The Secretlab 2022 Chair is AMAZING! But DON'T Buy it.
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-MY "REAL TALK" SIZING GUIDE FOR THE 2022 CHAIR--
• XL: For anybody over 285 lbs OR over 6'5"
• Small: Anybody shorter than 5'7"
• Regular: Everybody in-between!
Secretlab is no stranger to the gaming chair space and is considered one of the leaders. But are they worth it? This video take a very honest look at the latest Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 chair to find out.
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Intro: 0:00
Transparency: 0:27
Gaming Chair Alternatives: 0:57
Back Pain & Lumbar Support: 1:22
Firmness/Support of Chair: 2:32
Does Secretlab Help With or Cause Back Pain?: 3:03
Herman Miller vs Secretlab: 3:32
Two New Features of the 2022 Chair: 4:05
Magnetic Arm Rest Concern: 4:20
Magnetic Pillow Concern: 6:03
Finding the Right Size: 6:43
Secretlab Chair Heights: 7:02
Improved PU Leather & SoftWeave Fabric: 7:25
One Last Concern: 8:18
Is the Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 Worth it?: 8:58
Should You Pay More for SoftWeave? 10:06
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So basically: buy it but 2020 is also good and cheaper. Horrible title, good review.
Yeah lol I just bought one last night and when I read the title my jaw dropped like that breaking bad meme where he's in the desert
He said don't rush out and buy a new one but I've had a knockoff brand chair for like 5 or 6 years and it's literally crooked now and I'm miserable so I bit the bullet and got a nice chair for myself
@@1234wowww so how do u like the chair now. After 3 weeks is it uncomfortable hard. Is it comfortable and does it make it so you can sit on it all day?
@@kevsimoes Did you buy one?
@@1234wowww How is the chair?
@B C yes I bought one. Ngl I was surprised on how comfortable it is
I have chronic back pain at 24 years old from years of bad posture. Got the titan Evo 2022 a few months ago and although it didn’t “fix” my back pain, it certainly isn’t making it worse and I can definitely tolerate long gaming sessions better than I used to in my previous chair. I 100% agree that it’s quite firm and sometimes the seat begins to hurt if I’m playing for a particularly long time. The back rest is a bit firm as well and occasionally I have to reduce the lumbar support a little bit. Besides that I’m happy with my purchase and I can just tell that it’s going to maintain its quality for years
one day im going to buy one. and use it exclusively on a vr simulator setup.
I feel your pain!! Same life problems here!!!!!!! Need a chair SO BADDDD!!!!!
Maybe try to sport or just go to a gym and get some back exercises... It's not all about the chair you own. Your body is built to be active not passive and just sit all the time. Enjoy and I hope that your chair will last forever, like your back after my advice 😃
Ankylosing Spondylitis?
@@vojtanon7417 thanks! Thats exactly what i want to write. Most people havent Problems with their "Bad" posture. Most of them dont move enough. Steps, pishups, pullups, Dips, etc. Just move. So a Sport U Like. Its Not that hard🤷
Solid and, relatable remarks.
TL;DR: I like my chair, share his complaints. Still recommend, tell them to F off with shilling for your extra two years on your warranty.
I got the 2022 model Titan, and at 6' 4" I opted for the regular size to save some extra cash. I was replacing a really nice Steelcase office chair that had officially run its course and was causing some significant back pain, especially after the gym. They recommended the XL size, and I went with my wallet and judgement.
I'm very much of the "buy once, cry once" mentality and did plenty of research and have my own gripes about Secretlab, chief among them is that in order to get your full, 5-year warranty you must shill your personally owned chair for them. I think that is a dirty practice and will do my part to share that element.
It panned out well to choose the regular size, despite my height. It is a VERY tall chair, and even with my natural tendency to sit textbook perfect, this chair is more than adequate. I can't imagine what I would have benefitted from an even TALLER chair, or deeper seat. Long legs and all, it fits me fine. The armrests do indeed rattle more than I'd like to accept from a chair at this pricepoint, and I appreciate him pointing out it is not related to the magmount toprests. That element is a marketing gimmick to sell their alternative for an extra $80, which feels like a gouge in my humble opinion. Side note for that: if you're like me and wear a mechanical watch, these magnetic mounts MAY screw with your watch's balance, if it isn't magnetic protected. The magnets holding the mounts and pillow for that matter are impressively strong. My wrist rests RIGHT on the magnets and I have been keeping mind of my time to see if it begins to affect the watch.
I have to have this chair at the peak of its height for my legs to feel naturally comfortable, notably due to my height. The armrest adjustments are very keen, and if you go below the chair you can even pull them in or out with the hardware. Speaking of hardware, the included toolkit was excellent, and I have nothing but compliments there. The bolts all seem to be stainless and have lockwashers and washers, so I haven't felt the need to throw on some loctite for good measure.
The seat is deep, to my taste. That is to say to fully rest your back to the backrest, your butt has to be pretty deep and the seat supports a good chunk of your thighs. The fabric option (which I opted for) is not as "soft" as I anticipated, given the trademarked title. It has a coarseness to it, but doesn't feel abrasive, maybe "rugged" would suit that term. Even with the fabric option, it retains heat, which I attribute to the density of the foam cushions. I run hot naturally, and my previous mesh back chair didn't hold any heat (obviously). I attribute this a testament to the density, and likely, longevity of the foam. Worth noting, as I opted for the fabric to keep cooler in the summer. It's Spring and it already runs warm.
I actually really like the gimmick of the magmounted pillow. It just works for ME. I don't rest on it when I'm actually gaming, but when I lounge in my chair, it it nice to not fight a band that involuntarily moves a neck pillow around.
It is indeed a firm chair, not remotely a cloud, but I do not mind. Even with my nonexistant white boy butt, it's fine to sit in for extended periods but I will again cite that I tend to hold good posture by nature.
