Yeah especially when they get to set their own prices. Restaurant workers don't get to decide how much they're being paid and are actually paid LESS because it's proper to tip 20%.. expecting 20% tip for a tat is ridiculous
Totally agree bro this clown I honestly believes the dumbassery that's flowing out his gums a good artist charges out the ass as it is and he wants a tip too! ...smh...
You're an idiot. Anyone who works in an industry with people could be considered "service". If you deserve tips than Surgeons deserve a helluva tip for their patients since they have to work on them when their motor is still running. Moron.
Yea 20%, really, unless it is a walk in tattoo shop I am not tipping. I expect "service" part to be included in the price of the tattoo and it is on the artist side to decide how good their service is. Tattoo is not a haircut, it is a piece of art if it is done well.
My tattoo artist says she charges what she wants for it, and if you want to tip thats on you. she says its nice to tip if its a larger piece that took a lot of time and looks absolutely beautiful.
I really disagree with the tipping. You're an artist, if you want more money just ask for it! Artists don't get tips bc we state our own prices and people pay what we ask or don't buy our services. If you're pricing your art down bc you expect people to tip, that's on you, it's not common courtesy to tip artists.
@@highflowerfairy2554 how would you claim those tips? I'm a waiter and have to claim only credit card tips. When you charge someones card is there a tip line like when you go to a restaurant?
@@highflowerfairy2554 oh sorry, in my country tipping is freed from taxes, should have known it's be a shittier situation in the US. But again, EVERYWHERE outside the US tipping can get awkward really fast
"Tipping is huge. 20% at least." WTF? You tell me a price, I give you the price. If you want more money, charge more. This isn't a restaurant where the wait staff is getting $1 an hour and relies on tips for their livelihood. Where did this tipping requirement come from?
Tipping any freelance artist or independent contractor is something you should always do. For example, I always tip my stylist when I get my hair cut. Taxes when you work independently are a bitch. It's also a much more personal job. You're telling them what you want, not what you need. It's a luxury.
@Liontamer972 I'm late to this but this isn't really the norm with tattoos, I tip my guy but tbats cause I feel his prices are low and he does amazing work, bit I've never heard 20% people that tip ushally just throws In an extra 50 or even 100 bucks
I'm so tired of this "tipping etiquette" nonsense. I'm a pizza guy, and I get paid half the minimum wage. So I rely heavily on tips just to get by. Same with waitresses, bartenders, etc. But tattoo artists set their own price. And now this guy wants 20% too? Stop taking advantage of the tipping culture to try to get more money and just charge me what you think you're worth. You guy's have the choice to get paid more, tipped wage employees (pizza guys, servers, bartenders) don't.
Come in Europe pizza guy. I dont get the obbligation of tipping. You should get paid the right amount straight away. And then if someone wants to tip, they tip.(i only saw very Rich people tip in Italy) Sorry for my bad English.
"tip at least 20%", bro, if you want to get any tip, make your tattoo exceed my expectations or, if you really think your art is better than other tattoo artists, just raise your price
@@highflowerfairy2554 Do you think that people would lower the value of the mona lisa because there are other paintings? If you think that raising your price will lower your overall money that you earn then that means you're already getting what the market thinks is your worth. If you tell me I need to tip 20% or I'm a dick then at that point you're just being pretentious. And this is coming from someone who does tip their artist.
I have yet to say in any comment anybody is owed a tip. I think the "at least 20%" comment he made is ridiculous. I think a tip is earned, and its at the discretion of the customer. I always recommend cookies. All I said in this comment is people price shop. They are looking for the cheapest tattoo, they don't care about quality. So market plays a role in the price you set. I don't tip in cookies, I tip in cash. My artist has sugar issues. I don't think he'd appreciate cookies. I on the other hand, cookies all day.
Saying somebody who calls it a tattoo gun is somebody who is uneducated about tattooing.... When I was coming up, that's what they were called. My tattoo artist/boss calls it a gun from time to time. He's been tattooing 35 years, has traveled the world and won several awards. What we should be teaching people is to stop being such snobs that decide what terminology people can and cannot use. I hate the terms "tat/tatted," "ink/inked," things like that, but I don't tell people "its a tattoo, not a tat" or "they're actually called pigments, so you're not inked, you're pigmented." Because I'm not a dick.
Thanks for posting this - as someone just getting started that did strike me as a little strange when he mentioned that there would be that much judgement behind that turn of phrase. :)
Not that being not normal isn't normal because you know we should except people who want to be lizards or cats late into life and spend thousands of dollars that could help other people with diseases and hardships in life get better when we can tip 20% for art which inherintly should have the entire price built in to support the artist but we need those people who buy our shit too refer to it in a way we deem appropriate. I mean never mind
Exactly ill pay for my appointments ahead of time i show my artist the piece i am looking to have done and ask how much he would like to make this happen. Give me the price and i will pay it. This is art on my body for life im not cheaping out. Ill still tip some if they give me a great experience or bring my artist a personal gift but he's on crack if he thinks I'm typing at least 20%
I mean if you can afford to pay 3 grand for a tat why not the extra hundred for the tip. Different tax bracket mentality. If that's the case you don't need a 3000 dolla tattoo.
J'Von Taylor because three grand is more than enough money to pay someone they do not need a couple of hundred dollar tip on top of that too, it’s not anyone else’s problem if three grand isn’t enough money for them. Also people could have had to save up to get that tattoo and only have three grand to spare and they’re well within their rights to get that tattoo and not be expected to tip hundreds of dollars as well that’s entirely unfair.
Disagree with tipping. You want me to pay more? Raise your price. If I like your work enough, I'll pay it happily, but it should be stated up front and not in some sort of pseudo-mandatory grey area. If you trust in your own ability, and want more money, then have the confidence to be up front with the price. That said, I usually tip anyway (at most 10%), if the conversation/'bedside manner' is good. The price is for the ink and is *your* prerogative; the tip is for the service and is based on *my* judgement.
Matt Thomas I always tip well, I go to one shop, use several artists, and even when the apprentice did his first color piece on me (free) I tipped him. It’s just what you do. Unless there’s some horrible issue or mess up or problem etc.
Often the artist has to give a large cut to the shop owner, prices may not be set by the artist. It’s out of respect to tip your artist if you feel they provided a good service, like any service. I’d say about 95% of clients leave a tip.
I think it depends on where you are, in the US it seems to be mandatory to tip on top of the cost of the tattoo. In the UK and most of Europe, it is not and its at your discretion and I prefer it that way. I only have 1 tattoo but I did tip because I had a very good first time experience. 20% is a lot to tip and tbh I don't think i could ever tip that much ever. EDIY: I would really like this channel to ask these to artists who are not based in the US because it would help viewers in other countries see their opinions and see if they have advice of their own because it seems to always be US based artists on here and its very one sided on topics particularly tipping
Matthew's Autograph Collection In the US tipping is something you do for people in the food industry because those people are paid much less than minimum wage (like half minimum wage) because they are expected to get tips and those tips are taxed as well. Tattoo artists set their own prices and make at least minimum wage so they shouldn’t expect to be tipped. It’s really rude when they say that tips are required especially something ridiculously high like 20%.
if your happy tip... dont matter 10% to 20% or whatever. tip what you feel is comfortable... or dont tip and next time you set something up you won't be priority... no one wants to deal with someone who dont appreciate what you do. I set my prices to what I feel is acceptable for both of us. if you tip awesome I know your happy and like what you got. if you dont that's ok too I dont expect tips but when you tip that makes you a person I want to work on because we both like each other and you like what you get.
Asking again, last time I said this the comment got over 1,000 people that agreed.... can we get a video where the artist show off the work they've done on people with deeper skin tones, and talk about darker skin tattoo aversion, as well as helpful tips and art styles recommended for those of us that are brown, but wanting to get inked.
Lyric Hoxter this is a great idea actually and I would be very interested as well! I’ve always wondered how different complexions and skin tones accept and process the ink differently
Exactly!!! I thought I was the only one! I've always wanted a color tattoo but I'm not really sure how or if it will work on my skin tone. And I never see artists on things like this working with darker skin.
I have several tattoos and made the mistake of watching a ton of these videos right before. I made a comment about how dumb I felt bringing a ton of friends and my dad for my first tattoo and the artist who did my first tattoo TEN YEARS ago was like “eh it’s whatever” and now I feel like I was being a judgmental idiot lol
same.. some tattoo artists' attitudes really feel discouraging in an attempt to be professional but rly getting tattoos for me is to like how the tattoos end up on my body. It feels liberating to have them.
