in 1926 to infiltrate left wing groups such as the Independent Labour Party. Orwell served in the Spanish Civil War with the Trotskyist POUM then returned to work for BBC which was carefully vetted by MI5. In June 1940, FDR wanted an assessment of UK and its ability to withstand the coming Battle of Britain. FDR sent Gen. William Donovan, future head of OSS, on a secret mission. Donovan met King George VI, PM Winston Churchill and the military and intelligence heads....and George Orwell. In the published Orwell diary which covers this period, Orwell never mentioned meeting Donovan.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. So if you are going to make such claims, you really need to provide us with some pretty impressive evidence.
Wow, you either have an extraordinary imagination or you know something we don't. Do you have any sources we can refer to that back up your claims? Thanks ✌🏻
I wonder: did Hitch ever hold the Bush/Cheney administration to the same standard of culpability to which he holds Kissinger in this recording? I don't recall his ever having done so--quite the opposite, in fact.
Beware the virtuous they are the most dangerous because they are sure they are right.
Can somebody please help me spell the name of the Polish guy that read 1984 so I can look up his story
Czeslaw Milosz
George Orwell, is often quoted by some on the Right, whenever they want to do a bit of Socialist/Commie bashing, as if doing so validates their position. It doesn't.
Hitchens was/is correct in pointing out that he was anti-totalitarian, very much against Far Right Fascism and was a staunch Socialist.
Pretty much everyone on any political spectrum misuses and mis-quotes, not just the Right. Have you not noticed?
One can image Chris s take on Putin s Russia
I'm always to hear that Orwell was only 46 when he died...
He always looks so old and haggard. I guess that was his illness prematurely aging him😮
Miss Hitch!
34:00 Christopher's analysis of the digital age and censorship isn't completely wrong. he is right in the sense anyone who has internet access can watch rape on pornhub with the click of a few buttons and a few keywords in the search box. He is however wrong that it was not an open door for unlimited surveillance.
To be fair he didnt have a crystal ball. I think if he were alive today his analysis would be different ✌🏻
I might add Chris s take on Trump s MAGA cult or modern right wing extremism
Collateral damage. A term which aroused disgust in me to put it mildly as i watched gaza
No. Not collateral damage there. Human shields cruelly used by the savages who “govern” them.
Hitchens is why I am still pro-life even after dropping my atheism. This man was a gift to the world.
If you fight for your life as many , me too , in some way we see freedom as a real platform to feel inside the self me , feelings I am free. This leads to better self thoughts about myself which that ensures a self wants life to continue. Generally species here on earth 🌎.
I see neither religion or political rd give me any full number of answers.
So I see an issue and I point this out.
The time given is 11 years to redress unbalanced consumption to ensure life will exist .
That number leaves all no time to vote fair in any election .or remain a dictator.
So I said many things .
But I did say genoclide and war will hurry human extinction and many species.
I used Hitler Napoleon many Waterloo infantry and russian walks . Ships .
To the highest order to her husband . to bring messages- sometimes a chat on internet faces . Many messages, a deaf dumb sign .
often a holy image nuns sitting looking and established an answer .
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He died I nearly died perhaps he feel knocking me aside as he crumpled. She in so many ways edited.
to live is neither a queen or paupers right it is a nature.
The 🐜 any that sits now atop,
nods ,, carry on .
I can only say this war is to ensure another program software app that extinctions od species which humans farm die.
.happy is a life connect ,,, the answer is the answer nit can't stoping the tides but guiding nicer people al Brit gullible. But way to be .
Life can exit.
Australia? What is up with that comment?
39:32
Both men could see right through the chancers and race grifters masquerading as leaders and spokespersons in an era where Trump is a benchmark.HAHAHA How low can you go,fuckin lower than you Fuckers.
Herr Gutenberg was the worst thing to ever happen to religion! Totally unwittingly. 🤭
hosted Hitchens twice for talks & he was a mensch. sadly he eventually indulged the inane chortling manichean simplicity aroused in crowds like this one slobbering at his moral clichés. a warm blanket for the herd of dopes became too tempting to his narcissistic streak in the end. i miss him in that sense, as he was once a dragon-slayer.
Can you repeate the concept in simpler terms
New speak
Eloquently and clearly put. It must have been too tempting for him not to milk the cheap gags.
@@Longtack55 exactly so. he couldn’t see the irony of it, tragically.
I disagree .his talk on orwell was insightful and his observations relevent.
i feel eighthism is feeling like a religious furfur kind of it crossed my mind kind of ,no pun intended
Atheism?
fervour?
