im giving the white car doing pirouettes a perfect 10. i was somewhat worried about the approach, seemed a bit too aggressive, but then its momentum slowed into a perfect one and a half. perfection!
I lived in Seattle for 13-years. Snow happened now and then, but no-one really understands how incredibly 'hilly' Seattle is. As a matter of fact, I didn't even realize it, until I moved there. If it snowed, I just walked to work. I was lucky. Now living in Central PA. I can tell you, there is nothing like the snow and ice out here. But, it's not that bad, you can dig yourself out and they keep the roads clear. What people here don't understand is that Seattle has HILLS. I was here when this happened, I walked to work from the CD to Downtown everyday, and if I was lucky, I could hop the bus home. You can laugh, but snow in the city is the worst. We lived on Denny Way, between Madison and 25th Ave. So if you parked your car there. Forget about moving it. You just had to march your butt up from Madison Valley until you could find a bus that wasn't trying to descend into downtown. Also, don't even THINK you can drive down John St.
@@greysonG10 Yikes! I know. I have only been here for 5 years, and I have enjoyed the snowstorms here. This year, the winter seems to be really mild! I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop and Mother Nature to suddenly bombard us with a few feet of snow.
@@ThatGuy.75 Right!? Before moving there, I would visit my friend all the time, and never noticed how hilly Seattle is until we moved there. We lived on Denny Way, near 23rd Avenue, and boy was I shocked when it decided to snow our first year. I worked for Nordstrom and so many times I had to make the hike to downtown because the buses couldn't run. My Mother-in-law would laugh at me. But people don't realize how many darn hills there are there! It never used to snow as much in Seattle proper like it seems to do now. The many, many times I fell and had to crawl until I could get my footing. Lessons learned!
As in so many situations, the ambient sound is way preferable to loud guitars. Also, in places like Seattle, which does not get much weather like this, it's not just business as usual when it happens! Stay home or walk!
Nowadays it's so bad, "not being as loud as the latter half of this video" makes me happy. Too many idiots who use "background" guitar music 2-3x as loud as normal, or idiots with videos so quiet you have to turn them up to hear... who suddenly crank it up 3-5x as loud for their garish "Look how cool I am" guitar outro.
Tyrone Jackson "and had the right car and the right tyres" well i mean, i dont think they bought their car while considering how slippery the hill would be in winter haha
Yeah I drive one identical to it. Pulled a mustang up a hill wayyy worse than this on Ice and snow! They are all wheel drive, seems to work even better than 4 wheel drive.
I remember this day very well. It was the only time I can recall a Seattle weather forecast where they specified the low temperature as being "above zero."
It's called people NEED there Starbucks every morning, lol, I live in Bellingham but I go to Seattle perty often, not to surprised because Seattle just never stops
apply some sand or dirt out of someones flower bed would eliminate lotta problems. People have no idea how unprepared they are. in winter, your first thoughts should be a shovel and warmth.
Guys, except any jokes - the easiest way to save the control at this type of situation- NEVER hit the brakes! If you have manual drive switch it on the 1st gear or lower one, if automatic manually put in the lowest one or just stop the gas but NO BRAKES! It’s better to save control on the car but have a bit faster speeed than be a huge 1 ton of metal without any control. Trust me and just try this out when you face this situation.
@@JohnnyMarsden really??? I'm so sorry then! Nah, sure not. That's is a point of saving control - do not let wheels get blocked. If you riding in this type of circumstances your priority is to save car moving - because then you can avoiding obstacles and start to lead the way. If you block you wheels - car CONTINUE moving, but without any control.
You're right, control is everything, but you can tap the brakes slightly, just lift off immediately if the wheels start locking up. Also, when braking, keep the wheels dead straight.. so many people were standing on their brakes with steering lock on in this video that it hurt my brain. I guess nowadays most people are so used to ABS, ESP and TC that they actually have no idea about car control.
You know it's serious when the bus did almost 180 degree spin. It looks like there may have been a thin sheet of snow and then the temperatures dropped greatly maybe into the single digits. I had my car take off like a rocket going down a hill when there was a dusting of snow and the daytime high was 6. I put my car into a shoveled pile of snow and had to get pulled out. There was no damage to the car but where it happened was extremely terrifying.
I remember this and it really does happen every time it snows! I live south of Seattle and I know better than to try and drive on the hills of Seattle when it's like that!
4:05 Anyone remember those old buses that used to feature back windows? I remember staring out the back of those on all my bus rides as a child. And those old dark green seats had such good padding as well, and were larger too!! I think the new ones are still comfortable, but I miss those old ones.
It’s a hot (July 2020) Summer day in Seattle (with no air conditioning) and I felt nostalgia for a ‘driving-in-Seattle-in-the-snow’ video. - Thank you for this video; very well done (and with a good soundtrack)! : )
Misha Mean lol, i don’t order if the weather is horrible, feel sorry for them...yep I know that’s their living but not in very wet and windy weather or snow...they often are immigrants from hot climates where I am and have only a helmet, no leathers or any decent protection 😐
I have a friend that has a great 3rd floor apt. on Queen Anne. Which is even steeper than this, which looks like Capitol Hill. Every year... endless entertainment. Half an inch of snow that melts a bit then freezes is WAY worse than a foot of snow that does the same.
Every time there is snow in the Seattle forecast, i come back and watch this to remind myself that this is the only good thing about snow in Seattle. I love the bus. And your comments. Thanks so much for making this video. I'm your biggest fan lol.
I live in a sunny state, and don't know the first thing about snow driving. That would definitely be me, except with more screaming and pants crapping.
Dude, people here can't drive in the RAIN! And that is all it does! No headlights, drive fast, blah blah blah. Of course, in Seattle, the hip thing to do is wear black, walk on streets with no streetlights, and cross in front of moving traffic mid-block and blame the driver for not seeing you.
In Finland, this is everyday weather in winter time.same in Sweden, Norway, Russia..etc.and of course Canada😊 old Saab with good winter tires beats all those awds..
Seattle has some of the wettest snow in the country, thus it freezing overnight into a skating rink. It's not that bone-dry powder you get everywhere else.
People watching this video don't understand Seattle topography or Northwest weather for all that matter. All they see on tv is that it rains here. They must not know when it rains, and the temps fall under 32 degrees, you get ice. Also, the hills we drive on, they call mountains in Kansas and the Midwest. Some may NOT know or understand that in Portland, they get freezing rain quite often....that's when it rains, it freezes IMEDDIATELY if not frozen when it hits. You should not insult what you don't understand. And yes, we are nice people and help each other. Try it sometimes.
Yeah.... UH try me AGAIN after experiencing Chicago snow. We always hover between 25-40°F in winter with around 60ish percent humidity which makes for SUPER heavy, ultra icy, shitty snow. I'm sure all the Minnesotans will come out of the woodwork screaming about how dry cold is worse and how they are 20°F colder cause they're like 300 mirls further north.... to be honest I'd rather have dry winter as opposed to 60mph winds, lake effect snow, and gulf humidity making the cold FEEL COLDER than it actually is, so badly that it feels colder than it actually IS in Minneapolis for fucks sake. I will not however, complain about spring / summer / falls here, or the relatively short duration of the truly shitty parts of winter. I love my state, and my city of Chicago.
This is a lot harder to do than some expert snow drivers in the comments may think. Seattle is hilly and when those streets ice not many could drive good on that. Imagine if San Francisco iced over it would be accident after accident.
