The Shadow Mage: A Bladesinger Wizard Twilight Domain Cleric Multiclass

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  • @zach8596
    @zach8596 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Shadow Spawn lasts 1 hour. If you expect trouble, just cast it outside of combat. Or take Meta Magic Initiate and double it to 2 hours with Extended Spell.

  • @augustus1138
    @augustus1138 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Perfect timing on this! We’re doing a “shadow” themed campaign soon. This is gonna SLAP!

  • @futurecaredesign
    @futurecaredesign ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Nah man, be a Shadar-Kai. You still get Elven Accuracy but also get a BA teleport that you can use after casting a spell. It also effectively gives you Barbarian Rage for a round.
    Lastly, the flavor is a much better fit to your character.

    • @alx9487
      @alx9487 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yup 100 times yep. its also better for the theme.

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Fair points!

    • @chrishicks1737
      @chrishicks1737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love this idea for Shadar-Kai. Might use it as my race next campaign

  • @thegunslinger8972
    @thegunslinger8972 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Finally, a build to hide my shame away

  • @mikedickens848
    @mikedickens848 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Badass idea. Every build is focused on the temp hp and cleansing affect. This is the first build I’ve seen that utilizes the forgotten dim light feature. Nicely done.

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I’m glad you appreciate it!

    • @carsonrush3352
      @carsonrush3352 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@DnD_Daily , could you do a video about the Fighter/ Sorcerer multiclass? Here's why I would recommend it...
      Fighter/ sorcerer is S-tier.
      I think the most slept on build is the fighter/ sorcerer build. It makes a remarkable gish, probably THE BEST GISH IN THE GAME. It's a great way to implement an arcane variant of the paladin. Action surge and quicken spell make it so that you almost always have the ability to cast level 1-9 spells during combat. This is your replacement for smite, and it has WAY more flavor. Use booming blade and greenflame blade to give you the damage of extra attack without needing the feature. Use GFB in crowds, and use BB in single combat and step back to force a brute to proc the damage (your AC will be fine with this). Quicken spell, is your bread and butter due to the boost in actioneconomy.
      The build comes online at level 5 using custom lineage (meta magic adept) fighter 2 / sorcerer 2/ hexblade 1. If you don't want hexblade, this also does well if it's built like a paladin. The next levels are s3, f3, s5, f5, s7, f7, s9, f10. And you've essentially created an arcane version of the paladin that can do some crazy crap. If you want a bit more fuel for casting, go straight from f3/s3 to f3/ s7, and then alternate 2 levels of fighter and sorcerer at a time, stopping fighter at level 7, with a final goal of f7/ s12/ w1.
      You can buff and attack on the first turn. You can set up a spell that wrecks enemies with your bonus action. Use the war magic feat to get more uses out of booming blade. Set up a hazard, and then pull and push enemies into it with lightning lure, thunderwave, and pulse wave.
      For subclasses, avoid the 3 fighter subclasses that use intelligence. The rest is dealer's choice. Rune knight, cavalier, and battle master can all do nasty stuff with this build with minimal usage of your bonus action. Draconic sorcerer is sturdy, divine soul brings the smite online, storm soul grants some great mobility, but any sorcerer works great for this build. Wild magic is always hilarious, and would add even more magical madness to this build.
      I would say that your best bets are rune knight and battle master. The rune knight grants excellent flavor opportunities as you manifest as a monstrous example of your sorcerous origin. The rune knight brings more magic into the mix, whereas the battle master brings more martial with it, especially using maneuvers like precision strike to boost the accuracy of your scagtrips.

  • @LordNerfherder
    @LordNerfherder ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have played a twilight cleric bladesinger and it was very powerful.
    Another fun one: Gloomstalker 3, twilight cleric dip, fighter 11++ is lots of fun. Or just more cleric. A lot of fun combinations around that. More caster levels for spell slots or more fighter for action surge and extra extra attacks. Martial nova character.

