Isekai is GREAT, Actually
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Me Ranking EVERY Isekai in 2021: • I Watched EVERY Isekai...
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Would like to a make a correction: I don't think Iruma-kun or Acendence of a bookworm is shit (even though their posters were included when I talked about bad shows coming out.) they are great shows infact.
Unfortunately my editor is not an Isekai junkie like me so he unknowingly put in a bunch of shows, but it is my fault that I missed that during the editing pass through. Watch them, they are great!
You scared me for life with this shot
Lol
Ohhh
lmao u good
Iruma for justice 👍
It's concept of an Isekai has so much potential i'd love to see everyone deviate from the norm and really go crazy with it rather than stick to what's safe
Pat has become a justin y and I'm all for it
Wow Patterrz watches anime
What about an Isekai where instead of some dumb strange power that the protag gets He actually dies and gets reborn In yet another world could literally keep that going for like ever. and always bee fresh
Sticking to what’s safe is Japan’s specialty
Why are you here pat this is the last place id expect
to see you
"We Need An Isekai That Has An Ending"
Man I Felt That.
I mean Mushoku Tenseis web novel is complete. The LN in Japan is like a volume or 2 away from being finished as far as I know. The English translation is like 10 volumes behind now that 15 is out digitally. The nice part of Mushoku Tensei is that the LN and WN are pretty much the same but the LN expands on stuff more. So if you read all of the LN thats translated you can switch over to the web novel from where you left off and continue reading (albeit with a fan translation). Though the author has said before that Mushoku Tensei was a prequel setting up the story he really wanted to tell if you can believe that. As far as the web novel is concerned Rudys story is finished though and what a story it is.
Give me a light novel adaptation that has an ending...
@@valenten89 Iam Catching Up On Mushoku LN, It Only Gets Better From Where The Anime Ended! For Sure One Of The Best if Not The Best Isekai.
Frieren
Beyonders kinda counts as an isekai, even though it's a book.
"I've seen so many heroes journeying to take on the Demon Lord and not a single one ever reaches his doorstep" this made me laugh
Maoyu isn't an isekai, but the Hero is on the Demon King's doorstep less than five minutes into the show. underrated show, shame it didn't get a second season. Apparently the anime heavily improved on the source material.
@@dvillines26 I mean the show kinda is about the hero not killing the hot demon king waifu and rather the two travelling together to make peace.
And I've seen a hero who journey to take on a Demon Lord and defeated him but that's not the story was about and he wasn't the mc, it's the elf mage of his party and the story starts after the defeat of the Demon Lord
@@dvillines26 i was always under the impression that maoyu is an Isekai and the maou has memories from modern Japan.
@@yuri611 ya that was good
11:21 I'd watch an isekai about a demon lord waiting for adventurers to arrive at their doorstep.
(but they're all busy with side quests)
I recently watch 2 which include the Demon Lord as the MC. It's more towards slice of life than just fighting.
Anime:
1) Demon lord retry
2) How not to summon a demon lord
literally about setting up the traps and an empire but the heroes never show up until the last episode, and in true Isekai fashion, one episode is all they need to kill Big Evil Guy.
Sleepy princess in the demon castle has that to some degree
@@ajcarscenes In How not to summon a Demon Lord, the OP is not a real Demon Lord, they just assume he is, and he plays along with it.
@@rahul9704 anyone who watched the show would know that without you pointing it out tho. If not then I don't really have anything to say.
lmao. saying your favorite anime genre is hentai is more acceptable than admitting you watch isekai in anime circles
Agree
Lulz
For good reason
As it should be. GIGACHAD
but 9 out of 10 of them watched isekai
5:07 Ironically enough, "I Got Addicted to VTubers and Regret Everything" already sounds like the perfect light novel title that'd get an anime adaptation.
First of all your right seconds of all how are you always at the top
That is a good ass title if this guy who has presence on every youtube video approves it
I would absolutely see that anime, it sounds so relatable
Damn you beat me by an hour!
Just imagine seeing that title 💀
11:19 Cautious Hero actually did reach the Demon Lord and had nice ending.
also Konosuba.. in the light novel
In a single season, no less
@@macblink To anime only's like Gigguk any isekai that hasnt reached an ending in anime form may as well have not ended.
That’s what I’ve been sayingggg
the anime was merely a prologue. Cautious hero is currently trying to save the multi-verse from the aftermath of the war of the gods II, and trying to eke out a comeback from the Underworld.
"Isekai will never die, it'll just get reincarnated..." Got me lmao
Hm
Perfect
Gigguk, the madlad who's singlehandedly keeping the isekai genre alive. All those views, money and reviews? It's gigguk with his multiple accounts.
I can confirm
I am one of those accounts
lmao you are giving him too much credit
just when i had forgot about that rezero noise
Mysta!?!!?!!??
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Yooooo
Nagatoro is there for ya
The only problem with Mushoku Tensei, from what I understand, is the ending is more of a personal and isolated ending. The actual world still has a lot of story threads left open, so it's getting a sequel series.
It kind of reminds me of the current state of a Song of Ice and Fire. There are too many loose threads for it to be finished even remotely soon. However, it has done a good job setting up a potential for multiple series set in it's world. It's just doubtful that we'll ever see it all animated.
hell they just announced an Eris spin-off manga
The original story the writer wanted to tell was to focus on Redues decendants in combating the human god and how they defeated, reudues story was only inteded as a sort of prolouge like the first 3 arcs of re:zero as it laid the foundations that will lead to those future events, but people loved his development so much that the author decided to full flesh out his life and setting events that will be important for the future story. So yeah it is not a surprise there are a lot of threads that feel open as they are still needed to be explored. Hence he is writing the sequal series.
@@Bird-Birdy-Love I think he was gonna right something around laplace as well because for how influential of a character he is on the setting, he’s basically nonexistent in the story
@@k1tsune389 There's something called the Old Dragon's tale, which is Laplace's POV of the world 10000 years ago before the start of Mushoku tensei
@@Bird-Birdy-Loveum actually re zero prolouge is up until arc 4, before the time skip🤓🤓🤓
Jobless reincarnation, standing on a million lives,slime, re zero are some of the few isekais where they know the concept is overused but characters actually experience real growth in which, and challenges which make it enjoyable to watch
"We need an isekai that has an ending". This is how I feel about the anime industry as a whole, not just isekai.
^^^ This is what happens when the market gets so ludicrously oversaturated and no studio wants to greenlight anything for more than a 13 episode run anymore. The writers don't know how many episodes they're ultimately get to tell their story, so most shows end up with these lame non-endings now with no sense of story progression. Things start happening, then they stop happening. There's a reason I can count the number of shows I thought were genuinely great from the last decade of anime on one hand.
Code geass
Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day - single season - has an ending. Very emotional show.
Some writers weasel out of this and start the isekai at the end of the journey (after killing the demon lord) to excuse the open ended story after that or on the way to that ending.
There are now and then shows with a real ending, but I get what you want to say. Today, if you want to watch an anime with a proper ending, you probably have to watch a movie,
Iruma Kun is actually pretty great. So much wholesomeness
Ah yes, better my hero academia
@@Saltyoven Pretty true LUL
So is Bookworm. I have no idea with Garnt is smoking here, but I don't want any.
@@thewhyzer garnt is playing both sides with that one.
Btw my phone auto corrected his name to grant
@@Saltyoven which sides exactly is he playing? He said later that it "did something different" but that doesn't mean he reneged on his statement that it's shit.