As someone who works front counter at a tattoo shop, I can tell you that every one of my artists go above and beyond explaining to customers that tipping isn’t necessary, however we do accept and appreciate it obviously
I feel like tattoo artists sometimes think they're doing gods work. If your client does not like your artwork, you do not have any right to be upset because it is permanently on their body. If you want to create your own art independently then you should just do that
@@highflowerfairy2554 tattoo artists are just a bunch of hipster douches if they didn't learn in prison. Thanks for drawing cute cats and shit on people
@@highflowerfairy2554 if I throw out an idea or have a reference picture and I don't like it I will get them to change it idc if it's "your" art, it's MY body. I could like your style but not like the construction of the idea I gave you
@@Dirttyb0ngwater lmao I heard him but for him to say that he's totally fine with doing them then say he thinks its wrong to copy is contradictory because pinterest is full of random stolen pictures and artwork
@@hannahmantana5084 pretty sure he's talking about those simple pinterest tattoos that don't need talent to design them. Like infinity symbols or simple hearts and stuff
@@scribotis2027 it's honestly probably some of both I just know whenever I'm on pinterest theres a bunch of people with the same tats and if you trace the image back to the original artist it's their design that just got used over and over most likely without permission
Why not just raise your price to what you want to get paid? If you want 20% more, ask for it. That whole tipping thing in the US seems dishonest to me because it blurs the price customers have to pay.
@@guerrero_beto When you break down everything the artist does outside the shop in regards to your tattoo, as well as all of our out of pocket expenses, tattoo artists aren't as well paid as you think.
a builder works by a blueprint that someone else made and has no creative licence, thats what an architect is for. A tattoo artist not only has to do the tattoo, which sure go cheap and see what happens, but when you go to a good one most of the time they have to design it as well and constantly make changes to it based on what the customer wants, many people will even ask for changes as the tattoo is being put on their skin. its a craft, an art and unless you go to some dude in his basement not all that money goes to the artist, like ya know any business, the money goes back into the studio and many artist are apprenticed too and do make minimal or under intern status make less then minimal wage. thats why you tip them... more well off artist have even told me and others i know tipping isnt necessary because theyre well off, thats not the case the majority of tattooers
He's being a prescriptivist douchebag about the difference being tattoo gun and tattoo machine. If the person knew what the person meant, then it's correct usage. Tattoo artists insulting the intelligence of their customers while knowing nothing about linguistics, being prescriptivists. These uneducated fucks only self worth is correcting people on minor shit that doesn't matter. Machine, gun, it doesn't fucking matter. THEY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. Should of vs should have Could've vs could of Fewer and lesser Decimate meaning 10% (this one is seriously stupid). You wouldn't use should of in a formal setting, but it's fine to use otherwise. Same with irregardless, and could care less, etc. If people know what you mean, and they can immediately 'correct' you, then you're in the right and you can disregard that person as a pedantic, uneducated (but educated enough to 'correct' people based on bad info) loser. It's clear they only have a high school education, because high school English teachers are notoriously prescriptivistic in their teachings. Words have specific meanings and uses and you cannot go outside of that. Except you can, and that's how language works.
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway you're still wrong if you use the wrong words. Just because people understand what you mean, doesn't make it right, more just you were close enough they can work past your idiocy.
Blowdarts aren't guns clown it's a pipe not a gun and darts aren't needles that's like calling a nail or a screw a needle because it has a point at the end
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway a Gun and a machine are different, also if you pride yourself on your art and are providing it as a service, you would correct the customer. It’s not rude to say “it’s called a machine, not a gun” bc its nothing like a gun in any way shape or form
The tipping comment is so absurd. You know who really needs tips waiters and delivery guys. People who are making the bare minimum. Not tattoo artists, especially not someone well off such as this guy.
How do you know how much friggen money this guy makes?! And not ALL tattooers work for themselves! MANY get 50% & 50% goes to the SHOP! Dumb fkn comment
20-30% is kinda rough for a tip😂 I got a $3000 sleeve done and tipped 10% which was receieved as more than enough. It was a wonderful experience, but an extra 6-900$ is ridiculous to be expected as a tip.
Tipping is NOT standard. Many artists account for that in the quote. If they go above and beyond, like stay late, do phenomenal work, personable, etc., then add more. Just like the other service careers, tip based on quality of service, not just some standard for no reason.
Yeah i'm sorry, if i'm already paying 500$ for a tattoo and that was the agreed apon price, i'm not throwing in an extra 100$ just because it's "standard"
Na, I never expect a tip afterwards. I agree when a client is paying money for a tattoo, the artist gets their money and usually pays a rent to the shop for tattooing there and asking for a tip is arrogant.
It depends on where you are. Some countries it wont be nessasry but others it's pretty standard. Unless they pay booth rent, 30-50% of the money you pay goes to the shop. So a 500 dollar tattoo they could only see 250 of it.
Yea, that's the price you pay working in someone else's shop. But the way I see it, a job where you make 100-300 in a day after paying your dues, is a good job to me. I don't bitch as long as I get to tattoo. And the more you work, the more you get paid.
If you have clients all day. When you don't work in a street shop, there's a slow season. Sometimes you make $100 in a week. If that. I don't know what its like in a street shop. And your 100-300 is knocked down to 80-240 after you deduct your taxes. Then take out the cost of your out of pocket health insurance. And your supplies. 100-300 is nowhere near 100-300.
@@highflowerfairy2554 well if YOU'D rather work at McDonalds for minimum wage instead of doing something you should love and and receiving $100 a day, by all means, go ahead! If not, stop bitching because if you love doing tattoos and are able to, that $100 that a majority of people don't make a day at another job, is well worth it!! Idk, maybe I'm more appreciative for what I got and don't take it for granted. That's why many artists are fucking arrogant assholes!
I like how people justify tipping, "It's a service". I've never gotten a tip for fixing people's cars but people like to tip the guy who washes/valets your vehicle. I don't ever hear of people tipping their doctors, teachers, bus drivers ...
why should we tip the tattoo artist? Like I already payed you for $1000 for 3 hours of work, now you want an extra donation? Is there something I am missing?
Probably because people who don't own the shop but work there have to give a cut to the owner and it can be quite a bit, kind of like waitresses and such. Plus they usually also buy their own set up and stuff.
@@IslaSkye123 I mean I agree that the tipping thing is slightly annoying and they should just charge what they expect to get but that's not the way it usually works. I will say though my first few I got done in a shop I didn't tip because I wasn't aware you're supposed to and no one said anything. Also now if I'm getting something done that only takes about an hour I just automatically give a 20 dollar tip. I don't bother with the % and they seem happy with that. Different everywhere you go I suppose.
Roupization tipping in any service industry- tattoo, nails, hair, piercings, etc, it’s just what you do. Unless it’s the owner of the shop, then I believe it’s not required.
@@cinnamongirl8890 Is that true though? I would expect they probably split the money between themselves in someway, but I never would of guessed the tattoo artists themselves are getting bled dry by the tattoo shop owner. I dont think its like a watress/waiter type of thing
Artist in the US charge crazy amounts of money which I understand because they are artists and they are selling art but the fact that they expert a 20% tip it's just crazy for me. Here in Europe they give you a price and that's the price, I mean if you loved the tattoo and you can afford it sure give a tip but don't expect a tip from me if you are giving me the price and that price it's already super expensive.
Andrea M. We tip food service workers in the US because they don’t make minimum wage (they make like half minimum wage, some only $3/hr) because they are expected to get tips and tips are taxed. It’s a horribly unfair system. The fact that tattoo artists who make at least minimum wage and set their own prices expect to be tipped, especially this guys ridiculous 20%, is really rude.
Julia explained it correctly, everyone else just tries to ride on that. And it doesn't even include all food service. The jar on the counter in the ice cream shop is just for change you don't want. Also, it isn't really fair to compare prices, especially tattoos because you have to account for health and safety standards which impact the artist's overhead.
Not every tattoo shop is like that, I’m in the US I have two sleeves, neck tattoos, face tattoos, tattoos on my legs and guess what? None of the various artists or shops I went to ever said shit about a tip. Idk where these bozos are from but I’ve never encountered this type of mess.
I think it's because here in Europe we don't have the same mentality with tips. Here we usually tip to show that we appreciate the service. As a thank you basically. But in America some jobs need the tips because they aren't paid enough otherwise. When I was traveling in the US, I always had to remind myself to tip people because I kept forgetting lol. That being said, I'm not sure I understand why a tattoo artist needs tips.
Tattoo copying means directly stealing another tattoo artist's image designed for a specific client, likely with their personal preferences/body geography/additional adjustments in mind. Walking in with a picture of a symbol from a comic book, picture of cacti, etc, is not remotely the same. Calm down there, bud.
In my country we don't tip unless we're reeeeeeally impressed with the service given, it's not a god-given right like it is in the US. I have tipped a couple of times in my life and the other person was always too embarrassed to take it so I had to basically force it into their hand!
In the US we tip people in the food service industry like a waiter or waitress because they make less than minimum wage (some make $3/hr) because tips are expected and tips are also taxed. It's a terrible system. Other than that no one should just expect a tip. Tattoo artists shouldn’t expect a tip because they set their own prices, especially not 20% tip.
His point of "guns" not having needles a spray gun like painting a vehicle it is very much a gun and guess what it LITTERLY USES A (get a load of this) A NEEDLE. It affects the flow of air which affects the thickness and texture of the paint. So there you go a gun that has a needle
if your paying $500 for a tattoo it had better be a big one (or detailed) and if you want to keep a good relationship with your artist its best to tip. or you might get a dick in your tattoo. ya never know.
