It's always a somber, sad moment when you see a ship you served on be "decommissioned" and scrapped. Something about standing on the deck of a ship that's about to undergo the knife brings a flash of memories of "all the times". I never served on this ship but I still offer my salute to the countless ones who did. Even if you never served on one of these great beasts, you can't help but feel a sadness for those who did. I served on the USCGC Mobile Bay (80/81). I'm sure at some point in her life, this vessel was able to utilize a track laid down in the ice by one of these little 140ft ice breakers. And being that she was commissioned the same year the Mobile Bay was commissioned, it's a stark reminder these ships grow old and tired. Though the Mobile Bay recently completed her "refit" to add another 20-30 years to her life, it's still sad to see a mighty ship such as this be put down. Fair winds and following seas. 73's
I never thought a ship video would be so remarkably fitting for the decommissioned Algoma Transport. Truly a fine tribute to her and those who served aboard her. Well done!
I sail with Algoma. All I can say is I can understand the pain the crew is going through right now involving the death of their ship, refuge and the loss of family on that old girl. Thank you for capturing this moment so beautifully.
Not very often that a boat sails to the scrapyard under her own power, but I know it's happened with more than a few Algoma Central boats in recent years. Excellent cinematography, and the somber music is appropriate as well.
Aww, ever sad seeing the Tecumseh chopped up. I got to ride from one grain elevator to another here in Thunder Bay with Cap'n Vaughn. The shape of the hull made it look like a hot rod of the lakes. Seen the Algoma Transport in Thunder Bay a few times.
Over the last few years, I have really got into following these ships. For 20 years I was an Aviation junkie but I no longer live near an airport. The ships have that same awe a big aeroplane gave me. Extremely fascinating
@@livinginavwvan207if it was structurally comprised, they would've towed it there instead of under her own power with a crew aboard. I'm thinking the engines needed a major overhaul if not replacement that was too costly of an investment. Plus the reclaimer unloading system had to be a maintenance nightmare. It was originally designed for the softer coal industry. The stone and taconite pellets probably beat on that system pretty good
@livinginavwvan207 It's not pretty but it doesn't structurally compromise the ship in anyway. Most ships (and planes for that matter) coming have this "tin canning" effect after do many years in service
My eyes are also leaking. It was seeing a crew member looking out a small opening on the side of the ship 10:13 that got me going. I assume she is costing too much money to continue sailing her. 😢 🇨🇦 PS I subscribed, good luck with your channel!
Yes, even though I’ve never been on one of these ships, I have grown to love the industry. It comes alive to us through the lenses of these amazing photographers. @@55VickyV
Grew up in Michigan, but never saw these majestic behemoths until I moved to Minnesota and started taking trips to Duluth. The videography and music caused me to feel an appreciation for a mammoth hunk of steel, and certainly for those who served on her...and a bit of sadness. I can't help but feel that the ship itself, absorbs the souls of the crew and becomes animate. ✌️♥️ Mark
Even though entering in reverse, she went in with her head held high. No tugs and the softest docking maneuver I've ever witnessed in my 21 years with Uncle Sam's Navy.
So hard to see her career ending. She was a favorite of mine and I will always keep videos of her. Thank you for all the years of service you put in. ❤😢Thank you for sharing this with us.
Seeing a ship of any size being scrapped it always a sad sight. For years i was facinated by Aviation bone yards, but in revent years i have started followng ships and thier lives
Just talked to my brother about this boat. It had 2- MAN , medium speed diesel engines at 8000hp and a Kamewa variable pitch propeller, one thing it had when it was just commissioned was 2 port holes over top of the propeller, they would put strobe lights on the prop to watch and document there findings. It also had 2 , shaft generator sets.
My older brother served as the third engineer on the Transport when it was commissioned in 1987. They were steaming one night in the Detroit river and the stern anchor had slowly payed out and grabbed what ever was down there. Phone and communication cables pipes of all sorts. When new it had a lot of teething problems like complete loss of power.
I told my wife I'm going out for an hour, I was gone 4 and it was worth it. Met that ship last year while on my seadoo. Also remember seeing her on winter layover a few years ago in Toronto
Hopefully you didn't get doghouse time for being Tardy. If my Ex could find a reason to complain, she took full advantage of it... meanwhile she did as she pleased. @@NigelHay
As I was there filming it, an idea of music type popped into my head, so I tried to use the drone to work with a certain sound in my head. It looks like it worked. I was blown away by how well this video did. Tbh I'm very proud of this video.