As a huge Overlord fan, I definitely can understand the feeling that the anime may never get a conclusion. The fact that Madhouse of all studios did the impossible and are making a fourth season is insane enough, but the idea of the whole series getting adapted sounds like a distant dream.
Overlord is one of the few modern isekai that have the potential to be fully adapted. we are getting s4 and the movies as well that will further adapt the story, so it is possible that later down the road it will be fully adapted, if they have gone this far they might as well finish it now.
Well they may conclude it with season 5 and probably one movie since it should end by volume 18. S4 and movie should cover up to vol 14
My favorite isekai is "So I'm a Spider, So What" (especially the light novels). The one thing it does the best above most other isekai is have an explanation for almost everything that happens in the story. For example, the one thing that always bugs me is the main character's purpose for reincarnation. Often, it just happens for the sake of it, but in Spider, its a mystery that the story reveals the answer to over time. Another nice thing is the hard magic system. In Spider, you are introduced to almost every single magic spell and know exactly what each of them do. The combat with this system is written superbly and emphasizes strategy, and I find this so much more gratifying than some Deus Ex Machina ability or something that a lot more generic isekai resort to.
another isekai that has an explanation for everything that happens in the story is Re:Zero and it will no doubt blow minds when it reveals the answers to the mysteries of the series
@@MABfan11 have you heard of "the greatest demon lord who gets reborn as a typical nobody"
its an Anime About-
"the greatest demon lord who gets reborn as a typical nobody"
*with* the power of the greatest demon lord
i havent watched it.
re zero my favourite tho..
in the genre
Come on, its not like most of the time they reincanate for no reason. I mean we have Mushoku Tensai (He got drangen into another world because of an Accident/Experiment of a "God" of this world), Shield Hero (Summond), How not to summon a Demon Lord (Summon), Black Summoner (Summoned because of an Accident of an God), Arifureta (Summoned and not only the main character or just a small group. No a whole class including the teacher), I got a cheat skill (He can enter through a door as he pleases, and his grandpa could it also if i understood that right), The world finest Assasin (Got summoned by the god of this world alongside others), Tsukimichi (Got litterly Tossed out in another world by a god) and the list will continue. I mean how many different reason how u could come.over to another world u can think of, beside random Teleport, Teleport through Summoning or rebirth? How would.u send someone over?
I watched it and its mostly trasg, but i like some parts and tge concept
We better get to see an ending to re zero, I'm way too invested in the story and characters now!
The author already said that Re Zero will only have 11 arcs. We are currently halfway through Arc 7. So a few more years before Re Zero finally has an ending.
WN will end in 10 years
The alter/side story things did end so it'll be weird if the main one didn't.
It kind of felt like, even rezero will end one day. Its best of the novels i read till date including mushoku tensei , suka suka & 86.
@@jaskaransingh3200 well it is half way done
Isekai is love. Isekai is life.
You people watching anime Failed Life and disgust me. You must play fun, quality games like FIFA instead ❤️💙⚽️
Isekai is ok
And it's your entire channel and I love it xD
Love how your channel just double or triple my enjoyment of them
@@BarcelonaRussia WE WATCH TRASH AND WE ARE TRASH now shut tf up
Kumo Desu recently ended and it… sure was an ending. Sure did end, huh.
I feel the reason isekai feels neverending (the good ones at least) is because the genre just really doesn’t lend itself to short (or at least not-so-long) formats. Through isekai we get a glimpse into interesting worlds, and stopping the scope at just what the protag-kun sees and does tends to be an indicator of a bad story; the genre translates to “another world”, not “another city”.
If you are talking for the web novel, that has ended, but the light novel is still getting written.
Tensura is definitely my favorite series up to present. The anime is well adapted and the magic animation (especially season 2 part 2) is sexy. The LN has some of the best world building I’ve come across and provides good detail without drowning you in it. But there is just something about Rimuru, Ciel/Great Sage/Raphael (depending on where you’re at in the series), and Veldora that I absolutely love. Those three are just special to me and it makes me love the series all the more.
Thanks for the great content again my guy 💙
Not just these people. If you have read LN then you'll even know Diablo is such an op character and there are other characters such as zegion, demoness trio and Masayuki who are really good in their own way.
Uses No Game No Life music so we can feel the dread of never getting a season 2.
RIP feelsbadman
Don't give up hopeeee!!
THIS IS A JOKE
Ngnl RIP bozo L+Ratio anime fell off
It gives me so much faith in humanity that there won’t be a NGNL season 2
food wars chef man
As a reader of both Rezero's Web novel & Mushoku Tensei Light Novel, I can 100% guarantee that both of these shows will blow up the standard of good isekai show. Depending how each show got adapted, Rezero's webnovel isn't even finished yet, still on Arc 7, in which season 2 is in Arc 4, the upcoming season for Rezero will be one of the most important part of the show. Mushoku Tensei will also have its best moment in the next few season if they follow the source as accurately as possible. I can't wait for both of these show to get adapted and animated.
Edit : I've heard that the people in chaosflame are strong, but are they stronger than the people from my shinobi village?
Mushoku Tensei has like 5 or 6 great moments coming up to be honest. Every arc is great, even curing ED!
but are they stronger than the people from my shinobi village?
Where'd you read them?
Bruh the next few mushoku tensei seasons going to be going crazy. Ive only read until the 15th Light Novel volume since it has only been translated that far in ENG (rly wish they can translate the whole 26 or so volumes in the Light Novel) but bro soo much happened.
@@aaaamxr where you buy that? Is it not the slighty changed one? I want to buy on Amazon but some review said it the translation change some minor thing.
Has anyone ever made a show that's like "someone was isekai'd and now they're back and have to live in their original world again?" I feel like there's a ton of unexplored possibilities there.
Read the warrior returns. It's a manhua. Basically the MC is transported to another world, defeats the demon lord, goes back to his world where he is bullied, his family is dead and no one wants him. So he goes mad and decides to destroy all of Korea.
yeah I've been working on a story where someone's isekai'd, goes back home for a few years with serious trauma and grief no one around her can understand, and consequently gets lured back into the other world in part out of a dim hope that the people she lost aren't really dead, but also a feeling like she doesn't know how to live a normal life anymore. And on her return, a friend goes with them who is deeply unenthusiastic about the idea of going to another world, and she thinks it would be better for her to move on.
Because the fact is, in a real situation like this, most people would probably get some kind of trauma from the violence, and moreso if one or more of their close companions die. Plus, going back to the mundane world from a magical world, without the power that made you feel safe and strong, feeling vulnerable and powerless again, that would really do a number on someone.
The understanding of fantastical violence as traumatic is one of the things I really appreciate about Re:Zero. Subaru is a normal person, and normal people are not mentally equipped to handle the sort of shit he goes through without serious psychological damage. I guess I want to see more stories about people who aren't psychologically equipped for being in another world, people way out of their depth having to earn every little bit of progress they get.
@@dvillines26 Isekai PTSD
Isekai ojisan
Not a show, but the ending to Secret of Evermore does have the characters who were stuck in Evermore for 3 decades ask this question. They wind up turning their whole experience into a script for a film.
Agreed, mushoku tensei actually had me eager to read ahead cause i know there's an end point where as the others feel like they're stuck in limbo, even shield hero which is progressing nicely in the light novels has that same feeling to it although i feel like there is an end coming
I know Iruma is technically an Isekai, but it is seriously good and it sure as hell doesn't feel like one!
