The Long History of Sonic Prototypes/Unused Content

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    Music used:
    Egg Fleet - Sonic Heroes
    Mumbos Mountain - Banjo-Kazooie
    Scrap Brain Zone - Sonic 1
    The Final Decisive Battle - Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2: Raidou vs. King Abaddon
    Kitsch - Tekken 4
    Heaven - Persona 4
    Sizzle Dizzle - Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit
    Angel Island Zone - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    Breaking the Limit - Dragon Ball Z Budokai
    We're Robots - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    Daybreak Battle - Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3
    Final Haunt - Shadow The Hedgehog
    Open Your Heart (Demo Version) - Sonic Adventure
    Open Your Heart - Sonic Adventure
    Unknown From M.E - Sonic Adventure 2
    Kill La Kill OST Final Boss Theme - Triple-Q
    City Escape (Prototype) - Sonic Adventure 2
    City Escape Act 1 - Sonic Generations
    Sonic Heroes (No Gtr Mix) - Sonic Gems Collection
    Ice Cap - Tee Lopes
    Open Wings - Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2
    Highs - GenesisKeys (Please go check them out their music is fire)
    I Am All of Me - Shadow The Hedgehog
    Shadow World - Persona 4
    Blue Nun - GenesisKeys
    His World (E3 2006 Version) - Sonic 06
    Id (Purpose) - Fire Emblem: Awakening
    Lost Courage Remix - Cxldr3
    Kama Palace - Persona 1 PSP
    Lost Impact - Shadow The Hedgehog
    Black Blaze Hunter - Super Robot Wars OG
    For Buddy - Yakuza 0
    King's Uneasiness - Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
    Fist Bump (SXSW Version) - Sonic Forces
    Heartless Colleague - Sonic Adventure
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  • @MSCModernSonicChannel
    @MSCModernSonicChannel  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Hello everyone, thank you all for watching this video! I just wanted to let everyone know that I've made a new Discord server!
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    • @PacTheYoutuber
      @PacTheYoutuber 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you forogt about sonic blast and 3d

    • @JamesRoblox440
      @JamesRoblox440 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish they removed the sonic 2 movements today and replace it with the nick arcade sortie version because it’s cool how he moves like a real person and stopes and blinkcs

  • @piranhalettuce
    @piranhalettuce ปีที่แล้ว +471

    8:54 Actually Genocide City was a more mechanical based level than a level about genocide, it was later renamed to Cyber City which is way more fitting. My guess is they thought Genocide sounded cool but they later found out what it means and they changed it.

    • @alieneko_nyo
      @alieneko_nyo ปีที่แล้ว +85

      That's actually what happened xD
      Since the main Sonic Team was.. from Japan, they didn't know *that* much english and when they discover what genocide meant they changed it to Cyber City, kinda funny ngl

    • @j.jolidier1671
      @j.jolidier1671 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I agree with you because in Sonic origins but I was in the art I could see a scrap level called Cyber City on my Xbox

    • @chaosspider5765
      @chaosspider5765 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i heard somewhere that genocide city was repurposed into Metropolis Zone Act 3, which is why that it's the only zone in Sonic 2 with 3 acts

    • @maltheperson
      @maltheperson ปีที่แล้ว +17

      them: ooo genocide sounds like a good name
      OH WAIT REMOVE THAT NAME IT MEANS SOMETHING ELSE-

    • @Liftinn
      @Liftinn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alieneko_nyo this is true

  • @cisco1655
    @cisco1655 ปีที่แล้ว +861

    you forgot to mention in sa2's beta build if you beat it, a fading picture of maria with black eyes will permenantly appear throughout the whole game

    • @MSCModernSonicChannel
      @MSCModernSonicChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +247

      damn you right 🤦‍♀️

    • @FlipeTheBased
      @FlipeTheBased ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Wait what.

    • @fawkesthefox912
      @fawkesthefox912 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Source?

