Man the timing cover is such a small leak. Just check every so often and top it off. I wouldn't waste a dime repairing that hahahaha. I see people on forums over 100k miles acting like the sky is falling over a little oil seepage. My ram leaked oil and coolant from multiple spots its entire life. I sold it at 188k miles and just heard from my friend its still cranking and going. Top it off and keep on rolling If my 23 gets this issue out of warranty I am not touching it.
I think the crankcase ventilation valve is plugged. It's on the rear of the drivers side valve cover. Mine operates like a standard PCV valve on my 2018. I have 46K and not a hint of a leak, but I clean the PCV valve on mine every oil change. If the valve sticks shut, it will develop crankcase pressure and cause leaks. Start the engine, remove the oil fill cap and hold a small sheet of paper over the oil fill opening. It should draw to the oil fill opening. If it doesn't, or is pushed away, you have a clogged crankcase ventilation system and/or an engine with a LOT of blowby.
This is the comment I came here for. Your explanation is spot on! I just replaced the PCV valve on my 2008 Highlander's 2GR FE for the third time since owning it. I'm at 245K miles. I wish I did it sooner each time. I've had seepage from the timing cover (rear/left side) as well as a few spots around the valve covers, and also found a fair amount of oil in three of my spark plug wells (2 front, 1 rear). That's what triggered me to check my PCV valve - and it was sticky as hell, with limited movement. I'm hoping the new one will help the seepage issue.
No oil consumption between 6K changes other than the initial 3 or 4 ounce burnoff of additives at about 2 K miles. No blowby at all. I spent one solid month running from WV to NJ hauling a trailer full to capacity (3000 pounds including the trailer) back to WV, 1K miles round trip. Even that month I never burned any oil, and running at 70mph in 4th and 5th gear you are turning at least 3K all the time, and at times 5K. A strong engine whose horsepower and torque curves are way out of place in a truck.
@@honkie247 Much agreed about the power and torque curves. I've always love the 2GR FE in our Highlander off the line and 0-60 because it's a rocket. However, in practical situations, like regular 0-35 in city driving or maintaining highway speeds up long grades, there's no torque down low to maintain thrust without a gear or two kick-down. I didn't know how bad it was until my wife moved into a Mazda CX-5 Turbo. THAT thing hauls ass no matter the speed, gear, grade what not. That turbo torque is intoxicating!
The 2GR-FE and the 2GR-FKS both have the potential to develop this leak. It was reported that the 2016-17 Tacomas with the 2GR-FKS was more prone to develop this leak. Its a huge job to repair properly. Some folks may just want to live with it as it’s not a huge leak but a dribbler. Just keep an eye on the oil level. Or take your chances and have a dealership do this very labour intensive repair or sell it unfortunately.
2016 tacoma had a lot of problems because it was the first year for the 3rd gen new engine.. Any thing 2018 and up seems to be solid. I have a 2018 with 60k no issues.
Yes the 2016 & 2017 2GR-FKS did have a front timing cover leak on a few engines, you have to remember there were about 700,000 Tacomas sold but 2018 so you did have a handful that did leak . I have a buddy with a 2016 Tacoma 3.5L and he has 191k miles on it and no leaks . Regardless they shouldn’t leak period !! and I’m a Toyota guy and do own a 21 TRD Tacoma OR 4x4
I have the same engine in my 2019 highlander. It was leaking oil from timing cover with only 37,000 miles. Luckily it was covered under powertrain warranty. So far so good…
My 2017 Tacoma had the same issue at 78,000 miles. The timing chain cover was leaking. It also had a coolant leak above the transmission. $5,800 repair at the dealer. Thank God I had the extended warranty thru my insurance.
Have you driven a Tacoma 6 cylinder to compare it too? I'm wanting to buy a spare vehicle and want a single cab 4 cylinder but everything I've read says that the fuel economy is exactly the same between the 4 and 6 cylinder engines.