Im an expert snow driver its called 4x4 truck that weighs 8k pounds then add another 4k pounds of weight in the bed of the truck then chain up all 4 tires and go anywhere you want with no issue. I live in seattle are btw.
I guess no one is thinking these drivers couldnt drive well in the icy hills, but that they shouldnt have attempted any of these icy hills to begin with. If your trip consists of just these hills, then park the car somewhere and try to find alternative method to get to your destination.
I agree. Unfortunately there are only a small handful of states where they are legal. I think the reasoning is they cause too much damage to the road surface. I personally don't believe that. Roads get far more damaged from commercial trucks. Pretty confident that a 40,000-80,000 pound truck is going to do far more damage than a with studded tires could ever do.
@@tomrichards6207 studded tires throw up a lot of dust apparently which is why there's a few roads here in Stockholm where they're not allowed. what these people could use are some nice chains
In a twisted / amusing sort of way, I kinda love how the filmer isn't shrieking or going nuts lol. She probably sees the exact same thing happening every single Snow Season! :D
0:37 you can see how his reverse lights blip on for a second, that indicates he was not in drive. Most likely in park. That would have to be the worst decision because now he has no ability to move if he needs to. I understand he can shift out at the bottom, but you could kinda steer the car with acceleration to avoid a bad collision.
When your tires start to spin, you're screwed. Be GENTLE on snow & ice. Shift to 2nd gear (especially if you're driving a Ford), and ease on the gas. When your tires are spinning, you have NO traction. There are so many drivers out there that have no idea how to drive on snow or ice.
A big part of why it is so hard to drive in the snow in Seattle is there is 0 effort to clear the roads. They snow stays on the road until it is compacted into ice. Sometimes you get lucky and the snow melts in a day or two but other times the road is an ice sheet for a week or two. I remember during the last big snowstorm the city was bragging that they had actually plowed one of the freeways and I thought to myself a clear freeway doesn't do me any good when I can't get down my street. I find driving on a mountain hiway a lot easier because they salt/sand and plow the road.
@@SimonWoodburyForget I don't think you understand, on a sheet of ice chains don't work. I've seen busses with chains on sliding down the street. The only to keep a road from turning into an ice sheet is to salt/sand/plow it. On the mountain roads you rarely get an ice sheet because they salt/sand/plow the road before the snow builds up too much. People don't drive in snow alot often underestimate the black ice risk.
@@SimonWoodburyForget Okay then if you really belive chains work in any conditions then please drive you're chained up car down one of the hilly Seattle streets during a blizzard and see what happens. I will be laughing when I see you're dented car against the light pole. Many Seattle drivers have to learn the hard way you wouldn't be the only one.
Why can I only see 1 of the 3 replies? TH-cam must be doing alot of censorship as usual. I kind of understand why TH-cam might censor a political comment although its a shame you can't have a real political discussion on TH-cam but censoring comments about something like this COME ON!!!.
There are types of road salt that lower the freezing point of water enough that the road will remain wet in melt in the day freeze at night weather, the road only freezes during the worst cold snaps and using this type of salt tends to keep the cascade mtn passes wet or slushy.
Very smart idea, in a place that actually HAS sanders and snow plows available. The City of Seattle has 471 centerline-miles of arterial streets and 1220 centerline-miles of residential streets. Less than 20 plows/sanders on this snow event. We had no measurable snow this year. 911 is for life threatening situations, not for ice on the roads.
I was there, my 06 grand prix gt had no issues from port 47 to Renton and even getting up Renton hill. I lived at the apartments on the top. It was a damn parking lot going up the hill and took me 4 hours to get home. Absolutely nuts
I used to live in Washington and Winters were rough, thank God my dad knows how to drive in snow/ice so I've never been in a crash and or slid of any sort.
One of the reasons I moved out of Seattle... I had no issues getting around in the winter time when it snowed... it was all the dummies that thought just because they had this brand new SUV with all wheel drive they could go anywhere in the snow...
dude srsly. when the bad ice storm came through texas earlier this year i went to pick up my gf (her water/electric went out mine hadn't yet) and i myself was not afraid to drive through that. rather i was more afraid of the silly people that don't know how to drive during that weather. and sure enough this lady with bald ass tires lost control and hit my truck. thankfully nothing srs happened as we were only going around 25mph but still.. kinda annoying that people attempt to do this when they have never driven in this kind of weather.
I was in Seattle that day. I was smart and took the sounder train from Auburn. The train crew had to get out every once in a while and dig out the switches in the tracks and manually switch them because they were stuck from the snow build up. wild day.
I'm from Vancouver Island which is just across the Georgia Straight from Seattle and during the winter months, it is required for us Canadians to have winter tires or a set of tires with a snow/ice rating. Now with that said, it is the department of transportation's responsibility to either keep local roads such as these hills open and safe for travel OR to close it off due to unsafe conditions.
It would have been funny to see the fire truck crash into the police car. That would make a hilarious accident report the city would NOT like: "City truck crashes into city car".
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks Seattle DOT uses sand and a chemical de-icer; the problem is that the hills are incredibly steep (John Street, shown here, is a bit steeper than it looks), the snow tends to fall in thin layers one at a time over several days rather than all at once, so the sand gets layered between snowpack and ice rather than staying on top. Also there are not enough snowplows in the city to clear things up fast enough. Oh, and oftentimes it snows and then rains just enough to turn the snow into slush before it freezes and snows again, which adds to the "slippy-slippy layercake of freezy-water" effect. No one is moving quickly to do anything about it, because of *The Seattle Process* and also the lack of priority assigned to something that is only a problem at most for two weeks out of any given winter. It doesn't snow enough to invest a lot of energy into sorting out snow removal; but it does snow enough to essentially give everyone who lives or works on or near a hill about a de facto weeklong vacation every winter.
@@duncanadelaide4054 I can appreciate the infrequency of such an event there... I grew up in New York and later lived in Chicago. Two Cities WELL equipped for Snowfall. Realistically, if this is such an infrequent event, perhaps these People should STAY Home when it happens, saving limited City Resources! Or at least close Streets like that one.
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks A lot of streets do get closed, the problem is that Seattle is *extremely* hilly. That part of John Street isn't steep at all compared to the streets connecting that neighborhood to Downtown. If you were to close off all the streets as steep as John Street or steeper, the entire city would be closed; Capitol Hill would be an island, as would Beacon Hill, virtually cutting off the eastern half of the city from the western half, and the Queen Anne neighborhood wouldn't have a single north-south street left open. Most people do stay home as much as possible when that happens; the street in the video is usually a *lot* busier than that.
No but marketing tells people their Subaru, Toyota, Honda w/ AWD is a winter tank and people don't even learn that going downhill in AWD is no different than the 2WD version of the vehicle with the same tires. People simply do not understand when their AWD benefits them and when it does not. I do enjoy the AWD vehicles I have owned but I had no issue selling my Outback for a family FWD van with the same Blizzaks mounted on it. Driving up to the mountains and through snowy parking lots at ski resorts with a snow tire equipped FWD vehicle worked just fine. Even prefer it over AWD All Season tire equipped vehicles in most all paved road driving. Remember my family member offering to drive one snowy day in their All Season Honda AWD CRV and I said no thanks. I took my Toyota Sienna w/ Blizzaks WS70 to his surprise. I would rather have descent acceleration and improved braking of the FWD snow tire equipped vehicle vs the descent acceleration and poor braking of a AWD with stock all seasons.
