I am a certified master watchmaker for 43 years now. I have watched several chainsaw sharpening videos. This to me is the best precision sharpening tool that I have ever seen for chainsaw sharpening. You not only have precision but consistency, with simplicity and full visual of what you are doing. I like the fact that the milling is a slow graduated mill to produce a smooth and sharp cut. The consistency of cutting will take off minimal amount of material. Giving me longer use of my chains. This is the truth. I stopped at Ace hardware tonight after work and looked at the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpener. It looks good, but it still is up to the person doing the sharpening. I told the man at Ace. I know what it’s like sharpening my set of small screwdrivers. The precision makes the difference. Then I come home and see this video. Wow ! You can’t make a mistake. This is the one !
I've had mine for a couple years. I love it. I replaced all my chains and stated using this sharpener to keep them consistent. No complaints Makes sharpening in the field so much easier.
I know this is an older video but what can I say, I'm slow to view. I have been heating with wood and cutting, feling trees for more than a decade now. Sharpening has always been my biggest adversary. Trying free-hand filing to several different file guide systems and even my own home made guides. I currently use the Stihl file all for ease of operation. But still it is keeping the continuous angle " the important part" that has always been my nemesis . The new to me guide you are using in this video is quite astonishing and Very accurate. I have not seen this tool before but it is quite amazing. Although out of my price range I would surely have one of these devices. It was hard enough to spend what I did on the Stihl file all. You have done a great video on this product and convinced me to purchase one when the funds become available . Until then. I'm stuck on Stihl. 5/16 .325
@@rnj1223a Advice , chainsaws are unforgiving , number one rule , when your saw is not being used Put your Chain Guard ON ! number two always have chainsaw gloves on every time you touch your baby, get it wrong and someone will have a big problem ! NEVER drop start your Saw ? There are only two ways to start your Saw ? Grip the between your knees ,or flat on ground with foot on pad in Handel ... Get someone to show you , if they say we don't do that ? .. say thanks and walk away !! And get professional advice and training , always remember , you must never say , l should have listened ? NEVER LOOK DOWN SAW BAR whilst Cutting .. If the chain hits metal in tree , old nail or barbwire , ... it will bounce the saw back on you , not good ? If you live you will have a big scar and babble like a baby ? ..
Comparison time: Timberland Sharpener vs. Stihl All-in-One File vs. professionally sharpened on a grinder vs. brand new chain. How long does each edge last? Which is best in a field kit? How long does each one take (including setup)? How much attention do you have to pay to depth gauge on the chain?
Depth guides are CRITICAL to cut performance and must be matched to each tooth. This is why Stihl tool is best for amateur user. Or the tool shown here plus a second step, depth guides using file guide. Hand filing by a professional (not Wranglestar) is best of all for performance. But you need to be filing between tanks all day, keeping in exact touch with your chain and depth guides by feel. You need to perform hundreds or thousands of sharpens whilst getting paid per tree to get to this level. I use hand filing or bench grinder, although my grinder is set up with non typical CBN grinding wheels which grind quicker and more importantly cooler than normal aluminium oxide wheels. Typically a shop or an impatient operator will overheat the chain teeth when using a chain grinder. Not ideal for multiple reasons but OK to some if carying spare chain and grinding regularly at home. Best luck. Find worst tooth and clean both cutting edges, top plate and gullet (hook) to witness marks. Concentrate on evenness and every tooth the same.
I winced when you ran across that rock! lol. I've hand sharpened my whole life with fair results. I like how consistent this tool is. It's like having a new chain every time. Sign me up!
I sharpen all my saws by hand. My friend just bought the Stihl 2 into 1 angled sharpener and he says it is better than the somewhat more complicated Timberline one. Coming from an old timer, using just a rat tail file, I'd love an opportunity to "one up" my buddy, the next time we go cutting. Great video on the Timberline sharpener.!
Elmer Fudpucker well, that’s exactly the point! Simple enough for us E.C.’s, but those W.C. guys need their mamma to show them how to sharpen their saws right. 💪
He probably put that in there on purpose so that the East Coast guys wouldn’t feel so bad for making some of the mistakes they might make. But then they get cocky. LOL
Looks like a very accurate sharpener and not having to turn it around to sharpen other direction is a real time saver. I like your videos. I'm so sorry for your loss of your father. Keith
Loved the information you always provide. I have been running chainsaws since I was 16 years old cutting hardwoods in mountains cutting firewood and pulpwood and no matter how careful you are you are going to touch a ROCK so there you are with your file trying to put a edge back on . I have always tried to use a file guide of some sort but I will always sharpen one side more than the other one not that it cuts a circle but one side will have shorter teeth. I would really love to have one of those as my eye sight is not as good as it was these would be very helpful. Thanks for all the good videos and may GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
you still have to buy a depth guage and do it by hand, hence why this sharpener stays in the shed and i take my Stihl 2 in 1 with me everywhere instead
Way to go Wranglerstar seems like they're taking chain sharpening up a notch with class. I would love to have one and since I'm from the "East Coast, I promise to read the instructions first ;)
Recently my wife bought me a STLE chain saw and I came across your video on this tool you were using that I really liked. I sure would like to get my hands on one of them. PS I also loved the scripture at the end of the video very encouraging. Dave
Yes been looking for a system like that! I have MS and have difficulty with fine motor control. I wish I had seen this before I bought my Stihl multi-file sharpener. However that mentioned I don't see that it reduces the rakers, the part of the chain that controls the depth of cut which you need to file as you sharpen the tooth.
