How to Fix Latency in Cakewalk by Bandlab
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Freezing is great. I got in the habit of freezing pretty much any virtual instrument or tracks with high-latency effects (like amp sims). It's quick and undoable! Right-click the freeze button, choose 'Freeze Options' and you can choose whether to include effects in the freeze. This was not the default behavior when I started using it, not sure about new installations of Cakewalk. Also extend the 'Freeze tail duration' if sounds like crashes ringing out are getting cut off. Thanks Mike!
Nice tip Terry! I didn't know about the right click options :)
Since I work completely in virtual instruments at the moment, I do this every time before starting the mix. I'll first bounce all the track MIDI clips to one clip, then extend the head of each track clip to the beginning of the timeline. That way all of the frozen audio files (which are rendered to the Audio project folder) start at the same place for archiving. Once that's done, I close Cakewalk and reopen the project (which loads really fast) just to make sure all the program memory is cleared out and recovered. Then I'll start my mix.
Ooh! Didn't know about freeze tail duration. As someone who likes things drenched in reverb that'll be a very handy setting I think.
Can you or Mike please help me. When I un-freeze certain virtual instruments the track moves/shifts out of time. I keep having to realign the track with the rest of the song tracks. It's super frustrating. Can someone please explain why this is happening and what to do about it . Thanks guys!
Disconnect from the internet when you are recording music. Some people don't think about this but there are apps that run in the background that people don't know about. these apps check for newer versions of the software. In the past, I have ruined good recordings simply because the Windows operating system was updating and I was unaware of this going on while I was trying to record music. You can turn off the update feature but the simplest way to fix it is to just disconnect from the internet. While the computer is on the internet the operating system will use system resources that could be used for recording.
Use Task manager to close down programs that run in the background and programs that start when you turn on your computer. You got to be careful here because many of these are needed by the operating system. You can shut things off like google crash handler, Adobe startup apps, update apps, print spooler, and Microsoft office. You will be amazed at what this does for latency. They will all come back when you reboot your computer.
I don't understand people who dislike videos like this. Mike's information is so valuable.
I think there a is a subset of people who go out of their way to try to sabotage channels by disliking every video they watch.
I switched the driver from MME to ASIO and it INSTANTLY fixed latency issues with all my instruments! Thank you Thank you Thank you sir!
Super helpful. Solved my latency issues. Actually, when it comes to Cakewalk tutorials, yours are the best. Thanks!
As always, very informative, well choreographed and extremely well-polished! Thank you for sharing your knowledge...especially using Cakewalk!
This video actually helped out a lot! Just wanted to take the time to thank you for your work as i am no longer dealing with this problem and can record with a peace of mind. Thank you so much!
Thank you for your videos!!!It's a big reason why I stayed with Cakewalk and still love it since 1997. Keep on Mike!!!
Worldclass quality Tutorial on improving audio production performance in any DAW. Thanks Mike! You are a Star!
Hey..thanks for this! I just started using cakewalk and was having troubles with latency, your video helped a lot, but even more you gave me a much better oversight over the issues and how to get around them, very informative. I hit the like button! Thanks so much. Very well done!.
dude your a god , i just got my focusrite and it had hella latency and this just fixed everything. Thanks so much man !!!
Mike, I want to take a minute and thank you for your content. You took me from Lost in the Sauce all the way to Creative Sauce in just a couple of days. I've been pouring over your tutorials, and they helped me more than I can express recording music for my channel. I still have a lot to learn, but you have a lot to teach, so I'm going to keep watching!! Thank you, and CHEERS! 🍻
Putting Windows 10 in Airplane Mode also relieves a lot of pressure on the CPU and is easy to go in and out of...
I definitely have to try this, thanks so much for the tip!! 😀👍
Wow. Never thought Of that. Windows networking bloat - what a surprise.
It will probably do windows updates in the bg while you’re trying to record a band :/
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Great video man! Thank you for all of this help!
Thanks Mike! This is such a useful channel. Enjoy your lessons specially since I use Cakewalk as my primary DAW.
LOVE your videos. You have such a great way of explaining things and showing things with just the right amount of "getting to it" but still hitting the supporting information necessary for real understanding.
Thanks Joe! Appreciated :)
Thank you so much I did what you did and it fixed my problem straight away, I didn't think it would be that easy, I had my studio set up then moved house's and then I started getting the delay once I set it back up
Finally a good video about this problem. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for explaining these issues so precisely. Solved my problem!
Freezing was a great tip! Thank you so much. Love your channel!!