The controls are all good, and very easily accessible from a seated position. The handle to move the backrest does however feel like the cheapest part of the chair, and you will note that everytime you use it.
Last but not least, the casters are phenomenal. They roll great on carpet and don't try to "guide" the chair when you roll. They go pretty understated. It's a feel thing and difficult to describe.
Overall, I do like mine and it's dang cozy. I'd recommend it to anyone eyeballing one, or a gaming chair. It gets a solid pass on my scale.
Thank you for this dude
@@0s0sXD Anytime bro, thanks for reading a comment that dense
@@RolandsDad Hey man, you still using it, if so how's it holding up? Im 6'3 and thinking about XL, because with my previous chairs I always had the problem of my feet and legs not being in a good position and not being able to sit back far enough ( I have long legs ). You still stand with the regular size?
@@ManBoogey1 I honestly still rock this chair, but now due to price not quality. It's a fairly comfortable chair with a lot I dislike now. It's clattery as hell. None of the adjustable armrest features are solid, they all wobble. It was a feature for them, not a bug. The detachable tops for the armrests are polyurethane and deteriorating, and this is with one year's use. They sell "better" ones, naturally, and at a premium.
The seat itself is rock solid, and I haven't had any issues such as discomfort, back pain, anything like that. It's a reasonably firm chair, but I've been okay with it. It still looks out of box new to me, but I also clean it regularly, and don't trash my stuff. The massive holds for me are the arm rests. They're trash, and I can't bear them for the price asked. Had I the money, I'd get another Steelcase and call it a day.
I've used both an Aeron and a Secretlab. While the Aeron was undeniably comfortable, the arm rests are what killed it for me. I just bought a lumbar support pillow for the Secretlab and it works fine. I need the arm rests -just- a certain way to comfortably play games extensively with a lot of mouse movement like FPS or RTS.
Can you link the lumbar support cushion please. I’m close to buying this chair and need lumbar support as Iv just had spinal surgery
same with my Mirra 2 - the arm rests don't go in enough for me to feel comfortable
I have the same softweave plus 2022 and another positive note is how stable the chair feels while I'm sitting in it. It doesn't just roll around where it wants to
Did you get the normal size? I'm about 5'9 and I sit cross legged so I'm fine if my legs were to hover but my desk it quite high and I was wondering if you think i should get large or normal?
@@imwxlky122 I have the normal size and it's the perfect size for me at 5'11"
For what it's worth, I have the 2020 Omega fabric chair and I've been using it for the better part of a year now with daily use. My sessions range anywhere from 2 to 14 hours. The chair is definitely firm, but I use the lumbar and neck support pillows, and they help immensely to prevent discomfort. There's no rips in the fabric, no signs of wear, and it's retained it's shape the entire time. The legs are metal and the armrests are a condensed foam with metal frames and levers for adjustments. The SecretLab chairs are definitely built to last, which I'd hope so, because mine ran me almost $400USD. I also don't have back spasms with the chair, partly due to the fact that slouching in the chair is very uncomfortable, so I found myself actually sitting properly over time.
Thanks like to hear this
Yeah I agree I got the same chair. I expected it to be a lot more comfy as opposed to stiff. I already have back issues which causes my back to get stiff and when sitting for long periods, it’s really uncomfortable. I do regret spending that $400, I wish I could’ve held onto that and save up for the Herman labs Logitech chair
@@axstin-I personally like my 2020 Omega for the most part, but my regret is not waiting longer because the 2022 Titans seem much better with multiple improvements.
@@axstin-I know people praise the Herman Miller chairs, but I find it very hard to believe they're actually so good that I wouldn't have remorse after spending $1,500. They cannot be THAT good.
They are not. They suck. SecretLabs especially is known to:
-Ship defective products
-have horrendous customer support (2months waiting time, no hotline numbers)
-returns costs a fortune
-reviews are lowkey worthless (give positive review for extended warranty)
-armrests will brake after ca. 3 years and fabric will start wearing out by year 2 or so.
-gaming chairs are simply not made for gaming but short racing with light g-forces in racecars, no skin contact and regular cleaning.
-they might arrive with a terrible moldy/chemical smell that takes weeks to dissipate. Yummy!
Please, just dont buy a gaming chair. Im going out of my way to warn people that are currently looking for a new chair. The infos above where partly my own experience and partly a lot of reviews i found on the internet. If you need sources or anything i gotchu!
Just promise you wont give in to this scam, bro. You are better then this!
Solid review. My guess is the magnetic arm rests and pillow are so that Secret Lab can sell you accessories in the future eg. different colour options.
I've had the exact same 2022 as in the video since just before new year. The firmness takes some getting used to, but I started to like it. It's firm enough that you don't sag away in the chair, yet still not hard enough to be a pain in the butt (ha). The magnetic armrests aren't for long-term exchange when they're worn, but they're for upgrading and swapping them with new materials. The technogel for example, and maybe they'd introduce more.
For the price though? Seems ridiculous.
@@lifeunderthestarstv I mean youre basically paying to have a good back… Id rather have a good back and spend 400-500 on a chair than 100-200 on a chair and have a bad back. Plus, the cheap ones break easily and you would end up spending the same amount on 2-3 of those chairs in a year or two, when you couldve just got 1 of these and lasted years.
@@GamerGavin04 Exactly. It really depends on how much time you spend in a computer chair. People spend much more on mattresses but some people spend more time in a computer chair and think an expensive chair is ridiculous. I will agree it sounds insane but it's worth the price paid.
@@GamerGavin04 I don't personally have one just yet. I'm looking to buy this one in a few days though. I don't mind the price as much as some other people because I'm expecting a great benefit. A lot of my time in the day is spent in a computer chair and I'm looking to be more comfortable.
