Something to consider when getting a controller, if it is rechargeable, the battery will go bad if you don't use it for a long time, say over a year, I'm shopping for another one right now because my old ones that have been sitting wont charge or turn on. I think this time i'll go for a non wireless version
ive watched probably 25 of these videos now and yours is without a doubt the best one. Thank you! Also wondering if any of these will also work in wired mode
I have the gamesir x2 USB. Only two drawbacks on it; the ergonomics suck. If you have medium to large hands and you've held a switch for more than an hour you know what I'm talking about. Second drawback is the joysticks on mine aren't exactly accurate. Forget about playing FPS' with it.
Kishi V 2 is crappy too. Mine broke down after only 1 month. And is completely and utterly useless within 3 months. Spending $200 when it first came out! Now it’s collecting dust. Razer is now synonymous with bad quality. The General Motors of the computer industry
@@rrice.puddinggI liked playstations controller more due to the size but my left thumb always felt fatigued due to its lower positions lower. Buttons are higher on the xbox xontroller meaning you dont have to lower your thumb to low and stress it. Dualsense looks to have pushed things higher a little, haven't tried them yet.
On this type of controller, no clue. But if you're looking for a more conventional type of controller for Android/iOS but don't wanna buy the official Sony one, then 8Bitdo has a controller with Sony's layout. It just doesn't have a trackpad, and won't work on Playstation.
I dont think there's a "Gamesir X3 Pro" ... it's just "Gamesir X3" ... it doesn't have remappable buttons and the triggers are not analog. The X2 Pro is better IMO.
one thing that i'm struggling to find info about on these controllers is back panel clearance - how much space between the USB port and the back of the controller is there? -Will it accommodate a large camera bump? A phone case?
The backbone playstation edition needs the handles to be shaped more like playstation and the right joystick to be symmetrical. With those changes it would be the best one fs!
I agree. Although I’m an Xbox guy, I would like to maybe have an option between asymmetrical and symmetrical depending on personal preference. For me I prefer asymmetrical, but I like to satisfy as many party’s that I could. 👍
I have a Gamesir X2, but don't use it because it's just too gosh darn big and, since I hate having to take my phone case off to use a game controller, the kickstand makes it feel like it'll fall out at any moment and probably damage the USB port. So I recently got a Turtle Beach Atom and it fits over my case fine, if a little tight. It is still deceptively bulky to carry around, but not as bad as the X2. We'll see if I get more use out of it.
Do not buy Razer Kishi V 2. It’s crap! D Pad got stuck after only 1 month of casual use. USB C connector broke down within 3 months so now it’s completely and utterly useless. On top of that it ruined my Android phone’s USB slot as well. Just get a cheap telescopic gaming controller from Ali Baba for 16.69$. It will probably last longer and not collect dust like the Razer Kishi V 2 which I spent $200 for when it first came out 🤦♂️
@@mixterkat6023Razer Kishi V 2 sucks. Mine stopped working after only 1 month. And was completely useless within 3 months. Read my comment! Crappy product synonymous with low quality
I have the MG-x and MG-Pro myself. Both are great devices and if you have a high-end phone such as a Samsung Galaxy fold or an S22/23/24? Then you don't need a Steamdeck or a Playstation portal because these devices in combination with the above-mentioned phones work very well. However, I would like to recommend the PSPlay app instead of the official Playstation app because they support third party controllers. But why both and what is the difference? The MG-Pro is ideal for home use as it feels much nicer in the hand and has larger buttons. The regular MG-X is more robust and compact, making it easier to fit in your pocket.
Are the backbones just for remote play or can i use it for all my mobile ios games? Like CODM, the new War zone pubg etc??? Been wanting to get one but im under the impression its just for remote play with console games
Why do all of them have the x-Box layout? Are there no Smartphone controllers with the PS-Layout at all? (not taking sides here, just find it more comfortable for my phone)
I really miss the black shark 2 gamepad. The two joypads attached to a rail case which you put the phone in. If every gaming phone had a rail case we could avoid clunky external controllers Edit: Just realized the Jungle cat does the same thing. Wish more phones had similar cases
Would you suggest getting a mobile controller. I already have a newer Xbox controller. Stick with it or get something like you mentioned in your video?
I wish the Kishi V1 was actually any good, I saw it at GAME for less than £40 yesterday and that is WAY below most of the more "premium" ones featured here. But I've seen so many people talking about how flimsy it is and how the buttons are mushy (and I hate controllers with mushy buttons). Guess I'll break the bank and go for the more expensive Gamesir x2 Pro, Kishi V2, or Backbone (probably Gamesir as it is the one I wanted originally). I'm currently playing using a Dual Sense controller with a clip for the phone but it is really uncomfortable because the weight of the phone dangling on the controller really bothers me after a short while.