    • @FlipeTheBased
      @FlipeTheBased ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@fawkesthefox912 any of these Sonic Adventure 2 Maria's Revenge creepypasta videos or creepypasta wiki pages lmao

    • @piranhalettuce
      @piranhalettuce ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@FlipeTheBased what are you even talking about?

  • @Nomar2007_NWDE_WRESTLING
    @Nomar2007_NWDE_WRESTLING ปีที่แล้ว +42

    11:01 The reason why the Goal sign says "You Say!" is because this early build was shown at the "Yuusei Sega World" Event in Tokyo, Japan in December 6th 1992

    • @E2ForLife
      @E2ForLife ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So was you say was give your opinion

    • @sukkin3567
      @sukkin3567 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@E2ForLife "you say" is a pun with "yuusei"

  • @THEMIMIK
    @THEMIMIK ปีที่แล้ว +21

    sonic and shadow screaming in sonic adventure 2 is fucking terrifying and i absolutely love it 💀

  • @RoseSupreme
    @RoseSupreme ปีที่แล้ว +127

    For Sonic Generations, you forgot to mention that in the 3DS version, the Big Arms fight had a remix of Doomsday Zone, but was replaced with a remix of the proper song. And there are no traces of this song's existence in the files, only in a video of early gameplay.

    • @MSCModernSonicChannel
      @MSCModernSonicChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oh? 👀

    • @RoseSupreme
      @RoseSupreme ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MSCModernSonicChannel Right here for your convenience.
      th-cam.com/video/hcXWMurAdls/w-d-xo.html

    • @kimwatson2676
      @kimwatson2676 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the big arms is later used for the final boss of the good and best endings of sonic.exe nightmare beginning

    • @Floof1996
      @Floof1996 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Is there a link for the song?

    • @pvzmariosonica8fan
      @pvzmariosonica8fan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@MSCModernSonicChannel 👀👀👀👀👀

  • @tatertot64
    @tatertot64 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Gotta say, hearing Johnny Gioeli scat the vocal melody for the Sonic Heroes theme always cements to me how talented he is.

    • @iMernerner
      @iMernerner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He's been singing for his whole life and he was really good at it and still nailing it. Even in 2003, he was already had over 10 years of experience as professional singer with few bands!

    • @Mazgid
      @Mazgid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually it sounds better than final song. No bating, I hear that's unfinished, yet the motive and structure is much more interesting

  • @HyperStormH
    @HyperStormH ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Pretty good video, though there are some things you got wrong here (that I found):
    1) "Needlemouse" is actually a mistranslation. It was really called "Mr Hedgehog".
    2) I have no idea where you got 2 and CD being one game from. They were developed at the same time, and some of the concepts used in CD were meant to be in 2, but they were never "one game." Maybe you got that mixed up with Sonic 3 & Knuckles' development timeline?
    3) Simon Wai wasn't the first to leak the SW build online - he found it on a Neocities site and simply brought it to the attention of the western Sonic fanbase.
    4) Dust Hill WASN'T the name of the scrapped desert level - it was just an early name for Mystic Cave. The desert level was most likely called Sand Shower Zone, based on some concept art.
    5) "Genocide City" was simply a misunderstanding due to language barriers. The zone was later renamed Cyber City before it was scrapped.
    That's really all I found since I'm only REALLY familiar with the classics.

    • @jaydenbrownman4181
      @jaydenbrownman4181 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      does mystic cave look like a fucking dusty hill to you

    • @ajaxmaxbitch
      @ajaxmaxbitch ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@jaydenbrownman4181 it's a fucking cave dude

    • @jaydenbrownman4181
      @jaydenbrownman4181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ajaxmaxbitch thats what i said tho

    • @ajaxmaxbitch
      @ajaxmaxbitch ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jaydenbrownman4181 I was referencing Cyber shell because you were to

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How on Earth is Dust Hill an early name for Mystic Cave? Neither "dust" nor "hill" describe anything in the Mystic Cave Zone we know.

