What's the Deal With Ichigo's 'HORN OF SALVATION' Form? | Bleach TYBW Discussion
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Ichigo vs Yhwach features a brand new transformation - the 'Horn of Salvation'! But what's it all about? Let's take a look!
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Ichigo's final transformation in Bleach is the 'Horn of Salvation' - the result of him being a perfect hybrid! But what's the deal with this form? How does it work, and where can Ichigo go from here? Let's take a look!
Chapters:
Intro - 00:00
Form Overview - 04:15
Visual Design Discussion - 10:19
Sponsor - 13:06
A Glimpse of Power - 19:32
The End and The Beginning - 28:13
What is this Form? - 31:11
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What did you think of Ichigo's 'Horn of Salvation' form? Could it evolve even further in the future? Let me know!
The horns of salvation.
I always wondered if the balance could be tipped in the other direction and then old man zangetsu would come out. He's technically a shikai spirit now
This is my least favorite form we see of him. Really the whole final arc choices with him for me were pretty poor. Very few actually meaningful fights for him. His Fullbring design which for me is the best design of all of them is swept aside so quickly after he gets it. Then We see pretty much nothing from his Shikai and even less from his Bankai. I would say Aside from the Ishida, and the Vizards, Ichigo gets sidelined to much. Overall I wasn't really satisfied with what little we get. I honestly can't even think of a single positive thing that happens with his character after everything but the rain.
Is it stronger than mugetsu?
I think it can considering this is a like a test phase or beta version of this power.
Im hoping for the anime what they do with ichigos bankai is that after he activates it, him and Yhwach have a full fight with it showing everything and ending with Ichigo managing to kill Yhwach and then like everything turning black and white turning to static with the scene then transitioning to Yhwachs eyes and zooming out, Showing everything that happened was from Yhwach looking into the future of what happens if he doesn't stop ichigos bankai immediately, Then going to what happened in the manga of Yhwach destroying the bankai. Since i do think the scene of Yhwach destroying the bankai is a great thing showing his full might but disrespects ichigo far to much, Of course this also with extensions to the horn of salvation fight previously and the ending itself changing.
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This
I agree with the whole ideia but I feel like having him fully defeat Yhwach just to then come back would feel bad at least for anime onlys, Yhwach actual defeat later would feel less cathartic, it wouldn't feel like "seeing God bleed for the first time" because the audience would've had already seen that. Maybe cut back a little bit before that would be better. Having Ichigo fully showcasing his true power while showing Yhwach legitimately struggling would be enough and would feel less plot manipulation (although that's quite literally what the Almighty does lol)
i kinda liked that his bankai got oneshot tho :c
@@The_Aleph_Null Would still get one shot but just this time we'd get to see what Yhwach saw that made him go "I need to deal with that fucking thing NOW"
I just love that Ichigo is never surprised by these new forms. He's never like "Oh man I got a horn growing out of my skull!"
He's just like, "Cool....okay! Ban...kai!"
That’s not the 1st time he used it so why would any of that happen? Obviously he used it off screen. The time we saw it he literally wouldn’t be surprised. Orhimie did that for us
ichigo's chill attitude towards his new forms is pretty rad, no time for surprises, just ready to kick butt with his bankai.
This form is the best but more importantly him reassuring Orihime that he's still Ichigo was an important and effective moment especially given her past memories of Hollow Ichigo's rampage with Ulquiorra. It was a heartwarming moment before battle and foreshadowed their relationship more so.
Didn't like this form at all. The hollow is a key part of his bankai. Orihime needs to learn to embrace the hollow just like Ichigo does
@@thrilla72she's not supposed to imo. She represents the cycle of his mom being proficient in battle but not needing to embrace darkness like he does.
It's more interesting to see him accept his hollow, and her finally feeling safe too because of that than for them to be of the same beast. At least to me and Kubo lol
@@thrilla72man chill, she got HUGE PTSD of the people she loves the most turning into rampaging horrendous animalistic monsters, one of which literally chewed her.
yeah, that moment between Ichigo and Orihime was heartwarming and foreshadowed their relationship.
@@thrilla72are you dumb?
