Catan Advanced Strategy - Wood/Brick SECRETS
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In the current heavy Ore Wheat Sheep meta, I go over a Catan advanced strategy concept when playing heavy wood and brick.
The Catan advanced strategy lessons can be summarized below.
1. Define and identify blocking settlements and triangle road settlements
2. Apply and use triangle road settlements and to create open spaces on the board to expand to
3. Apply and utilize blocking settlements by locking part of the board, especially in 4th position
I hope you learn something!
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Hey y'all, just wanted to clarify a few things.
At 3:13, 5:27, and 9:34 the 4/9/11 is neither a Triangle Road Settlement nor a Blocking settlement.
For a settlement to be a Triangle Road Settlement or a Blocking settlement it has to be on the outer ring, NOT touching the coast or the absolute center hex (11 wheat).
Anything that touches the absolute center hex is just a normal settlement.
Last note, I define Triangle Road Settlements and Blocking settlements as "coastal settlements." I regret doing this. Coastal settlements are on touching the coast.
I'd like to redefine them as settlements that DO NOT touch the coast or absolute center hex, along with everything else that makes them the type of settlement they are.
Sorry for the confusion if there was any!
Nice video! I like (and used before) this concept.
But I think one doesn't have to keep the definition for blocking settlements that narrow, it can widened for broader application. At 5:27 and 9:34 you would block more settlement spots when placing at the 9/10/11 than on the 4/9/11. So one can consider here the 9/10/11 as blocking settlement although touching the center ring. It becomes blocking settlement due to the placed triangle settlements at 5/8/10 and 3/4/6. Also, sometimes even settlements touching the central hex might be considered as triangle settlement (the 4/9/11 here would not be the best example though, since in all cases it's either unlikely or unnecessary to build the two settlements with only two additional roads + starting road from there).
I started watching this just before I was last place on a low OWS board. You helped me win again!
Very useful video. I have thought of most of this intuitively before, but not so explicitly or systematically. And Not with regards to picking my first settlement from position 1 or 2. I made another set of comments below. I hope they don't come off as critical. I just don't know that "Triangle Settlements" is a good descriptor, because all settlements form triangles with their roads. Maybe "Outward Pointing Peripheral Settlements"? (because the settlement's pattern of potential roads forms an outward pointing arrow; Peripheral, to distinguish from "center settlements" which point outward too.)
@@michaellee4276 Yea that hardest part with the video was giving it a proper name. I'm glad you could take something away from this!
@@DyLightedCatan I call it the shuriken because it looks like a 3 pointed throwing star, and it's just as deadly
Using squares as the icons for the *triangle* settlements seems like a missed opportunity... ;P
YES!! I realized that after I uploaded this and felt so dumb!!
lol!
I found this incredibly interesting. Table talk online is tough, so I'm glad to have one another strategic too in my toolbox.
I've been playing online only a couple weeks (just for goggles in person before that) and I have gone from winning maybe 1/6 to winning about half. I think your videos have really helped me. (I hear your voice in my head if lack of wheat is dragging me down.)
Hahaha. So glad I could help out! Good luck out there.
Another great strategy idea to try an implement. Yesterday I was trying your - "cut off the ore/wheat/sheep player from their easy settlements" strategy. They guy had a great starting position, but after I cut him off he got last and was literally complaining to other players that he had no where to expand to. Thanks for the videos!
For some reason I didn't catch this comment! Oops! I'm so glad you were able to counter OWS with my help! OWS is definitely a monster, but can turn into a dead player with the right counter strategy. Good job!
I love it when kids today discover old gems like settlers of catan.
It’s 100% a gem! I totally agree!
Is it an old gem? I had no idea. Board game cafes in my country have it as a top 3 pick, at least in the city I live. I assumed it was recently made or at least expanded upon.
I would love to see how those placement strategies are getting impacted for each dessert setup :)
Thanks! If enough people want this, then I'll make a video on it.
@@DyLightedCatan I would like this as well!
Yes i love dessert :)
@@DyLightedCatan I would love to learn about how to utilize the desert it would make an awesome video
I'd love to see each desert and dessert setup. Can't wait for a perfect execution of the banana split strategy 🏜️🍧🍰
Thanks for your videos. I am learning a lot. I did not realise that there is so much strategy in this game. I would love to see more about the placement on different desert maps.
