Could have done with a bit more guidance; it wasn't much of a conversation until he basically said at the end 'hey, talk to each other!' - you could have got most of the rest from written questions and answers. And some of it rambled a bit. Sometimes interruption is a good thing: there are a few tangents that would have been interesting to follow up on.
***** I can respect that. His was very original and set the tone for the darker Batman we all know now! Quite a challenge to distance from the 60s campy Batman we all knew. Zimmer's theme is my favorite. It wasn't a parody of Elfman's and was good at setting the moods for scenes. I say the same thing about Zimmer's Man of Steel theme versus Williams original. I just enjoy Zimmer's work too much.
@@lnfreeman Ehh, I think the Bird Box score was a perfectly adequate score for a perfectly adequate movie. It's way below TR/AR's calibre though, I agree. But we'll see if the extended soundtrack would improve it.
You are not wrong. But that notion has been truly catastrophic for the film composers. It has changed the way directors look at film scores, in a conformist and contemporary - formulaic way. Now composers feel pressured to compose like Hans. And it's very sad. Because we don't see many sounds like Danny's anymore... And I know he has expressed this as well. Sorry for the rant
Kevin Cassidy did a phenomenal job interviewing, letting them talk without interrupting, finding interesting parts of dialogue for them to expound upon. Very well done.
+Annie Burke you gotta get one with Desplat especially since he's doing Rogue One. I'd like to see one with Ramin Djawadi but he may not be big enough I guess.
One thing that seems unique about Danny Elfman is that he believes that music can and should be an important part of the film. He's the only one who challenges the (frankly, silly) notion that good film music does not call attention to itself. Listen to 40:24. He also talks at 6:34, 20:47, 28:47, 42:47, 43:55.
I don’t think it’s particularly silly. For the same reason the camera should not draw attention to itself, it breaks the 4th wall and undermine’s the storytelling. Of course he’s right that there are exceptions, but the philosophy isn’t unfounded.
Completly agree! Elfman is/was one of the last great melodists of the 20th century in regards to film scoring. We now have Zimmer and Co.'s forgettable drone to carry us into the 21st. The death of melody is in full swing.
Ahmed Raouf lol i thought the same, i mean poor guys his just presenting his perfect husbando while the others feels jealous, thought john powell have deblois who gave him creative freedom in how to train your dragon
I love having Danny Elfman and Hans Zimmer together. I think a table with Danny Elfman, John Williams, Hans Zimmer, Howard Shore, Alan Menken, and Philip Glass would be an amazing table.
I loved this conversation but I thought an expert in music as a moderator would have been able to get these incredible people to smile and celebrate each other but still insightful and appreciated
I loved every single minute of this. These guys are all my inspirations. I only hope one day I can create music that is even half as good as their music.
Can't stand to hear John Powell so dissatisfied with his sound when I'd give anything to compose like him. He's by far my favourite round that table. I understand the need to innovate but the day that orchestral music starts getting called old fashioned is a very sad day to me.
16:07 they show a clip of Interstellar I assume to hear Hans Zimmer's score but the score that is played was actually composed by Dario Marianelli from V for Vendetta :/
Fucking marketing companies, man. The music isn't even the worst part: They make every trailer look either like a chick-flick tearjerker, an Adam Sandler comedy, or a Transformers explosion-tits-guns-coaster.
Nameguy Personally it's one of the most powerful trailers I've seen, and to me it encapsulates the movie better than the movie itself in many ways, but there's still footage in it that wasn't in the film (seems to be a common blight in modern trailers) and clumsily cut dialogue (also a recurring ballsack)
1 oscar is already great. thomas newman has never won an oscar despite 14 nominations. john newman just won 5 in his career and he got nominated 48 times!
As an aspiring film composer, these are the conversations I really appreciate. I think a lot of people want to see them in the studio or teaching, but I do find so much value in this conversations about the heart of the process.
I think it's funny (in a private chuckle to self kind of way), the comment Trent made about old school listening to records while doing nothing else. I have been doing that of late with his Nine Inch Nails "Ghosts 1-4" album. I have an LP of it...for those of you that don't know, it's 4 records. Each track a sample of instrumental/digital music. Just sit at night in the dark and listen to all the detail in his creations and relax. It inspires me.