Right? Iruma is great, it shouldn't be there
yeah just like bookworm
Iruma restores my faith in humanity
It feels like one only in the broad strokes of person in another world they don't understand.
Iruma's whole deal though is that he isn't particularly overpowered or even special beyond his unique upbringing. Everything he gets, he earns mostly by merit or by being a human and humans being built different to demons in the world he now inhabits.
Even the strong magical powers he gets from his grandfather, ends up feeling earned because those are something he personally has to come to understand even to use and despite his best attempts he's only okay at best. His greatest power is just being kind and decent.
It helps it feels more like the “human kid in monster high school” and leads more into that side of it’s premise than the isekai side. That said I also feel like it’s worth pointing out it’s a manga original. As gigguk said, most light novels are sourced from an amateur web novel site and you can frankly see that reflected in the quality as the standards tend to be lower than getting published and surviving in a manga magazine
Funnily enough, out of all the anime that Joey (The Anime Man) doesn't watch he will give Isekai a chance. This is just Garnts way to get him back into anime again.
Please fix your grammar. Can't understand you...
Talk about mushoku season 1 part 2
if Sao is an isekai, I gotta bring out that the first isekai was dot hack
@@raddishgames526 Unfortunately, the first isekai is probably A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. Though you could argue some even older myths qualify, what with the whole visit to the underworld thing. Though that was technically an actual, physical part of the real world in most mythologies, so maybe The Divine Comedy (also the first self-insert fanfiction, as far as I'm aware).
Though, if you mean anime, the oldest I know of is Paul in Fantasy Island (yes, that's the English title. No, I don't know why).
@МrBеаst Ехtrа inhale dong enragement child
Cautious hero had an AMAZING ending. That’s all I can think of
I can't wait for the villainess genre and more female leads!! I personally love more strategy social fighting than physical fighting stories and I'm obsessed with these villainesses uniquely solve and grow their reputation
so true!
Reborn to Master the Blade. Just watch it
To be fair, writers do finish their isekais in WN quite often (Mushoku, Slime, Spider etc). Its the Anime/Manga adaptations that never gets to see the ending of it.
Yeah the real issue with the genre is 90% of the shows are just act one and, no, we ain't reading a machine-translated japanese web novel to find out how it ends
Edit: also counterexample for @gigguk if he's reading this: "Overly cautious hero" ended and ended really well. Granted, the light novels keep going on, but the anime ends in a satisfying way, with the "ongoing adventures" hook used mostly to punctuate the concluded character arc
If you like to know thats the businessmodel nowdays. Start 10 shows you can buy the rights for cheap. And unless one make insane profit leave it all in the dirt.
Its the low risk middle income strat. Its not worth it anymore to invest in a potentialy good story and put effort into it, all that counts is cheap and fast.
Thats also why dc and marvel just repeat old storys instead of creating something new.
Avoid isekaisnthey are so deep in this web you won't find a good one. Exeptions excludet log horizont and konosuba.
One is a parodie, and the other is exeptional slow. Nether gets finished ofc.
@@CrispBaker you can’t call it an ending just because your boring and like shows ending after 12 episodes, why would you ever want an open ending people like you don’t make sense to me
and the light novel adaptions. that time i got slime is at volume 13 of 19 released and 22 in total with the official translation. and vol 19 wont be officialy translated till 2023
Konosuba is one of the few mainstream isekai’s where the source material has come to a conclusion. And yet despite how popular it is, they still haven’t been focused on rolling out more seasons. It’s not just an issue with series not having an ending, it’s an issue with only a select few series being considered safe to continuously pump out season after season.
Existing seasons aren't that great either in how they are animated. Characters look like garbage compared to LN illustrations for example.
And in second season the animation quality went further down, second season characters have potato faces.
Seems like the majority of the budget and time went into Megumin's explosions.
Author of the Series ended up not liking the anime last I checked. Which is why it took so long for us to even get something in production after the Movie.
Just hoping its a Reboot rather then a Season 3 though. Want it to be in the author's image instead.
Spoilers btw :- But the thing is, it doesnt really feel like it has ended properly. Theres the more stronger demon lord's daughter, kazumin and the princess etc. It needs a proper ending to tie it all up well
@@sharmilathube923 Thus begins satou kazumas counterattack
Thank god konosuba is getting another season
Ascendance of a Bookworm is S-tier. A genuinely good show
I was just watching Escaflowne and realized why modern Isekai is so different from early Isekai.
The peak of human civilization was 20 years ago, society today is bad enough to want to escape from this world.
It's amazing how quickly times change.
The "Never gets finished" part of the video hit me like an isekai truck. Man I want Log Horizon to get the ending it deserves.
Problem with that is the Author still hasn't finished the 14th book after years. 15 is supposed to be the final.
@@Abattoir23 AND he started writing again cuz he had to pay bills, not cuz he wanted it.
I don't think it will get better.
But i just want the ending just for my curiosity.
the only isekai i see finishing is mushoku tensei because they literally made a studio for mushoku, and the boss of the studio is a huge fan of mushoku
@@MyaMore-cb7zb
That's great to hear! I'd stopped checking after so long.
I’m standing on a million lives isn’t even bad, the show honesty takes a re:zero like approach with character psychology and has an underlying plot that basically forces me to watch to understand it.
I think it's one of those shows that could('ve) be(en) really good, but it didn't quite cut it.
The concept is good, the direction is good, but the execution is just not good enough.
@@waszner Yeah I agree
Yah I love that show, it's definitely better than that assassin isekai anime
@@space1734 fr
It was good in terms of emphasing the value of the mc's consequences, especially in most isekais where ppl die and the mcs give no fucks
to sum up:
isekai is a tool to create interesting situations. if it's constrained by being a genre, then it gets uninteresting.
also, these situations usually have an end goal, but it's never reached.
i've consumed so much isekai that i've become numb to so many tropes. when i see our MC get decimated by the female lead for an "accident" that wasnt his fault the reaction that comes out of me is "bruh" or "god dammnit". so when i watch an isekai with actual depth in the world and characters (overlord, slime, re zero, shield hero, etc) i get excited to watch another episode rather than "yup another 30 minutes to fill, wonder what trope they'll hit next"
I'd love to see an isekai, where the Demon Lord is already defeated, but the rest of the world still has issues both economically and mentally.
…..You lost me at Shield Hero
@@sunlitsonata6853 No? Shield hero is good. The anime adaptation might have rushed the second half, but the first several episodes were adapted pretty faithfully, and the source material ain't nothing to sneeze at earlier.
Overall, still a very solid show.
@@edcaous
Isn’t still an anime where an incel MC we learn nothing about their actual real life gets inexplicably brought to an indistinct fantasy world, where it has game stats for arbitrary reasons, he’s doubted by society but is actually OP strong, he gets surrounded by a posse of underage (or older by technicality) women and every major male character is an asshole out to get him? That seems like it plays into all the things about Isekai people have grown tired of, but people ate it up.
@@notationmusical Mao yu mao yusha is basically that. It only has one season though so you'd have to read the manga.
"Isekais are great actually!"
"Okay grandpa let's get you to bed"
You people watching anime Failed Life and disgust me. You must play fun, quality games like FIFA instead ❤️💙⚽️
@UCUjVam0lVJnijWiwAgNwN-Q almost as many bots as a moist critical vid, lol
@@sbfh014 lmaoo
@@BarcelonaRussia PREACH KING
No, he is saying the truth
Drifters is crazy slept on
"Isekai will never die" XD saw that Truck coming from a mile away, still got hit!