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What the difference between the white and the black backbone IOS version??? And dose it work with all strategies and actions game from apple-store??! 🤝🤝🤝
@BooredGamer, hope this message finds you well. I'm very interested in buying the Razer Kishi V2. I run different emulators on my mobile, including pinball ones. Please, is it possible to use this controller to play vertical games (portrait mode) like pinball games with the phone in portrait orientation? If it is not possible to keep the phone attached to the controller in this scenario, is it possible to place the phone on a table stand and still use the controller wirelessly (e.g. via bluetooth)? Thank you in advance!
Не сказал про качество стиков, про то, как они залипают на осях, про задержки тоже ничего не сказал. Просто показал, что есть вот такие геймпад в, качество которых непонятно какое
Nice overview. One of my phone's speakers is on the bottom near the USB port, will the Backbone controller muffle it? Or is there a way for the sound to escape? I see there are holes on the right side of the razer kishi 2 and I assume that's what they're for?
@@Ykiam08 yet it has - nice clicky face buttons - M1 to M4 with back paddles - feels like a pro controller in the hands - center of gravity depends on how big your phone is - multi function pad that also works on a PC if you need it to and I use it for my hacked ps4 - capable of using both a wired and wireless connection - leaves the headphone jack Port open and free (unlike kishi v1) ...... All that is why the Raiju is still the best .. Especially the fact that I can use it on many devices
I would go for the MG-X if i may advise you, It,s robust, fits nice in the hands and fits easily in your pocket. And i experience no lag even though it,s bleutooth.
Also, is there any of those controllers that have rumble/ vibration. I know it would kill battery but I game hard lol thanks again if you can let me know.
My samsung s23 ultra measures about 7.25 inches with the case on. Will any of those accommodate a s23 ultra with a case on? Or do you have to take the case off every time you want to play a game?
the kishi v2 has interchangeable slotting holders for the phones that allow smaller cases to be used. To my understanding, that is the only one with that functionality
I have 2 different midrange Motorola phones that the gamesir x2 pro will not work on. Kishi 1 works fine. Be aware that this controller does not work on all devices.
You know, this was a good video; exept when you made a big deal on the Razor Kishi. I had it for a year and had no issues putting it back together, I’m wondering how accurate your advice is since you can’t even close a controller. But hey you do you bro. 👎🏼
Bro your missing the absolute best one the MOGA XP7X-PLUS that baby feels legit like a Xbox controller and as a bonus it can charge your phone while you use it.
A good question! Theoretically it should work if you use the right cable (socket to plug aka extender). Software-wise it shouldn't be a problem either, using the OTG standard.
@@christopherstockman3635 I have the backbone and I like that one a lot. But since I have the 14pro max it’s not the easiest fit but it works really well
@@terribletimes902 Depends on the phone. I have the S23 Ultra in a CASETiFY case. While the phone and case definitely fit in the Gamevice Flex, there’s a ton wobble on both sides and even the thinnest adapter, when inserted in the controller, won’t allow my phone to plug in. I got slightly better results with a Ringke case but not much. I basically have attach my phone and then wedge an insert between the controller and my phone to stop the wobble on the usb c side of the device.
Something to consider when getting a controller, if it is rechargeable, the battery will go bad if you don't use it for a long time, say over a year, I'm shopping for another one right now because my old ones that have been sitting wont charge or turn on. I think this time i'll go for a non wireless version
ive watched probably 25 of these videos now and yours is without a doubt the best one. Thank you! Also wondering if any of these will also work in wired mode
I have the gamesir x2 USB. Only two drawbacks on it; the ergonomics suck. If you have medium to large hands and you've held a switch for more than an hour you know what I'm talking about. Second drawback is the joysticks on mine aren't exactly accurate. Forget about playing FPS' with it.
Thank you for letting people know I have a switch and for that reason I barely use it. I wished the switch was comfortable like the wii u
Kishi V 2 is crappy too. Mine broke down after only 1 month. And is completely and utterly useless within 3 months. Spending $200 when it first came out! Now it’s collecting dust. Razer is now synonymous with bad quality. The General Motors of the computer industry
Why does no one make symmetrical joysticks like a PlayStation?
Maybe cause of weight balance it's easier to hold it like that
Exactly 💔
Supply vs demand I guess?
@@rrice.puddinggI liked playstations controller more due to the size but my left thumb always felt fatigued due to its lower positions lower.
Buttons are higher on the xbox xontroller meaning you dont have to lower your thumb to low and stress it. Dualsense looks to have pushed things higher a little, haven't tried them yet.