It's also a collection of leftovers from the album Year Zero. That doesn't dissuade from how great it is, but it is also very obvious once you listen to the actual album that the songs themselves are missing something. The album is also just $5.00, or free if you are willing to search for it on a torrent site. Don't worry about the legality of it, they actually released Ghosts I-IV and The Slip to torrent sites officially.
Some of these guys were my heroes growing up,trying to make music from scratch,try to "steal" some of their magic.I think a lot of people who are into composing/producing took and still take a lot on inspiration from people like Zimmer,Mansell,Williams etc but to see other people appreciate film composers is awesome to me,because these guys don't project themselves,they're not celebrities(thankfully)and sometimes don't get all the credit they deserve,and really,they do compose epic pieces of music.Some great musicians right here.
That was bloody fantastic, especially if you're a composer. Very interesting to learn that Trent Reznor is has exactly the same process as me of drawing inspiration from a setting/mood/sound which leads to the formation of a melody. I'm a HUGE NIN fan, but I always knew he could also write amazing classical(ish) music if he tried. "Too bad we'll never know what he'd have come up with", I always thought to myself. What a treat it was when I first heard he was dabbling in film scoring several years back. I'll be listening to his progression as a bonifide composer with great interest. His best stuff as a rock musician may be long gone, but he won't peak as a composer for several years to come. .
Barney W you know this is the thing I don't understand. I mean he is not a bad host he really ask good questions but he is a total control freak never let guests make a good conversation with eachother he wants everyone to stick with his questions and probably he sees all of those bad comments but he didn't even attempt to change his attitude. I don't live in US I don't know are these things shown on TV but what will change if these were 10 minutes longer?
The reason the directors of these films are among the elite best is they allow virtually complete freedom for the score composers to do what they do, and that dance is what makes everyone contributing exactly what they’re known for and why they’re so brilliant
This was really nice, I haven't seen many interviews with composers, it's usually either the directors or the stars that are interviewed. It seemed like these guys were used to being in their own heads a lot, but they were all polite and elaborative in their responses. Great interview!
Being fans of movies scores as well as Nine Inch Nails, seeing Danny Elfman and Trent Reznor sitting side by side is so freaking cool. Plus it's nice to finally get to put a face to the name with Marco Beltrami. We loved his score for the Carrie remake, man that was good! ~ Jester and Sly
Hans Zimmer song mountains is really epic on my studio speakers. Marco Beltrami bible study from the film 3-10 to Yuma is wonderful. Danny Elfman Batman theme is the definitive theme(dark mysterious) Trent Reznor is really fits with the films David Fincher does. How To Train Your Dragon 2 was the best animated film this year.
I don't really like how we didn't get to hear from everybody for some of the questions, especially the last one about what everybody listened to. I wanted to hear from Trent for that one.
As a massive film music fan, seeing Hans Zimmer (my personal idol), John Powell (creator of the extraordinary HTTYD scores), Danny Elfman (SO many memorable scores), and Reznor and Beltrami, those two I don't know much about, at a table talking, I love this!
@22:27, Elfman perfectly articulates an issue I have and think about all the time. There is a very fine line in working on ideas and submitting them to directors. You don't want to show them an idea that isn't fully realized, as they may not like it as they don't understand the unfulfilled parts like you do, but you don't want to work on it too long and get attached and still have it be rejected.
I've watched this countless times and love it just the same, absolutely incredible. I would absolutely go crazy if you had Brian Reitzell on your next show. Composer of Hannibal and countless other shows. He's a genius and it would be so fascinating to hear what he has to say in this environment you've set up. Thank you again for this!