Fantastic video and drone work. This is rather sad actually. Thank you for your coverage of this and other things. I'm new to your channel. I live 40 mi south of Erie PA and don't make it up there too often so it's nice to keep abreast this way.
Hi Lisa, welcome to the channel, I'll be heading West on Lake Erie in the next few weeks and hope to capture some of the bigger ships down there. As for Algoma Transport, so sad to see it just sitting there 5 months on
This is the former Canadian Transport, built for Upper Lakes Shipping in Port Weller. It's sad to see it go, as my father was a captain for ULS. I'm not sure if he was ever captain of the Canadian Transport. I think at this point in his career he was "Fleet Captain", which meant he was assigned to ships where the captains needed assistance - it could be they were inexperienced with a specific route, or my father had a certification on his master's license that the regular captain did not, or whatever. He was even loaned out to Ford for one summer to command a car transport - which I was told was close to 50,000 tons! The Canadian / Algoma Transport was built to the standardized design that ULS started using in the 1960's. The first one, which I think was the Canadian Century (in honour of the 100th anniversary of Confederation), still had the wheelhouse at the bow. Thanks for the video.
Its ironic that some ships much older are still in use, but the A T is going to the scrapyard. Sad to see them get torn apart but better that than risking breaking up and sinking.
I remember seeing this ship in Owen Sound, ON harbor different times over the years. I also noticed the 1 time on how bad the outside of the ship was looking and now I know why they didn't keep painting it. Sad to see it being decommissioned but it looks in rough condition. Not very seaworthy anymore
I have video footage of her from earlier in 2023 and when i saw the state of the outside of the bridge (paint below bridge) it was hard to beleive i only had seen it a couple of months ago. sad tbh
Gracias a este video quedará inmortalizado para siempre su última gran entrada a puerto . Mis saludos y respetos a todos sus tripulantes. Excelente trabajo de imágenes música.
That's kinda of sad to see, but this also isn't one of the great classic lakers. Clearly a ship that was rode hard and put up wet. I'd be curious if it also has to do with the rumor of the Edward L Ryerson going to Algoma I keep seeing in comments about the ship. Would be interesting to find out!
This is my third time watching this video. Now I'm getting emotional because it's also my first time noticing the man at 7:02 standing in the opening to the engine room, hanging his head. I can only try to imagine how sad this would have been for someone who worked in the very heart of the ship.
Happy new year Nigel. Beautiful video. That's a beautiful ship. Lots of history. I bet if it could talk. It would have many stories? Ya. Everything has an End😢. A few more months and we'll be back out Seadooing. There's almost enough snow here around Timmins to go Skidooing. Take care.
Hi Edward, no Skidoing for me, 10 weeks and the Seadoo is back out. As for the ship, I spent most of today watching videos from several years ago about the Algoma Transport and on a FB group thete were some great photos from inside the ship taken yesterday
not sure how I ended up here looks scenic though the drone shots and snow, but is she old and broken or is it just a rule that the hulls of greatlakes ships must be retired after 45 years, like they forge engineers on the railroad and airline pilots to retire at a certain age, still the great lakes can be down right inhospitable to ships even though its freshwater, it has many shipwrecks and storms to tell the danger especially around early winter
I would like to a documentary style video. I've been working on one that still hasn't been finished, when I post it, I'll see how it's recieved and take it from there.
Her sides are compromised, she's not seaworthy anymore. Alpena is 81 years old, and Arthur Anderson (Fitz's last contact) is 72 years old, both cost a lot to maintain, typically more than they're worth. The only reason they're both still around is the history. I just hope they retire Anderson gracefully and make her into a museum ship or something.
@@robdog1245first leave out the Fitzgerald. You really need to GET OVER IT. Second there are many reasons they keep the older ships and history has nothing to do with it. Third the Anderson might be able to survive as a museum ship but it is highly unlikely. Museum ships are struggling and not working so it's not worth the effort.