@@AdamVest I owned a 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder 2022. Very slight MPG difference but I got a little better in the 4 cylinder in real world. It is incredibly slow though and I'm much happier with the V6
I have 2017 sienna . Same engine. 154k. It sips oil just little bit in the bottom. Not that bad as this Tacoma. I have never seen a drop of oil on the ground. 10k miles oil changes. 60% highway miles. Same level between oil changes. Car care nut channel describes this problem cause it is notorious for first years of 2gr-fe, fse. The only thing I changed was water pump at 76k. They start to use new 808 aisin water pump instead of old 803 that was leaking. So far very good engine.
@@luptonpittman6520 again I don’t stay in traffic like Chicago or New York. I drive my car. Only use Toyota oil and filter. If I lived in New York with start stop traffic I would definitely change it 5000-7500 miles.
@Swim Fan average 30k a year. I only do Toyota oil and filter. Again I have lots of highway driving. No winter snow driving at all. No idling like NY or Chicago. If you drive start stop all the time definitely do 5000-7500 miles.
@Swim Fan I will keep it until it runs lol (300-500k)...no one who tells you to change oil every 5000 miles speak about the driving manner. 1500-2000 rpm all the time, short trips - that's what kills your engine. Even when you buy brand new car first 2000 miles you should drive your car different way....sometimes give the engine 4000;5000, 6000 rpm....that's how your make engine cilynder walls perfect surface ...every good motorist knows that. ....also when you high rev your engine it make your piston rings clean itself.... The right way to change your oil by motor hours ...( Average speed of your car multiply on 250-300 hours ...that's how long modern synthetic oil live ) ....so if you drive in New York city with a erage speed 10-20 mph you get 5000-6000 miles from your oil .... I think our 8 speed trannies will die much sooner than this engine
I just completed this repair on a 2017 Taco with 80k miles. The rear main seal was leaking terribly, and I noticed the timing case was leaking as well. So I removed the engine and did the repair that way. I sure hope the front timing cover doesn't leak again, it was a bear to do in my driveway.
@Chuck Person life stage...owned Tacos for over 20 years...that's all I drove. It started to get cramped as a kid hauler plus I didn't like the 3rd gen as much as my prior 2nd and 1st Gen. Also, the GX was $13,750 as opposed to the $35k my Taco cost. I bought a small trailer for my ATV, so that also works for hauling "truck" stuff when needed. Lastly, no payments on the GX!!!
Yeah...I've had the leak but just out of warranty and dont want to risk the flat rate tech that'll have to do it. Until its terrible and leaking on the driveway I'll just keep cleaning.
@@BrockOBauma No more special engines for trucks or the great V8's they used to produce, everything uses the 3.5. This is a problem that's tarnishing the brand. I've watched a warranty with the timing chain seal on a front wheel drive Lexus. It's a huge job requiring an engine drop to do correctly. I'll drive my first gen Tacoma with the 3.4l until I can drive no more and I'm sure it will last.
How is minivan duty any less demanding than Tacoma? Minivans are heavy af and often driven short distances, which is very hard for engines. Toyota is trying to maintain midsize pickup offering in the USA while EPA is killing small trucks with combustion engines. Consolidating engine platforms is good for servicing these cars in the next 10-20 years because these cars are already very complicated with very tight tolerances. It will be hard to find mechanics and machine shops with experience on every different one of them.
Leaking timing covers is a known issue in this engine. It’s a good engine but this was an assembly issue. The techs didn’t do the job right. He should take it back or find a better dealer to fix it right.
I really hate to say this but it's not a lemon. It's actually a common issue and many Toyota Mechanics have been talking about too. The 2GR-FKS engine have the exact same oil leaking issue as the 2GR-FE engine. The 2GR-FE was known for oil leaking issue at the 3 point contact. At "The Car Care Nut" youtube channel he explain about this issue about this 3 point contact area where the engine head, engine block and engine cover all meet up to contact each other. That's where the oil leak is coming from and is a common known issue right at that 3 point contact. The updated 2GR-FKS also have the exact same issue right at the exact same area at that 3 point contact. Why didn't Toyota resolve this issue when they clearly knew about this issue is just crazy 😑 😒. At "The Care Car Nuts" youtube channel he said that it is clearly a design flaw issue along with bad Toyota assembly crew not putting enough sealant when the engine was put together at the assembly line. He said that as long as toyota continue to use this engine design theirs going to continue to be this issue. He said that the best way and only way to fully fix this issue is to take the engine cover off and reseal it back on and make sure to put extra sealant right on to that three point contact area where the engine head, engine block and engine cover meet up. And TOYOTA we know that you know that we know that you know of this issue so what's the deal.