Cassandra Perkins A dick in my tattoo? That’d be pretty fucking stupid on their part because if someone puts a dick in my tattoo they’re definitely getting sued
THANK you for actually acknowledging that clients need to KNOW whether they can AFFORD the tattoo. All other videos i've seen artists are so mad that people ask how much money they will be spending as if everyone needs to just shut up and pay whatever... what if they can't afford it
@@agentmothman5343 Before working for my boss, I was his barista at Starbucks. He wouldn't accept a tip from me after our first session together, so I reloaded his tip onto his Starbucks card. After that, for like three or four sessions, he'd tell me I over paid him, I'd tell him he undercharged me. He was also giving me a pretty sweet discount. Eventually he gave up. But when I try to buy stuff from the shop, he still tries to give me discounts. I hide the extra money someplace I know he'll find it that night.
This guys sounds like a dooche imo, just bending the rules to favour him. The tipping thing, the service industry employees get tips because they often don't get paid without them in the US. I don't get what he says about Pinterest but then not stealing tattoos, I don't know if they edited it out but he didn't say he changes them or just gets inspired by them.
I think by pinterest tattoo's he's referring to the little pictogram designs that aren't really copyrightable. Like an infinity symbol but its made of an arrow or treble clef or something. The kind of walk in tattoo where you pay whatever the shop's minimum is.
It is a big thing over here for waiters and waitresses becuase they get paid next to nothing and rely on tips to semi afford basic living conditions. Nobody here can live on minimum wage alone and often waiters are paid less than that. I have no idea why a tatto artist would expect a tip tho, they set their own prices so? I don't know whats up with that
@@battsy9550 Yeah I'm willing to tip at a bar or restaurant if the service is sublime. But tattoo artists can just set their own price and it's a seller's market, if they want to get paid more they can simply raise their rate.
tasty Bates Tattooing costs a lot more than when you’re just in the shop. Several hours of drawing. Cost of ink and needles to start is a minimum of $500, you sit for five hours at $100/hr that’s $500, a tip for a one of a kind, well done piece of art that has thousands of dollars of investment and countless hours of time when YOU are not there is highly appreciated. If you can’t respect artists and the work we go through to do what you want, don’t get a tattoo. Not to mention, 20-50% of that $500 tattoo isn’t ours. Remember, we PAY to work in a shop. So out of that $500, your artist makes a lot less than you realize. Don’t wanna tip? Don’t expect a good tattoo from a good artist.
@@SashaZemlyaX then charge 20% more for the tatt? I am an artist, I fully understand the work that goes into tattoos and it should be fully paid for. Don't get pissed over someone not giving you more money than you asked for. Want to get paid for all that work? Charge for all that work. I will pay for the price set and not more. A lot goes into fixing up and selling a car but I'm not about to pay the man more for the car because he didn't include the cost of fixing it. That's on him, not me.
@LaRon Mathews Well exactly. So saying "shower" in those videos is pointless. the people who don't shower are just dirty. its not that the think they dont have too xD
1. tipping is not normally expected in a tattoo shop, to most artists. artists usually set their prices, for that very reason, and most artists don't usually expect tips, LET ALONE 20%. 2. it's contradicting to say, "it's easy money if someone brings me a tattoo design from Pinterest", but then saying that copying tattoos should be illegal. 3. NEVER ever ever keep Saniderm on for 4-5 days, without changing it out! your tattoo needs to breathe, and if you don't let it breathe, it's not going to heal correctly. Saniderm is, essentially, plastic wrap with glue around the perimeter, to keep your tattoo from infections or scratches, etc. but you can/should take it off anywhere between 2-24 hours after the tattoo is done and wrapped. you can re-wrap it, with normal plastic wrap and tape, if you so desire, but it's not necessary, as long as it's kept moisturized, either by using the healing ointment they give you, or with other ointments, such as Aquaphor, but in small amounts. don't put too much, because your pores will get too clogged with the ointment, and it may affect your tattoo. please please please do your research. it is the artist's job to tell you correct after-care, and that is the one thing that really, really bothered me, because you can really mess up your tattoo by not taking proper care of it.
Last I checked the tattoo “gun” gets “loaded” with ink and then the ink is “shot” into my skin. Also a mechanism like a trigger (foot pedal) to engage its function. Sure does sound like a gun.
I don't think he meant it harshly. More from experience because many start out quite small and then battle to do a sleeve that makes sense and have to do cover ups then. A lot of artists in my country refuse to do cover ups. So I'm sure he is just advising based on experience with sleeves.
So I know this artist and had known him for years and years. His work was clean, super nice and I liked his style. I am VERY OPEN minded when it comes to what tattoo artist do. I went to him picked out what I wanted. It was an original piece he made. I told him do your thing I trust you. And I actual did this on 2 diff pieces. First one was good except he used the same color purple to contrast purple.. The 2nd piece still isn't finished 2 years later.... I tipped great I paid good money for each piece. And had full trust... Now I have an undone piece that I've paid in full for. And now he lives in diff state. I'm pissed. Lol don't know where I went wrong but it's deff bullsh*t. And then I seen he did my first piece on someone else when I thought he said he wouldn't do that.
I'm new to being a tattoo client but i think I got it now. I have to accept whatever ludicrous price that is called up, because art is invaluable, then I let my tattooer decide what i get and whats best for me, don't change anything because thats lack of trust and i have to blindly trust my tattooer, when I'm in pain, I ask if it's ok to stop now,which,of course, the tattoo "artist" decides. And when ,by the godly grace of my tattooer, the piece is done, i pay an extra 20% on my already very expensive tattoo, because everything else would be rude and its a service. Yet , if I accidentally mention the fact that the tattooer is a service provider, he or she gets offended and might kick me out, because i underestimate the free spirited, artistic value of the tattoo "artist". Now that's what i call a solid concept.
I have no problems with extra people watching including kids. I own a very kid friendly shop and my partners keep great conversation going at all times.
I think that letting the artist do their thing and make you what they love the most to be the best way to get a great tattoo. This way it will be the highest quality.
I hate how he expects a 20% tip! But he's one of the only artists on here that hasn't gotten mad about people asking for the price early on so they know if they can afford it or not.
20% of a $700 tattoo is $140. I’m not going to tip an hour of tattooing just because someone thinks I should tip 20%. I did for my last tattoo and just moving forward I’m not tipping more than $50 regardless of the expense of the over all price unless It’s thousands of dollars.
@@agentmothman5343 he did explain it.. he said you gotta put your own twist to it. Also, I'm pretty sure when he talks about pinterest tattoos he means like infinity symbols or simple hearts and that stuff, things that don't really need talent to design and can easily be done by anyone
I asked my artist buddy here in SA about tips he was so confused that's something for apprentices once you aren't one anymore you just set your price fairly and don't expect a tip.
Tipping is up to you the customer! Personally I account in for the shop fees,ink etc. So I like to give a little more for the artist. You don't have to tip but it's 100% appreciated by the artist! I've heard some shops incorporating it into the price already but not alot do so tip percentage can range from 10,15 or 20%. Basically the point is it's up to you the customer.
Tipping is indeed up to you, but there is nothing saying you should do it. I hate artists like this who state they want a 20% tip, it's just mental. They set the price and then expect more, that leave I would never get work from them.
@@lhiannan02 well that was my whole point it's up to the customer if they want to tip no ones forcing it's just an appreciation thing. I feel like they could have chosen someone better for this it's a mess of a video. No one should be demanding a certain amount that just intimidates or pisses off a customer.
I think it’s fine to tip waters that too it’s a bit weird to tip if your a student I don’t think students should tip but other than waters, delivery people, lobby ppl, I don’t see the point to tip also again students shouldn’t be obligated to tip.
Just got a massive tattoo for almost 2,000. No way in hell im tipping 20% on that. My artist was wonderful and I had a great experience, I did tip but no fucking way am I tipping 20%
Geralt Grey-Mane in those cases you’re just buying something You tip at restaurants where they serve you your meal, come and check if you want another drink and stuff There’s a difference between just selling a product and selling a service
@@jaybird2616 well i guess tiping is more common in USA then :D got both my arms and back and chest done and never even once been askt or heard anyone tiping here in sweden ^^
@@jaybird2616 who gives a fuck it's the job THEY want to be doing presumably for the rest of their lives and you already have to spend hundreds to thousands on tattoos. I'm not fucking tipping 20% to some bitch made artists who's charging me 500 to 1000$ for a piece already are you fucking stupid? Actually a better question is are all of them stupid as fuck? "We dont get as much money as you think" uhhh yeah you do. If you have enough to own a car or two and a house and can pay for yourself you're making enough. If you want MORE money then do more shit that's actually worth people giving you more money then what the price actually is. Okay? Cool
I understand why I would tip a waiter or a cab driver who makes below minimum wage and has an income based on tips, but why would I tip a tattoo artist? A tattoos are very expensive and I understand part of it goes to the shop, but you're still making a lot of money for the amount of time you spend on each client.
