PLAYING PROS with INSANE STRATEGY (WWS)!? - Catan Strategy Analysis
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Today I play Catan pros who have won multiple tournaments. We all competed at the Catan USA National Championship in 2019 with Ian Dembsky (brown), winning the whole Catan Championship. We play on a low ore board where I am stuck in the 4th position and forced to go with a non-traditional settlement placement setup.
In this game, I provide multiple Catan strategy tips sprinkled throughout the video! However, there are 3 main strategy tips that this game showcases that are taught at the end of the video.
Catan Strategy Tip #1 - ___ __ and ___ Monopoly
This is essential when you are buying a lot of development cards as you have a higher chance at drawing the monopoly. Often intermediate or advanced players get stuck without having a good opportunity to play the monopoly card, but using Tip #1 can help you avoid this situation. Don’t wait for an opportunity - create one yourself!
Catan Strategy Tip #2 - Port Strategy? ___________ is key!
Whenever using a Port strategy in Catan, I find it essential you do this. Play with the strengths of the port strategy and understand it’s weaknesses! If you can implement Tip #2 effectively then you will have a much more successful win rate when playing port strategies!
Catan Strategy Tip #3 - _____ _____!
I say this over and over again, but it’s the NUMBER 1 MISTAKE intermediate to high-level Catan players make. It’s difficult to master, yet easy to grasp the concept. Master this Catan strategy tip and you will see leaps of improvement in your Catan game.
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Interactive quiz!
1) 2:20 - Where would you place your 2 settlements?
2) 13:34 - 10 Card Hand - What’s the play? Specify what you are using for the port!
3) 17:00 - 13 Card Hand - What’s the play?
4) 19:57 - 16 Card Hand - What’s the play?
5) 22:04 - 13 Card Hand + 2 Dev cards - What’s the play?
Feel free to answer them individually or make a big comment!
2:20 I would personally take the 4/8/10 and the 6/2.
Port strategy could be effective here due to the low ore, so you don’t have to do a ton of trades with brown. Point the 4/8/10 road right, so you can potentially get the 9 wood (pointing it down could also be an option here).
The 6/2 would be effective as it gets you both wheat, ore, a wood port which would be useful as you do have the 8 wood.
Edit: ok I’m dumb yea your setup is much better here since you can expand to the 12 anyway.
You were on the right track! It’s hard to get good resource diversity here so a port strategy is great!
13:34 I would port 3 woods for a city on the 5/10/9. You don’t have to worry about being blocked, since the 8 wood and the 6s are much more threatening. Dev cards aren’t worth it here since these ores are rare.
Edit: I forgot you had the 2:1 sheep port, whoops. Much better option.
17:00 I would port 6 wood for 2 ores and buy 2 dev cards. LR and LA are both a bit of a stretch unless you draw 2 knights here, so you’re searching for victory points and monos.
Getting a city on the 4/8/10 would make you look very threatening and would cause your 8 wood to be blocked.
^you could also get defensive knights.
The energy and pacing of this video are perfect. I can’t believe you covered a full game in under 25 minutes while also somehow finding time to cover all the key strategic decisions. You’re really hitting your stride and I can’t wait for the next one!
Thank you Christopher! I really appreciate it! It truly means a lot :)
I agree. Really well done.
the whole game only takes 30 if you set the turn timer to very fast lol
100%
He be like: nah, don't go for longest road, go path of least resistance! (largest army)
also him: LMAO, mind if i win with longest road?
I have to say, the quality of the editing and commentary has really increased since I started watching you. Definitely gonna stay subscribed and can't wait to see how big you will grow
Thank you Adriaan! I’ve been working on making my videos more professional looking/sounding so it’s easy for everyone to watch. This game was actually almost 2 hours long but I chopped it into 20 minutes!
@@DyLightedCatan Damm, smart thinking chopping it down. Just wondering, you talked about the importance of table talk before in your videos and you seemed to be in a voice chat with at least black if I remember correctly, why didn't you include it/mention it more? Was this because trading didn't play a huge role this game?