The one thing I've noticed about some isekai is that they never needed to be isekai, they could have been more traditional fantasy and worked just as well if not better.
I've read stories and if you skipped the start there is no way you would know it was an isekai
@@thomasedwards6641 And others where you can only tell due to pop culture references that you don't understand if you're not Japanese.
100% this. Stories need to choose a lane and stay in it imo.
Either pick a pure fantasy and tell the story you wanted to tell in that.
Or pick a hybrid isekai which has a story to tell, but never forgets the fact that the protagonist/s are of another world and this is a thing that constantly shapes how the story unfolds.
If you ask yourself: "Can I write this exact same plot but without the isekai element?" then your answer should be based on that.
Yes the few that has isekai because it need the protagonist to be relatable are the better ones
I feel like Isekai isn't a Genre, it's a Trope, to get the narrative rolling and help with world building / setting up some stakes
Out of everyone in Trash Taste, I like Gigguk the most because he actually talks about anime.
Oof.
But he also has the trashiest anime taste.
@@TheGoukaruma Thats the best part
@@TheGoukaruma Isn’t that the best part?
@@TheGoukaruma You misspelled *best
What you were saying about Isekais being disposable and us forgetting about them and moving on, that holds true - in my experience - with Konasuba and Mondaiji. I remember the characters but I don't remember the plots or what happened during their adventures. They become lost in the shuffle until a more memorable show comes around and that's why i watch fewer isekais and just focus on shows that are more unique in nature
Would love to see you talk about/watch Sabikui Bisco. I haven’t had this much pure enjoyment from watching an anime in a WHILE!
I've been an isekai degenerate for 9 years and I can confidently say, Mushoku Tensei is my #1. Odd how the novel came out in 2012 but somehow it didn't get an anime adaptation till 2021 but regardless, it was a joy to watch and I'm glad it was picked up by a great studio.
They did consider to push out an anime adaptation earlier, but after the guys at white fox looked at it, they decided it was so good that they needed to make a new studio specifically for it, and that’s how studio bind was formed
I actually think that odd decision might have been the best decision.
The clearly did their homework. They had a light novel and a rework of it into Manga.
The lightnovel has an ending, there is enough fan arts and official arts , enough time to plan out and even make a fking studio. And the manga Just gave a basic idea of how you can frame and how you shouldn't frame some of these scenes....
Mushoku Tensei, unlike many others, has done majority of the work before actually even announcing it, the majority work being actual planning and designing which a lot of Isekai studios just skip over
when I read the first paragraph, I thought your making a LN title parody
@@Oman_Au If only more worthy stories that deserves a good adaptation gets that much love.
@@Oman_Au it kinda reminded me of how it took a long time before someone like Peter Jackson felt he had a good enough idea on how to execute the Lord of the Rings movies. Often times the wait is well worth it
I’ve never noticed how a lot of them don’t actually end. That honestly makes all the “isekai is all the same” talking points have a lot more weight to it. It’s not just that they tend to be all the same, they rarely are. It’s just that it feels like we’re watching the same show because we only get to see the start of the story, every season, for every new show. The exceptions are the most popular shows, but that leaves THE REST to just be the same story of “guy/gal gets reincarnated and they end up on a fantasy land” and that’s where it ends. The fact most of them don’t actually finish the journey really does make it seem like they’re all the same: because most of them are just the start of the journey and ONLY the start. This reminds me a lot of why I stopped reading superhero comic books for a few years; they rely WAY too much on constantly rebooting or renumbering stuff, but it was all the same. Always a new start, but never an actual satisfying ending. Just restart over and over again. I hope this trend ends. I’d like to see more shows that actually end.
Well, they're made for selling the novels where the story do continue...
But yeah, some good stories were trashed just because it took time for it to start moving apart from the common origin (for the sake of its character development)
I mean, I think this is a result of what's isekai inspired from - MMORPGs , and just like isekai's, the vast majority of them come & go, and heck, that's actually an optimal way to play since the pattern is always good start, and then it goes downhill, becomes p2w so time to move on to the next.
Now, that's a very BIG issue rooted in the very nature of MMOs BUT it needn't be one in isekai anime since it can just craft the ending of the hero's journey as you would to a fantasy so hopefully it can try to break those chains.
Perhaps the extreme focus on the journey of isekai, which is similar to MMOs at the end of the day which u play for the journey, and not much on the destination is also a reason to this issue. Like, a shounen, a romance, a seinen, etc. while it goes w/o saying that the journey is important, they always have a destination building up towards as well. You know Eren wants to kill all titans, you know Lelouch plans to confront his father even, you know Yagamai Light wants to rule the world as Kira, you know Naruto wants to become Hokage, you know a couple has to get together or if they're already in a relationship, you hope to see them married or happy together or maybe decide to separate even if it ends up being better , you know Mikey wants to bring back oldschool honorable deliquents in Tokyo Revengers, you know Josuke and crew have to find & face Dio, etc. Now, obviously the end goals may be prone to be changed, or somewhat altered depending on new realizations our protags come to, but it doesn't change the fact that there's always a very important end goal in mind, not just the journey.
@@MgMast3r I once read that isekai, as a genre, was born a way of escaping reality by exploiting the fundamental feeling of trying to percieve ourserlves as the protagonist. That way, as you cleverly said, the journey is everything as you most likely won't have any clue on what the destiny should be.
The most common solution I can find already in isekai is the lazy writing of defeating a demon lord as the ultimate destiny. The problem with that is the fact that it being so overused brings rejection from spectators. Even if the journeys are different, many of them have not even began by the end of the show's only cour, ending in the misunderstanding of the genre.
I think the problem is that a lot of them DO end, the anime adaptions just don't. Generally light novel series either take 15-20 books or take less than 3. Lots of big isekai are in that 10-15 book range, so a lot of them havn't ended. Konosuba for example finished like a year or two ago.
SO WHERE'S KONOSUBA SEASON 3???!!
Isekai is basically just fantasy + mc from another world. It has endless potential of unique plot and setting, like says One Piece, Naruto and Toriko are all fantasy setting and they are all very different from each other, and yet isekai chooses to be the same RPG-mechanic world, same medieval age with adventurer guild, same Tolkien-esque monster race every times.
Even the MCs can be different, and I don't mean just changing gender or turning them edgy. Say, why not take the Mondaiji route and take people already with powers to be summoned, instead of wasting time granting power to powerless ones? What if the og setting were an urban fantasy where MC has power/is not human but has to hide it to blend in with the crowd, how would they react to the new world where people flinging fireballs like it's just tuesday? Would their power work properly, or even stronger somehow? (Wrong context magic is a very funny trope imho)
A series I really want to see animated is hero has returned, basically a reverse IseKai were the main characters were IseKaid and when they came back they realized they had nothing left and proceeded to eventually go insane and basically destroying the world and the first protag got IseKaid after the main villain/protag killed him.
Gigguk, I have to disagree with you regarding the "start" of Isekai was SAO, not only as a genre but popularity. The concept of Isekai has origins in ancient Japanese literature, particularly the story of a fisherman Urashima Tarō, who saves a turtle and is brought to a wondrous undersea kingdom. After spending what he believed to be four to five days there, Urashima returns to his home village only to find himself 300 years in the future. The folk tale was adapted into one of the earliest anime films, Seitaro Kitayama's Urashima Tarō, in 1918. Other precursors to isekai include portal fantasy stories from English literature, notably the novels Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865), The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (1900), Peter Pan (1904) and The Chronicles of Narnia (1950).