Am thinking of perhaps using this for a few sharpenings then either the Stihl multi-file or have the shop do it to bring the depth in line, repeat, etc... with the objective of choosing a mid cost between hand filing and shop fees or an electric motor unit. Also, interested in time efficiency. Given that I'm not a skilled hand filer, does this make sense?
My great grandfather was one of the last old growth hand “choppers” , my dad cut old growth too (32 foot on the stump redwood was his biggest ) and man my dad can sharpen a chain, I suck at it lol
I recently purchased my first chainsaw and need help using/maintaining it. Of course, within the first use the chain is need of sharpening as there was a bit of dirt with the roots the stump I had pulled out and was cutting to discard. I was searching youtube on how best to sharpen the chain with best tool and technic. It looks like with this Timberline tool even a novice chainsaw man like myself cannot screw things up. Although, it is pricey but I think it will make up for with easier working ability. Thank you so much for sharing. Also, clicked and subscribed for future educational videos. I still need help. 😁 Keep up the good work and God bless you all.🙏
I have never seen anything like this. I never had any luck with hand filing a chainsaw chain. This tool looks like a wondrous gamechanger. And I really like the fact of saving money of taking my chain to the local shore for sharpening ( $25.00 CAN ). And being out of work I need to save as much as I can. Tight budget. Thank you very much if I'm selected.
This is a must have for anyone using a chainsaw. it looks to be fairly simple to use,and looks to be a quality tool. I have been viewing different videos about this tool and they all are praising this tool.I will obtain one soon!
@Patrol Adventures Australia Yeah but over $250 not worth it, the stihl ones are better as they file down the depth gauge at the same time, this doesn't so you need to run around the chain and file them after using this, 2 steps forward 1 step back
Being fairly new with chainsaws, sharpening the chain is something I been researching alot here lately, wanting to be able to be consistent with sharpening the chain and to the best possible way i see that I've found the tool for the job. Hope to have the opportunity to work with it.
Love video very helpful, can I buy direct from timberline could you send me the link , I don't want to go to Amazon as their seems to be a lot of counterfeits.sean in Ireland.
I have used several different chain sharpners over the years but have never run across this one,this is the best looking one ìve seen,guess I will have to try one,great video.
Looks like an interesting quality sharpening tool. I've been hand sharpening for fifty years so I'm stubborn when it comes to using a device. In my early days, I did use a gig every other sharpening to keep the proper angle and like most things in life, the more you do the better you get at it. Over the years, I found that many people don't understand that the rakers control how much wood the cutters take and some never even file them down. Some take the rakers way down and a jumping saw is dangerous for most sawyers to handle. Some file off too much cutter on one side so the saw cuts in circles. I always sharpen my weak side first or take more licks on weak side than my strong arm side. A lot of choppers file chisel chain too deep in the gullet instead of the top of cutter. Making sure the leading edge is sharp is important and once you dull the leading edge your performance drops because that's the first part of the cutter that touches the wood. This is my first chainsaw clip of yours that I've watched so I'm sure your other chainsaw videos explain all this. Be Safe!
Bought one and used it for about a year. Did not like it was awkward and did not seem to get it as sharp as I would like. I ended up getting the Pferd 2n1 system and am happy with that.
Wood-n-Yard Junkie yeah this seem a bit excessive for what it does. Those 2 in 1s are great because they do both teeth and rakers at once. It only takes a few minutes to go around an entire chain with no effort.
@@KingdomOfApple yes speed and efficiency is what I'm looking for. The only thing I do is take out the file for the rakers and use it only every 3rd sharpening. I find it takes the rakers down a tic too much. Makes the saw grabby in wood.
I need all the help I can get . I am just a old farmer just trying to make life a little easier.this wood make life a lot better for a old man. Thanks and God bless you for all you do.
I bought one of these a few years ago (2013) when I was falling timber in Northern Maine. It works OK but still isn't nearly as good as hand filing if you know what you're doing. The "indexing" pawls wear out as they were made of soft aluminum on the model I bought. I had spoken with the designing engineer to make some changes for improvement to the pawls and don't ever know if any changes were made. In the end, this is a good product for those who aren't good at filing by hand
That’s awesome. I work repairing tools part time and people also come and ask if we sharpen blades. I could recommend this product! Leo G (east coast) lol
Just started with an ego 18" learning each step. Been looking at videos to learn. This would help start me on a great path if I could get one. Great Video ! !
My Uncle and Cousin, were "East Coast Men", who were "Lumberjacks, for close to 50 years for my Uncle and 45, for my cousin. Professional lumber men. They had to use files, in all of those years, not to mention repairing their own saws.
This is the THIRD "Best Chainsaw Sharpener" I have bought because of this channel....The Granberg, the Stihl and now this one. My wife hates you! Lol.....
That looks like an amazing sharpener. I could really use one of those I am starting small engine repair on the side and have about 20 chainsaws to sharpen.
I've been watching Dad sharpen chains for years,and struggle. Wow! Is all I can say. I'd love to get one for my 80 year old,still cutting his wood 👨Dad
So much faster than the timberline. And the stones are so much cheaper. I have one as well. I wouldn't use anything else. I can sharpen a whole 25inch chain in less than 5 min
Its worth every penny Is cheaper and faster than hand files per chain sharpening after the initial purchase And takes off way less material than a grinder style sharpener so you get several more sharpens on a chain making you save money by not having to buy chains as often
Chris Nash typically this is a great way to get your saw sharp quickly. The rakers are commonly taken down as needed every few times you sharpen. A good sign that the rakers need work is the saw, even though sharp, has difficulty getting through the wood. Just means that the tooth is too low to get a bite.
