Whats funny is I thought the sticks would be the one thing that gets improved. The sticks on the V1 are good, but a little stiff for my tastes. Guess it's better than the V2's!
We felt the exact same way. Sticks are nice but a little stiff. We just thought it was a strange move. We do like the new shoulder buttons and triggers but the sticks are unfortunate
Well the first edition is definitely better but for the second they tried not be exclusive to just certain devices which I think is great. Only issue I see is how much cheaper the plastics seem on it. I'm currently using my kunai 3 with my rog 5s pro but will be switching phones and this was an option for me but may not be now.
Possibly! It all depends on how big the external cooler is. The back of the Kishi isn’t too thick but it does go directly across the middle of the phone
Super psyched about the V2 so I’ve looked at a number of reviews. Every one keeps saying “oh the sticks are so switch like” As someone who has two kids who are tough on controllers, I’ve used multiple joy cons, never saw this mythical “drift” that people talk about. Our family has the OG switch and the OLED. Zero drift!
I was just telling Adam the same thing. While we were mostly commenting on feel of these sticks (which is totally preference) I myself think the whole drift situation is blown way out of proportion. I own 3 switch pro controllers and 8 Joy cons for my family and none of them have ever had any drift!
@@CompleteGeekTV I do think the v1 is a great controller. But as an iOS user I don’t know if the v2 is worth the upgrade. My only gripe with v1 is the flimsy way it expands. The left side can be very loose, especially on smaller phones. So is the razor backbone…. Uhh v2 worth the upgrade? Time will tell
@@Danarchy3 I have the backbone and it’s like switch joysticks but I have these skull and co joysticks put it on and even if the v2 comes out on iOS I’ll still keep my backbone and PlayStation had there own backbone controller now it has a ps5 design but it’s the same thing as the regular one
@@ghosttiee9212 yeah I saw the ps version, a neat paint job and the buttons matching the PlayStation is interesting but not enough to make me buy the ps version when I just spent $100 on the OG backbone
My Razer Kishi 1 just died as the dpad stopped working properly. Lately I have fallen in love with you guys videos. I commented yesterday on your video of the Gamesir vs Backbone vs Kishi v2 and said I would get a Gamesir v3 after that. HOWEVER, now after watching this I don't know anymore... For me personally what I like most is less clicky A,B,X,Y buttons, Analog Triggers, and how easy the device is to transport as I used to put my Kishi v1 in my pocket all the time. Do you guys have any suggestions or help you can offer? I will be in the market for a new controller very quick. My gaming life has now been put on hold unfortunately due to dpad issues...
We appreciate the support and glad that you've been enjoying the videos. This is a tough one because the new Kishi V2 is also clicky and we just had every one on the team hold both and click them to see which had more of a click and everyone said they think the Kishi V2 has the loudest click. It's still very compact, has a better dpad, and they best shoulder and triggers buttons so it's still a solid device but clicky buttons and worse sticks. We hope that helps and understand this is a hard choice. Definitely let us know if you have any other questions as we are happy to help.
@@CompleteGeekTV I actually do have another question. I noticed Moga is making an Xbox Liscened remote (Moga xp7-x) Have you guys looked into this remote? Maybe this would be best for me? Any thoughts?
@@1ibur24 glad you mentioned it! We actually just got that controller and reviewed it! As long as you are okay with it being Bluetooth instead of a direct connection we definitely think it’s the best of the controllers we’ve reviewed so far! MOGA XP7-X Plus Mobile Gaming Controller! WE WERE SHOCKED! PowerA th-cam.com/video/PZpszClRS7g/w-d-xo.html
I've done a ton of thinking on this over the past while. I've decided to go with the Moga Controller over the Kishi v2. I like that the Moga is made by Xbox, or at least sponsored by. I also like that the Moga Controller can connect to other devices besides my Android and that it comes with a 2 year warranty. Most of the others come with only 1. Like you said, if I charge both my phone and the device when the phone needs a recharge by then maybe I'll need a recharge in the moga but I probably won't need much more charge. As an added bonus I can possibly use this with my tech 21 case which is thinner. Release date for the Moga can't come quick enough! I appreciate your videos though a ton and all the pros and cons of each. I love how much you guys like the grips on the Moga Controller.
