The right way to demo an amp. No pedals, No flash shredding. Just hearing the amps tone. I already have a Chris Stapleton Princeton but I enjoyed hearing it played well. Also have a 59 fender Bassman, another great tone amp.
The best played, documented, musical and precise demos in the guitar community! Well done! Hats off! Those 3 amplifiers are a win. I would go for the Suhr myself. Incredible sound.
@@vintagesoul5146 As someone that owns the Suhr Hombre, good luck turning it up to 4 or 6 without annoying everyone in your home, or your neighbors. It's an amazing amp, but quiet is something it is not. A bedroom guitarist might be able to turn it up with attenuation. They are becoming more common it seems, but still not everywhere given the typical cost for something better than an L-pad.
@@Andy_Yates I just got a 61 Princeton and it is perfect I've been using low wattage amps lately Got a Tone King Gremlin head recently and it's perfect too and plenty loud enough to gig with
Agreed, I think that about Dr Z just generally. They always sound so open, rich and have lots of harmonic overtones and just a very 3D sound. Always very Zingy too which has now become vital for me in an amp now.
It’s the EF86 preamp that makes it special, like a Vox AC Top Boost. I have an amp like this a 20w Barr NY-made boutique amp with parallel, switchable EL34/6V6 power sections with separate volume controls. A very unique, gainy amp that rocks!
I've built copies of American amps. Easy. Anything euro will have that EF86 .VOX, whatever. I bought200 NOS tubes. I gave up. This tube is over mylimit. Nothing sounds better than an EF86 tubed amp. Ill just buy that Dr. Z
Man...Imma tell you what! Jack, your playin' absolutely brings the best out of these amps. So many tasteful chord progressions intertwined with articulate tone settings. Your insight into these amps is very informative. Cheers from Texas!!!
Now that I've owned my original '62 Brownface Princeton for a few months, I can safely say that the Stapleton reissue gets pretty damn close! I just love how the Princeton gets into almost fuzzy territory, but I'll be back on the hunt for a Deluxe one day lol. Great video guys, cheers!
Z28..........my fav DrZ amp, and one of my fav all time amps...........simple on the outside, but a LOT going on under the hood.........and you’d never believe that was a 1x10! 😎😊👍
Good choice of guitar to demo the raw tones of these 3 great amps, Suhr “wins” for me due to my own requirements, but no losers in this company! Great playing and excellent that there are no pedals involved which allows a true comparison of the amps/speakers!👍👏👏🎶
Definitely love my Brown Sound amp. Have had a 63' Vibroverb RI for nearly a year and I'm fairly sure its my desert island amp. The only way I'd part with it would be for a hand-wired version.
My first observation, and the characteristic which stayed with me, was the spongy sound - which is a form of "natural" compression (i.e. rectifier tube sagging). It doesn't suit every music style, but it's just right for grungy blues, classic rock or, like you say, the dirtier end of Americana. However, your cleaner demo revealed that the "sag" doesn't happen until you really dig in and whack the strings. This sag is quite different to any compressor pedal on the market, although it's reminiscent of vintage optical compressors.
Wow! All 3 sound amazing. Excellent playing Jack-great touch and tone. I'd happily take any of those 3 and paired with that guitar they sound fantastic.
That first progression you played on the Suhr using the middle position and a clean sound was awesome. Reminded me a bit of Norah Jones, actually... Killer upload!
There's no Z-28's on your site so I'm guessing this video has served it's purpose well!! It sounds fantastic and as usual your demonstration of the capabilities of the kit is second to none. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos so informative and not the usual widdly widdle pants.
I take it back, searching on the site brings up the Z 28 but for some reason using the filters doesn't include that model in the DR Z range? Never mind! As you were
Thanks for pointing that out, will have a look into it. Glad that you found it in the end! If in doubt we try to include links for the products used in the description so keep an eye out there too!
I got the Hombre from you guys a few months back (it sent me down a bit of a Suhr rabbit hole to be honest) . I highly recommend it, fantastic amp. I recommend getting a reactive load box as well at the moment given most of us aren’t getting out playing loud.