Yep… and it doesn’t happen with every vehicle. The easy fix is right at assembly; just to make sure proper amounts of sealants are applied at that time.
FKS has a TSB for repair of this engine if certain fastener is soaked from engine leaking, but only for vehicles under warranty. Prior to my drivetrain warranty expiring, I checked on the engine and it looked good, I am guessing that I would do the same thing, nothing to the engine, just top it off, if I get a small leak. The FKS is just rust proofing itself.👌
I've seen many of the 3.5's with this issue. The front wheel drive models the engines have to be dropped out for this repair. This problem was ignored by Toyota for quite some time not sure if they've addressed it at this point.
@@alb12345672 The transverse mounted engine layout for front wheel drive models are a nightmare to work on. The correct wheel drive layouts might not require dropping the engine so much easier to work on. All one has to do is check under the hood and how these power plants are shoehorned into the compartment. Big money for mechanics terrible for the customer. Front wheel drives can only utilize power to a certain extent. Front wheels are for steering and control and a really inexpensive way to manufacture. If it's a leased vehicle then have at it.
@@djmjay2 My AWD GS is RWD, is like a Tundra drivetrain squished into a sedan :lol:. Not saying that makes much room. I also have a Lincoln Continental, it has a big 4.6L V8 that is transverse :lol:. Lucky it is a great engine.
@@joer.giallanza1845 It baffles me that Toyota would risk their reputation and not address this manufacture defect for so many years on an engine that is used extensively on all of their brands. The cost to warranty repairs especially on FWD models is costing them big money along with customer dissatisfaction. Some vehicles start to leak as early as 30k miles and the oil drips into the alternator which can not be good for it. I drive a 2003 Tacoma with the amazing 3.4L. It does have a timing belt that has to be replaced around 100k miles and a super simple engine which I do all servicing myself. I wouldn't switch to a timing chain OHC motor as when tensioners and chain need servicing it's way more expensive. Toyota has been aware of this 3.5 issue since right after it's launch and have ignored it. I guess hoping it won't start leaking until warranty is over. What a shame that will cost them money in sales in the end. My 3.4 will outlast me maybe I'll be buried in it.
The 2nd gen Tacoma is way more reliable than the 3rd gen. Now, my 2016 has almost 90k on it and she’s been perfect so far, which isn’t to say I won’t have silly problems like this in the future. These 3rd gens seem to have really random issues.
Gen2 Tacomas are also known to have front timing cover leak , I would by far rather have 2GR-FKS out of the 2 . Better on fuel & much more power , I have both and hardly drive the Gen2 , but that’s just me …
I mean, survivors bias my dude. Petr doesn't get perfect vehicles brought in to him. I have a 2017 v6 taco with 155k kms (~100k mi). Engine has been flawless. I bought it ex-lease from my roommate at 100k kms. Only issue is has ever had has been an overfilled transfer case... when the dealer swapped all my fluids before I took possession. All gens had their hiccups. I will say the best compromise was probably the 3.4L v6 in the 1st gen taco. Shit on fuel, ok power, but very reliable. Given my taco experience, I prefer the fuel efficiency of the 3.5L to the 4.0L power. But I drive stick, so I don't notice the slight reduction in ponies... just pick the correct gear.
The 3.5 is ok but it will cost more to maintain than the 4.0 because it is quite a bit more complex. Double the injectors, more complex VVT, etc. but it does burn quite a bit less fuel than the 4.0 so there’s the trade off
2GR engines are notorious for leaks. I have 2GR-FE from 2007 and it had many leaks. Problem is 2GR-FKS is a 10 year newer version and TOYOTA DİDNT IMPROVE ANYTHING!
