Save Money and Be USFS Legal! Fisch Moto Spark Arrestor Spotlight and Install
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Many of us are looking for ways to be legal with our dirt bikes on public land and save a little coin. Sometimes I'll install an entirely new silencer which is internally spark arrested, and other times I'll install something like this product from Fisch Moto.
This thing is USFS approved and installs in only mere minutes. It might be just the thing you've been looking for.
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Keep in mind that on a 2 stroke bike, I'd MUCH rather install an FMF Turbine Core 2.0 USFS approved silencer because I don't want to plug up my exhaust with a screen, but this is a good option at a much lower price point for the 4 strokes. Just throwing it out there for those on a budget.
Just installed the 2.0 and it really works well with the fmf header… power band is expanded and lower end lug feels smoother
My experience with the Fish Moto insert (we use one in four 2 stroke bikes right now) is that the screws don't come back out very easy without the Allen wrench rounding out inside the screw or else it rounds off the end of the Allen wrench so I just blow them out periodically with a propane torch while leaving in place. If you do remove it to clean it, just using a cleaning solvent or whatever else does not clean it out as well. The torch sure does though.
I completely agree if you do not clean this spark arrest or screen after every 4 to 5 hours of writing it will get clogged up and you will have problems
Just installed this on my 450 XCF this week. 6 hours of riding and never noticed any changes to the power. Great product.
I just installed one of these on my kx250x and was super impressed with the package. Lock tight, tool, extra screws...made well. The cost savings over buying a muffler with screen is absurd. Worth every penny.
I have used a kitchen sink mesh drain screen to do this. Made out of SS mesh and works great.
This is something that should come with your bike stock
I love this thing. I bought one for my YZ250FX when I bought it. Works like a charm. It did soften the power a touch when I installed it. Nothing that is super noticeable or bad I'd say.
We use these 3 of these on 6 of our 2 strokes. Just remember to clean it out after a few hours run time with a propane torch because they will plug up.
Good solution to get compliant if you you don’t want change out an exhaust. But it makes me wonder ever seen a spark coming out of a MC exhaust? 40 years never seen one. How long do you think a bike that is spitting hot chunks of steel will run? Good story line for Myth Busters.
I also thought that SA were not necessary. That is until last winter where the group I was in actually caused a fire in dry leaves. Luckily we stopped shortly after and saw some smoke coming up through the trees about 1/4 mile back. We were able to go back and kick it out.
That's exactly what I used on my KTM 450 XC-F, works perfect and saves a s*** ton of $$$ plus it softens the power a touch which is nice for trail use and quiets things down a touch!!
Thanks for sharing Kyle. I did not realize these were even available. I will check into one for my vintage Sachs powered two stroke.
I installed one on my 350 and worked great. Put 50 hrs on it no issues.
Nice
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Don’t run these on carbureted two strokes, especially if you ride at varied altitude where your jetting may not be perfect. They clog up and cause poor running esp at high rpm with ~50% power reduction. The issues are almost identical to a poorly jetted bike so you could be chasing jetting problems for months when the true problem is the clogged screen. I installed one in my brand new YZ250X and slowly over time the performance got worse and worse. I kept changing jets trying to improve it with no luck. My buddy recommended removing it and when I did the bike turned into an animal. Couldn’t believe how strong it ran without that clogged spark arrestor. When I pulled it out it was like having a wet sock stuffed in the exhaust. I ride in New Mexico between 4500-9000ft, JD jetting kit, 172 main, blue needle third clip, air screw 1 1/4 turns out, runs perfect now.
wish from factory comes with SA, sadly many people not as much responsible this days, nice video as always, cheers V!
Been using thus SA on my KTM 300 XCW for 2 years in order to pass tech….works fairly well..the only issue is when you install the insert using the 3mm set screws with locktite…come service time..you’ll never be able to remove the set screws…you’ll round off the set screw….they are way too
small…be warned..
You are right. Fish Moto should increase the screw size and forget the 2 mm. Maybe just use a 3 or 4 mm instead.
VERY important to have these Spark Arresters on ....Only you can Prevent Forest Fires!
On mine, I didn't even have to use the screws. The fit was tight and exhaust exerts almost no real pressure so it ain't coming out. To take it out, I can pry it out with a screw driver or just unbolt the end of the exhaust up and take off to clean. Easy peasy and so cheap. $80
I use one of these on my stock 2021 YZ250FX exhaust. Works great. More affordable than a new slip on and easier to install than an exhaust end cap from someone like Fastway. Rode a whole season on it. Never fell out.
3 of our 7 bikes needed one of these. I installed them in like 2 mins each. Great economical option.
Better hope it’s not on a 2 stroke or you will get stranded
That's some awesome drone footage you got for the b roll
Bought one of these for a 300 two stroke and it didn't fit worth a crap. Sent it back bought the FMF 2.1
greetings from Ontario.
I can not say it enough, I love these Honda videos!! I just can’t wait to see that 250!!!
Yes the other Rocky Mountain is in Winchester, Ky. I’ve been there several times. Good bunch of people.
