This is what we are going to use since there is no way to extend the stock ones far enough to touch the axles :) www.dirtboundoffroad.com/rear-u-bolt-spring-plate-and-bump-stop-mount-jeep-cherokee-xj.html
We actually had them made at a local driveshaft shop for the front axle just the stock tj rubi 1330 joint at the transfer case and got a conversion u joint for now to the Dana 50...the rear shaft we got a Tom Woods because they knew exactly what flange to meet up the Rocktrac with and the right flange to meet the 2005 steeling pinion flange we had...made life simpler after we got the wrong parts a few times...awesome choice man you will love the Artec
Thank you so much and I could not agree more...Jesus has allowed so many blessings and struggles in our family that has made us who we are...just have to stay focused on Him and make sure all this “stuff” is always second place in our hearts 👍🏻take care
Iron Man Fab...its their XJAX kit which includes the shackles and relocation brackets...they are a small group of guys that build them on order so expect 3ish weeks but the work and fit is SO awesome...www.ironman4x4fab.com/product-page/xjax-kit
They are hard to find now since they are not produced any more...in the last 3 months we got a 5th matching wheel for our LJ project...Realtruck.com just put in a 2003 excursion for the vehicle and that will get the 8x170mm and the 5.71 backspacing realtruck.com/p/american-racing-machined-ar969-ansen-off-road-wheels/v/ford/excursion/2003/
Awesome!! We are running the BDS 5 inch lift springs with Iron Man Fab Shackle relocation and shackles fully adjustable so we were able to dial it in right where we wanted it! So cool to hear about another XJ on tons!
@@rockquestoff-road2839 awesome build did you make the truss for the link setup or order it somewhere? Just wondering cause the 99 would of been leaf spring.
Yep leaf sprung and 69.25 inches wide instead of the 72 inches wide that the 05+ dana 60s are...helped keep it sane on the width...we used the Artec TJ Superduty swap kit...took some patience with the welding and the clean up of the axle brackets but really made it clean and strong
just the regular with the factory XJ booster...you hear all sorts of recomendations on forums but we are installing this and trying it first...I will let you know how it works out...brakes stop great now just a REALLY spongy pedal...which seems like lack of volume of fluid which the new master will remedy
No rubbing at all...they get close but not too close....we had to grind a bit from the steering knuckles where the tie rod ends attach to clear the wheel...backspacing is 5.71 inches...American Racing Ansen Off Road Wheels 17x9 part number AR96979087518 really worked well to keep the Jeep sort of normal looking and not super wide
Its from Rusty's...their new Trail Bumper with the receiver hitch built in....fits really close and perfect...so far it has been exceptional! heres a link for more info www.rustysoffroad.com/rusty-s-bumpers-trail-bumper-rear-w-receiver-xj.html
Love the videos. Gets me pumped up for mine! Do you have clearance for a fuel skid? Worried my factor skid and 5" springs are going to cause some binding with the 1" perch stretch.
Awesome!!!! We got rid of the BDS one and got a angled one with a frame crossmember double shear mount to get a better angle and have more durable track bar bushings! www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspension/jeep-trac-bar-panhard-bar-items/jeep-xj-cherokee-84-01-mj-comanche-84-9-adjustable-track-bar/rusty-s-track-bar-adjustable-hd-track-bar-frame-mount-xj-zj.html
Rockquest Off-Road thank you for your input. Im in a pinch on parts for the time being I just need it driveable. Is there any reason the BDS bar wouldn't work? I'm only on 4.5" coils. Planning to use superduty steering as well. Thanks rock quest!
No reason why it shouldn’t work great… If anything it’ll be a little bit too long in that case you can easily cut the rod end off shorten it after measuring four times and re-weld it… But it may just fit perfect… We had just had enough of the bushings from that brand wearing out every six months LOL
Hahaha thankfully never have had a frame issues…I think a lot of people just go with frame stiffeners when they don’t really need them in the first place…now if you have a 2 door and it’s maybe a few years older than ours with some fatigue perhaps. With all the wheeling and 1 tons on our four door we have zero stress cracks…no stuck doors when flexing everything works seamlessly…only mod if you need it really or else you are adding a lot of extra wait for no reason 👍🏻
Awesome! We used the 5 inch BDS springs we already had with the 8.5 inch long arm lift...we removed the 2 inch block and 1 inch shackle and replaced it with Iron Man Fab's XJAX kit shackle relocation (www.ironman4x4fab.com/product-page/xjax-kit) and dialed it in to the perfect shackle angle and lift we needed...absolutely love their parts and the rear flexes just about as much as the front now which it never did before...14-5 inches of wheel travel in rear and 17-18 inches in the front. the iron man stuff takes around 3 weeks to get because they are a small operation that builds kits when they are ordered btw
Rockquest Off-Road thats pretty sweet flex! what a crazy amount in the rear. i was just wondering cuz it looked stretched in the rear also howd you do your brakes? any issues with the master cylinder?