I really appreciate your ability to grasp ideas and translate them so everybody can understand it. That's what makes this channel (along others like Treeckosaurus' or Neonate's) such a good learning material.
Thank you for putting the effort in editing and coming up with names for the strategies, sharing the knowledge instead of hogging it all for yourself, and keeping it fresh by making each video different than the last one.
Keep up the good work, and I hope to watch more of your videos (just don't burn yourself out, please).
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you leaving kind comments for me. There was once a time where I wanted to be the best in the world, but I feel like helping others become better is a more noble and realistic goal.
Thank you for caring. I do get burnt out from videos a lot which is why I take some breaks. I'll try my best not to!
It's great that you made a video like this. This is exactly how strategies, and even more significantly, metagames develop. By people making putting words on the ideas, and making the information discoverable to the community. Good stuff good stuff
Thank you! I always love reading your comments. That's what I hope to do with this game!
So glad you’re making videos again, you have helped me get so much better at this game. Thank you king
Thank you so much for your appreciation! I'll make sure to make more videos for you!
Dude, I remember you first videos which were good but the quality now is incredible. I learned the game with Neonates awesome videos and yours have helped me step up even more! Playing online now and it's crazy how many people could improve so much by watching just a few your and NN bids. Good to have you back!
Thanks! I appreciate it! I work really hard on these videos and spend hours and hours editing them to look good. I'd like to think I am the "next step" after people watch Neonate's videos. Thank you for watching!
Great video Dyl!
Getting into Catan for the first time and loving these videos man. Keep em coming!
Awesome! I'm so glad I could help. Good luck winning!
This was super clear and well explained!! I definitely learned something today, let's see if I can use it in my next game :)
Awwww what a sweetheart! Thank you Maria!
I didn t think about that till now. Awesome man!
Thanks! It's all about the creativity that advances the strategy in this game!
This was a really interesting video, thanks bro
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Great video! In my family the first player goes for the wood brick strategy :)
I learnt that your video creation skills have improved.
This video was DylLightful
Thank you Alan! That's so kind of you to say!
Awesome video. Great concept that I haven't seen much. Not sure everyone would view 1st player (Red) contesting (not racing) the 3/10/11 spot with road player (Grey) as "suicide" [7:29]. Red is already there with free road, gets all 4 settlement building materials naturally, is only really short on Lumber with a 3, and Grey gets no natural Grain. A lot, of course, will depend on who gets blocked, stolen from, who will trade, table talk, etc. but Red has good odds to win the spot.
Great point, I thought about this too and did take a note of it. There's just so much wheat on the board and I think there's a good chance that Gray can get a trade for wheat. I also think it also is very detrimental to red's game if they lose the race as the free road is extremely important. Losing roads and delaying yourself to the wheat port really hurts.
Really enjoying the deep theory videos, excellent contribution. Would love to see further discussion.
Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words!
Very interesting. I hadn't been thinking about placing blocking settlements to restrict other players choices so thanks for that. I usually go for triangle settlements (though I was calling them Star Settlements) as two completed triangles gives you a lot of options to get to 10 points. I will give blocking settlements more consideration in future.
Awesome! I'm so glad that you take something away from this video. I hope you implement this in your own game.
This is brilliant!! I call the triangle road settlements the shuriken strategy xD which I did notice as opening up spots, but not on the scale of the whole board or as a specific tactic for a wood/clay strategy! Unbelievable. I normally try to play shuriken if I'm going ore/wheat because it relies on less roads to expand. Congratulations on an awesome find.
Thanks! I definitely recommend triangle roads for the OWS setups! Looks like you've got that down.
Hi Dyllighted. This is shhhhhh. Would love a video where you explain how the desert impacts blocking settlements. Btw great video. Keep up the good work!
Hello! We’ll have to see! I think there’s a good chunk of people wanting it to happen so I might put that on the list.
Thank you for sharing
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Hello Rama! I do not speak Spanish but I put your comment in Google translate. I am so glad I could give you a new perspective and help you improve! Good luck!
i just used this in a league game and it worked :) in 4th pick i was able to leave 2 3 hex build spots and be the only one with brick lol
dude this is really interesting
Catan theory, I love it!
Thanks! It's super cool to think about!
your "blocking settlements" are ones that prevent a settlement from being placed on the innermost hex (by virtue of being one road away from a point on the center hex)
Yep!
This was amazing!! The idea of blocking other people off is interesting. I think in 7th Position the 5-6-11 is good because of the brick port being close to me. I would think I could get something off of player/bank trades, but maybe that's too luck-based.