@@1ibur24 the Moga is released now. We bought ours off Amazon. We weren’t sent it or given it or anything we just paid to overnight it so we could review it as soon as possible. I’ll find a link and add it here if that helps! Moga XP7-X Plus: amzn.to/3undNWm
спасибо за обзор парни, я планирую поменять свой kishi v1 на v2 потому что мой современный телефон имеет очень узкие рамки и kishi v1 закрывает часть экрана. кажется, у kishi v2 нет такой проблемы
Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it and glad you shared your feedback. Was there anything in particular you didn't like about it for emulation? Might be good information for others to hear when trying to make a purchasing decision.
@@CompleteGeekTV whenever I turned the joystick in any direction the character was moving so SLOWLY for about 3 seconds every time. Even for older games on SNES and Gameboy it happens too. So sad to be honest.
@@youraveragedillon5958 It this happens with an specific emulator or just anyone that you've tried? I was interested on Kishi V1 just for retro emulators, but your comments makes me wonder if I need to keep looking
I’ve had my backbone for so long and no drift yet at all and I hope not I hope more controllers have magnetic joysticks then but the backbone is good I use skull and co joysticks
@@knello15 it got drift and the joysticks got loose and I’ve been sticking with the kishi v2 for iOS and I haven’t had any issues at all tbh it has alittle more range on the v2 the v2 is better then the backbone
Yeah pretty bold comment. He may need to elaborate on that as in drift or what not. It's not an opinion we all agree with but I believe this was more to say that the sticks are not as nice as the previous V1 model in our opinion. Something we all agree with. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Well it is for iOS now and I refunded my backbone because drifting problems again idk why I got this controller for iOS and it’s coming this Monday I can’t wait
Sorry to hear about the drifting issues. That's very frustrating and appreciate you sharing that feedback with us all.. We hope you enjoy the V2 and we would love to hear back from you on what you think.
Yes! I had it before the subscription and the app was cool but once they came out with the subscription I never signed up for it. They let past owners have it for free for a little while but I don’t think they do now. Either way, it’s at least a year since we did this video and I still use my backbone all the time and I do t use the app at all.
PRO TIP:....What many people forget or dont realize is that you can also connect your samsung phone via DEX and play your emulator games on your smart tv wirelessly which makes it even more badass with the controller.💪😎 Havnt seen any videos on that.
Very good point and great feature. I'm not sure if it's not discussed more because it's more specific to the device than the controller itself but I definitely think it's something that would be good to show people because we agree that it's something we think many don't realize you can do. Thank you for the comment and we appreciate your support.
Yes you can! It works just fine on the iPhone with the official PlayStation app. For android phones you will need to download an app called “PSPlay Unlimited PS Remote Play” that app allows third party controllers to work with ps Remote play on Android Phones
hmm, interesting. Really not a fan of the joycon like design of the sticks, makes it feel less like a controller meant for AAA gamepass streaming. Wondering if the 3rd will be a mix of the 2 designs
Yeah that was biggest downside for sure. I know our comparison video is coming soon and you should definitely check it out! If the sticks are most important to you, Spoiler alert, the Gamesir X3 has by far the best sticks! It’s not even close, but sadly it falls short in some other areas. That’s why I feel like the comparison will be helpful and everyone can see which will be best for them based in their preferences before buying.
Save your money and buy a Kishi V1. The build style for these new controllers makes no sense. They're supposed to be MOBILE. Now they're fixed at this weird body style. Kishi V1 folds together and it's wayy smaller when folded. I will buy another V1 if my current one breaks lol. It's only $45.
Yeah we don't blame you for feeling that way and do agree. Hard to argue that, especially with the price differences. It can fit thicker phones and some phones with cases but the V1 for $45 is an amazing deal. Thanks for your comment and we appreciate you watching
Im gonna be honest, if my v1 breaks, and i buy the v2, ill return it back, and I get a new one v1 again. The v1 its better for me. I saw enough videos about the v2 and man, i dont see any reason to get this one. Also I use mantis software to map all the buttons i want for any game, like apex , cod and genshing . The rest of the games works flawless
That seems to be the general thought about the v2. I do believe most people like the v1 better! Also thanks for letting us know about mantis! We will have to check that out because there are few games we cannot get to work with the controller and have been looking for a way to make it work!