  • @maxywolf191
    @maxywolf191 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    29:55 Gotta give the band props for letting that one kid with the flute partake in making the song

  • @chaosspider5765
    @chaosspider5765 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    There's a pretty big bit of Shadow The Hedgehog that was cut. So, originally, SEGA wanted to use 2 songs from a very obscure band called Sins Of A Divine Mother (they're not even on Spotify OR TH-cam, and some of their tracks are completely lost), as well as a song by Magna-Fi. Magna-Fi's song was called Who I Am, and was originally intended to be the main theme and final boss theme of the game, which may explain why Shadow says "This is who I am" in each of the endings. The other two songs, the ones by Sins Of A Divine Mother, are called All Of Me and Broken. Broken was going to be the Neutral Hero theme, while All Of Me would've been the Neutral Dark theme. Jun Senoue and the band were all in agreement to use the songs, except for their singer, who they couldn't contact in time for the game, hence Sins Of A Divine Mother's tracks went unused. Magna-Fi felt that their song, Who I Am, had more potential than just being stuck to a video game, and so they declined the offer. However, they still publically released a new, higher quality, re-recorded version with their album Versechoruskillme. Hence, this song was also cut. The three songs were still all released with an album called "Lost And Found: Shadow The Hedgehog Vocal Trax", which also included I Am... All Of Me, Almost Dead, Waking Up, E.G.G.M.A.N. Doc. Robeatnix Mix, Chosen One, All Hail Shadow and Never Turn Back. The album was released by SEGA officially, but this isn't on Spotify, or TH-cam or any major streaming sites either.

  • @NintendanGX
    @NintendanGX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Mr Needlemouse is a common misconception. The Japanese refer to hedgehogs has "Harinezumi", and while yes, the literal translation is needle (hari) mouse (nezumi), it's completely missing the point. Needlemouse was not at all what Yuji Naka or Naoto Oshima referred to the character as, and Yuji Naka himself clarified as much. It was always Mr Hedgehog.

  • @MarioSpivey
    @MarioSpivey ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This was a great video and you did a good look through of the Unused content. Although If i recall correctly SA3 and the Adventure Remakes were just Rumors made up by Zippo (someone who's known in the Fandom for making up fake Sonic Leaks) to get others more mad at Forces, Rise of Lyric, and even Sega for the reasons we don't have those games.

    • @MSCModernSonicChannel
      @MSCModernSonicChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      zippo and his shenanigans again lol

    • @shyguy85
      @shyguy85 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      True but I'm sure those things were thought about or even planned at some point in sonics history

    • @MarioSpivey
      @MarioSpivey ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@shyguy85 Most likely yeah

  • @snac4439
    @snac4439 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    8:42 actually no, desert dazzle was supposed to be it's own thing for cd 2011
    it takes a bit of inspiration from dust hill but it's a completely different stage (which also later got repurposed for mania)
    Also, minor nitpick, Dust hill is actually mystic cave
    The desert level which was meant for sonic 2 is actually called Sand Shower

    • @YeomasBros.2008
      @YeomasBros.2008 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well you're mostly right but i know that you're lying about Dust Hill Zone being named Sand Shower Zone

    • @snac4439
      @snac4439 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YeomasBros.2008 nah it's been confirmed a while ago, thanks to concept art being published on the internet.

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@snac4439link?

    • @arthBou
      @arthBou 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      dust hill was meant to be a variant of green hill, does mystic cave look dusty or like a hill?

  • @TheZeroNeonix
    @TheZeroNeonix ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I think that suggestion of multiple endings in Sonic 06 was just a misunderstanding. I think the achievement was supposed to be for beating the "hidden" final story. In other words, you complete the stories of Sonic, Shadow, and Silver, and then complete the final story.

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would agree with that. It's pretty clear that the achievement descriptions are some pretty dodgy-arse Engrish...some of the most amusingly bad Engrish I've ever seen actually. It would be in vain trying to interpret any potential unused ideas from the achievements.

