Jinggg switched from Hayate Otsu Soft to Zero Soft during the tournament after like the knockouts started. You could see almost every player run a wooting besides something, f0rsaken and d4v4i. Also something's GPX has basically turned brown with how much he's used it lol
@m_1kser no he just changed mousepads, said it on stream before the upper bracket finals or semi finals. Just watching him aim with Zero compared to the Otsu, his aim looked as good as if not better on stream.
prosettings release a roundup of pro mouse usage for csgo every year I think and by far the most used mouse is the GPX and I think the second most used is the deathadder v3 pro. The narrative amongst casuals may well be that heavier mice are better but that doesn't seem to be the trend amongst pros.
So a mouse being harder to move is better 😂 Sorry casuals have no clue what they are talking about. Weight can be preference but lightweight is still objectively better. Preferring heavy mice is like preferring a heavy racket in sports like tennis/squash/racketball
Steelseries Dex is one of my all time favorite pads together with zowie g-sr and spyre kamek. only reason I swapped off it forever ago was the small size and poor durability (odd given the material).
@Voltaire- I have a feeling the small variance in height in the 'craters' makes a positive, not negative impact on sensor performance as I've mained the dex and AMP500 over alot of other pads because of how good sensor performance seems to be on these surfaces
I'm kind of sad that those kind of pads didn't really catch on. I loved how those pads felt, although the stickiness of the bottom could use some work. lol I used to have the Roccat Hiro and it was basically impossible to clean at one point. It was a sad day when I had to replace that one.
jawgemmo been changing his mice and mousepads a lott but he stuck with this one for this whole tournament. used to use starlight tenz most of time and saturn pro. if i am not mistake that mousepad is also a saturn nacho custom with a skull on it when i was looking at it. If you look at the whole tournament i think you'd find so many interesting mice there was so much variety this tournament. obv a lot of DAV3s and GPX's but a lot of vaxee xe's too, and sooo many different mousepads even different types of artisan mousepads. EDG kangkang and forgot which teammate were using orange zero with signature viper minis too
It’s funny cause originally Prx was a team that had the most niche mice. I remember they were running the v1 Xlite wireless and DAVAI was on the Starlight for a long time too
For the something and d4v41 comments, while i do understand why those peripherals would be considered “bad”, another thing to understand is how every single player has a different background with fps games and therefore have different interests. Like me for example, i dislike these cloth type pads cause i grew up with a pad that had a more plastic base, im a lot more comfortable using the skypad cause that’s what i’m used to, and i’m pretty sure its the same case for them as well. At the end of the day whatever you’re more comfortable with while playing is the most ideal.
I mean they are pros at the end of the day, theyre getting paid to play on a top level than normal players so they need to keep the consistency up there. Cant be switching mouse like the regular us and if we do bad, we tend to switch to another pad or mouse.
@@whate1se while i do agree with the pro side, for the average player or even more experience player mindset is basically funneling through the same recommended products or what the pros or the top pro’s setup, without taking into account our own aiming styles and how well we use certain peripherals. not saying it’s bad to spend on some new gear, just saying think more and make sure the gear youre getting is helping you play more like YOU, not like anyone else
Think you made a little mistake for Ethan’s mouse cuz it’s hard to tell the mouse size by picture, he should be using a Steelseries Prime Mini wireless plugged in
This guy is just a fashion follower. Most people don't take Prime seriously just because it's SteelSeries but they would praise it if it was made by Logitech.
That mouse pad jawgemo is using is a brand called 4114 owned by a fornite pro named Ceice. Mouse pad has been sold out for a long time now, so good luck trying to get one 😂
Conclusion- your settings don’t matter. You can get used to basically anything as long as it’s up to a certain standard and be as good as you ever were or will be
Love this, because it validates my bad financial decisions as someone with a gpx, gsrse and a Wooting on the way, who will probably never get a rank in val, or be competitive in any game.