Using Rustys HD mount and yes stock Superduty steering drag link and tie rod for now for simplicity! Just have to ream the XJ pitman arm for the superduty drag link taper...www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Tapered_Reamer/Custom_tie_rods you will need this 1-1/2" taper per foot or 7.125 degree included angle reamer for the pitman arm....we are running stock BDS 8.5 inch lift stainless brake lines...they bolted right up to the super duty calipers on our 1999 F250 front end
@@outwheeled633 I would not know that one...ours was out of a 99 and I know they changed the drag link and tire rod style but I dont know if they changed the taper...I owuld imagine its very close if its not identical...just ream slow and test fit until you have it where you want it and crank it down :) That axle is 2.5 inches wider than the one we used in this build also :) good luck!
i dont mean to sound like a pest by asking so many questions butttt... any updates? im just trying to see how yours is going so that way i know how to finsh mine hahahaha.. got a write up on the build any where online?
Hahaha no worries man. I will put something together soon on that...btw after getting it together now we have decided to stick with the stock master cylinder etc. brakes work fine actually...just got to get over the spongy pedal but it will lock the tires up so its really fine. The stock superduty steering drag link and tie rod work perfect just had to ream the pitman arm a little bit...ill put up a walk around today or tomorrow :)
Hahhaha it was a fun morning with the grandkids for my dad! They were a Christmas present! I stepped out with him for the moment to do a update on the Jeep and get some measurements :)
Like your setup, couple little things and you'll have it whipped. Clean too. Haha, I'm digging those pajamas.
Nice XJ but, I'd expect a guy wearing Croc's and snowman PJ's to have a JK lol. P.S I'm surprised he knew what the sway bar disconnects were.
Been wheeling for over 35 years and that day was grandkids day over lol those PJs were his Christmas present :P
That’s hilarious
It must run in the jeans
Ain't nothing wrong with crocs and pj's. All day everyday! Jk life 🖕 😆
Perfect! I'm eager to find out what you use for the bump stops in rear
This is what we are going to use since there is no way to extend the stock ones far enough to touch the axles :) www.dirtboundoffroad.com/rear-u-bolt-spring-plate-and-bump-stop-mount-jeep-cherokee-xj.html
Bumpstops over rated
that jeep is sick... love the double piston rear disc brakes... plus everything else. haha
Thank you brother!!
Love the look. Dont hack the fenders
Ty man!
What drive shafts are you using? The axels look like 99 60’s that’s exactly what I’m putting mine with the arctec truss
We actually had them made at a local driveshaft shop for the front axle just the stock tj rubi 1330 joint at the transfer case and got a conversion u joint for now to the Dana 50...the rear shaft we got a Tom Woods because they knew exactly what flange to meet up the Rocktrac with and the right flange to meet the 2005 steeling pinion flange we had...made life simpler after we got the wrong parts a few times...awesome choice man you will love the Artec
My friend God has blessed you in so many ways I love your big house and Shopsss good for you man great video
Thank you so much and I could not agree more...Jesus has allowed so many blessings and struggles in our family that has made us who we are...just have to stay focused on Him and make sure all this “stuff” is always second place in our hearts 👍🏻take care
Wow! what a testimony to share openly.
Are those factory fender flares? If not do you know which ones they are?
Yes they are the factory flares! We just cut them carefully to make the room for the tires to tuck and still look somewhat factory
I’m current doing the same swap is that the stock superduty steering with the pitman arm reamed out for the bigger rod end?
Exactly
Got any videos of Wheeling your new set up yet
not yet! Getting over the flu for the last 3 weeks lol
Rockquest Off-Road i feel your pain all 3 of my kids have had it for about 2 now it seems
Man wow...it is horrible...I got it first then it went one by one through our family...no joke man it slammed me in bed for 5 days straight...