I absolutely LOVED watching this! I'm familiar with music from all of these composers and it's great to listen to them all talk about their work and craft. What struck me most is when the interviewer asked whether or not they listen to movie scores for fun, and they emphatically said "no". Most of the music that I listen to comes from movie scores, which were composed by these guys and others. It's amazing that what I often crave most to listen to (stuff they've composed), they aren't interested in, at all. I also completely agree with them that music is supposed to be noticed in movies. Often times, the music drives the sentimentality of the movie. Once the credits roll, and the movie is over, it's the music that long sticks in your head, and is a constant reminder of what you've experienced. That's one of the reasons I love scores so much. It's like being able to consistently experience the feel of the movie without having to actually watch the movie again. It may be that many movie audience members don't spend a lot of time thinking about the music, which is probably why the interviewer figured it's not supposed to be noticed. However, when you think of a movie like "Conan the Barbarian" (The original), where music is played in nearly every scene, the movie would certainly be a completely different experience if it weren't for the music. It's clear that the score drives the story, yet the songs are able to stand alone without feeling as if they were written for specific movie scenes. I love movie scores, and this was an excellent interview.
Zimmer gets hated on to no end, but he was probably the foremost reaslistic-sampled-orchestra composer going for years. His setup was unparallelled in the time of significant memory limitations. He doesn't have classical training in music but he's made it work, and knows how to make great modern cues. That's one of the important things - making it sound right... I think Elfman's orginal batman score is superior, but the fact is that it was already used, and the dark knight series was supposed to be more brooding and realistic, so Zimmer's theme fits. The fact is that Zimmer brings a modern sound and is apparently the most accommodating composer to work with.
Rod Salka it's his copycats who canabilized his works, i only know few composers that are obviously inspired by him yet don't canabalized his style ( brian tyler, hiroyuki sawano and two steps from hell)
I really would like to see John Williams on this gathering. I like this interviewer that let the composers actually speak their minds and not interupt.
I loved this talk. This talk of a combination of some unique and some more similar composers. Keep doing them! I found it very interesting to hear what Trent and Hans had to say.
I totally agree with what Danny Elfman said about music not being just a background, unnoticed piece. if I don't feel the music or it doesn't draw me in-I don't bother looking for the composer's name. I think music should be sweeping and engaging, like a character in the story. this was very cool. I'd almost like to have a sit down with Danny Elfman and Trent Reznor on the finer points of writing rock music VS scoring. Danny and Trent are a good 10-15 years apart from Oingo Boingo and Nine Inch Nails, but they've come from that background into film music.
whats really interesting about this group is that its three composers who are primarily known for their work with a specific director i.e. Trent Reznor/David Fincher, Danny Elfman/Tim Burton, and Hans Zimmer/Christopher Nolan....I wonder how much the director is responsible for the quality of the score in some aspects
I would LOVE to see someone write a short maybe 20 min and have each of these artists write for it without uttering a word.. Give them the cut and write.. AND now that I riff on this, I thin kit would be GREAT to have like an "Iron Chef" scenario where they have a couple hours or so to write and finish a piece... Seems like fun... Hope someone reads this and will make it happen.
This is great, in the grand tradition of the masters these guys learned from and admired. I read somewhere that Alfred Newman---then head of music at 20th Century-Fox--- would call up contemporaries of his on a Friday morning---and get together for a couple of days raising steins and talking about film music or classical music. One could only wish they could be a fly on the wall and hear Newman, Steiner, Herrmann and Waxman wax philosophically about their music. These guys---particularly Zimmer and Elfman---are favorites of mine because they bring back the memories of past masters.
I would absolutely love to see one of these with trailer music composers. That would be really different. And then on top of that, one with movie composers AND trailer composers, and they discuss the differences in technique and all that jazz... or, epic.
This whole conversation just shows how much of a genius Hanz Zimmer is. Don't get me wrong everyone on here are genius but that man..........just shows his child is still intact and he's love the game of music.
I will bet a lot of money that at 46:03 John Powell was talking about Giacomo Puccini, who wrote Madama Butterfly, La boheme, Tosca, and Turandot, four of the most performed operas of all time, making him a composer like Beethoven or Mozart whose last name is recognizable to many. "Pacini's work is largely forgotten today" - a quote from the Wikipedia article from which I suspect the editor found the picture. I would also bet that Hans Zimmer's children (47:50) have not changed their last name to Zimmerman.
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This interviewer doesn't interrupt once. This is very refreshing.
Agreed! But I think it's because he had little to say.
Estevan Carlos Benson His questions were great.