@@adriaan6788 Great question. All 4 of us were in voice chat and table talk certainly impacted the game a lot. I just can't fit everything into a short video sadly. I'll be posting a table talk game with Mr. Beast tomorrow though!
@@DyLightedCatan Would be nice if you could upload full games, raw footage with table-talk sometimes. As an addition to your normal videos.
@@DyLightedCatan is the mr beast with the 40 million subscribers?
Great stuff Dylighted! It’s not easy to make a living out of creating content, but at least know that your video made my day
Thank you! This comment made my day! It’s certainly not easy and it’s quite scary, but it’s the kind words people leave me that keep me going!
@@DyLightedCatan thank you, for creating. Its perfect to come home after a hard day and watch your videos. I really enjoy your style of videos
this is the first catan video i ever watched on youtube. loved to play the game with friends and my dad as a kid. this not only brought back very fond memories, but also introduced me into the competetive side of catan.
i love the way you break down the strategies and explain good and better options. the video is very well structured and felt very accessible even to a noob like me, that never considered advanced strategies before. i will definitly leave a like and subscribe, thank you for making my day by bringing old memories while also stimulating thought and waking interest with the interactive quiz challenges. i really enjoyed this, and i will be back for future videos.
i usually don't write long youtube comments like this, but looking at all the other comments on here, i feel like this is a wonderful, wholesome community, and you might apprechiate the feedback, seeing you interact a lot with the comments.
Thanks man! I really love reading these comments and it truly makes me happy. I’m glad I could bring you down memory lane!
Get yourself a boyfriend/girlfriend that talks about you the way DyLighted talks abou Hawkeye
Hawkeye doesn’t watch all my videos and this is my way of trying to get his attention 🤣🤣
Girlfriend.
I think he accidentally said "Hot guy" a few times.
I'm not really into Catan. I play it with friends and family once in a while, but for some reason I really enjoy the vids. Keep at it DyLighted!
Thank you! I am really trying to make my videos a lot more beginner friendly yet still have a lot of strategic depth. It makes me really happy that people can not like Catan but still enjoy my videos!
I've played Settlers of Catan since I was 8 years old, and i've always liked the game as a small fun game. But since I stumbled onto your channel, i've a newfound love for this amazing game
Amazing commentary, really see the effort here -- thank you for the video!
Thank you Nidhogg! I’m really glad you enjoyed it! :)
Thank you for the commentary and awesome edits. Excellent learning material 👍🏾
Thank you! I spent a load of time editing this game and I’m glad it paid off! I appreciate your kind words! Also, it truly makes me happy to see you enjoying my content!
Another great video, thank you for sharing. I won a very similar game recently and started with only wheat and sheep, and didn't even have expansions to anything but more wheat and sheep. The other players were joking and calling me the sheep herder. I got the sheep port and a 3/1 port and got some good trades since I had almost a complete monopoly on those resources. Very funny game and easy win.
the information you share is awesome! Next time I play with friends I will use those tipps ! 😁
Awesome video, always find myself refreshing your channel haha. Monopoly to longest road is a sick play
Thank you! I do my best to keep uploading as consistently as possible!
I really liked the format of this video. Fun to watch! Good balance of strategy and analyzing mistakes.
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll make sure to do more videos with this format! I appreciate your thoughts. I do my best to listen to what everyone has to say!
First time watching, honestly a better setup to teaching people how to get better at games than what ive seen previously. It feels like a setup to a masterclass on catan. I look forward to more vids.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the kind words! I’ll be making more content like this so make sure to subscribe :)
Good stuff as always DyLighted! Keep it up!
Thank you Nick! I appreciate the kind words 😁
For some reason I really enjoyed this even though I have no idea how to play settlers of Catan
crazy good content. as someone who did gaming content myself in the past i can only say big respect for your work! i can definitely see catan become meta on twitch if you played with the right people, just how it happened with chess
Thank you! That’s my hope!
Love your videos!!
Keep up your incredible work, your production quality is getting better and better.
Thanks so much! I'm doing my best on upgrading production quality!
Good job keep up the good work! :)
Your videos have been getting better and better.