Thank you! Quick fix by changing the driver mode. Worked like a charm.
Great info! You're the best, Mike!
Still relatively new to recording and especially using cakewalk and have only encountered these latency issues in the last few weeks, this video has come out at just the right time! Really helpful stuff!!
Fantastic! I hope it helps :)
Thank you very much, Excellent content. I use Cakewalk when I am not working, and your channel helped me out so many times.
An excellent tutorial! I would have been discouraged if I hadn't stumbled across your tutorial to improve cakewalk latency issues. Thank you for your comprehensible instructions, very clear, concise and easily understood. : o )
Thanks for the info Mike. I'm going to adjust these settings on my setup and see how they work for my system.
Very useful tips indeed, thanks!
I am still so new to using Cakewalk after only using Garageband for so many years. I have been upgrading my computer and peripherals the last few months for better mixing, recording, and video editing. And this week I finally got a new microphone (MOVO vsm-7) and my first ever audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen). I've been having trouble setting it up and using it all day lol...but your video was so helpful in better understanding latency. And as I'm an amateur music mixer and still learning cakewalk as I go with each project...wow..I can't believe I did not know what that little snowflake icon was!!! I can't wait to try that tip out! I definitely subscribed, so I can come here for more tips and tricks! Keep up the content!
Yet another great video Mike! Always love when you sneak back into Cakewalk land from StudioOne!! 🤣
Lol, like putting on an old pair of slippers!
Thanks again Mike! Very helpful.
Ok what? I was just looking for advice on this two days ago, and now there's a video on it. Thank you for this.
Mike your a total star mate !!!! 🤩 gonna put one of your T-shirt’s on my Christmas list 😀👍 thanks soo much dude !! 🕺🕺🕺
This helped me a ton. Thank you so much!
Oh yeah 🙂 This is what i was looking for... thanks!
You give very good practical info, that is very use full for beginners
thank you so much bloke, literally could not use my focus rite for 2 years. much appreciated!!
Thank you for the great helpful tutorial
You're the best friend i never knew i had. 🙌 saludos, hermano 🇵🇷🇦🇺
Thanks so much! I normally used Soynd Forge and Cool Pro Edit the past decade. It never had latency, but upgraded to Cakewalk amd Pro Tools. I spent hours chopping vocals trying to match rhythm and wondered why it was off tempo. I appreciate it 🙏
Great video, Mike. I stumbled on another method of removing latency while recording vocals or guitars. I arm a track for recording in Cakewalk with the echo turned off. Then I open up the standalone version of IK Multimedia's Mix Box and load the effects I want to hear. Then I go back to Cakewalk and start recording. I can then hear my Cakewalk tracks and whatever I have going into Mix Box at the same time with zero latency. It is glorious. I wanted to share that with you and your viewers. You might make a video of that process, sometime. Thanks for all you do for us independent music producers! Mike Wilhoit, Dothan, Alabama, USA
Thank you very much Mike!!
That "Pinao" track brings it all together.
man these videos are really really helpful
Great video!
You are the best Mike !!!
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Mike, you excelled yourself with this video! Great topic and even greater explanation!
Question on the Task Manager measurements: I expected that freezing would reduce CPU and memory consumption during playback. Why does it help while no audio is playing? Do all the plug-ins process silence the whole time?
Thanks a lot for your time!!
You're awesome. Thanks Mike.
One of your better videos!
Glad to see you saying things I have often said: it is helpful to think of the buffer setting as a DYNAMIC setting that changes per project, or at different phases of the project. Recording live guitar DI with FX? Later on when you are editing the parts? Set it higher. It would be helpful to have a dynamic setting on the Console - Feature request?
An additional tip for the latency part. If you apply the delay timing concept here, you will get the same results. Anything above 10 milliseconds will become identifiable by the human ear. Anything that's 10 or fewer milliseconds will not be distinguishable. In essence, all you really need your computer to do is hit 10 milliseconds for latency, and then you're good. Just balance that out with sampling. There's a super old and classic 80's/90's looking video on TH-cam called the art of mixing. It teaches this concept along with a lot of other mixing ideas extremely well!
thanks for this advice.
do you put the sample number (from the latency page in the sync section to line up your recorded audio?
10ms is a fast time. Creative Sauce didn't even have that time and he has a professional setup.
Grrrrr...! Latency...! That freezing tip is priceless. As my tracks get more complicated and FX heavy the stuttering has increased during playback and is infuriating. Off now to try some freezing. Thanks as always.