Yeah part goes to the shop but they also have to buy their own ink and tools. I do think it shouldn’t be so “necessary” to tip tattoo artists however even if it weren’t “necessary” I would tip since they are providing a service that I will (hopefully) cherish my whole life.
So let me get this straight.... I show up at your business which is reputed to do excellent tattoo work with my hard-earned money that I'm going to give to you to get one of your excellent tattoos and you want me to dig in my pocket deeper and give you more of my hard-earned money as a reward for you doing an excellent tattoo..?
Needles do go in guns, theres needle fire revolvers and rifles that where precursors to the modern bullet casing. It's an interesting Google if your into old guns
Every other artist says they don’t expect tips, this guy seems really picky with his clientele and like a know it all. Other people like bang bang and josh lord are so chill and modest and then there’s this dude
Im gonna tip my tattoo artist when we finish my sleeve because i appreciate the rime and effort he put in to not only doing the tattoo but for designing most of it himself. With that said if you're just getting a straight forward tattoo with little input from the artist and you're done in a day, fuck a tip. Unless its just the best work you've ever seen.
As a tattoo artist, I appreciate a tip but I don't feel it's required. Especially when canvases/clients/whatever the hell your preferred to be called when getting a tattoo, are paying hundreds of dollars to get the tattoo done in the first place. Generally the reason why shops have their own way of "rent" of salary to cover that shit.
@@highflowerfairy2554 yea and another has bitched about being called a client because he's not a Jon! To each their own, don't you have something better to do then troll EVERY comment on this video?! Maybe work on your painting or portfolio, less social media, more art! My other comment in another person's thread still stands, you don't seem to happy to be a tattoo artists from your comments. Then why do it?! Dueces.✌
@@highflowerfairy2554 your not a troll who compulsively writes one comment after another on multiple people's threads?! I'm pretty sure you fit the title well. Btw, I edited it just for you doll, so your ass hurts just a little less!😚
I'm really fucking glad an artist on here said "ask about price to make sure you can afford it" when like, half of the artist on here always say "don't ask me how much something is going to be, if you do, you care more about money than my art"
Why would i tip someone who is already putting his quality on the price lmao? You tip waitress because they all get paid the same, so you reward good service(it's bullshit anyway). You already paid more to a good tattoo artist for him to do a good service.
I mean, I could see tipping if the tattooist spent a lot of time designing your idea, back and forth, with several touch ups or if he stayed later than the meeting so he could finish it up nicely. Besides that, no dinero, amigo.
I tip my artist because since I go to her so much she ends up quoting me less then her stated rate when I’m leaving, she is a great artist and I gave her total control of my half sleeve and she has done my back as well . That being said I don’t appreciate some of these guys expectations of even though I set my price and quoted you a price pay me more🤔like nah bruh
“Atleast 20%” Tips are tips. Yes they should be given. But I don’t think you are forced to give a tip. It’s a thing you should do for the work that has been given
He sets the price for his tattoos, if you want more money make it more expensive. I‘m not gonna tip at a tattoo shop wtf it‘s not a restaurant and you don‘t depend on the tips, you get the money anyway.
I'm a mechanic. I do a service. I don't expect tips.
You're already getting paid. A tip is a bonus, you shouldn't expect it.
Dont you also hate when people say "impact gun"? Its clearly a machine.
Yeah especially when they get to set their own prices. Restaurant workers don't get to decide how much they're being paid and are actually paid LESS because it's proper to tip 20%.. expecting 20% tip for a tat is ridiculous
Totally agree bro this clown I honestly believes the dumbassery that's flowing out his gums a good artist charges out the ass as it is and he wants a tip too! ...smh...
MuzamilofKrypton exactly. Like a barber, if the person thinks they did a great job then give them an extra 5$.
You're an idiot. Anyone who works in an industry with people could be considered "service". If you deserve tips than Surgeons deserve a helluva tip for their patients since they have to work on them when their motor is still running.
Moron.
Is it me or is he contradicting himself when he is talking about Pinterest tattoos being easy money but also saying tattoo copying should be illegal
Completely
But some Pinterest images are like free domain, I believe, and that’s what he means. I think.
@@katkaplan3 most are not
he explains that perfectly... just pay attention...
He finished by saying put your own twist to it!
American Artists are the ones that make a huge deal about tipping.
No its just this asshole really
Yea 20%, really, unless it is a walk in tattoo shop I am not tipping. I expect "service" part to be included in the price of the tattoo and it is on the artist side to decide how good their service is. Tattoo is not a haircut, it is a piece of art if it is done well.
My tattoo artist says she charges what she wants for it, and if you want to tip thats on you. she says its nice to tip if its a larger piece that took a lot of time and looks absolutely beautiful.
@@RubyJamez well said mate
@@RubyJamez Yeah how the f is a tattoo a "service" too. Like what. It's literally art like you said.
I really disagree with the tipping. You're an artist, if you want more money just ask for it! Artists don't get tips bc we state our own prices and people pay what we ask or don't buy our services. If you're pricing your art down bc you expect people to tip, that's on you, it's not common courtesy to tip artists.
Sythens At this point I think it‘s more a „I like money... but I really don‘t like taxes“ kinda thing 😂
What makes you think we don't report tips?
@@highflowerfairy2554 how would you claim those tips? I'm a waiter and have to claim only credit card tips. When you charge someones card is there a tip line like when you go to a restaurant?
@@highflowerfairy2554 your referring to tattoo shops right?
@@highflowerfairy2554 oh sorry, in my country tipping is freed from taxes, should have known it's be a shittier situation in the US. But again, EVERYWHERE outside the US tipping can get awkward really fast
Tattooists on this channel are weirdly picky and sensitive regarding do’s and dont’s, they act like they’re gods providing a crazy rare service.
I agree, but I have some experience in tattooing, and there are aloooot of idiot customers too. So it goes both ways...
"Tipping is huge. 20% at least." WTF? You tell me a price, I give you the price. If you want more money, charge more. This isn't a restaurant where the wait staff is getting $1 an hour and relies on tips for their livelihood. Where did this tipping requirement come from?
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Tipping any freelance artist or independent contractor is something you should always do. For example, I always tip my stylist when I get my hair cut. Taxes when you work independently are a bitch. It's also a much more personal job. You're telling them what you want, not what you need. It's a luxury.
@Liontamer972 I'm late to this but this isn't really the norm with tattoos, I tip my guy but tbats cause I feel his prices are low and he does amazing work, bit I've never heard 20% people that tip ushally just throws In an extra 50 or even 100 bucks
I'm so tired of this "tipping etiquette" nonsense. I'm a pizza guy, and I get paid half the minimum wage. So I rely heavily on tips just to get by. Same with waitresses, bartenders, etc. But tattoo artists set their own price. And now this guy wants 20% too? Stop taking advantage of the tipping culture to try to get more money and just charge me what you think you're worth. You guy's have the choice to get paid more, tipped wage employees (pizza guys, servers, bartenders) don't.
Come in Europe pizza guy. I dont get the obbligation of tipping. You should get paid the right amount straight away. And then if someone wants to tip, they tip.(i only saw very Rich people tip in Italy) Sorry for my bad English.
Come to Australia, you get at least $22 an hour for delivering pizzas and very little chance of being shot :P I
EXACTLY! We all know damn well they have already added their tip in the quoted price, and then they have the nerve to ask for a bonus!!! LOL XD
You know Mr. Pink did not believe in tips either
Totally agree!
"tip at least 20%", bro, if you want to get any tip, make your tattoo exceed my expectations or, if you really think your art is better than other tattoo artists, just raise your price
People price shop too much to raise your prices.
@@highflowerfairy2554 Do you think that people would lower the value of the mona lisa because there are other paintings? If you think that raising your price will lower your overall money that you earn then that means you're already getting what the market thinks is your worth. If you tell me I need to tip 20% or I'm a dick then at that point you're just being pretentious. And this is coming from someone who does tip their artist.
I have yet to say in any comment anybody is owed a tip. I think the "at least 20%" comment he made is ridiculous. I think a tip is earned, and its at the discretion of the customer. I always recommend cookies.
All I said in this comment is people price shop. They are looking for the cheapest tattoo, they don't care about quality. So market plays a role in the price you set.
I don't tip in cookies, I tip in cash. My artist has sugar issues. I don't think he'd appreciate cookies. I on the other hand, cookies all day.
Lol they don’t seem te realize 20% on a tattoo that already costs a couple hundred dollars will then cost you a couple hundred dollars more 🤓
Saying somebody who calls it a tattoo gun is somebody who is uneducated about tattooing....
When I was coming up, that's what they were called.
My tattoo artist/boss calls it a gun from time to time.
He's been tattooing 35 years, has traveled the world and won several awards.
What we should be teaching people is to stop being such snobs that decide what terminology people can and cannot use.
I hate the terms "tat/tatted," "ink/inked," things like that, but I don't tell people "its a tattoo, not a tat" or "they're actually called pigments, so you're not inked, you're pigmented."