Unless it is dripping on the ground, or smoking from oil getting to the exhaust system, I would forget about it. If it bothers you, invest in a roll of expensive paper towels and wipe away in there. Old tee shirts work great too. You are talking about a tiny amount of oil, unless it reaches the ground. In the Northern US Rust Belt, they spray the entire bottom of the vehicle with old oil and other oily chemicals to retard rusting. If you do not do it, most vehicles have to be scrapped after about 10 years, due to rusting from salt used to melt ice on the roads. That gets expensive. I see that Bloomberg TV is reporting that scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory are about to report the first fusion of hydrogen atoms which released more energy than needed to operate the lasers used to force the hydrogen atoms to combine into helium atoms. I always thought that if it could ever be done, lasers would probably be the way to do it. Of course, making constant electricity like that could prove impossible, or be too expensive to afford. Some of the things they are doing with lasers today are amazing. And to think, they are only 62 years old, with the first working one being demonstrated in California by Theodore Maiman working at the Hughes Research Lab. Now satellites in orbit are talking to each other through laser beams !
Possibly a “flat rate” workmanship issue???? Done twice under warranty???? If it’s a design issue, the manufacturer needs to step up and make good on repairs. . (My opinion)
This might be the internal TURBO that's been engineered into this engine by using the lower friction piston rings. Lower friction equates to more blow-by and higher positive crankcase pressures. Probably exasperated during many closed-throttle responses.
Man the timing cover is such a small leak. Just check every so often and top it off. I wouldn't waste a dime repairing that hahahaha. I see people on forums over 100k miles acting like the sky is falling over a little oil seepage. My ram leaked oil and coolant from multiple spots its entire life. I sold it at 188k miles and just heard from my friend its still cranking and going. Top it off and keep on rolling If my 23 gets this issue out of warranty I am not touching it.
I think the crankcase ventilation valve is plugged. It's on the rear of the drivers side valve cover. Mine operates like a standard PCV valve on my 2018. I have 46K and not a hint of a leak, but I clean the PCV valve on mine every oil change. If the valve sticks shut, it will develop crankcase pressure and cause leaks.
Start the engine, remove the oil fill cap and hold a small sheet of paper over the oil fill opening. It should draw to the oil fill opening. If it doesn't, or is pushed away, you have a clogged crankcase ventilation system and/or an engine with a LOT of blowby.
@@swimfan1976 A squirt with carb cleaner will clean the valve. Does your engine have excessive oil consumption or blowby?
This is the comment I came here for. Your explanation is spot on! I just replaced the PCV valve on my 2008 Highlander's 2GR FE for the third time since owning it. I'm at 245K miles. I wish I did it sooner each time. I've had seepage from the timing cover (rear/left side) as well as a few spots around the valve covers, and also found a fair amount of oil in three of my spark plug wells (2 front, 1 rear). That's what triggered me to check my PCV valve - and it was sticky as hell, with limited movement. I'm hoping the new one will help the seepage issue.
No oil consumption between 6K changes other than the initial 3 or 4 ounce burnoff of additives at about 2 K miles. No blowby at all. I spent one solid month running from WV to NJ hauling a trailer full to capacity (3000 pounds including the trailer) back to WV, 1K miles round trip. Even that month I never burned any oil, and running at 70mph in 4th and 5th gear you are turning at least 3K all the time, and at times 5K. A strong engine whose horsepower and torque curves are way out of place in a truck.
@@honkie247 Much agreed about the power and torque curves. I've always love the 2GR FE in our Highlander off the line and 0-60 because it's a rocket. However, in practical situations, like regular 0-35 in city driving or maintaining highway speeds up long grades, there's no torque down low to maintain thrust without a gear or two kick-down. I didn't know how bad it was until my wife moved into a Mazda CX-5 Turbo. THAT thing hauls ass no matter the speed, gear, grade what not. That turbo torque is intoxicating!