The ship was very good for age built 1979 but hauling salt this is tough on steel brace and body himself.she pay up herself algoma marine knew time was due maintenance cost.my brothers work as officer for patterson,csl,upperlakes,algoma marine and expose cost run ship like this not cheap.sad let her dock for scrap but pure economic win at end sad but true.thanks video😮
Back in the day, and I was on vacation in Sault Ste Marie, Michigan. I was on a Soo Locks Tour Boat 🚢 and when just finished locking through the Poe Lock. The Soo Locks Tour Boat 🚢 and was heading Upbound and towards Sault Ste Marie, Ontario and towards Algoma Steel Plant. I had seen the Canadian Transport, (Algoma Transport).And, when the Canadian Transport is unloading ore,at,the Algoma Steel Plant and I took a picture 📸 of the Canadian Transport 📸. And, to this very day and I still have the picture 📸 of the Canadian Transport unloading her Cargo. I, will not throw the picture out. I, have a photo 📸 📷 album on the old Great Lakes Freighters that have been scrapped to this very day. This 🚢 Freighter being 45yearsold,is way too young to be scrapped. The ALGOMA TRANSPORT will be missed and at,least I have a,picture of the Canadian Transport unloading her Cargo. I took the picture 📸 of the Canadian Transport in 1995. 10:13
It's funny how we can become attached to something, Plane, Ship or even our own car. We put faith into it and when it's time is up, we become sad. strange how many of us experience this
i didn't think there are ship breakers here in ontario or canada given high labor rates and regulations. i would have expected this in india or turkey or elsewhere in asia.
There are much older ships still out there and in better shape. I think Algoma was just really neglectful of their fleet. I’ve worked on many of the Great Lakes ships here in Milwaukee. Around 2014 or so, two Algoma boats were sent out early in the spring (late winter?), and both were damaged by the ice. One had a fairly minor crack, and the other had its bow peeled wide open. We got a late cold snap that year, and it was miserable to work on. What struck me the most, was that both of these ships were very rusty and dirty. The crew were nice enough, though. One guy had the thickest accent I have ever heard in my life. He was from Nova Scotia, but sounded Scottish, lol.
Nova Scotia is rather Scottish so that would make sense. As for being neglectful, i think it has a lot to do with what they carried. The salt they carried caused a lot of internal damage and the cost of the repair must of been to high in comparrison to commisioning a new vessel
To me it's very sad to see these beautiful old girls go all the years they have served why don't they just refit them. And another 40 plus years they will continue.❤
Sad day for a grand ship. Her Cap'n did a great job of backing her in. Are the crew unemployed now I wonder? Good video and the music was appropriate. Thanks.
It would be interesting to know how many engine hours, miles she traveled and also the total tons of cargo she carried over all those years. Also who served the longest on her.
Good questions, there are a couple of great facebook groups that actually have crew members within the groups that would probably answer that. try this one "Ship Junkies - Lakes, Locks & Rivers (LL&R)"
If you want a good comparison,. Hauling Salt.... That stuff gets everywhere and it eats like a Cancer, or Worse maybe(as we as humans don't last a 40yr fight typically)..... But again that stuff gets Everywhere.... from every bolt on the conveyor to being tracked by foot throughout the ship, Stairs, floors, corners... again everywhere. Think of vehicles in the northern US where they salt the roads, a car or truck can be rusted through in 5 years, yes the metal is thinner. but I have had a truck on a car lift that was from Ohio and the chassis or or main frame was paper thin or the bed of the truck was pretty much holding it together. Any holes in the holds would eventually allow a brine mix to get to the structure in addition to the atmosphere of salt in the air constantly being hauled. Think about the misty to rainy days where the vapors penetrate every crevice.(and all the time that has passed... years) I probably can't imagine how bad of condition that ship is in and it is also a huge safety factor hauling such a payload any missed repairs over the years and encountering storms and rough waters could cause it to seemingly implode or buckle and sink suddenly. Meanwhile we have vehicles that are running around that have been protected from such exposure that are in Mint condition 70 years old or more. Apples to Oranges maybe but similar on a way larger scale. I know from experience, Rusty bolts and maintenance on anything exposed to acidic or salty conditions is a Total Nightmare to try and service and work on. I'm sure the Old Girl was tired, as that was Corrosive Life from day one. Rest In Peace
I grew up by the sea and during big storms, the sea spray would make it over to the parking lot, back in the 80's the cars parked there rusted very quickly, SALT!
its always sad to see a ship come to the end of its life. Newer technology, cleaner demands from the government and the unstoppable force of time will take their toll.
Why is this more modern vessel being scrapped, a few days ago I watched a recent video of a lakes freighter 80 years old going into a lock, one would think the older vessels with the wheelhouse up on the bow and engine room aft would go first.
How does that work than with the crew of that vessel? Are they split up and relocated with different boats or is there a new boat replacing this one and the crew gets placed in the new boat?
Curious about how this is done. Do they mostly gut the ship at this dock before moving it to a dry dock for the final dismantling? This was a great presentation for her final docking. Thank you.
@@RailPreserver2KI just saw something about, I think the Mark W Barker. If I remember correctly they took the big conveyer off an older ship being scraped and re built it and put it on the MWB.
@@NigelHay. She’s likely responsible for the salt piles at the Parry Sound salt dock as well! The trucks run all summer and fall taking it inland for the highway yards.