Are those rear leaf springs specially made or are they xj springs? If xj springs who is the manufacturer?
They are XJ BDS 5 inch lift rear leafs. They are the springs that BDS uses in their 8.5 inch lift system. Thanks!
What brand of rear shackle's are those?
Iron Man Fab...its their XJAX kit which includes the shackles and relocation brackets...they are a small group of guys that build them on order so expect 3ish weeks but the work and fit is SO awesome...www.ironman4x4fab.com/product-page/xjax-kit
@@rockquestoff-road2839 Good guys! I have ironman motor mounts and shackle relocators! 👍
what size of springs you have in that xj? 6" lift? Nice rig.
They are actually BDS 8.5 inch springs all around!
Thank you for the kind words really enjoyed this build
Where did you buy those wheels? I've been looking and can't seem to find them, they have a excellent backspacing
They are hard to find now since they are not produced any more...in the last 3 months we got a 5th matching wheel for our LJ project...Realtruck.com just put in a 2003 excursion for the vehicle and that will get the 8x170mm and the 5.71 backspacing
realtruck.com/p/american-racing-machined-ar969-ansen-off-road-wheels/v/ford/excursion/2003/
@@rockquestoff-road2839 awesome, I'll get some, have they been pretty durable off-road for a alloy wheel?
Yes we have several big scrapes and gouges in the aluminum and it just makes them look more awesome 😆
@@rockquestoff-road2839 awesome hahaha
I just finished my one ton swap on my xj. Curious what rear leaf springs your running?
Awesome!! We are running the BDS 5 inch lift springs with Iron Man Fab Shackle relocation and shackles fully adjustable so we were able to dial it in right where we wanted it! So cool to hear about another XJ on tons!
What kind of lift are u using and how big is the lift
It’s a BDS 8.5 inch long arm system!
BDS 8.5 inch long arm!!
thanks, I'm going to look into it
You should join Texas XJs on Facebook, if your on Facebook and show that thing off a little lol
What year was the front axle and what coils springs were used?
1999 Ford F-250 and we used 8.5 inch lift Rusty’s XJ springs 👍🏻
@@rockquestoff-road2839 awesome build did you make the truss for the link setup or order it somewhere? Just wondering cause the 99 would of been leaf spring.
Yep leaf sprung and 69.25 inches wide instead of the 72 inches wide that the 05+ dana 60s are...helped keep it sane on the width...we used the Artec TJ Superduty swap kit...took some patience with the welding and the clean up of the axle brackets but really made it clean and strong
@@rockquestoff-road2839 thank you for the info I’m doing a similar build.
No problem! Send us a link when you get it built! It’s going to be awesome!
What back bumper is that?
It’s the discontinued Rustys trail bumper might be able to find one on Craigslist!
Thanks
Awesome job
Thank you man! Sorry catching up on comments! :)
Rockquest Off-Road no worries
Curious, are these axles narrowed?
No they are not…high backspacing wheels brought the width down
good for rock climbing
Oh yes!!!!
so you did the hydro boost master cylinder? or just the regular Ford master cylinder with your Factory xj booster?
just the regular with the factory XJ booster...you hear all sorts of recomendations on forums but we are installing this and trying it first...I will let you know how it works out...brakes stop great now just a REALLY spongy pedal...which seems like lack of volume of fluid which the new master will remedy
Rockquest Off-Road ok thank you hopefully it works well so i can do it also
Also whats the backspacing on the rims you using? and rubbing issues wheb turning?
No rubbing at all...they get close but not too close....we had to grind a bit from the steering knuckles where the tie rod ends attach to clear the wheel...backspacing is 5.71 inches...American Racing Ansen Off Road Wheels 17x9 part number AR96979087518 really worked well to keep the Jeep sort of normal looking and not super wide
What rear bumper is that?
Its from Rusty's...their new Trail Bumper with the receiver hitch built in....fits really close and perfect...so far it has been exceptional! heres a link for more info
www.rustysoffroad.com/rusty-s-bumpers-trail-bumper-rear-w-receiver-xj.html
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Thanks man!!!
Love the videos. Gets me pumped up for mine! Do you have clearance for a fuel skid? Worried my factor skid and 5" springs are going to cause some binding with the 1" perch stretch.
