Philly Drivers Stuck in Snow (2/21/15)
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- Green Lane, with its steep slope and aggressive curves is one of the most dangerous streets in Philadelphia during snow and ice storms. This video shows captures the scene out front this afternoon, as drivers struggled to gain traction along the slippery roads. Many were stuck for long stretches, while other motorists became impatient waiting. video © Roger Barone/photos from philly.
All of those that were stuck likely believed the tire salesman that said, "oh yeah, these all season tires work great in snow! You'll be fine".
I'd love to know how much weight was in the Ford workman's van. For being RWD and starting from a stop, he did just fine! By far, the best 2WD in the video. Also notice the AWD Subaru Impreza hatchback that easily followed him up the hill. The BMW sedan likely had the X-drive all wheel drive, too.
snowrocket you're right..BMW 335xi
3:00 slowest drag race ever recorded xD
And the winner is... NISSAN!
MadlySevered yeah that made me sick watching it. Nissans are incredibly shitty in the snow for some reason.
toadcat15 Amy front wheel drive car without snow tires is shitty in the snow, AWD nissans are fine in the snow
two dumbasses thinking the other one is a dumbass
Yup
I like the lady in the explorer sport just riding up the curb like nothing
3:30 .....slowest drag race ever
Lol. that was my first thought.
lol the guy in the subie behind the white truck goes " is there a problem?"
3:36 Like watching two turtles race on a greased track :))
+JudyGurl Yeah, "It's Nissan against Nissan in a battle of supremacy for who has the crappiest tires for snow!"
"Should we push them?"
"I think they're going to be all right" (it would ruin my film to help)
In Europa we use in winter winter tyres and in the mountains snow chains ... Really funny!
The title should be "Philly Drivers Suck in Snow".
lfsracer79 lol I thought that's what the title was. lol I assumed : p
Better than that. "It's Always Snowy in Philadelphia".
Rule#1 you need momentum to get up a hill in snow. Start quick and don't stop until you are on the top.
3:40 Old Altima VS new Altima
Except for their exterior, not technology improvement from Nissan over the years...
Thank modern tire and wheel design, wider tires that float instead of biting, and lower profile tires with harder rubber. Older front drive cars with a bit narrower tires and higher side walls, and softer rubber were great in snow and ice. I rarely got stuck, but now you need all wheel drive or four wheel drive.
Had a 1991 Chevrolet Lumina that was equipped with 195/75/14 tires from the factory, and you are right skinny or narrow tires are so much better in the snow. Wide tires are great in the summer for handling, but terrible in the winter. I put Cooper Xtra Trac since discontinued tires on it and it was just a wonderful winter car.
use winter tyres
and this is why the city closes off this street during severe winter weather. I remember when a trash truck lost its brakes going down Green lane. No one killed, but pretty good damage.
The race of 2 Altimas. Old school gonna win?
joegolden481 yeah the older altima kicked the new ones a hole
Nice snail race! ☺
the altima drag race is so painful to watch, i love it
Buy snow/winter tires.
Once we had a very cheap car (Dacia) with winter tires.
When al the expensive fancy cars couldn't drive in the snow, we drove without any problem. :-)
You just have to spent money on tires and not on the eyecatching things /cars.... My opinion.
You're right. I had a 1999 Ford Escort wagon (FWD) with winter tires, I'd pass 4x4 and AWD vehicles on the highway no issues. Because they had summer tires. Even uphill the winter tires make a huge difference.
that is 50% of the problem here, people that want to spent their money where it looks cool, tires aren't cool. that RWD van drive right past the FWD minivan due to it's tires, plain and simple
Bob Craen My dad drives a 400+HP Mustang GT year round here in Michigan. The thing is pretty awesome in snow with the winter tires he has.
"This is dedicated to those that believe they can make it easily through a foot of snow in their front wheel drive." You do know that there are tires called Snow tires, right? this is pathetic..
When you write wrong in a serious sitiation xD
1:40 That slope is a piece of cake for the van.
this is what happens when you dont have snow tires on
+janna graham That BMW must have had snows on. The van too probably. That FWD Altima even was super stuck cause at the bottom of the hill with their all seasons.
