The Divide: Fallout's Lost Society | Complete Lore Explained

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  • Today we explore the history behind the most devastated area out within the Mojave Wasteland known to all as the Divide.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:50 - Before The War
    5:46 - After The War
    11:31 - The Divide's Downfall
    13:55 - Rise Of Ulysses
    20:09 - If The Bombs Go Off
    21:33 - Ulysses' Send Off
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  • @WiseFish
    @WiseFish  หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Okay I should have worded it better and NOT said ultimately the two fight because you can speak him out of it. Stupid on my part but reason was I wanted to talk about the destruction of the NCR and Legion.
    TLDR: You can talk Ulysses out of it and it’s not cannon that the bombs go off!

    • @iceicebabie
      @iceicebabie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For this video I'll just operate on the idea of it being canon. Oh well lol! Good stuff man

  • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
    @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    This is a certified *Bull Bear Bull Bear Bull Bear Bull Bear* Moment

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      You forgot the bearing bulls and bulling bears.

    • @SAOrules
      @SAOrules หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You forgot to prep that bull

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      What's it gonna be, huh, HUH?
      Bear?
      B e r e...
      Or Bull?
      B u l...
      "I have no idea what Ulysses is saying."

    • @NativeMain
      @NativeMain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love the stock market

    • @brianlarson7730
      @brianlarson7730 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​❤😂😮😮😮😮😮❤

  • @Cresta-fm8uj
    @Cresta-fm8uj 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    "nothing worth scavenging" mann they got like 10 missiles, 4 stimpacks and 30 5.56 ammo in every container u search!!

  • @russellsales7796
    @russellsales7796 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    He forgot to mention what happens when you manage to talk down Ulysses. You don't HAVE to kill him.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Yep I should had added an emphasis on the talking him out of it honestly. My bad!

    • @aaroniscool7521
      @aaroniscool7521 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Talking him down and fighting the marked men together was always my cannon ending for Lonesome Road. Hands down my favorite new Vegas dlc

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      2 couriers burying the hatchet, teaming up, and fighting raving madmen to escape is always the canon ending.

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    The Marked Men really did not deserve their fate. Fighting a war under two different banners that Ulysses never shuts up about, now forever trapped trying to survive in a sand and radiation blasted part of the wasteland. No more NCR, no more Legion, just the Marked Men. The people there wanted a united faction of NCR and Legion, and they got what they asked for, just not the way they would have wanted.

    • @sponge_playzz
      @sponge_playzz 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Fallout loves to give people there wishes monkey paw style

  • @QaRajhCreations
    @QaRajhCreations หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Ah Ulysses...
    Take the "pettiness" slider, and crank it up to max, add a pinch misguided understanding of history and ethical philosophy, with a side-order of everything is black or white, and you've got Ulysses.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Apart from that…cool guy

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@WiseFish Cool voice. Too bad it has such a fixation on bulls and bears.

  • @CliffSedge-nu5fv
    @CliffSedge-nu5fv 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I just want to remind everyone that Ulysses' voice actor also did the voice of Biological Research Station in the Sink, Big Mt.

  • @Solomdoobler
    @Solomdoobler หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I thought Graham was burned and thrown into the Grand Canyon

    • @ryhi5
      @ryhi5 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      He was! And then He got better!

    • @SuperMrHiggins
      @SuperMrHiggins 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Guy's a badass.

  • @jasonx1174
    @jasonx1174 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I always love seeing the lore for the DLC. It's especially nice here since sometimes it gets confusing to piece together at times.
    Also, outside of enjoying the journey and story. I love the loot in his expansion. Elite Riot Gear is easily top 5 to get in the entire game.

  • @BilltheBrewer
    @BilltheBrewer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I've always been confused about where this was supposed to be. Ashton, NV is just outside of Death Valley, and Death Valley has active faultlines. So that makes sense, except for an idyllic green community outside one of the hottest places in the world. Is that where the weather control from Big MT, comes in?

    • @CliffSedge-nu5fv
      @CliffSedge-nu5fv 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, The Divide is Death Valley.

