What Macken is saying is that both women AND men have a short window of mating opportunity because as they age, the opposite sex finds them less physically attractive. This makes evolutionary sense, as the reproductive advantage of both sexes diminishes as they age.
Women generally like tall men, but we also LOVE a short king (he’s short, funny, kind, ally to women). Women generally like muscular men, but we also LOVE a dad bod as long as he treats us with respect. Women have a million things we are vocally and secretly insecure about, we stick needles in our face once a month spend thousands on skin care and hair products etc etc, just to look our best… the stakes are so high,,, all we are asking for is empathy from gentleman allies. Xoxo
This dude is spot on. I have dabbled into researching this topic from a scientific perspective(so actually looking at published research or stats online) for the past year and he’s nailing it. These redpill dudes will paint false pictures based on half truths which makes men focus on the wrong aspects of dating, and make them resentful and distrusting of most women.
@@murphymackenYou are so young yet so goooooood and wise!! Loved this interview a lot compared to other big youtube channels you went on! Thank you!!!!
About the difference in what can be said... It's actually pretty simple- Gals determine what is appropriate/desirable (for both men and women to want), and Men are expected to follow it. So Men's wants are surfaced by reflection- a woman catering to a male base, or a gal with such a trait putting it forward as attractive. It can then get ratified by the group- the first defector problem. There's a mirror to this- the 'where do we eat' problem. In that everyone is more comfortable if a guy proposes it, then the group ratifies it. Same diff, only reversed.
Women generally have higher mating standards than men. Discerning. Qualities of a good partner. Kindness Communication Consistency Commitment Character Safety
@@sherriflemming3218 By mate, do you mean 'ally' or do you mean one night stand? If you look at the lit (on why pair bonds form within tribes- look to gibbons), you need an ally to help keep other women off your back- in order to feel safe having kids. So yeah, you totally need to find someone that other gals think highly of. That need seems to supersede what ya'll find hot. Qualities of a good partner lists are self fulfilling prophecies. Ultimately you need other women to approve of your use of your body. What qualities those are varies by situation. You just need enough status between the two of you to justify family. Men don't need to think about that. I'm not sure one is more discerning than another. Just different. The one night stand criteria is about the same regardless of gender. It's just harder for a girl to give in to what they want.
Horrific advice. And then you get to watch your first love leave you and marry someone else because you were too much of a wimp to seal the deal and keep her.
Do they day say that? Honestly most RP followers are struggling to date women in their 20s that’s literally what leads them to the RP so advice about “not settling down too young” seems misplaced. Men aren’t getting matches online, are getting rejected are scared to approach women IRL and looking for dating advice online but the RP is telling them ….not to get married young???😂 imagine being this off base
@@brudamo9203. Well then men need to hold the line and counter the grief. If women cannot handle men talking about their preferences then they need to work on themselves ..
I wish men were more vocal and upfront. The truth is, most guys would have sex even with women they are disgusted by or not at all attracted to and this confuses those women into thinking the guy likes them. As a woman, I'd prefer a guy SAY "I don't like black women etc" then to use me for sexual gratification and THEN say "sorry I don't like black women" It doesn't benefit men to be vocal because tbh men are usually willing to still engage physically with women they think are ugly they just won't take them seriously. I wish that would stop. It hurts
If you say you looks are more important personality then you're viewed shallow even though it's true. He explains mating in a nutshell with that one sentence.
How can he say that the Red-Pill guys are wrong with saying that a high bodycount leads to an inability to pair-bond.. if he himself 3 minutes before that said, that people (also men it seems) with a higher bodycount are more likely to cheat, divorce etc..???
It's called "moving the goal posts". They're changing the definition of 'pair bond'. In one definition they're emphasizing the verb nature of 'bond', in the other they're treating it as a noun. I.e., in the first example they claim that a woman forming lots of new relationships with new men shows that she's pair bonding by forming a new pair bond with each of these new men, which, of course is utter hogwash. The other definition, which makes more sense, is that when there is an 'extra pair coupling' (EPC), i.e., cheating, the pair bond is broken. To avoid this kind of semantic contortion, you should use the phrase "maintain/preserve the pair bond [against interlopers]."
It's not that a gal has the burden of being pregnant. It's that her choice to reproduce will be judged by every other girl. The pregnancy fills limited slots within the tribe, that could have been filled with one of her friends' kids. And they will judge her for it.
Good video but Idk about it being tough to be a woman in the dating scene. You know when it comes to dating it’s easier for a woman to find a mate than a man. You said it yourself woman in there 30s are doing fine what about the men. Plus men don’t care so much about age look at the tinder videos where there are grannies getting date.