Estevan Carlos Benson how it should be, he's the interviewer not interviewee
Could have done with a bit more guidance; it wasn't much of a conversation until he basically said at the end 'hey, talk to each other!' - you could have got most of the rest from written questions and answers. And some of it rambled a bit. Sometimes interruption is a good thing: there are a few tangents that would have been interesting to follow up on.
No... We could use more Megan Kellys in the world.
I'm actually very happy for Trent being recognized like this. The man is amazing.
+xlegionx Well let me help you; Trent Reznor was in a band called Filter.
+Doug Steele No no no. He was in backstreet boys
My apologies. Backstreet Boys were great until MCA died.
+João Ribeiro Yeah, he won the golden door stop for replicating music from the Cliffhanger DVD menu.
Ha ha ha!!
Notice how Trent Reznor is actually smiling and appreciating everything Hans Zimmer is saying. Great minds truly think alike.
Just noticed the same
Hans taught him and Atticus how to score Gone Girl
@@joshwilliams6517 source? Not sure if this is documented.
@@Jdshald interview says it
You'd be a fool if you didn't suck up some knowledge if you are sitting with someone like Zimmer and he's willing to share.
Can't believe the interviewer didn't ask Elfman and Zimmer about their thoughts on each others Batman score.
I know! I thought the same thing, a missed opportunity for sure.
ShieldsJustice I prefer Elfman's hands down.
I can absolutely believe it. You never, ever want to criticize another composer's work publicly... or any other creative professional.
fakshen1973
Who said anything about criticizing? Maybe they enjoyed each others versions.
*****
I can respect that. His was very original and set the tone for the darker Batman we all know now! Quite a challenge to distance from the 60s campy Batman we all knew. Zimmer's theme is my favorite. It wasn't a parody of Elfman's and was good at setting the moods for scenes. I say the same thing about Zimmer's Man of Steel theme versus Williams original. I just enjoy Zimmer's work too much.
Trent Reznor is three for three with Fincher. The Social Network, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and Gone Girl, all really good.
Sadly Birdbox burst that bubble a bit. But still he's killin it
@@lnfreeman Ehh, I think the Bird Box score was a perfectly adequate score for a perfectly adequate movie. It's way below TR/AR's calibre though, I agree. But we'll see if the extended soundtrack would improve it.
And it did
Mank and The Killer (2023)
And in 2024 still making movie magic.
Trent and hanz are making magic
You are not wrong. But that notion has been truly catastrophic for the film composers. It has changed the way directors look at film scores, in a conformist and contemporary - formulaic way. Now composers feel pressured to compose like Hans. And it's very sad. Because we don't see many sounds like Danny's anymore... And I know he has expressed this as well. Sorry for the rant
Two of my favorites, Hans Zimmer and Danny Elfman
Apparently film composers are the most humble people in the world.
nice how they put Danny and trent together. legends musically
yep!
It's pretty interesting looking back on this, that they've actually collaborated by now!
Check out their song True! It's very Dear Prudence-ish and fabulous 🤩😻
Kevin Cassidy did a phenomenal job interviewing, letting them talk without interrupting, finding interesting parts of dialogue for them to expound upon. Very well done.
He was given with almost an impossible task.
To engage the panel,
while not stealing the show.
Danny Elfman and John Powell: Two unappreciated geniuses.
rpistus They are literally appreciated.
With Academy Award(s)?
rpistus
By studios, directors, their audience and other composers. Does that need a shiny thing on top to make it all worthwhile?
That is why they give them. :)
In my book both Elfman and Powell are multiple Oscar winners. Sadly they can't put it on their shelf.
24:56 Zimmer starts talking about developing the sound of the Batman movies right in front of Danny Elfman!! LOL
I would love to see another composers round table with Alexandre Desplat, James Newton Howard, Howard Shore, etc.
+David Stedmond Shore writes amazing music for the celli. Probably best this side of Horner
+Annie Burke indeed
+Annie Burke you gotta get one with Desplat especially since he's doing Rogue One. I'd like to see one with Ramin Djawadi but he may not be big enough I guess.
+Annie Burke And Michael giachinno or however you spell his last name.
+Annie Burke Howard shore is the best :)
The host sounds like he's conducting an AA meeting.
