Yo LegenVD, I've only started getting into MTG a few weeks ago. I was looking for some videos that teach me some MTG and I also wanted to get an an overview of the decks that are currently played and then I eventually found you. Meanwhile I have seen every video you have put out in the last 3 weeks. I really like your way of talking, explaining and editing in some cards you are talking about while playing. The insight in how you take decisions and what you consider your opponent to do is fascinating and very valuable to new players. Keep up the amazing work and have a nice day!
Excellent deck, LVD. I went the evil route and built a Dimir Control version for this Demon. Gameplan is pretty simple: remove all creatures (and maybe other permanents with the 5 mana Cover Up), shred their hand to pieces with Duress and Ruthless Negociation, cast Demon with Cavern of Souls, finish the job with Jace or Restless Reef. Surprisingly effective for BO1 lol.
@@Poweranimal84 You could run the 2 mana sorcery that tutors for it. I have it in my deck as well but it looked unnecessary so far, so I will probably replace it with something else.
the most incredible final game, wow. constantly teetering on the edge of losing to combat and slowly grinding out a more traditional mill victory. absolutely insane. this is the perfect reason why you never give up early
excruciator is gas when paired with coiling rebirth!!! throw it in mono black control and a couple collector vault and threefold thunderhulk and youre cooking 😅
If a suggestion, maybe running Diabolic Intent could help with finding the Scavenger's Talent. It still sacrifices a creature, which is useful, but not being instant might hurt the viability of the cars a bit.
Mono Black Magic (Channel) made a nice version with Altar of Dementia. It can sacrifice a creature and mill according to the creatures Power which is 6 anyway :) well historic format ofc.
I don't usually cheer for Mill but this and Mindskinner have been two that are just against-the-odds enough I cheer when somebody gets them to go off. Instead of an agonizing multiple turn mill it's like Mill OTK but there's chances to stop it along the way and it doesn't cast my own permeants back at me like Breach.
Doomsday is probably my best deck at the moment. I really need a Cavern of Souls and some Treasure Maps after seeing this video. I'm currently leaning into Scavenger's revival ability, but the finality counter makes it so awkward for all the "when this creature dies" effects. Fun for Sheoldred since it's easy to mill the opponent enough to flip it, but I like your version better.
ehi LVD, best MTG Arena content creator! Since you're so good in creating a mill deck, why don't you please give us a Bruvac brawl deck? Thank you in advance
We weren't guaranteed to draw into a land to be able to make that play. We may end up needing the life if we decide to cast the demon anyway, so then it's greedy not to sacrifice the food while we have the chance. So in hindsight it may look awkward, but in the moment I don't think it's necessarily a wrong play.
I would like the videos more if they were at higher rank, it makes me feel like I'm watching someone better than I am & that I can learn. I can get to plat easily.
Rank is mostly irrelevant once you get to Platinum. It’s just a matter of spending more time grinding the ladder. I prefer spending that time building new decks.
@@LegenVD love the videos and understand that reasoning, but. do you think this deck can make it to mythic in a reasonable time period? Like has your winrate been high enough or is it more just for fun?
The shell has so many angles, you could splash white to have that 4 mana reanimator or make it Rakdos and reanimates the demon while getting value from the likes of Disturbing Mirth etc
In game 3, a treasure token is sacrificed to help cast the excrusiator. Can the excrusiator’s on cast trigger and the talent’s mill trigger be ordered so that excrusiator resolves first and reduces the opponent’s deck before the mill trigger? In this case, sacrificing 3 treasures as part of casting excrusiator effectively wins the game?
no, because excruciator's trigger isn't on cast, it's an enters-the-battlefield trigger (that only triggers if it was cast). the talent's mill trigger will go on the stack after excruciator (the creature itself), then excruciator will resolve, enter, and trigger to exile the libraries
Sacrificing the Treasures in order to cast the Excruciator means they're already gone before the Demon is even on the battlefield. This means the Talents will trigger from the sac'd tokens first and resolve before the Demon has a chance to do anything.
@@geronimo8159 Unlike the other popular Talents it's more subtly powerful. Even when not trying to use it for a combo kill it's a very strong self-mill engine for sacrifice decks. The food tokens are also versatile tools for that same type of deck.
in match 3 you sacced the 2 food tokens which proved unnecessary and you easilly could have kept them for if they became necesary. Additionally the next turn you milled 4 by saccing 2 treasures but couldnt finish and didnt win until the next turn. if even one food token was there you could have used the mana to sac the food and won right away. Didn't matter in the end but that was painful to watch.
We weren't guaranteed to draw into a land to be able to make that play. We may end up needing the life if we decide to cast the demon anyway, so then it's greedy not to sacrifice the food while we have the chance. So in hindsight it may look awkward, but in the moment I don't think it's necessarily a wrong play.