Why are the ships around the Great Lakes so old, even more than half a century old? Doesn't the company suffered losses because old ships suffer a lot of damage so maintenance costs are very expensive?
Cost mainly, the ship is corrodong on the inside due to salt being transported. Also this ship apparently is expensive to operate in today world. I heard it has the highest number of crew due to it big engine
Same here, watching her come in and knowing it's her last time with engine's running gave me an odd sense of sadness. Same when I see aircraft flying for the very last time..
Because she hauled a lot of salt out of the Goderich Mines. She looks better on the outside than some others in Algoma fleet, but apparently, she's rusted out badly in the cargo holds.
Seems fairly young for a Great Lakes freighter. 50+ years isn't uncommon. Any to built a complete new ship from scratch...seems like it would be at least a little more cost effective to yank the entire pilothouse/engine and redo it. But I'm sure someone way smarter than me ran the finances. It would be fun however, to work on the ship breaking.
It's always a somber, sad moment when you see a ship you served on be "decommissioned" and scrapped. Something about standing on the deck of a ship that's about to undergo the knife brings a flash of memories of "all the times". I never served on this ship but I still offer my salute to the countless ones who did. Even if you never served on one of these great beasts, you can't help but feel a sadness for those who did. I served on the USCGC Mobile Bay (80/81). I'm sure at some point in her life, this vessel was able to utilize a track laid down in the ice by one of these little 140ft ice breakers. And being that she was commissioned the same year the Mobile Bay was commissioned, it's a stark reminder these ships grow old and tired. Though the Mobile Bay recently completed her "refit" to add another 20-30 years to her life, it's still sad to see a mighty ship such as this be put down. Fair winds and following seas. 73's
Bummed I never got the chance to see this ship, always wanted to but never worked out. So long Transport….
I never thought a ship video would be so remarkably fitting for the decommissioned Algoma Transport. Truly a fine tribute to her and those who served aboard her. Well done!
As she came into view I instantly knew what I wanted to do with the video.
I sail with Algoma. All I can say is I can understand the pain the crew is going through right now involving the death of their ship, refuge and the loss of family on that old girl.
Thank you for capturing this moment so beautifully.
... it has to be hard to say good bye to your old house ... same thing ...
I'm happy I managed to capture people's emotion with the video
Yay Algoma bear is out
Not very often that a boat sails to the scrapyard under her own power, but I know it's happened with more than a few Algoma Central boats in recent years.
Excellent cinematography, and the somber music is appropriate as well.
Thanks, I'm happy you enjoyed it. I think i acheived what i set out to do that day
Aww, ever sad seeing the Tecumseh chopped up. I got to ride from one grain elevator to another here in Thunder Bay with Cap'n Vaughn. The shape of the hull made it look like a hot rod of the lakes. Seen the Algoma Transport in Thunder Bay a few times.
Over the last few years, I have really got into following these ships. For 20 years I was an Aviation junkie but I no longer live near an airport.
The ships have that same awe a big aeroplane gave me. Extremely fascinating
I grew up on Lake Superior in Michipicoten, watching the lake boats take iron ore to the Sault.
Great video and wonderful comments.
Planes and Ships are just facinating for me, i could sit and watch for hours
Wow, as lake freighters go she is almost new being built in 1979!
Looked pretty beat up to me. I guess the scrap value is more $$ towards a new/newer ship than refurbishing this one
@@livinginavwvan207 Didn't seem to me to be anything that a good sandblasting and a new coat of paint couldn't take care of.
My guess is the sides are structurally compromised, you shouldn't be able to see the ribs like that @@RRose-ie8oh
@@livinginavwvan207if it was structurally comprised, they would've towed it there instead of under her own power with a crew aboard. I'm thinking the engines needed a major overhaul if not replacement that was too costly of an investment. Plus the reclaimer unloading system had to be a maintenance nightmare. It was originally designed for the softer coal industry. The stone and taconite pellets probably beat on that system pretty good
@livinginavwvan207 It's not pretty but it doesn't structurally compromise the ship in anyway. Most ships (and planes for that matter) coming have this "tin canning" effect after do many years in service
My eyes aren’t leaking 😢 Great job with your cameras, and the music choice is perfect.
Thank you Wendy, I think I managed to add some emotion to the images
My eyes are also leaking. It was seeing a crew member looking out a small opening on the side of the ship 10:13 that got me going. I assume she is costing too much money to continue sailing her. 😢 🇨🇦 PS I subscribed, good luck with your channel!