We just had our second warmest October on record, with last year being the warmest October. Hopefully this winter is better than last, in the mountains at least. But it's still projected to be warm yet again. We may start to feel like California eventually the way things are headed. :(
Same thing here in Minnesota. We used to yawn at a 6" snowfall and now that's blown up to natural disaster proportions because it's so rare when we get a good snowstorm now.
Douglas Skaalrud Which Minnesota city do you live in? I'll honestly be somewhat happy if we get even a trace of snow this winter. Hoping for maybe at least an inch in the winter. :( You guys still get a few inches of snow a winter right? And of course it's still really cold no matter how warm your winter is. It got down to 25 degrees Monday morning at the airport and may very well be the coldest we get this winter. I think it was in the low 20s while it was snowing in this video (at the airport at least).
+Reckno64 I'm just outside Minneapolis. Our weather in town is moderated by the "heat island effect" which appears to force bad weather around the Twin Cities metro area. We had a really good growing season this summer; moderately wet with a dry fall but once again winter is off to a really slow start and right now the chance of any measurable snow looks slim. If we're going to have any shot at deep snow it needs to start in early November and stay cold and that just doesn't happen like it used to. A big snowstorm tends to bring out the best in people here which is why I like to see a big one.
scanjett generally yeah, but chains or no chain. It's still hard in a city made with hills and bike lanes.Given that we are also the 4th worst city in terms of traffic. It doesn't really matter when everyone is going 5mph.
I remember watching this on the news when it happened, and it happens each time those hills ice up. There are some VERY steep streets coming out of the waterfront area going up hill to the streets that parallel the coast line. It's like San Francisco steep in some spots, this video doesn't do that justice.
When will people learn you don't just slam on the breaks especially on snow and ice. Put your car into a lower gear (yes it can be done with automatics too).
Thank you. Someone here finally gets it. I've been telling people about lower gear on snow and ice and they keep saying its winter tires you need. Its not always about the tires but how much traction you can get our of your vehicle that's what it counts on. Especially if you have 4X4 have it on LOW 4X4 with 1st or 2nd gear on.
hhds113 Um, no. 4 Wheel DRIVE does NOT mean 4 Wheel STOP. That’s why people say get Winter Tires. I have a front wheel drive Lincoln MKS and I live in Fairbanks Alaska. With my FWD and winter tires, I’ve been able to safely pass 4X4 SUVs on hills without them. I could have easily passed the Acura MDX at the start of this video. I also live in a place where our roads are always like this, which is one reason we GET WINTER TIRES. Because on this hill I would’ve been likely able to stop, obviously with some skidding, but I would’ve been able to avoid a collision and stop on the hill. Next, the other big mistake people are making here is hitting the brakes, yes, but not when you guys are complaining about. When going down a hill like that, if you’re already sliding, just shifting down won’t help much. The momentum is already forcing you downward. Obviously start at the top of the hill and shift down and slow down though. However once you’re in that slide, you may as well hit the brakes. Cars today have ABS, which allows for micro braking, essentially when you hit the brakes, it acts like a very quick brake pump and it keeps the wheels from locking up. That’s why on older cars you pump the brakes, but on newer cars you can hit the brakes. The biggest issue I’m seeing here is when they have started to slide sideways, that’s when these people hit their brakes. The issue with that is when you’re sliding sideways, the worst thing you CAN do is to hit your brakes because it forces the momentum of the rear into the spin and will turn your car around and you’ll be sliding backwards. That’s the biggest issue you see on highways. When people start to fishtail - whether it’s hydroplaning or ice skidding - they hit their brakes which is what then causes the loss of control and the spin. If you take your foot off any pedal, your car will naturally slow itself down without enough momentum shift to cause your backend up lose all grip. The exception to that is really only with RWD, where it SOMETIMES (rarely; but sometimes) can be a good option to hit the gas for a second if your car has gone too far outward in a fishtail as it can help bring the car back the other direction. People tend to hit the brake then because they assume it’s too late anyways, which I guess is understandable as it won’t ALWAYS work to hit the gas in that moment, but it can. When doing a J-Turn like in action movies, at the last minute they let their foot off the gas, throw the wheel into a spin and pull the handbrakes. They do this because it shifts the momentum and lets the car spin as I said above. This advice comes from experience as an Alaskan with family from Norway. My advice has saved my life and other people as well, largely by preventing any accident, which largely comes down to my tires. I understand in Seattle there’s really no need for the Winter Tires, but All Seasons are not good in snow or ice. Just because they are snow rated, that doesn’t mean they should be used in it. That’s the biggest misconception about All Seasons (the tire on EVERY CAR IN AMERICA unless you swap for Winter Tires). All Seasons have to be able to tolerate about an inch of snow, but the compound isn’t soft enough for ice or snow. That’s why anytime it snows in Colorado, you see TH-cam videos of accidents spamming the internet. They have this misconception that “All Seasons” ARE snow tires when they’re not, they’re the tires we switch from TO Winter Tires. Back to my point though: in Seattle there’s really no need for Winter Tires because the weather never calls for it (unlike in Colorado, my reference above is from spending a lot of time there as an older teen and driving), but because of that, most of these people should be off the roads. Ice in Seattle is the same as rain in LA. LA freaks out in rain because it doesn’t rain enough, so all the oil on the roads lifts in rain and becomes a sheet. Ice in Seattle doesn’t happen much, but when it does, it creates a massive sheet. A thin one, but one nonetheless. So people should be prepared, learn how to drive on ice (read above) and stay off the roads.
I live on Denny Way, near 25th Ave. Every time it snows I just stand at the window and watch people try to climb that steep hill. They do pretty good, until they decide to stop. Usually they are half way up when they do. Then, down they come. No one really associates hilly streets with Seattle.
I remember this winter well. I lived a few blocks up the hill on Broadway. The city eventually got smart and closed the road and everyone in the neighborhood got to use it to go sledding.
Man, people need to learn how to relax that right foot off the brake, enjoy their ride into the spin, then drop the fucking hammer when you're coming around. It's so easy to do. But no.. we gotta break traction by locking the tires, then keep the traction broken by holding the brake through the floor. There should be more classes/training on these types of situations before you can even get your license. Because for some reason, everybody ALWAYS panics and locks 'em up.
I've NEVER used snow tires. Just all terrain mud/rain/dry tires, and never once have caused an accident in snow. It's a matter of skill, preparation, and how you react to your circumstances at that point. You could have studded ice tires, and you're still gonna go God only knows where if you lock the brakes up, and don't allow traction to be regained. Which is why I said there needs to be more classes/training for this before you can get your license. It's seeming year after year, there's more of a snow season in areas snow should not be there.
this is Seattle we talking about right? they get no snow for years at a time. so. they dont need tires like that for every day driving. nor do they need those skills often. so i cant blame them. even a skilled bus driver has trouble.
Chris Wilson I've been driving professionally and never had a issue for 35 years. This last winter I took a Seattle hill turn during a bad storm and did 3 360s down the hill magically missed all cars and slid into a ditch with no damage other then undercarriage scraps. So remember no one can do it by accident, accident are unintentional. So I did it by accident is a flawed phrase with legal loophole affiliations.
fayth78a1 actually we get snow often around Nov thru Jan Feb even March april. But typically not thick or doesn't stick well lots of slushy. But last 4 years have been harder and worse then the 30 before.