You cracked myself up laughing with this HAHAHA
How many times have you gone back to those.
@@m.a.1416 zing
Cheers!
One thing that seems unique about Danny Elfman is that he believes that music can and should be an important part of the film. He's the only one who challenges the (frankly, silly) notion that good film music does not call attention to itself. Listen to 40:24. He also talks at 6:34, 20:47, 28:47, 42:47, 43:55.
I don’t think it’s particularly silly. For the same reason the camera should not draw attention to itself, it breaks the 4th wall and undermine’s the storytelling. Of course he’s right that there are exceptions, but the philosophy isn’t unfounded.
Completly agree! Elfman is/was one of the last great melodists of the 20th century in regards to film scoring. We now have Zimmer and Co.'s forgettable drone to carry us into the 21st. The death of melody is in full swing.
He’s a mad music scientist. One time he made some weird contraption out of a piano just to get the sound he wanted.
Han Zimmer is making Nolan look like a wet dream for any composer.
Maybe he is :D
Ahmed Raouf lol i thought the same, i mean poor guys his just presenting his perfect husbando while the others feels jealous, thought john powell have deblois who gave him creative freedom in how to train your dragon
They’re the perfect duo, hope they reunite for future projects.
I still can't believe Gone Girl's score didn't receive an academy nomination.
It's like the interviewer was in the presence of Olympian gods.
+Paul Staker fuck yeah
steve lombardo FUCK
yeah
*****
He's has transcended beyond the
patheon.
leasorola 1 Your Soul.
***** *eats*
I love having Danny Elfman and Hans Zimmer together. I think a table with Danny Elfman, John Williams, Hans Zimmer, Howard Shore, Alan Menken, and Philip Glass would be an amazing table.
I wanna give Danny elf man a big hug
I loved this conversation but I thought an expert in music as a moderator would have been able to get these incredible people to smile and celebrate each other but still insightful and appreciated
Gotta love Trent Reznor, definitely a big role model of mine
I loved every single minute of this. These guys are all my inspirations. I only hope one day I can create music that is even half as good as their music.
spoken like a real composer!
same
You can do it. Work hard if you really mean it.
I’m trying to do the same too
@@walterwhite4699 I thinkniys just soending a lot time doing it. You get better at getting whats in your head on the canvas as it were. Thats the aim.
34:10 Elfman wishes Tim Burton could be more protective and caring like Nolan :'(
Mastermind group. Is like The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for music composers.
Can't stand to hear John Powell so dissatisfied with his sound when I'd give anything to compose like him. He's by far my favourite round that table. I understand the need to innovate but the day that orchestral music starts getting called old fashioned is a very sad day to me.
A+++ interviewer. This guy knows what he's doing
This was so nice to hear. Danny Elfman is my absolute favorite.
Love hearing these masters talk about music and art! gives me hope to hear the struggles they face everyday
16:07 they show a clip of Interstellar I assume to hear Hans Zimmer's score but the score that is played was actually composed by Dario Marianelli from V for Vendetta :/
Fucking marketing companies, man. The music isn't even the worst part: They make every trailer look either like a chick-flick tearjerker, an Adam Sandler comedy, or a Transformers explosion-tits-guns-coaster.
Nameguy yeah it's daft, the music from the homesman isn't actually heard throughout the actual film
Nameguy tits guns coaster hahaha
Nameguy Personally it's one of the most powerful trailers I've seen, and to me it encapsulates the movie better than the movie itself in many ways, but there's still footage in it that wasn't in the film (seems to be a common blight in modern trailers) and clumsily cut dialogue (also a recurring ballsack)
DaveDexterMusic what trailer?
When John Powell is going on about orchestral music being old-fashioned, Hans is just staring at him like "whaaat?" XD
How Hans Zimmer only have 1 Oscar after all the masterpieces of work he has done is a complete mystery.
Hopefully one is forthcoming for Dune!
1 oscar is already great. thomas newman has never won an oscar despite 14 nominations. john newman just won 5 in his career and he got nominated 48 times!
Wow, look at my rock god Trent Reznor! He looks so different, but still great.
I like Zimmer's purple velvet jacket. He seems very supportive and friendly towards the others.