For some of the things you were missing, some of the Fnatic and DRX players use the DAV3 and like you stated many other teams used. I asked Jawg on his stream what mousepad he was using and he said its unreleased and couldnt say. Otherwise gj. Also, im sure someone in comments have stated you can just goto prosettings *not always updated* or just go to their twitch and they have their gear.
good news, jinggg wasn't admitted into the military due to health reasons (we don't know if it's anything serious or not) so he's back to being a pro yay
btw the mousepad jawg was using was a pad that was unreleased at the time, from 4114. Can't remember the name of the pad but saw that it was out now. If I am not mistaken, this company was started by Elevate and Ceice (fortnite pros)
I used only steelseries for a very long time and never once had any issues with thier mice. The rival is a very good mouse but they haven't come out with anything decent in the last several years.
the reason lower weight mice is preferred by demon1 is cuz his sens is so low and in CS there isnt alot of fast flicks you need to do. but in valorant there is agents flying and abilities flying that you need to shoot. so you have to have fast flicks and movement. but they also want stability so you lower the sens alot but the mice weight is not too heavy letting you flick alot whenever you need to without being mega tired.
I'd love to see this for Overwatch, I've been playing it for a long time and have never found a setup I'm perfectly comfortable with. I'm currently using a G903 with Endgame EM-C and plan on getting the new Artisan Zero and Vaxee Zygen NP-01S B. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what they use and what would be good for how tracking heavy the game is and since it's what I mostly do
Boardzy can you make a clip about Steelseries Apex pro that updated rapid trigger and actuation point now can be 0.1 (From software updated few days ago). Compare to Wooting which one is faster?? 🎉
@boardzy I have a somewhat silly question. You keep mentioning your hand size in your videos, and that it's 21x11 cm. That's the same size as my hands. But your hands straight up looks tiny compared to mine. A great example is your 2 month old video about the EC-CW comparison, where you're gripping both the EC2 and EC3, but legit... When you grip the EC3, it looks bigger than when I grip the EC1. Could you upload a video of how you're measuring? Because something seems really off.
These guys change their stuff all the time. Like every 3-4 months they just switch it up. You can see all kind of setups. Like fast pad with low sens and low weight mouse. Then Slow pad with slow sens and relatively heavy mouse and so on. To be honest. If you want to play with ur arm, fast pad with low weight mouse is fine. I don't think there is an ultimate recipe here though. Just practice, practice, practice, practice. Play a lot of deathmatches, etc.
I think one of the reasons why people arent using newer razer mice is most likely the click timing. The 8k polling optical switches would always cause me to shoot early. Like you would have to flick, stop completely and start pulling back to center, THEN shoot. It feels very odd and I just didnt perform on it.
@@delete5846 this guy is on placebo don't worry about it the mice are really good and even if the timing is 10ms off it's a TINY amount and you'll get used to it
I had that, too when I switched to the dav3. It was most noticeable when doing rocket jumps in arena fps. But it takes like a day to get used to the lower latency and then it's only beneficial.
the yuki aim is not really a shitty mouse pad it is a new smaller brand tryna make a name you should look into them before just calling them trash they are actually passionate about the products they make def a L take
Dude, I play 0.55 sens 400 dpi Valorant. I have an aggressive style. I usually peek everywhere. I don't usually do liftoff. Which type of mouse pad should I choose?
i have prime neo noir, prime mini wireless , but im surprise that prime mini is a better shape for my large hand, what i want to tell is i think prime mini is a better shape
something used to use the GSR-SE, not sure why he switched. also EDG is the most based team, 4 of them use the Orange Zero and they all use wooting as well
something ironic about upper echelon players using and destroying people with basic peripherals meanwhile casual Ned is dumping his life's savings into every top tier mouse/mousepad that drops in hopes of gaining a fraction of that power
The lighter mice trend might be due to the game having a faster pace compared to CS. There's a lot more micro management you need to do and a heavy mouse on a low sense would be a workout.
Believe it or not I played w some of the pro's in unreal tournament 4 and a cuople of old school guys are using a fairly outdated mouses and 10 dollar pads so I guess it's the pure skill after all.Of course that they demolished me...:D
I feel like Valorant is quite different from the playstyle of csgo which might explain why so many valorant players have super light mice and hybrid or speedy control pads rather than 70g mice with mud pads like on CS
This illustrates two things very well. 1: You can get good with anything you feel comfortable with. 2: in tactical fps games aim has heavy diminishing returns past being a decent aimer. There is just so much more going on. Aim only makes up 30% or less of the "recipe" of a good player.