Thank you Neutral good! It seems like the hard work is paying off! It takes me longer and longer every time to finish my next video 🤣
Good game, my friend :) I enjoyed the lessons quite a lot!
Thank you!! It always makes me smile when I see people learning :)
I would personally apologize since I watch so much of your stuff and just realize I have not hit the subscribe button sooner. Great content keep going
I’m still just a casual player but I really enjoy the editing and format of your vids. Keep up the great work dylighted!
Thank you Wallbeast! I’m trying to make my videos a lot easier to digest for everyone and I’m so glad it’s paying off! Thank you!
Best video yet in my opinion, awesome production and strategy!
Thanks Quinn! I worked really hard on this one so it seems like it’s paying off!
Nice video and great tips! Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Also thank you for hosting tournaments! I'll be entering soon :)
Great video dyl! I did not think you would be able to survive or even expand on 3 resources but some lucky rolls and trades really helped snowball that game! Keep up the good content man!
Thanks! One of the reasons why I was successful is because not that many people expect a strategy with only 3 resources to do well. It looks crappy, yet has a lot of potential.
Wow!! Awesome tips. Thanks :)
First video of you I ever saw because somehow you managed to pop into recommended. The quality of the editing and explanation was really good, I'm definitely staying!
Thanks!!! I hope you subscribe:)
Congratulations on the win🎉
Love the video Dylan! And it turns out you're a great wingman for Hawkeye as well :)
Hahaha he’s definitely the sexiest man alive 🤣🤣.
just found ur channel, great content, thank u, greetings from germany
Great vid!
You just earned yourself a new subscriber! Great stuff man 👍
Thank you! Hope to see you around!
this was incredible. Very informative without being boring. You got a new sub my guy!
Thank you Yoseb! I look forward to seeing you in the comments again 😄!
@@DyLightedCatan Just tried this strategy in my last game, and it worked out great! Thanks man
Your commentary was consistently engaging. Keep up the awesome work!
Thank you! I try my best to keep my viewers engaged :). Glad I was able to do the same.
wow I love watching your videos! they are the only ones that I don't watch at 2x speed because every word you say is important!! I am only a beginner so your tips are amazing for me!
very good video, keep it up. I’m trying to learn to consistently win against friends and fam
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks man I was looking for free online catan a while ago and didn't find any, good to know it exists.
Of course! No problem man!
i love this channel
Thank you ❤️
Zombies Chucky out here watching Catan videos??
This is a great channel! Check out our latest Shaolin Soccer vid
You should upload instead of commenting
Humble in victory and defeat. Amazing how much you learn even from the wins!
Great video. Great plays.
Thank you Jochen! I appreciate it a lot!
DyLighted I love all of your videos - sometimes watching them 2 or 3 times :) All my credit goes to you for your help at beating my family with OWS 😂 Love your videos keep up the good work man
Well played, Bravo!
Thank you 😁!
Beautiful gameplay. That monopoly was clutch
Thanks for the video
You literally should ask people to like and subscribe your channel deserves it
Thank you! I try my best to only ask for for likes/subscribers whenever I feel like I deserve them. I told myself I don’t want to be one of those TH-camrs that’ll say “Smash that like button!!” 5 times in a row 😆.
Loved this video!
Thank you Thomas! I love your kind words!
nice vid again!
great stuff, great tips
Thank you Zak!
Awesome stuff!!
Thank you!
Sick content!!
Thanks!
Good analysis of why cities first for port strategy is important.
I recently won a Catan universe game just like this tracking brick and playing a mono to build four roads to get LR and win the game. I don’t think anyone saw it coming and I was happy to emulate my Catan idol Dylan! Awesome vid!
Well done! It’s always the best to pull out a sneaky with the monopoly card!
Crazy game, great stuff!
Thank you Haj! The words of encouragement are always great to hear!
Why do I keep watching these, I don't even play this game
Haha, I guess they are entertaining enough even for the people who don’t play the game 😁
Great Stuff! I've been watching your videos for a while now and have become a much better catan player. My win percentage is now close to 40% and I'm hoping to enroll in a tournament soon.