This need a extra hour!!! Just 50 minutes?? Why?? This is extraordinary! I think I need more of this!!
I want Trent and Hans to interview each other. Legendary conversation.
As an aspiring film composer, these are the conversations I really appreciate. I think a lot of people want to see them in the studio or teaching, but I do find so much value in this conversations about the heart of the process.
Fuck yeah Trent Reznor and Danny Elfman
+kevin morin
" I want to score you like an animal."
+arnebarnard I want to orchestrate the staves from the inside..
Damn it man!! Can't we just enjoy the interview with these great composers!!
Interstellar'a score is still in my head
+Dominic Cunneen That score purified my soul
When Coop drove away from home the score hit me directly in the stomach and I wept.
+The ZenOne If you liked it you probably should check out Phillip Glass's 'Koyaanisqatsi'.
Amadeus Folego Surprisingly, I wasn't that much of a fan of his work on Koyaanisqatsi, but I do really enjoy Glassworks :)
The ZenOne You might also checkout Gutav Holst's Jupiter and Mars
I think it's funny (in a private chuckle to self kind of way), the comment Trent made about old school listening to records while doing nothing else. I have been doing that of late with his Nine Inch Nails "Ghosts 1-4" album. I have an LP of it...for those of you that don't know, it's 4 records. Each track a sample of instrumental/digital music. Just sit at night in the dark and listen to all the detail in his creations and relax. It inspires me.
It's also a collection of leftovers from the album Year Zero. That doesn't dissuade from how great it is, but it is also very obvious once you listen to the actual album that the songs themselves are missing something. The album is also just $5.00, or free if you are willing to search for it on a torrent site. Don't worry about the legality of it, they actually released Ghosts I-IV and The Slip to torrent sites officially.
Some of these guys were my heroes growing up,trying to make music from scratch,try to "steal" some of their magic.I think a lot of people who are into composing/producing took and still take a lot on inspiration from people like Zimmer,Mansell,Williams etc but to see other people appreciate film composers is awesome to me,because these guys don't project themselves,they're not celebrities(thankfully)and sometimes don't get all the credit they deserve,and really,they do compose epic pieces of music.Some great musicians right here.
Favorite composers: John Williams, Danny Elman, Alan Silvestri
That was bloody fantastic, especially if you're a composer. Very interesting to learn that Trent Reznor is has exactly the same process as me of drawing inspiration from a setting/mood/sound which leads to the formation of a melody. I'm a HUGE NIN fan, but I always knew he could also write amazing classical(ish) music if he tried. "Too bad we'll never know what he'd have come up with", I always thought to myself.
What a treat it was when I first heard he was dabbling in film scoring several years back. I'll be listening to his progression as a bonifide composer with great interest. His best stuff as a rock musician may be long gone, but he won't peak as a composer for several years to come. .
We need the 2 hour version of this interview!
the interstellar music they play for hans at 16:10 is "evey reborn", by dario marianelli, from v for vendetta...
The score for the HTTYD movies is so amazing.
Danny Elfman and Hans Zimmer in the same room, a dream come true.
This interviewer is so much better than Galloway. He facilitates transitions between topics without really cutting any of them off. I like him.
yep galloway has to do less interviews
i would love to see Hans Zimmer , Elfman and John Williams in the same table
The talent in this room is cosmic. What a treasure.
I smile throughout the whole interview,(a sick happy smile from ear to ear)... and I mean, how couldn't?
Best interview ever this guy should make the next year's actors and directors roundtable!
no doubt it will be the other guy, even tho there are literally hundreds of people that dont like the way he goes about it
Barney W you know this is the thing I don't understand. I mean he is not a bad host he really ask good questions but he is a total control freak never let guests make a good conversation with eachother he wants everyone to stick with his questions and probably he sees all of those bad comments but he didn't even attempt to change his attitude. I don't live in US I don't know are these things shown on TV but what will change if these were 10 minutes longer?
Danny Elfman... You are god.
Then hans is god who made god
The reason the directors of these films are among the elite best is they allow virtually complete freedom for the score composers to do what they do, and that dance is what makes everyone contributing exactly what they’re known for and why they’re so brilliant
Composers might be my favourite roundtable, the score affects the movie so much and seeing the musical geniuses behind these movies is just great.