@@InexplicableBill It is my understanding that the 4 liter V6 was a great engine in a truck. Unfortunately it was no longer available in 2018
The 2GR-FE and the 2GR-FKS both have the potential to develop this leak. It was reported that the 2016-17 Tacomas with the 2GR-FKS was more prone to develop this leak. Its a huge job to repair properly. Some folks may just want to live with it as it’s not a huge leak but a dribbler. Just keep an eye on the oil level. Or take your chances and have a dealership do this very labour intensive repair or sell it unfortunately.
Toyota told me $5200 labor .
@@Murphy007 wth thats insane.
It’s insane. Car care nut charges approx $2600.
Love my 2014 Tacoma with the 4.0L V6 1GR-FE engine and not planning on getting an new model anytime soon. So far no issues.
Milage? My 2014 has over 180k with no issues. Great little truck!
I've only got 49,000 on my 15 lol. Just bought it last year. Put 12k on it. So far, only small mods. Added a rear locker as well.
120k on my 2013 with the OV tune and full exhaust with no problems or leaks..
2016 tacoma had a lot of problems because it was the first year for the 3rd gen new engine.. Any thing 2018 and up seems to be solid. I have a 2018 with 60k no issues.
Also the car care nut channel haves a lot of info on his channel about the 3rd gen issues
Yes the 2016 & 2017 2GR-FKS did have a front timing cover leak on a few engines, you have to remember there were about 700,000 Tacomas sold but 2018 so you did have a handful that did leak . I have a buddy with a 2016 Tacoma 3.5L and he has 191k miles on it and no leaks . Regardless they shouldn’t leak period !! and I’m a Toyota guy and do own a 21 TRD Tacoma OR 4x4
It’s a hell a lot more than a handful.
Good work. I'm a loyal Toyota customer and once I owned one I never looked back. They are a good company and they have to be the best.
I have the same engine in my 2019 highlander. It was leaking oil from timing cover with only 37,000 miles. Luckily it was covered under powertrain warranty. So far so good…
My 2017 Tacoma had the same issue at 78,000 miles. The timing chain cover was leaking. It also had a coolant leak above the transmission. $5,800 repair at the dealer. Thank God I had the extended warranty thru my insurance.
That’s stupid, they know about the crossover leak on the back of the engine. Should be free regardless of miles or you having a warranty.
The 2016 Tacoma had many problems with oil leaks. By 2018 or 2019 those problems were mostly gone.
I'm driving the 4-cylinder engine 2.7 liter in my 2019 Tacoma. So far, no leaks.
The 2.7s don't seem to have as many issues as the 3.5s.
Have you driven a Tacoma 6 cylinder to compare it too? I'm wanting to buy a spare vehicle and want a single cab 4 cylinder but everything I've read says that the fuel economy is exactly the same between the 4 and 6 cylinder engines.
@@AdamVest I owned a 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder 2022. Very slight MPG difference but I got a little better in the 4 cylinder in real world. It is incredibly slow though and I'm much happier with the V6
I have 2017 sienna . Same engine. 154k. It sips oil just little bit in the bottom. Not that bad as this Tacoma. I have never seen a drop of oil on the ground. 10k miles oil changes. 60% highway miles. Same level between oil changes. Car care nut channel describes this problem cause it is notorious for first years of 2gr-fe, fse. The only thing I changed was water pump at 76k. They start to use new 808 aisin water pump instead of old 803 that was leaking. So far very good engine.
10,000 mile oil changes. Yikes. 😮
@@luptonpittman6520 again I don’t stay in traffic like Chicago or New York. I drive my car. Only use Toyota oil and filter. If I lived in New York with start stop traffic I would definitely change it 5000-7500 miles.
@Swim Fan average 30k a year. I only do Toyota oil and filter. Again I have lots of highway driving. No winter snow driving at all. No idling like NY or Chicago. If you drive start stop all the time definitely do 5000-7500 miles.