Thanks. Went in thinking the Suhr Hombre would come out on top, with the bigger cab/driver. But actually, I preferred the Chris Stapleton's character by quite a lot. But then, the Z28 really sounded the biggest of the three, by far. And there's Z28 head version, so I think I'm sold on a Z28. To add a classic vintage Fender Deluxe tweed type tone to my arsenal, joining a Marshall ST20H JTM and a Vox AC30. I reckon the Z28 head with a larger 1x12, or even 2x12 Greenback or Creamback cab will sound huge.
Plugged straight in and the tones are epic. You don't need a lot of gain to get a good guitar tone. I wish the kids just starting out would realize this sooner than later.
Why do you wish that? So everything sounds the same? Not everyone likes the "tone" you like. Some (a lot of) People like high gain. if everyone played the same old guitar into the same old amp it would be boring.
@@fixedgear37 The point is turn down the gain to get a better guitar tone. Guitar players just starting out tend to crank the gain to 10, turn the Mids to 0, and leave it there until they go on their tone quest. They often have no sense of where each guy in the band should be sitting int he frequency range and the overall sound of the music suffers. Guitar is a Mids instrument. Listen to your favorite guitar players for the music you like. Is their tone drowing in reverb, delay, and other effects? Certain genres use a lot of gain. Cool. But you should consider experimenting a little by turning down the gain a bit at band volumes. See if you notice how the guitar sounds clearer and mroe defined.
6g2 is fixed bias but sounds squish/compressed when pushed(cathodyne PI design with modest B+ filter),a different animal from the others..The Dr Z is aggressive and wringing,nice tight clear crunch.The Hombre seems to fill the middle ground.All nice amps.
There was something about the Hombre's breakup that sounded like an old transistor breaking up when you turn it too loud but other than that it sounded good. The Dr Z is a little more modern sounding but I like it's breakup, and of course the Fender's cleans are still amazing.
Like and wish I could try all three, but I own the Stapleton Princeton, so adding a few thoughts: (a) maybe weird to say this, but it sounds great with IR cab extensions, better than all the heads I own, and isolating the handwired amp while quieting the little speaker through an Ox or Torpedo has replaced a lot of my digital modeling in quarantine times; (b) wish the "speed" of the trem had a bigger range, everything above 2-3 is really fast but between 1-2 it's rich and on all the time; (c) it does seem expensive for this simple circuit but for a handwired fender it's comparable to the boutiques in the category and maybe has a brand to carry value later? (d) It can get very loud; and (e) I appreciate Stapleton but don't play his style of music, it's just a great amp
All three are excellent, but I give the nod to the Z for that EF86 preamp. There's just a little something special about that sound. Same for a Vox AC15.
I was lucky enough to have both amps(Fender and Suhr) as a weekend loan from my local brick and mortar music store. I was looking for a nice amp for my Jazzmaster. I liked em both bought finally bought the Fender which is unsurpassable when in conjunction with a Jazzmaster(i have a niiiice 62)….the tremolo was what sold the amp to me….
IMO They all sounded amazing, however the DR Z was the meanest, and with a ten inch speaker? Put that through a Z Best 2X12 and bye bye! You’re a great player my man. Love the clips!
Also, thank you for tuning your guitar with having it in tune all throughout the demo. Lol. Princeton to me sounded the best. I guess they got there first and everybody tried their version which was just a modif ied version of the original
The Z doesn’t crap out at ALL! Sorry they discontinued this model? The Suhr, is really nice, especially with the 335. If I were a rich man, I’d have a studio full off these kinds of amps...and more! Dr. Z continues to impress? Great company
You can build one hell of a good sounding Brown Deluxe these days. You can spend more than what the Hombre sells for or a lot less. From a full lineup of Mercury transformers, NOS tubes, NOS Allen Bradley resistors, boutique caps etc to an inexpensive kit.
Definitely hearing that the brownface sound falls into it's own spectrum, somewhere between tweed tone and blackface tone - but closer to the tweed side, I'd say. Honestly though, the more I listen, the more like I feel like it falls short of what I like about tweeds and blackfaces, and so, falls short of being a kind of best-of-both-worlds amp. The cleans are just a little too dark for my taste, compared to a blackface (though that could have been because of the humbuckers), and the fully cranked fuzz-like tone also falls short of the monster tone of a cranked tweed. Also seems to be missing that strange thing about tweeds where you can have a full-bore squishy fuzz, but also still hear chimey articulated notes in the treble range (also could have been due to the humbuckers though..).