@@porschepal7932 secret labs is more than likely your best bet then. I know the 2020 lineup of chairs are on sale but overall the 2022 chairs seem worth the price especially for adding lumbar support and adjustability. Just something most currant gaming/office chairs fail to offer without marking it up to double let alone triple the price of a standard secret labs chair that being between $500-$600. I’m sure they also plan to reveal the 2023 model soon as well since this year is coming to a close however in terms of back support and comfort, these chairs are definitely worth the price tag despite the minor issues that people generally point out like the firmness of the seat, which generally you get used to within a few days after using the chair periodically.
The 2020 is one of the taller gaming chairs out there. I also use the roller blade style wheels to protect my floor (and they're SILENT) which also adds almost 3/4" which doesn't sound like a lot but depending on your desk height it makes a big difference. I built my desk so I was able to customize its height but definitely be aware of the height of the chair.
I previously owned a Secret Lab Gaming chair for about 2 years and I would use it quite often. At first I noticed it was extremely firm which I wasn't a fan of. I later found out that from the company that the chair would have a break in period and that it would take some time to get the chair adjusted to my body. It never did in my opinion because even after two years of use, I could only sit in the chair for maybe two hours. After that I would start to have severe back pain. I do have a bad back but that Secret Lab chair would always cause me discomfort after use. I recently sold my chair and I am in the market for a Steelcase Leap V2. I hope that it will reduce the back pain that I experienced in the Secret Lab.
That's a bummer man, sorry to hear! At the end of the day we all have different bodies and ya just gotta find what is right for you. Hope the new chair works out! 🤞
Steelcase Leap v2 > all Secretlab chairs
@@StardustLegacyFighter Did your forget it costs 3x as much
@@TechAuditTV we do, this is just a poorly designed chair, the whole company is shady
@@Windiguana I wouldn't say the company is shady, it is just tailored to gamers and influencers; which typically aren't very intelligent. That is the main reason they sell cool looking products with little warranty and very difficult returns.
I bought one of these cause I see everyone using them and raving about them. It's the most uncomfortable thing I ever sat on. It's like seating on the bleachers, my butt falls a sleep in 5 mins. The back offers no lower back support and pushes the upper back forward causing a lot of pain and pressure in lower back, this makes your neck and head to far away to lean back. Your looking up at the ceiling under your glasses. I wasted 400 dollars, it cost more then half the price to send back. It says it's for people my size but the chair is so high my feet barely touch the ground and it's at the lowest it goes, I wish I could attach the photo so you could see it next to my old chair I wanted to replace and how much taller it is. The back is really tall and straight the bottom is very flat and square, feels like the back wants you to sit one way and the bottom wants you to sit another way. I thought it was gonna be like buying a seat from a truck but it's nothing like a truck seat. You have been warned. I'm stuck with this paper weight. I will gladly give mine away I don't even want to see it. If you wanna pay for shipping it's yours.
I have a Titan 2020 model in fabric. My back pain disappeared. I love the chair. The only problem with it is the armrests are too hard. So I had to add some cushions. Not a huge deal. But they should definitely improve the armrests. Having said that, I see no reason to upgrade to the EVO just for these new features. I'll see what they come up with in a year or two.
They have! You can buy a upgraded armrest separately… It’s a feature of the magnetic arm rest, they’re swappable and replaceable
@@possiblyelijah5307 They’re also $90
@@CameronJettLamb well it’s still an “improvement”
@@CameronJettLamb it’s also entirely optional
Are you arm rest loose? Like do they move around a lot?
That was an excellent review, and appreciate the straightforward talk. It's exactly how it should be done! Thanks, it answered all of my questions!
SecretLab May seem kind of like just another dxracer, but i assure you they are far more comfortable and they stand behind their product. Good chair with a good balance between looks and comfort for a fair price. Those of you that think the price is high you really haven’t seen how high chairs can go. Look at Levenger. I have the 2020 Titan XL with soft weave and it is an excellent product. I had issues with the left armrest “tearing” the cover and they replaced both armrests 0 questions asked.
In both of my armrest replacements, they asked a *LOT* of questions. They wanted videos of everything. It was a hassle.
The 2022 Titan SecretLab chair XL did solve my back problem. The fine adjustment to the recline is important to for me and almost no 200-300 chairs have that feature that will support my weight. My only complaint is that the hard seat has broken down and my butt hurts after just few hours. Looking at seat pads now... but for $500 it shouldn't do that. The pillow does not fall at all for me. The problem is I HAD to get XL to support my weight, so its a little bit tall, not bad though. The PU leather is holding up VERY well and I tend to be rough on seating surfaces in the past. I just need better foam in the seat and it would be perfect for me.
What’s your height/weight if you don’t mind me asking?
I find my back pain better with the chair, but also I use an angled footrest to correct my posture and sit very straight.
Subscribed. Very helpful videos bro
My 2018 Secret Labs Omega is by far the best $300 i've spent in a while. After years of using it it is still just as comfortible and has no tears or fading. The quality is top notch but I dont know if mine was made in a different era of the company or not. Dark Grey that came with head/lumbar pillow(i use my own pillow for upright support). Assembly is somwhat challenging (esp. if you have 1 arm and leg like me XD) but once its assembled, laying down all the way back spinning around was such an amazing feeling.
Got the Titan Evo 2022 and tbh I wasn't blown away but hoping it's like listening to that timeless album for the first time. After a few "listens" the awesomeness starts to reveal itself
Did it ever improve?
Did it improve?
did it ever improve?
Hey guys my bad for taking so long to reply. Yes the chair is awesome now. Fair warning: once you get used to Secretlab chairs everything else feels bad for your back.
@@jackedkerouac4414 thanks, I think I might go for the regular size (I'm 6'3") with the Witcher pattern and the neo leatherette. Good to hear it's held up well for you
Still love my 2020 omega , no issues whatsoever , has gotten a little bit more soft over a year but maintains its quality perfectly!
Do u have cloth or leather version?
@@tinocabral4201 I have the leather version !