My favorite form of Ichigo. The name alone “Horn of Salvation”, is just such an awesome concept and matches perfectly for the form. To think we saw a version of this form all the way back agaisnt Ulquiorra. Sometimes I forget this form isn’t even his true bankai.
I think it's supposed to signify that even if he uses more power, it's been purified. And like a rallying cry, a literal horn, possibly for more vaizard, arrancar and hollow to unify against a new threat. It's great writing to me
yeah, "Horn of Salvation" is a sick name for Ichigo's form. it's cool how we got a glimpse of it against Ulquiorra. and you're right, it's not even his true bankai.
This form better give him the strongest hierro and high speed regeneration just like when he is in vasto lorde form against Ulquiorra. Cause if not, what the horn and hollow hole for?
In one panel ichigo block Ywach attack with his forearm without taking damage, it might be hit blut vene or hierro, or combined, it would be awesome if he has all those traits becoming the culmination of the his Trifecta Powers
yeah, it would be awesome if Ichigo's new form combines his Trifecta Powers and gives him the strongest hierro, high-speed regeneration, and other cool abilities.@@rafflesiadeathcscent3507
It's the same form Merged Tensa Zangetsu had.
My theory is that the "Horn of Salvation" form is supposedly his resurreccion. If a resurreccion unleashes a hollow's true form and power, then it makes sense that Ichigo would look like that, a form reminiscent of the fusion between Young Man Zangetsu and White Zangetsu... cuz that's the true essence of Ichigo's power, a combination of everything, hence why his resurreccion takes on that form.
The only reason I don’t necessarily agree with this is because in a separate panel with kubo, he revealed ichigo and the vizards are capable of using resurrection. When resurrection is used, the zanpakuto disappears.
@@gammafrost And that would be the case if not for the fact that Ichigo is obviously different from your standard hollow, or shinigami, or even a quincy.
cool theory, Ichigo's "Horn of Salvation" form resembling a fusion of Young Man Zangetsu and White Zangetsu does make sense, representing the true essence of his power.
Starting to see at different level. Gives more of interesting fact of this form. Quite same of duo version or Ichigo's dangai training zangetsu version.
cool, different levels add interesting facts, like duo versions or Ichigo's dangai training zangetsu version.@@farhanlabib-kc7ud
I wonder if he will have the vocal effect used whenever he uses his hollow mask. Or maybe they'll just keep his normal voice. Looking forward to see how this form is adapted when we eventually get to this point in the anime.
Theory on Ichigo’s True Power: Future Negation
I think the only true counter to The Almighty is Ichigo’s unnamed power which I’ll call “Future Negation” until a more suitable name is found. In the source material, Yawach says that Ichigo’s power is very similar to Orihime’s, and her power is the rejection of phenomena. I think “Future Negation” is the rejection of futures/fates/destinies that oppose Ichigo’s will or sincere desires, and in TYBW it is to defeat Yhwach and save Soul Society (and by extension the World of the Living and Hueco Mundo; the opposite of Yawach’s goal). Yawach felt like he had to repeatedly break Tensa Zangetsu because he was trying to prevent the full power of “Future Negation” from activating due to Ichigo’s true Bankai abilities. This ability is dangerous to Yawach because although The Almighty gives him the ability to see “all futures”, I believe he realized that “Future Negation” nips The Almighty at the bud by eliminating the number of futures he has to chose from(specifically any futures which result in the accomplishment of his goals because they are diametrically opposed to Ichigo’s). It makes Ichigo’s eventual victory a foregone conclusion because there isn’t a future Yawach can choose that doesn’t ultimately result in his own defeat; “Future Negation” has already eliminated any future where Ichigo’s desire to defeat Yawach and save Soul Society isn’t realized. If true, Kubo has essentially canonized plot armor and made it the most powerful/broken ability in the Bleach universe.
I fyck wit yo theory I personally think everyone should read or watch the show fully at least 5 times because Kubo explains everything jus not wen u want him to I believe that is exactly ichgo’s Quincy power almost like uryidu Kubo explain that wit the tru introduction of the Quincy an how they work he even show u that wit ichgo mom how her personality was a protector but she couldn’t protect herself an wat was said about her Quincy power she had the strongest blut ever seen… ichgo always wanted wat can be said normal to be rite as we his character never tried to force his views or believe on any one he jus wanted ppl to keep their problems with the person they gotta problem wit an kill ppl who did nothing wrong
It makes sense for him to have the only power to counter the almighty . Plus it would shoutout to the fact that Ichigos power awakens orihimes and it could be a setup to say orihime got the most closet power to him due to their “love”. She has reality rejection and he has reality negation.