Because I'm not a dick.
I laughed entirely too hard at this comment 😂 totally true though.
Thanks for posting this - as someone just getting started that did strike me as a little strange when he mentioned that there would be that much judgement behind that turn of phrase. :)
Guns shoot stuff. 😂🤣😂🤣 like lead and ink and water and styrofoam and air and paintballs and....... 😂🤣😂 what a shmuck
Thanks for being normal
Not that being not normal isn't normal because you know we should except people who want to be lizards or cats late into life and spend thousands of dollars that could help other people with diseases and hardships in life get better when we can tip 20% for art which inherintly should have the entire price built in to support the artist but we need those people who buy our shit too refer to it in a way we deem appropriate.
I mean never mind
Okay so if my tattoo was $3000 for instance do you really expect a $600 tip?? Nah not how it works buddy
Exactly ill pay for my appointments ahead of time i show my artist the piece i am looking to have done and ask how much he would like to make this happen. Give me the price and i will pay it. This is art on my body for life im not cheaping out. Ill still tip some if they give me a great experience or bring my artist a personal gift but he's on crack if he thinks I'm typing at least 20%
I agree.. I'm about 2k deep into my piece so far
one of the other guys, a bald guy, said it really well, that tipping 20 percent is expected but not on expensive pieces..
I mean if you can afford to pay 3 grand for a tat why not the extra hundred for the tip. Different tax bracket mentality. If that's the case you don't need a 3000 dolla tattoo.
J'Von Taylor because three grand is more than enough money to pay someone they do not need a couple of hundred dollar tip on top of that too, it’s not anyone else’s problem if three grand isn’t enough money for them. Also people could have had to save up to get that tattoo and only have three grand to spare and they’re well within their rights to get that tattoo and not be expected to tip hundreds of dollars as well that’s entirely unfair.
Disagree with tipping. You want me to pay more? Raise your price. If I like your work enough, I'll pay it happily, but it should be stated up front and not in some sort of pseudo-mandatory grey area. If you trust in your own ability, and want more money, then have the confidence to be up front with the price. That said, I usually tip anyway (at most 10%), if the conversation/'bedside manner' is good. The price is for the ink and is *your* prerogative; the tip is for the service and is based on *my* judgement.
Matt Thomas I always tip well, I go to one shop, use several artists, and even when the apprentice did his first color piece on me (free) I tipped him. It’s just what you do. Unless there’s some horrible issue or mess up or problem etc.
Often the artist has to give a large cut to the shop owner, prices may not be set by the artist. It’s out of respect to tip your artist if you feel they provided a good service, like any service. I’d say about 95% of clients leave a tip.
I think it depends on where you are, in the US it seems to be mandatory to tip on top of the cost of the tattoo. In the UK and most of Europe, it is not and its at your discretion and I prefer it that way. I only have 1 tattoo but I did tip because I had a very good first time experience. 20% is a lot to tip and tbh I don't think i could ever tip that much ever.
EDIY: I would really like this channel to ask these to artists who are not based in the US because it would help viewers in other countries see their opinions and see if they have advice of their own because it seems to always be US based artists on here and its very one sided on topics particularly tipping
Matthew's Autograph Collection In the US tipping is something you do for people in the food industry because those people are paid much less than minimum wage (like half minimum wage) because they are expected to get tips and those tips are taxed as well. Tattoo artists set their own prices and make at least minimum wage so they shouldn’t expect to be tipped. It’s really rude when they say that tips are required especially something ridiculously high like 20%.
if your happy tip... dont matter 10% to 20% or whatever. tip what you feel is comfortable... or dont tip and next time you set something up you won't be priority... no one wants to deal with someone who dont appreciate what you do. I set my prices to what I feel is acceptable for both of us. if you tip awesome I know your happy and like what you got. if you dont that's ok too I dont expect tips but when you tip that makes you a person I want to work on because we both like each other and you like what you get.
Asking again, last time I said this the comment got over 1,000 people that agreed.... can we get a video where the artist show off the work they've done on people with deeper skin tones, and talk about darker skin tattoo aversion, as well as helpful tips and art styles recommended for those of us that are brown, but wanting to get inked.
Lyric Hoxter this is a great idea actually and I would be very interested as well! I’ve always wondered how different complexions and skin tones accept and process the ink differently
Exactly!!! I thought I was the only one! I've always wanted a color tattoo but I'm not really sure how or if it will work on my skin tone. And I never see artists on things like this working with darker skin.
Yess there is not enough info/videos on tattooing on darker skin tones
I was one of those people that agreed, and I will continue to like and comment on your comment until we get this video.
I appreciate the camaraderie folks! I seriously need help and professional opinions
Some of the people on this channel actually make me scared to get a tattoo.. lmao
Same. They make all other tattoo artists sound like conceited babies.
From what I gather, just be a normal, polite human being and you'll be fine. If you have any questions just ask the artist.
I have several tattoos and made the mistake of watching a ton of these videos right before. I made a comment about how dumb I felt bringing a ton of friends and my dad for my first tattoo and the artist who did my first tattoo TEN YEARS ago was like “eh it’s whatever” and now I feel like I was being a judgmental idiot lol
Don't be scared. In reality, its just a lot of listening to music and shooting the shit.
same.. some tattoo artists' attitudes really feel discouraging in an attempt to be professional but rly getting tattoos for me is to like how the tattoos end up on my body. It feels liberating to have them.
As someone who works front counter at a tattoo shop, I can tell you that every one of my artists go above and beyond explaining to customers that tipping isn’t necessary, however we do accept and appreciate it obviously
I feel like tattoo artists sometimes think they're doing gods work. If your client does not like your artwork, you do not have any right to be upset because it is permanently on their body. If you want to create your own art independently then you should just do that
If a potential client doesn't like the artists artwork, they shouldn't pick that artist. If they don't like the stencil, they should speak up.
@@highflowerfairy2554 thanks Capt obvious
Was replying to somebody saying if the client doesn't like the art, the artist shouldn't be mad. Apparently to some, not so obvious.
@@highflowerfairy2554 tattoo artists are just a bunch of hipster douches if they didn't learn in prison. Thanks for drawing cute cats and shit on people
@@highflowerfairy2554 if I throw out an idea or have a reference picture and I don't like it I will get them to change it idc if it's "your" art, it's MY body. I could like your style but not like the construction of the idea I gave you
Did he really just say that he likes doing pinterest tattoos but thinks tattoo copying should be illegal??? Buddy you're going to jail then ig
hannah mantana did you not hear him? Sometimes people will allow it orrrr you change it up
@@Dirttyb0ngwater lmao I heard him but for him to say that he's totally fine with doing them then say he thinks its wrong to copy is contradictory because pinterest is full of random stolen pictures and artwork
@@hannahmantana5084 pretty sure he's talking about those simple pinterest tattoos that don't need talent to design them. Like infinity symbols or simple hearts and stuff
@@scribotis2027 it's honestly probably some of both I just know whenever I'm on pinterest theres a bunch of people with the same tats and if you trace the image back to the original artist it's their design that just got used over and over most likely without permission
Im currently practicing tattooing and tbh I don't give a fuck if im copying something lmao
Not a big fan of the tipping thing, you don’t tip a builder for building your wall. You pay what’s quoted, that’s a service as well
Why not just raise your price to what you want to get paid? If you want 20% more, ask for it. That whole tipping thing in the US seems dishonest to me because it blurs the price customers have to pay.
@@butchjohnson9736 If you raise your prices, you take yourself out of the game. You have to keep pace with what's going on around you.
@@guerrero_beto When you break down everything the artist does outside the shop in regards to your tattoo, as well as all of our out of pocket expenses, tattoo artists aren't as well paid as you think.
@@butchjohnson9736 people in the UK do tipping too...
a builder works by a blueprint that someone else made and has no creative licence, thats what an architect is for. A tattoo artist not only has to do the tattoo, which sure go cheap and see what happens, but when you go to a good one most of the time they have to design it as well and constantly make changes to it based on what the customer wants, many people will even ask for changes as the tattoo is being put on their skin. its a craft, an art and unless you go to some dude in his basement not all that money goes to the artist, like ya know any business, the money goes back into the studio and many artist are apprenticed too and do make minimal or under intern status make less then minimal wage. thats why you tip them... more well off artist have even told me and others i know tipping isnt necessary because theyre well off, thats not the case the majority of tattooers
"needles don't go in a gun"
someone seems to have forgotten about the blow gun which uses blow darts which are needles
He's being a prescriptivist douchebag about the difference being tattoo gun and tattoo machine. If the person knew what the person meant, then it's correct usage. Tattoo artists insulting the intelligence of their customers while knowing nothing about linguistics, being prescriptivists. These uneducated fucks only self worth is correcting people on minor shit that doesn't matter. Machine, gun, it doesn't fucking matter. THEY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
Should of vs should have
Could've vs could of
Fewer and lesser
Decimate meaning 10% (this one is seriously stupid).