Yes, even though I’ve never been on one of these ships, I have grown to love the industry. It comes alive to us through the lenses of these amazing photographers. @@55VickyV
Grew up in Michigan, but never saw these majestic behemoths until I moved to Minnesota and started taking trips to Duluth. The videography and music caused me to feel an appreciation for a mammoth hunk of steel, and certainly for those who served on her...and a bit of sadness. I can't help but feel that the ship itself, absorbs the souls of the crew and becomes animate. ✌️♥️ Mark
Even though entering in reverse, she went in with her head held high. No tugs and the softest docking maneuver I've ever witnessed in my 21 years with Uncle Sam's Navy.
So hard to see her career ending. She was a favorite of mine and I will always keep videos of her. Thank you for all the years of service you put in. ❤😢Thank you for sharing this with us.
when rock-salt gets damp it tends to solidify, and the pressure of the weight of the salt forces it to produce even more solidification.
Seeing a ship of any size being scrapped it always a sad sight. For years i was facinated by Aviation bone yards, but in revent years i have started followng ships and thier lives
If steel could only speak..Great job ship and crew
Shipping is so old and backward up that way. Amazing to see.
Another great ship gone from the lakes brilliant video
Just talked to my brother about this boat. It had 2- MAN , medium speed diesel engines at 8000hp and a Kamewa variable pitch propeller, one thing it had when it was just commissioned was 2 port holes over top of the propeller, they would put strobe lights on the prop to watch and document there findings. It also had 2 , shaft generator sets.
My older brother served as the third engineer on the Transport when it was commissioned in 1987. They were steaming one night in the Detroit river and the stern anchor had slowly payed out and grabbed what ever was down there. Phone and communication cables pipes of all sorts. When new it had a lot of teething problems like complete loss of power.
Docking like a boss! fun fact, the Transport has a sauna on board.
Surely appreciated in the winters!
So sad. Beautiful send off!
Words are lost.
Beautiful images and music.
Outstanding.
Thanks for producing and posting this video. Camera work is first rate. Masterfully done!
I told my wife I'm going out for an hour, I was gone 4 and it was worth it. Met that ship last year while on my seadoo. Also remember seeing her on winter layover a few years ago in Toronto
Hopefully you didn't get doghouse time for being Tardy.
If my Ex could find a reason to complain, she took full advantage of it... meanwhile she did as she pleased.
@@NigelHay
Wow! Absolutely beautiful!
This was a very beautiful, respectful video. Thanks for taking the time to make it so.
As I was there filming it, an idea of music type popped into my head, so I tried to use the drone to work with a certain sound in my head. It looks like it worked. I was blown away by how well this video did. Tbh I'm very proud of this video.
Thank you for being there to capture this important moment! What a well done video!
Fantastic video and drone work. This is rather sad actually. Thank you for your coverage of this and other things. I'm new to your channel. I live 40 mi south of Erie PA and don't make it up there too often so it's nice to keep abreast this way.
Hi Lisa, welcome to the channel, I'll be heading West on Lake Erie in the next few weeks and hope to capture some of the bigger ships down there. As for Algoma Transport, so sad to see it just sitting there 5 months on
This is the former Canadian Transport, built for Upper Lakes Shipping in Port Weller. It's sad to see it go, as my father was a captain for ULS. I'm not sure if he was ever captain of the Canadian Transport. I think at this point in his career he was "Fleet Captain", which meant he was assigned to ships where the captains needed assistance - it could be they were inexperienced with a specific route, or my father had a certification on his master's license that the regular captain did not, or whatever. He was even loaned out to Ford for one summer to command a car transport - which I was told was close to 50,000 tons!
The Canadian / Algoma Transport was built to the standardized design that ULS started using in the 1960's. The first one, which I think was the Canadian Century (in honour of the 100th anniversary of Confederation), still had the wheelhouse at the bow.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the information
Its ironic that some ships much older are still in use, but the A T is going to the scrapyard. Sad to see them get torn apart but better that than risking breaking up and sinking.
Very enjoyable video, great picture quality and drone work. Thank u
great film, well done even the music was spot on.
Just sad seeing a ship going to be torched..well at least she got there under her own Power...fair winds....
It was good to see her come in on her own power, even better seeing her coming in backwards.
I remember seeing this ship in Owen Sound, ON harbor different times over the years. I also noticed the 1 time on how bad the outside of the ship was looking and now I know why they didn't keep painting it. Sad to see it being decommissioned but it looks in rough condition. Not very seaworthy anymore
I have video footage of her from earlier in 2023 and when i saw the state of the outside of the bridge (paint below bridge) it was hard to beleive i only had seen it a couple of months ago. sad tbh
I live along the Ohio River, there's one if not two companies for dry dock and repairs. I'd love to sit still long enough to see that.