On this type of controller, no clue. But if you're looking for a more conventional type of controller for Android/iOS but don't wanna buy the official Sony one, then 8Bitdo has a controller with Sony's layout. It just doesn't have a trackpad, and won't work on Playstation.
Wow, finally! An honest review about all the controllers out there wich isn't an advertising. Thank you!!!!
For me, ergonomy are far more important than features, and Nacon MG-X feels good in my hand even after 2 hours of gaming.
Any issues or uncomfortably feeling with the triggers?
@@esaubanuelos5891 none so far
I dont think there's a "Gamesir X3 Pro" ... it's just "Gamesir X3" ... it doesn't have remappable buttons and the triggers are not analog. The X2 Pro is better IMO.
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one thing that i'm struggling to find info about on these controllers is back panel clearance - how much space between the USB port and the back of the controller is there? -Will it accommodate a large camera bump? A phone case?
The backbone comes with a clip that allows camera bumps to fit in nicely.
The backbone playstation edition needs the handles to be shaped more like playstation and the right joystick to be symmetrical. With those changes it would be the best one fs!
That’s exactly why I’m hesitant to buy it wish better joysticks
I agree. Although I’m an Xbox guy, I would like to maybe have an option between asymmetrical and symmetrical depending on personal preference. For me I prefer asymmetrical, but I like to satisfy as many party’s that I could. 👍
I have a Gamesir X2, but don't use it because it's just too gosh darn big and, since I hate having to take my phone case off to use a game controller, the kickstand makes it feel like it'll fall out at any moment and probably damage the USB port.
So I recently got a Turtle Beach Atom and it fits over my case fine, if a little tight. It is still deceptively bulky to carry around, but not as bad as the X2. We'll see if I get more use out of it.
I would agree with you if Backbone had a screen mapping like Kishi v2. Because not all android games with onscreen controls have controller support.
Use Mantis.
@@AshreSkyMantis sucks compared to the Razer screen mapping that comes with the Kishi V2.
Do not buy Razer Kishi V 2. It’s crap! D Pad got stuck after only 1 month of casual use. USB C connector broke down within 3 months so now it’s completely and utterly useless. On top of that it ruined my Android phone’s USB slot as well. Just get a cheap telescopic gaming controller from Ali Baba for 16.69$. It will probably last longer and not collect dust like the Razer Kishi V 2 which I spent $200 for when it first came out 🤦♂️
@@mixterkat6023Razer Kishi V 2 sucks. Mine stopped working after only 1 month. And was completely useless within 3 months. Read my comment! Crappy product synonymous with low quality
Please do a video with the controllers that fit the z fold 4
I have the MG-x and MG-Pro myself. Both are great devices and if you have a high-end phone such as a Samsung Galaxy fold or an S22/23/24? Then you don't need a Steamdeck or a Playstation portal because these devices in combination with the above-mentioned phones work very well. However, I would like to recommend the PSPlay app instead of the official Playstation app because they support third party controllers. But why both and what is the difference? The MG-Pro is ideal for home use as it feels much nicer in the hand and has larger buttons. The regular MG-X is more robust and compact, making it easier to fit in your pocket.
Great review, love how thorough you are with everything.
the atom probably looks the best and also has the best design
So nice!! And I really want to know is this controller work for iPad mini 6?
the nacon MGX PRO rules ! for me the best competitive telescopic controller , i use with mantis gamepad pro also !!!
Great review, really gave me that overview of everything on the market I needed.
Backbone controllers also now require a subscription.
No they don't
What's a nice review, a perfect guide when buying a bluetooth controller for both android and ios
Are the backbones just for remote play or can i use it for all my mobile ios games? Like CODM, the new War zone pubg etc??? Been wanting to get one but im under the impression its just for remote play with console games
It's a game controller you can use for remote play, or iOS games or emulators
I like how my Vita feels in my hands. Now I have a OnePlus t7 pro McLaren, I can't find any grips like this.
Just the type of video I was looking for
Which one would you recommend for the iPhone 15 Pro Max and can you use them with a case on the phone?
Best controller rn are gamesir galileo and updated 2x
Maybe a video that specifically talks about folding phone compatible controllers?
Can you please answer which of these work with emulators? Like eggNS or Skyline Edge?
Why do all of them have the x-Box layout? Are there no Smartphone controllers with the PS-Layout at all? (not taking sides here, just find it more comfortable for my phone)
bsp d9
I really miss the black shark 2 gamepad. The two joypads attached to a rail case which you put the phone in. If every gaming phone had a rail case we could avoid clunky external controllers
Edit: Just realized the Jungle cat does the same thing. Wish more phones had similar cases
I'm in love with my backbone, in the less than a week of owning it it's already made up for it's price. It is worth every penny
Would you suggest getting a mobile controller. I already have a newer Xbox controller. Stick with it or get something like you mentioned in your video?