I wouldn't even say there is a "best" in regards to the Zowie mice. all the EC models are internally the same, the difference is grip which is entirely personal preference. I know alot of people who prefer the old EC2A's.
steelseries prime wired is bad? yet ethan won on it in valorant, and karrigan from faze clan won a cs major with it. the click latency was the only bad thing about it really... it has been fixed. the rest of the mouse is solid and the older sensor still performs really well.
For Jawgemo (6:15) the mouse pad is the AERO // FRAGMENT by 4114! hope this helps out for all the people wondering and boardzy!
Jinggg switched from Hayate Otsu Soft to Zero Soft during the tournament after like the knockouts started. You could see almost every player run a wooting besides something, f0rsaken and d4v4i. Also something's GPX has basically turned brown with how much he's used it lol
@m_1kser no he just changed mousepads, said it on stream before the upper bracket finals or semi finals. Just watching him aim with Zero compared to the Otsu, his aim looked as good as if not better on stream.
Would love to see something like this for the ALGS
We all know its just gonna be a controller though...
@@Swrlztruee, so sad tho
Nah, no one uses mouse in ALGS, more like which player is using which roller
real
Apex has rapidly gone downhill and it's just a dogshit mess. Aim assist, dogshit "balancing" even though most of their changes are nerfs
fellas i promise you this isnt getting you out of bronze
yes it is u will be just like pro
U re bronze
these pro analysis videos are pretty based pls do more
prosettings release a roundup of pro mouse usage for csgo every year I think and by far the most used mouse is the GPX and I think the second most used is the deathadder v3 pro. The narrative amongst casuals may well be that heavier mice are better but that doesn't seem to be the trend amongst pros.
So a mouse being harder to move is better 😂
Sorry casuals have no clue what they are talking about. Weight can be preference but lightweight is still objectively better. Preferring heavy mice is like preferring a heavy racket in sports like tennis/squash/racketball
@@yhiz4757Lots of tennis professionals add lead tape for extra weight and plow-through
might be due to belief that ligher= cheap
@@ACE112ACE112 well that's just a stupid myth lmao
@@yhiz4757 Yes I agree
Steelseries Dex is one of my all time favorite pads together with zowie g-sr and spyre kamek. only reason I swapped off it forever ago was the small size and poor durability (odd given the material).
The AMP500 is a bigger/better dex I had a dex for years and I'm always amazed how few people seem to know about it
Also the fabric used in the dex/AMP500 seems to track better sensor wise than any other surface I've used including artisan
@Voltaire- I have a feeling the small variance in height in the 'craters' makes a positive, not negative impact on sensor performance as I've mained the dex and AMP500 over alot of other pads because of how good sensor performance seems to be on these surfaces
I'm kind of sad that those kind of pads didn't really catch on. I loved how those pads felt, although the stickiness of the bottom could use some work. lol
I used to have the Roccat Hiro and it was basically impossible to clean at one point. It was a sad day when I had to replace that one.
jawgemmo been changing his mice and mousepads a lott but he stuck with this one for this whole tournament. used to use starlight tenz most of time and saturn pro. if i am not mistake that mousepad is also a saturn nacho custom with a skull on it when i was looking at it.
If you look at the whole tournament i think you'd find so many interesting mice there was so much variety this tournament. obv a lot of DAV3s and GPX's but a lot of vaxee xe's too, and sooo many different mousepads even different types of artisan mousepads. EDG kangkang and forgot which teammate were using orange zero with signature viper minis too
Iirc a lot of the chinese players on EDG and BLG were using orange zeros
Not a skull. Its one of those Plaster heads you can see on vaporwave albums and stuff.
it was CHICHOO that's using viper mini se
It was an unreleased pad , the 4114 aero I think
It’s funny cause originally Prx was a team that had the most niche mice. I remember they were running the v1 Xlite wireless and DAVAI was on the Starlight for a long time too
would love to see this type of video for more esports in general
This was really interesting to watch, great commentary on it.