I drive down to Port Colborne once a month or so just to see what state they are at on a ship they are scrapping
Thanks for the good memories of both transport and Griffin from when I worked at CGRS Sarnia(vbe)
Glad you enjoyed it
I looked up her replacement, the Algoma Bear, she appears to still be under construction in China.
suppose to be on her way ready for Spring wasn't she?
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Gracias a este video quedará inmortalizado para siempre su última gran entrada a puerto . Mis saludos y respetos a todos sus tripulantes. Excelente trabajo de imágenes música.
That's kinda of sad to see, but this also isn't one of the great classic lakers. Clearly a ship that was rode hard and put up wet. I'd be curious if it also has to do with the rumor of the Edward L Ryerson going to Algoma I keep seeing in comments about the ship. Would be interesting to find out!
All I really know about this particular ship is that the haulage of salt over the years have caused a lot of damage
This is my third time watching this video. Now I'm getting emotional because it's also my first time noticing the man at 7:02 standing in the opening to the engine room, hanging his head. I can only try to imagine how sad this would have been for someone who worked in the very heart of the ship.
I’ve seen an Algoma ship here in Owen Sound Ontario, Georgian Bay.
I've seen this ship in the harbor over the years.
Happy new year Nigel.
Beautiful video. That's a beautiful ship. Lots of history.
I bet if it could talk. It would have many stories? Ya. Everything has an End😢. A few more months and we'll be back out Seadooing.
There's almost enough snow here around Timmins to go Skidooing. Take care.
Hi Edward, no Skidoing for me, 10 weeks and the Seadoo is back out. As for the ship, I spent most of today watching videos from several years ago about the Algoma Transport and on a FB group thete were some great photos from inside the ship taken yesterday
Wow I've seen her for sure whilst fishing Bronte area
She really was an iconic ship that stood out when you saw her
Ships as old as me wow , is a nice lil vid
not sure how I ended up here looks scenic though the drone shots and snow, but is she old and broken or is it just a rule that the hulls of greatlakes ships must be retired after 45 years, like they forge engineers on the railroad and airline pilots to retire at a certain age, still the great lakes can be down right inhospitable to ships even though its freshwater, it has many shipwrecks and storms to tell the danger especially around early winter
On this particular vessel, it appears that the salt that it has transported over the years have damaged the inside
Bet it’s a sad day for Captain and the crew it’s like taking your best friend off of life support 😥
Here is the Algoma Transport heading into Duluth picking up that last load of ore. th-cam.com/video/ov9I3PE4BDc/w-d-xo.html
I worked on the transport as a pipefitter assistant and laborer during on of her winter layups
Will they reuse the conveyor system ? Good luck to the Captain and Crew in your next Jobs ! You served your ship Proud ❤!!
Have you considered asking to do a documentary type thing for something like this? And about the Captain and crew? 🤷♀️
I would like to a documentary style video.
I've been working on one that still hasn't been finished, when I post it, I'll see how it's recieved and take it from there.
Well done, sir !
Thank you kindly!
I guess I'm surprised to see such a large, and relatively newer freighter being scrapped when there's smaller, older vessels still plying the lakes.
Her sides are compromised, she's not seaworthy anymore. Alpena is 81 years old, and Arthur Anderson (Fitz's last contact) is 72 years old, both cost a lot to maintain, typically more than they're worth. The only reason they're both still around is the history. I just hope they retire Anderson gracefully and make her into a museum ship or something.
Agreed, The Anderson deserves to live on after her final run.@@robdog1245
@@robdog1245first leave out the Fitzgerald. You really need to GET OVER IT. Second there are many reasons they keep the older ships and history has nothing to do with it. Third the Anderson might be able to survive as a museum ship but it is highly unlikely. Museum ships are struggling and not working so it's not worth the effort.
Thank you for taking the time to post this .
My pleasure!
The ship was very good for age built 1979 but hauling salt this is tough on steel brace and body himself.she pay up herself algoma marine knew time was due maintenance cost.my brothers work as officer for patterson,csl,upperlakes,algoma marine and expose cost run ship like this not cheap.sad let her dock for scrap but pure economic win at end sad but true.thanks video😮
Back in the day, and I was on vacation in Sault Ste Marie, Michigan. I was on a Soo Locks Tour Boat 🚢 and when just finished locking through the Poe Lock. The Soo Locks Tour Boat 🚢 and was heading Upbound and towards Sault Ste Marie, Ontario and towards Algoma Steel Plant. I had seen the Canadian Transport, (Algoma Transport).And, when the Canadian Transport is unloading ore,at,the Algoma Steel Plant and I took a picture 📸 of the Canadian Transport 📸. And, to this very day and I still have the picture 📸 of the Canadian Transport unloading her Cargo. I, will not throw the picture out. I, have a photo 📸 📷 album on the old Great Lakes Freighters that have been scrapped to this very day. This 🚢 Freighter being 45yearsold,is way too young to be scrapped. The ALGOMA TRANSPORT will be missed and at,least I have a,picture of the Canadian Transport unloading her Cargo.