You wouldn't use should of in a formal setting, but it's fine to use otherwise. Same with irregardless, and could care less, etc. If people know what you mean, and they can immediately 'correct' you, then you're in the right and you can disregard that person as a pedantic, uneducated (but educated enough to 'correct' people based on bad info) loser.
It's clear they only have a high school education, because high school English teachers are notoriously prescriptivistic in their teachings. Words have specific meanings and uses and you cannot go outside of that. Except you can, and that's how language works.
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway you're still wrong if you use the wrong words. Just because people understand what you mean, doesn't make it right, more just you were close enough they can work past your idiocy.
Blowdarts aren't guns clown it's a pipe not a gun and darts aren't needles that's like calling a nail or a screw a needle because it has a point at the end
@@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway a Gun and a machine are different, also if you pride yourself on your art and are providing it as a service, you would correct the customer. It’s not rude to say “it’s called a machine, not a gun” bc its nothing like a gun in any way shape or form
The tipping comment is so absurd. You know who really needs tips waiters and delivery guys. People who are making the bare minimum. Not tattoo artists, especially not someone well off such as this guy.
Cassandra Perkins and that’s why tattoo artists have a bad reputation
These artists set their own price and almost demand tips, that too, a 20%. This is stupidity.
How do you know how much friggen money this guy makes?!
And not ALL tattooers work for themselves! MANY get 50% & 50% goes to the SHOP! Dumb fkn comment
20-30% is kinda rough for a tip😂 I got a $3000 sleeve done and tipped 10% which was receieved as more than enough. It was a wonderful experience, but an extra 6-900$ is ridiculous to be expected as a tip.
I'd prefer to see more experienced artists weigh in on this stuff. This interview is a little scattered and contradictory.
Yup
@John The King Robinson wtf he's obviously in his 20's
Tipping is NOT standard. Many artists account for that in the quote. If they go above and beyond, like stay late, do phenomenal work, personable, etc., then add more. Just like the other service careers, tip based on quality of service, not just some standard for no reason.
Thank you.
No we don't.
Yeah i'm sorry, if i'm already paying 500$ for a tattoo and that was the agreed apon price, i'm not throwing in an extra 100$ just because it's "standard"
I'm not against tipping all together or anything, but this guy throwing out there that 20% is always expected just makes him sound like an ass
@@shellymarie4027 You hand me a cookie and say thanks and you'll be my favorite client. I mean, money tips are welcomed, but also, cookies.
so for my $500 tattoo i should pay another $100?!? is that not just crazy
Na, I never expect a tip afterwards. I agree when a client is paying money for a tattoo, the artist gets their money and usually pays a rent to the shop for tattooing there and asking for a tip is arrogant.
It depends on where you are. Some countries it wont be nessasry but others it's pretty standard. Unless they pay booth rent, 30-50% of the money you pay goes to the shop. So a 500 dollar tattoo they could only see 250 of it.
Yea, that's the price you pay working in someone else's shop. But the way I see it, a job where you make 100-300 in a day after paying your dues, is a good job to me. I don't bitch as long as I get to tattoo. And the more you work, the more you get paid.
If you have clients all day. When you don't work in a street shop, there's a slow season. Sometimes you make $100 in a week. If that. I don't know what its like in a street shop. And your 100-300 is knocked down to 80-240 after you deduct your taxes. Then take out the cost of your out of pocket health insurance. And your supplies. 100-300 is nowhere near 100-300.
@@highflowerfairy2554 well if YOU'D rather work at McDonalds for minimum wage instead of doing something you should love and and receiving $100 a day, by all means, go ahead! If not, stop bitching because if you love doing tattoos and are able to, that $100 that a majority of people don't make a day at another job, is well worth it!! Idk, maybe I'm more appreciative for what I got and don't take it for granted. That's why many artists are fucking arrogant assholes!
20% tip for an entire sleeve is outrageous
Glue guns don't shoot glue out either. Technically neither does a rivet gun. Gun doesn't immediately have to mean firearm
A Cali libtard in action, contradicting himself, making rules that benefit him etc... I wonder if the shop he works at has a safespace.
Getting triggered over the term “tattoo GUN” my god....
Okay if I'm paying 175 to 300 dollars an hour. There's no way in hell you're getting a tip. I do plumbing it's a service too. We don't expect a tip😂
I like how people justify tipping, "It's a service". I've never gotten a tip for fixing people's cars but people like to tip the guy who washes/valets your vehicle. I don't ever hear of people tipping their doctors, teachers, bus drivers ...
@@nahqiv so is a car
why should we tip the tattoo artist? Like I already payed you for $1000 for 3 hours of work, now you want an extra donation?
Is there something I am missing?
Probably because people who don't own the shop but work there have to give a cut to the owner and it can be quite a bit, kind of like waitresses and such. Plus they usually also buy their own set up and stuff.
Indeed, absolute BS. A US thing I think.
@@IslaSkye123 I mean I agree that the tipping thing is slightly annoying and they should just charge what they expect to get but that's not the way it usually works. I will say though my first few I got done in a shop I didn't tip because I wasn't aware you're supposed to and no one said anything. Also now if I'm getting something done that only takes about an hour I just automatically give a 20 dollar tip. I don't bother with the % and they seem happy with that. Different everywhere you go I suppose.
Roupization tipping in any service industry- tattoo, nails, hair, piercings, etc, it’s just what you do. Unless it’s the owner of the shop, then I believe it’s not required.
@@cinnamongirl8890 Is that true though? I would expect they probably split the money between themselves in someway, but I never would of guessed the tattoo artists themselves are getting bled dry by the tattoo shop owner. I dont think its like a watress/waiter type of thing
Artist in the US charge crazy amounts of money which I understand because they are artists and they are selling art but the fact that they expert a 20% tip it's just crazy for me. Here in Europe they give you a price and that's the price, I mean if you loved the tattoo and you can afford it sure give a tip but don't expect a tip from me if you are giving me the price and that price it's already super expensive.
Andrea M. We tip food service workers in the US because they don’t make minimum wage (they make like half minimum wage, some only $3/hr) because they are expected to get tips and tips are taxed. It’s a horribly unfair system. The fact that tattoo artists who make at least minimum wage and set their own prices expect to be tipped, especially this guys ridiculous 20%, is really rude.
Julia explained it correctly, everyone else just tries to ride on that. And it doesn't even include all food service. The jar on the counter in the ice cream shop is just for change you don't want. Also, it isn't really fair to compare prices, especially tattoos because you have to account for health and safety standards which impact the artist's overhead.
Go to Europe and get my tattoo? Say less. Sounds more memorable
Not every tattoo shop is like that, I’m in the US I have two sleeves, neck tattoos, face tattoos, tattoos on my legs and guess what? None of the various artists or shops I went to ever said shit about a tip. Idk where these bozos are from but I’ve never encountered this type of mess.
I think it's because here in Europe we don't have the same mentality with tips. Here we usually tip to show that we appreciate the service. As a thank you basically. But in America some jobs need the tips because they aren't paid enough otherwise.
When I was traveling in the US, I always had to remind myself to tip people because I kept forgetting lol.
That being said, I'm not sure I understand why a tattoo artist needs tips.
“People walk in with a design ready to go”
“Tattoo copying should be illegal”
Tattoo copying means directly stealing another tattoo artist's image designed for a specific client, likely with their personal preferences/body geography/additional adjustments in mind. Walking in with a picture of a symbol from a comic book, picture of cacti, etc, is not remotely the same. Calm down there, bud.
In my country we don't tip unless we're reeeeeeally impressed with the service given, it's not a god-given right like it is in the US. I have tipped a couple of times in my life and the other person was always too embarrassed to take it so I had to basically force it into their hand!
Its not a starred in the U.S. other than waitersses/waiters in restraint and that's mostly out of them being played less
In the US we tip people in the food service industry like a waiter or waitress because they make less than minimum wage (some make $3/hr) because tips are expected and tips are also taxed. It's a terrible system. Other than that no one should just expect a tip. Tattoo artists shouldn’t expect a tip because they set their own prices, especially not 20% tip.
I paid for $1,200 for a tat. I ain't tipping bro
I always say tattoo gun. a glue gun isn't a gun but thats what its called. frig off
It’s a machine...
The thing is the glue gun looks like a Gun more and like you plug it in and gets loaded, a tattoo machine is much more than a ”Gun”
You don't dip a glue gun in glue or dip a handgun in bullet. You dip a tattoo machine in ink.
His point of "guns" not having needles a spray gun like painting a vehicle it is very much a gun and guess what it LITTERLY USES A (get a load of this) A NEEDLE. It affects the flow of air which affects the thickness and texture of the paint. So there you go a gun that has a needle
If im paying 500 bucks for a tattoo. You aint getting a fing tip.
if your paying $500 for a tattoo it had better be a big one (or detailed) and if you want to keep a good relationship with your artist its best to tip. or you might get a dick in your tattoo. ya never know.
