@@4hater300 Here is how I think it works. Gas arrow, with corrosion, will break the armor of a mob. Then the toxic growth will be able to hit for more and apply a bigger poison. In game it states that armor is better at reducing, many, smaller hits. Toxic Growth is exactly that. I think it's better to break armor so that Toxic Growth does more damage. I could be wrong but this is what I think is happening.
@@Jelbishi I'm not entirely sure if it works that way. Gas arrow converts 100% of our phys damage to chaos dot as poison, and toxic growth stores it. I'm fairly certain it doesn't reconvert back to phys for the explosion, and since armour only reduces phys damage, this doesn't scale the damage taken. I think you realistically want to cut corrosion and for conc effect, as scaling the base poison damage with 40% more area damage will do significantly more
@@4hater300 I'm going to do some testing right now. I think you might be right. I think what I was reading in the tooltip was for the actual arrow portion of the ability. I realize now that I was using envenom in toxic growth when in reality it's not doing anything. I'll figure it out right now. *edit* nvm... It was doing something. Forgot snakebites had 20% chance to poison. I tested a lot. Hard when there is no boss that's always going to have the same mods... we need a target dummy haha I think I like the armour break. Even if all it does is allows me to run Scavenged Plating. Though, I gotta say. Juicing up Gas Arrow and using it as a primary damage source seems pretty good. Toxic Growth is looking pretty dull now that i've messed around a bit more.
Love your build! Im running 100% evasion gear, so im using herald of plague, instead of the armor buff, it got larger poison spread to enemies, so feel like it clears beter, and i also dont need the armor buff with pure evasion. On plague bearer, you can use expanse for larger AoE, and no penalty from cooldown. update; just got a perfect jeweler orb now, so i put Deadly poisons into gasarrow. for normal mapping i dont use the toxic growth much
Small tip for you: Drop the 8% slower aspd projectile damage node cluster and pick up the attack cluster near the skill speed cluster. It has 2% movespeed and 25% chance to maim on hit nodes, you lose a little bit of damage, but 2% movespeed is too good to pass up.
@zyxyx6754 Good idea. I did take those dmg nodes yesterday haha 😄 Keeping the proj node too cause I don't need that much atk speed. The char feels really good right now. Making small changes constantly!
I'm into T14-15 myself now! I was originally kind of excited by your shield swap tech, but I notice you using it a lot less, and tbh I'm not using it much either. Damage is high enough that just blasting seems to be more effective than swapping. Any new thoughts on this?
I ran the same jewels for each build. I got jewels that buffed duration and magnitude of poison/damaging ailments! There are other stats that are useful too such as some evasion, projectile damage, movement speed and other QoL things.
Jist for the monologue about avoiding reddit and do your own thing without the negativity is why i definitely subbed to you. Poe community has been toxic for awhile now and sometimes it helps to avoid what others say and do your own thing.
@Sejigonza_ I played a lot after the patch and the build is VERY strong still. I was able to go into a breach boss and destroy it relatively easy. I made a few more changes to the build that I will update in the build link shortly.
@@Sejigonza_ You're welcome :) The only thing I changed around, a little bit, is gems. So nothing major. But I think the gems I swapped around make the build more impactful.
@@brunoandreotti7727 Thanks! And you're welcome! I have a limited character limit in the change log section so I try to keep that info short and impactful. Mostly small changes to gems lately. Gear and skill tree is pretty much set in stone. Might change my amulets anoint but the 10% dmg from mana is actually still really strong. Not sure.
@@ruinking666 You're welcome 😀 This version of the build is WAY stronger. I also JUST added some weapon swap passives that aren't in the video but ARE in the pinned build link.
@@Jelbishi Thanks for your hard work I'm a new player of this game and you guide help me a lot just finish chapter 3 cruel today and it because of your guide.
I leveled completely as poison. I'm not really sure how lightning would be in comparison. I think either one works, just try to get some leveling uniques that are tailored to whatever choice you make.
for reference i just rerolled into a pathfinder a few days ago, poison felt really bad early game until I unlocked posion gas at level 22, so I highly recommend leveling as lightning until then. once you get gas and first ascendency poison felt insanely smooth the rest of the way through! hope it helps
@stefen777 that was my line of though as the 2 lightning skills you really use are lvl1 but the good poison is cloud so starting with no unique for either I think it should work just gota look at bathing for the tree to be ready to swap easily.