For the something and d4v41 comments, while i do understand why those peripherals would be considered “bad”, another thing to understand is how every single player has a different background with fps games and therefore have different interests. Like me for example, i dislike these cloth type pads cause i grew up with a pad that had a more plastic base, im a lot more comfortable using the skypad cause that’s what i’m used to, and i’m pretty sure its the same case for them as well. At the end of the day whatever you’re more comfortable with while playing is the most ideal.
I mean they are pros at the end of the day, theyre getting paid to play on a top level than normal players so they need to keep the consistency up there. Cant be switching mouse like the regular us and if we do bad, we tend to switch to another pad or mouse.
@@whate1se while i do agree with the pro side, for the average player or even more experience player mindset is basically funneling through the same recommended products or what the pros or the top pro’s setup, without taking into account our own aiming styles and how well we use certain peripherals. not saying it’s bad to spend on some new gear, just saying think more and make sure the gear youre getting is helping you play more like YOU, not like anyone else
Think you made a little mistake for Ethan’s mouse cuz it’s hard to tell the mouse size by picture, he should be using a Steelseries Prime Mini wireless plugged in
This is like my 16th boardzy video this month and first time I’ve ever seen your face. Cool!
SS prime is great mouse. the shape is insane and the clicks are the best i ever used.
This guy is just a fashion follower. Most people don't take Prime seriously just because it's SteelSeries but they would praise it if it was made by Logitech.
That mouse pad jawgemo is using is a brand called 4114 owned by a fornite pro named Ceice. Mouse pad has been sold out for a long time now, so good luck trying to get one 😂
can you do something like this for fortnite? or any other games aswell like csgo and other fps
Yeah i definitely can
@@boardzycan you do overwatch?
thanks also guys thanks for the likes ik its only 8 but the most ive had on a comment@@boardzy
@@boardzy you could do a video on the 4 million dollar lan event like what mouse the people at it used its happening in october i thimk
Conclusion- your settings don’t matter. You can get used to basically anything as long as it’s up to a certain standard and be as good as you ever were or will be
Perfectly timed video thank you sir.
Love this, because it validates my bad financial decisions as someone with a gpx, gsrse and a Wooting on the way, who will probably never get a rank in val, or be competitive in any game.
can confirm; I am the best at valorant and I use all of these mice and mousepads at the same time.
So like… do you stack each mouse pad on top of each other and uh… each finger gets its own mouse…? 💀
@@qxRob It's a bit complicated but basically each of my appendages have their own mouse....😉
steelseries prime wired has a 3389 sensor and the recent firmware updates made the mouse pretty good in terms of latency
a player from EDG was using a Viper Mini SE
ZmjjKK and CHICHOO
For some of the things you were missing, some of the Fnatic and DRX players use the DAV3 and like you stated many other teams used. I asked Jawg on his stream what mousepad he was using and he said its unreleased and couldnt say. Otherwise gj. Also, im sure someone in comments have stated you can just goto prosettings *not always updated* or just go to their twitch and they have their gear.
Jaw was on saturn pro
Been looking for a mousepad which is tough and price/performance...
Which pad do you use?
Ty for this info. Solid Roundup
Please do a round up for the Quakecon quake champions finals!!
I find the monitor position at 7:00 the most crazy about their peripherals :D
wait until you see kang kang (EDG ZmjjKK)
this is a normal valorant pro setup
love this style of video man GG
fnatic are deathadder stans fear not razor frogs
good style of video bud, keep up the good work
good news, jinggg wasn't admitted into the military due to health reasons (we don't know if it's anything serious or not) so he's back to being a pro yay
I use the DAV3 Wired. I have huge hands and don't enjoy wireless😎
howw, is that not an excuse?
Ethan's gameplay and using a wired mouse is a gigachad
Please review the Gamesense radar 4mm and the upcoming GSR ll, I love you boardzy.
btw the mousepad jawg was using was a pad that was unreleased at the time, from 4114. Can't remember the name of the pad but saw that it was out now. If I am not mistaken, this company was started by Elevate and Ceice (fortnite pros)
nice stache son
I used only steelseries for a very long time and never once had any issues with thier mice. The rival is a very good mouse but they haven't come out with anything decent in the last several years.