Ordered one today. Been using a leather classic chair so far, REALLY expensive but nothing ergonomic so I decided to try this one
I got the Arozzi Primo Woven Fabric gaming chair.
Arozzi Primo also have built in lumbar support.
And it's built very similar to secret lab's Titan 2020 model.
Arozzi is a Swedish company and I believe Secret lab is a Singapore company.
But a good office chair has more settings and better ergonomy.
So truth is that even secret lab and Arozzi can not compare to good office chairs.
But they are closer.
My back pain stopped when I got off of my fat arse and started working out. Now I can sit in any chair for extended periods. I also went to school back in the days when the chairs when ergonomics weren't even a thing and I don't remember any of us falling paralyzed onto the floor.
I hate when people point to HM chairs being more expensive as if to suggest that it's alright for a $550 chair to give you pain because it didn't cost $1500, completely ignoring that $550 is still a ton for a fucking chair.
im a driver and im used to firmer seats. i firt bought a "cheapish" "gming" chair start of 22. But that thing was shit. Already broke basically everything on that thing. Ok the stuff got replaced no questions asked. But pretty shortly after the first break i found secretlabs and also found out that they made chairs for E sports. Which means they have a high standard and after a little search i bought one. I gone deep and bought a themed and licenced one yes. But tbh.
I say its totally worth it. I recently ordered another one for my sister since she works from home and so far hasnt had a good chair. She also doesnt earn much because of here medical conditions and chronic pains.
i hope this chair helps her and also looks good ^^.
i think the titan chairs are nice and for their price they deliver.
I just recieved my Secretlab chair yesterday as I have suffered from backpain in the cheaper gaming chairs so I went full out on giving it a try and yes first impression yes it feels hard first time you sit in it but now just one day later I like the support it gives and I can feel my back slowly getting used to this new way of sitting and I like the headrest pillow its so soft
Whats the chair like? I was thinking of getting one for myself
@B C Well, after 10 months of use, it's a nice chair but it still feels hard so I wouldn't call it super comfy but also not uncomfortable it helps with your posture well and I do have less back pain in this chair
@@DAAC86 thanks for the quick reply 👍 I was thinking of getting one for myself. Which size and material did you get? I was thinking of getting the softweave plus fabric.
@@BC-px5dw well I got the reg leathernette would have liked the fabric in the summer time
I've owned a 2022 SoftWeave one for a few months now. Didn't want to spend the money for a proper office chair nor did I want to buy something low quality. I think this chair strikes a good compromise. I plan on sticking with it for another 5-7 years assuming it holds up.
The chair has a lot of gimmicks as pointed out in the video, the whole magnet thing is entirely pointless. Also, I use the cushion as lumbar pillow, and no it's not magnetized at that level but it makes the chair more comfortable for me.
A lot of users have complained about squeaking and creaking. No sounds here but I'm a light dude so who knows. The chair is also very stiff, I personally don't mind that but some may find that bothersome. My main issue is the racing-seat design with sides that aren't comfortable to lean on.
Overall, I also recommend getting the previous model since the price point is the main reason for buying this chair and not opting for an office or used office chair instead.
@@Perceptence Aye a 2nd hand quality office chair is a good option. Where I live they are still too expensive and not widely available.
The squeaking should be fixed in newsr models. I just bought one today and according to their customer support its been fixed. We'll see if everything's alright as soon as I get it.
I blame thoroughly enjoying my car and its seats, so the bucket seat design feels real cozy to me. I don't mind the "wings" one bit.
@@g00gle5ucks5 Thank you. I hate that people think everyone lives in the city with 20 second hand office stores available. I have the same issue where it's just not widely available, so the couple hundred bucks most people save going second hand is wasted on shipping and handling.
@@RolandsDad I actually bought the Omega 2020 for this reason. I saw the newer ones and some other models didnt have the “wings” and didnt think it would feel like I was locked in. I personally like the bucket seat aspect.
It really is my luck that a few months after I order my SL Omega chair, they release their new editions lol. I got mine in December and am thinking of upgrading when I get the money saved just for that built in lumbar. The pillow does fine, it's just as soft and comfy as the headrest, but after sitting in my brother in laws Titan, I need that built in lumbar
This is the best chair I've ever had. This chair supports your back like no other. I work remotely from home and have had back problems for years but since switching to this chair, my back feels so much better. It's so firm yet so comfortable. I love it.
I just bought the jinx version so I’m waiting for it to be delivered and honestly I’m not gonna watch this video because I don’t wanna regret before I even have it !! So sorry because your videos are so cool !
Fair enough 😂 I appreciate the love! But honestly, it's a great chair. TL;DW - 2022 is a great chair, I just like the 2020 better 😄
@@TechAuditTV okay ! Thanks I appreciate ! I’ll make my own opinion with the time !
hey, i notice this comment was from a month ago. did u get the chair? if so, how do you like it? :D greatly appreciated :)
@@xagl_ hey ! Still not ! Received a mail from Secretlab a month ago that said that my chair will have some late and will be delivered the 11 march so it’s soon !! (I’ll give some updates when I get it ! I’ll probably make a video about it too)
@@achaz_ okay! maybe reply to this comment whenever you get it, but if you forget it’s all good too haha :) ty for replying!!!
I just got the D. Va 2022 Titan and my pillow falls off all the time but honestly it's not really a problem unless I'm rocking the chair or something. I will say that the seat has really been hurting my butt with it's firmness and I'm hoping it'll soften up more since I've only had it for a few weeks
I bought the DVa too! It was hurtin my butt at first but after a month it’s softened 😊.
it'll soften up more don't worry i got this problem too!