  • @SamuelSonicYt
    @SamuelSonicYt ปีที่แล้ว +167

    0:29 Sonic The Hedgehog (1991)
    3:42 Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (1992)
    9:22 Sonic CD (1993)
    13:28 Sonic The Hedgehog 3 (1994)
    17:17 Sonic Crackers (1995)
    17:45 Sonic X-Treme (1996)
    18:41 Sonic Adventure (1998)
    26:18 Sonic Adventure 2 (2001)
    32:50 Sonic Heroes (2003)
    38:41 Sonic Extreme
    39:31 Shadow The Hedgehog (2005)
    40:49 Sonic The Shadow World
    41:35 Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 (2006)
    46:22 Sonic The Hedgehog: Awakening (2006-2009)
    47:11 / 47:53 Sonic Adventure 3 (2007-2017)
    47:53 / 47:11 Sonic Unleashed (2008)
    51:04 Sonic Colors (2010)
    52:30 Sonic Generations (2011)
    55:23 Sonic Dimensions (2012)
    57:15 Sonic Mania (2017)
    59:28 Sonic Forces (2017)
    1:04:03 Sonic Speed Simulator (2022)
    1:20:04 Sonic Frontiers (2022)
    If i missed any, just tell me!

    • @FunnyParadox
      @FunnyParadox ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wait is that normal that the two last one doesn't work ? he cutted them after the video's release or it's just a troll lol

    • @SamuelSonicYt
      @SamuelSonicYt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FunnyParadox bro ofc SSS & Sonic Frontiers aren't here

    • @SamuelSonicYt
      @SamuelSonicYt ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FunnyParadox it's just a thing i wanted but was not added since that's the first time i watch him.

    • @tlg1310
      @tlg1310 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      47:26 Shadow Dabs as he rail grinds

    • @perryorbit5304
      @perryorbit5304 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tlg1310 nice

  • @PercyPanleo
    @PercyPanleo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:17 We still don't have a build with this level, but we at least know two names for the zone that were considered, being Ridicule Root and Dubious Depths

  • @cheetodoesyourmom9889
    @cheetodoesyourmom9889 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    54:21 dementia be like

  • @fabionoronhazampieri7639
    @fabionoronhazampieri7639 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    37:51 sonic, shadow and espio are done with life

  • @drmariojonathan
    @drmariojonathan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looks like a lot of hard work and research went into this doc. Nice work!

  • @LHGeee
    @LHGeee ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I absolutely love stuff like this and you did a really good job talking about everything in a clear and interesting way :)

  • @ritaandrunt5767
    @ritaandrunt5767 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for covering the various prototypes of the classic sonic games and also some prototype versions of the modern sonic games as well

  • @voidanimates
    @voidanimates 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    12:46 I have guesses to what the s monitors would be used for, 1 would be to help the devs test the time travel mechanic, hence why it was removed. Or 2, to be a hard-to-find monitor that helps you time travel.
    Invincibility would be to help the devs not get hurt by enemies in time travel, the speedshoes helping them go fast enough.

  • @joshuashaw6105
    @joshuashaw6105 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To be fair, that's what the Chao sound like in the Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure 1 period.
    That "Shadow" concept art that looks like Blaze, is actually just Blaze. It was her concept art before they settled on her final design.
    Also, Shadow the Hedgehog was made because while recovering from Heroes' development, Iizuka spent his time playing Ratchet and Clank and Jak 2, and wanted a game to appeal more to those audiences. Not the Call of Duty crowd. Call of Duty hadn't even gotten popular in the mainstream at that point. Halo was the main shooter at that point in time. The original Sonic audience by that point was either in their early 20s or mid-late teens, so they wanted a Sonic game that grew along with that audience. Bad idea, I know. But still.

  • @yousefslimani99
    @yousefslimani99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading this videos I really love watching sonic cut content videos!

  • @wessquiid
    @wessquiid ปีที่แล้ว +24

    0:48 Sonic wasn't actually called Mr. Needlemouse in development, he was called Mr. Hedgehog

    • @WheelTMA
      @WheelTMA ปีที่แล้ว +7

      that's a mistake most people make.