  • @JugglingAddict
    @JugglingAddict ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not a bladesinger, but on the theme of hiding in the shadows/darkness. Goblin (get that bonus action hide|) 5 levels of gloomstalker, 2 lvls of twilight and 7 lvls of (technically any warlock but I like the contradiction) celestial warlock (chain pact if we take 5 gloomstalker, blade pact if we only take 3 in gloomstalker). Making you a being of light and darkness. Especially because Shadow of Moil turns dim light into darkness and gloomstalker makes you invisible in darkness.
    You can finish out in either warlock or cleric.

    • @SIZModig
      @SIZModig ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope D&D Daily makes a video of that

    • @JugglingAddict
      @JugglingAddict ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SIZModig This seems like the kind of build he might make right? I'd like to see it too. 😆😆😁

  • @CivilWarMan
    @CivilWarMan ปีที่แล้ว +18

    While this is not a power build by any means, I feel like 6-8 levels of Twilight Cleric really adds some spice to a Way of Mercy Monk concept I've had. The concept is Custom Lineage/Variant Human with Shadow Touched, with the character being a traveling doctor and leaning into the old Plague Doctor motif. They were infected with a plague that originated from the Shadowfell, and they wrap up their body and wear a mask to avoid infecting others as they travel the countryside in search of a cure. Way of Mercy really gives a cool feel to this character by allowing them to harm or heal people by merely touching them, and the Shadow Touched feat and Twilight Cleric levels makes it feel like the shadow energies are giving them otherworldly powers even as it eats away at their body.

    • @PaintballaJkilla
      @PaintballaJkilla ปีที่แล้ว +3

      love this concept, sounds soo dope. this sorta sounds close to my grave cleric 6/ WoMM14 . He's more a sentinel guardian of death, and prevents those who go to early with the Grave features and offers quick mercy to those who's time has come. his mask is permanently on due to an back ground incident, and wields 2 sickles/hand scythes.
      Sounds like they definitely could be cohorts lol

  • @Mario.1997
    @Mario.1997 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you're somehow able to get armor shadows from the eldridge adapt feat it would be so spot-on for the flavor of the build

  • @SnipeyDaSniper
    @SnipeyDaSniper ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I usually don't like using overtuned classes in my builds, so I combined it with bladesinger.
    I jest, of course, and this build sounds so thematic and so fun

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know! I’m ashamed :P

    • @alx9487
      @alx9487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bladesinger falls off compared to other wizard classes towards mid teen levels. This build is not strong end game, but its full of lots of flavor, so points for style

    • @SnipeyDaSniper
      @SnipeyDaSniper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alx9487 I'd love to see the stats on what percentage of parties actually get to mid-teen or late game levels, though.

    • @PaintballaJkilla
      @PaintballaJkilla ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SnipeyDaSniper its dreadfully low. most campaigns if they go from 1 end around lvl 13 or so if not before. Tier 4 play is seldom seen wgich is a real shame.
      think most tables skip lvls 1 and 2 as there isnt much there so 10 lvls of play from 3-13. or speed run it so by end of session 2 your lvl 3.

  • @pandoraeeris7860
    @pandoraeeris7860 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The dim light thing would be really cool with the One With Shadows Invocation.

  • @CrashCraftLabs
    @CrashCraftLabs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice, good way to make shadow blade pop

  • @Mario.1997
    @Mario.1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This build fits well flavor-wise with the fey of the Unseelie court

  • @collinhestand2201
    @collinhestand2201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This build is so funny to me since I've been doing a very similar build in a campaign I'm in, been going for almost a year now, it's Arcane Trickster-Rogue/Twilight-Cleric with a Hexblood/Owlin as my race

  • @Hexenbane247
    @Hexenbane247 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not gonna lie. I don’t enjoy most of the dnd TH-camrs out there. You however do a great job on your videos. Thank you for all of your creative ideas and hard work!

  • @Samuel_Kabel
    @Samuel_Kabel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This whole Twilight dim light thing (not just you, I've a few others use it) reminds of when people like d4 used Custom Lineage and still took race-exclusive feats.

  • @scrubnub6203
    @scrubnub6203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! One thing to point out though is that shadowblade actually scales at odd levels even though it doesn't seem like it should.

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for pointing that out! Super weird!

