These are my picks for the overall 'worst' Bankai in Bleach! Now like I mention in the video, that doesn't mean weak - these Bankai all suffer from flaws of some kind, but let me know your thoughts on the list! Do you agree, or would you make some changes? Thanks everyone!
I feel like Ichigos Bankai also was never used to its full capabilities. His inexperience in combat showed that often. Especially when white took over or when he was fighting white within his inner self. Like we see quite a few examples even before he learns Bankai of white using his shikai in ways we never see Ichigo try and that to me is kinda sad. So while I agree it's not incredibly powerful but give to someone with more combat experience I feel like they probably would have won against Byakuya with the same skill set
I agree with the rukia statement anyone with fire powers or high speed regeneration in that state of her bankai she'd would probably lose easily she can't dodge Or block
In fairness to Soifon's Bankai. She punched a hole in both opponents head. That is a kill shot 95% of the time. She just happen to fight two things that can live with a whole in their head.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Ikakku has a false bankai. I suspect that Ikakku’s respect for Kenpachi is a kind of limiter and his zanpaktou basically thinks “hey, if you don’t actually want to try to kill the strongest fighter you know and are content to live in his shadow, I’m not giving you all of my power.”
I still hate the whole “bankais that are damaged can’t be repaired” crap. Bankais should just gradually heal once the zanpakuto is back in its sealed state.
Agreed, I'm fine with things like what Renji went through with "Your sword didn't tell you the true Bankai name" but the perma broken just has never sat well with me. While that fact did 'buff' Komamura's, it nerfed so many others.
I feel you but i actually think lore wise it is very logical obviously from a story/ writing point of view it is a easy plot device but in universe it makes sense. Because a shikai is you using the power within and with your sword as a medium bankai is the full externalation of your zanpaktou spirit kinda like how in the rebellion arc they were roaming outside just now in the form of a blade . So it makes sense that if that externalised spirit is damaged it wont just freely heal itself but keeps that damage. ( hope my bad grammar wasn’t a problem)
Yea. Like he said though I don’t think kubo intended this. But for years Ikkaku was on my list for be a massive overrated character to me. He’s beaten less than mid tier guys and his bankai is garbage.
@@DEVILS_advocate05I have a feeling Kubo did his usual trick of subtly foreshadowing the plot point, but in such a way that if he decided to drop it later there would be no difference. So basically he probably did and didn't intend it.
@if7723 yh he might. He's supposed to parallel eachother in that they both want to surpass or stand on equal footing with their captains. But instead of persevering like renji, ikkaku gave up and chose to be a follower instead. He's quite literally a sleeping dragon in both the power of the bankai that you have to wake up and his suppressed ego. Once he regains it tho, that will be when we see what his zanpakuto has been holding out on him.
@@hairlessgrizzly559And considering the size, an attack hitting it is proportionally far smaller than if it hit Komamura himself. So it's sort of better defensively than it initially seems. Especially since trying to go after Komamura means taking your eyes off the unsettlingly fast giant.
The fact that Bankai cannot be repaired is probably my least favourite twist in all of Bleach. Especially with how much it seems the story has to bend over backwards to make exceptions like Mayuri and Komamura. I feel like the only reason to include that was to send ichigo to the Soul Palace, but there would have been other ways to achieve that. (just let Mayuri say he can't repair the Bankai for the same reason the Quincy couldn't steal it or something to that effect. Idk I'm sure there would have been other explanaitions.)
The arguably doesn't even apply to Ichigo anymore (or might not even matter in the story), since we know Inoue can just "reject" any broken Bankai back to its original state. I don't consider it unreasonable to assume we were told the rule in the first place just for the "OH ****" moment when Yhwach broke Ichigo's Bankai, only for Inoue to "reject" the broken Tensa Zangetsu once the moment's purpose was served - to show off Yhwach's "The Almighty" and to temporarily defeat Ichigo and have his power stolen.
Don’t forget how Kubo had to retcon Renji’s bankai being completely shattered. After his fight with Byakuya it should be banished to the shadow realm, but somehow it only lost a few bones… Right.
@@MrGksarathy It says something when the only thing that can keep her power from working, other than dying when she's not around, is a power that literally decides "what will happen and what will not", and the man who possessed that power died only three chapters later.
Ichigo's fake bankai is pretty impressive especially it's first appearance however in arrancar arc it seems pretty weak not because it's actually weak but due to other several factors like the substitute badge limiting ichigo's power and him not accepting his hollow which is ichigo directly rejecting his zanpaktou. His mental and emotional state were making his bankai look weak.
Yes, I agree. Didn't byakuya say that he only lost because he didn't really have control over his Bankai and destroyed the incredible speed and strength of his own body because he couldn't handle it yet? For me it just shows that bankai is very strong, too strong. Ichigo could have defeated Bbyakuya at the beginning, but he didn't want to, he just wanted to humiliate him. I think in the Arrancar arc Ichigo never really used the full power of his Bankai because he knew from that point on that his body wouldn't be able to handle it and he wouldn't be able to move again.
@@FuchsfeuerI think the issue in such an approach is He Doesn’t Know that Íchígō’s White Zángètsū is Still JUST in his own spirit body… (why the mask keeps appearing over serious wounds… & maybe some blūt if they’re not too busy within the blade…) so the more wounds the more desire for the Hollow Shīnígámí form to Take over… BUT props to Black TènsàZángètsū or Yhwachígō (or whatever we should call him) somehow Stopping Shírō from Just murdering captain Kūchīkí a few moments later with Kūrōsákí’s bare slightly hollowfied hands… which Probably would’ve gotten people more serious instead of “wait… why were we killing Rukia again?! Dead peoples’ orders that are actually Aîzèn who’s Faked his own death?! Really not cool bro!” : D It does, however, make me wonder how an unsealsealable sword made of Yhwach’s soul down some Ëcht Quincy plus royal Shíbà family blood got so easily cut by Haschwalthe… well I guess it makes sense that the second in command who often holds the Allmighty whenever it’s “QuincyKing Naptime” WOULD be able to break a Lesser Yhwach who probably doesn’t Like being in some Shīnígámí Zánpákūtō form… though he’s Not gonna be wielded by some bloody Àrráncár… so that made sense… hmm… Excuse my rambles, but I totally count that Victory as White Tènsà Zángètsū’s partial manifestation through Kūrōsákí Spirit Body which of course leads up to the Vástō Lordé form at climax of hüécō múndō… though I’ve got mixed feelings on the Fullbring form mixing the whole human hollow shinigami Réīô bits manifested from… I dunno wasn’t it loosely implied to be Proximity to Rukia in her sealed Temporary Human Body containing the hōgïôkū which awakened all the Kárákūrà Town kids’ crazy abilities?! Brings into question whether this explains the “child” security work at the local candy shop from Unusually Successful ModSouls… if he ever broke his Bánkaî might they be turned into some shaky Kūrōtsūchí style New Bánkaî form?! Could this explain the Puppet Hand form he uses in BBS’ ranged Kísūké “Beyond Bánkaî” series form?! Do we still get something wild like the weird forms which feel like Shūnsüí & Ūkītáké’s twin sword spirits had been quite seriously dating?! : D hehe just saying those two forms are like the thematics of eachothers’s shíkaî forms were mixed into their Bánkaî forms in a really unusual but cool way WHICH does sound totally doable for Shūnsüí’s Bánkaî if he made the right play to mix the theming of their blades so each could use eachothers abilities collaboratively… But then again Ūkītáké’s capabilities in using even Cérō réīátsū does Potentially imply that simply holding hands and sharing a small amount of réīátsū from a comrade’s zánpákūtō should Allow for something that wild… I think we even have the Gemini twin fishes in the pond beneath Shūnsüí’s special attack animation, whilst he still sends strange spinning tops rather liberally, unless I’m remembering multiple Shūnsüí forms in BBS which… I do tend to mix up my ranged and short but still ranged attackers… would I call them midranged? Maybe? I dunno…. : D There’s a Lot to consider when it’s the only spot we get more Exploration of Sword Forms that go beyond anything we see from most featured characters in the show… & I love the alternating 2 character forms… would’ve LOVED a Ranged Zángètsū with a switching between Black & White forms coming naturally on some specials but maybe the ultimate is the both of them OR the Íchígō with them both moving around or with him on different normal attacks… but that could be its Own Íchígō transformation for his true shíkaî maybe? Where’s the Alternate Double Original Bánkaî forms with a shifting Vasto Lordé with Blūt Vein? that would’ve sold a Lot of units as an anniversary piece… JUST Saying…. Love them doing form change stuff with some characters… feel more Need for That! Though I wish we had this in a Warriors style game on consoles but that’d be basically a Cooler Version of BBS for consoles where all maps and graphics etc are better and would probably be totally overpriced to attempt developing so that the characters couldn’t be that expansive which… is a bummer… Though if we had that much customisation built into characters in a system like Kakarot where they include the Zánpákūtō filler arc & a New Game + where you can throw in whichever version of whichever characters unlocked (like in a Pirate Warriors 4 style game) then we’d be able to switch between various characters or even have specific Combo abilities… which Some might be more complex like the Rángíkū & Tōshīrō twin shíkaî combination attacks thing from at least 1-2 fights… Some Zánpákūtō feel like they’d work quite nicely in collaborative moves with particular characters depending on kídō skills… Can ANYONE potentially functionally imitate a flaming gètsūgà tènshō?? Cause just a réīátsū heavy sword slash with… Shákàhō maybe? I dunno… just thinking about all them “Kídō type” zánpákūtō & if it isn’t a mix of instinct & natural proclivity for some specific Kídō that’s naturally part of their soul… but then I’m gonna write a whol Fookin essay about it if I don’t stop myself now! There’s a LOT to work with if you can have any number of Kídō abilities learnable as an aspect of customising moves with your blade or training the character to do the fancy stuff other zánpákūtō seem to naturally do… But then I just made a really epic and time taking game where maybe you develop the signature moves in training as each character from mixing weird Kídō in strange ways with sword moves that are particular to their blade shape & personalities? Just ideas… Hope game devs working on bleach games somewhere are hearing this and seeing how many different directions they can have fun with that… But then there’s the aspect of having Transformation for Both Blade & Body which would be more dramatic for some characters like Íchígō… which I bet the mechanics could be even set up so it’s misleading & makes sense if white’s réīátsū gets too charged & nowhere to go in the Bïákūïà fight in soul society… that could make sense & then there’s some awareness of the Soul having these different inner souls growing & expending réīátsū in different ways… just thought of too many other ways to overcomplicate this to be way too cool a concept… be fun have some options like having attacks still in Japanese even if dialogue is in English… just ideas… (excuse the rambles folks…)
Don’t forget is that using the mask is for ichigo to unleash his full fake bankai. Zangetsu is limiting his soul reaper powers and the hollow mask shows how much of that seal weakens. So we should always counts the hollow mask ichigo to ichigos fake bankai.
It’s a shame Ikkaku couldn’t go to the Soul Palace as well and had a new Bankai forged. Imagine how much more useful he could’ve been in TYBW because he just stayed getting shafted and wasn’t gonna do much with a broken Bankai.
I think it’s an anime troupe at this point to have a awesome character do something really cool once and never be used in the story in that cool way ever again lol
I still think this will happen because there's no way Ryumon Hozukimaru is his true Bankai. If Zabimaru saw fit to lie to Renji like that, Hozukimaru would do the same, especially given Ikkaku's reluctance to use it.
The bankai lore revealed in the final arc really shifts the way you perceive Ikkaku in the fake katakura arc. Dude got fleeced for not using his bankai and losing the battle when he probably knew full well his bankai is now worthless but he’s too ashamed to admit it to his peers.
Imagine if ikaku keep using his bankai, the sword chipped little by little, and after some time, his bankai is only a handle 😭😭😭 What a cleaver way to Nerf your system kubo
If you think about it, that's kinda perfect for him. His captain went through almost the entire series without ever having unlocked his shikai and was one of the most fearsome combatants. When he finally unlocked Shikai, he lost Yachiru. When he finally unlocked Bankai, he almost died. If you think about Ikkaku's personality, he's not one to use any sort of special power. Hozukimaru doesn't even do anything special. It's just a segmented staff. My point is that he's fallen right into the Yoruichi camp, where they are so good, or can get so good, they don't NEED to use bankai.
And that sucks, being hollowfied was supposed to be a powerup, A POWERUP. Also, Sakanade would likely be terrifying to anyone below the level of Shinigami Aizen, I mean seriously, Sakanade messed up Aizen Sosuke of all people, thus proving that in all likelihood it could likely mess up the likes of Yamamoto, Unohana, and the Zero division somewhat.