Well done! 40% is amazing! I’m sure you’ll do well in a tournament!
Overall amazing content! I love the tips and the way you describe the game. Take your subscription and continue to grow and improve! :)
Thank you so much! I'm going to be doing my best for sure!
Great game, I'm learning a lot!
Thanks! I no one has ever really talked about how to optimize a port strategy, so I figured this would be a great game to cover it!
I have never played catan, nor do I uderstand the rules, but for some reason I really enjoy your videos, good job!
Awesome! I guess my videos are engaging enough even for a non Catan player! Thanks for the feedback!
Good Video! Keep it up
Thank you! I’ll do my best!
I would love to play with you some time! I qualified for the national tournament via state tournament two years in a row and had the pleasure of playing against Ian in the latter round. Keep of the good work!
Oh my god this was amazing!
Thank you :)
Great game, well played
Thank you Andre! I appreciate it!
Thanks for these wonderful videos! I have always enjoyed playing catan with my friends but only started playing colonist after watching your video! It makes it much easier and convenient to play catan, not having to coordinate a big gathering each time!
Your videos are very vaulable as you give reasoning behind why you think it is a good move or not.
I have recently played some strategy that focuses on port, and like you say, to maximize the gain of this strategy, I prioritised getting city first before developmental cards. But that attracted the robber alot more. I noticed that even though you said to prioritise getting city first for port strategy, you actually didn't go for it immediately, but got settlement on a port first, and waited until your opponents got their cities up (not sure if you waited for it or they just managed to get it before you), but I wanted to ask would you wait for ppl to get cities first to look less scary with your own city, or just stuff it and go for city and risk getting blocked?
Good luck out there
Thank you!
Delighted thank you for the video
Thank you for always commenting Calvin! I appreciate it!
Loved the pacing of the video. Love that you finished a game in under 25 minutes and still had time for education and tips along the way. :) Especially loved the setting up for the mono tip - I will be paying way more attention to that. Do you have any tracking tips?
My latest video has a lot of tracking tips! Check it out :)
Doing any strategy on colonist is like saying it's Christmas every day ans you will always get your wishes.
Colonist is truly a arcade version of catan with it's resource and dice layout. It's literally geared for ACTION . Like all poker games with their sit n GOs and tournaments
Nice Catan video
I really love ur vids
Thank you! I do my best!
I remember once when I was playing with three other people, we had done this on complete accident but three of us had confined one person to a tiny space on a part of the map. We had roads built in such a way that they couldn’t go past or build anymore settlements. They turned them all into cities and didn’t have enough points to win. Their game was pretty much over around 1/3 into the actual game.
i swear dylighted and hawkeyes imaginary relationship is great
Hahahah yessss 🤣. So Hawkeye doesn’t watch my videos and I told him “I called you the hottest man alive somewhere in the video” so then he has to watch it.
Great content been watching it for awhile didn’t realize I haven’t subbed yet. I love catan and you are also just a great content creator I’d love to see you post other things aswell (as long as u don’t stop posting catan) I don’t know what your into but I think you could really grow if you started to do stuff with a larger audience aswell
Thank you Benjamin! That really means a lot. One of my inspirations is a TH-camr named Disguised Toast. He originally started with a game called Hearthstone and everyone grew to a variety streamer. I think I’m going to do a similar approach and first grow an audience with Catan content, and perhaps once I have a large enough following I’ll try out some other games. For the most part though, I’m going to stick with Catan!
16:56 i think that going for dev cards is stronger in that case, as that 10 is contantly being blocked, so yes you want to improve your income but dont forget that you loses 4 sheep when that 10 is rolled, That amonth of sheep can help you keep buying more dev cards to ensure that the 10 wont be blocked and going for the largest army ( no one is targetting the largest army at that point so it is easy to take). Building a city at that part of the game increases the 10 production to 5 sheeps, that only targetting it more and it is blocked most of the time. The more wood production is not useful. The only good thing in this move is the city on the 4 sheep.