I always saw it as Ichigo becoming more like an arrancar when releasing his hollow powers seeing he doesn't have a mask anymore. I also like to think he only used halve of his hollow powers.
Well Kubo said it's possible for Ichigo and the vizard to have their own Ressurecion. Maybe this form is it.
Wow that's really cool 😮
Even more than just the vizards he was asked if they and ichigo could use both bankais and resurrection at once and he said yes though there is a question of is this hollowfication or resurrection
I've always thought full hollow Ichigo is his resurreccion. Because the hole in his chest was healed just like other resurreccion heal the injury of arrrancars.
@@umarabdazizyou answered your own Question he just transformed into a full Hollow that's it that's how fucking OP His Hollow form is it isn't even at its full potential eben when it was 1/3 fighting against a full powered Ulqiorra with 2nd ressurecion.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871remember how its mentioned that Ichigo's cloak in bankai shows how much reiatsu he has left? Look how much his vasto lorde form has left
Okay seriously I really hope the anime, either in cour 3 or 4, expand more of Ichigo’s horn of salvation and an actual complete reveal of his true bankai, and a more improved look. Because he was done dirty at the end of the final fight.
What they need to do is let the Bankai fight play out. Then what they can do is reveal that Yhwach had used the All Mighty to see the whole fight in the future. And then he brakes Ichigo’s Bankai because he sees Ichigo kill him in the future.
Either that or let him use his Bankai to its fullest after it’s fixed again and before the magic arrow head that stops all of Yhwach powers for a second is shot.
I don’t think yhwach can fight against ichigo bankai since every single time ichigo launched an attack at him in bankai it killed him instantly and that is without the extra enhancement of horn of salvation
Kind of similar to how ichibei was literally flexing his way through yhwachs attacks and yet went down instantly with the almighty but even worse since ichigo power is much more suited for straight up fight instead of endless debuffs of power
Basically same reason he activates the almighty as soon as ichgio even slightly is able to push him despite being able to break the grand ray getsuga with his bare hands and spends the rest simply trolling ichigo instead of like insta killing orhime or ichgio
yeah, ichigo's horn of salvation deserves more screen time and a complete reveal of his true bankai. he got done dirty in the final fight. fingers crossed for the anime to do him justice.
I always thought that eventually Ichigo would have eventually evolved this form to have both horns. Also perhaps if he did this process with the smaller blade, he’d be showing Quincy powers instead. Or similar to the light novels, maybe if Ichigo called a different release command depending on which power set he wants he’d get a different release.
I like to imagine the other blade would give him a volstandig
I was saying a similar thing. By the time we get to the hell arc, I suspect he’ll have both horns.
@@giovan483I always did feel ichigo would have his own unique Quincy form but not necessarily a vollstandig since that form only comes directly from ywach.
cool ideas, ichigo evolving his form with both horns or showcasing Quincy powers could be epic. different release commands for different power sets would add an interesting twist.
@@gammafrostFair point. Call me moronic but I always loved 2 horned mask tenza - zangusto full shahawkso double horned form.
I like this form it is one of my favorite forms. It really feels like a culmination of Ichigo's powers and character
If I was to make a guess, I'd say this is a partial Resurreccion. Ichigo was trying to draw out his Hollow power but doesn't have enough control over the individual parts to fully do so. He's just gotten to the point of equilibrium, so separating those powers once again is probably very difficult to do. As to why he's using Hollow? Well, he IS going against the ultimate Quincy at this point, and we know that Hollow Reiatsu is toxic to them.