@@jesspeachie So do you expect to soften the firmness every month? :(
Gross!! We don't care if you just got the D!!! Lol jk
Is the pink color really nice?? I've been thinking about the D. Va one I love her
Got 2022 Titan XL in July 2021, in Aug 4 I started conversation with secret labs support, backrest was noisy, in late October got new backrest and it was even worst, so loud! So We continued our emailing, few days back in February 18 got new backrest and its quite and great. But now they announce: "we want replaced backrests back", good thing I stored them in basement. But that's just odd, I had to hold on "broken" inventory for 5 months without telling me, that I will have to send back to them something. And last box is in the bin, so I don't even know how to send them back both in 1 box :D Also, worth mentioning - 1 arm rest come faulty, so they sent new one and I hadn't to send that faulty one back.
Using wise, I really dig the chair, adjustments are great, I have black fabric, looks great, feels great, feels rugged. But fact I have to struggle with support is so annoying.
You are the worst kind of customer, I think you're the annoying one
Yeah, support sucks. I had to wait 3 days to cancel my order with multiple emails back and forth.
Nice one dude! Thanks!
Perhaps it was already stated in the comments, but the point of the hot swappable arm rests are not just for easy replacement, but for easy upgrade to new premium arm rests that are on the Secretlab
site. I wonder how long until after market additions such as a cup holder will take advantage of that feature? Maybe it already has happened? Or modding more easily to reskin the upholstery tom something even more customized. Or to hot swap to restraint hardware when you want your person in question to be restrained in comfort and style. The possibilities are limited only to your imagination.
Has lots of potential. I love the magnets they're adding to everything.
maybe it's just me but i cannot imagine KBMing with a drink piercing my forearm
They have replacement "skins" on the website now.
@@dioxideuniversalit could extend out to the side maybe
@@dioxideuniversal As in a cup holder on the side or something, which would be pretty good
Very good Review, thank you
I've had a Secretlab 2020 Omega chair with the softweave fabric since Nov of 2020 and it has been really good. I like the fact that the seat cushion is really firm and find it comfortable. I even bought my dad one of the chairs for his birthday recently
But I do wish that my armrests pads were either the Titan's magnetic type or the updated Omega ones that can be removed by undoing a screw and popping the pad off. One of my armrests had become very loose and just recently it actually came off the upright support. The pad and mechanism were secured to the plastic portion of upright by four screws and the heads are underneath the pad. Unfortunately, the armrest pad I have appears to be bonded to the mechanism and there is no apparent access to the heads of the screws to reattach the armrest.
I am currently in contact with Secretlab to see what I and they will do about it. I suspect it will mean replacement of the entire arm, less the mounting plate to the bottom of the chair.
i have the 2020 titan xl. i love it. u can repair the loose Armrests urself by tighten 4 screws if u get a little bit deeper into the armrest. inform secret labs about ur squezing and u will get a new backrest.
How is the seat pressure on the back of legs on the 2022 titan? I just got the 2020 as it’s 100 cheaper but the seat puts so much pressure on my legs that it starts to hurt after 30 mins. I heard the seat on the 2022 is more rounded, so wanted to check if that helped with legs pressure.
I have the same problem and using an under desk foot rest is a game changer. Might help you as well
I love the Kramer you got on the wall there. And I should know. It's a Kramer!
Off topic , your hair looks cool man! And really cool setup clean look you have with the plants .
I was debating really hard if I should get a GT racing chair do you know any chance if it’s a good gaming chair
Good review!
Had my SecretLab Titan since 2022 and still love it. Work from home and it’s great. The first maybe couple months it was a little firm though until it broke in to my body shape.
Since 2022? It's still 2022..?
@@AVeryNormalGuy seems like forever when working from home ;)
@@strictnonconformist7369 Seems like a shill account
Looking to get a gaming setup in the second bedroom. I am getting the secretlab metal desk. Love the features. I was looking at the razor gaming chair with the lumbar support. What chair do you use? Have you heard any good things about the razor chair?
don't buy this chair you will regret it
Ordered a chair from them about 5 months ago. They messed up the address from the start and now FedEx has no idea where it is and I've been waiting another month for secret labs to update it. So basically I got to spend almost $700 for a chair in a box to collect dust in a warehouse somewhere for half a year
I just received a Secretlab Titan EVON Titan Leatherette in Black.
The box was well padded, instructions were very clear, but what these reviews don’t mention is the formaldehyde like smell from the chair materials. I’m currently airing it out and hopefully the strong nauseating smell will disappear. Overall, the materials are sturdy, good framing, but the lumbar support looks lame. I’ll have to try it out for at least a week or two to determine if it justifies the $580 price tag. Good luck
How was it? Im planning on getting one for my birthday, since i got one now from 2020.
@@SnackZatPC I’ve had it for a month now, no issues. I did end up getting a purple seat cushion. The padding on the TITAN EVO 2022 is a bit firm. Black Friday sales should be coming out soon. Good luck, keep me posted.
What are these cheaper alternatives? Im not seeing them in the description
I've had the secretlab omega 2018 softweave for going on 5 years now and it ain't bad! I give it a lot more credit after trying the Logitech Embody which gave me the worst back pain I've ever felt.
It was 350 bucks at the time too
have you also try fantasylab chair as well? are these any better? just curious about your opinion
Should I get this or the Ergo Chair 2?
My 2020 Secret Lab Omega Dark Knight Edition still feels very comfortable and doesn't have any wiggle at all on the armrest. I guess their armrest quality went down on the 2022 model. I also own the softweave Titan 2019 version cookies & cream color.
love the Kramer portrait, what a motivator!
How come you didn’t go got XL being 6’3? I’m 6’1 and been told to get the Xl? thanks
I have a leather respawn and i do not like it at all anymore so I ended up buying the 2022 Titan which should be here tomorrow. Despite the rattling I’m pretty excited! Thanks for the review so I know what to expect
Update? Thoughts?
Genuine questzion, how do you deal with the lumbar support? Because i've been using it for a month and it breaks my lumbar so hard
I have a 2020 version, that i have been using since mid-ish 2022.