The earliest modern Japanese isekai stories include Haruka Takachiho's novel Warrior from Another World (1976) and Yoshiyuki Tomino's anime Aura Battler Dunbine (1983). Other early anime and manga titles that could be classified as isekai include Mashin Hero Wataru (1988 debut), NG Knight Ramune & 40 (1990 debut), Fushigi Yûgi (1992 debut), El-Hazard (1995 debut), and The Vision of Escaflowne (1996 debut), in which the protagonists stayed similar to their original appearance upon entering a different world. Other 1990s titles identified as isekai include the novel and anime series The Twelve Kingdoms (1992 debut), the manga/anime/game franchise Magic Knight Rayearth (1993 debut), the visual novel adventure game YU-NO: A Girl Who Chants Love at the Bound of this World (1996), the manga and anime series InuYasha (1996 debut), and the anime series Now and Then, Here and There and Digimon Adventure (both 1999 debut). Spirited Away (2001) was one of the first isekai anime films known worldwide, although the term "isekai" was not commonly used at the time.
The role-playing adventure game Moon: Remix RPG Adventure (1997), and the Digimon Adventure (1999 debut) and .hack (2002 debut) franchises, were some of the first works to present the concept of isekai as a virtual world, with Sword Art Online (2002 web novel debut) following in their footsteps. Another isekai anime series from the 2000s is Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi (2002).
Gigguk, I know you're pretty young, but if you were a bit older, you would know that my Queen of Tsundere had done Isekai anime long before SAO anime.
A popular isekai light novel and anime series in the 2000s was The Familiar of Zero (2004 debut), where the male lead Saito is from modern Japan and is summoned to a fantasy world by the female lead Louise. The Familiar of Zero popularized the isekai genre in web novel and light novel media, along with the website Shōsetsuka ni Narō ("Let's Become Novelists"), known as Narō for short. The Familiar of Zero fan fiction became popular on Narō during the late 2000s, eventually spawning a genre of isekai novels on the site, which became known as Narō novels. The Familiar of Zero fan fiction writers eventually began writing original isekai novels, such as Tappei Nagatsuki who went on to create Re:Zero (2012 debut).
Now, back to my Queen - Animes that she was in besides The Familiar of Zero (2006-12), there was Inuyasha (2000), G-on Riders (2002) & Guardian Hearts (2004-05) & Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-Chan series (2005-07) [okay, so those three are more reverse-Isekai], Märchen Awakens Romance ("MÄR", 2005), Shakugan no Shana series (both Isekai & reverse-Isekai, 2005-11), Bokurano (2007), and Astarotte no Omocha series (2011) - all BEFORE SAO came out. Of course, there was also Nyaruko: Crawling with Love series (2012-15, primarily reverse-Isekai, but has parts of Isekai, too). And this is just focusing on my Queen (the Seiyū I love). [Okay, so I have Kugimiya Syndrome, multiple type, mainly L, S, N, T]
You can also go to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_isekai_works to see more from others.
Gigguk wouldn't acknowledge Dunbine sadly because it's mecha.
Did anyone actually read this?
@@hamza.991 "read this"?? You mean everything I wrote? (maybe, as I got 3 up votes) Or something else? Maybe, probably not Giguk, because he hasn't replied!
Yeh idk if you trail off and start talking about something, but sao "started" the isekai genre only in the sense that it popularized the concept. Just like the halo reference, there were plenty of games that would be considered shooters, but the genre didn't become what it is today until halo and cod.
Yes, yes it is.
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I think the only example i remember "ending" was Cautious Hero, but it felt as though from the beginning it was meant to end. It was a story that was probably already planned out to end and I'm glad it did, because that was one hell of a ride
I think he means in terms of anime, not source, since if that's the case, Slime, Mushoku Tensei and many others have already concluded!
It didn't enddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd fucking cliff hangers man
it ended?
It didn’t end but if it did it’s a pretty good ending because it felt complete
I mean, SAO technically did "end". From season 2 onwards, it just feels like side stories.
My god, ur right...I've never seen an Isekai that I loved actually end! Most of the time, I am forced to read the novels or manga just to get any sort of closure. Tbh, it's that way FAR too often for a lot of anime and it's really disheartening when there are so many stories I love but we just don't get an end!
I hope I will live to see the day when a modern Isekai get's a full adaptation and an actual ending.
Gigguk: "It's impossible to recognize each of these shows at just a glance."
Me: "Are you sure about that?"
Well for us it's not impossible but it is for new comers
@@itsmilan4069 true
Same
Question:
9:37 whats the show second from bottom left
with the guy with a slime on his shoulder?
@@colegmr My Isekai Life: I Gained a Second Character Class and Became the Strongest Sage in the World!
The concept of Isekai is wonderful, contrasting a character's real life experience and personality with the ideology of an unfamiliar world, but to me, it's annoying when it feels like there's only one specific template a lot of them follow with half-hearted settings, ignorance of the real world, and the variation mostly being a gimmick.
While they aren't anime, Amphibia and The Owl House are really great shows and worth seeing if you like the idea and potential of ending up in another world, but dislike what most anime have done with it.
@The Otaku Dragon Slayer
It wasn't cancelled; it was *cut short*. The last season will just be cut down by 13-ish episodes, but they got the notice enough in advance to create the rest of the episodes in Season 2 and 3 around that limitation to give it a proper ending.
So, the show will still get an ending, just with less time to do it than the creator would've hoped.
It's actually like what happened to The Vision of Escaflowne way back, where it was supposed to be 39 episodes but got cut down to 26, yet it still had an ending.
I think the main issue with Isekai is execution. We often times know little about the characters life before coming to a new world and usually that's because the characters are self insert otakus without a life. I think I'd like Isekai more if it just felt more like a real character in a world rather than some self insert shell. That's the main reason why I love re zero so much but I haven't been bothered to watch many other Isekai.
The problem is how many could just be fantasies. But a good show is a good show
@@user-zy7jx2rn1j Subaru is still a self insert but he at least tries to become a better person
@@user-zy7jx2rn1j The protag in an Isekai is supposed to be a self insert for the viewer, like that is the whole point of the genre to provide the spectator a character that they can merge in to to explore a new world, there is no point if the protag is too flamboyant or has real character as the MC of a isekai is supposed to be bland and contrast with the more colorful characters in the other world
Im so glad I finally found someone with the same opinion as me, you get my sub.
still can't believe 2012 is 10 years ago
Completely agree with the part that Isekais should focus more on having an ending ... that is what I love about Mushoko Tensei and similar animes ... they portray the story of the life of the main character from the beginning to the end, Episode 1 starts with the birth, the last Episode ends with the death. It feels like a journey with all the ups and downs that come with such a journey and you really get invested in them. People see the first Episode of Mushoko Tensei and only see him being an asshole and I agree, but I also see how he changes over all the years and becomes one of my favorite characters at some point. No matter what character you take from Mushoko Tensei, there are no black and white characters and they are deeper than they seem at first glance (hint: some characters may seem fairly bland in the anime so far, but you'll see all of them again at some point, it's a long story). Anime producer should focus more on the journey and make me care about the characters instead of harem shit where the only quality of most of the characters is to have tits and cheer for the MC.