Great video content, jacks amazing, the Princeton sounds the best for “that sound” (I own one so I am tainted as a judge), the Z sounds a little Voxish to me at times, but still sounded better than the Suhr. I bet it’s pretty versatile. The Suhr was pretty good, Hope it’s not too pricey. How about the 335 though!
I concur that the vibe of the Suhr isn't quite the same as the Fender, yet it has more wide-ranging tones. Anyway, I suggest that the difference could be lessened by retrofitting slightly 'rougher' sounding valves (tubes), such as Sovtek. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the tubes in the Suhr, or advocating retrofitting different different brands of tube on a whim - I've experimented with so many different brands and variations and I've learnt that there's not really a better or best, inferior or worst; it's about discovering what gets you the sound you hear in your head (or achieves the sound in the producer's mind - which may often be "like [X] or [named player]."
I don't think I've responded to this video before. I recently picked up a Suhr Hombre and it's everything you've heard in the YT demos. [BTW, it really helps to have a fine speaker setup for your PC]. Best little amp on the planet for overdriven tones... sorry Princeton... I'll take the Hombre hands-down. It takes pedals well too. BTW, putting a 12" speaker in a Princeton makes a significant improvement in roundness of tone, bass response and volume. I have done this mod to a BF RI Princeton. My RI Princeton can't compare to the Chris S version so please don't go there.. OK?? Regardless, neither can compare to the Hombre IMHO. It's one very bad boy, this Hombre!! If you can afford one (~$1600), just do it... you'll never regret it!! Peace, Love & Bobby Sherman!!
The Dr. Z Z-28 has some very cool sounds. It's too bad it didn't have a 12" speaker like the others. It likely would have made a huge difference in my preferences.
After 27 years , my original ‘62 Princeton remains my favorite amp ever
Why they didn't call it the staple-tone, I don't know!
The right way to demo an amp. No pedals, No flash shredding. Just hearing the amps tone. I already have a Chris Stapleton Princeton but I enjoyed hearing it played well. Also have a 59 fender Bassman, another great tone amp.
Can't go wrong with a 4/10 59 Bassman It's my birth year amp
That Suhr sounded like something straight off of the first ZZ Top album!
The best played, documented, musical and precise demos in the guitar community! Well done! Hats off! Those 3 amplifiers are a win. I would go for the Suhr myself. Incredible sound.
Thank you for not using pedals, this was great.
So true. Hopefully both bedroom and professional guitarists will follow this idea.
@@vintagesoul5146 As someone that owns the Suhr Hombre, good luck turning it up to 4 or 6 without annoying everyone in your home, or your neighbors. It's an amazing amp, but quiet is something it is not. A bedroom guitarist might be able to turn it up with attenuation. They are becoming more common it seems, but still not everywhere given the typical cost for something better than an L-pad.
@@Andy_Yates I just got a 61 Princeton and it is perfect I've been using low wattage amps lately Got a Tone King Gremlin head recently and it's perfect too and plenty loud enough to gig with
The Hombre really shines. I was more impressed than I thought I'd be.
Man...that Z28...WOW!
That Fender Princeton is just amazing !
All 3 are top notch but that Z-28 really has something special to it, sounds so open and rich!
Agreed, I think that about Dr Z just generally. They always sound so open, rich and have lots of harmonic overtones and just a very 3D sound. Always very Zingy too which has now become vital for me in an amp now.
It’s the EF86 preamp that makes it special, like a Vox AC Top Boost. I have an amp like this a 20w Barr NY-made boutique amp with parallel, switchable EL34/6V6 power sections with separate volume controls. A very unique, gainy amp that rocks!
I could never live with the name "Dr. Z."
I've built copies of American amps. Easy.
Anything euro will have that EF86 .VOX, whatever. I bought200 NOS tubes. I gave up. This tube is over mylimit. Nothing sounds better than an EF86 tubed amp. Ill just buy that Dr. Z
I’ve owned 3 Z amps they are amazing… so musical… 3 D - the best amps I’ve ever played through
Man...Imma tell you what! Jack, your playin' absolutely brings the best out of these amps. So many tasteful chord progressions intertwined with articulate tone settings. Your insight into these amps is very informative. Cheers from Texas!!!
Ya, right? You definitely wanta get this kid playing your band ... :--)
Loved the Dr Z the most with the Princeton coming in at a close second
That's the best clip I've seen/heard showcasing the Z-28.