Thank you! I really do think there's a lot more in playing defensively. It really hasn't been discussed before. I think the 5/6/11 is definitely good, but getting to the brick port is the hard part.
Exposing the secrets of Wood/Brick plays like a boss!
Thank you, Benjamin! There are many more secrets I'm going to expose... just wait!
I can't believe I searched for this.. It kind of feels like cheating lmao
I love this video, I learned so much. But there is one thing I don't understand. 1st position on 834 gets a road to start. They could build to the 3, 11, 10 with their road, and because 4th position does not have wheat and sheep, they might not win the settlement spot. What do you think?
Yesterday i bought catan on amazon and today yt home brought me here...
Hahah thanks for stopping by! This video is very advanced so some of it might not make sense 😅. However feel free to check out some of my other videos!
I notice that the triangle settlements are one road from the coast, and the blocking settlements are 2 roads from the coast. That would be another way to categorise them.
7th placement is would be on the 8,4,3 in the bottom left for sure, then 8th would be 6,5, 11 which kills the strategy in this particular situation, not only that it would allow first pick (red) to most likely take the 4, 9 ,11 which makes most likely a win for red.
Interesting pov
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out placing a road towards a coast in the aim of a 3 way round and settlement situation is the less risky of the options, otherwise you risk being blocked in by other player positions.
Hi DylLighted, i am from Chile, i started to watch your videos, and I improved from top 6000 to top 800 on Catan Universe in only one week, love you, I have always loved Catan, but i am seeing the game now from a more professional view. Thank you very much. My user is FcoHerrera.
Super cool! I’m so glad that my videos can help you out. I love hearing from people that see visible improvement with their gameplay :).
About to play catan with my uncle, who always wins almost every board game.
To maximize settlement spots, place settlements at even-number-road-intervals from the nearest 3-tile settlement. This could create 12 total 3-tile spots, six 2-tile spots and 27 total spots (the theoretical maximum). Filling up the 2nd ring of "Blocking settlements" gives you probably 18 total spots (six 3-tile spots). That means if the spots are split evenly, two players can't win with just settlements and cities. If you fill the 3rd ring of "Triangle settlements" at 3-road-intervals, you gum-up the board to get 21-24 total spots (nine 3-tile ). The difference in 18 spots and 27 spots is huge if you are playing an expansionist game. As such, any 3-tile settlement 3 roads away from the nearest 3-tile settlement can be a blocking settlement. Other odd number distances also, especially 9. But blocking settlements in the ring that you identify do the most damage.
I think of the board as 5 concentric rings of settlement spots. Calling spots "Triangle Settlements" isn't very descriptive, because all settlements form triangles with their roads Also these kind of settlements can gum up the game pretty bad if they are placed wrong too. The 1st ring is around the central tile. The 2nd ring is spots 1 road from the center tile. This is the ring of blocking settlements. The 3rd Ring is two roads from center tile(these are your triangle settlements). The fourth ring is the 12 two-tile coastal spots and the 5th, outer ring is 18 single tile spots. The 2nd, Blocking Ring is special because it can be filled to block the entire adjacent rings which make up all of the remaining 3 tile spots and create a board with as as few as 12 remaining legal spots (eighteen total). (the 4th ring when filled blocks the adjacent rings, but the 4th and 5th rings are less valuable and there are so many more spots here.) The maximized board with settlements 2-roads away from each other will follow a 1,3,2,3,1,3,2,3,1,3,2,3 circular pattern of three tile settlements (counting clockwise or counter-clockwise starting at the top or bottom) (the numbers correspond to the ring number).
Implications: As you say, If you want more expansionist possibilities, go in the 3rd ring. (for best results, go an even number of spaces from the nearest settlements). These positions work because they actively block the Blocking Settlements in the 2nd ring. Going in the 1st ring also works the same way, though you might get pinned in.
I haven’t thought on strategies likes this before, any website that gives similar thoughts or strategies to continue learning??
Not really. 90% of the online strategy guides are really outdated and bad. Your best bet to learn more is watching my videos along with Neonate's Catan videos.
I'd recommend starting out by watching Neonate's Catan videos then moving on to mine, as I assume most of my viewers have some prior knowledge of the game.
Keep on learning!
