Zain vs Mang0 - Winners Final: Top 8 Melee Singles - Genesis 7 | Marth vs Falco

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  • Zain (Marth) vs C9 Mang0 (Falco) - Melee Singles Top 8: Winners Finals - Genesis 7
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  • @ThePi314Man
    @ThePi314Man 4 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    "I'm never losing to Zain again!"
    Now that's the Mango

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh boy did he lose to Zain again

    • @roy8749
      @roy8749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bladefox5082 ...

    • @bladefox5082
      @bladefox5082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@roy8749 that was before ss11 lol

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The very end of that last stock was so beautiful. Zain went full agro mode and shut down every recovery option falco had. Nothing falco did could have saved him. If you watch after those 3 jabs... He even runs off the stage to cover any further potential recovery. Text book option coverage.

  • @justfetus
    @justfetus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    this is SUCH a great match. Would've loved to see a rematch in the grand finals.

  • @Greyhound33
    @Greyhound33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Zain looks so intimidating to play. Maybe most intimidating player today

    • @haydonc5256
      @haydonc5256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Acorn 15 I swear everytime someone beats Zain, they pop off super hard. Zain really makes them work for it.

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From Maui lmao fr

    • @lukerose4166
      @lukerose4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      From Maui He’s like a Marth playing Armada

    • @blakeswanson1322
      @blakeswanson1322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Greyhound33 no lol how did mango take any of armadas style

  • @john-erichernandez432
    @john-erichernandez432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Zain with the mogul moves sweatshirt

    • @harb1ng3r82
      @harb1ng3r82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It’s his first time ever wearing it too, otherwise the logo would have come off by now.

    • @john-erichernandez432
      @john-erichernandez432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@harb1ng3r82 lmfao

  • @SYao99
    @SYao99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    There were more powershields in this game than I've ever seen in my life

    • @JoshT4life
      @JoshT4life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should see him vs samus

  • @yusuke2468
    @yusuke2468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    7:24 that mangle though

  • @neilw5541
    @neilw5541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Somebody sponsor this Zain guy please

    • @jordanadams7129
      @jordanadams7129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Neil W “This zain guy” He is top 10 in the world put some respec on his name

    • @raheshramesh413
      @raheshramesh413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jordan Adams looking more like top 5 recently

    • @michaelcorser4350
      @michaelcorser4350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@raheshramesh413 Looking more top 3 to me.

    • @pretzel_aksmash353
      @pretzel_aksmash353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      He's very good with blue haired sword guy

    • @Wouldbutnaw
      @Wouldbutnaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Man if only he was sponsored by a 5'2 man who is a round 1 pools commentator

  • @PKWinning07
    @PKWinning07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel like the set going game 5 actually made it a bigger win for Zain, just to show that he can clutch these out

  • @KenShinta174
    @KenShinta174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Come on no one is going to talk about this 16:45 ? That’s the craziest and most amazing play I have ever seen

  • @CheapShotFail
    @CheapShotFail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    As hype as Mango - Leffen is, I think Mango - Zain is starting to be my favorite matchup in the game. These sets here and at Big House were insane.

    • @ThatWolfArrow
      @ThatWolfArrow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree. Personally, I'd also throw in Zain/Hbox. Seeing two patient players with spacing oriented characters is super nerve racking but also super fascinating.

    • @CheapShotFail
      @CheapShotFail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThatWolfArrow Agree completely. Ever since Zain has started taking sets off of Hbox he's refined the matchup a ton for Marth and it's amazing to watch.

    • @Dee_micl
      @Dee_micl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rewatching this 2 years later. I agree

  • @matthewaitkenfilms9477
    @matthewaitkenfilms9477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This set is insane, theyre both incredible!

  • @TheTechnopider
    @TheTechnopider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    16:13 that's the most melee shit I've ever seen

  • @falco830
    @falco830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Remember PC Chris vs Ken...
    Now it’s history repeating itself at a much higher level...

    • @plannedtuna8293
      @plannedtuna8293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That ain’t falco

    • @Itsssmatt_
      @Itsssmatt_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PlannedTuna wombo combo

  • @numbby1140
    @numbby1140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    honestly, this is one of the best commentated sets i've ever watched in melee.
    so much info on the matchup

    • @ADavidJohnson
      @ADavidJohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They’re so good at informing you about the matchup, the narrative around it, and the emotional flow of the match
      It’s really incredible how well Scar and Toph commentate, especially together

  • @shaaktee1941
    @shaaktee1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:08 mang0 is secretly drinking beer.