I moved to Seattle (actually Kent) from Los Angeles in 1974 and that winter 13 inches of snow fell one night. Next morning I was second one to get to work in my '56 Buick with chains on, after a 4-wheel drive pickup. Only five made it to work that day. Otherwise, the whole place was brought more or less to a standstill. Much has to do with attitude and willingness to have a minimum of equipment (such as tire chains) available. It wouldn't have hurt for the people on that street to each have a sack of traction sand in addition to their cameras. Government isn't going to save your a** from the rare event. The only snow removal effort I saw was one motor grader on Central Avenue.
l think it comes under Stupid people do , lol . l remember may years ago when l was 19 went to work on 250 Suzuki 10 minutes tops took me 1 hour l rode very carefully was buggered when l got there .
1. Seattle doesn't get much of this kind of condition. 2. There are a lot of Subaru Foresters in Seattle and their owners think they can handle anything.
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“DAMN I MISSED THE BUS!!!.... oh wait it’s coming back”
LOL
haha I paid for a return but this is taking the p***
😂😂
Headed right for ya, all 25,000 pounds of it 😂
It’s crazy: I forgot that this was the genre of music you’d hear put over this type of video back in the day.
Yeah and the black background with white text
The way it just gets 50% louder half way through the video
The moment the bus appears it just gets more intense ! It had me fricking dying!
lol imagine someone having this in their playlist
@@pillgrimm 2:59 for anyone curious
im giving the white car doing pirouettes a perfect 10. i was somewhat worried about the approach, seemed a bit too aggressive, but then its momentum slowed into a perfect one and a half. perfection!
The corolla was just trying to do what it's ancestors were born to do. Did you see that 360 degree entry?!
That was baller. Let's see Paul Allen's slow-motion drift!
I'm only giving him an 8. At 0:33 he comes out of the pirouette at a perfect angle to drift around the corner but he just wastes the opportunity.
@@LancerloverLL haha valid point. thats why multiple judges are needed for these things
@@LancerloverLL and that's the sport version of the corolla too! wasted opportunity for drifting
I've driven on this road. It's a lot steeper than it looks here. Seattle is full of these kinds of steep hills too.
2:18 people are screaming like they do in Grand Theft Auto when you hit a light pole.
Underrated comment
It's America.People are quite dramatic over there.
@@evanforst7272 golden🤣
Don't lump us all in with the left coast please. There's some sort of brain illness from the Pacific breeze, aflicting most everyone near that coast.
Our resident liberal victim idiots screaming like that . Anything to someone to pay attn to them .
I love at 3:29 the people start running up the hill in fear that the bus will start sliding up the hill towards them.
earth is round, so you never know
Earth is flat bro
They probably thought the metal post was going to fall
@@Three2Three323 true… or that a power line would snap and arc…
@@UzumakiNagato then where’s the edge? riddle me that you imbecile
bet the OH HO lady filming was like "yeah its freezing weather.. Lets go out with the garden hose:
Lmao so true 😂💀
She invites all her friends over before she sprays the street down. Then they all sit out on the deck jeering people.
@@douglasskaalrud6865 as someone who is family friends with the owner of the video, I can confirm
I lived in Seattle for 13-years. Snow happened now and then, but no-one really understands how incredibly 'hilly' Seattle is. As a matter of fact, I didn't even realize it, until I moved there. If it snowed, I just walked to work. I was lucky. Now living in Central PA. I can tell you, there is nothing like the snow and ice out here. But, it's not that bad, you can dig yourself out and they keep the roads clear. What people here don't understand is that Seattle has HILLS. I was here when this happened, I walked to work from the CD to Downtown everyday, and if I was lucky, I could hop the bus home. You can laugh, but snow in the city is the worst. We lived on Denny Way, between Madison and 25th Ave. So if you parked your car there. Forget about moving it. You just had to march your butt up from Madison Valley until you could find a bus that wasn't trying to descend into downtown. Also, don't even THINK you can drive down John St.
As Sir-Mix-Alot says... It's "Seatown" and should be corrected to "Hilly down where people don't know when to not hunker down at home.
it's not snow here, but black ice.
PA barely even get's any snow compared to New Hampshire.
@@greysonG10 Yikes! I know. I have only been here for 5 years, and I have enjoyed the snowstorms here. This year, the winter seems to be really mild! I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop and Mother Nature to suddenly bombard us with a few feet of snow.
@@ThatGuy.75 Right!? Before moving there, I would visit my friend all the time, and never noticed how hilly Seattle is until we moved there. We lived on Denny Way, near 23rd Avenue, and boy was I shocked when it decided to snow our first year. I worked for Nordstrom and so many times I had to make the hike to downtown because the buses couldn't run. My Mother-in-law would laugh at me. But people don't realize how many darn hills there are there! It never used to snow as much in Seattle proper like it seems to do now. The many, many times I fell and had to crawl until I could get my footing. Lessons learned!
*Bus starts sliding, hits the bus stop sign* The bus is here!
Lol
3 busses stuck in roughly the same spot. I LOVE IT!
And, thanks god, he was going "Downtown" as it's written on it!
The music just makes it even better
This is what happens when it starts snowing in Seattle
*Screams like they just saw a dead body on the ground when two cars bumped into each other.*
It happened in 2010 there are not many around that time
@R Diaz its just dumb natural born seattle hipsters
Seattlites for ya😂
@@innitstrange BS been here since they began infiltrating in 2000. That's why Oregon is there to act as a barricade.
@Lea Cook - California transplants into Seattle since the 1960’s. My family included. But I was born in Seattle.
As in so many situations, the ambient sound is way preferable to loud guitars. Also, in places like Seattle, which does not get much weather like this, it's not just business as usual when it happens! Stay home or walk!
Its the early days of youtube, stock music bgm is all the rage back in the day
no the royalty free rock made it so much funnier, especially as it gets louder when the bus comes
Nowadays it's so bad, "not being as loud as the latter half of this video" makes me happy. Too many idiots who use "background" guitar music 2-3x as loud as normal, or idiots with videos so quiet you have to turn them up to hear... who suddenly crank it up 3-5x as loud for their garish "Look how cool I am" guitar outro.
@@chaunceyloveshack9530 haha holy shit was I not expecting the music to get that loud.
seeing the bus appear and knowing what was about to happen was the best moment
The only good driver on that hill that day, was the one who stayed off it.
Tyrone Jackson "and had the right car and the right tyres" well i mean, i dont think they bought their car while considering how slippery the hill would be in winter haha
That Honda CRV with spare tire mounted on tailgate had no problem going uphill, good driver with good tires.
Same with the fire truck
@@2KCamaroZ28SS Yes, the fire truck did have chains though so it's a big advantage.
Must be from the East Coast... sensible
Good tires is really all you need. No skill required.
Yeah I drive one identical to it. Pulled a mustang up a hill wayyy worse than this on Ice and snow! They are all wheel drive, seems to work even better than 4 wheel drive.
I remember this day very well. It was the only time I can recall a Seattle weather forecast where they specified the low temperature as being "above zero."
The bus passengers are like " yeah you can let me out right here I'm good"
I probably would have opted to stay inside for a bit where its warm unless another bus line is close by
I live in Seattle and the sheer number who take the hills during these storms is staggering. Seriously, hunker down and park your car.