ALL we needed was Shūnsüí yelling at some really dramatic Moment like Maybe the Gerard fight? “Captains of the- no… Everyone that can bloody Hollowfy! Get ready to dodge crazier than ever before, if you can… Everyone eat your bloody Hollowfication pills again AND ALL Visored members, Hell; Even Non Gōtéī, any Àrráncárs Here?! Everyone with a Bit of Hollow Réīátsū, Unleash as Many Cérō blasts as you Possibly Can!!!” THAT could be dramatic as hell! I wonder if Aîzèn can do a more advanced better control Properly Transcendent but not in a nasty way Form whilst he has multiple clone bodies… & whatever abilities from the bloody Multiple Réīô pieces in his double hōgïōkū (or whatever transliteration works) that allows for him to not get Almighty-fookt the second Yhwach feels like it… I hope we get him at the end saying “when were you under the impression I wasn’t already using my Bánkaî?! I had to learn to use both forms of my blade together simultaneously which… it’s not a lot of hypnotising oneself after you get used to it…” or something to indicated we’d never remember him having said Bánkaî because HE KNEW the ability to steal it of quincies or something & already stole whatever from whoever and actually was also just chilling in Réīôtown any time he felt like it without anyone knowing he was there cause he didn’t want them to… Maybe he’s already hypnotised the Réīô corpse to pass the íràzūsándō or however we were meant to spell/transliterste it? Hehe I bet he knows the Réīô Candidacy stuff already… that bit can expand the Kísūké & aîzèn commenting on the Réīô a Lot heavier… But who knows how much was intended vs Added & so on… Meanwhile fans are bloody powerscaling or whatever… but, of course they are… : D All we need is New Commander to Shout “Hollowfy!” In whatever conditional variant & I know he’d try and do cool dramatic closeups BUT it might be scarier for the Quincies if we see the Cérō & limb ripping happening faster than the Quincies can see it? At least some Sákànádé Multi-Shīnjí Clone nō Jūtsū Cérō with hollow sounds Action? Maybe one of them bleeding does an accidental Gran Rey Cérō? Just some ideas for making them feel… at least above the level of people stuck in the living realm for 100 years… & Quincies SHOULD be offguard oneshotted by Visored captains! More Kísūké hollowfication pill action! We all want Vengence for Hüécō Múndō! : D Can’t just be Shīnjí took out a small group of soldat right?! Let the man shoot some Cérōs with his mask later on! Màÿúrí should be doing some crazy stuff with his zombie corps right?!
@@SeiyaTempest Hey, Isane heals people. She may be useless in a fight, but you really need someone who can reattach your arm and stuff. Half the time i just forget the Vizard exist though...
The only way Ryūmon Hozukimaru could be worth using is if the dragon crest loading further powered it up past the 5-10X increases all Shinigami receive while using Bankai. As it is now, it’s incredibly unimpressive.
Similar to renjis being very impractical with the whole giant dragon that even petal boy took down easily.... Renji did eventually get his true name bankai and I suspect it's the same with him too I don't think Ryūmon Hozukimaru is his true bankai.
It's main appeal was its sheer power, now it doesn't have that anymore. Honestly, if he had gone all out from the beginning, maybe he could've defeated that Fraccion without breaking his Bankai. This is honestly a great way to make a cool character look bad imo.
There’s only two ways to solve Ikkaku’s situation, 1. Tsukishima cuts Ikkaku’s zanpakutoh and resets it to what it was before his fight in the arrancar arc. 2. Send Ikkaku to train with the Zero squad and talk to the ZANPAKUTOH CREATOR. What if this is not Ikkaku’s real bankai?
We think Kubo revealed Ichigo's true bankai to explain that he's the only one to have a fully realized zanpakuto outside of the Zero Division and Yamamoto. Soi Fon and Ikkaku follow warriors and ideals that are nothing like themselves, and we know that the essence of the zanpakuto is actually the wielder. The fact that Soi Fon dislikes her bankai when it resembles her tenacity and style more than anything is probably why it hasn't evolved further. She behaves with flashes of aggression or passion even when she tries to be calm to save face for her role, and is more like a destructive wind than a bolt of lightning. Ikkaku literally has to wake up his bankai as if it doesn't respect how he wields it, which is probably because it actually has abilities outside of direct combat. That might be why it fills with red reiatsu; it could be a weapon that's meant to have energy projections or something more. Yet, because Ikkaku and Soi Fon attempt to fight like Yuroichi and Zaraki, their zanpakuto MUST feel betrayed in some sense, as they can probably tell that even Zaraki and Yuroichi don't necessarily have above average bonds with their zanpakuto. Renji cared more for others than he did for himself. His initial bankai seemed to be more of a protector type than his new offensive type bankai. Shinji and Kensei haven't even fully embraced their hollow aspects, which is now probably hindering them from reaching the depths of their bankai and evolving them further. Komamura had to be willing to return to his true form in order to achieve his realized bankai, but because of the process, he ended up losing access to it afterwards. He literally became immortal and evolved his bankai just from that sacrifice, almost somewhat synchronizing with his zanpakuto on a level of "fusion" that seemed to be there but was hidden by the armor (mask) that he wore to hide. Mayuri? He's just awesome. The man refuses to live with himself. He's reaching out for perfection on a constant basis while running from the quiet, calm peace he seems to neglect. It takes him losing something for him to realize what he had, and it's an endless cycle of the hamster wheel for him. Kind of like running in the Buddha's palm.
It’s an assumption that Shinji and Kensei’s Bankai aren’t fully developed. Not every character doesn’t have their Bankai in it’s true form, it’s actually rare to not have your Bankai in it’s true form. Aside from Ichigo and Ginjo who are exceptions due to being substitutes and not having Asauchi, it’s really just Toshiro for being immature when it comes to power and experience, and Renji for not being respected by his zanpakuto
@@jocoolshow We agree on your stance about Ginjo and Ichigo. However, we believe Kubo proved with Byakuya's enhanced Shikai and Bankai that they aren't fully developed. Based on what we've read, it appears that Kubo is telling his fans that the use of the zanpakuto is similar to Hollows, as once you've fully become one with your zanpakuto, you transcend Bankai. And, thus, your Shikai and Bankai will develop further or become something else. Similar to Aizen fusing with is zanapkuto, a character could be able to manifest their abilities without the zanpakuto. We believe you can actualize a Bankai and even master it, but becoming one with it takes much more time or other situations, as it is literally your subconscious self separate from your being. Each character has flaws that, if you back away from the story, you can see Kubo laid out in their abilities. Shinji and Kensei are no longer what they used to be genetically, which could give credence that their Bankai may not have developed due to their inability to perform a resurreccion similar to Kaname or Ichigo. Heck, they may have abilities that they just haven't showcased yet since we haven't seen the vizards flex new hybrid powers outside of Hachigen. A character may have Bankai that is powerful that they've bonded with and mastered over time, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's fully developed. But, that's just what we think. You could be 1000% right. Thank you for the response!
@@studiofzd To further add on to your point, the zanpakuto IS the shinigami. It grows with the shinigami as the shinigami learns new things about themselves, adopting new philosophies, personality traits, etc. This is why meditation is so important to their power system compared to hollows who need to feast on other hollows (rather than inner peace and discovering themselves, they need to hone their instinct to dominate and justify their existence over another creature). As the shinigami lives, that shinigami will learn new things about themselves and the world around them and those experiences integrate into their soul, and thus into the zanpakuto, because it IS them. So, I reject the idea that there is such a thing as true bankai. I believe your zanpakuto changes over time as you understand yourself, hence why meditation is important to the shinigami to learn.
dont forget that sanpakutou/bankais are CONNECTED to their soul, their personality. Aizen having that shikai shows how shrewd/conman he is. Ikkaku, being a strong but kind of laid-back shows on his bankai. Strong but brittle.
@@Mortarion-xt9wpwhat I always believed is that the Shikai represents the surface level personality. Minazuki, Suzumebachi, and others really show this off. Their Shikai represent how they show themselves (and are likely subject to change) and the bankai is the true self
@@urameshitrev1851 honestly shusuke isn't even that bad, he fused his bankai with something else so I can give him a pass That other guy with the flower petals was worse😂
@@elaizakaguya4631 I had to google that guy, cause he's so forgettable but yes, his name is Kenryuu and his shikai was called Benishidare. And it's power was...to sprout flowers on your opponents weapon (it is unclear how this helps in battle, and they can be blown off pretty easily) and he attacks one time, and it just looks like a much worse Senbonzakura lol.
@@urameshitrev1851the petals did turn into blades too, so I could see the potential in a shikai that can cause your own weapon to sprout blades against you. Or even worse, put flowers on your body and impale you immediatly.
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I personally wouldn't say that Ichigo's original bankai wasn't enough to beat Byakuya. It was just the fact that his body couldn't handle it yet. The stress of using it was taking its toll after awhile
Doesn't White say that Ichigo's body is being crushed under his own spiritual pressure? Ichigo was totally exhausted and damaged from his training as well.
Ichigo proved that he could've killed Byakuya at least twice during the fight after activating his bankai, before Zangetsu took over. As someone mentioned even Zangetsu comments on how the strain of his bankai's SP is affecting him. He just obtained bankai, his body couldn't possibly be ready to handle using it for long periods
I like to believe that Sui feng's bankai lied to her in the same way that Renji's did. It represents her wild and explosive side, which is a bit uncontrolled and a testimate to her arrogance. She legitimately believed that she invented shunko that she could defeat Yoruichi. Her pride as the number 1 assassin kind of betrays her, and is very counter to what you'd expect from an assassin: someone cool and collected and inconspicuous enough to be forgettable in a crowd. She never controlled that pride or that anger so her bankai was loud and unusable for an assassin. However, if she *were* to control that hot streak and contain her anger, I like to think her true bankai would follow suit. That massive missile would be contained in a casing: instead of shooting rockets they'd be bullets fired from a sniper rifle similar to Lillie Barro. Thus she'd get the power to assassinate in one "strike" in true assassin fashion: inencumbered and potentially hidden. Her reticle in a scope could be the butterfly target she places on enemies as well!
Ichigo's "bankai" isn't even a bankai. Hell, it's not even a real Zanpakuto. What we see Ichigo use for the majority of Bleach is a reishi weapon manipulated by Old Man Zangetsu to change form depending on how deep Ichigo taps into his soul reaper powers. It's also why Ichigo only really uses hollow powers while in Bankai
In a way, it actually might be a version of a Ressereccion. Old Man Zangetsu using the inner hollow to imitate Bankai. When the old man is in control, he can manipulate the Ressereccion to act as a Bankai, but when the hollow takes control, he tries to use it as it’s meant to be used, pure hollow form.
@@mikesmoviemadness24 It's something different, something completely new and insular in Bleach. No other being in all of Bleach has a part Hollow, part Shinigami Zanpakuto spirit. Arrancars use the part of their mask they ripped off and turn it into a Zanpakuto with no spirit inside while the Vizards have an additional hollow inside them. Both types of beings are imperfect. But Ichigo? He was perfected. One entity, two races in one, initially made the same way as Asauchis, bonded with Shinigami powers to become that perfected hybrid spirit. In a way Ichigo has a completely new release because he theoretically uses a hybrid of Bankai and Ressureccion.
Yup its not even half of his true power.... His power come from hollow which Is suppress by old man zangetsu... Plus even when Ichigo using bankai he was stupidly strong against Aizen army and fight against most strongest Espada 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I think his Powers and Zanpaktou matured tremendously in Bleach Series + when he starts new game With Fullbring arc he gotten godly power from every Captain ,lieutenant and Yamajii himself to restore ichigo power + Fullbring + Vasto Lorde shiro + ywach soul piece this is all before his True Awakening 😨😨😨 After TYBW his body is like godlike like Squad Zero lvl 🔥🔥🔥🔥 20:38
I mean yes and no. It's false in the sense that it's not an asauchi but it's real in the sense that zangetsu is his zanpakto. His hollow powers are his shinigami/zanpakto powers. Ichigo refusing his heritage is what made them feel like separate powers. Best example I can give is when hikone uses shunpo, sonido, and hirenkyaku all mixed together to create a new faster form of movement. He's not using them separately although they are all separate techniques. Also the statement about hollow only using his hollow powers in only bankai is false. When he initially gets shikai he has the mask. It also manifest itself to save ichigo from a body shot before he learns bankai. And during his hollow training where he fully hollowfies he wasn't in bankai. The reason we see him use it in bankai is for 2 reasons. Power creep and ichigos hesitance to accept his hollow side. Why go hollow for his 10 second limit when he can go bankai? It was more of a trump card initially. Then if his opponent is too strong he can use it when needed. Which we see against grimmjaw. Then again in his last fight against ulquiorra but only after fighting him in bankai for a while. Then after that we don't ever really see it again with the exception of a brief moment against yammy. And that's when he started fearing the power again.