Lolol, why Isekai in particular? Isekai is a subgenre, meanwhile the whole MEDIUM suffers from this problem all over (anime pretty much currently largely being recognized by the industry as 'advertisement for the manga')
@@mkzhero true
honestly, at first I liked it. I've not watch the anime but I'm caught up with the english scanlated manga. I have to say, after thinking about it as a whole, I started to not like it as much as I did before. I think that back then I turned a blind eye towards rudeus' problematic behaviors and his father's bullshitery, and just enjoy the story and the world they live in. One thing I came to realise is that, what the father did to the mother and what rudeus did to the girls when he was younger, really put me off. Not because of the action being committed but because there weren't any negative consequences or repercussion of their actions. Even the girls were in on rudeus being a pervert. It just doesn't feel right to me. Also, the story sorta dwells a little to long on certain interaction/event, eg. multiple chapters just sylphy mentally battling with herself on whether to tell rudeus she is sylphy and rudeus being so dense that the time he realised it was her was when she was stripped down to her undies. I can see where the author was going with this but it just felt like it was dragged on longer than it's supposed to. Sylphy's character development being the main focus is fine but I would've liked to at least have some minor story progression and/or other minor character development instead of entirely focusing on sylphy's predicament. There was nothing for me to look forward to because the story is stagnant and anyone would have been able to predict what's gonna happen to sylphy and rudeus a few chapters ahead but having to sit through multiple chapters and copious amount of dialogue regarding that matter and nothing else just made it hard for me to concentrate and be invested in it. The story leading up to when they joined the academy was interesting and fun to read, the enjoyment just sorta disappear after that.
@@notSchnee you are close to turning point 3 just keep on reading after turning point 3 everything is fire i assure you
Mushoku tensei does have one of the greatest harems of all time where every girl wins and have thier own shrines made by our MC.
Godess of love,war and panties 😂😂
If anyone happens to see this, "The hero is overpowered, but overly cautious" does have what I would consider to be a genuine ending. It's not an entirely traditional Isekai, but is quite good in my opinion.
I would love to see the sequel tho, in the S difficulty world
@@panzlithium That would have the potential to be interesting, but knowing my luck it would be so bad it actually makes the first season worse.
I heard that they basically adapted the ebst part of the novel already, so a second season could be less enjoyable.
Honestly that basically most isekai, start good and then lower in quality, that why I like to said the best part of a isekai is the beginnings.
@@Bakatora04 I can't even imagine where the story would go from here. We've already had the big plot twist. Pushing it any further would become ridiculous.
@@Bakatora04 reminds me of yamada and the seven witches. sure the manga continued but, the anime already covered the best part and its a perfect moment to end.
or usagi drop where everyone collectively agrees they prefer to think it was an anime original.
catious hero's story continues, but already had a very solid ending that is left open ended enough for people if they want to continue the story reading, but if they don't. it is satisfactory enough
although funny enough cautious hero ironically feels like a different type of isekai because it doesn't feel like seiya is a "person from japan who got summoned / reincarnated into an isekai". he is more like "person from a fantasy world, who got reincarnated / summoned into a different fantasy world".
Is like, say, someone from the arthurian myths (myths already set in the middle ages), like king arthur got isekai'ed into well, an isekai
"Her Summon" is the best isekai i've seen, and it is an isekai that's finished
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I think ultimately I just want more isekai writers to actually ask themselves "does anything about this story actually change by being an isekai" because so many of them suddenly lose their "isekai" identity so damn quickly once it's been established that the character is used to the world they're in (often done in the first 2 episodes). There's so many shows I wish I could just enjoy as simply fantasy because it turns out their "isekai" element has no ultimate change on the outcome at all.
Or even better, if more of the better isekais got animated instead of the massive fodder of bad ones
I think that the Isekai element works heavily when the story explores a real world issue because we can have a character from our world who has suffered and feels liberated in this new world but struggles with their issues, that is honestly big part of why I like Mushoku Tensei just the way they explore depression in that series it strikes close to home.
Thats 1 of my 2 part litmus test for isekais.
Part 1) if the character dies and is transported to another world there are no stakes and therefore the whole thing is ruined. Its already bad from the jump and therefore should not exist as a concept.
Part 2) If the story could be adequately told without this being an isekai why is it an isekai and not just a straight up fantasy. What utility is gained by being transported from another world?
There are examples that contradict one or both of those tenents but i'm willing to say that 95% of all isekai's i've watched can be adequately judged using those two things alone.
I remember reading one where in the FIRST CHAPTER, after being reincarnated the MC forgets about their previous life.
Like... what even was the point of calling it an isekai, then?
Agreed, it'd help these stories a lot if more authors bothered using the isekai genre as anything more than an initial hook, or as a cheap justification for the protagonist's behavior and/or "superiority" over the typically medieval world. It's way more interesting when an isekai actually addresses the flaws the protagonist would still have, any attachments to their previous life/world, or uses the whole framework in the overarching plot line. Otherwise, yeah a lot of shows should just be a "normal" fantasy.
I completely agree about the “finally seeing an ending” is a really big thing that adds so much.
Like it just adds so much to know these stories end or have a target. Even if ending sucks u canbe like hey it was great and then dipped. But you have a nag in ur head where u can rave about a show and then 4 years later “oh a new studio did X and oh wow it’s terrible. Sorry u finally listened to me just noe for X reason. I guess i have to take back my recommendation and hope u still trust my judgement.”
Like, One Piece?
well mushoku has an ending so look forward to that if we ever get it fully animated (and with a studio being made specifically just for mushoku I think it might be possible)
wasn't sword art online already ended tho? at least we have one who actually have ending.
The issue with most modern isekai having an ending is that its based off of web novels. Many web novels put out chapters multiple times a week and are an income source for the author, so there tends to be thousands of chapters to many of them! We're talking about challenging One Piece for how long many of these things are!
Not gonna see the end of a lot of them any time soon.
@@yourjofiwsp it really should have ended midway through the first season, wwhen they liberate everyone. in my head that is where it actuallt stops. all the movies and stuff after should just be spinoffs
I loved hearing the Sunleth BGM when you started talking about the big issue with Isekai. Felt wonderfully appropriate.
Overly cautious hero felt pretty conclusive
When i was a kid, for school we had to read A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain. I knew then that there was something to this "man out of time" idea. Cut forward to 32 year old me guzzling down every bit of isekai, trash and treasure alike. The clashing of worlds, lands, and eras has always made a compelling premise to me. Isekai is the seed every story has planted in all our minds brought to full bloom. The simple question, "what if i was there." Stories, real or fiction, history or fantasy all give us a glimpse into the lives of others. Isekai is a door instead of a window. "what would I do?" "what could I change?" "how would this change me?"
I love that story. Twain was ahead of his time.
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Many Isekai are good, Many are bad.
Whats even the Question here?
Crin-ey fanservice, this curse of manga/anime, aside:
Isekai Word Magic Cheat, Isekai-Uncle, and so many others are really good.
Restaurant To Another World was my Covid comfort show. So fucking comfy, but make sure you're eating dinner while you watch it.
The commercial so needs to be like edited and looped for like 10 minutes because I could listen to that commercial over and over again you are a master
Never thought about it that way before, but I couldn't agree more with the fact that Isekai shows need to start having proper endings. I find myself watching less and less anime, because everytime I start an isekai, it ends up feeling like I'm adding a new show to my list of series which I'll never see the end of. I've lost interest, because the payoff never comes. It often feels like the real progression stops mid-series, never to resume. As much as I love watching good anime, I also enjoy watching good anime wrap-ups, good endings. It gives the shows a sense of purpose, instead of just telling a meaningless story.