Getting a date is different from getting into a relationship. Men will f anything so it's not a badge of honor for a woman to get matches on a dating app.
"It`s easier for women to find a mate than for men". This statement doesn`t make any sense. There is ONE woman starting a relationship with ONE man. The exact same moment a woman starts dating a man, one man who supposedly has it harder found a relationship with this woman. What you are maybe referring to is that it`s easier for an average woman to find a man who just wants to fuck her than for an average man to find an affair with an attractive woman, yes. But that`s affairs and one-night-stands, not "finding a mate".
having more options doesnt mean you have good options. if there was a guy who i thought was a good option for me, then i have no reason to refuse. but most who have approached me, i was just didnt see any reason to consider them. youre thinking about this too much like a men, because probably if you had the options i had, youll jump on them. i dont want 100 options, i just want one good option and settle down and thats it
Genuine desire of women to men is fleeting specially when her hypergamy is not fully satisfied, Hypergamy is also the ultimate reason why 50% of women will be single and childless by 2030
@@levismirnoff5450 women are choosing being single, and men aren't at the same rate. The number of men seeking women will be higher than those who aren't seeking anyone. If it doesn't pertain to you, then congrats. You've joined the team that has sat out being in relationships. That team will be bigger than the one who still is pursuing them. Can't break it down any further than that...
@@Pheyora I understand that, the point I am conveying is that this "how will group xyz seethe about by abnormal decision" is not the own you think it is. It is self-destructive.
Ohh boy... where to start with this one. First - toting "a real scientist" might work for those who are unfamiliar with how modern "science" works, especially in psychology, but the reality is this guy is simply pushing "his persepective". As a young, intelligent, tatooed guy in shape, I'm not surprised he has the beliefs he does. In short, he's wrong on several points and is mis-construing things. For example, that it's "easier" to date in you twenties. Using "old" data, from say, my generation (born in 77) will give you very false information. He makes many assumptions that are clearly debunked and not supported in real life. For example, that what women put on a study or answer is often much much different than what they actually DO. Women respond to a masculine man. His statement that women want a man that is physically attractive and closer to their age is true. You ask them on a survey, they will tell you this. YET, in reality, when they talk to this good looking guy their age they ARE NOT INTERESTED in him, once he opens his mouth. Why? He's lacks the other crucial qualities that many "red-pillers" talk about: being a leader (takes time to learn), building a empire (takes time and experience), etc. This guy simply takes a response from a study and fails to look any deeper. He's got quite a bit to learn and is suffering from his on confirmation bias. This is really another false attempt to discredit the Red Pill. Not that it matters much though... he'll learn the truth from life itself. Futher, he does confirm that this is the case "in the west"... hmm... I wonder why he just ignores other parts of the world or data that conflicts with the points he wishes to make: Why does he do this? Confirmation bias. The guy has lots of work to do to improve his "scientific" conclusions. Get back to work dude... you can do better.
Dude wtf he is on the money saying it’s hard for guy to date when they open their mouths it’s not hard to not being werido psychologist talk about this and modern youth not reaching regular milestones like in your early 20 be more social to build social awareness but now we have more young men stay in side not making friends IRL but it not hard girls are just as horny as men and 10x more shy they want you talk to them stop being weird don’t Blame women or gov it on you or say look deep he could have touched on it but not out of touch
@@nanomia most red pill followers don’t take the info with grain of salt, and believe everything goofies say online while most never leave the house, or to reject for being weird bumbling idiots that dress weird and smell funny
What Macken is saying is that both women AND men have a short window of mating opportunity because as they age, the opposite sex finds them less physically attractive. This makes evolutionary sense, as the reproductive advantage of both sexes diminishes as they age.
Women generally like tall men, but we also LOVE a short king (he’s short, funny, kind, ally to women). Women generally like muscular men, but we also LOVE a dad bod as long as he treats us with respect. Women have a million things we are vocally and secretly insecure about, we stick needles in our face once a month spend thousands on skin care and hair products etc etc, just to look our best… the stakes are so high,,, all we are asking for is empathy from gentleman allies. Xoxo
This dude is spot on. I have dabbled into researching this topic from a scientific perspective(so actually looking at published research or stats online) for the past year and he’s nailing it. These redpill dudes will paint false pictures based on half truths which makes men focus on the wrong aspects of dating, and make them resentful and distrusting of most women.
Don’t forget for literally no reason too, just for fictionalized reasons
This interview is GREAT!!!
Loved it!!
Thank you!!!!!
5 minutes in and im already loving it
Glad!:)
@@murphymackenYou are so young yet so goooooood and wise!!
Loved this interview a lot compared to other big youtube channels you went on!
Thank you!!!!
Incredible interview!