Yeah we thought it was worth mentioning as there are still a lot of phones with headphone jacks and we personally still use our wired headphones more than our Bluetooth ones for sound quality and comfort. Not something everyone is going to care about but we think it's worth mentioning for those wondering. It personally wouldn't stop us from buying this which is why we did buy it. We appreciate you checking out the video.
definitely like the v1 better it feels like the whole phone is built into the kishi
Gamevice Flex is the upgraded original Kishi which now supports cases
Loved the review but can't handle the massive increase in volume on that intro music. Keep up the good work!
Thank you and we appreciate it. Also, thank you for sharing that feedback with us. Your support means a lot.
Good video guys. Helped me with my decision and I absolutely love my v1. Thanks fellas
That Amibo display is so cool!
Whats funny is I thought the sticks would be the one thing that gets improved. The sticks on the V1 are good, but a little stiff for my tastes. Guess it's better than the V2's!
We felt the exact same way. Sticks are nice but a little stiff. We just thought it was a strange move. We do like the new shoulder buttons and triggers but the sticks are unfortunate
Switch joysticks are not bad
Just get skull & co thumb grips
Great video.. Keep it coming..
Thank you, Daniel and we appreciate the support.
Well the first edition is definitely better but for the second they tried not be exclusive to just certain devices which I think is great. Only issue I see is how much cheaper the plastics seem on it. I'm currently using my kunai 3 with my rog 5s pro but will be switching phones and this was an option for me but may not be now.
The kishi v2 feels exclusive
@@ghosttiee9212 Wdym?
nice video....im planning to buy version 1...
Thank you and we appreciate you watching. We hope you like it and would love to hear your thoughts once received
Studio is looking great fellas. Fantastic comparison. As soon as I saw the control sticks, I thought Joy-Con.
Hey man, do you think it's possible to use it with a external cooler? cuz I have one and I didn't want it to go waste
Possibly! It all depends on how big the external cooler is. The back of the Kishi isn’t too thick but it does go directly across the middle of the phone
V1 defo better.
Super psyched about the V2 so I’ve looked at a number of reviews. Every one keeps saying “oh the sticks are so switch like”
As someone who has two kids who are tough on controllers, I’ve used multiple joy cons, never saw this mythical “drift” that people talk about. Our family has the OG switch and the OLED. Zero drift!
I was just telling Adam the same thing. While we were mostly commenting on feel of these sticks (which is totally preference) I myself think the whole drift situation is blown way out of proportion. I own 3 switch pro controllers and 8 Joy cons for my family and none of them have ever had any drift!
@@CompleteGeekTV I do think the v1 is a great controller. But as an iOS user I don’t know if the v2 is worth the upgrade. My only gripe with v1 is the flimsy way it expands. The left side can be very loose, especially on smaller phones. So is the razor backbone…. Uhh v2 worth the upgrade? Time will tell
@@Danarchy3 I have the backbone and it’s like switch joysticks but I have these skull and co joysticks put it on and even if the v2 comes out on iOS I’ll still keep my backbone and PlayStation had there own backbone controller now it has a ps5 design but it’s the same thing as the regular one
@@ghosttiee9212 yeah I saw the ps version, a neat paint job and the buttons matching the PlayStation is interesting but not enough to make me buy the ps version when I just spent $100 on the OG backbone
@@Danarchy3 YESS OG BACKBONE I HAVE IT TOOO I LOVE OTT THE JOYSTICKS ARE GOOD SO WHAT IF ITS SWITCH JOYSTICKS ITS NOT BAD
My Razer Kishi 1 just died as the dpad stopped working properly. Lately I have fallen in love with you guys videos. I commented yesterday on your video of the Gamesir vs Backbone vs Kishi v2 and said I would get a Gamesir v3 after that. HOWEVER, now after watching this I don't know anymore... For me personally what I like most is less clicky A,B,X,Y buttons, Analog Triggers, and how easy the device is to transport as I used to put my Kishi v1 in my pocket all the time.
Do you guys have any suggestions or help you can offer? I will be in the market for a new controller very quick. My gaming life has now been put on hold unfortunately due to dpad issues...
We appreciate the support and glad that you've been enjoying the videos. This is a tough one because the new Kishi V2 is also clicky and we just had every one on the team hold both and click them to see which had more of a click and everyone said they think the Kishi V2 has the loudest click. It's still very compact, has a better dpad, and they best shoulder and triggers buttons so it's still a solid device but clicky buttons and worse sticks. We hope that helps and understand this is a hard choice. Definitely let us know if you have any other questions as we are happy to help.