    • @Jekuma
      @Jekuma ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, it's more complicated. "Needlemouse" is a very direct translation of the Japanese word for hedgehogs 針鼠 (harinezumi). Even though Oshima's concept art for Sonic rendered it in katakana.
      針 can translate to "pin" or "needle" and 鼠 refers to mice. Mr. Needlemouse is just a very direct translation of the kanji for their word for hedgehog, so in a twisted way, it's correct sure. But nobody who is Japanese (or knows Japanese) will read it as "needlemouse".

  • @PokechiYT
    @PokechiYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I find the beta/unfinished live and learn very interesting because whatever is replacing the vocals does not match up with the final version. I find that really interesting! Was there different lyrics or was that what Sonic Team thought the lyrics would be???

  • @0dayrepairs
    @0dayrepairs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo, is that the Triple-Q mashup of Kill la Kill and Live & Learn in the background of the SA2 footage? What a banger! Glad to see you're a fellow man of culture

  • @lqu
    @lqu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    54:21 Felt like I was having a stroke. Surprised that made it to the final video.

  • @mariapocalypse6314
    @mariapocalypse6314 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    To add another dimension to the Sonic 2/Sonic CD thing, I know Sonic 2 for Master System was also originally just... Sonic 2, but on Master System. But then, like CD, it eventually became its own thing. You even have a version of the CD opening tune as the Green Hill theme. So I wonder if it was a snapshot of what "Sonic 2" may have looked like at a different point in time.

  • @MatthewCobalt
    @MatthewCobalt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:58 I know that the video is more on the information rather than presentation, but man have I never hear a person flatly fail at pronouncing "Arcade" so hard in my life.

  • @eeboiee
    @eeboiee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I assume the reason why it plays that sped up version of Final Zone in Hidden Palace is because it was supposed to be another track that played, maybe even a sound effect for some sort of transition because the stage was supposed to be encountered when collecting chaos emeralds.

  • @earthwormjim91
    @earthwormjim91 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well made video but hoooooly shit the amount of incorrect information in it is almost stunning

  • @SallyPuppy123456
    @SallyPuppy123456 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hey man. For someone with a smaller following and (I assume?) less experience than other sonictubers on the platform you do a surprisingly good job at keeping it interesting. (probably just my sonictism speaking) I noticed flaws in the delivery and editing at times in the video, but even despite that it never really took me out of it. I've never really been able to make more entertaining content like that despite my own skills and experience with editing, content creation and the like (I just don't really have the charisma or creativity for it) so it personally impresses me a lot to see stuff like this. Good shit man, you got a sub from me. (Also, if you ever need help or even just advice with editing or anything else as well, I'd be glad to help you out or contribute, otherwise, just keep doing what you do best.)

  • @guffingtonreal
    @guffingtonreal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's funny that Secret Rings ended up far better than '06 considering its development.

  • @sunsetpov824
    @sunsetpov824 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Sonic and tails are sleeping together" EXCUSE ME???? 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @jonicschannel5008
    @jonicschannel5008 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:05 it's in 2 player because you hit b+start.

  • @TheZeroNeonix
    @TheZeroNeonix ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Interesting. I hadn't heard of Sonic Dimensions, but I remember having a dream with Sonics from different dimensions joining forces. They each had different colors and personalities. The only other detail I remember from my dream, though, was that the green Sonic refused the offer of a chili dog, because he was a vegetarian. Blue Sonic was very shook by that.

  • @Rockman_CDH
    @Rockman_CDH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, you’ve come a long way! Awesome video

  • @chaoticmemories
    @chaoticmemories 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    40:22 I need to thank this bit for making me discover such a cool band

  • @humanityisnotbeautiful1941
    @humanityisnotbeautiful1941 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Since this is like the only video I've ever seen talking about the development of Shadow the Hedgehog, I do know that apparently, there's some build of the game out there using the Adventure Era voice cast instead of the ones from Sonic X. I vaguely remember some video mentioning a tweet by youtuber BalenaProductions, which mentioned how they played an early demo of Shadow at a gaming convention, and it still used the Adventure cast reprising their roles. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find that tweet, or the video it was in, so that may just be total bullshit though. Not sure.