  • @williampoole1742
    @williampoole1742 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    What about The Divide's sister region, The Multiply?
    (X-Files theme)

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What about the cousins, Add and Subtract?

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "The Mathlands are a dangerous place, they consist of the Divide, it's dangerous inhabitants, and any and all equations you can dream of."
      -Ulysses, probably.

    • @CliffSedge-nu5fv
      @CliffSedge-nu5fv 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      < Think Tank thinking intensifies >

  • @GOgrendURself
    @GOgrendURself หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Fallout tv show could totally use the divide for season 2, maybe thats how dad gets to new vegas

    • @mcbdllc2848
      @mcbdllc2848 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      They didn't do new vegas justice in that CGI ending 😂

    • @neurabunni940
      @neurabunni940 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ^its shown for like .5 of a second wtf do you mean “it didn’t do it justice” no shit lol

    • @mcbdllc2848
      @mcbdllc2848 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @neurabunni940 good thing I didn't ask you anime porn̈ watching lil boy

  • @HunterRoland-po7if
    @HunterRoland-po7if หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Thank you, Wise Fish! Can you please cover Frank Horrigan, and the Republic of Dave.

    • @Full_Metal_Courier
      @Full_Metal_Courier หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd love a Frank Horrigan video!

    • @redrandom716
      @redrandom716 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I forgot about the republic of Dave hahahha

  • @RetiredMemeLord
    @RetiredMemeLord หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    only in Fallout where the army would build Nuke Silos on a Fault Line.

  • @marshaltito7232
    @marshaltito7232 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks WiseFish, I really appreciate your lore videos. You cover a lot of the games I enjoy so much.

  • @Kstaann
    @Kstaann 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad to see this channel growing, first found it from the metro vids a couple years ago

  • @TheProjectVoid
    @TheProjectVoid หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Joshua Grahm was thrown of into the grand canyon not the hoover dam.

  • @Burned-Legate
    @Burned-Legate หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Don't know why this video makes it seem like Ulysses' death and the nukes launching is undisputed canon.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Again should have done better with the ending part of the video. Wanted to talk about the 2 nuked areas of NCR and Legion but certainly made it sound like those were the canon endings. Sorry

    • @YoungTroy23
      @YoungTroy23 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fallout 4 takes place after New Vegas and you see through Kellog’s memories that the NCR is still around so I doubt it was destroyed by the nukes. As for the Legion that’s a different story.

    • @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
      @ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@YoungTroy23 While I highly doubt that the nukes were connonically launched, Kellog's memories do not invalidate that being the case. It was the trade route between the NCR and the Mojave that gets nuked, not the main NCR territory or a city.

    • @thatrealawkwardguy
      @thatrealawkwardguy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@YoungTroy23isn’t Kellogg canonically like 100 years old and the memories he had were not dated so don’t take them as recent to the date Fallout 4 takes place, it could be possible those memories are from 50+ years before the events of Fallout 4 so they don’t mean a thing regarding the events of New Vegas could have been decades since he las saw or travels to California

    • @richter6699
      @richter6699 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@YoungTroy23The show just showed us the "fall" of Shady Sands and gave us NCR remnants as a bunch of degenerate Raiders. So by the same vein we could assume they don't end up too well off.
      But the show also sucks ass and should be ignored entirely, so there's that 😂

  • @silentperspective7984
    @silentperspective7984 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great Video Mate, Hope you do one for Honest Hearts

  • @aaroniscool7521
    @aaroniscool7521 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Ulysses has got to be one of the best characters we have ever gotten from a Fallout Game.

    • @connorsmith1005
      @connorsmith1005 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually just make that from a game. Wait make that one of the best characters.