So, the way I see it, Ichigo has altered the state of his power thanks to forging Zangetsu with both spirits. Therefore, the 'Shinigami' power becomes the central state in which he channels the other powers as well. This is likely why his Bankai is comprised of all three of his powers. However, he should also have the ability to draw upon the separate aspects of power as well. Theoretically, Ichigo has access to his Resurreccion form as well as a Vollstandig form that could each be incorporated into his Shingami state. So, he should be able to use a combined Shinigami/Hollow form or a combined Shingami/Quincy form with them taking on the aspects of the individual spirit. However, because of Ichigo forging the other aspects of his power into his Shinigami power, I don't think Ichigo has a straight Shingami form.
Also he has more experience with hollow power would be another reason as well as hollow is all about instinct where Quincy is a bit more training
I find the vollstandig form very unlikely since the sternritter only got this after being granted power directly from ywach. I definitely feel ichigo probably has his own unique Quincy forms similar to the ones in brave souls.
Reminds me of Ichigo being as a pokemon💀
I think “Horn of Salvation” is like a video game transformation or “buff” that can be activated for bonus power/powers
I think this form is awesome. It represents all of Ichigo's powers working synergistically. It bears a strong resemblance to merged tensa zangetsu, having complete mastery of Quincy, Hollow, and Shinigami, and Fullbring powers.
I love that ichigo has a butt load of abilities but we only ever think of the one or two getsuga attacks 😂 nvm the fact he has a zillion forms and nearly a handful of variations on his released states. His abilities have conditions to meet as a form of balancing him, like Isshin's bankai, but it's applied to the facets of his soul instead of just his bankai. Whenever the hell arc happens, I'll be curious to see the spin on his mastery or absence of those abilities, as he clearly is in a different, more subdued form of his base again.
I really think that the chaotic look of the HoS transformation just comes from it being new and incomplete. in the grand timeline of bleach, Ichigo has known that he is part Quincy for all of 45 seconds and I think that contributed to him choosing not to try to use those powers in this fight, at first. He's more comfortable and using his hollow/soul reaper powers and how they work, so he decides to lean on them instead of mixing in the Quincy. I bet that if he let himself draw more on his Quincy powers, the form would look more solid and put together. In the end, he even says he really can't use this form well yet, so that tells me that what we see isn't "right" it's just what he can do at the moment.
I would go as far to say, that if a transformation isn't using all of his traits, it isn't complete at all because he's a natural hybrid so he shouldn't have to switch between powers like a Vizord, all of his powers should be mixed into one pool that he can always use. HE may not be good at it yet, which causes an uneven mix, but just like baking a cake, once he gets the ratio of ingredients to balance out, I don't think we will see HoS again because we will see what HoS is SUPPOSED TO BE!
U seem to be 1 of the only ppl that get it
My opinion about Dangai Ichigo is this: the Dangai Ichigo we saw in Deicide was the pinnacle of the power Ichigo had at his disposal at the time, and Ichigo has long since eclipsed that level of power. That being said, if Ichigo did it again, I'm sure that form would be the strongest thing in the Bleach cosmos.
I don't know how this isn't obvious to everyone else. Ichigo just did a bit of Jinzen for a few months and went to fight Aizen. Literally nothing extraordinary in the least. EoS Ichigo actually had extraordinary upgrades by the Royal Guard that made Renji go from bottom tier Captain level to making senior Captains look like chumps, with Shikai alone to make the power up even more absurd; and had an authentic Zanpakuto forged for the very first time. Ichigo fought Aizen with a pretend Bankai.
No to mention that TYBW Ichigo already had a massive head start over Ichigo before the Jinzen training: Fullbring Bankai Ichigo was exponentially stronger than FKT Ichigo's peak. We know this because Ginjo confused the air pressure produced by the normal swing of a sword from Ichigo's FB Shikai to be an upgraded version of Fullbring Ichigo's Getsuga, which was estimated by Tsukishima to have reattained the level of mixed powers Ichigo had in FKT arc.
there are a few things that kubo says that make me think he can activate all at once.
he has stated that just like tosen, the visored's can activate an arancar state with enough training.
ichigo has activated sonido and blut vein in the same battle.
my theory is that this is his "arancar form" and eventually we can see him layer on quincy powers like blut vein, sklaverei, or maybe even a voldstandig. I don't see him nanifesting a bow just because his "range" is already covered by getsuga tensho, but it could manifest as a different form like quige's did
I've never cared all that much for this form. It looks alright, but as you've said in the past, it's a little messy and I think it doesn't feel very cohesive. It looks like it's just multiple forms of Ichigo mashed together. Hopefully we see what that form does in the future
Great work as always, but I also wanted to say Thank you for verbalizing how amazing orihime’s reaction is. When I first saw the fight and saw her reaction I could feel her fear and panic right away and like you said, a perfect example of showing and not telling. So once again thank you for that 😅
For me, the hollow side of Ichigo's face is Zangetsu smiling as Ichigo willingly activated his hollow powers showing he really accepted him as his Zanpakuto.