Really though every 3rd sharpen just take 1 swipe off the rakers If chains is sharp and your making powder and dust take off more you want to be throwing chips and small slivers
I'd like one. You should review those "automatic self sharpening" tools where you attach to the end, press the stone in and run the blade. Seems much easier if it actually works. See "oregon powersharp". Thanks.
the Oregon powersharp chains are a totally different design. Thats why they can be sharpened that way and thats why the chains are $30-40. I have the CS1500 electric powersharp and it works well as long as you are VERY careful not to cut anything too hard
I live in Hurricane alley and this really looks to be the answer for easy and precise sharpener after a beat down of cutting oak and pine all day. I don’t think I ever sharpened a chain they didn’t pull. Looks to be a nice product. Thanks
Interesting concept, definitely looks easier and more precise to turn the grind instead of drive it through with a normal file. I bought the Stihl hand-shapener on your recommendation. Would you alternate between this and the Stihl to keep the depth guage consistent? That was the only reason I bought the Stihl was the 2 part sharpening of both the tooth and the depth gauge.
I bought the tool a few years ago. It’s way overpriced, and if you’re not extremely careful, even with a new chain, you’ll chip the carbides out, rendering the tool useless. I can buy seven brand new chains, hand sharpen them once or twice with the files that W threw out, and throw them away for the cost of the sharpener. I own the tool. I have used it five or six times, and it’s just not worth it.
I have MS and it affects my fine motor control making filing a challenging thing. I have the stihl multi-file system And I still find that my angles and depth of cut are terribly inconsistent. I think that system would benefit me greatly
That was my question - does this jig have any in-built functions for the rakers? I know, if it does, it's probably in the directions ... Lol. But seriously, seems like an important function that should be addressed from something as precise as this jig.
I was just sharpening my saws yesterday by hand. Rethinking how I've been doing it after watching you use this amazing tool. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us here on TH-cam!
My buddy bought one a couple yrs ago..its the best thing ive seen yet.. I sharpen my chains by hand. ( im pretty good at it.)..but after every 3-4 sharps i bring it to him..it does every tooth the same..I'm only off a little. But i do notice the difference after he evens them out...it's surprising to see it was a little pricey for me.. But I'm kinda cheap...if i had the extra money ida bought one myself...
Isn't that the point of invention and innovation? If we aren't improving things and finding better things are we really bettering ourselves and our society?
Mark wease I love your channel . you have great content and your ad vice has help save me from making the wrong mistake. Thank very much. From my family to yours god bless and keep up the great work
The trouble with gadgets like this is that by the time you’ve farted about with it, fitting it, setting it up, you could have sharpened the whole chain just using a file and an Oregon file holder, which is what I do then go over the rakers with a flat file. It’s not a mystical skill, it just takes time to learn, the time it would take to fir a gadget like this weird doofur.
I’ll partially agree with you but as someone who has never been able to learn and master the traditional way of filing a saw chain without it cutting curvy, this tool has been an awesome help.
Yea I'm an east coast man been doing tree work and logging for 15 plus years and before that I farmed as a kid we burnt wood I still do I can sharpen my own damn saw and it dont cut half moons either keep your west coast gadgets we dont need them here in the appalachians course you can sell somebody from Florida any thing around here must have something with people on the west coast cutting rocks and dirt see it all the time on youtube
I actually am impressed with this tool. Having to heat with wood for many years, I very much prefer to sharpen my chains by hand. I've found the electric sharpeners are just junk and can ruin a chain fast. The system you just showed looks to be built very nicely and I can see as you say, we all have our inconsistencies and would have to adjust until inline. Cody, one thing you said that really caught my attention is that you will only use a hand file 2-3 times and throw it out. That seems very wasteful to me. I honestly never kept track of how much I got out of a file, but I can bet it's way more than that. I will generally replace them when I'm sharpening and it just feels like it's not catching very well, and even then a little bath in some muriatic acid and a good water rinse will help to get the file cleaner and good for awhile. Files don't cost much, but I definitely don't like to waste money. Something else I think would be good for your viewers would be the difference between a modified chisel, full chisel, semi chisel chains, and how much nicer they are than the regular consumer chains. And really at no extra cost, a good Oregon chain off of Amazon is barely more if any than the stock chain. Cheers from Michigan
I'd definitely like an in depth explanation on the different types. I definitely buy Oregon chains tho. They seem to hold up better than the stihl chains.
@@jacobdavis1470 I've been using a modified and full chisel chain for many years and I'll never go back to a stock chain or anything close. The only thing you need to be aware of is the lack of "anti-kickback" in the teeth of a stock chain.
Jacob Davis full chisel cuts the fastest but also most prone to quickest dulling once you take the point off the leading edge of the tooth. Best all round chain is a Semi Chisel with a rounded leading front corner. Certainly Far more forgiving than full chisel and unless you’re involved in racing competition, you’ll never notice its any slower than full chisel. Sure Oregon chain once stretched in under “Proper/critical chain tension works fine but nothing in my opinion stretches less from the get go than Stihl chain. But hey I only have 20yrs of cutting experience as a full time arborist and farmer with 30acres of hardwoods, 11yrs as a certified Stihl tech prior to that and a lifetime of twisting wrenches. YMMV
Thats cool as hell! I was actually cutting a couple fallen trees up for my neighbor and had to sharpen twice due to catching the ground a bit. This looks perfect. Thanx for sharing.