It's called people NEED there Starbucks every morning, lol, I live in Bellingham but I go to Seattle perty often, not to surprised because Seattle just never stops
apply some sand or dirt out of someones flower bed would eliminate lotta problems. People have no idea how unprepared they are. in winter, your first thoughts should be a shovel and warmth.
Not just in Seattle but also up north in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
Do people in Seattle still just abandon their cars on the freeway when it starts to snow?
Some people have jobs that don't allow them to take off for a snow day, though.
I like that the professionals in the fire truck had chains on.
Guys, except any jokes - the easiest way to save the control at this type of situation- NEVER hit the brakes! If you have manual drive switch it on the 1st gear or lower one, if automatic manually put in the lowest one or just stop the gas but NO BRAKES! It’s better to save control on the car but have a bit faster speeed than be a huge 1 ton of metal without any control. Trust me and just try this out when you face this situation.
Lowest gear is how you spin wheels.
@@JohnnyMarsden really??? I'm so sorry then! Nah, sure not. That's is a point of saving control - do not let wheels get blocked. If you riding in this type of circumstances your priority is to save car moving - because then you can avoiding obstacles and start to lead the way. If you block you wheels - car CONTINUE moving, but without any control.
True until you're going 15 sliding into an intersection or a stoplight, lower gear and control won't matter when you need to stop completely
@@jakeberger4472 it's impossible to stop skiing at this situation. All you can do to do you best and prevent further problems by slowing down the car.
You're right, control is everything, but you can tap the brakes slightly, just lift off immediately if the wheels start locking up. Also, when braking, keep the wheels dead straight.. so many people were standing on their brakes with steering lock on in this video that it hurt my brain. I guess nowadays most people are so used to ABS, ESP and TC that they actually have no idea about car control.
3:35 steering into the bushes to minimize damages was an amazing reaction from that bus driver!
He didn’t do it on purpose lol
Paragon
This is true John in fact I think the worst thing that got f***** up was the bumper bike rack or whatever was on the front of that bus.
that bus is going "downtown" for sure (terrible joke, sorry)
Lmao
Ho ho ho ha ha ha
Alles Auf!!!
joke was magnificent
ey don't be sorry, 6 years later I am still laughing.
Legend has it everyone is still crapping their pants on that bus.
Haha, that bus probably smells like liquid ass.
You know it's serious when the bus did almost 180 degree spin. It looks like there may have been a thin sheet of snow and then the temperatures dropped greatly maybe into the single digits. I had my car take off like a rocket going down a hill when there was a dusting of snow and the daytime high was 6. I put my car into a shoveled pile of snow and had to get pulled out. There was no damage to the car but where it happened was extremely terrifying.
Plot twist, these were people simply training for Olympic Curling. My hats off to them as they are pros.
Lol nice! 3 weeks ago XD
I would love to have an icy road right outside my window. It would provide hours of entertainment
same
Better than tv or internet, your'e right
until some seattle moron drives through your wall because they were texting and going 40 on it
Until you need food
yes
I remember this and it really does happen every time it snows! I live south of Seattle and I know better than to try and drive on the hills of Seattle when it's like that!
Yeah! People never learn, All season tires and summer tires dont work on snow
It’s weird the bus decided to go down the hill. They usually have snow routes.
But I can see the vessel
@@mindyschocolateChances are this WAS the snow route!
4:05 Anyone remember those old buses that used to feature back windows? I remember staring out the back of those on all my bus rides as a child. And those old dark green seats had such good padding as well, and were larger too!! I think the new ones are still comfortable, but I miss those old ones.
It’s a hot (July 2020) Summer day in Seattle (with no air conditioning) and I felt nostalgia for a ‘driving-in-Seattle-in-the-snow’ video.
- Thank you for this video; very well done (and with a good soundtrack)! : )
what about now around Seattle!
Best condition to order pizza and see the delivery guy reaction.
Misha Mean lol, i don’t order if the weather is horrible, feel sorry for them...yep I know that’s their living but not in very wet and windy weather or snow...they often are immigrants from hot climates where I am and have only a helmet, no leathers or any decent protection 😐
They usually don’t deliver if conditions are bad. I tried it before
And eat it for free after complaining because it is already cold. Use the microwave, all tastes good if it's free
I tried exactly that during a snowstorm in Coquitlam, BC, Canada and the pizza delivery guy said bad day for delivery.
The fire truck had snow chains on and it was fine. LMAO
the bus did too but only on the back wheels. the fire truck seems to have it on all wheels.
@@TheKrjack it's like putting winter tires on two wheels. There are plenty of videos on youtube to show you why that is a bad idea.
TheKrjack can only run chains on drive axles not the steer on pavement
@@dylanm3519 you put winter tiers on the front wheels and summer tiers on the back and then you go out and start drifting
@@ja7020 you got me thinking, that might be fun.
Seattle drivers are nuts under the best conditions. In snow and ice they just go completely insane. And that includes Seattle Metro bus drivers!
still after 9 years and me now living in New Orleans, This never gets old. The music is the best
I have a friend that has a great 3rd floor apt. on Queen Anne. Which is even steeper than this, which looks like Capitol Hill.
Every year... endless entertainment.
Half an inch of snow that melts a bit then freezes is WAY worse than a foot of snow that does the same.
Just looked up Route 43... goes south from UW through Capitol Hill then west (downhill) to downtown... and vice versa.
white SUV at 1:35 "wtf, i thought 4WD would make me invincible"
Tokyo drifting
Not with those tires
Need some winter tires.
NOT.... that's 1/2 the problem those that believe exactly that
Same idiots on the Passes thinking they're invincible.
Every time there is snow in the Seattle forecast, i come back and watch this to remind myself that this is the only good thing about snow in Seattle. I love the bus. And your comments. Thanks so much for making this video. I'm your biggest fan lol.
I love the people who think that driving an SUV gives them the magical ability to stop better than a car
SUVs need a good set of snow tires and common sense for drivers
@@regwilson7652 Yeah pretty much every car.
I live in a sunny state, and don't know the first thing about snow driving. That would definitely be me, except with more screaming and pants crapping.
lol
Dude, people here can't drive in the RAIN! And that is all it does! No headlights, drive fast, blah blah blah. Of course, in Seattle, the hip thing to do is wear black, walk on streets with no streetlights, and cross in front of moving traffic mid-block and blame the driver for not seeing you.
Hahaha. Those screams and background music in combination are hilarious. Excellent video
In Finland, this is everyday weather in winter time.same in Sweden, Norway, Russia..etc.and of course Canada😊 old Saab with good winter tires beats all those awds..
Talk about having a "Bird's Eye House View!" Thanks for sharing!!!
Seattle has some of the wettest snow in the country, thus it freezing overnight into a skating rink. It's not that bone-dry powder you get everywhere else.
You have obviously never been anywhere near the great lakes in winter then
That is exactly what we are getting right this moment: dry, powdery snow.
Same here in the UK , really wet snow that freezes overnight unless we get an easterly wind out of russia then we get the powder snow.
People watching this video don't understand Seattle topography or Northwest weather for all that matter. All they see on tv is that it rains here. They must not know when it rains, and the temps fall under 32 degrees, you get ice. Also, the hills we drive on, they call mountains in Kansas and the Midwest. Some may NOT know or understand that in Portland, they get freezing rain quite often....that's when it rains, it freezes IMEDDIATELY if not frozen when it hits. You should not insult what you don't understand. And yes, we are nice people and help each other. Try it sometimes.