@@CompleteGeekTV I actually do have another question. I noticed Moga is making an Xbox Liscened remote (Moga xp7-x)
Have you guys looked into this remote? Maybe this would be best for me? Any thoughts?
@@1ibur24 glad you mentioned it! We actually just got that controller and reviewed it! As long as you are okay with it being Bluetooth instead of a direct connection we definitely think it’s the best of the controllers we’ve reviewed so far!
MOGA XP7-X Plus Mobile Gaming Controller! WE WERE SHOCKED! PowerA
th-cam.com/video/PZpszClRS7g/w-d-xo.html
I've done a ton of thinking on this over the past while. I've decided to go with the Moga Controller over the Kishi v2. I like that the Moga is made by Xbox, or at least sponsored by. I also like that the Moga Controller can connect to other devices besides my Android and that it comes with a 2 year warranty. Most of the others come with only 1. Like you said, if I charge both my phone and the device when the phone needs a recharge by then maybe I'll need a recharge in the moga but I probably won't need much more charge. As an added bonus I can possibly use this with my tech 21 case which is thinner. Release date for the Moga can't come quick enough!
I appreciate your videos though a ton and all the pros and cons of each. I love how much you guys like the grips on the Moga Controller.
@@1ibur24 the Moga is released now. We bought ours off Amazon. We weren’t sent it or given it or anything we just paid to overnight it so we could review it as soon as possible. I’ll find a link and add it here if that helps!
Moga XP7-X Plus:
amzn.to/3undNWm
Isn't stick drift when your sticks slowly move to have input that you aren't doing? How do you feel it unless there's some kind of latency?
You are correct and apologize but the part you are speaking on was meant as an inside joke and not meant to be serious.
“Do you feel the drift?” From someone hurt by joy-con drift, that one hit me in soul. 🫠
try me, I've been through 2 joycons and 1 pro controller.
спасибо за обзор парни, я планирую поменять свой kishi v1 на v2 потому что мой современный телефон имеет очень узкие рамки и kishi v1 закрывает часть экрана. кажется, у kishi v2 нет такой проблемы
Does this controller fit the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra?
Yes
@@runi69140 normal a sized with case?
@@icehousemuzik if thé case is not so big
@@icehousemuzik Gamevice Flex fits with the case
@@Gamevice thanks
I returned mine. I was like wtf because I was using it for emulators and it wasn't good
Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it and glad you shared your feedback. Was there anything in particular you didn't like about it for emulation? Might be good information for others to hear when trying to make a purchasing decision.
@@CompleteGeekTV whenever I turned the joystick in any direction the character was moving so SLOWLY for about 3 seconds every time. Even for older games on SNES and Gameboy it happens too. So sad to be honest.
Yeah that's pretty unfortunate. Do you have that issue using that without controllers or touch on the phone?
@@youraveragedillon5958 It this happens with an specific emulator or just anyone that you've tried? I was interested on Kishi V1 just for retro emulators, but your comments makes me wonder if I need to keep looking
What's a case that I can use for my samsung galaxy s21 plus, so that I won't have to remove the case for.
Backbone one decided to use switch analog sticks and now kishi v2, do they just not care about drift issues?
I’ve had my backbone for so long and no drift yet at all and I hope not I hope more controllers have magnetic joysticks then but the backbone is good I use skull and co joysticks
@@ghosttiee9212 do you just use the joysticks made for the switch? And how much better does it make it feel on the backbone?
@@knello15 it got drift and the joysticks got loose and I’ve been sticking with the kishi v2 for iOS and I haven’t had any issues at all tbh it has alittle more range on the v2 the v2 is better then the backbone
The vita sticks are better than the switch. What are you on?
Yeah pretty bold comment. He may need to elaborate on that as in drift or what not. It's not an opinion we all agree with but I believe this was more to say that the sticks are not as nice as the previous V1 model in our opinion. Something we all agree with. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Well it is for iOS now and I refunded my backbone because drifting problems again idk why I got this controller for iOS and it’s coming this Monday I can’t wait
Sorry to hear about the drifting issues. That's very frustrating and appreciate you sharing that feedback with us all.. We hope you enjoy the V2 and we would love to hear back from you on what you think.