  • @SireForseti
    @SireForseti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    instantly subbed when I heard the Genesiskeys music :)

  • @user-uf3rj9wz4h
    @user-uf3rj9wz4h 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i watched this 2 times and this was great from you

  • @deadkatasumi
    @deadkatasumi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that you added the heaven theme from persona 4

  • @arbustin5646
    @arbustin5646 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    extremely underrated, awesome video my guy

  • @DanknDerpyGamer
    @DanknDerpyGamer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like you might be holding down B when you entered the stages on the Nick Arcade proto - where doing so will enter a split screen mode if the level has no level.
    Interestingly, you can do this in stages where one act has no water, and the other does - or one stage has no water, and the next stage does, which corrupts the hell out of the graphics when you go from the waterless 2P mode level to the water filled stage or act.
    This doesn't appear to be fully fixed until ... IDK if it was the Wai proto, or the build after the Wai proto. It is interesting. I've always wanted to do a video comparing the evolution of 2P mode in Sonic 2.

  • @Esgoneverevers
    @Esgoneverevers ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video man, great work!

  • @jadethehedgehogYT
    @jadethehedgehogYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    31:01 Dat scream tho! 😂😂😂
    32:33 Sonic swearing through the city
    38:06 Who voiced Metal Sonic?
    38:10 Metal sonic calm down
    1:02:14 Who was the narrator voice

  • @GODISGRACIOUS05
    @GODISGRACIOUS05 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow nice editing for the video and in it msc

  • @kargaroc386
    @kargaroc386 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The SA autodemo has files for the older design of windy valley, which was a *big* deal when it was first found.
    Also there's a bunch of prototypes for the game gear/master system games.

  • @guffingtonreal
    @guffingtonreal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: Time Break is a power up returning from Secret Rings. Speed Break was always a version of boosting.

  • @JamesaSonicfan1457
    @JamesaSonicfan1457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    31:01 straight up nightmare fuel...💀☠️

  • @TheZeroNeonix
    @TheZeroNeonix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the first time I saw news about Sonic Adventure in a magazine. I thought it looked weird, because Sonic was purple. But that probably was something funky going on with the print.

  • @pixel6894
    @pixel6894 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job with this video overall but I feel you could have redone some line reads and cut some lines better. Overall really enjoyed the video though keep up the good work!

  • @NewYorkCityRat
    @NewYorkCityRat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    54:22 bro had to make sure we knew twice 💀💀

  • @kimi1984
    @kimi1984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In sonic 3 you can glitch the miniboss to play the S&K miniboss instead during Hydrocity zone.

  • @Dragokirbo
    @Dragokirbo ปีที่แล้ว

    40:49 It took me a second to understand why you put that song there lol

  • @Starkiller156
    @Starkiller156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video but wanted to ask if you're at least for a quick second video mention some of the stuff in the whitehead 2011 CD remaster? Also I thought it was worth mentioning about the sonic mars prototype.
    I feel like it's worth mentioning there was a concept map for the time travel mechanic in sonic 2 where past zones were revealed like Olympus etc also Neo green hill zone is just a remnant name of this time travel concept. Probably like a metalized version or basically be emerald hill's early name.

  • @SamuelSonicYt
    @SamuelSonicYt ปีที่แล้ว +11

    58:20 wow. That literally ended up as a mod to Sonic Mania (yes, they did it to all characters)

  • @olds86307
    @olds86307 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:00 you held b, which brings you to a test for what is ment to be the ending
    same goes for 2p mode in sonic 2 (holding b on level selec enables 2p mode)

  • @spiritpyros
    @spiritpyros ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok so i never expected anyone to use one of genesiskeys' songs at all that man is way to slept on

  • @oliviafrancis3389
    @oliviafrancis3389 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the sonic origins premium collection there's concept art of little planet from sonic cd and it shows 8 rounds, it shows the cut R2 level as an underground maze stage with fans

  • @eraser1103wastaken
    @eraser1103wastaken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:32 the blue ring box mightve been for the wobbly rings that appeared in sonic mania. The sound when you get it in mania is a scrapped sound from sonic CD which couldve been used for the powerup, that explains that this could be a pretty early prototype.