Ok so this is the 2nd time you've said "Best Chainsaw Sharpener, Ever" that I'm aware of. The first one was for the Stihl one that also did the raker tooth. So which one is better?
Haha no kidding. To keep oil from plugging up and ruining your files prematurely, of the saws been sitting for any length of time or maybe sitting idling and pumping oil, fire up the saw and quickly touch it into wood which dries the chain off and helps save file life.
All these years watching these videos I never needed this knowledge, but now I need a chainsaw and I'm grateful for the info. Got a Husky 445.
I am a certified master watchmaker for 43 years now. I have watched several chainsaw sharpening videos. This to me is the best precision sharpening tool that I have ever seen for chainsaw sharpening. You not only have precision but consistency, with simplicity and full visual of what you are doing. I like the fact that the milling is a slow graduated mill to produce a smooth and sharp cut.
The consistency of cutting will take off minimal amount of material. Giving me longer use of my chains. This is the truth. I stopped at Ace hardware tonight after work and looked at the
Stihl 2 in 1 sharpener. It looks good, but it still is up to the person doing the sharpening. I told the man at Ace. I know what it’s like sharpening my set of small screwdrivers. The precision makes the difference. Then I come home and see this video. Wow ! You can’t make a mistake. This is the one !
Wranglerstar- “Simple enough for an east coast man”
(Puts it on backwards)
INDEED!
That’s funny!! 🤣
Yeah, but He was also backwards, working, thinking, and talking all at the same time, with cameras and equipment all around him. So.....
LOL
He said don’t quote me
I've had mine for a couple years. I love it.
I replaced all my chains and stated using this sharpener to keep them consistent. No complaints
Makes sharpening in the field so much easier.
Been using one of these for 5 or 6 yrs and very pleased with results. Very consistent and easy to use.
I respect wranglerstar a lot he’s definitely a west coast guy
West coast is the only coast!
@@marktcso Sounds like something a west coast guy would say...
Being a gear head I can appreciate the precision of a CNC made tool that’s also compact enough to carry into the woods with me.
I know this is an older video but what can I say, I'm slow to view.
I have been heating with wood and cutting, feling trees for more than a decade now. Sharpening has always been my biggest adversary. Trying free-hand filing to several different file guide systems and even my own home made guides. I currently use the Stihl file all for ease of operation. But still it is keeping the continuous angle " the important part" that has always been my nemesis . The new to me guide you are using in this video is quite astonishing and Very accurate. I have not seen this tool before but it is quite amazing.
Although out of my price range I would surely have one of these devices. It was hard enough to spend what I did on the Stihl file all. You have done a great video on this product and convinced me to purchase one when the funds become available . Until then. I'm stuck on Stihl. 5/16 .325
A small tear fell seeing that chain going across the rock. - Aaron Birkeland
Mine was a large tear. That was a scary thing to witness.
Me too.
LOL!!! I know, right?? I think he does that on purpose just to see me cringe....
@@rnj1223a Advice , chainsaws are unforgiving , number one rule , when your saw is not being used Put your Chain Guard ON ! number two always have chainsaw gloves on every time you touch your baby, get it wrong and someone will have a big problem ! NEVER drop start your Saw ? There are only two ways to start your Saw ? Grip the between your knees ,or flat on ground with foot on pad in Handel ... Get someone to show you , if they say we don't do that ? .. say thanks and walk away !! And get professional advice and training , always remember , you must never say , l should have listened ? NEVER LOOK DOWN SAW BAR whilst Cutting .. If the chain hits metal in tree , old nail or barbwire , ... it will bounce the saw back on you , not good ? If you live you will have a big scar and babble like a baby ? ..
@@rnj1223a After sharping your Chain , Don't forget depth gauge , using flat file ?
Comparison time: Timberland Sharpener vs. Stihl All-in-One File vs. professionally sharpened on a grinder vs. brand new chain.
How long does each edge last?
Which is best in a field kit?
How long does each one take (including setup)?
How much attention do you have to pay to depth gauge on the chain?
Yes please
Depth guides are CRITICAL to cut performance and must be matched to each tooth. This is why Stihl tool is best for amateur user. Or the tool shown here plus a second step, depth guides using file guide.
Hand filing by a professional (not Wranglestar) is best of all for performance. But you need to be filing between tanks all day, keeping in exact touch with your chain and depth guides by feel. You need to perform hundreds or thousands of sharpens whilst getting paid per tree to get to this level.
I use hand filing or bench grinder, although my grinder is set up with non typical CBN grinding wheels which grind quicker and more importantly cooler than normal aluminium oxide wheels. Typically a shop or an impatient operator will overheat the chain teeth when using a chain grinder. Not ideal for multiple reasons but OK to some if carying spare chain and grinding regularly at home.
Best luck. Find worst tooth and clean both cutting edges, top plate and gullet (hook) to witness marks. Concentrate on evenness and every tooth the same.
Wranglerstar doesn't normally reply to comments. But it does help his income.
I second this
I winced when you ran across that rock! lol. I've hand sharpened my whole life with fair results. I like how consistent this tool is. It's like having a new chain every time. Sign me up!