Only Isekai anime I know that had ending is Dog Days. Not anime for everyone. Since it doesn’t have big serious plot. But really entertaining and could remind you of a fairy tale.
The problem with most isekai (and manga in general) is that they are glorified ads for the light novel. The light novels are not finished by the time the anime is aired and by the time the light novel does end (either natural or by cancellation) the audience has moved on to a newer anime. So there is no money in producing an anime which finishes the story but has abysmal ratings.
"need to start having proper endings."
They do. In source material. Time to stop watching incomplete anime, hoping it will have an ending only for the series to be dropped.
The overly prepared hero had an ending.
I'm the 99th liker. Who's gonna be the 100th liker?
Yknow, I never really considered it before, but when you look at how long it took for 2 of the big 3 that all held anime on their shoulders to come to their conclusion, and how much they evolve and mature. Shows today don't really get their chance to shine, and the 'best' ones tend to have a few seasons with hopes for more instead of expecting more until the story is done. It's very strange when you compare the two how we just don't expect a show to continue until it's canceled or ends.
Exactly this. This is the actual problem, not the nonsense said in the video.
@@7dayspking I dont even care
Not every story covers a character's whole life and beyond, plenty of these stories that are taking forever to finish altogether cover less than the span of a year or something. Waiting on a long story like Naruto's is kinda worth it when u get character & relationship growth for dozens of characters over many years of their lives, versus a season where 1 or 2 significant things happen followed by a year of waiting.
I.e. other mediums like literature or manga can afford filler and stretching out arcs, meanwhile anime which is now mostly adaptations (which tries to be true to source material) can no longer easily afford hundred episode shows and are instead riding out any lucrative products while they can in order to stay in business long enough to make that one really good show. There's a reason most adaptations in general heavily change the original material, and hopefully that anime originals are making a comeback
That's so true about isekais never concluding! Lol none of the ones I really liked have ever concluded. Not like the main protag ever went 'back', but it still in the process of powering up instead, for something? Idk. But that's an interesting observation 😂❤️🤷♂️
Couldn't agree more. I sooo wanna see your anime in mins again 😭yours were the best!
0:05 really kills me every time I watch it 🤣
This Manz literally put isekai over DARTH JAR JAR
true tho 😂
Idk man, Darth Jar Jar solos your fav universe.
Nice video overall! Summarises everything pretty well. I do wanna make one comment about your point at 10:31, which is that some series do have a proper ending, but are very long. One example of this is Ascendance of a Bookworm (my personal favorite light novel series of all time). The LN has 31 volumes. 3 seasons of the anime have gone through 7 of them. For AoB specifically, the web novel was close to done by the time the LN started, and the LN was pretty far in by the time the anime rolled around. Other series, however, might purposefully drag on just to make more money, but it's possible they have something similar; just wanted to mention it.
11:30 I appreciate the FF13 music.
What I've effectively learnt from all of this, is that there's a lot more Isekai than I even thought possible, so much so that when I hear "fantasy" in anime context, my brain often defaults to "Isekai?..."
Anime: Has swords and magic and shit
Someone out there: IS THAT ISEKAIIII
a lot of the time isekai is just fantasy with an extra trope added on, so understandable
There's actually something kind of sad about the fact that there is more isekai out there than fantasy which stands on its own without the isekai element being involved. Like it doesn't have to be that way but so many writers shoehorn the concept in that it's all we have for the most part.
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Are you talking about web novels or anime?
Because there are 100ish isekai anime and over 3k fantasy.
I'm not sure where to find proper numbers on web novels.
Gigguk has a point. Isekai with an ending is so bloody rare.
Here's hoping Mushoku Tensei can do the job.
Slime and re zero too
@@saifurrehman5007 Re Zero s only halfway thought the novels and we re nearly 30 volumes in,gonna take some time until it finishes. Got like 3 more seasons of content at the moment, even more if they decide to do the EX series (extra volumes focused around side characters: Crusch and Felix s past+what happened to the old royal family, Wilhelm s time in the demihuman war when he was young, visiting the vollachian empire with the knight trio, Priscilla's past.)
Im pretty sure konosubas light novel ended too so hopefully we get that series finished.
I can't speak for all of them, but the problem with Overlord is it's utterly glacial pacing. I was shocked at how much further ahead the books are.
Zero no Tsukaima has an ending
I didn't know much about this genre before this video but I always thought Log Horizon was pretty cool. Every opening is an absolute banger.
You know the expression where you throw spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks? That's isekai, and I think any spaghetti that actually sticks on the wall could have a genuinely interesting story to tell given the sheer amount of competition it has.
Considering Mushoku Tensei's studio was formed just to adapt it, I hope it does eventually reach its end. I've read the whole source material, and goddamn, it deserves to reach its end.
No mushoku is bad anime its the most pervert anime i have ever seen i cant belive the mc rape selfie and attempted rape aries and steal roxy pantyyy!!!!???? Why do people love this animw this anime is the worst anime i have ever seeennnn in ny life😂
Ikr! Mushoku Tensei literally peaks at TP4 and well, it’s gonna be depressing but the story just blooms so greatly there, can’t wait to see it adapted!
@@micahramilo9065 surely you have not watched enough anime to say Mushoku tensei is bad. And also why the heck do you evaluate an anime based on a trivial comedical scene? Can't you see how phenomenal the animation is? The plot and world-building? The cinematic scenes, fluid battle animation? This makes me wonder, what anime is the best according to a person who has a mind like you.
@@micahramilo9065 If you think MT is the most perverted anime you’ve seen firstly you don’t understand the point of the show of how the main character possesses his past hobbies and trauma and continues to improve in another world and secondly man you haven’t seen shit if you think MT is perverted lmao. try watching redo of healer that’s the shit :)
@@konohashinobi8018 youuurrr pervert thheeennn yuckkk wuaaahhhh!!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮
I can think of one exception to the failure to reach conclusions:
The Hero Is Overpowered But Overly Cautious actually reaches a satisfying end in twelve episodes.
Was going to say the same thing. Protagonist kills the Demon Lord, and they set up for a season 2 if they want to explore it.
Not to mention, if the new season would feature them retaking the world that was lost by the main character in the past
yes, but actually no, it has a continuation after that but i dont think well ever see it animated
One of my favourite isekai cause it's different
@@lotariosyt4649 This is about Anime and the anime endings did a very great job
I would love to see an Isekai of the variety where the protag suddenly remembers all their memories of their past life, except at the same time, they lose all memories of their current life. Additionally, this happens when they are in their late teens or older and they have friends, family and acquaintances, to whom the protag does not divulge what has happened. The result is that the protag is now in an unfamiliar world, incapable of asking direct questions about the world without arousing suspicion, surrounded by strangers who were close with the person the protag is trying to fit in as.
In general, what I think is needed in reincarnation Isekai where the protag is not born with the memories of their past life, is more characters who knew the protag before they recovered their memories of their past life and can call them out for their radical shift in behavior.
I have been waiting for this video man, Isekai is nothing more then a vessel to tell other stories and I am rather happy that it can be, it fills the background of the novel and the story so and ends up becoming an avenue for stories to be told that feel like they are given more capability to be expressive and symbolic.