    • @scrubnub6203
      @scrubnub6203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DnD_Daily Yeah it is strange, I think it's one of the only second lvl spells to scale like that, but on the bright side that makes it a really good third lvl cast if you are fighting a single enemy. In terms of single target damage it's better than fireball if you have extra attack.

  • @leonardocarvalho9411
    @leonardocarvalho9411 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Keep up the good work

  • @SIZModig
    @SIZModig ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know what, I will in fact make such an NPC

  • @Mario.1997
    @Mario.1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If your DM allows Ravnica content then you could lean into the summoner with the Gruul Anarch background because it gives you the conjure animals spell.

  • @MenschWerdeWesentlich
    @MenschWerdeWesentlich 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was my first build as a new player in 5e. One of my favorites to date.
    Shadar-Kai though.
    My generous GM also gave me a cloak if the bat (reflavoured for the raven queen).
    Walking is for peasants or daylight.
    In hindsight I felt a bit bad for stumbling upon such an over-tuned combo.
    Although I do have fond memories of basically singlehandedly giant aping the BBEG to death.

  • @ryan76043
    @ryan76043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having the build go all the way through wizard for a mage build is cool, but I would go into Assassin Rogue at level 9. Close quarters sneak attack, then disengage and let your summon tank for you. Maybe go 8 levels into rogue for evasion and ASI, then round out with Bladesinger. Makes you extremely dangerous even after you’ve run out of spell slots.

  • @samfish2550
    @samfish2550 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized that twilight cleric monk could have some interesting combos with monk, either mercy to work on maxing the healing or on the shadow monk for better enabling your teleport without debuffing your party with casting darkness.

  • @a.z.pantera5577
    @a.z.pantera5577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay but if you take your 3rd level in Cleric, you get Spiritual Weapon. Of course youll want more Wisdom in this case, but paired with Shadow Blade, thats a dangerous combo. And Twilight Sanctuary adding some survivability along with your ludicrous tankiness as a Bladesinger.

  • @jorenthar9186
    @jorenthar9186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this

  • @freemanvosburg4542
    @freemanvosburg4542 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm working on a build a little bit like this, except I'm trying to get 3-6 levels of Undead Warlock and the rest in Twilight Cleric

  • @lyjara
    @lyjara ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean, maybe it's overkill, but if you go 1 LVL into hexblade lock, you could get the crit on 19-20 with triple advantage that's like what ~30% crit per turn? + At least some spells slots on a short rest. But it's MAD though.

  • @TalesStahl
    @TalesStahl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best option for this build is of course a pale tiefling that has a bodytype to look like an onion

  • @danasheik3786
    @danasheik3786 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you considered twilight cleric and gloom stalker? Would the gloom stalker’s ability to go invisible in low light areas crossover?

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does not. In fact if you were in darkness it would make you visible because it changes it to dim light.

  • @jacobweinstock2180
    @jacobweinstock2180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Character Idea I wanted to share
    A Thri Keen Armored Artificer or just heavy armor proficiency I'm not sure if they can wear armor like Tortles but still
    A Keen that has Bullet Beetle ancestor or something I haven't ironed out the details (ironically wasn't inspired by Blue Beetle coming out, happy coincidence)

  • @chrishicks1737
    @chrishicks1737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Before i even saw this video i was talking about my character in my next campaign. I told my dad i was gonna play a bladesinger. I decided instead of going 2 fighter like i originally was i am gonna take 2 levels of twilight cleric for the dim light advantage of shadow blade. My goal is first 6 levels of bladesinger and levels 7 and 8 into twilight cleric and then bladesinger the rest of the way.

  • @killcat1971
    @killcat1971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Umm one point of fine tuning at level 5 this build has 3rd level spell slots, an up cast Shadow Blade is 3D8.

  • @lars_vs
    @lars_vs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Slap on a gloomstalker and you’re basically always invisible without hindering your allies view.

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gloomstalker actually has anti synergy with twilight clerics channeled divinity. It forces the stalker into dim light so no one relies on dark vision to see them and makes then visible, even if in darkness.