I use a notebook as a mouse pad but it works just fine for me in valorant.
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opinion on newer yuki aim mousepads? forx example the gamesense radar collab?
the reason lower weight mice is preferred by demon1 is cuz his sens is so low and in CS there isnt alot of fast flicks you need to do. but in valorant there is agents flying and abilities flying that you need to shoot. so you have to have fast flicks and movement. but they also want stability so you lower the sens alot but the mice weight is not too heavy letting you flick alot whenever you need to without being mega tired.
Can you do a review on the Endgame Gear OP1WE Gaming Mouse?
I'd love to see this for Overwatch, I've been playing it for a long time and have never found a setup I'm perfectly comfortable with. I'm currently using a G903 with Endgame EM-C and plan on getting the new Artisan Zero and Vaxee Zygen NP-01S B. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what they use and what would be good for how tracking heavy the game is and since it's what I mostly do
hayate otsu is incredible for overwatch. dont know what the equivalent lgg pad is but im sure that works too
Boardzy can you make a clip about Steelseries Apex pro that updated rapid trigger and actuation point now can be 0.1 (From software updated few days ago). Compare to Wooting which one is faster?? 🎉
@boardzy I have a somewhat silly question. You keep mentioning your hand size in your videos, and that it's 21x11 cm. That's the same size as my hands. But your hands straight up looks tiny compared to mine. A great example is your 2 month old video about the EC-CW comparison, where you're gripping both the EC2 and EC3, but legit... When you grip the EC3, it looks bigger than when I grip the EC1.
Could you upload a video of how you're measuring? Because something seems really off.
nice to see you talk about valorant, my favorite esport by far. Great video
Gpx super light the mouse I see in my sleep
Pretty sure jawgemos pad is a custom print vaxee
How much longer tell x2H review I can't buy without your blessing. I know you mentioned you weren't to confertable on it before
Sir Boardzy, any plans on doing a roundup of the new spyre pads?
These guys change their stuff all the time. Like every 3-4 months they just switch it up. You can see all kind of setups. Like fast pad with low sens and low weight mouse. Then Slow pad with slow sens and relatively heavy mouse and so on. To be honest. If you want to play with ur arm, fast pad with low weight mouse is fine. I don't think there is an ultimate recipe here though. Just practice, practice, practice, practice. Play a lot of deathmatches, etc.
endgame catching strays 😂😂
Cool vid. Goes to show. Shape isn’t king. Skill is an always will be king
Boostio was using the Kurosun Ninja for the group stages before he switched
I think one of the reasons why people arent using newer razer mice is most likely the click timing. The 8k polling optical switches would always cause me to shoot early. Like you would have to flick, stop completely and start pulling back to center, THEN shoot. It feels very odd and I just didnt perform on it.
can you explain more i plan on getting the new razor mouse
@@delete5846 this guy is on placebo don't worry about it the mice are really good and even if the timing is 10ms off it's a TINY amount and you'll get used to it
@@delete5846 He's saying it's lower click latency than other mice he's used so he's not as good with it.
I had that, too when I switched to the dav3. It was most noticeable when doing rocket jumps in arena fps. But it takes like a day to get used to the lower latency and then it's only beneficial.
It’s not that deep bruh trust me
the yuki aim is not really a shitty mouse pad it is a new smaller brand tryna make a name you should look into them before just calling them trash they are actually passionate about the products they make def a L take
I like how he has a picture of trumps mugshot saved at the bottom at 7:09 💀💀
Dude, I play 0.55 sens 400 dpi Valorant. I have an aggressive style. I usually peek everywhere. I don't usually do liftoff. Which type of mouse pad should I choose?
something uses the yuki aim mousepad from the brand yuki aim they post him on there twitter if im not mistaken
How is the Endgame gear Xm2we ?