I sharpen all my saws by hand. My friend just bought the Stihl 2 into 1 angled sharpener and he says it is better than the somewhat more complicated Timberline one. Coming from an old timer, using just a rat tail file, I'd love an opportunity to "one up" my buddy, the next time we go cutting. Great video on the Timberline sharpener.!
The precision of this tool is quite impressive.
"Simple enough for an East Coast man", as he is installing it backwards.
Elmer Fudpucker well, that’s exactly the point! Simple enough for us E.C.’s, but those W.C. guys need their mamma to show them how to sharpen their saws right.
💪
Those left coast guys are such maroons!!!
He probably put that in there on purpose so that the East Coast guys wouldn’t feel so bad for making some of the mistakes they might make. But then they get cocky. LOL
Michael Sherman well, if read the instructions he could do it right the first time. Too bad those WC guys can’t read...
;)
Timothy Musson we don’t need no readin’! 😬
Looks like a very accurate sharpener and not having to turn it around to sharpen other direction is a real time saver. I like your videos. I'm so sorry for your loss of your father.
Keith
Loved the information you always provide. I have been running chainsaws since I was 16 years old cutting hardwoods in mountains cutting firewood and pulpwood and no matter how careful you are you are going to touch a ROCK so there you are with your file trying to put a edge back on . I have always tried to use a file guide of some sort but I will always sharpen one side more than the other one not that it cuts a circle but one side will have shorter teeth. I would really love to have one of those as my eye sight is not as good as it was these would be very helpful.
Thanks for all the good videos and may GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
Is it better than the Stihl sharpener you loved so much? I noticed that this sharpener doesn't have anything for the depth gauge.
Good point
I love the stihl sharpener
you still have to buy a depth guage and do it by hand, hence why this sharpener stays in the shed and i take my Stihl 2 in 1 with me everywhere instead
Kenneth Raynor
I have had trouble sharpening for years this Timberline looks like the answer to my problem so simple
Way to go Wranglerstar seems like they're taking chain sharpening up a notch with class. I would love to have one and since I'm from the "East Coast, I promise to read the instructions first ;)
Recently my wife bought me a STLE chain saw and I came across your video on this tool you were using that I really liked. I sure would like to get my hands on one of them. PS I also loved the scripture at the end of the video very encouraging. Dave
Yes been looking for a system like that! I have MS and have difficulty with fine motor control. I wish I had seen this before I bought my Stihl multi-file sharpener. However that mentioned I don't see that it reduces the rakers, the part of the chain that controls the depth of cut which you need to file as you sharpen the tooth.
Am thinking of perhaps using this for a few sharpenings then either the Stihl multi-file or have the shop do it to bring the depth in line, repeat, etc... with the objective of choosing a mid cost between hand filing and shop fees or an electric motor unit. Also, interested in time efficiency. Given that I'm not a skilled hand filer, does this make sense?
Would love to see a side by side comparison with the Stihl sharpener.
The Stihl sharpener is so easy to use, really would like to see a comparison!
This tool is awesome. What a precision job and I Love the consistency so you know that every tooth is sharpened exactly the same.
This is by far the Best sharpener I have ever seen for a chainsaw blade thank you for this video going to order one today.
My great grandfather was one of the last old growth hand “choppers” , my dad cut old growth too (32 foot on the stump redwood was his biggest ) and man my dad can sharpen a chain, I suck at it lol
Cool. You have a geat history.
Nothing beats a round file and experience when sharpening a chain.
Except square ground chain that litterally cuts 25% faster than round file
True! But for the rest of us?
I agree. I enjoy hand sharpening a chainsaw. I would like to get a vise for when I am out and want to sharpen a chain.
I could really use one of these!As I spend 30 to 40 mins sharpening my work saws. Awesome tool I'd really like to try out👍
I bought one and it only sharpened one side and that wasn’t easy. I hope it was user error but I went back to hand filing.
@@shawnmullinsoutdoors how much was it when you bought it? They like to hike the price if he gives good reviews.
@@BrokenAbyss about $120 but it’s not worth $1
If I remember right
@@shawnmullinsoutdoors d*mn dude, did you start with new chain? Or had you already sharpened it before?
I recently purchased my first chainsaw and need help using/maintaining it. Of course, within the first use the chain is need of sharpening as there was a bit of dirt with the roots the stump I had pulled out and was cutting to discard.
I was searching youtube on how best to sharpen the chain with best tool and technic. It looks like with this Timberline tool even a novice chainsaw man like myself cannot screw things up. Although, it is pricey but I think it will make up for with easier working ability.
Thank you so much for sharing. Also, clicked and subscribed for future educational videos. I still need help. 😁
Keep up the good work and God bless you all.🙏
It’s not quite simple enough for a west coast man if he puts it on backwards
My family owns a Christmas tree farm this looks like a useful addition to the tool shed
I'm a Northeast Coaster who would like to try this sharpener out.
I have never seen anything like this. I never had any luck with hand filing a chainsaw chain. This tool looks like a wondrous gamechanger. And I really like the fact of saving money of taking my chain to the local shore for sharpening ( $25.00 CAN ). And being out of work I need to save as much as I can. Tight budget. Thank you very much if I'm selected.
My step father can file by hand, but he will love this as a christmas gift.
Running the chain across that rock made me pucker up and wince.
That looks like a cool product, well done Timberline.
This is a must have for anyone using a chainsaw. it looks to be fairly simple to use,and looks to be a quality tool. I have been viewing different videos about this tool and they all are praising this tool.I will obtain one soon!