Pros:
I am a very large person (6’6 and 240lb) so I tend to wear down the hydraulic thing pretty fast, so having one made specifically for someone like me is very nice, although it does cost a bit more.
Soft weave is much nicer than all the “fake” leather materials I have tried.
A lot more customizable than other budget chairs I’ve used.
Cons:
Price of course, I bought mine on sale and the price was still twice that of the second most expensive one.
Very heavy, so when I just moved last month it was a pain to deal with lol.
Overall I would say it has been worth it for me, as I can easily see myself still using this chair in 3-5 years, so by then I would have probably paid the same for that one chair as I would have buying 3 chairs in total over the secret labs chairs lifespan.
I'm 6'7 and I'm in a Herman Miller chair and my back is in so much pain. I need a good chair to sit in for 3+ hours. Do you recommend it? Ill drop the money for no back pain
I am in the market for a new chair an I really appreciate this video. But now to my most pressing need. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PAINTING OF KRAMER? I need it now!
Amazon! Here is a video I did on it: th-cam.com/users/shorts25P3qffp1W8
So I’ve been in a $150 GT racing chair and I’m starting to feel the bars through the seat and I use a little pillow for my back so I definitely need lumbar support so I’ve been looking at the evo
I’ve got an older Titan, and have been sent a replacement tilt mechanism and piston. This was after reporting some play in the mechanism when rocking gently backward and forward, and to a lesser extent, from side to side. The replacements haven’t made any discernible difference. Do all the chairs have this movement? Anyone have the same issue?
Lock the leaver
I have a 2022 That is a year old. It does the same thing in the locked position It rocks back and forth just a little bit. Not side to side But back and forth Not a huge deal but it does Annoy me A little bit. The other 2 issues are That the arm rests are too hard. That is easy to solve With the plush cell memory foam Armrests But These chairs should come with them from the get go For the price that you are paying. The other thing is that the seat is a bit on the hard side. Would be nice if they could make it just a little softer.
I believe that's intended. I was at shop last week browsing Herman Millers, and they too have this slight tilt.
I was told it's to protect the chair from wear and tear, apparently locking it so it's completely rigid wears them out superfast.
I assume Secret Labs has the extra leeway for the same reason.
Love "the kramer" painting in the background. Lol
As if you have the Kramer painting haha so sick!! Also It’s way too firm and the lumbar support just hurts. Try sending it back they will delay you n it will cost you around 90 pound
Thanks mang great review I just bought a 2020 titan in napa leather to replace my og PU titan which was peeling horrifically. I will never buy a PU titan again but I may get a Titan XL in softweave or napa (if napa is ever made available in the new range)
Yoooo I love the Kramer poster hahaha
I'll wait for the 2023 model to see if there's decent improvement
If I’m 5 foot 6 average build 75kg weight.. Should i really go for the small size?
I was going to get myself the jinx arcane chair but ended up going with a herman miller embody
I hope i made the right decision
bro you spent 1895 USD on a chair 💀💀
@@DaSourOrange Spend your money where you spend your time. As someone who's older, it baffles me that people will drop tons of money on the computer, but use the cheapest desk, chair, keyboard (though that's changing now that mechanical keyboards are popular); they can find.
I remember my teenager years / 20's - I could sit/sleep anywhere, in any position and not care. Consider it a caution that when you get older - this will not be the case.
Considering how much time you spend sitting in that chair gaming, watching tv/movies, doing homework / work; why sit in a $50 busted chair with a spare pillow on it because the foam died years ago, or some fold out wooden chair from a thrift store?
A quality chair may be boring; but you'll thank yourself later :)
@@DaSourOrange what is so wrong about that?
I'm shorter and I got the 2022, no regrets. My old chair was 10+ years old
Does putting some oil or lubricant help with the squeaking noise?
I've been eyeing the Secretab Titan for those magnetic arm rests because I burn through arm rests. I have a habit of, well, resting my arms on them, and I prefer padded arm rests. This also means that the covering on the arm rests on every chair I've owned has developed cracks and the padding compressed. Solid arm rests don't have that problem, but they're uncomfortable.
I have a Noblechairs Epic bought in 2019 and the seat is STILL too hard and worse since pinched my sciatic nerver all the way down my thigh. Softer would be a welcomed change. That said, is the Evo any softer than what I have?
how is it overall regardless of softness, i mean durability and quality? any issues? wearing pealing anything? cracking sounds?
@@munther_17 still looks new, but I don't recommend it for your back or butt. It was solid and heavy. Everything worked flawlessly, but I needed all the cushions for some comfort.
@@JayJay-jx3zg i’m planning to buy the Hero one as it has an integrated lumbar support and the cushions are said to get better after one month of use and many reported that the more time you give the comfier it will get eventually without losing its support
@@munther_17 All I can say is, I've had mine for going on 3 years and it's in perfect shape, but the cold cure foam on the seat never really improved in comfort for me. Just too dense and hard, but the build quality was stellar. For reference, I'm 190lbs, so It's not like I'm light, but not super heavy either.
I am Checking out a indiegogo project of ANDASEAT KAISER 3 PRO and I am looking up similar gaming chair review .. Will u be doing a ANDASEAT KAISER 3 PRO review too? The Mag table version review please if u do one please! Thanks a lot!
It's not how long you've had the chair it's how long have you sat on the chair....to make proper review.
Gaming chairs are a complete waste of money and it's no surprise at all why people buy it, because 99% of ppl have never used high end office chairs long term.
It's easy to rebuke high end office chairs because of their non-gamer aesthetics and high price, but unlike racing seats those chairs are designed by ergonomic experts.
I used to think Herman Miller chairs were overpriced and gimmicky, that was until I sat in the Mirra 2 and I learned just how wrong I was.
Yea but the issue is the aeron doesn't have a headrest....