I took the picture 📸 of the Canadian Transport in 1995. 10:13
It's funny how we can become attached to something, Plane, Ship or even our own car. We put faith into it and when it's time is up, we become sad. strange how many of us experience this
Good to see the old junk being decommissioned and scrapped.
Time to modernize finally.
i didn't think there are ship breakers here in ontario or canada given high labor rates and regulations. i would have expected this in india or turkey or elsewhere in asia.
I beleive they are the only one on the Great Lakes,
Most of the American ships are to big to go through the Welland.
I can’t believe they’re scrapping her
It's to do with Salt corrosion on the inside, all the salt she has carried over the years has taken its toll on her interior
There are much older ships still out there and in better shape. I think Algoma was just really neglectful of their fleet.
I’ve worked on many of the Great Lakes ships here in Milwaukee. Around 2014 or so, two Algoma boats were sent out early in the spring (late winter?), and both were damaged by the ice. One had a fairly minor crack, and the other had its bow peeled wide open. We got a late cold snap that year, and it was miserable to work on.
What struck me the most, was that both of these ships were very rusty and dirty. The crew were nice enough, though. One guy had the thickest accent I have ever heard in my life. He was from Nova Scotia, but sounded Scottish, lol.
Nova Scotia is rather Scottish so that would make sense. As for being neglectful, i think it has a lot to do with what they carried. The salt they carried caused a lot of internal damage and the cost of the repair must of been to high in comparrison to commisioning a new vessel
Salute! 🌹⚓
To me it's very sad to see these beautiful old girls go all the years they have served why don't they just refit them. And another 40 plus years they will continue.❤
This vessel hauled salt. Her internal structure is toast.
Sad day for a grand ship. Her Cap'n did a great job of backing her in.
Are the crew unemployed now I wonder?
Good video and the music was appropriate.
Thanks.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
The crew would be relocated to the other Algoma ships in the fleet
RIP
It would be interesting to know how many engine hours, miles she traveled and also the total tons of cargo she carried over all those years. Also who served the longest on her.
Good questions, there are a couple of great facebook groups that actually have crew members within the groups that would probably answer that. try this one "Ship Junkies - Lakes, Locks & Rivers (LL&R)"
i enjoyed your video
Why would a vessel this young be scraped? Is it because of wash boarding?
The years of carrying salt have taken it's toll on her hull
Damn good information.
Well more than one lol. We have the marine school here in Owen Sound at Georgian College
If you want a good comparison,. Hauling Salt.... That stuff gets everywhere and it eats like a Cancer, or Worse maybe(as we as humans don't last a 40yr fight typically)..... But again that stuff gets Everywhere.... from every bolt on the conveyor to being tracked by foot throughout the ship, Stairs, floors, corners... again everywhere.
Think of vehicles in the northern US where they salt the roads, a car or truck can be rusted through in 5 years, yes the metal is thinner. but I have had a truck on a car lift that was from Ohio and the chassis or or main frame was paper thin or the bed of the truck was pretty much holding it together.
Any holes in the holds would eventually allow a brine mix to get to the structure in addition to the atmosphere of salt in the air constantly being hauled. Think about the misty to rainy days where the vapors penetrate every crevice.(and all the time that has passed... years)
I probably can't imagine how bad of condition that ship is in and it is also a huge safety factor hauling such a payload any missed repairs over the years and encountering storms and rough waters could cause it to seemingly implode or buckle and sink suddenly.
Meanwhile we have vehicles that are running around that have been protected from such exposure that are in Mint condition 70 years old or more.
Apples to Oranges maybe but similar on a way larger scale.
I know from experience, Rusty bolts and maintenance on anything exposed to acidic or salty conditions is a Total Nightmare to try and service and work on.
I'm sure the Old Girl was tired, as that was Corrosive Life from day one.
Rest In Peace
I grew up by the sea and during big storms, the sea spray would make it over to the parking lot, back in the 80's the cars parked there rusted very quickly, SALT!