  • @speedyhoneybear
    @speedyhoneybear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    WOW! Sets like these make me wish i was fast enough to pick up melee again. Zain is so fun to watch!

  • @chriscastle1629
    @chriscastle1629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "He might be playing what I'm saying!" one of my favorite scar lines

  • @TrogDH
    @TrogDH ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:11 is one of the coolest, flashiest interactions in melee history

  • @TheObicobiHD
    @TheObicobiHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an *AMAZING* set, woow that last match was insane!! Zain!! Zain's Marth living after covering all of Falco's options 😭💖 GGs Mang0!! He played so very well 👏

  • @MonjeFuti
    @MonjeFuti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    That was inZain

  • @MarquezVincent
    @MarquezVincent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    4:25 This guys it literally is only saying "Yeah" xD

  • @Gr8saiyaman88
    @Gr8saiyaman88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:20 “I love the Lord”
    - Bobby Scar

  • @sadied0g
    @sadied0g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scar says Zain is new to genesis top 8. He really never got top 8 before, and wins it the first time he does? DAMN

  • @OrlotPiuri
    @OrlotPiuri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mango vs Zain is the new mango vs leffen

  • @Oscar797
    @Oscar797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Falco vs Marth is an awesome matchup. Between these 2 it’s even better. What a sick set

  • @andrewkibler9384
    @andrewkibler9384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mango threw it away with the side bs at the end

    • @100mangroper
      @100mangroper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      there is never a right recovery, he lost neutral to get put in those situations, nothing mattered after that point

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@100mangroper yep. Zain covered literally every option falco had. Nothing mango could have done. If you watch after those jabs, Zain even runs off the stage to cover a potential up-b from mango. Literally perfect option coverage from Zain.

  • @maxgurman633
    @maxgurman633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Is using forward B a new idea?"
    No, thats bobby big ballz

    • @NiteCyper
      @NiteCyper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Using it to escape to/edge cancel on top platform, more specifically. Mango uses it several times in this run at Genesis. No, it's not new but it is niche. I personally associate it most with Axe, but that might be more because of Pikachu tech: Quick Attack from ground level to edge cancel on top platform.

  • @linebeck1381
    @linebeck1381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t help but laugh every time I see Zain in the Mogul Moves hoodie.

  • @malkavian6275
    @malkavian6275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The post-game stats are SO SICK

  • @quesote20
    @quesote20 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the pinnacle of Marth - Falco

  • @giantclaw138
    @giantclaw138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is by far my favorite Jojo episode

  • @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls
    @AceVenturaWhenNatureCalls 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    3:53 - 4:09 LOL

    • @ejcandrin
      @ejcandrin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Falco isn't top tier though

  • @oldtownscouts3712
    @oldtownscouts3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's funny after such an intense, technical, god level set it ends with a simple jab. A button for the win.

  • @hungryluma27
    @hungryluma27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THAT OFF STAGE KILL ZAIN GOT WITH THE LOW EDGE GUARD WAS THE SICKEST THING IVE EVER SEEN

  • @spaarkk6502
    @spaarkk6502 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was the real grand finals

  • @Goreblender
    @Goreblender 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's mandatory that every time someone hits with multiple hit of falco fair, the commentators talk about how much damage it does

  • @Skelen
    @Skelen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2020 this game still rockin!! Love it and the people!! Let's keep the love flowin with some trash talk 😁👍

  • @Rookums
    @Rookums 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When mango hit the phantom back air in game three it was all over.

  • @anomonomity
    @anomonomity 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    for those wondering, i’m pretty sure if you get hit out of up B without using your jump you lose your double jump

  • @benji417
    @benji417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mang0 wishes he had Zain's Mogul Moves.

  • @F0rger513
    @F0rger513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Boy the Blur hate is real to extend this long in Melee lol

    • @areebmasoodi8932
      @areebmasoodi8932 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha facts. Why the hate on him I don't understand

  • @Noahtheorigianl
    @Noahtheorigianl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    production value so highhhh

  • @chanegun
    @chanegun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Praying this is grand finals at G8

  • @RMahna94
    @RMahna94 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zain capitalizing on Mang0 being Mang0. Good ass set.

  • @hmcglouf
    @hmcglouf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was such a great set

  • @JoshT4life
    @JoshT4life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zain the new god

  • @0Enigmatic0
    @0Enigmatic0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fucking knew Zain would be best in the world. The one summit a while ago where he was getting some crazy pseudo chain grab di mixups I knew he would lab his way to number 1. Now it's how long his reign will be

  • @Snowballsage
    @Snowballsage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:42 I don’t play melee but even I could tell that he was dead once he double jumped

  • @Mallwan
    @Mallwan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    one of the bests sets for sure

  • @matthewaitkenfilms9477
    @matthewaitkenfilms9477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And zain gies on to win it all, zain is insane

  • @thor10001
    @thor10001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss melee.