Infact, just rewrite the sentence so it makes sense, cheers ✌🏻
He attacked islam because he recognised it for what really is,an existential threat to humanity. It has shown in no clandestine manner the willingness of it's adherants to kill and be killed for an ideology steeped in violence and bathed in the blood of those unwilling to be converted.And now an islamic theocracy is using it's vast oil wealth not to further enrich it's people but to build nuclear weapons, Yeah right, please tell me where the Hitch was in error because I think I can spot a bit of virtue signalling in the comments below.
All religions are a dire threat to humanity and the world. Except for the funny hats, no difference exists between any of our man-made religions.
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Stop typing.
Hard to know what he would have thought about Trump.But we most cartainly do know what he thought of Hilary Clinton and her Husband and it was not good.No he had the measure of Hilary Rodham Clinton and nothing she has done since would improve his opinion of her one bit.He would have shown the leftist media how to use the pen to blunt few swords but sheer force of numbers kept George Floyd,s name on the front pages.And no body knew where they were when the entire world went into covid lockdown but Newspeak was in play when antifa could be called protesters and historical figures became unpersons.2020 as 1984.Novel about a nightmarish media controlled dystopia turned into a documentry and never ending public health announcement.Only this time the proles know the score.
@@RobertIsraelKabakoff A pretty fair appraisal Mr Kabbakoff and thank you for your reply.
If “antifa” had a leader it would be Hitchens. Take a lesson from him and Orwell and learn to see through the propaganda you’ve been fed.
I wish he could have had an opportunity to tackle Transactivism as an Orwellian distopian nightmare.
Why do you assume Hitch would have any issues with trans people?
I see nothing Orwellian about Transactivism but welcome your expansion.
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@42:00 " Leftist" and "Libertarian " are two DIFFERENT things!
i believe whatyou say .it appears to me obvious, which of the two i would follow i know not, they both have so many disguises.Take for example the hippies,of which i was one.We thought we were liberal then.Now i consider it sexist ,class conscious and all a bit siilly but fun.Leftist has many more disguises good and bad. anyway I will go now time to beat the butler[awful joke] or is it ?
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Shuh "pie" row?!? Really?? Give me a fucking break
Hes not jesus. Cant matter here.
Pity Hitchens seldom followed Orwell’s advice about omitting needless words.
In 1984 words were annihilated in order to limit thought. The words you call are unnecessary are easily understood if you listen.
So lucid but so blind as concerns Iraq, it is an almost pathological blindness.
have some more patience with him, took me a while but I realised he is right.
@@pezushka how so lol?
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He’s human and had mistaken opinions as all humans do
I'll continue to take his opinion on the matter, over your opinion of his opinion.
Surely you understand the meaninglessness of your comment, these 2 years on?
If we had Hitchens, Robin Williams, David Bowie and RBG still alive and healthy and ACTIVE I feel we might have stronger bulwark against the forces of fascism
This has become out of date very quickly. What Orwell would have written about today is The Great Reset and Uncontrolled Immigration
I was amazed to hear how abysmally ignorant Hitchens was about Catholics, the availability of Scripture, the new Printing Press and The Protestant "Reformation". I guess he must have learned that narrative on mummy's knee.
He declined communal prayers from an early age, and therefore I consider your final assertion a stretch. When and how did you "hear" of his Catholic ignorance and have you read "God is not Great"?
But though I love Hitch - his style and wit and courage; he was a deluded National Democrat Socialist was he not?
Why is that a delusion?
Even the Russians who were imperialist used the word socialist in their name. Even though they were not socialist in any sense.
Brilliant man. But holy fuck get to a punch line, Hitchens
He took any opportunity he could find to attack Islam . For that I stopped liking him . It was a shame he left the left and became a right wing conservative but never liked that label even though that is what he became
is there a redeeming value in the voluntary acceptance of Islam by an adult?
He had suggested that the next big fight that was coming in history was to be the ideas of the enlightenment against the ideas of theocracy and authoritarianism, as represented by (but not exclusive to) Islamic fundamentalism. In that light it's completely understandable why he'd take every opportunity to point out its fallacies.
Correct. He mentions throughout his writings-people should read him more and not just watch youtube videos imo- and in speeches. Even in his Daniel Pearl Memorial speech he talks about Putin and Russian nationalism tied to the Russian Orthodox church
being a threat to the Jews. This has proven true
Of course he took every opportunity possible to attack those who mutilate baby girls, put trash bags on their women and hate freedom of thought and expression. What kind of sane being stands by and watches bullies be cruel to others?
Stop being a coward and take every opportunity you get to attack organized religion too.
He was never right wing and never a conservative, he argued against Islam from a left perspective (speaking against sharia and advocating secularism) And only spoke about Islam in the same way as he would about Christianity, i.e with revulsion.
You do not need to be right wing and conservative to dislike islam, you're creating a false equivalence.