I'm happy to see that this product is available here in Australia.
@Patrol Adventures Australia Yeah but over $250 not worth it, the stihl ones are better as they file down the depth gauge at the same time, this doesn't so you need to run around the chain and file them after using this, 2 steps forward 1 step back
Being fairly new with chainsaws, sharpening the chain is something I been researching alot here lately, wanting to be able to be consistent with sharpening the chain and to the best possible way i see that I've found the tool for the job. Hope to have the opportunity to work with it.
Love video very helpful, can I buy direct from timberline could you send me the link , I don't want to go to Amazon as their seems to be a lot of counterfeits.sean in Ireland.
I had one of these and they do work good I gave it to a friend that couldn’t get the hang of a file. For me the file is faster and just as good
I have used several different chain sharpners over the years but have never run across this one,this is the best looking one ìve seen,guess I will have to try one,great video.
Funny, I just saw your 28 oct 2017 'Best Chainsaw Sharpener Ever - FINALLY!!! video and now this one.
Looks like an interesting quality sharpening tool. I've been hand sharpening for fifty years so I'm stubborn when it comes to using a device. In my early days, I did use a gig every other sharpening to keep the proper angle and like most things in life, the more you do the better you get at it. Over the years, I found that many people don't understand that the rakers control how much wood the cutters take and some never even file them down. Some take the rakers way down and a jumping saw is dangerous for most sawyers to handle. Some file off too much cutter on one side so the saw cuts in circles. I always sharpen my weak side first or take more licks on weak side than my strong arm side. A lot of choppers file chisel chain too deep in the gullet instead of the top of cutter. Making sure the leading edge is sharp is important and once you dull the leading edge your performance drops because that's the first part of the cutter that touches the wood. This is my first chainsaw clip of yours that I've watched so I'm sure your other chainsaw videos explain all this. Be Safe!
Yes, he didn't mention anything about the rakers and apparently that tool doesn't handle that
Bought one and used it for about a year. Did not like it was awkward and did not seem to get it as sharp as I would like. I ended up getting the Pferd 2n1 system and am happy with that.
Wood-n-Yard Junkie yeah this seem a bit excessive for what it does. Those 2 in 1s are great because they do both teeth and rakers at once. It only takes a few minutes to go around an entire chain with no effort.
@@KingdomOfApple yes speed and efficiency is what I'm looking for. The only thing I do is take out the file for the rakers and use it only every 3rd sharpening. I find it takes the rakers down a tic too much. Makes the saw grabby in wood.
I need all the help I can get . I am just a old farmer just trying to make life a little easier.this wood make life a lot better for a old man. Thanks and God bless you for all you do.
I bought one of these a few years ago (2013) when I was falling timber in Northern Maine. It works OK but still isn't nearly as good as hand filing if you know what you're doing. The "indexing" pawls wear out as they were made of soft aluminum on the model I bought. I had spoken with the designing engineer to make some changes for improvement to the pawls and don't ever know if any changes were made. In the end, this is a good product for those who aren't good at filing by hand
I'm sorry but I just don't see it doing items job
Dose it even file 10 to 15 degrees to cup the tooth out properly
@@rastamon5969 I've seen them but never bought one. I'm told by my Stihl dealer that I'm one of 2 guys they know of that hand files
Video idea: Making a leather sheath for the chainsaw sharpener.
Stripped Outdoors I was thinking the exact same thing, a leather sheath would be amazing for this little tool.
First thing that went through my head when he mentioned the case. Great minds think alike.
tig weld a belt clip?
I almost bought this 2 years ago but you talked me into the Granberg.
Bought. One a couple years back. Best chainsaw sharpener I’ve ever owned. Hands down.
I'd like one for my 73 year old dad. Still heats his house in Saskatchewan on wood only.
Looks like a cool tool. Especially for someone like me who is hard on chains.
So easy the West Coast guy puts it on backwards.
😂
Hahaha that's awesome! 🤣
I came to say the same thing! Lol
Best comment ever!!
That’s awesome. I work repairing tools part time and people also come and ask if we sharpen blades. I could recommend this product! Leo G (east coast) lol
Just started with an ego 18" learning each step. Been looking at videos to learn. This would help start me on a great path if I could get one. Great Video ! !
When he says “ it’s so easy, even an east coast guy can use it” then he proceeds to put in on wrong 😂😂
he also said dont quote him on that lmao
I guess in not a smart guy living on east coast
As an East cost guy we have no need for fancy gadgets to sharpen a chainsaw, we know how to use a file.
My Uncle and Cousin, were "East Coast Men", who were "Lumberjacks, for close to 50 years for my Uncle and 45, for my cousin. Professional lumber men. They had to use files, in all of those years, not to mention repairing their own saws.
Very nice sharpening job, very pro quality!!!
This is the THIRD "Best Chainsaw Sharpener" I have bought because of this channel....The Granberg, the Stihl and now this one. My wife hates you! Lol.....
That looks like an amazing sharpener. I could really use one of those I am starting small engine repair on the side and have about 20 chainsaws to sharpen.
I've been watching Dad sharpen chains for years,and struggle. Wow! Is all I can say. I'd love to get one for my 80 year old,still cutting his wood 👨Dad
I use the 12 volt sharpener that you recommend years ago!
So much faster than the timberline. And the stones are so much cheaper. I have one as well. I wouldn't use anything else. I can sharpen a whole 25inch chain in less than 5 min
Whats the name of it?