  • @eddiestilll
    @eddiestilll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    marth vs falco never gets old!! :)

  • @Mr.Monky420
    @Mr.Monky420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You think Zain has the potential to be the next Ken or is this game too crowded with too many Gods that all keep winning tournaments decently evenly enough to where Zain could even consistently hold a reign?

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zain is really starting to come into his own as far as consistency goes. During his rise in '17 and '18 he had some really high peaks but definitely still struggled with consistency... And in '19 kinda seemed like he hit a wall or plateau as people started to figure him out... But at the end of 19 and starting here in 2020 he seems like he's starting to get a lock on being consistently great.

    • @chrisp2757
      @chrisp2757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s all about the Marth. He jabs so fast and covers so much real estate with the sword. Then turns on the power with a flick of the wrist.
      I think it’s incredible that Marth hasn’t been more widely used.

  • @aidenhastings6341
    @aidenhastings6341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They didn’t know up B eats your double jump?

  • @chuckwellington3307
    @chuckwellington3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Melee is so much more exciting than Ultimate tbh.
    I can't stand Fox for the love of it, but I'd lie if I said the games aren't super exciting to watch at least.
    People can actually go off-stage and secure kills in this game, something they stopped giving a shit about after Brawl.

    • @oldtownscouts3712
      @oldtownscouts3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's plenty of offstage kills in Ultimate on a ton of the cast the problem is a lot of the characters that are good in that game are so difficult and risky to go off stage against that it's not worth it when ledge trapping is safer and often more rewarding. I agree melee is more exciting to watch overall, but LAN mkLeo is incredibly entertaining in Ultimate IMO, along with a dozen or so other top players. Camp-ridden defensive gameplay has dominated the past three smash games for sure however.

  • @falco830
    @falco830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Choo Choo ALL ABORD THE ZAIN TRAIN!!!

  • @noodlespwn42
    @noodlespwn42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @16:55 why did he do that

    • @gonzo_o_o
      @gonzo_o_o 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that was the set, I think. In that position, Mango should have hunkered down in the pit and absolutely refused to get routed from there. Instead he put himself in a spot to get launched by Zain and ultimately KO'd

  • @eelllliiootttt
    @eelllliiootttt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:34 what is a phantom

    • @DarkxNemesis
      @DarkxNemesis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EJ Maggs When the game doesnt register a hit connecting but still makes the sound effect and such. Like a phantom rest from a puff where it makes the loud “clank” but the player doesnt go anywhere and puff falls asleep giving the player a free punish

    • @saraskyline8331
      @saraskyline8331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It happens when you're a few frames off of a hit

    • @Delajoyason
      @Delajoyason 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be specific it’s when you’re a pixel off your hit, so it’s the in between of actually landing your hit and missing. That’s why Toph calls it bonus damage but there’s no knock back

  • @madridaburto
    @madridaburto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fucking amazing!!!!!lets goooooo

  • @NintenJoe
    @NintenJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was over a year ago :(

  • @pogd740
    @pogd740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hoping for the rematch genesis 8

  • @haydonc5256
    @haydonc5256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All of the Mango fans in the comments making excuses for Mango losing, it’s really annoying. Zain won fair and square, Zain was the better player this set.

  • @nathaniel5956
    @nathaniel5956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:53

  • @noodletribunal9793
    @noodletribunal9793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:35 "i think 'they' was him" XD

  • @shiv604
    @shiv604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People complaining about PS, yet no one says jack shit about FD lmao

  • @darkbatu
    @darkbatu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is epic.

  • @foxy2348
    @foxy2348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FD BAN?

  • @rpenguin12345
    @rpenguin12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what shoes? were at home now and i think he's wearing socks!

  • @178laaleros
    @178laaleros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And mango on his twitch stream said zain is never going to beat him alright buddy keep saying that

    • @saraskyline8331
      @saraskyline8331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      nick knickle when did he say that?

  • @kennyfernandez2866
    @kennyfernandez2866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are the Falco lasers being returned by Marth's shielding?

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a tech called power shielding. It basically turns your shield into a reflector if you can time it right.

    • @kennyfernandez2866
      @kennyfernandez2866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jjrambles683 Damn. Didn't know. With any projectile?

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennyfernandez2866 yep, you see it a lot against falcos cause he's one of the few top tiers, aside from peach, that can projectile camp.