Bruh this game was nasty! please upload more strategy videos like this. my friends dont understand why they keep losing to me all of the sudden. lol
Thank you! Nice job beating your friends hahaha! I’m glad to see that these videos are helping you!
my friends aren't gonna know what hit them when we play on colonist next time. These tips are on point. I was aware of a lot of the strategy, but some key breakdowns can change the way we think about our turns.
cool Video...instructive :)
Holy crap im one of youre longest staying subscriber. Im so proud of you already 200 comments👍
Thanks! I think I remember from the very beginning! I appreciate the continued support!
gg and nice editing
Thank you Mike! I put a TON of time into editing and animating this one so I’m glad it’s paying off!
great content
Thank you Walker!
You have me thinking of getting into catan competitively
Do it! It’s a bunch of fun
(Prediction before watching the rest of the video): As 4th player, I would take the 6/5/11 and the 8/4/port. Reason: it's good production, you can get ore through the port, but more importantly, for an ore-poor game, you've got a good position to expand, being in the middle of a lot of open space. It's unlikely anyone will take the 6/11/12 or the 5/9/12, because everybody already has wood (though brown will very likely take the 5/9/10). Red might go for 6/11/12, but will more likely take 8/4/10 and take the wood and sheep ports.
Edit: with a port strategy, I'd choose a city over the two development cards in order to boost production. I'd trade the wood because it's more plentiful and there's not a lot of roads you can still build.
For the third decision point, I'd get two development cards. Your production is decent, but you get blocked a lot. More development cards will hopefully mean knights and more control over the robber. Also, nobody has a lot of dev cards yet, so you have a good chance of getting the most knights. City is not a bad choice either; more production for your ports. Roads are unimportant; you can only go to the 9, and the longest road will be hard to compete for against black. Let brown do that.
4th decision: buy 3 development cards. Same reason.
5th decision: a brick monopoly can get you all the way to the 9/2 point, giving you the longest road with the potential to keep it, and access to new points. Maybe there's something to building more villages after all!
(I didn't see that you had a victory card in your hand and could already win that way.)
2:26 In 4th position I would take 9 5 10 (road pointed right), then 6 11 12 (road pointed up). This takes the free road and tries to trade upward, settling the 4 11 brick, better matching wood production. Ideally double up on 12 ore also
Okay, I'm paused. I'd place on the 8-4-10 first and point my road downwards to the sheep port. Then the 5-9-10 and point the road downwards as well. This sets you up nicely for longest road. I could see the argument to place the second road facing to the right towards the ore. But the first settlement priority will be the sheep port, so by the time you build that, there's a decent chance someone else would be threatening that spot. This positioning gives you a the max resources possible (dice-wise) on the board, which is great once you get both ports you're going for. The hope would be that you're underestimated because of your lack of ore, and ignored (or better, helped) while you get those initial settlements set up.
Well done!
At 22:04 I'd call monopoly on the brick and build five roads up, cutting off brown and taking longest road pretty securely.
I would place 8,4 with road pointing bottom right and 8,4,10 with road pointing down. The strengths of this setup are you have coordinated wood brick on an 8 and instant 3:1 port. you also have a fantastic sheep port once you build on it and mid game you can also build round to the brick port and the 4,11 brick.
The first weakness is you obviously don't have wheat which is not ideal but there is lots of wheat income so you should be fine to trade for it. The second main weakness is you are very easily blockable on the 8 wood until you can port your sheep.
Well said! I decided to not go with this setup as for the weaknesses you already highlighted! I typically don’t like going wheatless but you’re right - I think you could get a lot of wheat trades. Thanks for commenting!
@Zoe Lang that's actually the last thing I look at. It's true it would be feast and famine however much more important things to think about when placing (in order of importance) are: what are the rare resources on the board, what outs do you have when placing to get diverse income, are there any good ports you can secure, overall what is your expansion strategy to win (do your expansion spots actually help your setup). Feast and famine numbers are very low priority, it's just as likely that the number on your wheat or ore doesn't roll much which can screw your game just as well as non diverse numbers.