  • @tygical
    @tygical ปีที่แล้ว +6

    31:48 LMFAOOOOOOOO THAT CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD I BURSTED OUT LAUGHING FOR LIKE 5 MINUTES STRAIGHT

  • @Ekraelum
    @Ekraelum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is *really* cool. I'll never get over the fact that Sonic 06 was sold incomplete lmao

  • @rainbowdashisawesome1120
    @rainbowdashisawesome1120 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    R2 was found out to be named Dubious Depths.

  • @Damian-cilr1
    @Damian-cilr1 ปีที่แล้ว

    r2 in sonic cd had some new stuff found,new concept art released in sonic origins that showed that it indeed was fairly similar to marble zone.1 act outside,2nd act inside
    music was found too,also 2 names.dubious depths and ridicule root

  • @lynxzanimated
    @lynxzanimated 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video bro.

  • @Ardhamon5000
    @Ardhamon5000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. I enjoyed watching this alot

  • @TheDocRobot
    @TheDocRobot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, so.. the second sonic cd prototypes title theme went on to by used in "Ultimate Classic Sonic Scene Creator" on scratch, where it was used as the title theme of that game

  • @Nathanlee63
    @Nathanlee63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus chirst your thumbnails is got damn terrified. My legs I shaking

  • @vins2030
    @vins2030 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the most interesting 1 hour video I ever watched.

  • @Heazytoohot
    @Heazytoohot ปีที่แล้ว

    Tekken 4 and tenkaichi music? You're the goat

  • @SamuelSonicYt
    @SamuelSonicYt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    58:43 that was actually used, it's in Stardust Speedway in the BG after beating the lil mecha sonic robots
    Edit: nvm it was a tower

  • @sobble_gaming101
    @sobble_gaming101 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching TV, and I saw the thumbnail and literally spindashed out my room, down the stairs and into the kitchen to get some water

  • @guffitrash
    @guffitrash ปีที่แล้ว

    The City Escape beta theme reminds me of how the credits themes for American Dad! and Family Guy is just the intro's instrumental but with extra instrumentations to replace the vocals.

  • @acrusader9834
    @acrusader9834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the unused voice clips in sonic CD they actually wind up using the one where he says “Yeah!” In the mobile port and in origins he says it when he gets a Live box

  • @THEMIMIK
    @THEMIMIK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Genocide City Zone”
    as cool as that sounds, thats like if a scrapped kingdom in mario odessy was found and named “Suicide Kingdom”.

  • @Nick-Wickerbeast
    @Nick-Wickerbeast 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:27 - Literally did not know this before and I yelled: “I’m sorry, what?!”. I’m pretty sure I woke up my sister…

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shadow embodies gerald's wish as during the villain route in shadow's own game
    Shadow embodies maria's wish during the hero route in his own game.
    What is among shadow's first words to doctor eggman "I will grant you one wish."
    Shadow has been a vessel for other's wishes until he outright rejects it and breaks through literal depression and his dad coming back with the milk after being an evil alien overlord and seeing one person get murdered as his only memory.
    The game may be flawed but it has some unique things to take away from it tbh if it was like jak 2 it prolly could have sold better and been a better game, by being mature not as in violence or swear words no. As in delve into the psychological issues that make up shadow deeply and tell a deeply emotional story about someone with trauma.
    Also a military weapon always knows how to use guns if they dont they aren't a good military.

  • @peterpumkineater69346
    @peterpumkineater69346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the topic of SA3, Shadow the Hedgehog's working title was Sonic Adventure 3: Shadow the Hedgehog

  • @harutoesyt
    @harutoesyt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Did you know Sonic Adventure was originally developed on the Saturn?