Ikkaku was hiding his Bankai and thus quite possibly didn't know how vulnerable they are. And it fits with something Byakuya said to Renji back in the Soul Society Arc: that you need a decade of experience with your Bankai before you're ready to use it in combat.
Which is true because the way you gain experience is through literal combat... And the ones who get near death experiences have their powers skyrocket up... Like with Izuru after nearly dying he gained a LOT of power and easily took out one of those Quincys.
I've always believed that the fact that Ikkaku hated even having a bankai weakened it substantially, that self rejection causing it to either never show its true power, or making as brittle as it was. He was always holding himself to never stand out, and it shows.
We believe that's because they all have drawbacks. The characters who didn't use their Bankai before were able to get by with the powers and abilities they had outside of Bankai, especially the Vizards, Zaraki, Kyoraku, and Yamamoto. However, Yamamoto had already proven to be a threat to everyone with Wonderweiss
@@studiofzdthere's a lot of you guys in there? 👀 Also, he's not wrong. Even Byakuya told Ichigo that his bankai is too small to be itself, because in his perception bankai was a shikai but better or bigger.
@@Prushinthespirit We believe that was Kubo just planting seeds. But, hey, maybe you guys are right. Maybe Kubo didn't know where the story was going, that would make people feel better about their theories because it would show that the writer had to come up with ideas on the fly. Our theory is he knew more than he put out and possibly made changes as time went on, like most artists who get better over time. Even when Kubo answers questions, he doesn't always outright give full details, which is smart. The story isn't over for him, so giving away too many details could end up in an Obito/Tobi revelation too early. We believe he showed Uryu getting his powers back to foreshadow Rukia stabbing Ichigo in the fullbringer arc to grant his Quincy powers again, reawakening his Shrift "The Shinigami" or something similar. We believe Kubo knew to showcase everyone's flaws and spirits with their zanpakuto in the Zanpakuto Unknown Tales arc to explain why each of the shinigami have not fully accepted their subconscious selves. We believe Kubo used Byakuya as a means to explain what HIS Bankai was at the moment he stated what you said, because...let's be real...that pretty much is what Byakuya's Bankai is, "Shikai but better" (and now his Shikai pretty much is his former Bankai).
I don't think so because we did see Hihio Zabimaru was missing the segments Byakuya destroyed. I could believe that Kubo hadn't fully decided if he'd commit to that plot point, though.
ya it was clearly never meant to be a thing ashisogi jizou got split in 2 during its first fight in the series and i think tousens bankai burst as well but that may have just been because he was beaten and it went away but still it was clear it was never meant to be an actual plot point and was just an excuse to give ichigo a new zanpaktou
@@kawainessa Tousen was just defeated after Zaraki clocked him. Ashisogi Jizou also feels kinda different, given that it can be modified by Mayuri to create a new form, and he can change the poison on the fly. Not to mention, the revelation that its body is Mayuri's 4th attempt at creating artificial life, so perhaps the true power of the Zanpakuto is modification.
First it’s not actually banned, that’s a misconception. Second, this is headcanon but I like to think that he went out into the Rukongai to affect pack animals and that was observed from a distance.
@@Mortarion-xt9wp There still has to be three captains present. Who would have seen the Bankai. Perhaps they saw from a distance outside it's actual range.
Since this is a video on bankai I was reading CFYOW and I realized something that isn't talked about while we have seen/read Hisagis bankai we have only seen the beginning of it. At the end of the TYBW Hisagi says he's mastered his bankai and we haven't seen that. The point I am bringing up is that the issues we discovered with his bankai could have been removed or are less of an issue now that he has mastered his bankai. For example while this is speculation it could be possible that his bankai could give him enough spirit energy to either escape the battle or finish the fight without the need of a partner. I bring this up be Byakuya has told Renji that it takes ten years to master bankai Renji had issues with his bankai before he truly understood and became worthy of its true power.
You probably won’t see this but remember how it was stated Yamamoto’s bankai changed over the years and got the North East South West thing, what if you did a video on other bankai if they were to develop that far?
A little theory I have about why Ikkaku's Bankai breaks so easily is it actually reflects his desire to not reveal it something to prop him for a Captain. He said it himself that he refuses to allow anyone to view it, or else they may recommend him as a Captain for a future vacancy in another squad. This then means he wouldn't serve under Kenpachi. So, if he were to use it and there were witnesses, the blade would be permanently broken to erase any chances of recommendation as he now lacks the prerequisite Bankai. So the Bankai is low-key more inline with Ikkaku than we previously thought.
He did go to Mayuri to try and get it fixed however. Suggesting he knew Mayuri would actually respect his wishes [and did until he accidentally mentioned it when explaining to Ichigo about his bankai]
One thing I never understood was why did BG9 get completely paralyzed by the poisoning, leaving him open to Soi Fon’s Bankai, while Cang Du can still move somewhat freely and even attack? One would imagine that the one who is a machine would be less susceptible to poisoning, especially when he didn’t have the stolen Bankai out unlike Cang Du when the Captains got their Bankais back. It’s also a shame that Soi Fon didn’t get a Hollowfication design like Toshiro did.
BG9 glitched out. It was probably interfering with his systems. Also Soi Fon isn’t a fan favorite so no cool hollow mask or an actual good fight. Those are for popular characters.
We learn later that he wasn't using the full Bankai, which could be the main reason it didn't hit him as hard. Based on what we see in the manga, Hitsugaya's initial Bankai is more like a second level Shikai that melts into its true Bankai
Honestly my ruling for Bankai's is simple. "Are there Shikai that I would consider stronger?" And honesly a few character's Shikai ruin that for everyone.
Shinjis' bankai is really interesting in that it's power and usefulness is mostly dictated by the base power of its user. If Shinji just had a higher base power level (on par with some of the stronger captains) then he could be safe knowing that in a 1 on 1, or a situation where it was him and some allies vs a number of enemies, he would still most likely win by sheer strength while in a situation where he was completely outnumbered he could just whip out his bankai and let his enemies do the hard work for him. The big issue is that without his swords' ability to rely on, he almost always gets completely dumpstered 😂 he's sort of a weird mirror of yamamoto in that regard, yamamoto can't just break out his bankai anywhere without the issue of potential destroying the place and its people, but he's able to get around that by not needing his bankai to be incredibly powerful and win fights. Shinji on the other hand is only really useful if the power of his sword works, which weirdly makes the power of his bankai seem worse.
I’m genuinely convinced soifon’s Shikai is better than her Bankai Like I feel Kubo knew her Shikai was OP and that’s why most of her major opponents were enemies it couldn’t work on like Barragan and BG9
And that’s why all her fights are fuckin lame. Somehow all her opponents are immune to her powers or know how to counter them like Yoruichi and BG9 knowing how to shut down her Shunko so she doesn’t use it either. Also her Bankai never works because of purposely bad match ups. Kubo never even let us see what her perfected Shunko can fully do. I’m still annoyed we never got to see an all out fully optimized Soi Fon with Shikai, Shunko, and flash step clones used at the same time against someone that isn’t immune to her existence.
Why will I always follow Mr.Tommo's content? Facts. Objective, source-based references, or opinions gleaned from Bleach expertise. No ass-pulls here. Great list!
I wonder, now that Ikkaku is the lieutenant of Squad 11, will he be more willing to use his Bankai? The main reason he did not wanna use it originally was that he feared he'd be forcefully promoted to another Squad if they learned of his Bankai, and he wanted to serve under Kenpachi forever. But as a lieutenant, him using Bankai is no big deal so maybe he'll be more willing to use it?
Sorry, Diaguren Hyorinmaru NEEDS to be last on the list of weakest Bankai. He's been smoked several times while activated and couldn't kill Harribel with, at the time, the most powerful attack available to him.
3 Points: -Shinji's Bankai is not useless in one-on-one fights, it will make the opponent think that Shinji is an ally and he will be able to make a free attack on the opponent, it only works once per fight, but it can define the winner with just this free attack. -Ichigo would only lose to Byakuya because he didn't want to finish him off with that first quick attack, if it were Soi Fon, Byakuya would be dead on the ground, and speaking of her -Soi Fon simply uses her Bankai the wrong way, her shikai is to kill in 2 hits in close combat while the Bankai should work like a cruise missile, hitting enemies hundreds of kilometers away, still being an assassination Bankai, but it kills out of visual range, without Soi Fon having to get close, the death of the skies that does not announce itself or fight, it just explodes.
Shinji’s Bankai brings so many questions - friends become foes. What about those who are foes already? What if an Arrancar, Quincy, Shinigami, and fullbringer are in the same vicinity and they all hate/are neutral to each other?
Where his shikai reverses your senses, his bankai reverses your perceptions. So i think if all factions where there, then the perceptions being neutral reverse and become volatile. Achieving the same effect i guess 🤷🏻♂️ haha
1. Ichibe- If you think about it, it really doesn't do anything his Shikai doesn't. 2. Ikakku- big fragile sword that isn't that strong 3. Renji- more versatile than ikkaku but same problems 4. Kensei- doesn't do enough damage for how limited it is 5. Soifon- ...idk why this is her bankai of all things 6. Ginjo- Tensa Zangetsu at home, which is still pretty good tbf 7. Shinji- Way too situational
@@Eugene_TEC Nope. His shikai allows him to blot out names thus removing someone's power plus drain all the darkness from someone. His bankai allows him to completely change that thing's name rewriting them entirely. He could easily use this to empower others since any word he writes will change that thing, something his shikai can't do at all.
You reminded me that Soifon lost her arm. And got it back. I some reason thought it was Orihime but double checking it was said the Gotei 13 healed it (Reddit/Qora showing manga info panel). If the Gotei 13 healed/restored her arm, why didn't Yamamoto have his restored? TWBW seemed to state he had too much pride to let a human (Orihime) fix it but why not the Gotei 13?
I guess if it was the Gotei 13 it was probably Unohana specifically. She's the only one who seems like she'd have that level of skill. But maybe Mayuri, assuming Soifon was willing to let the guy near her.
@@shadenox8164 Those are my two likely suspects (assuming some of the things Mayuri does to himself can be done to others easily). But still doesn't explain why Yamamoto wouldn't tell a Shinigami to fix his arm.
I wish the enhanced speed of Tensa Zangetsu was used more because that was its coolest aspect to me and at some point it devolved to just a boost to all of Ichigo base stats
Ngl, I love Jakuho Raikoben a lot, probably more than most, but even I cannot argue with its placement here. I wish just one time, ONCE, it did what it was supposed to and just took out an enemy in one shot. Side tangent, I hope Soi Fon gets something to do in the royal palace in the anime. She just kinda disappears in the source material, I think we’re supposed to assume Lille Barrow snipes her, but I really hope we get see her again. Doubt we’ll get her bankai again, but just like something. Anything.
I'd argue with its placement here. It's simple but can be used for both destruction of enemies en masse or single entity targets. Also it seems like in TYBW, in comparison to Arrancar arc, its damaging effect was much more concentrated, with more impact on target itself and less collateral damage, since she was so close to her target this time. And, quite importantly, it can be used repeatedly and isn't easy to destroy since it's projectile meant to be fired and detonated. A number of shots available and concentration of damage seem to be factors which are subjective to change via further training. As for her role in TYBW, I'd guess few times she could play a role. Such as: 1) Give the rest of Gotei time to play as decoy against Lille, even if she's out of the game eventually. Others can't use flash step but she still has her shunko and training. 2) Fire her bankai at Gerard in one if his final forms. 3) Save Yoruichi and Urahara after their fight against Askin. If her filler ability to neutralise any poisonous effect with her shikai mark is made canon, she could use that to help them out.
As always thanks for the content! A vid idea would be to see how has the best relationship with there zanpukto? I was remembering the conversation that Shinji had with Sakande when he was speaking to it saying you're soo reveresed that's why the bankai is for small fry and the shikai is for the big target
Does anyone else kind of want the MrTommo sign that’s on the wall in the background of the video of his office especially after watching his videos for a few years? Also I kind of wish we would have seen them reforge ikkaku’s bankai given how much attention he got throughout the series.