IMPORTANT FOR ALERGICS AND ASTMATICS !!! I ordered the Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 in Softweave design and size XL. I won't discuss the quality of the chair itself in my post, but there is one important fact that may surprise many people. After assembling it, I noticed that the chair smells a bit new, which is nothing untraditional. Unfortunately, after a day of sitting in a room that I often ventilate, I found myself dizzy, with a very congealed neck and difficulty breathing. When it was repeated the next day, it was clear that it was from the fumes from the chair. I don't treat for allergies and asthma, but I'm generally bothered by synthetic aromas from fabric softeners. In the morning after entering the room, the smell was really enormous, so I let the chair air out on the balcony overnight. Even after 14 days, unfortunately, I didn't air it out, but the smell subsided a bit. So I tried to test it again, but after three days of work, it made me so sick that I was literally hallucinating. Like quite desperate when you buy a $16,000 chair and can't sit on it. The next week, it was windy outside, so I sat at home with the window open on both sides, and I could do that. Anyway, for the night, I still leave the chair outside. Now, after about 6 weeks, it looks like the fabrics have aired out a lot, but I prefer to ventilate constantly during the day.
So that's my story. Whether the volatile substances are released from the upholstery, foam or some kind of glue, I have no idea. Even the pillow itself smells, and there shouldn't be glue. What's insidious is that it's actually not a particularly strong smell, but after a few hours in an unventilated room, it will probably be a strong attack on the organism, quite fatal for some allergy sufferers.
Although many of you may not be allergic to the volatile substance, it can still be harmful in the long term. I remember the first Chinese cars that were imported into Europe, and it smelled like hell before they learned to use more economical chemistry.
So I recommend to everyone, if they have the option, to let the chair air out in the long term, which in my experience is at least 6 weeks. If you sleep in the room, then think twice. Although nothing may happen, the immunity definitely gets kicked, which can manifest itself elsewhere.
A note outside my "junkie" problem. I considered for a long time whether to take L or XL, because I have 186cm/82kg, I fit into both categories. Because I was afraid it would be too small for me, so I took a bigger one. Unfortunately, I couldn't test it anywhere. Anyway, XL seems too much for my parameters. Even though I have the chair at the bottom, I can barely reach the ground. The seat cushion is large/long and it puts a little pressure under my knees on my calves. I put the armrests close together from the bottom of the chair and even at the top I have them in the narrowest position ... and they are still quite far away. The magnetic cushion is an interesting gadget, but for my taste it has a small range and I don't like either of the extreme positions. I often bump into it and it falls off completely. It would be ideal to combine it with rubber, which I will probably do by self-production eventually. So it follows that the size L would be better for my parameters, but I'm just guessing, because I haven't tested it. So perhaps my observations will help someone. In general I want to say that the chair is festive, the materials are decent and I fit very well, except for the dimensions. I really appreciate the hardness of the chair, ergonomically excellent for me. If you're used to soft, it might bother you, but for long sessions it's medically ideal. I personally have a chair to work on, so I can hold it for 6 to 8 hours. I won't evaluate the rocking mechanism, I don't use it much, but I think it's just right for my 82kg at maximum resistance, which implies that the larger weights will probably be disappointed.
i own a 2022 and at over $800, I don't recommend it. It is uncomfortable and hard. However if you do get one, the recommended size is too big. get the size smaller.
Excellent review, cut through the nonsense and answered questions that most others dont. Subscribed to you based on this video.
I have Titan 2020 and my arm rests began to wear out after about 6 months of regular use of the chair. I've heard many complains about the quality of the arm rests so I don't know how you managed to keep them as new after long period of time, unless you changed them or you just didn't use the chair.
He didn't use the chair heavily, just like all the ppl who review this chair.
@@StardustLegacyFighter Why would they say anything bad about the chair...they are getting it free and the extended warranty shill ensures that mostly good reviews are left on social media for the company.
Question which one will be better for me I'm 186cm/115kg regular or XL size? Thanks in advance.
If you do find out please let me know, my bf is the exact same build as you 😅😅
The regular is for up to 100kg so I would say XL is better for longer durability
How old are you?...As you get older you will probably put on weight so the XL chair is the better option...I love mine
Hello, I my Height is 5'4 soo is Small size will fit for me? or still the Regular one?
I suggest everyone check there tilt and height lever handles. They are push on handles and when pushed on there are 2 integrated plastic clips on either side of shafts and one side or the other breaks off as you push on. sometimes they fly off or just break and its a hanging chad as soon as you check it it falls off. Ill bet there a lot of people have not caught this. Look real close. The company gas been very good about it and sent me new ones but they both broke right off, I let them k now again I have not herd anything yet. Its a design issue, appears to me that shaft lugs are a bit to large. such a nice chair to put something like this on it, should have end screws or a ball bearing retention system.
Thx my chair is currently being sent and I will be checking that before anything
@@tinacameron5526 heat them up first and there fine.
@@pete7894 how do I heat them?
@@tacos420.7 I used a heat gun on low and just heated a little. Soaking in hot water would work to. Or wrapping in a heating pad. Pretty much anything. Your just training to get temp up 80 or 100 degrees. If there cold they will break.
@@pete7894 good to know, I’ll try to keep that in mind if I end up going through with this purchase
Nice Kramer portrait!!! I'm a huge seinfeld fan!!
i cant decide between the noble hero tx and the titan evo 2022 softwave, anyone had the chance to try both by any chance?
Can anyone advise on a way to sort out the ridiculous backrest hardness? I considered the "skins" but they don't look thick enough to actually significantly add cushioning.
I have the original Titan. The lumbar pillow doesn't stay in a useful place because it has no way of attaching it. Didn't even come with the chair, I had to get one from the Omega.
The adjustable lumbar support is literally a torture device. Does nothing good. Just makes it hurt more.
The seat cushion is firm but I got used to it. The backrest on the other hand is horrifying. It's like leaning on a wooden plank coated in leather.