    • @MSCModernSonicChannel
      @MSCModernSonicChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I said that in the video

    • @harutoesyt
      @harutoesyt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MSCModernSonicChannel timestamp? And if you did I'm ass

    • @MSCModernSonicChannel
      @MSCModernSonicChannel  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harutoesyt 20:23

    • @harutoesyt
      @harutoesyt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MSCModernSonicChannel shit I guess that counts my fault

    • @SamuelSonicYt
      @SamuelSonicYt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harutoesyt but he didn't mention that Saturn Sonic Adventure was made in a project named "Project Sonic"

  • @videotape2959
    @videotape2959 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:26 The level was shown in gaming magazines back in the day. Besides, the first prototype that became widely known to the community was the "Simon Wai" one, not this "Nick Arcade" build that was shared on the internet later on in 2006.

  • @silveramyknux241
    @silveramyknux241 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sonic and Shadow’s extra screams were used as the Biolizard’s cry apparently.
    Probably to symbolize how Shadow and Sonic are eaquel or something.

  • @GavinArtster
    @GavinArtster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The game split into 2 again.
    Sonic 3: AAAA-

  • @ThatLutherFan
    @ThatLutherFan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the "Mr. Needlemouse is a mistranslation of "Mr. Hedgehog"

  • @InitialAA
    @InitialAA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should have mentioned the other beta classic stuff besides Hidden Palace that returned in the mobile remakes, such as the Goggles Monitor, Wrecking Ball, Splats and many other beta badniks and objects that made it into debug modes of either games.

  • @restlesss0ul900
    @restlesss0ul900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this interesting video.

  • @Heazytoohot
    @Heazytoohot ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the tekken 4 music 👀

  • @RyneMcKinney
    @RyneMcKinney 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sonic 06's development and prototypes is my biggest fascination in the world of lost media. I want so desperately for one of the builds to be leaked so we can see early ideas for the story, day night cycle, and more that got scrapped because of it's rushed release

  • @superdean9966
    @superdean9966 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EXTREMLEY INACURATE.

  • @Super_Sonic_64
    @Super_Sonic_64 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sonic CD beta players: "listen to this time travel sound, it's not that bad!"
    People who played the final ver. Of SCD: "AW HEEEELL NAAAHAAAAAWWWW"

  • @huskey1062
    @huskey1062 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    40:43 46:21 gotta give props to the music selection

  • @LancerAccelerant
    @LancerAccelerant ปีที่แล้ว

    Yuji Uekawa never stopped making Sonic art

  • @sirletonvladiton2304
    @sirletonvladiton2304 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, R2 was originally going to Relic Ruins/Dubious Depths for Sonic CD, but now they scrapped/removed or cut out of nowhere and didn't shown in game version on it. Same way was did in 2013, they showed something new and fresh, but they never shown in game, because developers was going to sometimes changed and overhauled for this R2. So they bring in Sonic Mania, which is called Miracle Saloon Zone.

  • @BobbyHillHyperTails18
    @BobbyHillHyperTails18 ปีที่แล้ว

    the frame drop for sonic adventure 2’s multiplayer is actually intended in the final version of the dreamcast release the frame rate is still halved only on the battle port is the multiplayer 60 fps

  • @lunareko
    @lunareko ปีที่แล้ว

    The rainbow waterfalls in the unknown zone for Sonic CD must've been for the good future, as rainbows are a little happy

  • @jonathanthomas9259
    @jonathanthomas9259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: Sonic 2’s wall knock back made it’s way in the 6th Generation version Sonic Unleashed. (By that I mean the Wii/PS2 version was secretly bought back in the scrap Sonic 2 beta feature.)

  • @k-leb4671
    @k-leb4671 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The editing in this video seems to be pretty off. A lot of your voice clips get cut off at the end, making everything feel a bit rushed. Plus, some of your lines even get repeated in this video, as if you forgot to cut out multiple takes of the same line. The video was enjoyable overall but I thought I'd point these out for the future.

  • @SONIC_OLR
    @SONIC_OLR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:04
    Sonic 3 and knuckles : AAAAAA
    Sonic 3 : what the he'll just happened
    Sonic and knuckles : I don't know

  • @Steve_1035
    @Steve_1035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic 2 Is The King Of Sonic Prototypes