    • @TaskForce-fy4jk
      @TaskForce-fy4jk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He annoys me so much like bro bear bull bear bull bear bull bear bull bear bull you destroyed my town >:((

    • @davidroth2061
      @davidroth2061 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TaskForce-fy4jk Yeah I mean he hates the courier because you delivered a package. It's not like we knew what was in the box

    • @justinterrell7020
      @justinterrell7020 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidroth2061this always bugged me. I get being blinded by anger and grief but come on, the courier helped build that place through his actions; if Ulysses stopped to logic for a second, between that and the fact most couriers don’t know what they’re delivering, he’d know it wasn’t 6’s fault. But then the writers wouldn’t know how to progress the plot I guess

    • @osu_mania_4203
      @osu_mania_4203 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@justinterrell7020my personal headcannon for this is that deep down Ulysses knew that the courier wasn’t at fault for what happened but he needed someone or something to place his hate and grief on, he needed to find a reason to keep going after only he survived weather that reason was found in logic or not

  • @thatrealawkwardguy
    @thatrealawkwardguy หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Graham was throw off the Grand Canyon not the Hoover dam

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We don't talk about the burned man around here.

  • @mrsauceman6825
    @mrsauceman6825 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great vid as always fish, whenever you (eventually ) get done with the fallout lore stuff maybe you should try exploring the lore of FNV DUST 👀

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Right off the bat, a montage of the wasteland.

  • @SuperMrHiggins
    @SuperMrHiggins 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    +respect for including the Scorpio bit. Best side character.

  • @whitebaron13
    @whitebaron13 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wish we could see what The Divide looked like before the nukes ripped it open.

  • @KingBigbirdGaming
    @KingBigbirdGaming 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some people don't like lonesome road. Me this dlc is the true ending for new vegas. Hoover dam was the epilogue.

  • @justiceforest9095
    @justiceforest9095 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ulysses is easily one of the most interesting characters in the Fallout universe. I'd love it if he made an appearance in a future game.

  • @Megus_Degus
    @Megus_Degus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Am i listening to a bass test or watching a wisefish video? no one will ever know...

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool vid bro.😺

  • @brothers_of_nod
    @brothers_of_nod 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish we could have seen some of The Divide before this.

  • @user-gn1mo3rz7c
    @user-gn1mo3rz7c 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Joshua was thrown into the grand canyon not off the dam

  • @jubeltobiassitorus3051
    @jubeltobiassitorus3051 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you make a lore about rapture and columbia, pls make lore about mr house and new vegas

  • @LyriXris
    @LyriXris 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video

  • @luigitheboar8699
    @luigitheboar8699 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do a vid on Legate Lanius?

  • @blakebailey22
    @blakebailey22 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So who made the package that made the nukes go off underground, and why did they make it?

    • @areizagan
      @areizagan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      probably made before the war by america and it was made to most likely launch the nukes after china nuked america, but they never got the chance

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a pre war device found in Navarro after the NCR took it from the Enclave. I've seen a theory that it was legion sabotage of the NCR, a spy altering the device to detonate the nukes rather than simply arm them for launch.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a pre war device found in Navarro after the NCR took it from the Enclave. I've seen a theory that it was legion sabotage of the NCR, a spy altering the device to detonate the nukes rather than simply arm them for launch.

  • @thisiswhywecanthavenicethi5809
    @thisiswhywecanthavenicethi5809 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If u think about it the tv show isn’t far off how a community such as shady sands could be wiped from the map as seen by the courier delivering a package an accidental destruction but the Tv shows a malice reason to wipe a town out just because he wanted his wife to suffer so it shows literally that any community even in the dc wastes and Boston’s it could be reduced without warning

    • @freeguy3894
      @freeguy3894 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought the same after watching the show and finishing my NV run.
      Also, interestingly it was the NV fans that were complaining about nuking of Shady Sands, which is weird considering that Lonesome road is entirely about that.

  • @Milkex
    @Milkex หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    neat!

  • @tetaniwha597
    @tetaniwha597 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Much love from nz

  • @Deathwish777
    @Deathwish777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what's funny is we still don't know who the coureur really is or where they came from.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bruh, wasn't expecting a simpsons clip.

  • @noneed4me2n7
    @noneed4me2n7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The DLC was fun to play but the story just didn’t seem too make much sense from a technical standpoint to me. Why would the chip auto launch all those nukes. Should’ve tied that to a choice I feel versus random chance.