I think the horn of salvation is supposed to be his manifestation of how merged tensa zangestu looked while he was trying to learn final gestuga. Kubo I was foreshadowing this form and we didn’t even know it
I prefer this look for his bankai/shikai it fits him just like I wish in Naruto ( baryon mode look) would of been his kcm look
I've always seen/treated it as the physical embodiment of every single power that Ichigo has, like everything mixed into 1 being..
seeing ichigo with his golden iris on the black eye really make it stand out how much his hollow eye looks like Yhwach's golden eyes that float on the darkness covering him but where ichigos power is all internalized as part of him Yhwach can only wear the power having taken it for himself. so it makes me wonder if that is actually a representation of his hollow powers or if its a signifier of using a power similar to that of the soul king in some way. just something i noticed while looking at the two.
its interesting that ichigos sword kinda becomes his other horn as hes able to launch cero by touching the horn and blade together and he needed both horns to do that in vasto lorde form. in the future it would be cool to see ichigo having trained with Uryu or another quincy to master that side of himself and it looks like the brave souls 7th anniversary design
I remember thinking at the time that Ichigo's Bankai could be something that has four forms, similar to Yamamoto West, East, South and North. I always thought that Ichigo's could be related to the phases of the moon, and each form would be a different mix of his powers. In my imagination when mixed together Quincy power would be related to his defence like blut, Shinigami related to the getsuga heritage, Hollow would be his increased speed and full bring his hability to wear his powers like a suit.
So in this fight he's using a mixture off everything. He has some sort of full bring armor, he has the horn and the body marks of a hollows and the Shinigami of course. But he didn't use any Quincy blut. So I think he could be even better. In fact, he could protected his Bankai from braking using some sort of blut. That would be nice.
I also like to think that maybe his Bankai form was somesort of oldman zangetsu trick to escape from Ywachs prophecies/dreams.
I don't think that is his ultimate sword form. I like to believe he can change it like the rest
I’m still betting on Ichigo saying “Bleach Tensa Zangetsu”.
I would state that you forget he's human and fullbringer which I imagine to be the glue holding the mix together and keeping the hollow and quincy parts from destroying each other
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I wanna see Ichigo actually pull forth each side of his power to see what he looks like.
HoS would be hollow
Mugetsu could be shinigami
But what would his quincy power look like... or his human/fullbring side?
I mean bleach brave souls the mobile game kinda made a design based on that concept, i don’t remember if Kubo designed in some shape or form but it’s the closest thing of what you just said
@@angelcarrasco7801 true. And I've seen those. But it would be dope if we see some of them brought back in the hell arc if kubo actually goes through with it
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He’s a hollowfied soul reaping Quincy soldier and by learning his full heritage, his Horn of Salvation form probably came from him harnessing all the powers that he now has at his disposal.
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I would like if ichigo's horn of salvation when mastered either inverts his colors or adds a white coat resembling that of a captains haori and maybe a more sinister version of the combat pass on the back where a barracks symbol would be
i want to see a complete form with all of his powers in balanced and merged together as one for the hell arc rather than him just choosing which one he wants to use by going to a hollow influenced form or a quincy influenced one
Why not both? Have Ichigo have forms that have different aspects of him be brought to the forefront and then have a final one where they are all brought out at once.
@@wildstorm3486 oh for sure, i'm 100% down with that, i don't mind him having the separate forms, i just want that final complete one too
@@metalface_villain ah that makes sense.