    • @woutvanostaden1299
      @woutvanostaden1299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@DnD_Daily Throw in 7 lvls of warlock for shadow of moil and dim light gets turned into darkness.

  • @Mario.1997
    @Mario.1997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This build would be very interesting if you take 6 Twilight cleric & 14 levels of blade singer although it is less powerful.

  • @robertcollins2052
    @robertcollins2052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forever DM here. Finally a player stepped up to DM and I built a Twilight rune knight cleric multi class to just.... Get some revenge. Lol. I did nerf myself a bit though. Wish I would have seen this video first. Super creative. I also made a harangon bladesinger artificer multiclass. But with the rest of the party it wouldn't have meshed well. I want to play my bunny....

    • @Tom-bi7ir
      @Tom-bi7ir ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what was your artificer subclass? armorer?

    • @robertcollins2052
      @robertcollins2052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tom-bi7ir yeah. Its a lovely combo lol

  • @glitchking666
    @glitchking666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, just wondering on your thoughts on the new wizard, sorcerer, and warlock play test material from one dnd

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven’t dug through them yet to have an informed opinion. How bout you?

    • @glitchking666
      @glitchking666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DnD_Daily sorcerer and wizard I dig , just really some nice quality of life stuff , an of course switching the subclass to lvl 3 but they were both in pretty good places to begin with the warlock is weird making them a half caster with normal spell slots and lvl 3 subclass makes sense for other classes not so much for the warlock, it's interesting but I have to play test it, I kinda miss the pact slots it made them stand out .

  • @francescobisighin2495
    @francescobisighin2495 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Solo leveling vibes detected
    You could also use the shadar-kai wich is the high elf on steroids

  • @jonathanadams8255
    @jonathanadams8255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sooooo a problem is shadow blade and summon shadow spawn are both concentration.

    • @Wouldyoukindly4545
      @Wouldyoukindly4545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is what I was thinking

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, when you are using summon shadowspawn you would be using a hand crossbow or rapier and cantrips instead of shadow blade, just wanted to mention both because they are the two spells that take advantage of the dim light we create 👍

  • @thatlonewolfguy2878
    @thatlonewolfguy2878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might be a bit of a normie build but for a really good healer with a side of tank (helps to block damage aimed at allies so I kinda count it as passive healing) would you agree that Twilight Cleric/Paladin works since Lay on Hands is arguably one of the best healing abilities at low level, plus the ability to just be more of a tank, take a shield etc would help the build?

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว

      I definitely never say no to creative builds but there are some anti-synergies to consider.
      1. Stats are going to be rough. Str, con, wis, and chr need to be at least okay.
      2. They don’t get extra channel divinities but have to share a single one until cleric gets another. So if you want to use paladins vow of enmity you just spent your twilight channeled divinity too.
      3. Both classes have a major power bump around 5 (paladin 6) so choosing how much to put where can be tricky.
      Let me know what you come up with! Could be fun :)

  • @marshalzhukov4782
    @marshalzhukov4782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im using this to create a shadow wizard money gang character this is going to be the funniest thing i ever created

  • @commentary4298
    @commentary4298 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The twilight sanctum shouldn’t be able to reduce light to dim light. A candle makes a radius of dim light, if you light a candle in a brightly light room does the room dim?

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The aura creates dim light. Especially because it’s magic RAW and I lean towards it works just fine

    • @Alex_reH
      @Alex_reH ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DnD_Daily The candle creates dim light too.

    • @Samuel_Kabel
      @Samuel_Kabel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DnD_Daily Dancing Lights creates dim light.

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alex_reH A candle sheds...dim light. Again, the Cleric literally creates an area of Twilight and even mentions that the area is just filled with dim light. Nothing sheds dim light, the area is just filled with it.

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      a sphere of twilight emanates from you. The sphere is centered on you, has a 30-foot radius, and is filled with dim light. Notice how it doesn't say a sphere of "light" but specifically mentions Twilight and nothing sheds light, the area is just an area of dim light.

  • @VCdude18
    @VCdude18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do not get the benefit of Extra Attack if you cast a cantrip like booming blade / ray of frost / etc.

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a blade singer?