Dude we have tons of room with this setup...will of course depend on your total lift height but should be fine! Thanks for the kind words!
Rockquest Off-Road rear axle is in and driving. No joke about the brakes. Did you guys retain the BDS track bar for the front?
Awesome!!!! We got rid of the BDS one and got a angled one with a frame crossmember double shear mount to get a better angle and have more durable track bar bushings! www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspension/jeep-trac-bar-panhard-bar-items/jeep-xj-cherokee-84-01-mj-comanche-84-9-adjustable-track-bar/rusty-s-track-bar-adjustable-hd-track-bar-frame-mount-xj-zj.html
Rockquest Off-Road thank you for your input. Im in a pinch on parts for the time being I just need it driveable. Is there any reason the BDS bar wouldn't work? I'm only on 4.5" coils. Planning to use superduty steering as well. Thanks rock quest!
No reason why it shouldn’t work great… If anything it’ll be a little bit too long in that case you can easily cut the rod end off shorten it after measuring four times and re-weld it… But it may just fit perfect… We had just had enough of the bushings from that brand wearing out every six months LOL
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Hahaha thankfully never have had a frame issues…I think a lot of people just go with frame stiffeners when they don’t really need them in the first place…now if you have a 2 door and it’s maybe a few years older than ours with some fatigue perhaps. With all the wheeling and 1 tons on our four door we have zero stress cracks…no stuck doors when flexing everything works seamlessly…only mod if you need it really or else you are adding a lot of extra wait for no reason 👍🏻
i did the same axles in my xj with 40s what rear leaf springs are those?
Awesome! We used the 5 inch BDS springs we already had with the 8.5 inch long arm lift...we removed the 2 inch block and 1 inch shackle and replaced it with Iron Man Fab's XJAX kit shackle relocation (www.ironman4x4fab.com/product-page/xjax-kit) and dialed it in to the perfect shackle angle and lift we needed...absolutely love their parts and the rear flexes just about as much as the front now which it never did before...14-5 inches of wheel travel in rear and 17-18 inches in the front. the iron man stuff takes around 3 weeks to get because they are a small operation that builds kits when they are ordered btw
Rockquest Off-Road thats pretty sweet flex! what a crazy amount in the rear. i was just wondering cuz it looked stretched in the rear also howd you do your brakes? any issues with the master cylinder?
Thanks!!!! We did stretch it with new spring plates and perches...we are running the stock master cylinder and will see how it goes
What track bar mount are you using? An stock sd steering?
Using Rustys HD mount and yes stock Superduty steering drag link and tie rod for now for simplicity! Just have to ream the XJ pitman arm for the superduty drag link taper...www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Tapered_Reamer/Custom_tie_rods
you will need this 1-1/2" taper per foot or 7.125 degree included angle reamer for the pitman arm....we are running stock BDS 8.5 inch lift stainless brake lines...they bolted right up to the super duty calipers on our 1999 F250 front end
Thanks for the info! What long arm kit u running?
Its a 8.5 inch BDS long arm!
My sd axle is a 05 up do you know if it uses the same ream?
@@outwheeled633 I would not know that one...ours was out of a 99 and I know they changed the drag link and tire rod style but I dont know if they changed the taper...I owuld imagine its very close if its not identical...just ream slow and test fit until you have it where you want it and crank it down :) That axle is 2.5 inches wider than the one we used in this build also :) good luck!
Flex J...
i dont mean to sound like a pest by asking so many questions butttt... any updates? im just trying to see how yours is going so that way i know how to finsh mine hahahaha.. got a write up on the build any where online?
Hahaha no worries man. I will put something together soon on that...btw after getting it together now we have decided to stick with the stock master cylinder etc. brakes work fine actually...just got to get over the spongy pedal but it will lock the tires up so its really fine. The stock superduty steering drag link and tie rod work perfect just had to ream the pitman arm a little bit...ill put up a walk around today or tomorrow :)
i want it. my jeep needs a motor. anybody got a 4.0 layn around not in use? i would give it a good home.lol
Hahah! Well my buddy sold his...keep an eye peeled on craigslist :)
What area are you in? Theres a jy in waynesboro pa that sells good motors for $400.
Why are you wearing pajamas?LOL......
Hahhaha it was a fun morning with the grandkids for my dad! They were a Christmas present! I stepped out with him for the moment to do a update on the Jeep and get some measurements :)