Do they have an actual store you can go to?
@@rookietrucker1240 Yes, they have things on display you can purchase, plus you can purchase what ever they sell in the warehouse.
I don't know if I want to wait until FMF has Q4 inserts in stock for $40 or go with this for double the price.
Looks like a great product thanks for letting us know
I lived in Ontario too for a few years
I would love to know how many fires have actually been started by motorcycles. I'm guessing 0.
Exaclty maybe from dry brush or tilling over on some grass and the header pipe starts it. I have never seen a backfire out the tailpipe in all the hours of following riders.
Vote out those making stupid laws in California
That is a super great deal, prices on those silencers are terrible. (For a guy like me with very little budget anyway)
Installed one of these on my 2013 350 and didn't notice any difference in power. My only issue is I bought mine before they were forest approved.
I love my Canadian Brother's 🎉
Good morning thanks for sharing your video
I live in Canada. like you said that part is made in Canada and it’s some how cheaper ($5) to buy it from your link then where I live shipping taxes duties everything included.. This is so messed up. Lol
yup....lol
I like the riding footage, what drone were you using to track you?
Would be nice if the made one for 2.5 inch exhaust
$80 ? Holy moly, they used to have and you can still find the old, Sparky for $25.
What about older bikes ? 20 + Years old ? Measure ?
Doesn't changing (it looks like reducing?) the inner diameter of the exhaust exit affect the airflow which could potentially require fueling changes to compensate?
The damn thing stranded me on the trail after 10hrs. It was packed so full of this the bike wouldn’t even run.
Uncle Ronnie says, ride red get more head… 🤷♂️
🔥AT $100+ I ORDERED A Q4 FMF FOR $350.
THE INSERT IS OK...BUT NOT WORTH A BENJAMIN.😔 FOR $250 MORE YOU GET A SUPERIOR MORE POWERFUL AND MUCH QUITER EXHAUST. YES I UPGRADED EVEN AFTER GETTING THIS.🔥🙄
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Turned my YZ 250X into a 125. Better to go with a Turbinecore.
I'd rather use a Turbine core 2.0 for the 2 strokes, but the 4 stroke silencers are MUCH more money, so this is a good fit for many people on a bike like this one.
Im not sure if i missed it but have you done a review on the 250rx? i know 2022 made a bunch of changes but im seriously debating between the rx or fx. I race harescrambles and ride some single track/tight technical stuff but want a 4 stroke.
sound bite before and after?
Price is still to high for me unfortunately, might as well go with a full end cap.
You should try the DB dog by hyde racing $57 and usfs approved and no screen, I use on my 05 yz450
Seems pricey for the 2 stroke KTM crowd. EE makes a whole replacement end cap that doesn’t restrict the size down for nearly the same price.
The ee cap doesn't fit the new mufflers. I ordered one for my 22TE150I and it is entirely incorrect. The mufflers have been changed but the ee screen cap did not get updated yet. I said enough of this bs and I just ride with the original muffler as is. So far I haven't burnt any forest down with my bikes. In fact I don't think anyone has.
EE replacement cap/screen for the 2 strokes is nearly the cost of the FMF turbine core 2, so I don't buy those anymore. And yes, they can still plug up with oil, which the turbine core 2 and 2.1 doesn't.
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I bought the turbine core for my new te150 (needed a screen to be compliant).
I felt the turbine core fit and finish was China at best. The end cap and inlet are pressed on and the can has no finished edge at the endcap. This makes the can look unfinished and pre-dented. Fmf slapped an ugly sticker all the way at the end to hide the unsightly dents from the press fitted endcap.
Fmf was a step down in appearance and quality, I didn't keep it on the bike. If the ee cap would have fit the new design oe silencer and not be prone clogging like you stated, I would have it.
Don’t put it on a 2 stroke it will leave you stranded on the trail. You have to clean them about every 5hrs
Junk junk junk don’t use them. I had one and was constantly having to take it out and clean it. Spend the money and get an FMF spark arrestor silencer. My videos on my page of a bad day With this insert
They require constant cleaning on 2strokes! Bike runs horrible when they get dirty/plugged up!
@@925rtrider yep it almost didn’t make it back to the truck after 5-10hrs with it on.
Hey Kyle did it quiet it down any
Does it cause harm to engine
So I’m between this one and the fast way. Does anyone have an opinion on either or which one to go with?
Is it possible to order one of these for a 2t shorty silencer? or is it only for stock silencers
Would it work the same with my 150r ?
Almost a hundred dollars for a little piece of mesh 😂
I didn't think Ontario was part of Canada
Hi how are you?
So, basically you’re saying you served your mission in Ontario…
Me watching this video and starring my klx 300r with big gun exhaust and trowing flames i love murica!
This is one product I will say do not buy
I don't know about you guys, but I would never allow myself to even be close to law enforcement when I'm on or off the trail. Keep your eyes peeled for policy enforcers.
They are easily spotted in costumes with tin badges attached. Policy enforcers commonly wear masks with patriotic symbols on them.
Worst case Ontario you take it out and clean it every 20 hrs.