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      That is specifically what updated Bladesinger's extra attack does.

  • @Xander.arclander
    @Xander.arclander ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shadow blade scales at 3rd 5 and 7 its a bit of a odd one.

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the correction! That is odd.

  • @DracosDiabolis
    @DracosDiabolis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hummmmm crusher feat.... bladesinger with a flail. .....
    Happiness. Things im looking forward to. My kiddo graduation graduates preK soon. And going to kindergarten. And turning 5. Lol

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s so cool! Your little Dracos are going to be medium Dracos in no time.
      ☕️

    • @DracosDiabolis
      @DracosDiabolis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DnD_Daily her attitude is already there sometimes. Lol but yea future gamer.

  • @alexandregomes8854
    @alexandregomes8854 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    which attribute to invest in? Int or dext?

  • @Beer_goggles
    @Beer_goggles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't change a bright sunny day into dim light.
    Carry a candle into a pitch black room and yes, the dim light aura is seen...
    Now turn the light on in that room and see if you can see that candles dim light

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, but magic

    • @Samuel_Kabel
      @Samuel_Kabel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DnD_Daily Yeah, but cast Light on a candle stick for the exact same problem.

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Samuel_Kabel That is not even remotely similar, one is a literal aura of darkness/light that you carry with you, the other is a spell meant to light a dark room...does not compute.

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      "a sphere of twilight emanates from you. The sphere is centered on you, has a 30-foot radius, and is filled with dim light."

    • @Samuel_Kabel
      @Samuel_Kabel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LupineShadowOmegaMoonbeam spell:
      "A silvery beam of pale light shines down in a 5-foot-radius, 40-foot-high cylinder centered on a point within range. Until the spell ends, dim light fills the cylinder."

  • @etolanleyvon8277
    @etolanleyvon8277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not sure if this works if your already in sun or bright light. This might require DM approval. But great vid all the same!

    • @edoardofedeli1205
      @edoardofedeli1205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it works everywhere thanks to the channel divinity from Twilight Cleric!

    • @Samuel_Kabel
      @Samuel_Kabel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edoardofedeli1205 I have an even cooler idea! Use the Dancing Lights spell to create dim light!

  • @YouAnd_OnlyYou
    @YouAnd_OnlyYou ปีที่แล้ว

    The Darkling.

  • @JCinLapel
    @JCinLapel ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is anothe build I am thorwing at you based on a freind nickname for pixie sticks as kiddy cocane. Pix is a noble of a failing house that has turned to being a drug crime bos to keep his coffers form being enptied. He Fairy criminal/Noble that uses fairy posion charms and Illusion the start is 1 level Bard (Glamor) and 5 ranger (Fay Wanderer) finishes 7 Ranger with BEGUILING TWIST to redirect charms if the original target makes there save with and 13 Glamor for bonus HP generation and more charms

    • @JCinLapel
      @JCinLapel ปีที่แล้ว

      He also has has the posioner feat that for the whole sprite flavor to the character

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh. I'd just go Artificer Alchemist and then Enchantment Wizard.

    • @JCinLapel
      @JCinLapel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LupineShadowOmega interesting idea

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JCinLapel You'd be very tanky, have potions to buff your team, use crafting rules to create the conventional kinds, infusions, and even get full access to the wizard spell list. More even because artificer can heal.

  • @apollosungod6673
    @apollosungod6673 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not excited for One DnD. I'm more excited for my friend's TTRPG called Mortal Reins

  • @Chivalry10
    @Chivalry10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ugh....Summon Shadowspawn and Shadow Blade both concentration...

    • @DnD_Daily
      @DnD_Daily  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately yes, but both are good and give us diversity in how we capitalize on the dim light 👍

    • @lmsimao77
      @lmsimao77 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DnD_Daily Actually, Shadow Blade scales up at ODD levels, so when you first get to cast it you are a lvl5 full caster and have 3rd level slots. So your first shadow blade can deal 3d8 on a hit. ❤
      P.S.: I am not able to comment on the video, only reply.... 😢

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is why you have a hand crossbow, shoot people while you have the Shadowspawn out, cut them while you have the Shadow Blade.