@Swim Fan I will keep it until it runs lol (300-500k)...no one who tells you to change oil every 5000 miles speak about the driving manner. 1500-2000 rpm all the time, short trips - that's what kills your engine. Even when you buy brand new car first 2000 miles you should drive your car different way....sometimes give the engine 4000;5000, 6000 rpm....that's how your make engine cilynder walls perfect surface ...every good motorist knows that. ....also when you high rev your engine it make your piston rings clean itself....
The right way to change your oil by motor hours ...( Average speed of your car multiply on 250-300 hours ...that's how long modern synthetic oil live ) ....so if you drive in New York city with a erage speed 10-20 mph you get 5000-6000 miles from your oil ....
I think our 8 speed trannies will die much sooner than this engine
I just completed this repair on a 2017 Taco with 80k miles. The rear main seal was leaking terribly, and I noticed the timing case was leaking as well. So I removed the engine and did the repair that way. I sure hope the front timing cover doesn't leak again, it was a bear to do in my driveway.
That's Toyota's new anti rust feature.
Beat me to it
😂
I had 2 2018 Tacomas. Sold them in bought a 2008 Lexus GX 470 with 100k miles. Best car decision I've ever made. GX is amazing for 1/3 of the price.
Why switch to an suv? By rights you should have bought a Tundra. Many of them have over 1 million miles on them
@Chuck Person life stage...owned Tacos for over 20 years...that's all I drove. It started to get cramped as a kid hauler plus I didn't like the 3rd gen as much as my prior 2nd and 1st Gen. Also, the GX was $13,750 as opposed to the $35k my Taco cost. I bought a small trailer for my ATV, so that also works for hauling "truck" stuff when needed. Lastly, no payments on the GX!!!
The 2UZ 1UZ and 3UZ are the greatest toyota engines ever made period.
Yeah...I've had the leak but just out of warranty and dont want to risk the flat rate tech that'll have to do it. Until its terrible and leaking on the driveway I'll just keep cleaning.
Why they changed from the 4.0 to that minivan motor is beyond me! For 1-2 mpg
They've slimmed down their engine options and gone to some version of the 3.5 in damn near everything. Even the tundra is a 3.5 now.
@@BrockOBauma No more special engines for trucks or the great V8's they used to produce, everything uses the 3.5. This is a problem that's tarnishing the brand. I've watched a warranty with the timing chain seal on a front wheel drive Lexus. It's a huge job requiring an engine drop to do correctly. I'll drive my first gen Tacoma with the 3.4l until I can drive no more and I'm sure it will last.
How is minivan duty any less demanding than Tacoma? Minivans are heavy af and often driven short distances, which is very hard for engines. Toyota is trying to maintain midsize pickup offering in the USA while EPA is killing small trucks with combustion engines. Consolidating engine platforms is good for servicing these cars in the next 10-20 years because these cars are already very complicated with very tight tolerances. It will be hard to find mechanics and machine shops with experience on every different one of them.
Leaking timing covers is a known issue in this engine. It’s a good engine but this was an assembly issue.
The techs didn’t do the job right. He should take it back or find a better dealer to fix it right.
The best money shots in the industry!
Glad my 2022 Tacoma has Toyota's bulletproof 2TR-FE 4 cylinder.
Except when the valves wear and the head needs rebuilding.
@@dadgarage7966 you've got the 2TR-FE mixed up with the 3RZ-FE.
@@4af Indeed. My apologies.
They just had a 2TR on this channel needing a new head gasket at less than 100k. I've seen 2 or 3 now
I really hate to say this but it's not a lemon.
It's actually a common issue and many Toyota Mechanics have been talking about too.
The 2GR-FKS engine have the exact same oil leaking issue as the 2GR-FE engine.
The 2GR-FE was known for oil leaking issue at the 3 point contact.
At "The Car Care Nut" youtube channel he explain about this issue about this 3 point contact area where the engine head, engine block and engine cover all meet up to contact each other.
That's where the oil leak is coming from and is a common known issue right at that 3 point contact.
The updated 2GR-FKS also have the exact same issue right at the exact same area at that 3 point contact.
Why didn't Toyota resolve this issue when they clearly knew about this issue is just crazy 😑 😒.