Does the backbone work well with the fold in the case?
Fire wallpaper on the fold
I wish the Kishi V1 was actually any good, I saw it at GAME for less than £40 yesterday and that is WAY below most of the more "premium" ones featured here. But I've seen so many people talking about how flimsy it is and how the buttons are mushy (and I hate controllers with mushy buttons). Guess I'll break the bank and go for the more expensive Gamesir x2 Pro, Kishi V2, or Backbone (probably Gamesir as it is the one I wanted originally).
I'm currently playing using a Dual Sense controller with a clip for the phone but it is really uncomfortable because the weight of the phone dangling on the controller really bothers me after a short while.
not ONE with parallel analogs ..
Some TH-cam creators: "We're comparing products! (Like, 3 products, potentially biased) 🤔🥱
Meanwhile, over here, you covered TONS and were fair and honest about each one's strengths and weaknesses (and quick, no filler episodes lol) 🤣✌️
Great video. Thanks for showing all of these devices.
You didn't mention how you can't use the backbone or really any of the hardwired controllers on the zfold 4 because of the USB c placement.
Which controllers work best for using emulators like PS1 one emulator and PS2. I have Duck station
There's a lot of phones the kishi doesn't fit nowadays. It's not that hard to put back together though
What the difference between the white and the black backbone IOS version??? And dose it work with all strategies and actions game from apple-store??! 🤝🤝🤝
I have an s23 ultra in an otterbox which ones would even fit?
@BooredGamer, hope this message finds you well. I'm very interested in buying the Razer Kishi V2. I run different emulators on my mobile, including pinball ones. Please, is it possible to use this controller to play vertical games (portrait mode) like pinball games with the phone in portrait orientation? If it is not possible to keep the phone attached to the controller in this scenario, is it possible to place the phone on a table stand and still use the controller wirelessly (e.g. via bluetooth)? Thank you in advance!
I have the Backbone and one of my favorite features in the 3.5mm headphone jack.
Fits a smart Phone with a tpu Case in the Controllers?
Still going strong with V1 of the Razer Kishi!
If you ever want an upgrade, do not get a V2. Get a Gamevice Flex, the real successor to the Kishi V1
Works with mantis
Should I buy it for 55$?
Better go to the Gamevice Flex that is a better Razer Kishi V1 (what actually Razer Kishi V2 has to be)
@@emirobinatoru no get the gamesir X2 pro
Thanks for helping me decide. I’m going to go for the Backbone.
🎮📲😎👍🏼
Razor Kishi is $149 on Amazon 😅 but in this video, it says that it's only $43... Am I looking at the wrong one? 😅
Can the Fold 4 for the GameSir X3 the fan an customizeable rig? Let me please and thanks. Solid video for gamers
Do these controllers work with phone cases?
I’m wondering the same?
the s22 ypu got there does not fit in the kishi v1, unless you remove some pieces
Не сказал про качество стиков, про то, как они залипают на осях, про задержки тоже ничего не сказал. Просто показал, что есть вот такие геймпад в, качество которых непонятно какое
will any of the Bluetooth controllers work with both consoles?
Nice overview. One of my phone's speakers is on the bottom near the USB port, will the Backbone controller muffle it? Or is there a way for the sound to escape? I see there are holes on the right side of the razer kishi 2 and I assume that's what they're for?
It’s called headphones buddy 😂
PowerA MOGA XP7-X Plus vs RIG Nacon MG-X Pro?
Thank you
Is the Z fold 4 compatible with the gamesir x3 pro?? Since its charnging port is on the top woundt the rest would be on the bottom?
Still going strong with the *actual * objectively best mobile controller the razor rajui mobile
bad gravity center
@@Ykiam08 yet it has
- nice clicky face buttons
- M1 to M4 with back paddles
- feels like a pro controller in the hands
- center of gravity depends on how big your phone is
- multi function pad that also works on a PC if you need it to and I use it for my hacked ps4
- capable of using both a wired and wireless connection
- leaves the headphone jack Port open and free (unlike kishi v1)
...... All that is why the Raiju is still the best .. Especially the fact that I can use it on many devices
phone controller with a foldable phone... you just blew my mind xD
I own the razer kishi and i find it very easy to close lol
I'm looking for a controller type C for tablet gaming. Can you recomment something for me? Thank you
is any of these controller gonna work on pc or nintendo switch too?