Only remembering diferenty of the vizards Ichigo is no fused with an hollow, Ichigo soul is part hollow, the vizards never merged their soul with the hollow Aizen fused them, but Ichigo is not merged with anything, we can say that Ichigo, and his sisters, are the result of shinigame/human having offprings with quincy/hollow.
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I think the reason Kubo decided to make Yhwach destroy Ichigo Bankai is because he probably was so burnt out that he couldn't come up with a look, power, and abilities that properly showcases Ichigo omnipotent power that he has. You can tell because of how little he showed of Ichigo HOS form. This is why I'm excited for the anime to expand of this fight and I hope we get to see why Yhwach was shooked of his Bankai.
I can see if the New Breaths from Hell arc is animated and/or is finished in the manga Ichigo could train with Uryu and learn more of his Quincy power and more power would be displayed there and like you said his Quincy power may not do anything to Ywhach but may have a part in Hell (?) or hopefully in the anime it’s flushed out and he speaks with both Zangetsu teaching him his power as he battles
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We've seen the form that favors his quincy side more in the moments before using mugetsu. He takes on Yhwach's long dark hair and red eyes and even vaguely resembles that cloak of soul king reiatsu. He activated that form by pouring ALL of his reiatsu into it. At the time, though, he had no access to quincy reiatsu, so he was pouring in shinigami and hollow reiatsu, just like he poured in quincy reiatsu to activate horn of salvation.
Here’s how I see it. His horn of salvation form is insanely powerful yet still incomplete which is why he only has the one horn when he faces ywach. When we get to the hell arc, I heavily speculate he will have both horns with the black pattern on his right eye too and it’ll look a bit different. Maybe ichigo would have even learned resurrection like kubo said he and the vizards could.
I was just about to say this about it still being incomplete
Ichigo is literally JUST able to use this form Voluntarily
@@SmoothBlkexactly. Even by the time of the final battle, ichigo is still a newbie with his powers. In the hell arc, that will be ichigo at his peak because he would have had 12 years to master his new form and Bankai.
@@gammafrost Exactly; By that time he should be able to make a Arrow Mixed with a Cero, use Bankai plus Ressurection at the same time, Blut Vene plus Heirro... Mix Shunpo, Sonido and Quincy movement all at once... It's almost limitless what he can do in his universe
I actually like the idea that Ichigo could use variable forms depending which of his powers he would set as "Primary" then the rest of his powers would ride with it.
I really hope in the coming cour 3 and 4 they would greatly expand the storyline and highlight more of Ichigo's powers
Maybe he'll change form dependant on the reitsu he absorbs. Say to counter it. Hollow form to counter Quincy. Shinigami form to counter Hollow. Quincy form to counter shinigami.
I see the horn of this form being a broken mask fragment making this form an Arrancar version of Ichigo's hollow mask as the horn was similar to merged form of zangetsu who had a horn with a bit of a mask fragment.
If the anime ever reveal Ichigo’s true and complete bankai form, I hope he takes on a similar form like the final getsuga tenso. It’s technically all of Ichigo’s power combined
That form is in truth an technique not Ichigo fullpower
@gabrielrasilva it kind of is. It's throws all of his riatsu into a single attack costing him his powers. I'd assume his TRUE mugetsu would actually look different as well since it would be a balanced form
That’s the definition of a technique not a form an is proven by who told him about it
@@mbbbeezy8997 yes I was aware it was a technique, but mind you all the power behind said technique was Ichigo's power as a hybrid. And if it was just a mere technique why bother to transform.
it makes you wonder if he'll have a form that's a combination of soul reaper, hollow and quincy
the way i never put together the part where this explains why white has appeared in the past is wild... mr. tommo strikes once again
You make a good point about the Hollow-prioritized form. While it points to an interesting possibility of Ichigo having separate forms based on what power he prioritizes, it might point to something else.
After Yhwach made Ichigo kill the Soul King, Ichigo seemingly stopped actively using Old Man Zangetsu. He used both Zangetsu when fighting Bambietta's squad, but immediately after killing Reio he started only using White. He never uses a Getsuga from Old Man Zangetsu again as well, only seen using it from White's blade. He does still use it, but only as a physical blade, seemingly not drawing on the Old Man's power. Even when combining the two to form Tensa Zangetsu, it is Hollow-dominant, and underneath is the traditional form of Zangetsu.