Nathan i have one question, why i cant put plague bearer in useful skill botton, i just have option for press right botton mouse for active, not for move to the keyboard skill.
@@WingsOfDomain It's for emergencies. You can swap your shield to block attacks and be more tanks in general. It's particularly useful if you get surrounded by enemies. I have a video that showcases the shield setup in much more detail. It's the tier 11 map + boss video where I go through it slowly and explain what's happening.
@@WingsOfDomain np! It's SUPER useful in T15 maps when some of the damage modifiers get hairy. But it's ACTIVE mitigation. In this video it was early morning and I wasn't so active at all 😆
UPDATED BUILD:
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Thanks Nathan is expectacular!!
can you go into a little more detail with the gem setup? I'm wondering specifically how corrosion works since our phys damage is converted to poison
@@4hater300 Here is how I think it works. Gas arrow, with corrosion, will break the armor of a mob. Then the toxic growth will be able to hit for more and apply a bigger poison.
In game it states that armor is better at reducing, many, smaller hits. Toxic Growth is exactly that.
I think it's better to break armor so that Toxic Growth does more damage.
I could be wrong but this is what I think is happening.
@@Jelbishi I'm not entirely sure if it works that way. Gas arrow converts 100% of our phys damage to chaos dot as poison, and toxic growth stores it. I'm fairly certain it doesn't reconvert back to phys for the explosion, and since armour only reduces phys damage, this doesn't scale the damage taken. I think you realistically want to cut corrosion and for conc effect, as scaling the base poison damage with 40% more area damage will do significantly more
@@4hater300 I'm going to do some testing right now. I think you might be right.
I think what I was reading in the tooltip was for the actual arrow portion of the ability. I realize now that I was using envenom in toxic growth when in reality it's not doing anything. I'll figure it out right now.
*edit* nvm... It was doing something. Forgot snakebites had 20% chance to poison.
I tested a lot. Hard when there is no boss that's always going to have the same mods... we need a target dummy haha
I think I like the armour break. Even if all it does is allows me to run Scavenged Plating. Though, I gotta say. Juicing up Gas Arrow and using it as a primary damage source seems pretty good. Toxic Growth is looking pretty dull now that i've messed around a bit more.
Appreciate you posting this and taking us through. Having a great time with the build.
Love your build! Im running 100% evasion gear, so im using herald of plague, instead of the armor buff, it got larger poison spread to enemies, so feel like it clears beter, and i also dont need the armor buff with pure evasion.
On plague bearer, you can use expanse for larger AoE, and no penalty from cooldown.
update; just got a perfect jeweler orb now, so i put Deadly poisons into gasarrow. for normal mapping i dont use the toxic growth much
Small tip for you: Drop the 8% slower aspd projectile damage node cluster and pick up the attack cluster near the skill speed cluster. It has 2% movespeed and 25% chance to maim on hit nodes, you lose a little bit of damage, but 2% movespeed is too good to pass up.
@zyxyx6754 Good idea. I did take those dmg nodes yesterday haha 😄
Keeping the proj node too cause I don't need that much atk speed. The char feels really good right now.
Making small changes constantly!
awesome
I'm into T14-15 myself now! I was originally kind of excited by your shield swap tech, but I notice you using it a lot less, and tbh I'm not using it much either. Damage is high enough that just blasting seems to be more effective than swapping. Any new thoughts on this?
I know you play concoction now, but do you remeber what jewels you ran in tree ?
And how do you get 90 spirit with ranger to run wind,withering,nuke ?
I ran the same jewels for each build. I got jewels that buffed duration and magnitude of poison/damaging ailments!
There are other stats that are useful too such as some evasion, projectile damage, movement speed and other QoL things.
i.imgur.com/4StxEQW.jpeg
actually here is a link with all my jewels so you can see for yourself :)
@@Jelbishi thank you so much !