AMAZING EPISODE
About the difference in what can be said... It's actually pretty simple- Gals determine what is appropriate/desirable (for both men and women to want), and Men are expected to follow it.
So Men's wants are surfaced by reflection- a woman catering to a male base, or a gal with such a trait putting it forward as attractive. It can then get ratified by the group- the first defector problem.
There's a mirror to this- the 'where do we eat' problem. In that everyone is more comfortable if a guy proposes it, then the group ratifies it. Same diff, only reversed.
Women generally have higher mating standards than men. Discerning.
Qualities of a good partner.
Kindness
Communication
Consistency
Commitment
Character
Safety
@@sherriflemming3218 By mate, do you mean 'ally' or do you mean one night stand?
If you look at the lit (on why pair bonds form within tribes- look to gibbons), you need an ally to help keep other women off your back- in order to feel safe having kids.
So yeah, you totally need to find someone that other gals think highly of. That need seems to supersede what ya'll find hot.
Qualities of a good partner lists are self fulfilling prophecies. Ultimately you need other women to approve of your use of your body. What qualities those are varies by situation. You just need enough status between the two of you to justify family.
Men don't need to think about that. I'm not sure one is more discerning than another. Just different. The one night stand criteria is about the same regardless of gender. It's just harder for a girl to give in to what they want.
The RedPill guys don’t say you shouldn’t DATE in your 20.. just to not necessarily settle down (with the first best option) in that time
Horrific advice. And then you get to watch your first love leave you and marry someone else because you were too much of a wimp to seal the deal and keep her.
Do they day say that? Honestly most RP followers are struggling to date women in their 20s that’s literally what leads them to the RP so advice about “not settling down too young” seems misplaced. Men aren’t getting matches online, are getting rejected are scared to approach women IRL and looking for dating advice online but the RP is telling them ….not to get married young???😂 imagine being this off base
How is this guy saying men shouldn’t be as vocal as women when is comes to their preferences
Yeah, he lost me there.
I think perhaps it's not worth the grief.???
@@brudamo9203. Well then men need to hold the line and counter the grief. If women cannot handle men talking about their preferences then they need to work on themselves ..
I wish men were more vocal and upfront. The truth is, most guys would have sex even with women they are disgusted by or not at all attracted to and this confuses those women into thinking the guy likes them. As a woman, I'd prefer a guy SAY "I don't like black women etc" then to use me for sexual gratification and THEN say "sorry I don't like black women"
It doesn't benefit men to be vocal because tbh men are usually willing to still engage physically with women they think are ugly they just won't take them seriously. I wish that would stop. It hurts
Tom C only face the camera with his good side.
45:25 Is he serious? 😂
“Hookup at the company holiday party”
lol, this guy is trying to get you fired
I can see that could heppen although it’s against company policy. 😅
That host thinks men can just leave their children?
Can someone explain why us now having less sexual dimorphism than our ancestors indicates that selection favoured monogamy? 1:22:32
OMG because those with sexual dimorphism didn’t get chosen as reproductive mates
It's only an argument by correlation. We see in other animals that pair bonding and sexual dimorphism are anticorrelated.
Rollo has been married, 25 years +, know your facts...fresh and fit use terminology from him, no original content
Who are these "red pill guys"? Name names.
Rollo Tomassi, Michael Sartain, Fresh 'n' Fit, Donovan Sharpe, Rian Stone, Rich Cooper, for a start.
Corey Wayne
Those Red pill guys 🤔🤔
If you say you looks are more important personality then you're viewed shallow even though it's true. He explains mating in a nutshell with that one sentence.
Romance chemistry and attraction does not create relationship success
How can he say that the Red-Pill guys are wrong with saying that a high bodycount leads to an inability to pair-bond.. if he himself 3 minutes before that said, that people (also men it seems) with a higher bodycount are more likely to cheat, divorce etc..???
Men, less so, and women, especially so. So says the GSS.
It's called "moving the goal posts". They're changing the definition of 'pair bond'. In one definition they're emphasizing the verb nature of 'bond', in the other they're treating it as a noun. I.e., in the first example they claim that a woman forming lots of new relationships with new men shows that she's pair bonding by forming a new pair bond with each of these new men, which, of course is utter hogwash. The other definition, which makes more sense, is that when there is an 'extra pair coupling' (EPC), i.e., cheating, the pair bond is broken. To avoid this kind of semantic contortion, you should use the phrase "maintain/preserve the pair bond [against interlopers]."
Men cheat more than women.
Women are generally more discerning. Higher mating standards.
It's not that a gal has the burden of being pregnant. It's that her choice to reproduce will be judged by every other girl. The pregnancy fills limited slots within the tribe, that could have been filled with one of her friends' kids. And they will judge her for it.