It is almost as if, after Yhwach used his Quincy power to make him "kill" Reio, Ichigo subconsciously or consciously distanced himself from his Quincy power, even to the point he used Yhwach's reiatsu to awaken this form. Even if he says he's not good at it (it is a new ability for him), it is still possible Ichigo's trust in his Quincy power was shaken to the point he subconsciously did not draw on it again.
We don't even know if it will ever come up again, since Yhwach stole Ichigo's power, including his Quincy and Hollow power. I do not know how much of CFYOW is definitive canon aside from the Original Sin (now in the anime), as it was stated Ichigo's power returned to him, but it must mean something that Zangetsu was kept in the original single blade form in the Hell Arc, and not split apart again.
Hmm if I remember correctly. I do believe that the single for shikai in the hell arc chapter was explained as Ichigo can decide if he wants his Shikai to be one blade or two.
It’s his choice. So in the He’ll arc chapter he wanted to use one Blade. And if he ever wanted to use both Blades he simply just needs to will it.
I think the fangs on his face were just an artistic flourish by Koubo not an actual change in form. His blood being spattered on his face which is just coincidentally reminiscent of the hollow teeth
16:46 just hitting her with the bankai name coming out of nowhere. good chuckle
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ive been watching your old chapter reviews and man you was a savage lol
I disagree that we didn't know about the quincy side until the last Arch. The first scene when Ichigo is in his bed the bed spread is the quincy symbol that uryu was wearing back then
Although I may be a little late but that's a nice haircut my friend. Always enjoyed the videos. As far as Ichigo's form, I feel as though they will add to the HOF form whenever he taps into his powers. So, in addition to the horn, they may give him black hair as well as the horn to showcase his power set
Dangai/Mugetsu Ichigio was him at his peak, and I have yet to meet anyone who can convince me otherwise.
I hope this form changes a bit in the anime. I hope he gets both horns and black stripes down both sides of his face resembling the last form his mask took into a more complete combination look. Presumably it looks this way because he hasn’t mastered it yet.
Two things one great video as always and two cool to see you and your wife doing an ad together very wholesome my wife and I loved it ❤
It’s so wholesome watching y’all review products. This the only channel that I watch the sponsored segment
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What if Ichigo only fought against Hollow Ichigo in his bankai world, and the old man zangetsu did not fuse with him?!
It'd be interesting if he tapped more into the Quincy side you would see Ichigo with a totally different set of abilities, such as a bow/shrift
Dangai Ichigo is him accepting the hollow powers in more of an "I have these powers now and I'm not getting rid of them so I have to accept them" sort of way, whereas after The Blade is Me he knows that those powers were always his and it wasn't a failure on his part to not awaken his shinigami powers in time to avoid losing his soul chain and becoming a hollow.
Also, Dangai Ichigo isn't consciously aware of the quincy powers he possesses either. So, while he's fused with his zanpakto, there's still some level of separation there. That implies that his true strength could be higher than that if he is capable of truly calling upon all of it at the same time. He just needs experience to get used to it.
I like to think that some of Ichigo's exclusive forms from Brave Souls are him tapping into other powers/combinations. His "Beyond Bankai" form that came out with Byakuya's is is true Shinigami/Hollow Bankai. The recent form that came out with Uryu's new form is his Quincy form. Finally, the anniversary form that came out before these (black robe/reishi bow/hollow arm) is his full triple hybrid form.
27:41 watch them do like a flashback into the future of him using it and then cut back to him shattering it
33:20 wait a minute. Isn't Fullbringer not in his repertoire for Mugetsu too? I mean him realizing that power changed his bankai's form so it seems like an addition as well. And those powers arent necessarily Zangetsu dependent
New cut and full unbox? Absolutely GOATed
Ichigo vs the bambi's was Top tier!!
I'm saying this in response to when your wife asked about your favorite fight lol. Keep up these videos man, your Bleach content is top tier as well.