Cassandra Perkins A dick in my tattoo? That’d be pretty fucking stupid on their part because if someone puts a dick in my tattoo they’re definitely getting sued
@@Magoo7956 mmh.. no law saying dicks can't be penned on skin bud keep your emotions out of this lol
Right, if I'm already paying 500 I'm not giving you an extra An $100 lol
@@cassandraperkins3397 my guy usually charges 300 flat for good work and doesn't expect a tip lol
THANK you for actually acknowledging that clients need to KNOW whether they can AFFORD the tattoo. All other videos i've seen artists are so mad that people ask how much money they will be spending as if everyone needs to just shut up and pay whatever... what if they can't afford it
If they can't afford it they shouldn't even walk into a shop just saying
I had an artist get upset with me when I tried to tip him.... I'm so confused
Haha I had the same with a piercer. I told them I wasn't going to leave until they accepted my tip, they eventually did. xD
Samantha Rau was he the owner??
It totally depends what country you’re in. Tipping is a very American phenomenon.
@@agentmothman5343 Before working for my boss, I was his barista at Starbucks. He wouldn't accept a tip from me after our first session together, so I reloaded his tip onto his Starbucks card. After that, for like three or four sessions, he'd tell me I over paid him, I'd tell him he undercharged me. He was also giving me a pretty sweet discount.
Eventually he gave up.
But when I try to buy stuff from the shop, he still tries to give me discounts. I hide the extra money someplace I know he'll find it that night.
@@highflowerfairy2554 you, Jessica, are a good person
I paid almost 2K on my first tattoo, no way I was going to tip. Yeah it looks amazing, but I'll already paid for it. I'm glad it's not from the US.
“we are independent contracters”
“always tip at least 20%”
wtf just charge more?
This guys sounds like a dooche imo, just bending the rules to favour him. The tipping thing, the service industry employees get tips because they often don't get paid without them in the US.
I don't get what he says about Pinterest but then not stealing tattoos, I don't know if they edited it out but he didn't say he changes them or just gets inspired by them.
I think by pinterest tattoo's he's referring to the little pictogram designs that aren't really copyrightable. Like an infinity symbol but its made of an arrow or treble clef or something. The kind of walk in tattoo where you pay whatever the shop's minimum is.
is this what tattoo elitism looks like?
Yes. With the wide brimmed hat and all. And the 20% min tip entitlement.
Y e s
Tipping is such an American thing, some people even have the audacity to expect it lol
It is a big thing over here for waiters and waitresses becuase they get paid next to nothing and rely on tips to semi afford basic living conditions. Nobody here can live on minimum wage alone and often waiters are paid less than that. I have no idea why a tatto artist would expect a tip tho, they set their own prices so? I don't know whats up with that
@@battsy9550 Yeah I'm willing to tip at a bar or restaurant if the service is sublime. But tattoo artists can just set their own price and it's a seller's market, if they want to get paid more they can simply raise their rate.
tasty Bates Tattooing costs a lot more than when you’re just in the shop. Several hours of drawing. Cost of ink and needles to start is a minimum of $500, you sit for five hours at $100/hr that’s $500, a tip for a one of a kind, well done piece of art that has thousands of dollars of investment and countless hours of time when YOU are not there is highly appreciated. If you can’t respect artists and the work we go through to do what you want, don’t get a tattoo. Not to mention, 20-50% of that $500 tattoo isn’t ours. Remember, we PAY to work in a shop. So out of that $500, your artist makes a lot less than you realize. Don’t wanna tip? Don’t expect a good tattoo from a good artist.
@@SashaZemlyaX then charge 20% more for the tatt? I am an artist, I fully understand the work that goes into tattoos and it should be fully paid for. Don't get pissed over someone not giving you more money than you asked for. Want to get paid for all that work? Charge for all that work. I will pay for the price set and not more. A lot goes into fixing up and selling a car but I'm not about to pay the man more for the car because he didn't include the cost of fixing it. That's on him, not me.
tasty Bates I don’t get pissed, I don’t tattoo people that I know don’t tip.
everyone is saying the same basic shit dude i dont need 5 people to tell me i should shower thats just common sense
A lot of people lack common sense.
Totally agree- there are loads of people with no common sense enuf to use proper hygiene before a tattoo appt.
@LaRon Mathews Yeah but those poeple won't shower now that this video is out.
@LaRon Mathews Well exactly. So saying "shower" in those videos is pointless. the people who don't shower are just dirty. its not that the think they dont have too xD
You'd be surprised the smelly fcks that come in 😂😂😂😂
20% tip are you kidding me! You're paying the artist for the service already you shouldn't have to pay more than the agreed upon price .
Tipping is more for like when they go above and beyond what they could’ve done.
@@kingplo1 but the come across as if it is mandatory
Why can't just include the "tip" in original pricing.
like he didnt include it in the price multiple times already
They do this guy is just a prick
1. tipping is not normally expected in a tattoo shop, to most artists. artists usually set their prices, for that very reason, and most artists don't usually expect tips, LET ALONE 20%.
2. it's contradicting to say, "it's easy money if someone brings me a tattoo design from Pinterest", but then saying that copying tattoos should be illegal.
3. NEVER ever ever keep Saniderm on for 4-5 days, without changing it out! your tattoo needs to breathe, and if you don't let it breathe, it's not going to heal correctly. Saniderm is, essentially, plastic wrap with glue around the perimeter, to keep your tattoo from infections or scratches, etc. but you can/should take it off anywhere between 2-24 hours after the tattoo is done and wrapped. you can re-wrap it, with normal plastic wrap and tape, if you so desire, but it's not necessary, as long as it's kept moisturized, either by using the healing ointment they give you, or with other ointments, such as Aquaphor, but in small amounts. don't put too much, because your pores will get too clogged with the ointment, and it may affect your tattoo.
please please please do your research. it is the artist's job to tell you correct after-care, and that is the one thing that really, really bothered me, because you can really mess up your tattoo by not taking proper care of it.
Rule #1 when getting a tattoo, don’t get it done by someone like this
Last I checked the tattoo “gun” gets “loaded” with ink and then the ink is “shot” into my skin. Also a mechanism like a trigger (foot pedal) to engage its function. Sure does sound like a gun.
20%??? Dude hellllll no. I bought a $600 tattoo and tipped $100- I’m pretty sure he was fine with that.
Tipping a tattooer, WTF?? Dude you set your own price
but everyone else on this damn channel have been crazy about people asking a price, this guy gets it
who is this guy telling people what kind of sleeve to get...?
I don't think he meant it harshly. More from experience because many start out quite small and then battle to do a sleeve that makes sense and have to do cover ups then. A lot of artists in my country refuse to do cover ups. So I'm sure he is just advising based on experience with sleeves.
I'm paying for the service and I still need to tip for the service??
It’s a service, that I’m paying for, based on your price. Why do I have to include more money?
So I know this artist and had known him for years and years. His work was clean, super nice and I liked his style. I am VERY OPEN minded when it comes to what tattoo artist do. I went to him picked out what I wanted. It was an original piece he made. I told him do your thing I trust you. And I actual did this on 2 diff pieces. First one was good except he used the same color purple to contrast purple.. The 2nd piece still isn't finished 2 years later.... I tipped great I paid good money for each piece. And had full trust... Now I have an undone piece that I've paid in full for. And now he lives in diff state. I'm pissed. Lol don't know where I went wrong but it's deff bullsh*t. And then I seen he did my first piece on someone else when I thought he said he wouldn't do that.
Sue the bitch. xD
Katrina Kelly 😬😮
That’s illegal
I'm new to being a tattoo client but i think I got it now. I have to accept whatever ludicrous price that is called up, because art is invaluable, then I let my tattooer decide what i get and whats best for me, don't change anything because thats lack of trust and i have to blindly trust my tattooer, when I'm in pain, I ask if it's ok to stop now,which,of course, the tattoo "artist" decides. And when ,by the godly grace of my tattooer, the piece is done, i pay an extra 20% on my already very expensive tattoo, because everything else would be rude and its a service. Yet , if I accidentally mention the fact that the tattooer is a service provider, he or she gets offended and might kick me out, because i underestimate the free spirited, artistic value of the tattoo "artist". Now that's what i call a solid concept.
I have no problems with extra people watching including kids. I own a very kid friendly shop and my partners keep great conversation going at all times.
I'm so confused... Tipping on a tattoo that you already negotiated a price for.
Yeah, he's an entitled jackass.
Him: If you want a sleeve don’t get many small tattoos.
Me: ........
Marie. My small tattoos have now basically made a whole arm sleeve! Just need to fill in with some floral vines kinda connecting all.
That’s because it won’t have a flow it will look like some random stamps all over I guess depends how they do the sleeve
Patch work sleeves are the best!
Themed planned out sleeves are for try hards
Lol that was my same reaction, he acts like patch work sleeves don’t exist, some people don’t want to get or sit for a sleeve with one big theme
If you expect a 20% tip then include it in your price. Cause if thats what your worth is your price and a 20% on top just put it in your price.
" A needle doesn't go in a gun"
What about a piercing gun!
Joan Dorman needles don’t go in those either. They put an earring in it and stab it through your ear with blunt force.