Yeah.... UH try me AGAIN after experiencing Chicago snow. We always hover between 25-40°F in winter with around 60ish percent humidity which makes for SUPER heavy, ultra icy, shitty snow.
I'm sure all the Minnesotans will come out of the woodwork screaming about how dry cold is worse and how they are 20°F colder cause they're like 300 mirls further north.... to be honest I'd rather have dry winter as opposed to 60mph winds, lake effect snow, and gulf humidity making the cold FEEL COLDER than it actually is, so badly that it feels colder than it actually IS in Minneapolis for fucks sake.
I will not however, complain about spring / summer / falls here, or the relatively short duration of the truly shitty parts of winter. I love my state, and my city of Chicago.
This is a lot harder to do than some expert snow drivers in the comments may think. Seattle is hilly and when those streets ice not many could drive good on that. Imagine if San Francisco iced over it would be accident after accident.
Yep you're correct but the lack of common sense is unreal.
Im an expert snow driver its called 4x4 truck that weighs 8k pounds then add another 4k pounds of weight in the bed of the truck then chain up all 4 tires and go anywhere you want with no issue. I live in seattle are btw.
I guess no one is thinking these drivers couldnt drive well in the icy hills, but that they shouldnt have attempted any of these icy hills to begin with. If your trip consists of just these hills, then park the car somewhere and try to find alternative method to get to your destination.
@@AlexJonesWasRight1776 With winter tires
Put your money where your mouth is dude! San Francisco, full of posers and homeless.
-Bus enters picture
*Boss music starts playing
Being from Alaska, I cried. I haven’t seen worse winter driving skills than in this video - ever.
2:39 i like it how the guy just drives off
Holy crap that music/song is obnoxious. Great video - absolutely horrendous music looping over and over again in the background.
I am actually listening to Jimi Hendrix while watching this. If you give me $10 paypal I'll tell you how i do it.
Um I like the music
I disagree I think it was fitting for the casual scene of chaos
@@mirkograveho1388 simple - open a new tab and put music on that tab and mute this tab. That shouldnt require a $10 payment lmao
imagine giving $10 dollars to this nut
Nothing like a good studded snow tire. Something many of these folks could have benefitted from.
@@user-vr3fu2ek8d They are here in NH as well but only during Summer.
I agree. Unfortunately there are only a small handful of states where they are legal. I think the reasoning is they cause too much damage to the road surface. I personally don't believe that. Roads get far more damaged from commercial trucks. Pretty confident that a 40,000-80,000 pound truck is going to do far more damage than a with studded tires could ever do.
@@tomrichards6207 studded tires throw up a lot of dust apparently which is why there's a few roads here in Stockholm where they're not allowed. what these people could use are some nice chains
@@arrebarre chains are also illegal in a lot of places. Snow tires are the best we get here.
@@picomanbungace4035 damn, that sucks
In a twisted / amusing sort of way, I kinda love how the filmer isn't shrieking or going nuts lol. She probably sees the exact same thing happening every single Snow Season! :D
I'm from estonia, and here we have to use studded winter tires. And in driving school we have to complete ice driving test.
In some parts of the United States, studded winter tires are allowed during the snowy season, but they are not required.
2:18 who is screaming like someone murdered their cat?
like- it's a fender bender calm down xD
I do love this mentality of "Oh I have a car without AWD or snow tires, better go down this very steep hill during a snowstorm."
0:37 you can see how his reverse lights blip on for a second, that indicates he was not in drive. Most likely in park. That would have to be the worst decision because now he has no ability to move if he needs to. I understand he can shift out at the bottom, but you could kinda steer the car with acceleration to avoid a bad collision.
When your tires start to spin, you're screwed. Be GENTLE on snow & ice. Shift to 2nd gear (especially if you're driving a Ford), and ease on the gas. When your tires are spinning, you have NO traction. There are so many drivers out there that have no idea how to drive on snow or ice.
I remember this day... the worst snowstorm.
When the firetruck came at the end with LED lights on I almost choked on my lunch. 😂.
5:50 Dude! I used to have a flip video camera!
Nostalgia just hit me like that bus hit that sign!
A big part of why it is so hard to drive in the snow in Seattle is there is 0 effort to clear the roads. They snow stays on the road until it is compacted into ice. Sometimes you get lucky and the snow melts in a day or two but other times the road is an ice sheet for a week or two. I remember during the last big snowstorm the city was bragging that they had actually plowed one of the freeways and I thought to myself a clear freeway doesn't do me any good when I can't get down my street. I find driving on a mountain hiway a lot easier because they salt/sand and plow the road.
@@SimonWoodburyForget I don't think you understand, on a sheet of ice chains don't work. I've seen busses with chains on sliding down the street. The only to keep a road from turning into an ice sheet is to salt/sand/plow it. On the mountain roads you rarely get an ice sheet because they salt/sand/plow the road before the snow builds up too much. People don't drive in snow alot often underestimate the black ice risk.
@@SimonWoodburyForget Okay then if you really belive chains work in any conditions then please drive you're chained up car down one of the hilly Seattle streets during a blizzard and see what happens. I will be laughing when I see you're dented car against the light pole. Many Seattle drivers have to learn the hard way you wouldn't be the only one.
Clearing the roads doesn’t help much when the local climate uses the freezing point as a damn trampoline.
Why can I only see 1 of the 3 replies? TH-cam must be doing alot of censorship as usual. I kind of understand why TH-cam might censor a political comment although its a shame you can't have a real political discussion on TH-cam but censoring comments about something like this COME ON!!!.
There are types of road salt that lower the freezing point of water enough that the road will remain wet in melt in the day freeze at night weather, the road only freezes during the worst cold snaps and using this type of salt tends to keep the cascade mtn passes wet or slushy.
Very smart idea, in a place that actually HAS sanders and snow plows available. The City of Seattle has 471 centerline-miles of arterial streets and 1220 centerline-miles of residential streets. Less than 20 plows/sanders on this snow event. We had no measurable snow this year. 911 is for life threatening situations, not for ice on the roads.
I was there, my 06 grand prix gt had no issues from port 47 to Renton and even getting up Renton hill. I lived at the apartments on the top. It was a damn parking lot going up the hill and took me 4 hours to get home. Absolutely nuts
I used to live in Washington and Winters were rough, thank God my dad knows how to drive in snow/ice so I've never been in a crash and or slid of any sort.
There's going to be snow in Seattle, WA this weekend. Watching this to prepare LOL
lmao
One of the reasons I moved out of Seattle... I had no issues getting around in the winter time when it snowed... it was all the dummies that thought just because they had this brand new SUV with all wheel drive they could go anywhere in the snow...
dude srsly. when the bad ice storm came through texas earlier this year i went to pick up my gf (her water/electric went out mine hadn't yet) and i myself was not afraid to drive through that. rather i was more afraid of the silly people that don't know how to drive during that weather. and sure enough this lady with bald ass tires lost control and hit my truck. thankfully nothing srs happened as we were only going around 25mph but still.. kinda annoying that people attempt to do this when they have never driven in this kind of weather.
It’s not about snow, or stupid drivers, it’s about icy hills. Did you ever drive Seattle city hills when it’s was icy?
I was in Seattle that day. I was smart and took the sounder train from Auburn. The train crew had to get out every once in a while and dig out the switches in the tracks and manually switch them because they were stuck from the snow build up. wild day.