I really enjoy the backbone and Razor Kishi
You may need to mention which of these do offer remapping of touch buttons ?
Atm only the razer kishi v2
Awesome video
With the backbone can you use it with the fold 4
I would go for the MG-X if i may advise you, It,s robust, fits nice in the hands and fits easily in your pocket. And i experience no lag even though it,s bleutooth.
What about gamevice flex?
Also, is there any of those controllers that have rumble/ vibration. I know it would kill battery but I game hard lol thanks again if you can let me know.
The kishi V2 has vibration
Dang man I really like the video till I saw you were botting your comments
I’m getting a razer Kishi today
AI Is getting crazy it says you got that shirt at jcpenny and shows someone modeling with that shirt 😂
9:40 / 10:35 can i ask if what game launcher is that? thanks
Are any of these compatible with Playstation games?
Bro you know mi11ultra is OK with gamesir x3? Beacuse The big camera bumb..
Hi ! Can u pls share which controller will work best with Z fold 4 ?
MG-X and MG- X Pro.
Dude, folding the kishi would have been so easy if you would have read the FINE manual 🤣
Gsmevice flex?
That's what I'm saying. It would've been the best.
GameVice Flex?
I have the flex and can confirm it’s pretty flipping amazing.
@@ghosttiee9212You should probably learn how to spell "buy" first.
@@kennymccormick8295 calm down dude
What the best gampad for redmagic 8 pro ?
My samsung s23 ultra measures about 7.25 inches with the case on. Will any of those accommodate a s23 ultra with a case on? Or do you have to take the case off every time you want to play a game?
the kishi v2 has interchangeable slotting holders for the phones that allow smaller cases to be used. To my understanding, that is the only one with that functionality
I have 2 different midrange Motorola phones that the gamesir x2 pro will not work on. Kishi 1 works fine. Be aware that this controller does not work on all devices.
Kishi 1 or gamesir doesnt work ?
@@matius6598 gamesir x2 pro didn't work.
@@torq21 thanks
@@matius6598 As an aside, pass through charging doesn't work on the Kishi 1 either which is a big negative.
You know, this was a good video; exept when you made a big deal on the Razor Kishi. I had it for a year and had no issues putting it back together, I’m wondering how accurate your advice is since you can’t even close a controller. But hey you do you bro. 👎🏼
Bro your missing the absolute best one the MOGA XP7X-PLUS that baby feels legit like a Xbox controller and as a bonus it can charge your phone while you use it.
Great review, this has helped me make a clearer decision on what i really want, thanks!
Does anyone know if we can connect the GameSir X2 Pro USB-C to a PC and play PC games? If we use a cable
A good question! Theoretically it should work if you use the right cable (socket to plug aka extender). Software-wise it shouldn't be a problem either, using the OTG standard.
Was this video uploaded not long ago?
Yes
I don’t know why he would reupload if he wasn’t gonna include any of the notable new entries (Gamevice Flex, Kishi v2 Pro)
All of them r way more costly in India "gamesir x3" Is 240$ in here that's 3times the original Price 😫😞🥺
Got the kishi on Amazon India for 3800
Thank man just saw it😀😀
Aliexpress is your friend, also X2 pro > x3
Aliexpress
The MGX pro has the best xbox like joysticks !!!
The kishi v2 is a no go for me, the A B X Y buttons are way too close together for my fat fingers
What do you rock with then I'm using kishi v2 and might return it
@@christopherstockman3635 I have the backbone and I like that one a lot. But since I have the 14pro max it’s not the easiest fit but it works really well
People who use nacon mg-x pro for better gaming and don't care about looks🗿
👇
I found a TH-camr that’s making there own mobile controller
I like the backbone controller
Recently started playing dream league. Has anyone ever tried using any of these pads on that game??
I ordered redmagic shadowblade two days a go because i have redmagic8 phone
Go with gamesir x2 or x2 pro!!!
Junglecat isnt just $30 lol
Best one with a case m
Gamevice Flex
@@terribletimes902 Depends on the phone. I have the S23 Ultra in a CASETiFY case. While the phone and case definitely fit in the Gamevice Flex, there’s a ton wobble on both sides and even the thinnest adapter, when inserted in the controller, won’t allow my phone to plug in. I got slightly better results with a Ringke case but not much. I basically have attach my phone and then wedge an insert between the controller and my phone to stop the wobble on the usb c side of the device.
Epic!
we need more ipad choices
Backbone sucks full features are locked behind pay wall subscription
Can any of these work with 8.0" android tablets?
You're gonna have to find one that fits that most of these fit up to 7 inches max
@@fable2830 K thanks