At "The Care Car Nuts" youtube channel he said that it is clearly a design flaw issue along with bad Toyota assembly crew not putting enough sealant when the engine was put together at the assembly line.
He said that as long as toyota continue to use this engine design theirs going to continue to be this issue.
He said that the best way and only way to fully fix this issue is to take the engine cover off and reseal it back on and make sure to put extra sealant right on to that three point contact area where the engine head, engine block and engine cover meet up.
And TOYOTA we know that you know that we know that you know of this issue so what's the deal.
Yep… and it doesn’t happen with every vehicle. The easy fix is right at assembly; just to make sure proper amounts of sealants are applied at that time.
Petr, The 4.0 V6 is a better truck engine.
100% they switched to this garbage for a couple mpg
I love my 2020 4R Off Road Premium 🙏
My 4.0 is at 180k. It runs great! Some 4.0 have 600k on them!
@@loveydovey4u km or miles
@@sonofliberty92 miles
FKS has a TSB for repair of this engine if certain fastener is soaked from engine leaking, but only for vehicles under warranty. Prior to my drivetrain warranty expiring, I checked on the engine and it looked good, I am guessing that I would do the same thing, nothing to the engine, just top it off, if I get a small leak. The FKS is just rust proofing itself.👌
I've seen many of the 3.5's with this issue. The front wheel drive models the engines have to be dropped out for this repair. This problem was ignored by Toyota for quite some time not sure if they've addressed it at this point.
Now Scared to look at my Lexus GS :lol:
@@alb12345672 The transverse mounted engine layout for front wheel drive models are a nightmare to work on. The correct wheel drive layouts might not require dropping the engine so much easier to work on. All one has to do is check under the hood and how these power plants are shoehorned into the compartment. Big money for mechanics terrible for the customer. Front wheel drives can only utilize power to a certain extent. Front wheels are for steering and control and a really inexpensive way to manufacture. If it's a leased vehicle then have at it.
@@djmjay2 My AWD GS is RWD, is like a Tundra drivetrain squished into a sedan :lol:. Not saying that makes much room. I also have a Lincoln Continental, it has a big 4.6L V8 that is transverse :lol:. Lucky it is a great engine.
My 07 RX AWD have to be dropped too.
@@joer.giallanza1845 It baffles me that Toyota would risk their reputation and not address this manufacture defect for so many years on an engine that is used extensively on all of their brands. The cost to warranty repairs especially on FWD models is costing them big money along with customer dissatisfaction. Some vehicles start to leak as early as 30k miles and the oil drips into the alternator which can not be good for it. I drive a 2003 Tacoma with the amazing 3.4L. It does have a timing belt that has to be replaced around 100k miles and a super simple engine which I do all servicing myself. I wouldn't switch to a timing chain OHC motor as when tensioners and chain need servicing it's way more expensive. Toyota has been aware of this 3.5 issue since right after it's launch and have ignored it. I guess hoping it won't start leaking until warranty is over. What a shame that will cost them money in sales in the end. My 3.4 will outlast me maybe I'll be buried in it.
My 2017 Toyota Sienna Se 2GR-FKS is seeping oil at the main bearing seal with only 35K miles. Toyota blames the tech who installed it.
The 2nd gen Tacoma is way more reliable than the 3rd gen. Now, my 2016 has almost 90k on it and she’s been perfect so far, which isn’t to say I won’t have silly problems like this in the future.
These 3rd gens seem to have really random issues.
I have a first gen with 3.4 and 140k miles. It's an amazing rig
Gen2 Tacomas are also known to have front timing cover leak , I would by far rather have 2GR-FKS out of the 2 . Better on fuel & much more power , I have both and hardly drive the Gen2 , but that’s just me …
I mean, survivors bias my dude. Petr doesn't get perfect vehicles brought in to him.
I have a 2017 v6 taco with 155k kms (~100k mi). Engine has been flawless. I bought it ex-lease from my roommate at 100k kms. Only issue is has ever had has been an overfilled transfer case... when the dealer swapped all my fluids before I took possession.