It would have been so nice to go to top of hill to warn drivers of black ice ahead...
I see the annual meeting of the all season tire club has begun.
best part was when the bus opened its doors "Last stop, Everybody out"
Lol yup, Final Destination.
Gotta love Cap Hill 🤣 Hello from Bothell!
man i remember watching this video the day it came out - crazy here it is 11 years later
I'm from Vancouver Island which is just across the Georgia Straight from Seattle and during the winter months, it is required for us Canadians to have winter tires or a set of tires with a snow/ice rating. Now with that said, it is the department of transportation's responsibility to either keep local roads such as these hills open and safe for travel OR to close it off due to unsafe conditions.
We using salt.. -.- and it works
Salt is soo hard on vehicles lol
Jan Lukeš Doporučuje nesolit, ptž podle něj vám sůl auto zničí víc než hromadná bouračka s autobusem. :D
Jan Lukes, I prefer sand, its good at all temperatures but it does cause a bit of a mess come spring though however, its much easier on the vehicles
I was waiting for the fire truck to crash, lol
They were the only ones who did it right. They didn't lock their brakes up. They kept the wheels rolling.
It would have been funny to see the fire truck crash into the police car. That would make a hilarious accident report the city would NOT like: "City truck crashes into city car".
0:21 SICK 360 Drift Dude!!
terrific,Thanks for posting!
Just snowed in Seattle 2 inches I'm hoping for more videos
SandWitchGamerZ we are going to get more snow just like this in January of 2017
Ye whom enjoy videos of crashes too much shall star in one
SandWitchGamerZ I'm getting 3 tonight in ohio
Great video!! Here is an in depth video of blizzak winter tires th-cam.com/video/fni4f27Op68/w-d-xo.html
Has Seattle ever heard of a wonderful thing called "salt"?
Or even SAND??
They're on a COAST!! Surely they could find some....
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks Seattle DOT uses sand and a chemical de-icer; the problem is that the hills are incredibly steep (John Street, shown here, is a bit steeper than it looks), the snow tends to fall in thin layers one at a time over several days rather than all at once, so the sand gets layered between snowpack and ice rather than staying on top. Also there are not enough snowplows in the city to clear things up fast enough. Oh, and oftentimes it snows and then rains just enough to turn the snow into slush before it freezes and snows again, which adds to the "slippy-slippy layercake of freezy-water" effect.
No one is moving quickly to do anything about it, because of *The Seattle Process* and also the lack of priority assigned to something that is only a problem at most for two weeks out of any given winter. It doesn't snow enough to invest a lot of energy into sorting out snow removal; but it does snow enough to essentially give everyone who lives or works on or near a hill about a de facto weeklong vacation every winter.
@@duncanadelaide4054 I can appreciate the infrequency of such an event there...
I grew up in New York and later lived in Chicago. Two Cities WELL equipped for Snowfall.
Realistically, if this is such an infrequent event, perhaps these People should STAY Home when it happens, saving limited City Resources!
Or at least close Streets like that one.
@@CarminesRCTipsandTricks A lot of streets do get closed, the problem is that Seattle is *extremely* hilly. That part of John Street isn't steep at all compared to the streets connecting that neighborhood to Downtown. If you were to close off all the streets as steep as John Street or steeper, the entire city would be closed; Capitol Hill would be an island, as would Beacon Hill, virtually cutting off the eastern half of the city from the western half, and the Queen Anne neighborhood wouldn't have a single north-south street left open.
Most people do stay home as much as possible when that happens; the street in the video is usually a *lot* busier than that.
No but marketing tells people their Subaru, Toyota, Honda w/ AWD is a winter tank and people don't even learn that going downhill in AWD is no different than the 2WD version of the vehicle with the same tires. People simply do not understand when their AWD benefits them and when it does not. I do enjoy the AWD vehicles I have owned but I had no issue selling my Outback for a family FWD van with the same Blizzaks mounted on it. Driving up to the mountains and through snowy parking lots at ski resorts with a snow tire equipped FWD vehicle worked just fine. Even prefer it over AWD All Season tire equipped vehicles in most all paved road driving. Remember my family member offering to drive one snowy day in their All Season Honda AWD CRV and I said no thanks. I took my Toyota Sienna w/ Blizzaks WS70 to his surprise. I would rather have descent acceleration and improved braking of the FWD snow tire equipped vehicle vs the descent acceleration and poor braking of a AWD with stock all seasons.
The fact that the slides aren't delibrately done by the drivers makes it entertaining because you wanna see how they will manuver.
Perfect entry by the second clip. Executed the drift nicely 👍🏼
3:16 "EVERYONE HOLD ON TO YOUR SEATS!!"
I miss the snow. I live in Seattle, and our warmer winters have kept us from getting much snow at all. Last time we had a decent snow was in 2012.
+Reckno64 Yeah. The way things are going we'll be having giant palm trees growing along Broadway pretty soon.
We just had our second warmest October on record, with last year being the warmest October. Hopefully this winter is better than last, in the mountains at least. But it's still projected to be warm yet again. We may start to feel like California eventually the way things are headed. :(
Same thing here in Minnesota. We used to yawn at a 6" snowfall and now that's blown up to natural disaster proportions because it's so rare when we get a good snowstorm now.
Douglas Skaalrud Which Minnesota city do you live in? I'll honestly be somewhat happy if we get even a trace of snow this winter. Hoping for maybe at least an inch in the winter. :(
You guys still get a few inches of snow a winter right? And of course it's still really cold no matter how warm your winter is. It got down to 25 degrees Monday morning at the airport and may very well be the coldest we get this winter. I think it was in the low 20s while it was snowing in this video (at the airport at least).
+Reckno64 I'm just outside Minneapolis. Our weather in town is moderated by the "heat island effect" which appears to force bad weather around the Twin Cities metro area. We had a really good growing season this summer; moderately wet with a dry fall but once again winter is off to a really slow start and right now the chance of any measurable snow looks slim. If we're going to have any shot at deep snow it needs to start in early November and stay cold and that just doesn't happen like it used to. A big snowstorm tends to bring out the best in people here which is why I like to see a big one.
I could not hear anything but that damn headbanger music !!!!
the music is what makes this video a classic
I'm willing to bet these drivers did the same dumb thing the winter before.
Seattle doesn't get much snow. It only snows like that every few year if lucky.
but you still now its coming and should be prepared.
scanjett generally yeah, but chains or no chain. It's still hard in a city made with hills and bike lanes.Given that we are also the 4th worst city in terms of traffic. It doesn't really matter when everyone is going 5mph.
True
Carl Covington it probably didn't snow the winter before
I remember watching this on the news when it happened, and it happens each time those hills ice up. There are some VERY steep streets coming out of the waterfront area going up hill to the streets that parallel the coast line. It's like San Francisco steep in some spots, this video doesn't do that justice.
I remember watching this video when it came out. Can't believe it showed up again
Thank God I know how to drive in icy conditions .
I love driving in bad weather!
When will people learn you don't just slam on the breaks especially on snow and ice. Put your car into a lower gear (yes it can be done with automatics too).
Thank you. Someone here finally gets it. I've been telling people about lower gear on snow and ice and they keep saying its winter tires you need. Its not always about the tires but how much traction you can get our of your vehicle that's what it counts on. Especially if you have 4X4 have it on LOW 4X4 with 1st or 2nd gear on.