Granberg 12v Sharpener.
Stihl makes one that's similar now.
@@johnroth4981 Thank you for taking the time to reply, I will take a look at it !
I died a little inside when you hit that on a rock! I’m genuinely jealous of that sharpener!
haha i got a sick feeling in my stomach when i saw it too lol
My father in law is one of those “I can sharpen a saw great by hand” fellas. Sure could use one of these👍
Looks great. Will try one soon
Looks like a good sharpener but at $125, seems like it's way over priced.
This is on Amazon Canada for the rediculess price of $570, the Stihl 2 in 1 is $45 at my local Stihl pro shop.
Too bloody right, £270 here in the UK !!! WTF how can it cost that much and still sell
Its worth every penny
Is cheaper and faster than hand files per chain sharpening after the initial purchase
And takes off way less material than a grinder style sharpener so you get several more sharpens on a chain making you save money by not having to buy chains as often
@@rastamon5969 it's available on Sheldon Hill forestry supply
Red Ensign it’s £267 here in uk
So ouchy
That would be a perfect Christmas present for my dad.
“...and this is a rock.” VRRROOMMMMM. LOL
I picked up one of these from Facebook marketplace. Works super and I paid a small fraction of the original price.
Forgive me if I missed this, but I didn’t see this too address the depth gauges.
Chris Nash typically this is a great way to get your saw sharp quickly.
The rakers are commonly taken down as needed every few times you sharpen.
A good sign that the rakers need work is the saw, even though sharp, has difficulty getting through the wood.
Just means that the tooth is too low to get a bite.
Really though every 3rd sharpen just take 1 swipe off the rakers
If chains is sharp and your making powder and dust take off more you want to be throwing chips and small slivers
I'd like one. You should review those "automatic self sharpening" tools where you attach to the end, press the stone in and run the blade. Seems much easier if it actually works. See "oregon powersharp". Thanks.
youtube12345 I'll sell you mine
the Oregon powersharp chains are a totally different design. Thats why they can be sharpened that way and thats why the chains are $30-40. I have the CS1500 electric powersharp and it works well as long as you are VERY careful not to cut anything too hard
Been wondering about those things. Seems too good to be true
@@mylesclay it almost is, but as long as you're careful with it not to touch the ground or nails in the wood, the chain will last 100+ cuts
Run what blade?
If it’s easy enough for a west coaster, I would like it.
I live in Hurricane alley and this really looks to be the answer for easy and precise sharpener after a beat down of cutting oak and pine all day. I don’t think I ever sharpened a chain they didn’t pull. Looks to be a nice product. Thanks
Looks like a good tool that I would use often.
Interesting concept, definitely looks easier and more precise to turn the grind instead of drive it through with a normal file. I bought the Stihl hand-shapener on your recommendation. Would you alternate between this and the Stihl to keep the depth guage consistent? That was the only reason I bought the Stihl was the 2 part sharpening of both the tooth and the depth gauge.
Just grind the depth gages off, they are useless
@@ChrisLascari Hard core
Seems like a neat little sharper that’s definitely worth the value.
Been sharpening blades for a long while. I cannot wait to try this guy, looks like it will be a game changer for me.
I'm an east coast guy and my hands are actual chainsaws.
I bet you are a big Bruce Campbell fan.
I wouldn't mind having one and it's a very good tool and I'm a newbie are sharpening chains not really could use one John David Coleman
@Sven3xs there are some rugged East coast women 😂
Rofl
I bought the tool a few years ago. It’s way overpriced, and if you’re not extremely careful, even with a new chain, you’ll chip the carbides out, rendering the tool useless. I can buy seven brand new chains, hand sharpen them once or twice with the files that W threw out, and throw them away for the cost of the sharpener. I own the tool. I have used it five or six times, and it’s just not worth it.
Thanks...good comment to consider.
Any chance I can buy it from you?
Kinda figured that was the case.
Thanks for the heads up.
How much slower is it than hand file?
I have MS and it affects my fine motor control making filing a challenging thing. I have the stihl multi-file system And I still find that my angles and depth of cut are terribly inconsistent. I think that system would benefit me greatly
This is an amazing sharpener. Still need to file the rakers.
That was my question - does this jig have any in-built functions for the rakers? I know, if it does, it's probably in the directions ... Lol. But seriously, seems like an important function that should be addressed from something as precise as this jig.
I was just sharpening my saws yesterday by hand. Rethinking how I've been doing it after watching you use this amazing tool. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us here on TH-cam!
You won’t be calling it amazing once you’ve bought one. I have. Many regrets.
@@aliray1165 what’s wrong with it
As a Machinist I have never trusted a hand file. This looks like a mini milling machine. Very promising.
My buddy bought one a couple yrs ago..its the best thing ive seen yet.. I sharpen my chains by hand. ( im pretty good at it.)..but after every 3-4 sharps i bring it to him..it does every tooth the same..I'm only off a little. But i do notice the difference after he evens them out...it's surprising to see it was a little pricey for me.. But I'm kinda cheap...if i had the extra money ida bought one myself...
Up next this year’s Best sharpener EVER - until next year
LOL........I was thinking the same. I wonder if he's giving up the Stihl one?
That’s for sure.
You realize next year is only 2 weeks away? lol
Isn't that the point of invention and innovation? If we aren't improving things and finding better things are we really bettering ourselves and our society?
I have seen these before. Just did not like the price.