"We're all just trying to extend our childhood." that just hit home so bad.
This was really nice, I haven't seen many interviews with composers, it's usually either the directors or the stars that are interviewed. It seemed like these guys were used to being in their own heads a lot, but they were all polite and elaborative in their responses. Great interview!
Being fans of movies scores as well as Nine Inch Nails, seeing Danny Elfman and Trent Reznor sitting side by side is so freaking cool. Plus it's nice to finally get to put a face to the name with Marco Beltrami. We loved his score for the Carrie remake, man that was good!
~ Jester and Sly
Fun Fact: Danny Elfman was the frontman of the band Oingo Boingo.
Hans Zimmer song mountains is really epic on my studio speakers. Marco Beltrami bible study from the film 3-10 to Yuma is wonderful. Danny Elfman Batman theme is the definitive theme(dark mysterious) Trent Reznor is really fits with the films David Fincher does. How To Train Your Dragon 2 was the best animated film this year.
Zimmer...and Reznor...must collaborate one day!
I don't really like how we didn't get to hear from everybody for some of the questions, especially the last one about what everybody listened to. I wanted to hear from Trent for that one.
Trent listens to all shitz. He also tries to keep up with new releases.
I like how easy it is to spot fans of his in the comments. We're all like "but TRENT didn't answer that one question, dammit!"
Jeez, these roundtables have been some of the best entertainment I've had for the past couple of days. And there's still more!
As a massive film music fan, seeing Hans Zimmer (my personal idol), John Powell (creator of the extraordinary HTTYD scores), Danny Elfman (SO many memorable scores), and Reznor and Beltrami, those two I don't know much about, at a table talking, I love this!
@22:27, Elfman perfectly articulates an issue I have and think about all the time. There is a very fine line in working on ideas and submitting them to directors. You don't want to show them an idea that isn't fully realized, as they may not like it as they don't understand the unfulfilled parts like you do, but you don't want to work on it too long and get attached and still have it be rejected.
I've watched this countless times and love it just the same, absolutely incredible. I would absolutely go crazy if you had Brian Reitzell on your next show. Composer of Hannibal and countless other shows. He's a genius and it would be so fascinating to hear what he has to say in this environment you've set up. Thank you again for this!
I absolutely LOVED watching this! I'm familiar with music from all of these composers and it's great to listen to them all talk about their work and craft.
What struck me most is when the interviewer asked whether or not they listen to movie scores for fun, and they emphatically said "no". Most of the music that I listen to comes from movie scores, which were composed by these guys and others. It's amazing that what I often crave most to listen to (stuff they've composed), they aren't interested in, at all.
I also completely agree with them that music is supposed to be noticed in movies. Often times, the music drives the sentimentality of the movie. Once the credits roll, and the movie is over, it's the music that long sticks in your head, and is a constant reminder of what you've experienced. That's one of the reasons I love scores so much. It's like being able to consistently experience the feel of the movie without having to actually watch the movie again.
It may be that many movie audience members don't spend a lot of time thinking about the music, which is probably why the interviewer figured it's not supposed to be noticed. However, when you think of a movie like "Conan the Barbarian" (The original), where music is played in nearly every scene, the movie would certainly be a completely different experience if it weren't for the music. It's clear that the score drives the story, yet the songs are able to stand alone without feeling as if they were written for specific movie scenes.
I love movie scores, and this was an excellent interview.
Really great interview. No egos, just respect and really great discussions
Zimmer gets hated on to no end, but he was probably the foremost reaslistic-sampled-orchestra composer going for years. His setup was unparallelled in the time of significant memory limitations.
He doesn't have classical training in music but he's made it work, and knows how to make great modern cues. That's one of the important things - making it sound right...
I think Elfman's orginal batman score is superior, but the fact is that it was already used, and the dark knight series was supposed to be more brooding and realistic, so Zimmer's theme fits.
The fact is that Zimmer brings a modern sound and is apparently the most accommodating composer to work with.