Brakes
hhds113 Um, no. 4 Wheel DRIVE does NOT mean 4 Wheel STOP. That’s why people say get Winter Tires. I have a front wheel drive Lincoln MKS and I live in Fairbanks Alaska. With my FWD and winter tires, I’ve been able to safely pass 4X4 SUVs on hills without them. I could have easily passed the Acura MDX at the start of this video. I also live in a place where our roads are always like this, which is one reason we GET WINTER TIRES. Because on this hill I would’ve been likely able to stop, obviously with some skidding, but I would’ve been able to avoid a collision and stop on the hill. Next, the other big mistake people are making here is hitting the brakes, yes, but not when you guys are complaining about. When going down a hill like that, if you’re already sliding, just shifting down won’t help much. The momentum is already forcing you downward. Obviously start at the top of the hill and shift down and slow down though. However once you’re in that slide, you may as well hit the brakes. Cars today have ABS, which allows for micro braking, essentially when you hit the brakes, it acts like a very quick brake pump and it keeps the wheels from locking up. That’s why on older cars you pump the brakes, but on newer cars you can hit the brakes. The biggest issue I’m seeing here is when they have started to slide sideways, that’s when these people hit their brakes. The issue with that is when you’re sliding sideways, the worst thing you CAN do is to hit your brakes because it forces the momentum of the rear into the spin and will turn your car around and you’ll be sliding backwards. That’s the biggest issue you see on highways. When people start to fishtail - whether it’s hydroplaning or ice skidding - they hit their brakes which is what then causes the loss of control and the spin. If you take your foot off any pedal, your car will naturally slow itself down without enough momentum shift to cause your backend up lose all grip. The exception to that is really only with RWD, where it SOMETIMES (rarely; but sometimes) can be a good option to hit the gas for a second if your car has gone too far outward in a fishtail as it can help bring the car back the other direction. People tend to hit the brake then because they assume it’s too late anyways, which I guess is understandable as it won’t ALWAYS work to hit the gas in that moment, but it can. When doing a J-Turn like in action movies, at the last minute they let their foot off the gas, throw the wheel into a spin and pull the handbrakes. They do this because it shifts the momentum and lets the car spin as I said above. This advice comes from experience as an Alaskan with family from Norway. My advice has saved my life and other people as well, largely by preventing any accident, which largely comes down to my tires. I understand in Seattle there’s really no need for the Winter Tires, but All Seasons are not good in snow or ice. Just because they are snow rated, that doesn’t mean they should be used in it. That’s the biggest misconception about All Seasons (the tire on EVERY CAR IN AMERICA unless you swap for Winter Tires). All Seasons have to be able to tolerate about an inch of snow, but the compound isn’t soft enough for ice or snow. That’s why anytime it snows in Colorado, you see TH-cam videos of accidents spamming the internet. They have this misconception that “All Seasons” ARE snow tires when they’re not, they’re the tires we switch from TO Winter Tires. Back to my point though: in Seattle there’s really no need for Winter Tires because the weather never calls for it (unlike in Colorado, my reference above is from spending a lot of time there as an older teen and driving), but because of that, most of these people should be off the roads. Ice in Seattle is the same as rain in LA. LA freaks out in rain because it doesn’t rain enough, so all the oil on the roads lifts in rain and becomes a sheet. Ice in Seattle doesn’t happen much, but when it does, it creates a massive sheet. A thin one, but one nonetheless. So people should be prepared, learn how to drive on ice (read above) and stay off the roads.
@@ConnorGibbsAK - wow do you like the sound of your own voice, oh great Oracle of knowledge.
V bar chains on all four, or studs on all four, might have saved more than their cost in body damage.
Have these people never heard of winter tires? Or chains?
I live on Denny Way, near 25th Ave. Every time it snows I just stand at the window and watch people try to climb that steep hill. They do pretty good, until they decide to stop. Usually they are half way up when they do. Then, down they come. No one really associates hilly streets with Seattle.
I remember this winter well. I lived a few blocks up the hill on Broadway. The city eventually got smart and closed the road and everyone in the neighborhood got to use it to go sledding.
Mia colucci.
P nope
Man, people need to learn how to relax that right foot off the brake, enjoy their ride into the spin, then drop the fucking hammer when you're coming around. It's so easy to do. But no.. we gotta break traction by locking the tires, then keep the traction broken by holding the brake through the floor. There should be more classes/training on these types of situations before you can even get your license. Because for some reason, everybody ALWAYS panics and locks 'em up.
this is Seattle. they dont get snow offten. most is using road tires.
I've NEVER used snow tires. Just all terrain mud/rain/dry tires, and never once have caused an accident in snow. It's a matter of skill, preparation, and how you react to your circumstances at that point. You could have studded ice tires, and you're still gonna go God only knows where if you lock the brakes up, and don't allow traction to be regained. Which is why I said there needs to be more classes/training for this before you can get your license. It's seeming year after year, there's more of a snow season in areas snow should not be there.
this is Seattle we talking about right? they get no snow for years at a time. so. they dont need tires like that for every day driving. nor do they need those skills often. so i cant blame them. even a skilled bus driver has trouble.
Chris Wilson I've been driving professionally and never had a issue for 35 years. This last winter I took a Seattle hill turn during a bad storm and did 3 360s down the hill magically missed all cars and slid into a ditch with no damage other then undercarriage scraps. So remember no one can do it by accident, accident are unintentional. So I did it by accident is a flawed phrase with legal loophole affiliations.
fayth78a1 actually we get snow often around Nov thru Jan Feb even March april. But typically not thick or doesn't stick well lots of slushy. But last 4 years have been harder and worse then the 30 before.
What storm? That's normal in every winter in Finland :D
I moved to Seattle (actually Kent) from Los Angeles in 1974 and that winter 13 inches of snow fell one night. Next morning I was second one to get to work in my '56 Buick with chains on, after a 4-wheel drive pickup. Only five made it to work that day.
Otherwise, the whole place was brought more or less to a standstill.
Much has to do with attitude and willingness to have a minimum of equipment (such as tire chains) available. It wouldn't have hurt for the people on that street to each have a sack of traction sand in addition to their cameras.
Government isn't going to save your a** from the rare event. The only snow removal effort I saw was one motor grader on Central Avenue.
In Finland and most of Canada the ground freezes...in Seattle it doesn't.
Big difference...
@@geoh7777 wow you must be old now right
The guy recording this was totally entertained during that snow storm.
It’s like watching a game of curling 😂
what exactly possesses people to ascend or descend a hill that's covered with ice or snow?
l think it comes under Stupid people do , lol .
l remember may years ago when l was 19
went to work on 250 Suzuki 10 minutes tops
took me 1 hour l rode very carefully was buggered
when l got there .
Seattle folk are elitists.. Why the rest of the state dislikes them
1. Seattle doesn't get much of this kind of condition.
2. There are a lot of Subaru Foresters in Seattle and their owners think they can handle anything.
@@diane9247 yes agreed a car is a car does not matter if it is top or bottom of the range if
it hit any thing it will BEND sadly !
Brain freeze lol
Lol I used to ride the 43 bus to highschool!
how old are you im 30 graduated in 07'
No music man, that fire truck was king. Good video !!!
Last Stop! Just had to revisit this considering the current snow panic in Seattle.
0:20 That's just Ken Block doing his thing...
Back when city buses had steps.
I like her understated "uh oh " as the bus started sliding...
Ahh, the joys of winter ❄️