Guess it's a piercing machine then.....(sarcasm)
I think that letting the artist do their thing and make you what they love the most to be the best way to get a great tattoo. This way it will be the highest quality.
tippping 20% because is a service, so I have to tipp my doctor too?
When you buy a painting, do you tip the painter? No you pay the price he’s acknowledged as what his services are worth.
I hate how he expects a 20% tip! But he's one of the only artists on here that hasn't gotten mad about people asking for the price early on so they know if they can afford it or not.
The more you demand for tips the less likely you’ll be tipped
Out of all the artists on here this is the only guy i wont get a tat from, voetsek.
20% of a $700 tattoo is $140. I’m not going to tip an hour of tattooing just because someone thinks I should tip 20%. I did for my last tattoo and just moving forward I’m not tipping more than $50 regardless of the expense of the over all price unless It’s thousands of dollars.
"I love Pinterest! People walk in, they have a design ready to go, you get it done"
nah...
Also "tattoo copying should be illegal".
@@agentmothman5343 our guy needs to make up his mind lmao
@@agentmothman5343 he did explain it.. he said you gotta put your own twist to it. Also, I'm pretty sure when he talks about pinterest tattoos he means like infinity symbols or simple hearts and that stuff, things that don't really need talent to design and can easily be done by anyone
@@scribotis2027 you haven't seen a lot of pinterest tattoos huh 👀
@@emmaelisha1339 Yes I have, pinterest used to be my most used app like two years ago
Plenty of great artists call it a tattoo gun
The machine thing is strange to me. Most of the older folks who did my tattoos called them irons.
I asked my artist buddy here in SA about tips he was so confused that's something for apprentices once you aren't one anymore you just set your price fairly and don't expect a tip.
Tipping is up to you the customer! Personally I account in for the shop fees,ink etc. So I like to give a little more for the artist. You don't have to tip but it's 100% appreciated by the artist! I've heard some shops incorporating it into the price already but not alot do so tip percentage can range from 10,15 or 20%. Basically the point is it's up to you the customer.
Tipping is indeed up to you, but there is nothing saying you should do it. I hate artists like this who state they want a 20% tip, it's just mental. They set the price and then expect more, that leave I would never get work from them.
@@lhiannan02 well that was my whole point it's up to the customer if they want to tip no ones forcing it's just an appreciation thing. I feel like they could have chosen someone better for this it's a mess of a video. No one should be demanding a certain amount that just intimidates or pisses off a customer.
I wouldn't tip this guy and I say tattoo gun all the time. Blow me
And don't forget the pinterest tattoo
I really don't get why people get upset when they hear tattoo gun. It almost makes me want to say it more honestly
@@conrad7551 millennials are used to being told how to think and what words to use so they don't question it, they just parrot it
Would you tip him if he did blow you?
@@fuscinula you know I would, I'm not rude
I don’t wanna get tattooed by this guy :l
Have you done a video on how to build a relationship with a tattoo artist? Best practices at approaching a new tattoo artist to get the best outcome?
I think it’s fine to tip waters that too it’s a bit weird to tip if your a student I don’t think students should tip but other than waters, delivery people, lobby ppl, I don’t see the point to tip also again students shouldn’t be obligated to tip.
I guess rivet guns, grease guns, and hot glue guns are all wrong too, huh?
aksalskalksaksja it's a hot glue _machine._
Just got a massive tattoo for almost 2,000. No way in hell im tipping 20% on that. My artist was wonderful and I had a great experience, I did tip but no fucking way am I tipping 20%
so do you tip at the mall? thats a service ?? do you tip when buying a car? thats a service? do you tip when you..... yeah you get the point......
Geralt Grey-Mane in those cases you’re just buying something
You tip at restaurants where they serve you your meal, come and check if you want another drink and stuff
There’s a difference between just selling a product and selling a service
@@jaybird2616 depends on where you live.. waiters in European countries don't expect a tip
@@jaybird2616 well i guess tiping is more common in USA then :D got both my arms and back and chest done and never even once been askt or heard anyone tiping here in sweden ^^
@@jaybird2616 who gives a fuck it's the job THEY want to be doing presumably for the rest of their lives and you already have to spend hundreds to thousands on tattoos. I'm not fucking tipping 20% to some bitch made artists who's charging me 500 to 1000$ for a piece already are you fucking stupid? Actually a better question is are all of them stupid as fuck? "We dont get as much money as you think" uhhh yeah you do. If you have enough to own a car or two and a house and can pay for yourself you're making enough. If you want MORE money then do more shit that's actually worth people giving you more money then what the price actually is. Okay? Cool
Geralt Grey-Mane never knew it wasn’t a thing in Europe. But tipping in US is def the proper etiquette.
no mud wrestling with pigs...... that was VERY specific
I understand why I would tip a waiter or a cab driver who makes below minimum wage and has an income based on tips, but why would I tip a tattoo artist? A tattoos are very expensive and I understand part of it goes to the shop, but you're still making a lot of money for the amount of time you spend on each client.
Exactly!
Yeah part goes to the shop but they also have to buy their own ink and tools. I do think it shouldn’t be so “necessary” to tip tattoo artists however even if it weren’t “necessary” I would tip since they are providing a service that I will (hopefully) cherish my whole life.
So let me get this straight.... I show up at your business which is reputed to do excellent tattoo work with my hard-earned money that I'm going to give to you to get one of your excellent tattoos and you want me to dig in my pocket deeper and give you more of my hard-earned money as a reward for you doing an excellent tattoo..?
yeah I never understood the tip thing.you know in japan you cant tip at restaurants?
It's like applauding a fish for swimming...i mean really..???!?! Quit being a greedy douchebag
Especially when you the tatto artist set the price for what ur gonna do
Needles do go in guns, theres needle fire revolvers and rifles that where precursors to the modern bullet casing.
It's an interesting Google if your into old guns
Every other artist says they don’t expect tips, this guy seems really picky with his clientele and like a know it all. Other people like bang bang and josh lord are so chill and modest and then there’s this dude
What have we learned here? If you wear that hat indoors, everyone on the internet will hate you no matter what you say
I always tip on any service.onece my artist was shocked at a 30% tip
the only thing these videos have taught me is that these tattoo artists have extremely fragile egos and victim complexes
Im gonna tip my tattoo artist when we finish my sleeve because i appreciate the rime and effort he put in to not only doing the tattoo but for designing most of it himself. With that said if you're just getting a straight forward tattoo with little input from the artist and you're done in a day, fuck a tip. Unless its just the best work you've ever seen.
As a tattoo artist, I appreciate a tip but I don't feel it's required. Especially when canvases/clients/whatever the hell your preferred to be called when getting a tattoo, are paying hundreds of dollars to get the tattoo done in the first place. Generally the reason why shops have their own way of "rent" of salary to cover that shit.
As a tattoo artist and client, I hate when people refer to human beings as canvases. It dehumanizes your clients.
@@highflowerfairy2554 yea and another has bitched about being called a client because he's not a Jon! To each their own, don't you have something better to do then troll EVERY comment on this video?! Maybe work on your painting or portfolio, less social media, more art! My other comment in another person's thread still stands, you don't seem to happy to be a tattoo artists from your comments. Then why do it?! Dueces.✌
I like pointing my tattoo gun at canvases so I can see the tears of hipsters and millennials as they cry about terminology
@@highflowerfairy2554 your not a troll who compulsively writes one comment after another on multiple people's threads?! I'm pretty sure you fit the title well. Btw, I edited it just for you doll, so your ass hurts just a little less!😚
@@craigd123 😂 Watch out, she'll think your threatening her with your "gun".
I'm really fucking glad an artist on here said "ask about price to make sure you can afford it" when like, half of the artist on here always say "don't ask me how much something is going to be, if you do, you care more about money than my art"
“A needle doesn’t go in a gun” you’re forgetting about a harpoon gun
Why would i tip someone who is already putting his quality on the price lmao?
You tip waitress because they all get paid the same, so you reward good service(it's bullshit anyway).
You already paid more to a good tattoo artist for him to do a good service.
7:41-8:20 Price Haggling/ pricing. Then wtf am I giving you a 20% tip!?
I mean, I could see tipping if the tattooist spent a lot of time designing your idea, back and forth, with several touch ups or if he stayed later than the meeting so he could finish it up nicely. Besides that, no dinero, amigo.
I tip my artist because since I go to her so much she ends up quoting me less then her stated rate when I’m leaving, she is a great artist and I gave her total control of my half sleeve and she has done my back as well . That being said I don’t appreciate some of these guys expectations of even though I set my price and quoted you a price pay me more🤔like nah bruh
“Atleast 20%”
Tips are tips.
Yes they should be given.
But I don’t think you are forced to give a tip.
It’s a thing you should do for the work that has been given
He sets the price for his tattoos, if you want more money make it more expensive. I‘m not gonna tip at a tattoo shop wtf it‘s not a restaurant and you don‘t depend on the tips, you get the money anyway.
Glad screech finally found work
so...don't ask how much an artist charges but find out how much it is going to cost to make sure you can afford it...cool