I wouldve totally gone for the 5,6,8 brick port strat 🤪🥴
I've been thinking about how the two most important victory point are your starting settlments. In your theoretical placements would 4th pick just lose if green competes (and wins) for the 5/6/11?
Oops! I missed this comment! I think 4th can still play but they are severely hurt. Never give up!
Wow!!! THat's so cool!!!
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Haha. Thanks
Dy, i have a suggestion for you. I am a new Catan player. You will make it much less confusing for me by being consistent with the numbers you call out in a row. Slmetimes you starts top, left right, sometimes left, right, top. And i am looking for the spor you call ojt, but you read out different everytime
Scary Wheat Port!
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Couldn't 7th position placing his road inward toward the 5/6/11? I think he'd have a good shot at getting there since grey doesn't have any wheat and he'd even have a decent chance at getting to the 6/9/desert before red since his road production is much better and he'd have a brick port by then. Grey desperately needs the wheat and i'm not sure if he'd be willing to risk going for the 5/6/11 first.
woah big brain time
i’m confused as to why coastal cities aren’t defined as settlements on the edges of the map?
what you think about the harbourmaster mode?
so block setlements will hurt a ore wheath player.
I only play the 4p base game as that’s the tournament standard. If I can recall correctly, harbormaster is the same thing just with harbor points. Everything said can be applied in this version.
I'm that player that goes "me have brick port, me only want brick" and ruin your prediction.
hi @DyLighted do u still play catan ?
Aren't there actually four different desert spots? I think that there are two different types of outer ring deserts. You can have the desert in the middle of a side(A), or on the corner of two sides(B). So the position #1 would be outer ring type B while the position in the three player tournament would be type A. I'm pretty new to the game so I could be missing something or it could be that the difference is irrelevant.
No no! That's a fantastic thing to point out. Honestly I never noticed it myself but this definitely changes a lot! I still haven't thought of it.
im kinda mad the triangle road settlement aint a triangle
Hahaha yea I should’ve done that!!!!
11 min 👌
You block settlement thats why its called blocking settlement because you block settlement. Mind blown 😳
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Hey! I admire your work man!!
Was playing one match right now, and won with no wood/bricks but instead 3 vp and largest army xD
I have added you on Catan Universe, would you accept me? My nickname is locoabreu
Keep up the great stuff!! I'm sure that your work helps A LOT anybody who gets interested in Catan.
Thanks for the kind comment! Great job on the win. Of course, I'll accept you. I really do hope I am helping people!
Lol appreciate the video I'm abouta clap my friends in Catan
Already watched all tactic videos in a week. Make new ones!
Awesome! I'm doing my best to make as many as possible!
Instead of triangle road, my friends and I call it the flux capacitor
Love it haha. Only physics people will get it though 😁
Started playing a little over month ago and just broke top 1000 on Catan universe 😁 (mostly because of this channel) played with the homie youngnaijah who I saw in one of your videos. @ThrowU10FeetIRL is my IGN if u ever tryna play one sometime
How do you play this game
XD I think you should watch some videos on the basic rules before watching this! This made me laugh haha
DylLighted - Catan I actually did and it’s pretty fun
Why isn’t the BLOCKing settlement denoted by a block, just nit picking, great content
Imagine thinking you can actually learn anything, watching this video. 😂
In the real world those placements wont happen as it depends on where the resources are. Planning for hypothetical situations is great, but you wont ever be in a position to use it consistently. Even more so as you have no control over where opponents place their settlements at start.
At higher level play placements like this happen a lot more often and you can predict where your opponents will pick as they are more fundamentally advanced. With weaker lower level players this won’t work as much as you said.
@@DyLightedCatan do you understand the word "consistently"? Read again what I wrote. Thanks for reply but I disagree.
if u so confidently say that no one will give sheep or brick or wood to other players. why would anybody give this wood brick player a wheet ?
I think you get way too analytical and don’t focus on the social aspect of the game and being someone that other players don’t mind losing to. Obviously this isn’t a thing when playing online but in a tournament situation i feel this is a crucial aspect of the game.
Of course! The social aspect of Catan is sooo important! I just haven't made any videos going over specific table talk, but I am going to go over it soon.
I've played in a countless amount of tournaments (and won a fair share of them) so I totally get what you're saying. Table talk is essential. It's just a bit more difficult to make a video over this.
Also, a lot of people's core strategy is flawed in general, which is why I make strategy videos!
Thanks for the comment and concern.
watch 1.5 speed
I have no idea what he's talking about