Pretty sad to see it go...😔
its always sad to see a ship come to the end of its life. Newer technology, cleaner demands from the government and the unstoppable force of time will take their toll.
So will salt.
Why is this more modern vessel being scrapped, a few days ago I watched a recent video of a lakes freighter 80 years old going into a lock, one would think the older vessels with the wheelhouse up on the bow and engine room aft would go first.
The older ships don't haul salt. This one did. Her internal structure is toast.
How does that work than with the crew of that vessel? Are they split up and relocated with different boats or is there a new boat replacing this one and the crew gets placed in the new boat?
I always wondered when do you know when a freighter needs to be scraped.
in my head i'm thinking as soon as i see a leak spring open lol, seriously though, thats a good question
What is the name of this place. Thx.
Port Colborne, Ontario
Did not know it had become economically feasible to scrap a ship in Canada.
A lot of the ships are to big to go through the Welland Canal. So it has to happen on the lakes.
How do they drag it up onto land for the dismantling process?
I was wondering the same thing
They have a crane system.
@@jamesbraun9842. I’d like to see that in operation.
Curious about how this is done. Do they mostly gut the ship at this dock before moving it to a dry dock for the final dismantling? This was a great presentation for her final docking. Thank you.
My understanding is it will lay over where it is right now while she is decommissioned and then moved 200 meters for scrapping.
In April I'll ride out on to the water to see how far they have got with scrapping her
Do they try saving stuff from the older ships ?
@@RailPreserver2K I would bet the mother company saves bits and pieces of all dismantled ships. Who wouldn't want some memorabilia?
@@RailPreserver2KI just saw something about, I think the Mark W Barker. If I remember correctly they took the big conveyer off an older ship being scraped and re built it and put it on the MWB.
How large a ship was this & maximum tonnage haulded? Sad.
you're a romantic,, aren't you, lol,, love the video,, and of course the music
I guess so in a way. I just found it went well with what I had captured.
The music helps with capturing the emotion of its last journey
Is it in rough shape structurally? Is that the reason for the scrapping? Quite a few ships older than this one still sailing.
The years of carrying salt have taken its toll on the inside of the ship
@@NigelHay. She’s likely responsible for the salt piles at the Parry Sound salt dock as well! The trucks run all summer and fall taking it inland for the highway yards.
I always feel a bit sad to see an old work horse being sent to scrap!!
Why are the ships around the Great Lakes so old, even more than half a century old? Doesn't the company suffered losses because old ships suffer a lot of damage so maintenance costs are very expensive?
Fresh water certainly he,ps. Yearly refitting. Shipping mostly ends in December & restarts in early Spring.
Not many ships enjoy the luxury of being broken up in the good old US of A.
The scrap yard is in Canada genius.
hate to see good working ships getting scraped.
She hauled salt. Her internal structure is toast.
What a diffrence in ship breaking ,it's so clean ther compared to India
Why did they scrap the ship? Its not very old in the grand scheme
45 y ain't long service for such a ship. Why was she scrapped?
Hauling salt killed the insides and the steel is too thin now
Is the picture in thumbnail normal or is it stretched
It's normal, I took it in summer 2023 while out on my seadoo, (GoPro image)
Ok so i am Lost to why thar scraping it
Cost mainly, the ship is corrodong on the inside due to salt being transported.
Also this ship apparently is expensive to operate in today world. I heard it has the highest number of crew due to it big engine
This is the end 😮
Great content, great music. Sort of feel sorry for the old girl.
Same here, watching her come in and knowing it's her last time with engine's running gave me an odd sense of sadness.
Same when I see aircraft flying for the very last time..
Why would they scrap a freighter? That's only forty five years old but there's seventy year old boats on the lake
Because she hauled a lot of salt out of the Goderich Mines. She looks better on the outside than some others in Algoma fleet, but apparently, she's rusted out badly in the cargo holds.
salt does that to a vessel from the outside the vessel is young but the holds are probably looking pretty rough at this point
If we can scrap them why can't we build them in Ontario..there's alot of jobs and welll paid ones
Right!! Everything goes to China due to cheaper costs
Seems fairly young for a Great Lakes freighter. 50+ years isn't uncommon. Any to built a complete new ship from scratch...seems like it would be at least a little more cost effective to yank the entire pilothouse/engine and redo it. But I'm sure someone way smarter than me ran the finances. It would be fun however, to work on the ship breaking.
Ships that haul salt go quickly. There is no rebuilding them.
😢
If she could talk the stories she could tell.
How old is she?
45 years old
It's a Shame it Has To Be Destroyed After So Many years Of Service
She couldn't have been that old.
Really sad