Not only that the wheet is super strong, it also that without so much ore in a game like this the wheet looses his value. I probably would have gone with the same choices as you ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
Answering your 2:20 question about 4th player placements. This one was relatively easy for me. So, ORE is irrelevant in the decision making. No point going for 3/11 and having a 2 or a 12 as an ORE source is pretty much pointless. So my play as 4th is to cover the other four resources as good as I can and use a port to get my ore. So my first dwelling goes on the 8/4 BRICK with the 3:1 port. People will be targeting the 8 BRICK but with the 4 BRICK I still have a source, whereas black will not have. My road points to the 4/11 BRICK a spot that I doubt red will take and certainly not the others. My second dwelling goes on the 5/9/10 giving me good resources. Overall I have 4/5/8/9/10 i.e. excellent production for use with my 3:1 port. I point my road for the second dwelling to the right, aiming for the 9/12 Ore port. I'm aiming to get more wood to match my bricks supply and to get the odd random Ore.
Great thoughts and detailed explanation. I thought about this setup but decided not to take to due to giving my opponents a lot of space.
I've played maybe 3 games and that was 4 years ago but for some reason I can't get enough of these games. Even though I have no clue what's happening
I don't know what to watch.
YT algorithm; I got you, fam.
I have never heard of this game in my entire life and yet I just watched through the whole video
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well it's just a game that literally resurrected the whole world board game industry.
nothing special
One time at bandcamp.
Thx for the video.
Good video
My 2 placements - 8/4 brick 3:1 port, road pointing SE and 8wood 4/10 sheep pointing south toward the sheep port. Plenty of wheat out there you can trade for a little, and it allows you a good 2:1 with a 3:1 start.
The first settlement on the 4, 8 brick. The second on the 5, 9, 10. On the 5,9,10 placement, I build my road towards the brick port.
That certainly works! But I think it leaves too much space for opponents.
Nice!
Neat just learned how to play a game i never heard about by watching the video lol.
Before seeing the answer: 4-8-10 down, 5-9-10 down. My philosophy is when in doubt go for the high production. The plan is simple: third town make it the sheep port. For the fourth city, try to grab 4-5-11 if it's still available, otherwise the 3-8 or the 3:1 port. Trading sheep for ore, try also to quickly city up the first two towns.
EDIT: After seeing the response: The reason I chose down is that I care more about the 9 wood spot, than a 9-12 ore port which won't be of much use with almost no ore and for which I'll likely have to race others and be unlikely to win, because my top priority initially will be the sheep port.
Well said! I think you’re right on that my road probably should’ve been pointed down, as the 12 ore isn’t statistically likely to go off that much! The race just gets me blocked early!
Second question: Definitely use two sheep to city up on the 5-9-10. Having double wheat is a huge advantage (as well as double or better yet triple ore) as it drastically reduces the number of turns needed for the next city. The next goal is of course citying up the 4-8-10. (I personally call this the Athenian model, named after the fact that Athens was far larger and more powerful than its port city of Piraeus)
My reasons for keeping wood are a bit different. I prefer the production strategy over OWS or LR, and in it wood and brick are inherently important as they allow quick expansion to new towns.
Third question: City on 4-8-10. No question. You have a chance, take it. You can always buy a dev card later to ward off robbers, but in this set up it's difficult to build a city without risking robbery or being 7ed out.
Fourth question: In general I prefer to go on a dev card rampage when I'm at at least 7 points, preferably 8, though undoubtedly buying dev cards earlier paid off in this case. I don't consider the 2-card a waste, unless I'm producing everything equally, which is definitely not the case here. I'd have built the sheep port city or the 9 forest town here and only then bought dev cards.
Final question: obviously, brick monopoly.
I'd go 8-4-10 and 10-5-9. It gets me a lot of sheep and wood, a decent amount of wheat, and a good chance of getting a sheep and 3:1 port. Brown and Red will likely lock Black out of wood and sheep, so I can count on Black as a trading partner for brick, at least early on. I'll focus on building settlements on the coast, dominate the juicy wood hexes, and use ports for ore with my sheep and wood abundance.
Well said! It’s looks like a weird setup at first, but when you think about it, it’s actually quite strong! Great job identifying the setup’s strengths!