All gens had their hiccups. I will say the best compromise was probably the 3.4L v6 in the 1st gen taco. Shit on fuel, ok power, but very reliable. Given my taco experience, I prefer the fuel efficiency of the 3.5L to the 4.0L power. But I drive stick, so I don't notice the slight reduction in ponies... just pick the correct gear.
The 3.5 is ok but it will cost more to maintain than the 4.0 because it is quite a bit more complex. Double the injectors, more complex VVT, etc. but it does burn quite a bit less fuel than the 4.0 so there’s the trade off
I have a 15 highlander. No leaks.
What is that corrosion on fill tube ?
I will stick with my 2.7 four cyl.
2GR engines are notorious for leaks. I have 2GR-FE from 2007 and it had many leaks. Problem is 2GR-FKS is a 10 year newer version and TOYOTA DİDNT IMPROVE ANYTHING!
Noticed cars with Synthetic oil leak more,I use conventional oil on my old cars & trucks ! No oil leaks!
@Paul my cars are old they use 5w-30w or 5w-20w.
There is no conventional oil option for these newer cars and trucks. Some of them use 0-W8 now. insane.
This is from dealers over filld in purpose .
at 2:25 what is that line that is crimped?
oh, looks like wiring, but still kind of funky looking
Lot of people have issues with the 3rd gen. People are just embarrassed to talk about it.
Unless it is dripping on the ground, or smoking from oil getting to the exhaust system, I would forget about it. If it bothers you, invest in a roll of expensive paper towels and wipe away in there. Old tee shirts work great too. You are talking about a tiny amount of oil, unless it reaches the ground. In the Northern US Rust Belt, they spray the entire bottom of the vehicle with old oil and other oily chemicals to retard rusting. If you do not do it, most vehicles have to be scrapped after about 10 years, due to rusting from salt used to melt ice on the roads. That gets expensive.
I see that Bloomberg TV is reporting that scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory are about to report the first fusion of hydrogen atoms which released more energy than needed to operate the lasers used to force the hydrogen atoms to combine into helium atoms. I always thought that if it could ever be done, lasers would probably be the way to do it. Of course, making constant electricity like that could prove impossible, or be too expensive to afford. Some of the things they are doing with lasers today are amazing. And to think, they are only 62 years old, with the first working one being demonstrated in California by Theodore Maiman working at the Hughes Research Lab. Now satellites in orbit are talking to each other through laser beams !
Possibly a “flat rate” workmanship issue????
Done twice under warranty????
If it’s a design issue, the manufacturer needs to step up and make good on repairs. . (My opinion)
Over 200,000 miles while chasing birds! They are probably feathered birds, but it would be impressive if he drove 200,000 miles just to get women!
I don’t trust my 3rd Gen Tacoma like I do my 5th Gen 4Runner
This is sad. Please, toyota engineers, don't ruin the brand reputationn your predecessors forged.
Although the trucks are now assembled in Mexico, aren’t the engines still made in the USA?
yes they are!
This might be the internal TURBO that's been engineered into this engine by using the lower friction piston rings.
Lower friction equates to more blow-by and higher positive crankcase pressures.
Probably exasperated during many closed-throttle responses.
exacerbated..
Here is the procedure to correctly repair this timing cover leak:
th-cam.com/video/RMvjhUVjyc0/w-d-xo.html
thanks for posting the link
-222 Oh, my my!
2016 is when they started building them in Mexico.
they been building them before that, they renewed the facility for the 3rd gen tacoma
This is NAMBLA…….
Toyota is turning into GM.
That would be sad. Unfortunately quality seems to be slipping.🤯
Not even close. Don't you ever put them in the same category. Lol.
I can’t even listen to this guys voice. I think that’s laughable to even call a leak 🤣😂
Looks like the valve covers are plastic along with the oil filter housing, the 2gr-fe it’s aluminum valve covers with aluminum oil filter housing
Built in Baja California Mexico?
Doesn't matter.
@@sonofliberty92 it actually does.
@@heyitschinoable no, it actually doesn't.
@@heyitschinoable makes zero difference.