I would have liked to hear a Z28 with a 12" speaker at the 333 setting. Thanks for the comparison, stellar quality, and playing.
Suhr...all day, everyday! I have played mostly Fender amps my whole life but the Suhr is really a terrific sounding amp!!
Now that I've owned my original '62 Brownface Princeton for a few months, I can safely say that the Stapleton reissue gets pretty damn close! I just love how the Princeton gets into almost fuzzy territory, but I'll be back on the hunt for a Deluxe one day lol. Great video guys, cheers!
Great amps. Love the simplicity and sound of the Z.
Z28..........my fav DrZ amp, and one of my fav all time amps...........simple on the outside, but a LOT going on under the hood.........and you’d never believe that was a 1x10! 😎😊👍
The Z-28 is the clear winner in my opinion. I've owned all 3, still have the Z, as well as a MKII Z-28.
Agreed Amp comparisons are best dry, no pedals, straight into the amp. Thanks!
Good choice of guitar to demo the raw tones of these 3 great amps, Suhr “wins” for me due to my own requirements, but no losers in this company! Great playing and excellent that there are no pedals involved which allows a true comparison of the amps/speakers!👍👏👏🎶
Definitely love my Brown Sound amp. Have had a 63' Vibroverb RI for nearly a year and I'm fairly sure its my desert island amp. The only way I'd part with it would be for a hand-wired version.
My first observation, and the characteristic which stayed with me, was the spongy sound - which is a form of "natural" compression (i.e. rectifier tube sagging). It doesn't suit every music style, but it's just right for grungy blues, classic rock or, like you say, the dirtier end of Americana. However, your cleaner demo revealed that the "sag" doesn't happen until you really dig in and whack the strings. This sag is quite different to any compressor pedal on the market, although it's reminiscent of vintage optical compressors.
Most excellent, Jack! Z-28 was where it be eht, man.
Your demos are top notch and made greater by your fantastic tasteful playing. Keep up the great work!
I just bought this amp second hand for $1200. It arrives on Tuesday. I am so excited.
Wow! All 3 sound amazing. Excellent playing Jack-great touch and tone. I'd happily take any of those 3 and paired with that guitar they sound fantastic.
This video made me buy a Z-28 -/10” combo. Thanks man.. can’t wait till it comes in.
An embarrassment of riches. So nice. Tx for this demo!
How about the Mesa Boogie CA Tweed. Mine has tons of Brown tones and attenuation to boot. Goes from Champ to BandMaster in a second flat.
I really like the sag of the Stapleton Princeton when cranked.
Amazing amp demos, unbeatable! Suhr Hombre just sounds wonderful clean and bad ass dimed with a humbucker guitar. Love Z's as well, fantastic amps!
Excellent picking here, no bluesy noodles to be heard. Thank you.
That first progression you played on the Suhr using the middle position and a clean sound was awesome. Reminded me a bit of Norah Jones, actually...
Killer upload!
There's no Z-28's on your site so I'm guessing this video has served it's purpose well!! It sounds fantastic and as usual your demonstration of the capabilities of the kit is second to none. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos so informative and not the usual widdly widdle pants.
I take it back, searching on the site brings up the Z 28 but for some reason using the filters doesn't include that model in the DR Z range? Never mind! As you were
Thanks for pointing that out, will have a look into it. Glad that you found it in the end!
If in doubt we try to include links for the products used in the description so keep an eye out there too!
I got the Hombre from you guys a few months back (it sent me down a bit of a Suhr rabbit hole to be honest) . I highly recommend it, fantastic amp. I recommend getting a reactive load box as well at the moment given most of us aren’t getting out playing loud.
What reactive box you reccomend?
@@blam07 Suhr
The Dr Z was the winner here!
As far as I'm concerned, this guy is the best player on youtibe. Are you in a band? Where can I hear your music? Thank you very much!
I second this!
He is
Yeah I thought the Suhr for my tastes, sounded great 👍
Dream guitar and dream amps right here
It's such a pleasure to watch and listen to your videos. The hands plugged right into the amp for the real tone.
Suhr for the win! YMMV. 😉
The best pure sounds! I love those chops too!
Bloody Brilliant Vid! Love your playing. Thanks!