Didnt Ichigo get nerfed after the soul society arc tho? I feel like the reason it felt lackluster in the arrancar arc is just because he wasnt at full power. Also white is also just Ichigos power so I dont see why its portrayed as a negative point for his bankai power in defeating byakuya
Soifon's is more suited for a desperate last stand scenario where all options are expended and all other Shinigami are deceased or incapacitated with her as the last one standing. She's perfect with her standard assassin's skills in conjunction fellow Squad 2 members backing her. Especially now that Yoruichi is showing her that teamwork/comradeship does the job better than mere pawns.
I feel like Soi Fon's Bankai serves her character/personality more than anything It doesn't fit her "silent ninja assassin" persona, compared to her shikai. And like her personality, she can be this serious ninja assassin, but she's prone to explosive outbursts of anger
@@hairlessgrizzly559 Yes. Her extreme training and conditioning certainly also contributed to her extreme traits, wouldn't be surprised if her explosive temper is also subconscious anger at her lot in life even with it comes with perks. Only Yoruichi is a normal humane presence in an otherwise bleak and bloody world of assassins despite being one herself.
Now that she is reunited with her teacher and idol I wonder if Soi-Fon will work on her temper. I still would like to see a more calm and calculating Soi-Fon lining up a powerful shot while Yoruichi ties the enemy down. In my opinion the two of them have great potential for synergies.
I think it more represents her unresolved issues with her true self vs her ideal self. Suzumebachi represents who she wants to be and who she's supposed to be, while Jakoho Raikoben represents the aspects of herself she doesn't exactly take pride in. I feel once she finishes growing up, her Bankai might change form (i.e. true name reveal) or she might not find it so cumbersome.
Honestly Tensa Zangetsu is such a weird one. He moves so fast that Byakuya literally can't even follow his movements and is able to block EVERY SINGLE PETAL of Senbonzakura to basically never doing anything nearly as cool with it ever again except in non-canon movies. And what's even worse is that Kubo eventually made it so that he basically couldn't fight *at all* unless he was in bankai (like with that first privaron espada) I was actually going to write even more to talk about how his bankai felt like a shikai and his vaizard mask felt like what we would have expected a bankai to be... but then you said that right after I begin typing it lol
Because Ichigo’s first “Bankai” was technically his Quincy powers, I’ve seen an interesting fan theory that the reason it was so ineffective in Hueco Mundo was due to the poisonous hollow reishi all around him for that whole arc. Ichigo is PROBABLY the most immune Quincy to hollow reishi, but it probably did have SOME effect.
Ikkaku's Bankai is weak AF and a lesser version of that should have been his Shikai. His Bankai should've been something more akin to Noitra's release to where Ikkaku could have used multiple blades to fight to his hearts content with total disregard to his own life
In a bit of a defence of Soi Fons Bankai, it seems like its a powerful area of effect attack to deal with larger targets/groups. Suzumebachi's Shikai always seemed like the single target poison attack while her Bankai was always a group attack that requires no initial attack to deal with enemies.
This is shikai related but my biggest gripe with Bleach was always that two guys shikais could burn everything into ash and the other complete hypnosis. And then other guys get like a spiky ball that can be broken by a punch.
True but that's just most shonen power systems. Look at Naruto for example one guy is born with eyes that let him copy things, strong and sometimes unbreakable genjutsu, and an energy mech, and another dude is born with a connection to dogs or can grow big.
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 his makes the weapons of his enemies heavier. If used correctly it can be devastating (assuming that his opponent isn't too much more powerful)
To be fair ichigo was constantly fighting people stronger than himself, barragan was much stronger than soi fon and had hierro and respira and Pepe has blut which does skew things a bit
Something unique to mention about Ichigos Bankai, at all times so far, is that it never wears on him, the capitans dont use their bankai unless they have too, the Vizard mention using Bankai is too taxing on the body already hence why they dont mix Bankai + Mask, but for Ichigo, its different, the Bankai is never a burden on him, as you mentioned, it seems to be his most natural base form, of course knowing the truth about his powers makes it give more sense, but it still shows how different Ichigo is
I know I’m the minority on this, but I thought Kenpachi’s Bankai was very underwhelming and predictable. The combat craving monster becomes even more of a monster………didn’t see that coming at all. I think it would’ve been cooler to give Kenpachi a more complex Bankai that actually takes some skill and technique to master. It would be a cool change of pace for a character that always wins just by slashing at his enemy until it dies. Idk, the Bankai he got just feels extremely obvious. *edit: I know the point of his character is to be predictable and obvious. That doesn’t mean I have to love his Bankai for being more of the same.
With what Zanpakutou and their Bankai are it would be honestly weird to have anything different for Zaraki tho. Just like you said - he just hacks and craves battle, so the manifestation of his own soul - entity born of Zaraki himself, that is him at the same time - cannot be situational technique requiring anything special. It might feel basic and predictable, but it is precisely why it works for Zaraki.
Well it is predictable... Just like Kenpachi himself. He is the battle hungry berserker and he will stay that way. When in battle he will wail on his opponent and if that doesn't work he will lift his self-imposed restraints one after another. Lastly he still hasn't fully mastered his bankai, leaving room for growth
You should've know this already. Shikai and bankai play a big role in a Shinigami character writing. His bankai represent who he is. Those who their bankai is less predictable are those who are kind of hidding their true self to others. Ex: Unohana, Kyoraku, Urahara ect. Kenpachi is the most honesry guy in the soul society. I never hide anything. We all know he just want to fight nothing more, nothing less. So that bankai perfectly make sense.
Way to make Ikkaku Bankai atleast somewhat viable, do a Kubikiribōchō from Naruto. When he cuts/kills and opponent the blood spilled reforms Ryūmon Hōzukimaru. Ikkaku is one of my favourite characters, felt was done dirty by Kubo.
I have this theory there's something more to Ikakku's zanpakuto, and why even if we accept a broken bankai can never be recovered (which I dislike as well) it might not apply to him. The first note is his shikai is actually fairly unique in that it's a primarily wooden weapon. As such, it gets broken in every single fight he's in. He even activates his bankai with his shikai already broken, which means the state of zanpakuto is irrelevant to his bankai. So then when his bankai also completely shatters, it seems to fit his zanpakuto theme. It's important to note here that Ikakku loves fighting like Zaraki, and will also limit himself for the sake of a better fight. However, unlike Zaraki's unlimited power, Ikakku is often just putting himself at a dangerous disadvantage. And also unlike Zaraki, Ikakku is completely willing to die for the sake of his own challenge. Now there's one other note about all Ikakku's fights: luck. Whether he's winning or survives losing, there's always something lucky about them. So my theory is what if his zanpakuto has some sort of secret luck ability that even he's unaware of. The blade itself is just completely oridinary- even the bankai's red dragon bar doesn't actually do anything- and doesn't matter how much it's broken, because even the smallest piece is still granting Ikakku some improved luck to keep fighting.
The "scarred" state may not apply to Ikkaku's bankai. It's possible that his bankai wasn't fully developed like Rengi's or can repair itself like Komamora's. His bankai is designed to get fully awakened after trading blows with an opponent or by getting spun around. That means it's designed to be like a berserker, throwing caution to the wind so it and its user can drown in the thrill of battle.
I always took Ikaku's bankai being bad a consequence of him not training it/using it often. Mixed in with the fact that he is scared to show it off in a fight. I was hoping he'd get the Renji treatment for his bankai at some point but never happened lol
for what it's worth, Ryumon Hozukimaru did allow Ikkaku to punch above his weight class exactly once at the cost of being able to do so again. Ikkakku being formally ranked as a 3rd Seat at the time was not under the Gentei Kaijyo seal when he was deployed to the World of the Living so he required a bankai in order to defeat a stronger opponent. Furthermore, Ikkaku fundamentally does NOT value his Bankai because he sees it as a liability that could cost him his ambition to serve under Kenpachi for the rest of his life and that could actually have made Ryumon Hozukimaru far more brittle specifically because of his bad relationship with his own power, which is to say with himself. He probably didn't really care all that much about what happened to it beyond Akon's ability to cobble it back together into something resembling its original shape.
to be fair about the damage transfer of Komamura's bankai: its not as much of a downside anymore when you consider that what's grievous damage to the samurai is also damage that would have cleaved Komamura himself in two due to the size difference between the two. Its easier to hit, but you need really destructive attacks for the transferred damage to be meaningful
Maybe they could make Shinji evolve his bankai to the point where he can also encase anyone he wants in a similar pod to protect them from the effects.
Rukia's bankai is very, very new. Byakuya's explanation on Bankai strength depends on the shinigami's own maturity is very spot on. She needs decades of training to improve, same as Renji.
Mayuri: Once a bankai is broken it can't be fixed Also Mayuri: I said it couldn't be fixed. I never said it couldn't be modified or upgraded. 😏 Oetsu: 😡
I would love my favourite boy Ikkaku to have a brand new bankai in the upcoming hell arc. I was thinking of him summoning a huge quantity of blades and lances of all sorts, falling and planting into the ground. He would just go all out and smash them all on his foes, while being able to chain them together. All battle choregraphy
Konjiki Ashisogi Jizo's chest blades did get used exactly once to good effect, namely in the anime-only Bount Arc when Mayuri fought Sawatari and Baura where the blades were used to deliver the final blow. That's about it.
Or Kubo just could have had Renji train it and improve his skill with it. It’s gets faster and stronger and eventually he works past his clunky unrefined skill with it. A giant lightning fast bone snake whip that shoots lasers and separates he can ride it too?! Now it’s just so basic.
The issue with Ikkaku's bankai is not that it's brittle, but it was summoned FROM a broken zampakuto, which heavily hindered it's performance. So, in theory, we have never really seen Ryuumon Hozukimaru's full potential.
Probably Ikkaku's banking feature could be the possibility to repair itself using iron in his enemy's and Ikkaku's own blood to repair and maybe re-shape itself (hello, Executioner's blade from Naruto). As Ikkaku is such a straightforward fighter, and he is also covered in his blood in every single fight he had - this could represent his toughness and love for long battles
Ikkaku's Bankai design is one of my favorite, but oh the drawback! It's like the ability Slow Start from Pokemon. Soi Fun deserves justice for how her Bankai has been used.
I'd genuinely be interested in seeing your take on a list of "strongest/most 'flawed'" female characters in bleach, maybe even female characters bankai tier list or something (I'm sure there's a way to include kisuke's bankai in all of that, but between shinigami like rukia and unohana, arrancar like nel and hallibel, quincy like ichigo's mom and that admittedly kinda underwhelming squad of girls in tybw, and honestly even zero squad's hikifune and senjumaru.... There's just alot of ground to cover with interesting and/or powerful female characters in bleach.) Bfw anyone else remember when orihime had powers and potential that was intriguing enough for aizen to literally single her out from all the other side characters, and randomly kidnap her...? No? Just me? No one else out here is all that curious on wtf that was all about with her ability to undo causality, apperantly? Oh, okay. Lol why can't kubo commit to coolifying any given female character and/or Chad.
These are my picks for the overall 'worst' Bankai in Bleach! Now like I mention in the video, that doesn't mean weak - these Bankai all suffer from flaws of some kind, but let me know your thoughts on the list! Do you agree, or would you make some changes? Thanks everyone!
I feel like Ichigos Bankai also was never used to its full capabilities. His inexperience in combat showed that often. Especially when white took over or when he was fighting white within his inner self. Like we see quite a few examples even before he learns Bankai of white using his shikai in ways we never see Ichigo try and that to me is kinda sad. So while I agree it's not incredibly powerful but give to someone with more combat experience I feel like they probably would have won against Byakuya with the same skill set
Well, at least sajin is on both lists. Feels like he got on the last one only becasue of novelty.... Rip Sajin Komamura.
I agree with the rukia statement anyone with fire powers or high speed regeneration in that state of her bankai she'd would probably lose easily she can't dodge Or block
What would u place minzuki Bankai at cause it wasn’t in either list and it’s my fav bankai as of rn
@@BalugaLord slightly above average it has versatility but lacks the information to place above some other bankai's
In fairness to Soifon's Bankai. She punched a hole in both opponents head. That is a kill shot 95% of the time. She just happen to fight two things that can live with a whole in their head.
Exactly. Kubo gives her terrible match ups.
BG9 used Vollstandig too
That’s actually a great point
Fr like if she and rukia swapped does arancars she woulded popped that glass bottle open
@0eyes yeah, it was dead for all intents and purposes
Wouldn’t surprise me if Ikakku has a false bankai. I suspect that Ikakku’s respect for Kenpachi is a kind of limiter and his zanpaktou basically thinks “hey, if you don’t actually want to try to kill the strongest fighter you know and are content to live in his shadow, I’m not giving you all of my power.”
@@Chicken_of_Bristol That's my take. Hozukimaru is probably also upset that Ikkaku actively avoids using his Bankai, so he lied to Ikkaku.