Awesome! Thanks for the tips. ;)
I have found that the best way to deal with latency without rearranging your computer settings every time you want to record is "OUTBOARD MONITORING", this is a little more advanced but, it really isn't that difficult. You just need a good interface with more than two outputs and a decent mixer, and this is not as expensive as it may sound.
Another great video thanks Mike. Freezing tracks is something I’ve pretty much always done but your explanation is great. As you have said some plugins really create issues with latency particularly any linear phase stuff. Also I found particularly Ozone 9 drags things down but being aware of it is all that is needed. Bypass until needed. Anyway thanks again. Tony
Cheers Tony, always nice to hear from you. Hope you are well :)
Terrific!!! tks!!!
Thank you very much!
Awesome again!!!
Thank you for your service. Sorted a novice user right out
Thanks for the Videos! I’d love to see one on Pan Law
Thank you!
I am just starting my "home recording adventure" and after watching some of your videos about Cakewalk, I abandoned Reaper. I really appreciate your ability to explain complicated things in a clear and interesting way like Freezing for example, I keep watching :))
I am trying to decide myself. With Reaper being so affordable and acclaimed, what made you choose Cakewalk? Can you please list a few reasons? Thanks man!
Nice tips.
This is super helpful for us who can't afford i9-9900Ks and UA interfaces! Latency management. I dig it.
Including me!
Cheers :)
Thanks Pops, problem solved!
Thanks a ton for the Freeze-unfreeze tip..... Never knew what that was.
Even following you since a long time, it's always interesting to view your videos once again.
Even now that I saw this video now the second time, I did learn something new today. Thanks for this
For instance, as well I found you recorded there an instrument I never heard about, the pinao 😊.
Seems a brazilian one. I really would be absolutely curious to know how it sounds😊.
Naturally I got it mate. 😊
Have a nice new years eve party.
Thanks!
Awesome! I could not get my synth to work and starting fiddeling with the settings (turns out I just had forgot to click on the "volume"-button...) and when I used my guitar there was major latency problems, but the quick fix was the ASIO... I had something else there. Thank you so much!
Killer video as usual Mike...atency is just a big o'l PAIN IN DA ASS 4 SURE... But ,ALL these are GREAT TIPS to help out with it . You still my fav. CAKEWALK GURU!!!! (LOL LOL)..I always promote ya EVERY chance I get to.....Keep em coming..STAY SAFE...& GOD BLESS Man.... PEACE
In my case, 4gb ram of old pc seriously. And all of these tips and steps is what im doing and it's super life saver...
Thank you very very much
In windows you can use the task manager - details tab to set the application priority to high or realtime. This helps alot.
Thanks ❤
Definitely one of the best presented so far Mike - you'll have to be careful otherwise you might get to be slick ;-) Seriously, I've been using ASIO4 All with an onboard soundcard and it works fine for me - but I don't do any audio recording and I am only a hobbyist so have not felt the need for an external audio unit. I get acceptable latency with VSTi's so generally happy. Over at the Cakewalk Forum it has been suggested to use WASAPI but I couldn't get any sound out of that (probably my fault as I may not have set everything up properly!). Do you or any of the team here have any thoughts on that
Thx so much
So refreshing to have such an informative video that doesn’t try to throw in ‘funny’ edits, or tangents or waffling.
Looking forward to trying this on my limited setup tomorrow. Latency has been driving me crazy.
Great video (even if it doesn’t end up working for me!)
So incredibly helpful as always, thank you! Would you mind sharing what you use to record these videos? Having trouble finding something that will record audio directly from CW along with my mic. Would truly appreciate it if you have the time. Thanks again!
Another very useful video Mike. I bought a new computer at the end of last year and went from Windows 7 (which I always liked!) to Windows 10 and had more problems initially with latency with the new PC than I ever had with the old. Anyway I managed to sort it out, mainly by doing what you have suggested and playing around with the settings. However, changing the buffer size when mixing the finished recording is something I had never thought of. A brilliant idea and something I shall do in future. One thing I am thinking of doing is upgrading my RAM from 8gb to 16gb. Is this something you would recommend?
Great explanation and very useful advice. One question, what about freezing when using aux tracks and patch points?