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So it's kind of done that way on purpose. The courier doesn't remember going through the divide, and surely doesn't remember causing it's destruction. He/she is like us, wandering through, getting blamed for things by Ulysses for events completely out of our control.
      It's kind of convoluted and confusing on purpose.

    • @unknowncalibur5242
      @unknowncalibur5242 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah this dlc is just a fever dream I honestly thought the ending would be the courier waking up from a dream

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a pre war device found in Navarro after the NCR took it from the Enclave. But as for why they went off like that, I remember a theory that it was because the legion sabotaged it, a spy altering the device to detonate the nukes rather than simply arm them for launch.

    • @pisy183
      @pisy183 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@jayl5032i get it, but i must admit ulysses talking about things the player did not do, regarding things the player did not remember felt really alienating. I liked it more when the courier was a random guy

    • @pisy183
      @pisy183 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you can do a lot of cool stuff in the game, it leaves you complete freedom so getting told this stuff and not having any agency whatsoever felt jarring compared to the test of the game. Also, ulysses talks like a 14 years old kid who just discovered poetry. Really cool how it connexyed to the rest of the dlcs and the main game though. It was also fun finally meeting a character that is as capable of influencing the events as the player character

  • @villings
    @villings หลายเดือนก่อน

    𝐚 𝐰 𝐞 𝐬 𝐨 𝐦 𝐞 _!!!_

  • @jamesscalzo3033
    @jamesscalzo3033 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved the video @WiseFish! Can't wait for the next video man! Looking into the Fallout Lore on all the Factions within the Games and Hearing about the different Areas is a pretty good idea to help better understand the Area and Time of each Game.
    F0ck the NCR and F0ck the Legion! Go with the Boomers and the Annihilation Run at Hoover Dam!

  • @phantomhurricane666
    @phantomhurricane666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the tunnellers.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    SCIENCE!!!

  • @mikeyrocks4274
    @mikeyrocks4274 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I nuke both factions before I decide which one I’m joining so I can get both of the armors and get to use those free passes

  • @austinguthrie5528
    @austinguthrie5528 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did the DLC on like lvl 18, should not have survived but did and made my overencumbered butt out of the divide with my ill gotten goods. Talked our flag obsessed boy out of nuking the NCR. And instead nuked them and the Legion myself. Now about to make my way back as a double-double agent for the Legion/NCR and help/backstab them while empowering myself as only Courier has the nuclear god given right to own the Mojave. And maybe finally body Benny while the Friends theme song is blaring in the background. RIP Matthew Perry

  • @firespur
    @firespur 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    New Vegas makes the coolest settlement then they nuked it

  • @unknowncalibur5242
    @unknowncalibur5242 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This dlc could be perfectly explained to me and still wouldn't make sense. Like the Courier just delivered a nuke activator on accident? Theres also the tunnellers which are never seen before and never seen again even though they are apparently this great threat (fallout show likely disproves this. Also because robots liked Ulysses he was able to survive all the nuclear blasts while literally every other person died or became a feral ghoul thing that organized into and ncr/legion alliance thingy. Also theres a courier v courier plot line going on for some reason. Theres also warheads you can shoot with a laser i'm assuming just to add something random. I also disliked the divide when playing through, it was boring 1 npc thats at the end, no interesting storylines, no interesting encounters, and nothing really fun

  • @Fulltimeply2
    @Fulltimeply2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    red fo4 ghouls

  • @SupimBryan
    @SupimBryan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fallout episode 3 when? ):

  • @KenwrathKDK
    @KenwrathKDK หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ulysses is Bull bear Bull Bear Bull Bear BULLSHIT

  • @MrDemonKitty666
    @MrDemonKitty666 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @funrun07haan50
    @funrun07haan50 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MY POOR POOR TROOPERS 😢I M SO SORRY we sended u to the divide i hope my troopers may rest in peace O legion hope u rest in peaces hope it hurts legion😂 NCR and proud