The red eyes the Quincy esque final shot of mugestu definitely a combination of Quincy and shinigami with Hollow being repressed
Excellent video as always, for me this form is Ichigo who releases his power by giving priority to the Shinigami-Hollow powers and embodying them in himself, the Quincy powers as he says he only uses them to balance the others otherwise it would go out of control, so I would say Shinigami-Hollow 80% and Quincy 20% as usage. I would be very curious to see a video brought by you that analyzes the form of Ichigo New Year 2019 from Bleach Brave Souls, for me that is the perfect form with its 3 powers harmonized in unison and I also find it very beautiful visually and in terms of skill.
I don't know if anyone said this but this makes me wonder if bleach brave souls Quincy Ichigo is the representation of his soul repear and Quincy powers. That would be cool as we see his quincy abilities and his final getsuga tensho
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His Horn of Salvation Bankai is so strong, it made Bach immediately get serious and drop everything in order to give him that ONE future possibility to survive.
(Bet you like 9,9998/10,000 outcomes came to Bach’s eyes featuring his defeat with HoS Bankai)
I just know Hollow Ichigo/Zangetsu was having the time of his life fighting side by side with Ichigo for the first time.
i was listening to the video in the background of dnd prep as number one was playing in the game on roll20 i thought it was the video XD
I would really like a video on Ichigo's development.
We know for sure there’s a quincy form like horn of salvation we just never saw it. The way ichigo body works his his right side is filled with the mix of hollow and shinigami reatsui while his left is quincy, what happened was the right side was overcharged with quincy reatsu so the mix of hollow and shinigami started to go to his left side enche why more black marks and the hollow horn appear on the left and not the right. On the contrary if ichigo was overcharged with either hollow or shinigami reatsui the opposite would happen, his quincy left side would start to go to his right side and create the quincy transformation we never saw. Personaly I think this quincy form would look very similar to mugetsu since in it ichigo has long black hair and red eyes looking kinda like Yhwach which would make perfect sense that a quincy transformation like that would take visual elements from the king
The Horn of Salvation is my favorite form, on par with Dangai Ichigo. I’m planning to cosplay as the HOS soon
Final Getsuga Tensho is the form that resembles Old Man Zangetsu, Horn of Salvation is the form that resembles his Zangetsu the Hollow
Remember Kisuke Urahara said Hollow is the counter to Quincy and Poison to Quincy.
11:40 nice point. that's why ulquiorra 2nd resurrection doesnt have mask
Love the hair cut bro
I feel like this form is just his shikai ability. His shikai ability allows him to use hollow powers which he needs his Quincy powers to active
Man the Getsuga Cero is gonna sound insane in the anime.
It is said that quincy and hollow are polar opposites, so probably Ichigo could only do a combination of shinigami x hollow or shinigami x quincy. Also, i can see that his quincy abilities gives him a defence boost while hollow gives him an offence boost.
Hey! I just want to point out that his 3 powers were introduced at the same time as him getting his powers back but not through Jwh but through his visage.
He had arrows on him, the mask and the Shihakusho
Fullbringer powers came from hollows, so what is the effect of combining that power with a true hollow? Ichigo fusion with his shinigami powers but i wonder if also affects in some capacity to his hollow side.
Big fan of your videos. Got a question for you…if all of squad 0 was gone, who would you want to replace them. Thought it was be a interesting video for you to talk about
very cool video, but I have to disagree at 34:56. The mugetsu is when Ichigo prioritizes his quincie power, which bears resemblance to Yhwach's long black hair and red eyes.
This form seems cool, but really is just a stepping stone for things to come
I love this form but i agree is alittle messily design similer to Rengis true bankai the fact that he only hes one horn has kind if always aggrivated me i know he only has one horn and one hollow eye to represent that his hollow/ shinigami powers are only half of his power and his other side suppose to i guess represent his quincy but if i myself could redesign it i would give him 2 hollow eyes and 2 horns to represent his hollow as well as the long hair from his hollow form and i would also through in additional aspects to represent his quincy side like give him like 2 reishi black wings on his back and maybe a halo making him look like a lucifer like hollow angel
Agreed wish he had 2 horns long hair
14:24 alright you have my attention
I believe itchigo surpassed his dangai self , because after the dangai training he had trancended SP in bankai . But while using his true shikai he didn't, he trained and now his base form was trancended, then he could stack bankai on top of it .
Ps: sorry for the bad English 😅