@@CompleteGeekTV yessss it’s okay and it’s coming tomorrow Labor Day but Amazon still delivers I’m so happy
@@CompleteGeekTV well I GOT IT TODAY AND I GOT TO SAY ITS WAY BETTER FOR ME THEN THE BACKBONE I LOVE IT SO MUCH IM BETTER AT BRAWLHALLA THEN BEFORE
Can you play with backbone without buying the sub?
Yes! I had it before the subscription and the app was cool but once they came out with the subscription I never signed up for it. They let past owners have it for free for a little while but I don’t think they do now.
Either way, it’s at least a year since we did this video and I still use my backbone all the time and I do t use the app at all.
Great review as always. Too bad about the thumb sticks.
PRO TIP:....What many people forget or dont realize is that you can also connect your samsung phone via DEX and play your emulator games on your smart tv wirelessly which makes it even more badass with the controller.💪😎 Havnt seen any videos on that.
Very good point and great feature. I'm not sure if it's not discussed more because it's more specific to the device than the controller itself but I definitely think it's something that would be good to show people because we agree that it's something we think many don't realize you can do. Thank you for the comment and we appreciate your support.
Can I play playstation Remote play as well with the razer ?
Yes you can! It works just fine on the iPhone with the official PlayStation app. For android phones you will need to download an app called “PSPlay Unlimited PS Remote Play” that app allows third party controllers to work with ps Remote play on Android Phones
An otter box case But who wants to hold something that bulky? name of the game is convenience and portability
Does flight simulator work with it?
hmm, interesting. Really not a fan of the joycon like design of the sticks, makes it feel less like a controller meant for AAA gamepass streaming. Wondering if the 3rd will be a mix of the 2 designs
That would be nice to see for the 3rd version. Thanks for watching and we appreciate the support
Yeah that was biggest downside for sure. I know our comparison video is coming soon and you should definitely check it out! If the sticks are most important to you, Spoiler alert, the Gamesir X3 has by far the best sticks! It’s not even close, but sadly it falls short in some other areas. That’s why I feel like the comparison will be helpful and everyone can see which will be best for them based in their preferences before buying.
@@CompleteGeekTV please review the GameSir X3
@@Leon-vx5it video is already in the works! Will be posted soon.
is razer kishi v2 support mapping game on mediatek dimensity 8100 phone?
Awesome
what game is that @ 3:06?
It’s called Scarlett Nexus! If you like JRPGs and strong story driven games with super fast action gameplay then you would love it!
Save your money and buy a Kishi V1. The build style for these new controllers makes no sense. They're supposed to be MOBILE. Now they're fixed at this weird body style. Kishi V1 folds together and it's wayy smaller when folded.
I will buy another V1 if my current one breaks lol. It's only $45.
Yeah we don't blame you for feeling that way and do agree. Hard to argue that, especially with the price differences. It can fit thicker phones and some phones with cases but the V1 for $45 is an amazing deal. Thanks for your comment and we appreciate you watching
@@CompleteGeekTV Review the Gamevice Flex which has case support too
can i play cod mobile with the kishi v2, without having to connect another remote through bluetooth, if so then i might just buy this lol
The sound mixing with the music and the speaking is WAY off!
i like the razer v2 more than the back shit
Im gonna be honest, if my v1 breaks, and i buy the v2, ill return it back, and I get a new one v1 again. The v1 its better for me. I saw enough videos about the v2 and man, i dont see any reason to get this one.
Also I use mantis software to map all the buttons i want for any game, like apex , cod and genshing . The rest of the games works flawless
That seems to be the general thought about the v2. I do believe most people like the v1 better! Also thanks for letting us know about mantis! We will have to check that out because there are few games we cannot get to work with the controller and have been looking for a way to make it work!
50$ more for v2 nope.
Don't waste your money Kishi does not support 95% of the game's 🤬🤬
you mean the game doesn't support controllers
i have the kishi i want to buy the gamersir beacuse the cooler but argetina is hard to buy anyting :D gift me one. great video
Headphone jack 😆. It's 2022
Yeah we thought it was worth mentioning as there are still a lot of phones with headphone jacks and we personally still use our wired headphones more than our Bluetooth ones for sound quality and comfort. Not something everyone is going to care about but we think it's worth mentioning for those wondering. It personally wouldn't stop us from buying this which is why we did buy it. We appreciate you checking out the video.