That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime is so much more then just a story of a person who got shifted to another world, and its so much more then just character building based around idea's like idea of rimuru essentially being "the kind of boss that Fuze would want to work for" and its low key kinda cool to see it forming out like this man.
edit: on most sites it isn't really fair to call it clickbait when it usually started because the websites had no tag system or had no "title line" for the uploads so the titles would be written with tags
"We Need An Isekai That Has An Ending"
We have one at least, "Familiar of Zero" had an actual ending at least.
but that fall into category before isekai boom or narou kei boom
Yeah, but the anime is shit
It only ended because the author had cancer and the anime was a tribute to finish his story... Not really the type of ending we want se right...
Cautious Hero also had kind of an ending
I hated the main heroine so much that I dropped the show
My big problem with isekai is sometimes it just doesn't need to be isekai, a lot of the time it feels like a way to get cheap exposition in like having your main character have amnesia so everything can be explained to the audience. Some of them could just be good fantasy anime without the protag being from another world.
Reincarnated as a slime would honestly be better if he was just a slime and they left it open. I already consider the anime good, but it could still be better.
All i see is jesus
@@Jaricko And in that case they could still have things explained to him and the audience since he's just a slime that's been living in a cave, what's he gonna know about the world?
One of the other big ones like this for me is Jobless Reincarnation, very little of what I've seen has shown a reason for Rudy to be a reincarnated guy from our world, he could've just been a kinda anxious kid with a natural aptitude for magic.
@@slime_bird iirc slimes in rimuru's world are without complex intelligence unlike rimuru. They have to came up with another background story should they left the reincarnation part
Rudeus from beginning have mature conscience (defused his father's cheating issue and won an argument against his father) that leaving the reincarnation part wouldn't make any sense either
As a little spoiler, both slime and mushoku tensei would later have a specific reason why Rimuru and Rudeus are reincarnated
@@nikel- But both of those don't need a reincarnation, Rimiru could just be a smart slime or absorbed a human that wandered down there and gained their intelligence.
And Rudy could've just been a mature kid, obviously it wouldn't make sense for him to be as aware as he was when he was a baby, but even that could be handwaved.
Yeah to be fair I haven't finished either, I only saw eight or so episodes of both. But that reason is only there because they were reincarnated, if they decided for it to just be fantasy they could've reworked whatever that reason is or just taken the story in a different direction.
2:47 money. I'm waiting for money Gigguk...
That hit spot, i must say as a fellow isekai trash, this is very much appreciated 👍
As far as I know, Mushoku got an adaption in the first place under the premise, that it WILL be finished instead of axed some episodes in. So I'm positive for this one, although it will take some years. And hopefully on the same visual quality throughout.
Garnt, I love you, but you disrespect Iruma and Myne like that again and I'm gonna have to send you to the shadow realm 🥲
Justice for iruma, yeeee 👍
Hehe! I was just reading a similar comment, above yours mate!
:p
Yeah, he probably only watched the first three episodes of Bookworm, got bored because of its slow pace, dropped it and calling it trash.
Same goes with Cautious Hero and Iruma.
You'll send him to another world so he'll like it
Looks like mother basement is more like words of the people atm
Somehow, out of all the many many animes I've watched, I've never watched an isekai except for 'My Next Life As A Villainess'. I'm a total webnovel/manhwa addict, though! I seriously can't stop reading them, no matter how hard I try. And somehow, even though all of us fans SAY we're tired of the isekai trope, we still keep reading them. Lol
Honestly when you mentioned the ending thing the only one that came to mind was The Familiar of Zero
One of my favorite series is actually an isekai. Youjo Senki is just so delightfully unique, I can't help but love it to bits. Everything about it is wonderful and I implore anyone to check it out if your looking for a isekai war story set in WW 1.5 'Germany'
Eyy my man :)
Youjo senki is one of the best anime I’ve ever seen, can’t wait for season 2
Ahh yes, the insane, murderous loli. Who doesn't want that?
Ok but fr Youjo is actually really good, I fully agree.
It is a perfect example of how much potential there is for isekai, especially outside of the normal medieval fantasy
World War 1.5 is actually a really great description 👍
Garnt: "I honestly believe the genre might be on a path towards a better future"
*Proceeds to show a series made 10 years ago*
8:34 actually we did, it´s called DOOM ETERNAL
I was trying to predict what your improvement suggestion would be, but I wasn't even close. But dang, your analysis is DEAD on!
Not just Isekai, I think all story’s need to be thought with an ending in mind, and it’s a problem with a number of anime. The author might change what the ending will be like down the line, or change how they intended to get to it, but they should just have an ending in mind when they start. Otherwise you run the problem of the story just seemingly going on, and on, and on, and you’re not really sure where to stop, or how to stop, until one day you decide “ok, time to wrap this up now”.
If story’s have an ending already thought up, at least you know that is what you’re working towards. Then you can just do anything in-between.
I think the fundamental problem is that anime is mostly a medium of adaption. Of Manga and Light novels. Which are both platforms where the editors try everything they could to prevent a popular series from ending.
Tbh I watched most of the good anime in the past years and I don’t remember which one of them actually had an ending. Most of them stop at some arc and be forgotten
Admittedly I've seen a couple anime that were like that... just seemed like they were drawing it out way past what should have been a conclusion seasons ago... (but then again if it's anime, they want to get as much as they can out of it... even if it's to a fault... after all, more seasons means more $), however when I'm writing, I try to gauge where to conclude the storyline at the right time, (and usually I find the right spot to close it up, then again there are those odd occasions where the book/series can get away from you...) *Ahem*, yes... I shall admit one of my series got away from me lol! It was ten books with a seperate stand alone (A Chance At Glory!)... that illustrates having too many characters, (isn't always a good thing!) However I look at it as a learning experience, one that I deem not to repeat... after all, a writer is always learning what to do & most importantly... what not to do! :-)
At the very least make the story so it can safely end at any time, like how Akame Ga Kill disposed of it's characters, but making it a more common occurrence to have characters end. They could still be brought back in the form of flashbacks, or even as part of setting up new characters (i.e. the ended character trained a character which gets introduced a while later), and the ending of the manga/anime would simply not introduce any new characters, but only have them end to more powerful enemies, or to tragedies, or to backstabbing, and so on.
Heck, I will probably make a light novel about an immortal who gets reincarnated when his lifetime ends, and he retains or regains his memories from previous lives. Because such a manga would require those lives to end, and it would mean the story can change in time (including changing genres), and it would prevent the existing characters from being the same. At most, I would make other reborners, most of whom only get reborned once or twice, and only few of them getting reborn unlimited or seemingly-unlimited times. This way, the story can progress in different worlds, without being bound to the limits of a single world for too long, which reduces the need for excessive plot armor and plot holes. Because once the limits of one world are met, the main character can move to the next world, in a different body, sometimes not even humanoid, exploring different types of world, societies, and cultures.
fucking One piece
I just truely hope they actually take their time with Mushoku Tensei and do the story justice. I never read any of the story, but I've heard nothing but great things and I'm excited for what's to come.
Damn over a thousand languages and you choose to speak facts. Damn man
PAUUUUUUUUUUUL!!
With how the 2 seasons came out, the future seasons will surely be great unless they pull a seven deadly sins S3
Read it
@@iamlame9591 they won't since Studio Bind is specifically made for Mushoko Tensei
I love Isekai. Ive actually been working on a big theory on why it got its reputation.
the no more heroes theme around the 6 min mark made me giddy