+Josh G (Guoster) And the BMW was a X-drive ;)
+janna graham Winter tires are the only way to go during the cold months. They make a world of difference.
+ameisenrucksack1 ich denke, Josh meinte das 3er Caprio! ;) und nicht den X5!
Ich mein schon auch den 3er (Übrigens ne Limo)... Der hat unterhalb des Seitenblinkers am Kotflügel vorn das kleine X-drive Logo. Allrad ist bei BMW in nahezu jedem Modell zu haben, sogar im 1er und längst nicht mehr auf die X-Baureihen beschränkt ;)
If snow tires, especially studded for ice and hard packed snow won't help in said conditions, the drag tires and tires specifically designed for NASCAR , rain tires, mud tires, are all just a gimmick. Go put summer tires on a Jeep Wrangler, even with lockers, and see how poorly it does in extreme off road conditions.
Im from alaska i just moved here and that snow is nothing copaired to what we get up in alaska
Stephen Helvitson in Alaska you don't have fwd sedans with summer tires.
3:00 A front wheel drive drag race up hill on summer tires in the snow. Good Old Front Wheel Drive!
Wrong just wrong watch those idiots sit there and spin.
@scrambler69-xk3kv That was sarcasm. Front wheel drive is stupid.
totally insane...everybody driving with summer tires!!! no wonder insurance for the cars is so high in states! tell your covernment to allow studded tires like here in finland.
482lost studded ruin the roads.
482LOST, Most of the Midwest bans them, that and chains. Most of the west allows them and many times require chains. I have been it the situation where I was required to at least carry chains. This is when I had a 4x4 with 31" tires that were mud and snow.
They are called Americans... and are knowns for being the most stupid people on the planet. And so also in this field they are convinced that summer tyres (ora like they call all season) are good in winter!
Draggy654 philly always gets snow.
effemmelle, Do you realize you are dissing America on a social media site that was developed and is operated in San Bruno, California. Believe that you are a " Eurotroll".
watching these cars struggle to get up the hill is like watching 2 snails in the slowest drag race recorded
🐢🐢
Driving in the public is volontarily. If you can't stay home.
This is a message to all who got no snow/winter tires
The problem is NOT the snow but summer tires on winter roads. Whith PROPER winter tires there would not be a "winter disaster" video at all.
Lemme guess, Andorra, Manayunk..I live in a one square mile town Conshohocken PA minutes from Philadelphia and we have hills that are just as steep as this.
Theres this amazing thing called snow tires.
spiffca
I know those people are dumb
Which will do no good on these Hills genius
@@jdtv...9134 were you driving one of those pos altimas?
@@doylee469 no
Imagine being in that cab van heading to work last minute and boom.... 😂
Sure, I'll try my "all seasons" this season as well....
if you struggle to climb a hill in a front wheel drive car, turn around and try in reverse. much more weights gets transferred to the drive wheels that way.
3:30 the slowest race ever.
This is a good way to put 2,000 miles on the odometer.
I Love The Ford Pull Up and asking if people are stuck like its nothing lol. GG Little Ford
I love how the Econoline with an open diff. and not stability control walked right around these FWD junks with all their modern tech.
snow tires FTW
Even the rwd BMW just decided she/he had someplace to be lol. Rwd for the win
Aj, she was going down the hill 🤔 only had to back up slightly and it was a 4wd...
I can smell the transmission from here oh my God.
I can already imagine them cussing each other out in the cabin with their philly accent
You don't slam on your brakes on a icy hill, you pump them or GENTLY push on the brake pedal! You want to help your vehicle keep as much traction as possible
+Cole Mahoy I think you have it wrong. The solution is to crank the wheel against the lock and mash that brake pedal to the floor!
Haha. Kidding, of course. Gently brake or attempt to turn. Neither at the same time.
Not really new cars with abs will take care of that for you all you have to do is smash the pedal, steer, and pray
And you keep your speed slow from the very top. If you suddenly realize you are going too fast and you try to slow to aggressively you will do what is known as shocking the tires and they will lose grip or in other terms break loose and now you are sliding out of control.