Wow... 62 Princeton amazing
Exactly
Thanks. Went in thinking the Suhr Hombre would come out on top, with the bigger cab/driver. But actually, I preferred the Chris Stapleton's character by quite a lot. But then, the Z28 really sounded the biggest of the three, by far. And there's Z28 head version, so I think I'm sold on a Z28. To add a classic vintage Fender Deluxe tweed type tone to my arsenal, joining a Marshall ST20H JTM and a Vox AC30. I reckon the Z28 head with a larger 1x12, or even 2x12 Greenback or Creamback cab will sound huge.
I'm all about that Z-28!
Z~28 my favorite Camaro but the Suhr was Awesome great demo 👍🔥🎸🦅
What is that microphone you guys use on your videos? It always sounds great.
Plugged straight in and the tones are epic. You don't need a lot of gain to get a good guitar tone. I wish the kids just starting out would realize this sooner than later.
Why do you wish that? So everything sounds the same? Not everyone likes the "tone" you like. Some (a lot of) People like high gain. if everyone played the same old guitar into the same old amp it would be boring.
@@fixedgear37 The point is turn down the gain to get a better guitar tone. Guitar players just starting out tend to crank the gain to 10, turn the Mids to 0, and leave it there until they go on their tone quest. They often have no sense of where each guy in the band should be sitting int he frequency range and the overall sound of the music suffers.
Guitar is a Mids instrument. Listen to your favorite guitar players for the music you like. Is their tone drowing in reverb, delay, and other effects? Certain genres use a lot of gain. Cool. But you should consider experimenting a little by turning down the gain a bit at band volumes. See if you notice how the guitar sounds clearer and mroe defined.
6g2 is fixed bias but sounds squish/compressed when pushed(cathodyne PI design with modest B+ filter),a different animal from the others..The Dr Z is aggressive and wringing,nice tight clear crunch.The Hombre seems to fill the middle ground.All nice amps.
Man the Z really shines when you crank it up!
Suhr was the shizzle
Loved the DRZ as well
Great playing mate 👍🏼
There was something about the Hombre's breakup that sounded like an old transistor breaking up when you turn it too loud but other than that it sounded good. The Dr Z is a little more modern sounding but I like it's breakup, and of course the Fender's cleans are still amazing.
man, what en epic demo. nice one
Like and wish I could try all three, but I own the Stapleton Princeton, so adding a few thoughts: (a) maybe weird to say this, but it sounds great with IR cab extensions, better than all the heads I own, and isolating the handwired amp while quieting the little speaker through an Ox or Torpedo has replaced a lot of my digital modeling in quarantine times; (b) wish the "speed" of the trem had a bigger range, everything above 2-3 is really fast but between 1-2 it's rich and on all the time; (c) it does seem expensive for this simple circuit but for a handwired fender it's comparable to the boutiques in the category and maybe has a brand to carry value later? (d) It can get very loud; and (e) I appreciate Stapleton but don't play his style of music, it's just a great amp
Nice one, hombré.
Z 28 is absolutely beautiful tone
All three are excellent, but I give the nod to the Z for that EF86 preamp. There's just a little something special about that sound. Same for a Vox AC15.
I can’t tell which is more brown on the '62r. The tolex or the power section.
I was lucky enough to have both amps(Fender and Suhr) as a weekend loan from my local brick and mortar music store. I was looking for a nice amp for my Jazzmaster. I liked em both bought finally bought the Fender which is unsurpassable when in conjunction with a Jazzmaster(i have a niiiice 62)….the tremolo was what sold the amp to me….
IMO They all sounded amazing, however the DR Z was the meanest, and with a ten inch speaker? Put that through a Z Best 2X12 and bye bye! You’re a great player my man. Love the clips!
That Suhr sounds like all the late 60's Woodstock era stuff. Incredible
But the DR Z seems to be the most versatile and spanky. That overdrive 😮
In the Pete Thorn Hombre review, he waxes on about the air coming out of his 335 vents when he really digs in. I bet Jack was getting a mini Tsunami.
great work as usual
I own 4 original Brown Face Fenders and I'd say Dr Z has the best tone.
Also, thank you for tuning your guitar with having it in tune all throughout the demo. Lol. Princeton to me sounded the best. I guess they got there first and everybody tried their version which was just a modif ied version of the original
Amazing playing and great amps but that Z 28 sounder stunning
great video! need a blackface shootout now
Volume, Treble, Bass: what more does one need ? Dr Z does it again !