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Match 6 against the world's most patient red player
before watching I'm going to assume it's because the game went 6 turns
@@vumasster 55 minute match with the deck that wins on turn 2 regularly
This list provides excruciating amounts of value
Yo LegenVD, I've only started getting into MTG a few weeks ago. I was looking for some videos that teach me some MTG and I also wanted to get an an overview of the decks that are currently played and then I eventually found you. Meanwhile I have seen every video you have put out in the last 3 weeks. I really like your way of talking, explaining and editing in some cards you are talking about while playing. The insight in how you take decisions and what you consider your opponent to do is fascinating and very valuable to new players.
Keep up the amazing work and have a nice day!
Now if only HasbroWOTC would get their heads out of their asses about the game itself.... 😞
@48:28 😂 Those are the takes I'm here for. Always really insightful and funny.
Win with a ham sandwich slayed me 🥪
Punishing mono red by milling them out is so satisfying.
This deck is definitive black! Absolutely love what this deck is about! Appreciate you tons Luca!!! 🔥🤘
Excellent deck, LVD. I went the evil route and built a Dimir Control version for this Demon. Gameplan is pretty simple: remove all creatures (and maybe other permanents with the 5 mana Cover Up), shred their hand to pieces with Duress and Ruthless Negociation, cast Demon with Cavern of Souls, finish the job with Jace or Restless Reef. Surprisingly effective for BO1 lol.
Yup, been running a more counter heavy version, but it works. I like this version he posted though… dunno if I wanna craft a 4th demon though.
@@Poweranimal84 You could run the 2 mana sorcery that tutors for it. I have it in my deck as well but it looked unnecessary so far, so I will probably replace it with something else.
@@mariand.1087would you mind sharing your list ?
@@Poweranimal84would you mind share your list ?
@@alaingamache3908 Deck
1 Drag the Canal (MKM) 199
1 Malicious Eclipse (LCI) 111
1 Sheoldred's Edict (ONE) 108
2 Deadly Cover-Up (MKM) 83
1 Intrude on the Mind (MKM) 61
4 Phantom Interference (OTJ) 61
4 Three Steps Ahead (OTJ) 75
4 Jace, the Perfected Mind (ONE) 57
4 Deduce (MKM) 52
4 Go for the Throat (BRO) 102
4 Cut Down (DMU) 89
3 Doomsday Excruciator (DSK) 94
2 Cavern of Souls (LCI) 269
4 Swamp (KTK) 254
4 Gloomlake Verge (DSK) 260
2 Undercity Sewers (MKM) 270
2 Underground River (BRO) 267
4 Restless Reef (LCI) 282
4 Darkslick Shores (ONE) 250
1 Farsight Ritual (WOE) 49
4 Dismal Backwater (MOM) 269
Sideboard
4 Duress (M21) 96
1 Tishana's Tidebinder (LCI) 81
1 Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal (LCI) 88
1 Disfigure (M20) 95
1 Disfigure (M20) 95
2 Disdainful Stroke (KHM) 54
2 Negate (ZNR) 71
1 Malicious Eclipse (LCI) 111
2 Deadly Cover-Up (MKM) 83
The Leyline Binding at the end of game 2 was cute. I thoroughly enjoyed watching them explode.
the most incredible final game, wow. constantly teetering on the edge of losing to combat and slowly grinding out a more traditional mill victory. absolutely insane. this is the perfect reason why you never give up early
This is way less of a meme than I thought it would be haha. Great video.
You can nearly see the opponent's panic when the excruciator comes out.
doomsday excruciator has become the unofficial mascot of my lgs, it's such a funny card
That curve is crazy
is it off the charts though?
That thumbnail is dope.
excruciator is gas when paired with coiling rebirth!!! throw it in mono black control and a couple collector vault and threefold thunderhulk and youre cooking 😅
If a suggestion, maybe running Diabolic Intent could help with finding the Scavenger's Talent. It still sacrifices a creature, which is useful, but not being instant might hurt the viability of the cars a bit.
Seeing as this deck is reliant on Doomsday, I think a sorcery speed tutor is well worth it.
Love this!
Mono Black Magic (Channel) made a nice version with Altar of Dementia. It can sacrifice a creature and mill according to the creatures Power which is 6 anyway :) well historic format ofc.
Cool thumbnail
The Prateon supporters sure have excruciating ideas for LVD opponents 😊
That last game was insane
I don't usually cheer for Mill but this and Mindskinner have been two that are just against-the-odds enough I cheer when somebody gets them to go off. Instead of an agonizing multiple turn mill it's like Mill OTK but there's chances to stop it along the way and it doesn't cast my own permeants back at me like Breach.
Doomsday is probably my best deck at the moment. I really need a Cavern of Souls and some Treasure Maps after seeing this video. I'm currently leaning into Scavenger's revival ability, but the finality counter makes it so awkward for all the "when this creature dies" effects. Fun for Sheoldred since it's easy to mill the opponent enough to flip it, but I like your version better.
Very cool indeed.
Scav talent is turbo good in insect deck where you sack overlord of mistwood just to bring it right back
Match 2 was crazy
Wow the 6th game was amacing, cool blooded both!