What I need is a cushion for the backrest. I've tried putting various chair cushions up against it but they're awkwardly shaped and I can't really keep them in place.
Is there any product out there which is more suitable? Something like a plain rectangular slab of padding I could somehow strap onto the backrest of the chair? I've been looking but didn't find anything.
I found myself wondering if I could use a "skin" to force some kind of cushioning pad to stay in place against the backrest but something tells me it wouldn't be easy, plus I don't know where to get the cushioning pad.
WHY THE HELL are Secretlabs not selling a full height backrest cushion!?
I love my 2020 omega chair only complain is the arm rest after hours of gaming my elbows hurt, another complaint the paint is chippin off my cloud 9 version like alot I've had it for 4 years now. So I guess I would rate it a 4/5.
Have one it’s 2020 the tilt just broke and it does hurt my ass after a few hours but my back never hurt the lumbar was good I have the titan xl
im 6'2/6'3 and xl is perfect
I bought it about a month ago (Titan Evo 2022 XL with the SoftWeave fabric) and have to say I really like it--including the back support and, yes, I believe the cold-cure foam is a GOOD thing when it comes to support. There is one big HUGE issue that makes me regret purchasing it though: *the LOUD. FREAKING. NNOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIISEE!!!!!* I mean my goodness, after only a few weeks this thing is louder than a creeky old attic in a b-rated horror movie!! C'mon, Secretlab, are you kidding me??? A lot of it is coming from the *inner lumbar-support mechanic* --so much so that I sometimes feel tempted to stab it open and spray it down with a can of WD-40 (because as is, you CAN'T access it the same way he talks about adding WD-40 to the seat piston in this video). *SECRETLAB: IT'S CALLED LUBRICANT. EVER HEARD OF IT??? USE IT!!!!! HOOOWWW did this get through all of the research, testing, and Q&A?!?!?! TOTAL AMATEURS* Grrrrrrrrr🤬
Isn't there a 3 year warranty so you could maybe tell them you think it's defective and the next one might not be so squeaky?
Honestly I’m in the middle of possible buying one rn and if this happens to me I might actually do some clean cuts in the back and cover it in wd40 I’m sure I could pull it off
Ask for the barrier kit. I researched auite a bit before buying it and there's some areas causing the noise. They provided customers with a barrier kit to significantly reduce it. I suggest you contact the seller and request for it
Got 2022 Titan XL in July 2021, in Aug 4 I started conversation with secret labs support, backrest was noisy, in late October got new backrest and it was even worst, so loud! So We continued our emailing, few days back in February 18 got new backrest and its quite and great. But now they announce: "we want replaced backrests back", good thing I stored them in basement. But that's just odd, I had to hold on "broken" inventory for 5 months without telling me, that I will have to send back to them something. And last box is in the bin, so I don't even know how to send them back both in 1 box :D Also, worth mentioning - 1 arm rest come faulty, so they sent new one and I hadn't to send that faulty one back.
@@ValtersPelns if I understand you correctly I'm not sure you had that weird an experience. In most cases you're gonna have to send faulty stuff back if you want it replaced and them waiving that for the arm rest but not the back rest just makes sense
I found GTRacing chair as good for hundreds of dollars less and no shipping delays! Cancelled Secret Lab order after reading tons of bad reviews and also major shipping delays.
6'3 just bought XL kinda spooked now hahah
How did it turn out? Happy with your purchase?
Don't see any links in the description for alternative chairs like you mentioned in the video.
what do you think about Brassex Atticus Model # 3813 ?
did he forget to put the other options of gaming chair in the description or am i missing something?
lumbar support design is not enough... that's why they're selling additional lumbar pillows now. design oversight.
I've been using a 2020 Titan XL since it launched and honestly I wouldn't recommend it. The non-height adjustable lumbar is not in the right place for me so it's useless. In addition to that, there's hardly any cushioning to the back, so it feels like I'm just sitting my back up against a board. The seat cushion broke in enough over time as to not be overly uncomfortable, but at this point I wouldn't buy another Secretlab chair until they improve the padding dramatically.
had 2 arm rest replacements, they split. also the loose part, its a section connected by 4 srews. mines actually come off completely. hence looking for videos on putting it back together. i recently bout a psit chair for work, the hight is much better than the titan. the titan is to low for my desk 2020 here
Take a look at the andaseat Kaiser 3 that's coming out 27th
I bought Omega chair a year ago, I'm 165cm (5,4 feet), 60kg. I used to use my ex boyfriends chair when at his place which was bigger one, titan. His chair was super comfortable so I bought mine. And I'm super disappointed, chair is stiff, and doesn't put my back in the right position. My back and neck hurt. I keep on throwing away and trying to use again the pillows and it's not helping. The one for the neck is way too stiff, and too big, It doesn't give support, just pushes my head away from the chair. The other is better but without the neck one doesn't make sense to use it. Finally, I use the lumbar one with my private travelling pillow for neck.
Also, worth to mention, putting this chair together was a nightmare and I cried when doing it. My dad had to do it for me and even for him it was hard. I would have bought their plushie or travel pillow but a) I shouldn't need it in the first place b) price is way too high. In polish zł I paid for this chair 2000zł, my net salary is 3900... So I worked for two weeks to buy a chair that makes my back hurt anyway lol. Next time I'll just buy a chair at ikea it will probably be more comfortable judging from how comfortable their strandmon is for example.
Any update how are things going with it?
@@sy-ky_buddy4603 I’m using it daily. It’s alright buuut I wouldn’t buy it again.
1,96cm 110kg with back pain.I purchased titan 2020 DAY 1,after 2 years i can say that is the best chair that I had EVER.
How can I buy the 2020 version in Spain , anyone know ? Thanks
ive had one of these for 2 years, great chair, but the material on the arm rests easily breaks and tears apart over time which is no different to the lower tier chairs
I have this issue