We agree with the first part. We don't agree with the why
@@studiofzd Who are you, Excellency?
@@MrGksarathy We're an art studio and fans of Bleach
@@studiofzd Ok, so this is multiple people. I was convinced you all were using the royal we.
I still hate the whole “bankais that are damaged can’t be repaired” crap. Bankais should just gradually heal once the zanpakuto is back in its sealed state.
Agreed, I'm fine with things like what Renji went through with "Your sword didn't tell you the true Bankai name" but the perma broken just has never sat well with me. While that fact did 'buff' Komamura's, it nerfed so many others.
I feel you but i actually think lore wise it is very logical obviously from a story/ writing point of view it is a easy plot device but in universe it makes sense. Because a shikai is you using the power within and with your sword as a medium bankai is the full externalation of your zanpaktou spirit kinda like how in the rebellion arc they were roaming outside just now in the form of a blade . So it makes sense that if that externalised spirit is damaged it wont just freely heal itself but keeps that damage. ( hope my bad grammar wasn’t a problem)
"Bankai that are *broken* " There is a difference.
Yea. Like he said though I don’t think kubo intended this. But for years Ikkaku was on my list for be a massive overrated character to me. He’s beaten less than mid tier guys and his bankai is garbage.
@@DEVILS_advocate05I have a feeling Kubo did his usual trick of subtly foreshadowing the plot point, but in such a way that if he decided to drop it later there would be no difference. So basically he probably did and didn't intend it.
Ikkaku is a great example of having a amazing Bankai design...only for it to be really impractical to actually use.
I've got Bankai!!!only for it to be absolutely shit.
I'd happily believe he like renji doesn't have the true name
He’s still got my second favorite bankai even though it’s quite possibly the weakest in the entire series. It just looks so freaking cool.
Isn't Ikkaku the guy that achieved Bankai but kept it a secret?
@@Charles-wu3lh Yeah, he's the guy with Kenpachi issues.
@if7723 yh he might. He's supposed to parallel eachother in that they both want to surpass or stand on equal footing with their captains. But instead of persevering like renji, ikkaku gave up and chose to be a follower instead. He's quite literally a sleeping dragon in both the power of the bankai that you have to wake up and his suppressed ego. Once he regains it tho, that will be when we see what his zanpakuto has been holding out on him.
As usual ikkaku has to be here 😔
Ikuzo, Hōzikimaru !
BANKAIYUUUUAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!
A bankai that makes it's self easier to be destroyed will always be on this list.
Well yes, he just flat out isnt that powerful lol. Only place his Bankai COULD be. Blame Kubo i guess
He still had the best reveal though
@@ZANGELIX1263kubo did him dirt
Don’t even need watch this to know Komamuras Bankai is definitely gonna be here lol
Really? Stronger and bigger than Komamura, but just as fast as he is
That's before TYBW
@@hairlessgrizzly559And considering the size, an attack hitting it is proportionally far smaller than if it hit Komamura himself. So it's sort of better defensively than it initially seems. Especially since trying to go after Komamura means taking your eyes off the unsettlingly fast giant.
As it should
@@ThatGuysCousin Yea a simple back hand shattered Tosen's arm
@hairlessgrizzly559 And if you're just a bit faster an entree of equite week points
Ill never get sick of bleach as long as i have MrTommo explaining it
Agreed!
I couldn’t agree with this more.
He makes even going over the same content enjoyable, and it’s why I keep coming back despite not really being that big of a fan of the series
But if he ever stops I'll still enjoy it!
thats so relatable
The fact that Bankai cannot be repaired is probably my least favourite twist in all of Bleach. Especially with how much it seems the story has to bend over backwards to make exceptions like Mayuri and Komamura.
I feel like the only reason to include that was to send ichigo to the Soul Palace, but there would have been other ways to achieve that.
(just let Mayuri say he can't repair the Bankai for the same reason the Quincy couldn't steal it or something to that effect. Idk I'm sure there would have been other explanaitions.)
The arguably doesn't even apply to Ichigo anymore (or might not even matter in the story), since we know Inoue can just "reject" any broken Bankai back to its original state. I don't consider it unreasonable to assume we were told the rule in the first place just for the "OH ****" moment when Yhwach broke Ichigo's Bankai, only for Inoue to "reject" the broken Tensa Zangetsu once the moment's purpose was served - to show off Yhwach's "The Almighty" and to temporarily defeat Ichigo and have his power stolen.
Don’t forget how Kubo had to retcon Renji’s bankai being completely shattered. After his fight with Byakuya it should be banished to the shadow realm, but somehow it only lost a few bones… Right.
@@Catalyst375 But I thought Orihime Inoue can only do that with the help of Tsukishima?
@@xenoemblem7That was only to counter the Almighty.😊
@@MrGksarathy It says something when the only thing that can keep her power from working, other than dying when she's not around, is a power that literally decides "what will happen and what will not", and the man who possessed that power died only three chapters later.
Ichigo's fake bankai is pretty impressive especially it's first appearance however in arrancar arc it seems pretty weak not because it's actually weak but due to other several factors like the substitute badge limiting ichigo's power and him not accepting his hollow which is ichigo directly rejecting his zanpaktou. His mental and emotional state were making his bankai look weak.
Not to me forget too, hollows are stronger in their domain!
Yes, I agree. Didn't byakuya say that he only lost because he didn't really have control over his Bankai and destroyed the incredible speed and strength of his own body because he couldn't handle it yet?
For me it just shows that bankai is very strong, too strong. Ichigo could have defeated Bbyakuya at the beginning, but he didn't want to, he just wanted to humiliate him.
I think in the Arrancar arc Ichigo never really used the full power of his Bankai because he knew from that point on that his body wouldn't be able to handle it and he wouldn't be able to move again.
Ulquiorra hit this on the head on his first arrival in the human world
@@FuchsfeuerI think the issue in such an approach is He Doesn’t Know that Íchígō’s White Zángètsū is Still JUST in his own spirit body… (why the mask keeps appearing over serious wounds… & maybe some blūt if they’re not too busy within the blade…) so the more wounds the more desire for the Hollow Shīnígámí form to Take over… BUT props to Black TènsàZángètsū or Yhwachígō (or whatever we should call him) somehow Stopping Shírō from Just murdering captain Kūchīkí a few moments later with Kūrōsákí’s bare slightly hollowfied hands… which Probably would’ve gotten people more serious instead of “wait… why were we killing Rukia again?! Dead peoples’ orders that are actually Aîzèn who’s Faked his own death?! Really not cool bro!” : D
It does, however, make me wonder how an unsealsealable sword made of Yhwach’s soul down some Ëcht Quincy plus royal Shíbà family blood got so easily cut by Haschwalthe… well I guess it makes sense that the second in command who often holds the Allmighty whenever it’s “QuincyKing Naptime” WOULD be able to break a Lesser Yhwach who probably doesn’t Like being in some Shīnígámí Zánpákūtō form… though he’s Not gonna be wielded by some bloody Àrráncár… so that made sense… hmm…
Excuse my rambles, but I totally count that Victory as White Tènsà Zángètsū’s partial manifestation through Kūrōsákí Spirit Body which of course leads up to the Vástō Lordé form at climax of hüécō múndō… though I’ve got mixed feelings on the Fullbring form mixing the whole human hollow shinigami Réīô bits manifested from… I dunno wasn’t it loosely implied to be Proximity to Rukia in her sealed Temporary Human Body containing the hōgïôkū which awakened all the Kárákūrà Town kids’ crazy abilities?! Brings into question whether this explains the “child” security work at the local candy shop from Unusually Successful ModSouls… if he ever broke his Bánkaî might they be turned into some shaky Kūrōtsūchí style New Bánkaî form?! Could this explain the Puppet Hand form he uses in BBS’ ranged Kísūké “Beyond Bánkaî” series form?!
Do we still get something wild like the weird forms which feel like Shūnsüí & Ūkītáké’s twin sword spirits had been quite seriously dating?! : D hehe just saying those two forms are like the thematics of eachothers’s shíkaî forms were mixed into their Bánkaî forms in a really unusual but cool way WHICH does sound totally doable for Shūnsüí’s Bánkaî if he made the right play to mix the theming of their blades so each could use eachothers abilities collaboratively…
But then again Ūkītáké’s capabilities in using even Cérō réīátsū does Potentially imply that simply holding hands and sharing a small amount of réīátsū from a comrade’s zánpákūtō should Allow for something that wild…
I think we even have the Gemini twin fishes in the pond beneath Shūnsüí’s special attack animation, whilst he still sends strange spinning tops rather liberally, unless I’m remembering multiple Shūnsüí forms in BBS which… I do tend to mix up my ranged and short but still ranged attackers… would I call them midranged? Maybe? I dunno…. : D
There’s a Lot to consider when it’s the only spot we get more Exploration of Sword Forms that go beyond anything we see from most featured characters in the show…
& I love the alternating 2 character forms… would’ve LOVED a Ranged Zángètsū with a switching between Black & White forms coming naturally on some specials but maybe the ultimate is the both of them OR the Íchígō with them both moving around or with him on different normal attacks… but that could be its Own Íchígō transformation for his true shíkaî maybe?
Where’s the Alternate Double Original Bánkaî forms with a shifting Vasto Lordé with Blūt Vein? that would’ve sold a Lot of units as an anniversary piece… JUST Saying….
Love them doing form change stuff with some characters… feel more Need for That!
Though I wish we had this in a Warriors style game on consoles but that’d be basically a Cooler Version of BBS for consoles where all maps and graphics etc are better and would probably be totally overpriced to attempt developing so that the characters couldn’t be that expansive which… is a bummer…
Though if we had that much customisation built into characters in a system like Kakarot where they include the Zánpákūtō filler arc & a New Game + where you can throw in whichever version of whichever characters unlocked (like in a Pirate Warriors 4 style game) then we’d be able to switch between various characters or even have specific Combo abilities… which Some might be more complex like the Rángíkū & Tōshīrō twin shíkaî combination attacks thing from at least 1-2 fights…
Some Zánpákūtō feel like they’d work quite nicely in collaborative moves with particular characters depending on kídō skills…
Can ANYONE potentially functionally imitate a flaming gètsūgà tènshō?? Cause just a réīátsū heavy sword slash with… Shákàhō maybe? I dunno… just thinking about all them “Kídō type” zánpákūtō & if it isn’t a mix of instinct & natural proclivity for some specific Kídō that’s naturally part of their soul… but then I’m gonna write a whol Fookin essay about it if I don’t stop myself now!
There’s a LOT to work with if you can have any number of Kídō abilities learnable as an aspect of customising moves with your blade or training the character to do the fancy stuff other zánpákūtō seem to naturally do…
But then I just made a really epic and time taking game where maybe you develop the signature moves in training as each character from mixing weird Kídō in strange ways with sword moves that are particular to their blade shape & personalities? Just ideas…
Hope game devs working on bleach games somewhere are hearing this and seeing how many different directions they can have fun with that…
But then there’s the aspect of having Transformation for Both Blade & Body which would be more dramatic for some characters like Íchígō… which I bet the mechanics could be even set up so it’s misleading & makes sense if white’s réīátsū gets too charged & nowhere to go in the Bïákūïà fight in soul society… that could make sense & then there’s some awareness of the Soul having these different inner souls growing & expending réīátsū in different ways… just thought of too many other ways to overcomplicate this to be way too cool a concept… be fun have some options like having attacks still in Japanese even if dialogue is in English… just ideas… (excuse the rambles folks…)
Don’t forget is that using the mask is for ichigo to unleash his full fake bankai. Zangetsu is limiting his soul reaper powers and the hollow mask shows how much of that seal weakens.
So we should always counts the hollow mask ichigo to ichigos fake bankai.
It’s a shame Ikkaku couldn’t go to the Soul Palace as well and had a new Bankai forged. Imagine how much more useful he could’ve been in TYBW because he just stayed getting shafted and wasn’t gonna do much with a broken Bankai.
I think it’s an anime troupe at this point to have a awesome character do something really cool once and never be used in the story in that cool way ever again lol
I still think this will happen because there's no way Ryumon Hozukimaru is his true Bankai. If Zabimaru saw fit to lie to Renji like that, Hozukimaru would do the same, especially given Ikkaku's reluctance to use it.
Nah I think we will see him use like his actual true name bankai in the hell ark.
The bankai lore revealed in the final arc really shifts the way you perceive Ikkaku in the fake katakura arc. Dude got fleeced for not using his bankai and losing the battle when he probably knew full well his bankai is now worthless but he’s too ashamed to admit it to his peers.