36:21 while scrying with the Greedy freebooter, “So, might have to be greedy here.”
Seeing mono red get milled out always brigthness my day
It's funny to me that one of the best mill creatures in all mtg costs 6 black😅
ehi LVD, best MTG Arena content creator! Since you're so good in creating a mill deck, why don't you please give us a Bruvac brawl deck? Thank you in advance
I swear the thumbnail guy looks like markiplier maybe thats just me
Honey Ham sandwiches are fire
47:08 Gaining a ton of LIFE while also SLOWLY killing them, gotta be rdw's worst nightmare ever existed.
Still in the decktech, but can't help but feel we are missing Pitiless Carnage.
Played it in the last version of Monoblack mill, going for a slightly different approach now.
I wish they printed a card called Ham Sandwich so I can beat monored with. Like a vanilla 4 mana 5/5 or something...
...Vanilla Ham Sandwich
so the mistakes of sacrificing the last food token at match 3 20:50 left unpunished, small little details but matters a lot.
We weren't guaranteed to draw into a land to be able to make that play. We may end up needing the life if we decide to cast the demon anyway, so then it's greedy not to sacrifice the food while we have the chance. So in hindsight it may look awkward, but in the moment I don't think it's necessarily a wrong play.
What about Sacrificial alter?
If you mean Altar of Dementia it's not in Standard.
I would like the videos more if they were at higher rank, it makes me feel like I'm watching someone better than I am & that I can learn. I can get to plat easily.
Rank is mostly irrelevant once you get to Platinum. It’s just a matter of spending more time grinding the ladder. I prefer spending that time building new decks.
@@LegenVD love the videos and understand that reasoning, but. do you think this deck can make it to mythic in a reasonable time period? Like has your winrate been high enough or is it more just for fun?
@@DetectiveWhoCCG This deck is just for fun, will have a more competitive version next week.
Mill vs red aggro the video.
This is a mill deck the same way Channel + Fireball is a burn deck.
When will you do more Devotion videos?
The shell has so many angles, you could splash white to have that 4 mana reanimator or make it Rakdos and reanimates the demon while getting value from the likes of Disturbing Mirth etc
Problem with reanimating the Demon is that it won't trigger the first ability.
@@LegenVD Missed that line lol
A winter, misanthropic brawl deck would be cool to see if it can work. Asking for my gf since she really wants to make a deck around it 😅😁
In game 3, a treasure token is sacrificed to help cast the excrusiator. Can the excrusiator’s on cast trigger and the talent’s mill trigger be ordered so that excrusiator resolves first and reduces the opponent’s deck before the mill trigger?
In this case, sacrificing 3 treasures as part of casting excrusiator effectively wins the game?
no, because excruciator's trigger isn't on cast, it's an enters-the-battlefield trigger (that only triggers if it was cast). the talent's mill trigger will go on the stack after excruciator (the creature itself), then excruciator will resolve, enter, and trigger to exile the libraries
Sacrificing the Treasures in order to cast the Excruciator means they're already gone before the Demon is even on the battlefield. This means the Talents will trigger from the sac'd tokens first and resolve before the Demon has a chance to do anything.
Never been this early
That’s okay it happens to the best of us
Ooof doomsday is a powerhouse. We love to see it. Mono black mill is quite the thing to see.
Le jank.
Scavenger's Talent is a disgusting card
Is it? Why?
@@geronimo8159 Well, it fits perfectly in my deck my currently making so im a lil biased xd
@@geronimo8159 Unlike the other popular Talents it's more subtly powerful. Even when not trying to use it for a combo kill it's a very strong self-mill engine for sacrifice decks. The food tokens are also versatile tools for that same type of deck.
Day 2 of asking for forgefire automation :)
An offering for the almighty algorithm.
I see mono-black, i like the video. that simple
Who said mill isn't cool?
I haven't watched standard content in a while, and the amount of mono red is absolutely crazy, it must be so boring to play/play against
Possible Ham Sandwich Deck coming soon? 👀
So is standard just filled with the b/r lay line deck?
Bo1 is mostly RX Leyline (or not)
Wow that's an original! An other black mill control big fancy deck with 1 B per cent winrating. No thanks, I'm sick of that!
in match 3 you sacced the 2 food tokens which proved unnecessary and you easilly could have kept them for if they became necesary. Additionally the next turn you milled 4 by saccing 2 treasures but couldnt finish and didnt win until the next turn. if even one food token was there you could have used the mana to sac the food and won right away. Didn't matter in the end but that was painful to watch.
We weren't guaranteed to draw into a land to be able to make that play. We may end up needing the life if we decide to cast the demon anyway, so then it's greedy not to sacrifice the food while we have the chance. So in hindsight it may look awkward, but in the moment I don't think it's necessarily a wrong play.
@@LegenVD gotcha. My bad.
Twice now I've lost on turn 3 to being completely milled out, and I don't even understand how. I hate mill so much.
Lol, pwned