Question for you. ASIO is two decades old, and so are most DAWs and audio interfaces. How come we can never bring the latency at the minimum setting without the clicks and pops? Why is there always a trade-off, even with a powerful system? Haven't software developers and hardware manufacturers found a way around this? Lots of questions. Sorry! I've always wondered...
hi Mike, thanks for this valuable information on latency. Just a newbie in Cakewalk and a lot of learning curves and frustrations. Have not reached the vocal recording and still figuring out audio interface on my guitar and keyboard. Yesterday just received my audio interface Komplete Audio 2 and another thing to figure out. Decided to your channel because your methods of teaching the technical things seems to work for me. Let you know how things workout in one of your videos. Great tutorial. - allan
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with the latest versions of Banlab cakewalk 2020.9 I am getting a lot of pops and clicks once I have plugins on (Kontakt, ozone etc). older songs where I never had any issues now have the pops and clicks on them. Any suggestions or other folks getting the same issue?
I do have a suggestion Mike. Do an Export Quick Mic of what you'd be listening to when you want to add a guitar track for instance. Then open a New Cakewalk project at the same tempo of course. Make sure you start your recording at "0". When finished, export your recorded track then import it to your project.
Mike-I hope you are well! Great vid, as always. Question for anyone out there- Mike pulled up something like a "task manager" or "resource monitor" that showed CPU usage, RAM usage etc. Beautiful, but where do I find this?? Is it a windows thing, an external plugin? I couldn't find anything in the Cakewalk documentation (which is completely useless! And why we love Mike!) about this being part of Cakewalk, not even in modules. Thanks for any help!
Thanks for the tips Mike, Helped me no end. I'm thinking that the guy who clicked the Thumbs Down button must have done it by accident.
10:50 When Mike suggests to change these settings during the course of a project he means BUFFER SIZE only. Do not change bit depth or sample rate during a project. If you have weird stuff happening, like audio playing slightly fast or slow, then you can try playing with sample rate to reset audio.
Thanks for clarifying this Craig:)
@@CreativeSauce I just suffered an audio engine dropout and I'm unable to change the buffer size as suggested by the code in such cases. The option to adjust the buffer size doesn't work. Please suggest a way around it. Thank you!
i already done recording my vocals , and if i playback my vocal is sometimes falling behind (means my vocal isn't catching ip with the beat). i recorded it everytime and if i turn on the echo i can hear my voice is actually in sync with the beats , but when playback time it isn't
Lifesaver
Hi Mike, can you do a video dedicated to quantizing/audiosnap in cakewalk? I would like to fix some minor timing issues but when I quantize an audio track (not midi), the audio sounds weird (like it is skipping). Thanks for your videos!
OMG... Thank you for this video. A million times. Freezing the tracks fixed everything. Now I have to drive into the details, explain my situation, and ask a questions If anyone can answer and help others please reply.
I was trying to redo a directly recorded piano track from my electronic piano. I didn't like the sound but I didn't have the versatility of midi tracks available to change it so I wanted to redo the track using midi. The latency made it impossible. I thought 'that's strange, I didn't have such latency before'. I created a new project and confirmed that I don't really have a latency problem. If i delete all of the tracks the latency goes away. Freezing the tracks fixed all of that.
So my questions are...
-What is the payoff? I presume that freezing a track is using up storage space to pre-render the tracks. Pre-rendering several tracks uses a lot of storage space. Is this accurate?
-If the previous question was accurate, does unfreezing a track free up that space? Or does it use up space every time you make a change and freeze again?
-What effects does freezing a track have on other aspects of the mix? Are there situations where freezing a track stops providing information to other tracks or bus's in the mix?
EDIT: And again. Thank you. This video didn't only confirm my thoughts as I attempted to fix my problem, but ended with EXACTLY what I was looking for. I can now move on to creating music instead of digging through forums/settings because of a hangup. (I had about 25 tracks. Only 12 were necessary so I deleted the others but the problem persisted.)
Annoyingly I have an issue where when I record into bandlab it plays back in time and in sync with everything else. But if I then do some more recordings it's then out of sync by a small amount but noticeable. If I refresh the preferences it then goes back to normal. I am using wasapi shared. What's my solution? Use asio?
Cool video. What about busses and such for common effects?
Thanks for the video! Can I ask you what mic stand for the desk you use in the video, please?:)
Please see if you can find out why the Cakewalk program crashes whenever the Max control knob in the ProChannel is selected.
Thanks
I have what might be a silly question. You can't get the buffer size to be at an absolute zero (the fastest in Cakewalk is 8 samples of delay) so is the only way to reach a zero latency recording to cut 8 samples from the beginning of whatever you've recorded each time?
Thanks for the tops. I found this video two years after you put it up. You mentioned that certain plugins on the Master Bus could cause latency. Sure enough, when I disabled Ozone 10 Essentials on the master bus, the latency went away.
forgot to mention, the latency was the keyboard input.