to my knowledge jingg uses hati s plus 4k pink for the longest time
JAWGEMO was using the 4114 Aero Fragment Mouse Pad
THANK YOU for saying my mousepad is based. Saturn pro ftw
the thing about Demon1 is you would see him play wireless first map and wired the other😅
using SS prime Neo noir with original old Roccat Taito. OP combination and not very expensive.
i have prime neo noir, prime mini wireless , but im surprise that prime mini is a better shape for my large hand, what i want to tell is i think prime mini is a better shape
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i have prime mini and i like it but i prefer the original prime shape because the height
I love this video and hope you would do other games like overwatch then maybe I would be in your video
something used to use the GSR-SE, not sure why he switched. also EDG is the most based team, 4 of them use the Orange Zero and they all use wooting as well
Gonna really miss jinggg :(
something ironic about upper echelon players using and destroying people with basic peripherals meanwhile casual Ned is dumping his life's savings into every top tier mouse/mousepad that drops in hopes of gaining a fraction of that power
is prosetting not credible or something why not go there to see there peripherals? It seems they update pretty fast even for not so known players.
The lighter mice trend might be due to the game having a faster pace compared to CS. There's a lot more micro management you need to do and a heavy mouse on a low sense would be a workout.
The wireless receiver from the ec3-cw looks like a tombstone.
Believe it or not I played w some of the pro's in unreal tournament 4 and a cuople of old school guys are using a fairly outdated mouses and 10 dollar pads so I guess it's the pure skill after all.Of course that they demolished me...:D
Boardzy do i buy the Lamzu atlantix mini 4k or the hati s plus 4k i am a current viper mini user
I find it funny that the top 2 teams only had 1 zero user when it seemed like at least 3 players on every other team where using the orange zero
boardzy lowkey looks like demon1 tho
3/5 fnatic players use the deathadder v3 and stax from drx use the dav3 but besides that everyone mainly uses the GPX (based)
I feel like Valorant is quite different from the playstyle of csgo which might explain why so many valorant players have super light mice and hybrid or speedy control pads rather than 70g mice with mud pads like on CS
CS players just boomer mindset. Lots of younger players have reached out to me and use more modern peripherals (mostly gpx)
@@boardzy half the pros use gpx thats a widely known fact, i'm more talking about small mice companies or speedy pads
any chance you have an eta for when GPX v2 will be released?
fnatic and loud use dav3 4 from fnatic and 1 or 2 from loud
we should have more of these vids❤
fnatic alfajer mvp candidate of the year for his insane stats year round uses the hien and dav3
loud and fanatic and some other lot of people in playoff were using v3 pro
would love to see you do one for dota2
are you planning on looking at ASUS new glass pad
can You recommend the gamesense rush mousepad?
This illustrates two things very well. 1: You can get good with anything you feel comfortable with. 2: in tactical fps games aim has heavy diminishing returns past being a decent aimer. There is just so much more going on. Aim only makes up 30% or less of the "recipe" of a good player.
Jawgemo has a 4114 something mousepad
Jingg use HTS+ 4K pink
Jingg uses a np01 wireless
@@merkwey nope
@@airborne22away he has said multiple times he uses npo1s wireless
@@airborne22away literally look at his gear on any website
Pretty sure he switched just bfr champs
What mouse should I go for if I want a safe choice and can’t go wrong
superliught
6:27 is the 4114 Aero
I was just looking for a new mousepad for valorant lmao
I wouldn't even say there is a "best" in regards to the Zowie mice. all the EC models are internally the same, the difference is grip which is entirely personal preference. I know alot of people who prefer the old EC2A's.
what is the best mouse pad for fortnite?tengo el gigantus v2
someone on drx was using the Viper V3 pro
6:37 is the 4114 pad
Shall I buy gpro x superlight or wait for superlight v2.. when v2 is launching?
better wait bro rumors say the new mouse will be out sooner than later
Ethan used xtrfy m4 wireless a while ago
steelseries prime wired is bad? yet ethan won on it in valorant, and karrigan from faze clan won a cs major with it.
the click latency was the only bad thing about it really... it has been fixed. the rest of the mouse is solid and the older sensor still performs really well.
Thanks I hit radiant with my new mouse ❤
any mousepad close to something mousepad?