Rod Salka it's his copycats who canabilized his works, i only know few composers that are obviously inspired by him yet don't canabalized his style ( brian tyler, hiroyuki sawano and two steps from hell)
Danny Elfman and Hans Zimmer... I died. Twice.
I really would like to see John Williams on this gathering. I like this interviewer that let the composers actually speak their minds and not interupt.
How did I not know of this interview? Ugh, now wishing Trent and Hans would do a collab
What a great great GREAT interview meet up!! ❤️
Danny Elfman is the MAN
Nine Inch Nails and Oingo Boingo in the same room.
Pretty wild!
listening to these guys is inspiring
This was an excellent interview
Hans Zimmer and John Williams have created some of the most beautiful and instantly recognizable scores in film history.
This is so awesome, I'm really glad they interviewed the composers this time!
I loved this talk. This talk of a combination of some unique and some more similar composers. Keep doing them! I found it very interesting to hear what Trent and Hans had to say.
John powell is funny as hell lmfaooooo. love the guy
PapiDarko he has a reputation of a lovable jerk
some really awesome questions in this interview!
God I would love to be sitting at that table, just listening. Gonna watch the other Roundtables, I saw another with Thomas Newman in it
I totally agree with what Danny Elfman said about music not being just a background, unnoticed piece. if I don't feel the music or it doesn't draw me in-I don't bother looking for the composer's name. I think music should be sweeping and engaging, like a character in the story. this was very cool. I'd almost like to have a sit down with Danny Elfman and Trent Reznor on the finer points of writing rock music VS scoring. Danny and Trent are a good 10-15 years apart from Oingo Boingo and Nine Inch Nails, but they've come from that background into film music.
whats really interesting about this group is that its three composers who are primarily known for their work with a specific director i.e. Trent Reznor/David Fincher, Danny Elfman/Tim Burton, and Hans Zimmer/Christopher Nolan....I wonder how much the director is responsible for the quality of the score in some aspects
I would LOVE to see someone write a short maybe 20 min and have each of these artists write for it without uttering a word.. Give them the cut and write.. AND now that I riff on this, I thin kit would be GREAT to have like an "Iron Chef" scenario where they have a couple hours or so to write and finish a piece... Seems like fun... Hope someone reads this and will make it happen.
It's so nice to see so many artists at a table just talking. The questions were actually good, too.
Zimmer and Reznor & Ross made this year. Two best soundtracks I heard in a long time,
A wonderfully insightful and entertaining interview.
This is great, in the grand tradition of the masters these guys learned from and admired. I read somewhere that Alfred Newman---then head of music at 20th Century-Fox--- would call up contemporaries of his on a Friday morning---and get together for a couple of days raising steins and talking about film music or classical music. One could only wish they could be a fly on the wall and hear Newman, Steiner, Herrmann and Waxman wax philosophically about their music. These guys---particularly Zimmer and Elfman---are favorites of mine because they bring back the memories of past masters.
Hollywood Reporter, thank you for existing. I loved it. I love Hans, John and Danny. It was great to know the other composers as well.
I wish i could just site there and listen to them closely those composers are legend!
Really loved this chat !!! I would be listening to these guys for hours....
I would absolutely love to see one of these with trailer music composers. That would be really different. And then on top of that, one with movie composers AND trailer composers, and they discuss the differences in technique and all that jazz... or, epic.
This whole conversation just shows how much of a genius Hanz Zimmer is. Don't get me wrong everyone on here are genius but that man..........just shows his child is still intact and he's love the game of music.
i've been waiting for this for half a year now. i just came...
Damn! How come I didn't see this one for 9 years? My two all time favorites Zimmer and Reznor are there.
I will bet a lot of money that at 46:03 John Powell was talking about Giacomo Puccini, who wrote Madama Butterfly, La boheme, Tosca, and Turandot, four of the most performed operas of all time, making him a composer like Beethoven or Mozart whose last name is recognizable to many. "Pacini's work is largely forgotten today" - a quote from the Wikipedia article from which I suspect the editor found the picture. I would also bet that Hans Zimmer's children (47:50) have not changed their last name to Zimmerman.
The masters at one table. Fantastic!
Very well respected interview. Nobody cut of anyone and everyone got a lot o ime to express themelves