@@Limxuv Ikkaku seems like the kind of meathead who actually didn't know that.
Imagine if ikaku keep using his bankai, the sword chipped little by little, and after some time, his bankai is only a handle 😭😭😭
What a cleaver way to Nerf your system kubo
If you think about it, that's kinda perfect for him. His captain went through almost the entire series without ever having unlocked his shikai and was one of the most fearsome combatants. When he finally unlocked Shikai, he lost Yachiru. When he finally unlocked Bankai, he almost died.
If you think about Ikkaku's personality, he's not one to use any sort of special power. Hozukimaru doesn't even do anything special. It's just a segmented staff.
My point is that he's fallen right into the Yoruichi camp, where they are so good, or can get so good, they don't NEED to use bankai.
Will the Vizard injustices ever end?
No………No they won’t.
@@CaptainKotetsu The Visored are even less useful than Isane.
And that sucks, being hollowfied was supposed to be a powerup, A POWERUP. Also, Sakanade would likely be terrifying to anyone below the level of Shinigami Aizen, I mean seriously, Sakanade messed up Aizen Sosuke of all people, thus proving that in all likelihood it could likely mess up the likes of Yamamoto, Unohana, and the Zero division somewhat.
ALL we needed was Shūnsüí yelling at some really dramatic Moment like Maybe the Gerard fight?
“Captains of the- no… Everyone that can bloody Hollowfy! Get ready to dodge crazier than ever before, if you can… Everyone eat your bloody Hollowfication pills again AND ALL Visored members, Hell; Even Non Gōtéī, any Àrráncárs Here?! Everyone with a Bit of Hollow Réīátsū, Unleash as Many Cérō blasts as you Possibly Can!!!”
THAT could be dramatic as hell!
I wonder if Aîzèn can do a more advanced better control Properly Transcendent but not in a nasty way Form whilst he has multiple clone bodies… & whatever abilities from the bloody Multiple Réīô pieces in his double hōgïōkū (or whatever transliteration works) that allows for him to not get Almighty-fookt the second Yhwach feels like it… I hope we get him at the end saying “when were you under the impression I wasn’t already using my Bánkaî?! I had to learn to use both forms of my blade together simultaneously which… it’s not a lot of hypnotising oneself after you get used to it…” or something to indicated we’d never remember him having said Bánkaî because HE KNEW the ability to steal it of quincies or something & already stole whatever from whoever and actually was also just chilling in Réīôtown any time he felt like it without anyone knowing he was there cause he didn’t want them to…
Maybe he’s already hypnotised the Réīô corpse to pass the íràzūsándō or however we were meant to spell/transliterste it? Hehe
I bet he knows the Réīô Candidacy stuff already… that bit can expand the Kísūké & aîzèn commenting on the Réīô a Lot heavier…
But who knows how much was intended vs Added & so on…
Meanwhile fans are bloody powerscaling or whatever… but, of course they are… : D
All we need is New Commander to Shout “Hollowfy!” In whatever conditional variant & I know he’d try and do cool dramatic closeups BUT it might be scarier for the Quincies if we see the Cérō & limb ripping happening faster than the Quincies can see it?
At least some Sákànádé Multi-Shīnjí Clone nō Jūtsū Cérō with hollow sounds Action?
Maybe one of them bleeding does an accidental Gran Rey Cérō?
Just some ideas for making them feel… at least above the level of people stuck in the living realm for 100 years…
& Quincies SHOULD be offguard oneshotted by Visored captains!
More Kísūké hollowfication pill action! We all want Vengence for Hüécō Múndō! : D
Can’t just be Shīnjí took out a small group of soldat right?! Let the man shoot some Cérōs with his mask later on!
Màÿúrí should be doing some crazy stuff with his zombie corps right?!
@@SeiyaTempest Hey, Isane heals people. She may be useless in a fight, but you really need someone who can reattach your arm and stuff. Half the time i just forget the Vizard exist though...
What injustice?
Ichigo Don't use BANKAI on a fodder enemy challenge.
Level: Impossible
"with this treasure I summon" lookin ass mf lol
So DO use it on the FODDER though????? just not on the tough guys
@@Lornda crap you got me there
@@Lornda *Shinji has entered the chat*
The only way Ryūmon Hozukimaru could be worth using is if the dragon crest loading further powered it up past the 5-10X increases all Shinigami receive while using Bankai. As it is now, it’s incredibly unimpressive.
Similar to renjis being very impractical with the whole giant dragon that even petal boy took down easily.... Renji did eventually get his true name bankai and I suspect it's the same with him too I don't think Ryūmon Hozukimaru is his true bankai.
It's main appeal was its sheer power, now it doesn't have that anymore. Honestly, if he had gone all out from the beginning, maybe he could've defeated that Fraccion without breaking his Bankai. This is honestly a great way to make a cool character look bad imo.
There’s only two ways to solve Ikkaku’s situation, 1. Tsukishima cuts Ikkaku’s zanpakutoh and resets it to what it was before his fight in the arrancar arc. 2. Send Ikkaku to train with the Zero squad and talk to the ZANPAKUTOH CREATOR. What if this is not Ikkaku’s real bankai?
Orihime can restore it by rejecting the reality that it ever broke
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 They definitely don't have the Yhwach excuse for that one.
We think Kubo revealed Ichigo's true bankai to explain that he's the only one to have a fully realized zanpakuto outside of the Zero Division and Yamamoto. Soi Fon and Ikkaku follow warriors and ideals that are nothing like themselves, and we know that the essence of the zanpakuto is actually the wielder. The fact that Soi Fon dislikes her bankai when it resembles her tenacity and style more than anything is probably why it hasn't evolved further. She behaves with flashes of aggression or passion even when she tries to be calm to save face for her role, and is more like a destructive wind than a bolt of lightning. Ikkaku literally has to wake up his bankai as if it doesn't respect how he wields it, which is probably because it actually has abilities outside of direct combat. That might be why it fills with red reiatsu; it could be a weapon that's meant to have energy projections or something more. Yet, because Ikkaku and Soi Fon attempt to fight like Yuroichi and Zaraki, their zanpakuto MUST feel betrayed in some sense, as they can probably tell that even Zaraki and Yuroichi don't necessarily have above average bonds with their zanpakuto. Renji cared more for others than he did for himself. His initial bankai seemed to be more of a protector type than his new offensive type bankai. Shinji and Kensei haven't even fully embraced their hollow aspects, which is now probably hindering them from reaching the depths of their bankai and evolving them further. Komamura had to be willing to return to his true form in order to achieve his realized bankai, but because of the process, he ended up losing access to it afterwards. He literally became immortal and evolved his bankai just from that sacrifice, almost somewhat synchronizing with his zanpakuto on a level of "fusion" that seemed to be there but was hidden by the armor (mask) that he wore to hide. Mayuri? He's just awesome. The man refuses to live with himself. He's reaching out for perfection on a constant basis while running from the quiet, calm peace he seems to neglect. It takes him losing something for him to realize what he had, and it's an endless cycle of the hamster wheel for him. Kind of like running in the Buddha's palm.
It’s an assumption that Shinji and Kensei’s Bankai aren’t fully developed. Not every character doesn’t have their Bankai in it’s true form, it’s actually rare to not have your Bankai in it’s true form. Aside from Ichigo and Ginjo who are exceptions due to being substitutes and not having Asauchi, it’s really just Toshiro for being immature when it comes to power and experience, and Renji for not being respected by his zanpakuto
@@jocoolshow We agree on your stance about Ginjo and Ichigo. However, we believe Kubo proved with Byakuya's enhanced Shikai and Bankai that they aren't fully developed. Based on what we've read, it appears that Kubo is telling his fans that the use of the zanpakuto is similar to Hollows, as once you've fully become one with your zanpakuto, you transcend Bankai. And, thus, your Shikai and Bankai will develop further or become something else. Similar to Aizen fusing with is zanapkuto, a character could be able to manifest their abilities without the zanpakuto.
We believe you can actualize a Bankai and even master it, but becoming one with it takes much more time or other situations, as it is literally your subconscious self separate from your being. Each character has flaws that, if you back away from the story, you can see Kubo laid out in their abilities. Shinji and Kensei are no longer what they used to be genetically, which could give credence that their Bankai may not have developed due to their inability to perform a resurreccion similar to Kaname or Ichigo. Heck, they may have abilities that they just haven't showcased yet since we haven't seen the vizards flex new hybrid powers outside of Hachigen.
A character may have Bankai that is powerful that they've bonded with and mastered over time, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's fully developed. But, that's just what we think. You could be 1000% right. Thank you for the response!
@@studiofzd To further add on to your point, the zanpakuto IS the shinigami. It grows with the shinigami as the shinigami learns new things about themselves, adopting new philosophies, personality traits, etc.
This is why meditation is so important to their power system compared to hollows who need to feast on other hollows (rather than inner peace and discovering themselves, they need to hone their instinct to dominate and justify their existence over another creature).
As the shinigami lives, that shinigami will learn new things about themselves and the world around them and those experiences integrate into their soul, and thus into the zanpakuto, because it IS them.
So, I reject the idea that there is such a thing as true bankai.
I believe your zanpakuto changes over time as you understand yourself, hence why meditation is important to the shinigami to learn.
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@@HOLDENPOPE We're an art studio. Sorry for any confusion
dont forget that sanpakutou/bankais are CONNECTED to their soul, their personality.
Aizen having that shikai shows how shrewd/conman he is.
Ikkaku, being a strong but kind of laid-back shows on his bankai. Strong but brittle.
Can bankais change? I feel like Soi-Fons bratty and loud personality reflects strongly on hers
@@Mortarion-xt9wpwhat I always believed is that the Shikai represents the surface level personality. Minazuki, Suzumebachi, and others really show this off. Their Shikai represent how they show themselves (and are likely subject to change) and the bankai is the true self
We somewhat agree
And...?
Ikkaku needs to find his hunger back.
Ashame this doesnt include Filler, so we cant put Shusuke Amagai for his dumb looking flame conch shell Bankai lol
All hail The Magic Conch!
@@urameshitrev1851 honestly shusuke isn't even that bad, he fused his bankai with something else so I can give him a pass
That other guy with the flower petals was worse😂
@@elaizakaguya4631 I had to google that guy, cause he's so forgettable but yes, his name is Kenryuu and his shikai was called Benishidare.
And it's power was...to sprout flowers on your opponents weapon (it is unclear how this helps in battle, and they can be blown off pretty easily) and he attacks one time, and it just looks like a much worse Senbonzakura lol.
@@urameshitrev1851the petals did turn into blades too, so I could see the potential in a shikai that can cause your own weapon to sprout blades against you. Or even worse, put flowers on your body and impale you immediatly.
Bootleg senbonzakura 😅
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I would love a short story where Ikaku takes a journey to find oetsu And gets an upgraded bankai.
I bet that Ikkaku's Bankai was a half one like Renji's was. He's probably been training in secret this whole time to make it better since it broke.
Yeah, Ichigo’s original Bankai deserves to be here. Grimmjow straight up mocks it, calling the speed boost “mediocre”
I personally wouldn't say that Ichigo's original bankai wasn't enough to beat Byakuya. It was just the fact that his body couldn't handle it yet. The stress of using it was taking its toll after awhile
Doesn't White say that Ichigo's body is being crushed under his own spiritual pressure?
Ichigo was totally exhausted and damaged from his training as well.
We disagree, but respect your opinion
@@davidwhidden9337 I don't think so because he was in that hot tub thing to heal fast.
Ichigo proved that he could've killed Byakuya at least twice during the fight after activating his bankai, before Zangetsu took over. As someone mentioned even Zangetsu comments on how the strain of his bankai's SP is affecting him. He just obtained bankai, his body couldn't possibly be ready to handle using it for long periods
@@vapor.6292yeah, he could have wrapped and tapped in no time but he wanted the hands so much it crushed him.
I like to believe that Sui feng's bankai lied to her in the same way that Renji's did. It represents her wild and explosive side, which is a bit uncontrolled and a testimate to her arrogance. She legitimately believed that she invented shunko that she could defeat Yoruichi. Her pride as the number 1 assassin kind of betrays her, and is very counter to what you'd expect from an assassin: someone cool and collected and inconspicuous enough to be forgettable in a crowd. She never controlled that pride or that anger so her bankai was loud and unusable for an assassin.
However, if she *were* to control that hot streak and contain her anger, I like to think her true bankai would follow suit. That massive missile would be contained in a casing: instead of shooting rockets they'd be bullets fired from a sniper rifle similar to Lillie Barro. Thus she'd get the power to assassinate in one "strike" in true assassin fashion: inencumbered and potentially hidden. Her reticle in a scope could be the butterfly target she places on enemies as well!