    • @emperorlokire7648
      @emperorlokire7648 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JJ Rambles I just wish this was in ultimate.

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emperorlokire7648 honestly yeah, it would change the meta so drastically if projectile characters just couldn't spam because their weapons would just be reflected back at them and would make the game much faster paced

  • @ForrestBreeze
    @ForrestBreeze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    where was m2k in this tourney?

    • @NintenJoe
      @NintenJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      M2k doesn't enter melee anymore, instead focusing on his book

  • @bluepeacemaker
    @bluepeacemaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It feels like Mango is the better player, however Zain's punish game is something else and can get a stock out of each punish, it seems. That must be scary to play against

  • @pudgeypig3521
    @pudgeypig3521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I SEE ZAIN REPPING THAT MOGUL MOVES. LUDWIG.GG FELLAS

  • @67254215415413
    @67254215415413 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:26 and Scar acts like Alex' impression of him isn't spot on

  • @jetstreamattackhirot
    @jetstreamattackhirot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:45 What music?

  • @Greyhound33
    @Greyhound33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The pee pee forward air

  • @omfgacceptmyname
    @omfgacceptmyname 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    geniseae

  • @nathanlabrin2392
    @nathanlabrin2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why are they playing on those old TVs?

    • @yomommamonkey
      @yomommamonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nathan Labrynth can’t tell if your joking lol. It reduces lag time.

    • @nathanlabrin2392
      @nathanlabrin2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eden Shorrocks Alr cool thank you

    • @ChrisTomatoPie
      @ChrisTomatoPie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yomommamonkey what lag are you talking about? im just curios, too. its a LAN event and dont modern monitors have less reaction time?

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisTomatoPie if played on a PC and emulator that was set up to actually run at higher response times.. then yes but this is a Nintendo sanctioned event and that wouldn't be allowed.

    • @negativesplits06
      @negativesplits06 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sageosaka I’ve been playing Melee on a plasma TV, which does have a little bit of lag. Now it’s a bitch trying to get used to playing Melee on Dolphin since it doesn’t have that lag.

  • @cross25011990
    @cross25011990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    it would be so AMAZING , if another stage would be come in neutral.. 5 are not a lot and battlefield / or pokemon stadium partly sucks

    • @noahbaden90
      @noahbaden90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, Nintendo should really patch in more stages. I'm starting to think they've stopped supporting Melee.

    • @chadchadwick3401
      @chadchadwick3401 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh? Battlefield is like the best stage lol

  • @mdigregorio15
    @mdigregorio15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mango land

  • @The_Secure_Juan
    @The_Secure_Juan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Commenting 101
    commentator 1: when Zain attacks ...... etc
    commentator 2: yeah
    commentator 1: and when Mango attacks this way you always see the......
    commentator 2: yeah
    commentator 1: shout out to our sponsor WATER! Stay hydrated kids!
    commentator 2: yeah

  • @il100374
    @il100374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    played a lil sloppy and tooo aggressive at times. still a dope set

  • @apaul7502
    @apaul7502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wonder if people feel bad beating mango. mango is who most people want to win, so whoever beats him knows that theyre ruining a lot of peoples days

    • @Vomer0
      @Vomer0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine traveling to events and having to pay for that as well as investing all your time into getting good at the game. I imagine it'd be easier than you'd think

  • @KittSpiken
    @KittSpiken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What the hell is Scar wearing and how is it KILLING the game?

  • @KG66610
    @KG66610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mango loses because of Stadium transformation, yikes...

    • @mamonsin
      @mamonsin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean Zain was all over him before the transformation happened

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can tell Zain was down to wait it out.... Mango is the one that rushed in and got punished for it.

  • @iaimen865
    @iaimen865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nooo marth winning is always sad...

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spoilers

    • @tomcruise7481
      @tomcruise7481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As a Marth main
      Fuck you.

    • @bluepeacemaker
      @bluepeacemaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      No, dude. ICs winning is usually the saddest thing in Melee

    • @iaimen865
      @iaimen865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Greyhound33 yes but salt

    • @Greyhound33
      @Greyhound33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Aimen nah you salt. bic boi

  • @MasterNinjaXz
    @MasterNinjaXz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zain is playing out if his mind, but Mango shouldve won. The Mr Smith's were getting scared bro, he was turning it on so fucking hard towards the end, but had a true Mango ending, choked off a reflected laser and missed waveshine.

  • @Michael-cg5qn
    @Michael-cg5qn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    People still play this game? Golly they gotta move on cause there is literally a new smash bros game and all the characters don't play the same or the same characters get picked all the fucking time