Good video but Idk about it being tough to be a woman in the dating scene. You know when it comes to dating it’s easier for a woman to find a mate than a man. You said it yourself woman in there 30s are doing fine what about the men. Plus men don’t care so much about age look at the tinder videos where there are grannies getting date.
Getting a date is different from getting into a relationship. Men will f anything so it's not a badge of honor for a woman to get matches on a dating app.
"It`s easier for women to find a mate than for men". This statement doesn`t make any sense. There is ONE woman starting a relationship with ONE man. The exact same moment a woman starts dating a man, one man who supposedly has it harder found a relationship with this woman.
What you are maybe referring to is that it`s easier for an average woman to find a man who just wants to fuck her than for an average man to find an affair with an attractive woman, yes. But that`s affairs and one-night-stands, not "finding a mate".
And they have a smaller timeframe to get it all sorted
having more options doesnt mean you have good options. if there was a guy who i thought was a good option for me, then i have no reason to refuse. but most who have approached me, i was just didnt see any reason to consider them. youre thinking about this too much like a men, because probably if you had the options i had, youll jump on them.
i dont want 100 options, i just want one good option and settle down and thats it
@@rainbows5232 Nobody approaches men. So you have to find an option anf most women are not really up to even their own standards.
Blue Pill Podcast
Genuine desire of women to men is fleeting specially when her hypergamy is not fully satisfied, Hypergamy is also the ultimate reason why 50% of women will be single and childless by 2030
Maybe in your fantasy land
@@hazeljust7001 I mean I suspect it'll be by choice. More and More are choosing child free and single. Men will be so mad. 🤣
@@PheyoraWhy would I as a man be mad that you select yourself out? I am not even he same race. This makes no sense.
@@levismirnoff5450 women are choosing being single, and men aren't at the same rate. The number of men seeking women will be higher than those who aren't seeking anyone. If it doesn't pertain to you, then congrats. You've joined the team that has sat out being in relationships. That team will be bigger than the one who still is pursuing them. Can't break it down any further than that...
@@Pheyora I understand that, the point I am conveying is that this "how will group xyz seethe about by abnormal decision" is not the own you think it is. It is self-destructive.
1:00:22 he agrees with alpha f beta bucks. actually many studies agree with that
Ohh boy... where to start with this one. First - toting "a real scientist" might work for those who are unfamiliar with how modern "science" works, especially in psychology, but the reality is this guy is simply pushing "his persepective". As a young, intelligent, tatooed guy in shape, I'm not surprised he has the beliefs he does. In short, he's wrong on several points and is mis-construing things. For example, that it's "easier" to date in you twenties. Using "old" data, from say, my generation (born in 77) will give you very false information. He makes many assumptions that are clearly debunked and not supported in real life. For example, that what women put on a study or answer is often much much different than what they actually DO. Women respond to a masculine man. His statement that women want a man that is physically attractive and closer to their age is true. You ask them on a survey, they will tell you this. YET, in reality, when they talk to this good looking guy their age they ARE NOT INTERESTED in him, once he opens his mouth. Why? He's lacks the other crucial qualities that many "red-pillers" talk about: being a leader (takes time to learn), building a empire (takes time and experience), etc. This guy simply takes a response from a study and fails to look any deeper. He's got quite a bit to learn and is suffering from his on confirmation bias. This is really another false attempt to discredit the Red Pill. Not that it matters much though... he'll learn the truth from life itself. Futher, he does confirm that this is the case "in the west"... hmm... I wonder why he just ignores other parts of the world or data that conflicts with the points he wishes to make: Why does he do this? Confirmation bias. The guy has lots of work to do to improve his "scientific" conclusions. Get back to work dude... you can do better.
You sound like a fish that doesn’t know it’s in water.
The masculinity guru/redpill worldview isn’t a universal either
Dude wtf he is on the money saying it’s hard for guy to date when they open their mouths it’s not hard to not being werido psychologist talk about this and modern youth not reaching regular milestones like in your early 20 be more social to build social awareness but now we have more young men stay in side not making friends IRL but it not hard girls are just as horny as men and 10x more shy they want you talk to them stop being weird don’t Blame women or gov it on you or say look deep he could have touched on it but not out of touch
As a womann, you're wrong you need to re-evaluate your "beliefs" this guy get it so learn something or two from him.
@@nanomia most red pill followers don’t take the info with grain of salt, and believe everything goofies say online while most never leave the house, or to reject for being weird bumbling idiots that dress weird and smell funny
so ur rebuttal to his empirical evidence and research is, “well i haven’t seen it?” ☠️😭
Except Gay Men are not matting
Gay men and gay women