Ichigo's "bankai" isn't even a bankai. Hell, it's not even a real Zanpakuto. What we see Ichigo use for the majority of Bleach is a reishi weapon manipulated by Old Man Zangetsu to change form depending on how deep Ichigo taps into his soul reaper powers. It's also why Ichigo only really uses hollow powers while in Bankai
We agree
In a way, it actually might be a version of a Ressereccion. Old Man Zangetsu using the inner hollow to imitate Bankai. When the old man is in control, he can manipulate the Ressereccion to act as a Bankai, but when the hollow takes control, he tries to use it as it’s meant to be used, pure hollow form.
@@mikesmoviemadness24 It's something different, something completely new and insular in Bleach. No other being in all of Bleach has a part Hollow, part Shinigami Zanpakuto spirit. Arrancars use the part of their mask they ripped off and turn it into a Zanpakuto with no spirit inside while the Vizards have an additional hollow inside them. Both types of beings are imperfect. But Ichigo? He was perfected. One entity, two races in one, initially made the same way as Asauchis, bonded with Shinigami powers to become that perfected hybrid spirit. In a way Ichigo has a completely new release because he theoretically uses a hybrid of Bankai and Ressureccion.
Yup its not even half of his true power.... His power come from hollow which Is suppress by old man zangetsu... Plus even when Ichigo using bankai he was stupidly strong against Aizen army and fight against most strongest Espada 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I think his Powers and Zanpaktou matured tremendously in Bleach Series + when he starts new game With Fullbring arc he gotten godly power from every Captain ,lieutenant and Yamajii himself to restore ichigo power + Fullbring + Vasto Lorde shiro + ywach soul piece this is all before his True Awakening 😨😨😨 After TYBW his body is like godlike like Squad Zero lvl 🔥🔥🔥🔥 20:38
I mean yes and no. It's false in the sense that it's not an asauchi but it's real in the sense that zangetsu is his zanpakto. His hollow powers are his shinigami/zanpakto powers. Ichigo refusing his heritage is what made them feel like separate powers. Best example I can give is when hikone uses shunpo, sonido, and hirenkyaku all mixed together to create a new faster form of movement. He's not using them separately although they are all separate techniques. Also the statement about hollow only using his hollow powers in only bankai is false. When he initially gets shikai he has the mask. It also manifest itself to save ichigo from a body shot before he learns bankai. And during his hollow training where he fully hollowfies he wasn't in bankai. The reason we see him use it in bankai is for 2 reasons. Power creep and ichigos hesitance to accept his hollow side. Why go hollow for his 10 second limit when he can go bankai? It was more of a trump card initially. Then if his opponent is too strong he can use it when needed. Which we see against grimmjaw. Then again in his last fight against ulquiorra but only after fighting him in bankai for a while. Then after that we don't ever really see it again with the exception of a brief moment against yammy. And that's when he started fearing the power again.
Ikkaku was hiding his Bankai and thus quite possibly didn't know how vulnerable they are. And it fits with something Byakuya said to Renji back in the Soul Society Arc: that you need a decade of experience with your Bankai before you're ready to use it in combat.
Which is true because the way you gain experience is through literal combat... And the ones who get near death experiences have their powers skyrocket up... Like with Izuru after nearly dying he gained a LOT of power and easily took out one of those Quincys.
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I've always believed that the fact that Ikkaku hated even having a bankai weakened it substantially, that self rejection causing it to either never show its true power, or making as brittle as it was. He was always holding himself to never stand out, and it shows.
its funny how the Bankai revealed in TYBW almost all had massive drawbacks. Not something we really saw in Bleach before.
We believe that's because they all have drawbacks. The characters who didn't use their Bankai before were able to get by with the powers and abilities they had outside of Bankai, especially the Vizards, Zaraki, Kyoraku, and Yamamoto. However, Yamamoto had already proven to be a threat to everyone with Wonderweiss
That's because alot of the early Bankai were just 'shikai but better' while the later stuff was more gimmicky and hax-based.
@@Eugene_TEC We disagree, but respect your opinion
@@studiofzdthere's a lot of you guys in there? 👀
Also, he's not wrong. Even Byakuya told Ichigo that his bankai is too small to be itself, because in his perception bankai was a shikai but better or bigger.
@@Prushinthespirit We believe that was Kubo just planting seeds. But, hey, maybe you guys are right. Maybe Kubo didn't know where the story was going, that would make people feel better about their theories because it would show that the writer had to come up with ideas on the fly. Our theory is he knew more than he put out and possibly made changes as time went on, like most artists who get better over time. Even when Kubo answers questions, he doesn't always outright give full details, which is smart. The story isn't over for him, so giving away too many details could end up in an Obito/Tobi revelation too early.
We believe he showed Uryu getting his powers back to foreshadow Rukia stabbing Ichigo in the fullbringer arc to grant his Quincy powers again, reawakening his Shrift "The Shinigami" or something similar. We believe Kubo knew to showcase everyone's flaws and spirits with their zanpakuto in the Zanpakuto Unknown Tales arc to explain why each of the shinigami have not fully accepted their subconscious selves. We believe Kubo used Byakuya as a means to explain what HIS Bankai was at the moment he stated what you said, because...let's be real...that pretty much is what Byakuya's Bankai is, "Shikai but better" (and now his Shikai pretty much is his former Bankai).
It’s so clear the broken bankai idea was not supposed to be a thing between ikkaku and komamura. But it’s a real shame it makes ikkaku look so bad.
I don't think so because we did see Hihio Zabimaru was missing the segments Byakuya destroyed.
I could believe that Kubo hadn't fully decided if he'd commit to that plot point, though.
@@MrGksarathy the amount of segments increases and decreases tho. He’s just inconsistent about it. It’s not a brilliant subtle foreshadowing.
ya it was clearly never meant to be a thing ashisogi jizou got split in 2 during its first fight in the series and i think tousens bankai burst as well but that may have just been because he was beaten and it went away but still it was clear it was never meant to be an actual plot point and was just an excuse to give ichigo a new zanpaktou
@@insertname5371 Even then, some of them look clearly broken after the Byakuya fight and stay that way.
@@kawainessa Tousen was just defeated after Zaraki clocked him. Ashisogi Jizou also feels kinda different, given that it can be modified by Mayuri to create a new form, and he can change the poison on the fly. Not to mention, the revelation that its body is Mayuri's 4th attempt at creating artificial life, so perhaps the true power of the Zanpakuto is modification.
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Shinji's situation makes me wonder how his proof of Bankai Captain requirement went. 😅
I mean, it's banned for a reason.
Oh right!
Hopefully he stopped it in time...
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First it’s not actually banned, that’s a misconception. Second, this is headcanon but I like to think that he went out into the Rukongai to affect pack animals and that was observed from a distance.
@@Sepheus13 well a self-imposed ban is still a ban in my book.
Also maybe he demonstrated it on hollows? It just occurred to me (lol)
@@Mortarion-xt9wp that sounds more feasible than what I thought
@@Mortarion-xt9wp There still has to be three captains present. Who would have seen the Bankai. Perhaps they saw from a distance outside it's actual range.
Since this is a video on bankai I was reading CFYOW and I realized something that isn't talked about while we have seen/read Hisagis bankai we have only seen the beginning of it. At the end of the TYBW Hisagi says he's mastered his bankai and we haven't seen that. The point I am bringing up is that the issues we discovered with his bankai could have been removed or are less of an issue now that he has mastered his bankai. For example while this is speculation it could be possible that his bankai could give him enough spirit energy to either escape the battle or finish the fight without the need of a partner. I bring this up be Byakuya has told Renji that it takes ten years to master bankai Renji had issues with his bankai before he truly understood and became worthy of its true power.
You probably won’t see this but remember how it was stated Yamamoto’s bankai changed over the years and got the North East South West thing, what if you did a video on other bankai if they were to develop that far?
A little theory I have about why Ikkaku's Bankai breaks so easily is it actually reflects his desire to not reveal it something to prop him for a Captain.
He said it himself that he refuses to allow anyone to view it, or else they may recommend him as a Captain for a future vacancy in another squad. This then means he wouldn't serve under Kenpachi.
So, if he were to use it and there were witnesses, the blade would be permanently broken to erase any chances of recommendation as he now lacks the prerequisite Bankai.
So the Bankai is low-key more inline with Ikkaku than we previously thought.
He did go to Mayuri to try and get it fixed however. Suggesting he knew Mayuri would actually respect his wishes [and did until he accidentally mentioned it when explaining to Ichigo about his bankai]
Soi Fon went up against Baraggan aging her rocket, and BG9 had to use Vollstandig to make it out.
One thing I never understood was why did BG9 get completely paralyzed by the poisoning, leaving him open to Soi Fon’s Bankai, while Cang Du can still move somewhat freely and even attack? One would imagine that the one who is a machine would be less susceptible to poisoning, especially when he didn’t have the stolen Bankai out unlike Cang Du when the Captains got their Bankais back. It’s also a shame that Soi Fon didn’t get a Hollowfication design like Toshiro did.
Maybe BG9 being more machine than human could cause more damage.
BG9 glitched out. It was probably interfering with his systems. Also Soi Fon isn’t a fan favorite so no cool hollow mask or an actual good fight. Those are for popular characters.
We learn later that he wasn't using the full Bankai, which could be the main reason it didn't hit him as hard. Based on what we see in the manga, Hitsugaya's initial Bankai is more like a second level Shikai that melts into its true Bankai
Cause both were poisoned by the hollow bankai
Bg9 is a machine with quincy reishi so yes hollow can poison it
I just rewatched Bleach fade to black movie and Hihio Zabimaru is tooooo Cooool want people to respect it already 😮
Honestly my ruling for Bankai's is simple. "Are there Shikai that I would consider stronger?" And honesly a few character's Shikai ruin that for everyone.
Shinjis' bankai is really interesting in that it's power and usefulness is mostly dictated by the base power of its user. If Shinji just had a higher base power level (on par with some of the stronger captains) then he could be safe knowing that in a 1 on 1, or a situation where it was him and some allies vs a number of enemies, he would still most likely win by sheer strength while in a situation where he was completely outnumbered he could just whip out his bankai and let his enemies do the hard work for him. The big issue is that without his swords' ability to rely on, he almost always gets completely dumpstered 😂 he's sort of a weird mirror of yamamoto in that regard, yamamoto can't just break out his bankai anywhere without the issue of potential destroying the place and its people, but he's able to get around that by not needing his bankai to be incredibly powerful and win fights. Shinji on the other hand is only really useful if the power of his sword works, which weirdly makes the power of his bankai seem worse.
I’m genuinely convinced soifon’s Shikai is better than her Bankai
Like I feel Kubo knew her Shikai was OP and that’s why most of her major opponents were enemies it couldn’t work on like Barragan and BG9
And that’s why all her fights are fuckin lame. Somehow all her opponents are immune to her powers or know how to counter them like Yoruichi and BG9 knowing how to shut down her Shunko so she doesn’t use it either. Also her Bankai never works because of purposely bad match ups. Kubo never even let us see what her perfected Shunko can fully do. I’m still annoyed we never got to see an all out fully optimized Soi Fon with Shikai, Shunko, and flash step clones used at the same time against someone that isn’t immune to her existence.
Konjiki ashizogi jizo's real ability is actually making any enemy wonder ,,wtf is that thing?"
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I wonder, now that Ikkaku is the lieutenant of Squad 11, will he be more willing to use his Bankai? The main reason he did not wanna use it originally was that he feared he'd be forcefully promoted to another Squad if they learned of his Bankai, and he wanted to serve under Kenpachi forever. But as a lieutenant, him using Bankai is no big deal so maybe he'll be more willing to use it?
His bankai is broken though so it probably isn't that useful. You can't completely fix a bankai outside of the royal palace
Sorry, Diaguren Hyorinmaru NEEDS to be last on the list of weakest Bankai. He's been smoked several times while activated and couldn't kill Harribel with, at the time, the most powerful attack available to him.
3 Points:
-Shinji's Bankai is not useless in one-on-one fights, it will make the opponent think that Shinji is an ally and he will be able to make a free attack on the opponent, it only works once per fight, but it can define the winner with just this free attack.
-Ichigo would only lose to Byakuya because he didn't want to finish him off with that first quick attack, if it were Soi Fon, Byakuya would be dead on the ground, and speaking of her
-Soi Fon simply uses her Bankai the wrong way, her shikai is to kill in 2 hits in close combat while the Bankai should work like a cruise missile, hitting enemies hundreds of kilometers away, still being an assassination Bankai, but it kills out of visual range, without Soi Fon having to get close, the death of the skies that does not announce itself or fight, it just explodes.