@@Jelbishi dang! That is a lot of DMG I've been missing out on, will hunt the trade site for some of those👌
Jist for the monologue about avoiding reddit and do your own thing without the negativity is why i definitely subbed to you. Poe community has been toxic for awhile now and sometimes it helps to avoid what others say and do your own thing.
@thekvng201 Yes! I'm going SSF soon too 😄
Hey Nathan with the yesterday patch notes, you thinks the build change? is necesary one update?
@Sejigonza_ I played a lot after the patch and the build is VERY strong still. I was able to go into a breach boss and destroy it relatively easy.
I made a few more changes to the build that I will update in the build link shortly.
@@Jelbishi Thanks again for you time to answer!!!
@@Sejigonza_ You're welcome :)
The only thing I changed around, a little bit, is gems. So nothing major. But I think the gems I swapped around make the build more impactful.
@@Jelbishi Thank you for keeping a changelog in mobalycs, this is very helpful to know if the build is updated! Keep up the good work bro:)
@@brunoandreotti7727 Thanks! And you're welcome!
I have a limited character limit in the change log section so I try to keep that info short and impactful. Mostly small changes to gems lately. Gear and skill tree is pretty much set in stone. Might change my amulets anoint but the 10% dmg from mana is actually still really strong. Not sure.
Great as always. You should look into another poison build using Corpsewades. I have seen it being a big deal with the Witch ascendancies.
@Zasurein I saw a tiktok about those boots last night. Super cool stuff. Gas Arrow is a lot better though 😁
Thank you.
What is the current gas arrow DPS and poison damage per second?
Gas arrow (Poison Cloud) dps = 11,306
ty !@@Jelbishi
Thanks for the update!!
@@ruinking666 You're welcome 😀
This version of the build is WAY stronger. I also JUST added some weapon swap passives that aren't in the video but ARE in the pinned build link.
@@Jelbishi Thanks for your hard work I'm a new player of this game and you guide help me a lot just finish chapter 3 cruel today and it because of your guide.
@@ruinking666 Happy to help! Glad to hear you've enjoyed the game enough to finish :)
Hi Nathan, for the bow, you dont use #+ projectile skill? or Attack speed? why?, mana gain for skill is useful but some other?
nice vid and tactic! I like that you could go back in your vids while you lvl your ranger
Would you recommend leveling as poison or do lightning until ascension then focus more into poison.
I leveled completely as poison. I'm not really sure how lightning would be in comparison. I think either one works, just try to get some leveling uniques that are tailored to whatever choice you make.
for reference i just rerolled into a pathfinder a few days ago, poison felt really bad early game until I unlocked posion gas at level 22, so I highly recommend leveling as lightning until then.
once you get gas and first ascendency poison felt insanely smooth the rest of the way through! hope it helps
@stefen777 that was my line of though as the 2 lightning skills you really use are lvl1 but the good poison is cloud so starting with no unique for either I think it should work just gota look at bathing for the tree to be ready to swap easily.
Nathan i have one question, why i cant put plague bearer in useful skill botton, i just have option for press right botton mouse for active, not for move to the keyboard skill.
I'm not sure. I have the ability to put it wherever I want. That's strange. Sorry I can't help there.
Just assign it at the skill bars, don't try to drag it over.
@@PatriotAutoGlassCOvery useful anwers, thanks!
I don't understand how you are using the second weapon set. I never see you switch to it. Can somebody explain?
@@WingsOfDomain It's for emergencies. You can swap your shield to block attacks and be more tanks in general. It's particularly useful if you get surrounded by enemies.
I have a video that showcases the shield setup in much more detail. It's the tier 11 map + boss video where I go through it slowly and explain what's happening.
@@Jelbishi Oh I see it now, with the blasphemy setup and the weapon skill nodes. Thanks for explaining.
@@WingsOfDomain np! It's SUPER useful in T15 maps when some of the damage modifiers get hairy. But it's ACTIVE mitigation. In this video it was early morning and I wasn't so active at all 😆
any thought on the upcoming vine arrow nerf?
Nothing change, vine is not his dps skill here.
Are you still weapon swapping
i use my weapon swap all the time, yeah. makes me much more tanky
how to level this?