Francisco Amaya if the tires Don't work the next best thing in the snow is bumpers around you're car is like playing bump car at the fair every time you skid on the road the bumpers will protect you're car from damagesand you all have a lot of fun rackeen alot of points.
There haven't been any effective winter tires so far. A lot of commercials about all season tires lie users.
Ugh, I'm not ready for this crap again.
I would drive in manayunk during the snow for fun. And to see the bad drivers.
20 bucks says they were all heading to/coming from Walmart. Fuck that I would ever endanger myself or my vehicle unless I was in extreme danger to where I must be out on the roads
I think we have just found the perfect spot for our Winter Edition of NASCAR Racing.
these people never heard of snow tires?
+Aiden Findley Probably, but they don't think they're worth it, because "snow tire don't make that much of a difference", or so they think. They would be wrong.
You can tell the guy in the black Nissan is sexually frustrated.
Driving in this weather is awesome but I also drive a huge 4x4 truck
We in Europe have the required winter tires. Why not in the USA? On summer tires, snow can not be ride.
That little race between the Nissan sedans was like watching two looney bin patients racing in imaginary cars.
That is WAY TOO STEEP even with winter tires on. Cars can only get up that steep a grade if they have All-wheel-drive PLUS a good set of winter tires on all 4 corners. Front-wheel-drive and winter tires just won't be enough to get up a hill that steep when it is covered with even just 1" of snow.
I guess you folks do not remember how much fun our dads were having back in 1969. There was still snow, but all the cars were rear wheel drive & horsepower driven. When somebody was coming the other way you moved to the right, he was going sideways. LOL
Traction control needs to be OFF once you actually get stuck! It's good for keeping you from sliding sideways if you aren't stuck! You NEED the wheels to spin a lot when stuck for power & momentum!
Put the car into 1st gear. It will save the transmission and your tires.
Big tyres? No manual transmission? No snow tyres?
This is the result.
I live in Philly that looks like Manayunk Hill I live in West Philly and I also happen to live on a hill these people biggest mistake was going up the hill with no AWD or 4WD
BroFist but who's going to invest $1000 dollars snow tires then possible you don't get snow so that's why awd is better
Nope, because you look at the AWD vehicles that are having trouble even making it DOWN the hill in one piece. It's all about the tires. Then about the driver. Everything else is secondary.
Ahh... good ol Green Ln! I make it up in my FWD every time!
Hello friend,is this your clip? May I feature it in a compilation? Credited of course in a video and description.
I don't know what's more annoying...watching people trying to go up a hill without winter tires on, them still trying to get up when they could easily turn around and go back down, or having some idiot standing there filming you struggle?
Just a question for those experienced with traction control , which would be better in a situation like this, to keep the Traction control on or to turn it off, in case you only have all season tires
Just buy some winter tires. All season tires are a joke. The rubber stays hard in cold temps and they are worthless. Winter tires have a completely different tread much more aggressive, and the rubber is a different compound that allows the rubber to stay soft in cold temps and get a grip. It is not only about going but you must stop and go around turns and your life as well as the others on the road that you may crash into are worth something. People do yourself a favor and go to a tire store and just look at the difference between winter tire tread and all season tire tread. I wish tire companies would have never cone up with that term all season, because it is false. Maybe three season but not in snow.
Kind of funny
I'm from pa. The year I started to drive was 1976 the worse winter in years. This brings back memories. At 16 yo this was fun
Been driving since 1970 and it is now 2023 and I always buy winter tires. Never been stuck and I plowed snow working for a school district for 35 years and I went to work at one or two am many times in those thirty -five years Rear wheel drives and front wheel drives. Love my winter tires, they just make a tremendous difference, shame I cannot convince people.
someone once told me" a tire is just tire ", lol
Good video .
Now that's a good video
There are hills where I can't climb on new winter studded tires like Goodyear Ultragrip Ice Arctic in FWD car. AWD go just fine.
What we do here - put chains on, get up the hill, take off the chains.