Best Amps Ever! Holy hot damn! And killer playing!
The Z doesn’t crap out at ALL! Sorry they discontinued this model? The Suhr, is really nice, especially with the 335.
If I were a rich man, I’d have a studio full off these kinds of amps...and more!
Dr. Z continues to impress? Great company
You can build one hell of a good sounding Brown Deluxe these days. You can spend more than what the Hombre sells for or a lot less. From a full lineup of Mercury transformers, NOS tubes, NOS Allen Bradley resistors, boutique caps etc to an inexpensive kit.
@@matthewf1979 hear that! Not sure I have the skill set? Playing with the insides of tube amps can be tricky? Love the idea!
Doc is working on an improved V2 including a MV I believe
Beautiful sounds for sure. 👍
Great licks, great amps, thanks!
I couldn’t give you a flip for any of them frankly 😮
Mate, awesome playing
who is this kid? killer chops, my man.
Great tones and great playing!!
All 3 are good. The z stands out.
I would have liked to have heard the normal channel on the suhr as well
Definitely the Hombre for me
Not my cuppa tea. I'll take that Princeton Fawn everyday.
Definitely hearing that the brownface sound falls into it's own spectrum, somewhere between tweed tone and blackface tone - but closer to the tweed side, I'd say. Honestly though, the more I listen, the more like I feel like it falls short of what I like about tweeds and blackfaces, and so, falls short of being a kind of best-of-both-worlds amp. The cleans are just a little too dark for my taste, compared to a blackface (though that could have been because of the humbuckers), and the fully cranked fuzz-like tone also falls short of the monster tone of a cranked tweed. Also seems to be missing that strange thing about tweeds where you can have a full-bore squishy fuzz, but also still hear chimey articulated notes in the treble range (also could have been due to the humbuckers though..).
Great video content, jacks amazing, the Princeton sounds the best for “that sound” (I own one so I am tainted as a judge), the Z sounds a little Voxish to me at times, but still sounded better than the Suhr. I bet it’s pretty versatile. The Suhr was pretty good, Hope it’s not too pricey. How about the 335 though!
I concur that the vibe of the Suhr isn't quite the same as the Fender, yet it has more wide-ranging tones. Anyway, I suggest that the difference could be lessened by retrofitting slightly 'rougher' sounding valves (tubes), such as Sovtek. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the tubes in the Suhr, or advocating retrofitting different different brands of tube on a whim - I've experimented with so many different brands and variations and I've learnt that there's not really a better or best, inferior or worst; it's about discovering what gets you the sound you hear in your head (or achieves the sound in the producer's mind - which may often be "like [X] or [named player]."
Man, that Chris Stapleton sounded like it was about to blow up.
I like them all but I would trade the vibrato for tube driven spring reverb. Who uses vibrato anyways?
Outstanding - thank you. What style are you playing, particularly when on the Hombre? I'd like to explore and learn!
I don't think I've responded to this video before. I recently picked up a Suhr Hombre and it's everything you've heard in the YT demos. [BTW, it really helps to have a fine speaker setup for your PC]. Best little amp on the planet for overdriven tones... sorry Princeton... I'll take the Hombre hands-down. It takes pedals well too. BTW, putting a 12" speaker in a Princeton makes a significant improvement in roundness of tone, bass response and volume. I have done this mod to a BF RI Princeton. My RI Princeton can't compare to the Chris S version so please don't go there.. OK?? Regardless, neither can compare to the Hombre IMHO. It's one very bad boy, this Hombre!! If you can afford one (~$1600), just do it... you'll never regret it!! Peace, Love & Bobby Sherman!!
The Dr. Z Z-28 has some very cool sounds. It's too bad it didn't have a 12" speaker like the others. It likely would have made a huge difference in my preferences.
No Tone king amp??
nice playing
damn that Suhr sounded great
That Z28 is awesome
Dr Z. Wins. And it has the Dr Z name. And it chimes 😎
Brown deluxe please!
I like them all but that Z-28 seems the most versatile , it has something different going on
That Z with a 12 inch speaker would be nice All sounded good but enjoyed the Hombre w that Celestion
The hombre is more closely related to the Deluxe as opposed to the Princeton so it should have a bit more headroom..
DOWN BROWNIE is the best one of them all.
Fender was the best. Cuts thorough any stage! Twang & midrange!!