Yep looks like a great tool especial when im out in the field i can sharpen right there. I would still bring an extra chain for grins.
Mark wease I love your channel . you have great content and your ad vice has help save me from making the wrong mistake. Thank very much. From my family to yours god bless and keep up the great work
The trouble with gadgets like this is that by the time you’ve farted about with it, fitting it, setting it up, you could have sharpened the whole chain just using a file and an Oregon file holder, which is what I do then go over the rakers with a flat file. It’s not a mystical skill, it just takes time to learn, the time it would take to fir a gadget like this weird doofur.
I’ll partially agree with you but as someone who has never been able to learn and master the traditional way of filing a saw chain without it cutting curvy, this tool has been an awesome help.
Yea I'm an east coast man been doing tree work and logging for 15 plus years and before that I farmed as a kid we burnt wood I still do I can sharpen my own damn saw and it dont cut half moons either keep your west coast gadgets we dont need them here in the appalachians course you can sell somebody from Florida any thing around here must have something with people on the west coast cutting rocks and dirt see it all the time on youtube
Don’t let him get to you brotha
I want one, a comparison to the Stihl sharpener would be neat
Think I’ll get one. Look really good. Cheers
Cutting mesquite trees of south Texas this is definitely something I need
Man, those and the cedars seem to chew up blades like no ones business.
Another Right coast guy would like to try one of these.
Which way are you facing? :-)
Looks like a Great tool that I would love to use often and looks like just what I need I am from Australia I would love to try one for FREE
I deconstructed the case and made one out of waxed canvas. The timberline sharpener rocks. 💯🤙🏽
Too late to win one? 😂😂😂 excellent product, just bought the Stihl 2 in 1, looking forward to using it and sharpening my own chains. New subscriber!
I actually am impressed with this tool. Having to heat with wood for many years, I very much prefer to sharpen my chains by hand. I've found the electric sharpeners are just junk and can ruin a chain fast. The system you just showed looks to be built very nicely and I can see as you say, we all have our inconsistencies and would have to adjust until inline.
Cody, one thing you said that really caught my attention is that you will only use a hand file 2-3 times and throw it out. That seems very wasteful to me. I honestly never kept track of how much I got out of a file, but I can bet it's way more than that. I will generally replace them when I'm sharpening and it just feels like it's not catching very well, and even then a little bath in some muriatic acid and a good water rinse will help to get the file cleaner and good for awhile. Files don't cost much, but I definitely don't like to waste money.
Something else I think would be good for your viewers would be the difference between a modified chisel, full chisel, semi chisel chains, and how much nicer they are than the regular consumer chains. And really at no extra cost, a good Oregon chain off of Amazon is barely more if any than the stock chain.
Cheers from Michigan
I'd definitely like an in depth explanation on the different types. I definitely buy Oregon chains tho. They seem to hold up better than the stihl chains.
@@jacobdavis1470 I've been using a modified and full chisel chain for many years and I'll never go back to a stock chain or anything close. The only thing you need to be aware of is the lack of "anti-kickback" in the teeth of a stock chain.
Jacob Davis full chisel cuts the fastest but also most prone to quickest dulling once you take the point off the leading edge of the tooth. Best all round chain is a Semi Chisel with a rounded leading front corner. Certainly Far more forgiving than full chisel and unless you’re involved in racing competition, you’ll never notice its any slower than full chisel.
Sure Oregon chain once stretched in under “Proper/critical chain tension works fine but nothing in my opinion stretches less from the get go than Stihl chain. But hey I only have 20yrs of cutting experience as a full time arborist and farmer with 30acres of hardwoods, 11yrs as a certified Stihl tech prior to that and a lifetime of twisting wrenches. YMMV
Beware of the knockoffs on Amazon.
Sweet. Definitely interested, even if I don’t win
Yeah, might invest in one. Looks sturdy to last long
Thats cool as hell! I was actually cutting a couple fallen trees up for my neighbor and had to sharpen twice due to catching the ground a bit. This looks perfect. Thanx for sharing.
The whole "East Coast vs. West Coast" bit has gotten kinda dull, almost as dull as someone from the West Coast...
It's a running joke, don't take it as anything more. But the west coast is lame.
Still waiting for the “mid-coast” to get a mention. (Michigan) lol
Never gets old...
If the shoe fits...
This guy is a moron thinks he is so much better then everyone else
Ok so this is the 2nd time you've said "Best Chainsaw Sharpener, Ever" that I'm aware of. The first one was for the Stihl one that also did the raker tooth. So which one is better?
The Stihl. This one does not do the rake
There is no need to be rude to the people on the east coast. Bless your heart.
If you can’t handle a joke, then you probably shouldn’t be on the internet..
Thanks for making this video very HELPFUL getting one tomorrow because of this video.
It does seem like a nice rig for sharpening in the field.
I’m from the south I just sharpen my arrow heads with stones.
Three times, and you toss out your files? I would love to have them "worn out" ones :D
I have had the same file for about 8 years. Still works fine...
Haha no kidding. To keep oil from plugging up and ruining your files prematurely, of the saws been sitting for any length of time or maybe sitting idling and pumping oil, fire up the saw and quickly touch it into wood which dries the chain off and helps save file life.
I was thinking the same 😁😁
As long as the file cuts it is still worth using. My first file for the chainsaw is still the one I use.
Great video 👍
looks like someone finally did it! good job, so many crappy ones on the market that don't really do the job