3:20 put that in a Toyota commercial fucking with Nissan
It's just a thin layer of snow....
Front wheel drive goes no where in snow and ice. Might as well stay home. You need 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive for snow and ice and it helps to have some snow tires. Chains work even better even on 4 wheel drive. I have no problems driving my Cherokee Jeep with 4 wheel drive. Put it in double low 4 wheel and I can go anywhere.
There is a simple solution-winter tires+ESP OFF!
Winter tires should be law in the presence of snow
Live in AZ now but I so miss Philly....NOT!
+Jill Hackney and I so miss Arizona YEPPPPPPPPPPPPP
no one cares
I care
The Altima closer too the curb should of disengaged the traction control
This is going to sound ridiculous, but the best way to go up a hill in a front wheel drive car is to drive it in reverse...Don't believe me? try it.
Also, if you're going to drive it normally, just BARELY accelerate until you gain momentum, then do not stop! People should have waited at the bottom of the hill, let one car go at a time, gaining momentum, and making it all the way up.
Are they on sommer tires or why are the others just driving up normaly
Is it persistence or just plain stupidity
Can't fix stupid
I do love how everybody can apparently read the sidewalls of the tires in this video to tell who has snow tires and who doesn't, lol.
+l337pwnage The evidence is in how much traction they have to go up the hill. Almost EVERY time I see somebody wrecked or stuck they're on summer or all season tires. I've NEVER helped anybody get unstuck that had Blizzaks on.
Winter tires are very different looking large aggressive knobs for lack of a better term are very apparent on winter tires whereas summer or all season tires appear almost smooth along the edge of the tire. Do yourself a favor go to a tire store in the winter months when winter tires are on the sales floor and you will see what I am talking about.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv You're thinking of the old "Mud and Snow" tires which were specced out when most roads were not even paved.
Decades ago, now, they developed a tire spec for paved roads called "Snow and Ice" tires, and they are much better on pavement than the old "Mud and Snow" tires. These tires are easily spotted in person, but not on a low rez video. They often look similar to modern "All Seasons" but with much more aggressive siping.
Also, a lot of the technology for "Snow and Ice" tires is in the compound, which you can only tell through touch(they are really soft, often) or chemical analysis.
I guess snow tires aren't a big mover in Philly?
rookie drivers, lived in Philly my whole life and never have any trouble and I even drove my mustang 2 year thru winter
exactly.....
what if they let some air out of the tires? Like only run on 10psi, would that help any?
Typical Philly, doing something that no one else who lives in a snowy area would do. And yes ,as a native,I can say that.
cat litter does wonders
That one car needs to turn off traction control.
LOL You would never last in Canada! That's a light dusting where snow tires are mandatory in almost every province for insurance liability coverage. Plus just common sense.
snow tires are only mandatory in quebec, but you do get insurance discounts for having them elsewhere
What part do you realize at the hell is getting steeper do you back up and go down?
"all seasons=no seasons"
Everybody just gonna sit and watch?...how long is this..smh
prolly the same people that would get pissed off at others for having "4x4 trucks that pollute too much"
So I live in a kinda small town in texas, and every winter we get some pretty decent snow, and Every year, drivers just freak the fvck out. Like fvckin stay home okay?!
If you don't have winter tyres you need to put the snow chains or you won't go anywhere
do they even have traction control off?
Ha knew this was manyunk from the thumb nail. I'm in East falls waiting for snow so I can rip it up in my wrx!
4 years later and still no update as to how much fun you had once it snowed! Thanks for the suspense!! 🤣✌️ just playing
Fwd and rwd cars in snow day very smart
Which Al Tim a is better? New and black??? Old and gray?? Wait.....old is winning......
Buy an awd if you don’t want to buy winter tires
why didn't they just turn around and find a less steep street to get where they are going
It's like they have never seen snow
This is why I have a 4x4 truck and use my brain
How long are those two cars at three minutes going to spin their tires. It's time to find another route if your car won't make it up the hill. What are you waiting for, your transmission to burn up.
"Maybe if we spin our tires enough we can melt our way trough!"
The old front wheel drive sleigh lol