Best part of this video... mentioning kamishini no yari being missed on the top 10 video. Lol that actually made me unexpectedly smile
Shinji’s Bankai brings so many questions - friends become foes. What about those who are foes already? What if an Arrancar, Quincy, Shinigami, and fullbringer are in the same vicinity and they all hate/are neutral to each other?
Where his shikai reverses your senses, his bankai reverses your perceptions. So i think if all factions where there, then the perceptions being neutral reverse and become volatile. Achieving the same effect i guess 🤷🏻♂️ haha
Presumably they would become friends.
1. Ichibe- If you think about it, it really doesn't do anything his Shikai doesn't.
2. Ikakku- big fragile sword that isn't that strong
3. Renji- more versatile than ikkaku but same problems
4. Kensei- doesn't do enough damage for how limited it is
5. Soifon- ...idk why this is her bankai of all things
6. Ginjo- Tensa Zangetsu at home, which is still pretty good tbf
7. Shinji- Way too situational
Ichibes shikai and bankai are op liar
@@lolsnez7542 His Shikai is OP. His Bankai is redundant
@@Eugene_TEC Nope. His shikai allows him to blot out names thus removing someone's power plus drain all the darkness from someone.
His bankai allows him to completely change that thing's name rewriting them entirely. He could easily use this to empower others since any word he writes will change that thing, something his shikai can't do at all.
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You reminded me that Soifon lost her arm. And got it back. I some reason thought it was Orihime but double checking it was said the Gotei 13 healed it (Reddit/Qora showing manga info panel). If the Gotei 13 healed/restored her arm, why didn't Yamamoto have his restored? TWBW seemed to state he had too much pride to let a human (Orihime) fix it but why not the Gotei 13?
I guess if it was the Gotei 13 it was probably Unohana specifically. She's the only one who seems like she'd have that level of skill. But maybe Mayuri, assuming Soifon was willing to let the guy near her.
@@shadenox8164 Those are my two likely suspects (assuming some of the things Mayuri does to himself can be done to others easily). But still doesn't explain why Yamamoto wouldn't tell a Shinigami to fix his arm.
I wish the enhanced speed of Tensa Zangetsu was used more because that was its coolest aspect to me and at some point it devolved to just a boost to all of Ichigo base stats
He broke all his bones tho when he did that the first time. Probably the reason why he stops doing it.
Ngl, I love Jakuho Raikoben a lot, probably more than most, but even I cannot argue with its placement here. I wish just one time, ONCE, it did what it was supposed to and just took out an enemy in one shot.
Side tangent, I hope Soi Fon gets something to do in the royal palace in the anime. She just kinda disappears in the source material, I think we’re supposed to assume Lille Barrow snipes her, but I really hope we get see her again. Doubt we’ll get her bankai again, but just like something. Anything.
@@zephyr1249 Blame Kubo and his obsession with putting her against the worst possible opponents that hard counter her powers and abilities.
I'd argue with its placement here. It's simple but can be used for both destruction of enemies en masse or single entity targets. Also it seems like in TYBW, in comparison to Arrancar arc, its damaging effect was much more concentrated, with more impact on target itself and less collateral damage, since she was so close to her target this time.
And, quite importantly, it can be used repeatedly and isn't easy to destroy since it's projectile meant to be fired and detonated. A number of shots available and concentration of damage seem to be factors which are subjective to change via further training.
As for her role in TYBW, I'd guess few times she could play a role. Such as:
1) Give the rest of Gotei time to play as decoy against Lille, even if she's out of the game eventually. Others can't use flash step but she still has her shunko and training.
2) Fire her bankai at Gerard in one if his final forms.
3) Save Yoruichi and Urahara after their fight against Askin. If her filler ability to neutralise any poisonous effect with her shikai mark is made canon, she could use that to help them out.
If you haven't already, I'd be interested to see how you'd redesign Ikkaku's bankai within the context of the story to be better.
As always thanks for the content! A vid idea would be to see how has the best relationship with there zanpukto? I was remembering the conversation that Shinji had with Sakande when he was speaking to it saying you're soo reveresed that's why the bankai is for small fry and the shikai is for the big target
Ikkaku has one of my favorite bankai ironically
It hurts that one of my favorite characters has the weakest Bankai
MrTommo: there are no “weak” Bankai
Ryumon Hōzukimaru: allow me to introduce myself.
Does anyone else kind of want the MrTommo sign that’s on the wall in the background of the video of his office especially after watching his videos for a few years? Also I kind of wish we would have seen them reforge ikkaku’s bankai given how much attention he got throughout the series.
Didnt Ichigo get nerfed after the soul society arc tho? I feel like the reason it felt lackluster in the arrancar arc is just because he wasnt at full power. Also white is also just Ichigos power so I dont see why its portrayed as a negative point for his bankai power in defeating byakuya
I always find it weird when people make it seem like white is a cheat code when it's literally Ichigos original power.
Soifon's is more suited for a desperate last stand scenario where all options are expended and all other Shinigami are deceased or incapacitated with her as the last one standing. She's perfect with her standard assassin's skills in conjunction fellow Squad 2 members backing her. Especially now that Yoruichi is showing her that teamwork/comradeship does the job better than mere pawns.
I feel like Soi Fon's Bankai serves her character/personality more than anything
It doesn't fit her "silent ninja assassin" persona, compared to her shikai. And like her personality, she can be this serious ninja assassin, but she's prone to explosive outbursts of anger
@@hairlessgrizzly559 Yes. Her extreme training and conditioning certainly also contributed to her extreme traits, wouldn't be surprised if her explosive temper is also subconscious anger at her lot in life even with it comes with perks. Only Yoruichi is a normal humane presence in an otherwise bleak and bloody world of assassins despite being one herself.
Now that she is reunited with her teacher and idol I wonder if Soi-Fon will work on her temper.
I still would like to see a more calm and calculating Soi-Fon lining up a powerful shot while Yoruichi ties the enemy down. In my opinion the two of them have great potential for synergies.
I think it more represents her unresolved issues with her true self vs her ideal self. Suzumebachi represents who she wants to be and who she's supposed to be, while Jakoho Raikoben represents the aspects of herself she doesn't exactly take pride in. I feel once she finishes growing up, her Bankai might change form (i.e. true name reveal) or she might not find it so cumbersome.
@@hairlessgrizzly559 We somewhat agree
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Honestly Tensa Zangetsu is such a weird one. He moves so fast that Byakuya literally can't even follow his movements and is able to block EVERY SINGLE PETAL of Senbonzakura to basically never doing anything nearly as cool with it ever again except in non-canon movies. And what's even worse is that Kubo eventually made it so that he basically couldn't fight *at all* unless he was in bankai (like with that first privaron espada)
I was actually going to write even more to talk about how his bankai felt like a shikai and his vaizard mask felt like what we would have expected a bankai to be... but then you said that right after I begin typing it lol
Because Ichigo’s first “Bankai” was technically his Quincy powers, I’ve seen an interesting fan theory that the reason it was so ineffective in Hueco Mundo was due to the poisonous hollow reishi all around him for that whole arc. Ichigo is PROBABLY the most immune Quincy to hollow reishi, but it probably did have SOME effect.
That's indeed an actual great fan theory, someone should bring this up to Kubo in Klub Outside
Ishida seemed fine in HM
@@BushidoBrownSama well he didn't die there. He doesn't really have a great showcase
@@if7723 Kubo already said Ishida's special nature is why he never got Hollow poisoning while there.
@@MrGksarathy Cool? Did the post mention Ishida
Without watching Id say Renjis original bankai, soifons and Ikkakus bankai will be on the list
Ikkaku's Bankai is weak AF and a lesser version of that should have been his Shikai. His Bankai should've been something more akin to Noitra's release to where Ikkaku could have used multiple blades to fight to his hearts content with total disregard to his own life
In a bit of a defence of Soi Fons Bankai, it seems like its a powerful area of effect attack to deal with larger targets/groups. Suzumebachi's Shikai always seemed like the single target poison attack while her Bankai was always a group attack that requires no initial attack to deal with enemies.
This is shikai related but my biggest gripe with Bleach was always that two guys shikais could burn everything into ash and the other complete hypnosis. And then other guys get like a spiky ball that can be broken by a punch.
True but that's just most shonen power systems. Look at Naruto for example one guy is born with eyes that let him copy things, strong and sometimes unbreakable genjutsu, and an energy mech, and another dude is born with a connection to dogs or can grow big.
To be fair becoming big can be useful...
RIP Kina though.
lol Izurus zanpaukto gets heavier 😂😂😂😂😂
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 his makes the weapons of his enemies heavier. If used correctly it can be devastating (assuming that his opponent isn't too much more powerful)
@@garthyahudahandrews8504Kira has one of the best Zanpakutō.
I believe that lack of mention of Ikkaku's bankai in TYBW anime was intentional and maybe he could have restored it somehow to use it again
To be fair ichigo was constantly fighting people stronger than himself, barragan was much stronger than soi fon and had hierro and respira and Pepe has blut which does skew things a bit
Something unique to mention about Ichigos Bankai, at all times so far, is that it never wears on him, the capitans dont use their bankai unless they have too, the Vizard mention using Bankai is too taxing on the body already hence why they dont mix Bankai + Mask, but for Ichigo, its different, the Bankai is never a burden on him, as you mentioned, it seems to be his most natural base form, of course knowing the truth about his powers makes it give more sense, but it still shows how different Ichigo is
LEAVE IKKAKU ALONE 😭
Never😂😂😂
Not on your life.
Why? Kubo already did.
I know I’m the minority on this, but I thought Kenpachi’s Bankai was very underwhelming and predictable.
The combat craving monster becomes even more of a monster………didn’t see that coming at all.
I think it would’ve been cooler to give Kenpachi a more complex Bankai that actually takes some skill and technique to master. It would be a cool change of pace for a character that always wins just by slashing at his enemy until it dies. Idk, the Bankai he got just feels extremely obvious.
*edit: I know the point of his character is to be predictable and obvious. That doesn’t mean I have to love his Bankai for being more of the same.
With what Zanpakutou and their Bankai are it would be honestly weird to have anything different for Zaraki tho. Just like you said - he just hacks and craves battle, so the manifestation of his own soul - entity born of Zaraki himself, that is him at the same time - cannot be situational technique requiring anything special. It might feel basic and predictable, but it is precisely why it works for Zaraki.
Well it is predictable...
Just like Kenpachi himself. He is the battle hungry berserker and he will stay that way.
When in battle he will wail on his opponent and if that doesn't work he will lift his self-imposed restraints one after another.
Lastly he still hasn't fully mastered his bankai, leaving room for growth
Kenpachi is a predictable character, he's not meant to be complex like Shunsui or Urahara. So his Bankai is very fitting.
You should've know this already. Shikai and bankai play a big role in a Shinigami character writing. His bankai represent who he is. Those who their bankai is less predictable are those who are kind of hidding their true self to others. Ex: Unohana, Kyoraku, Urahara ect. Kenpachi is the most honesry guy in the soul society. I never hide anything. We all know he just want to fight nothing more, nothing less. So that bankai perfectly make sense.
@@Taiga-16 I know it makes sense. I just think it’s underwhelming and boring, at least as far as Bankai go.
Way to make Ikkaku Bankai atleast somewhat viable, do a Kubikiribōchō from Naruto. When he cuts/kills and opponent the blood spilled reforms Ryūmon Hōzukimaru.
Ikkaku is one of my favourite characters, felt was done dirty by Kubo.
I still have fond memories of playing ikkaku in Bleach heat the soul.
Love the new background! Great video as always
Komamura's bankai looks so menacing until you realize its the biggest moving target in that world
I have this theory there's something more to Ikakku's zanpakuto, and why even if we accept a broken bankai can never be recovered (which I dislike as well) it might not apply to him. The first note is his shikai is actually fairly unique in that it's a primarily wooden weapon. As such, it gets broken in every single fight he's in. He even activates his bankai with his shikai already broken, which means the state of zanpakuto is irrelevant to his bankai. So then when his bankai also completely shatters, it seems to fit his zanpakuto theme. It's important to note here that Ikakku loves fighting like Zaraki, and will also limit himself for the sake of a better fight. However, unlike Zaraki's unlimited power, Ikakku is often just putting himself at a dangerous disadvantage. And also unlike Zaraki, Ikakku is completely willing to die for the sake of his own challenge. Now there's one other note about all Ikakku's fights: luck. Whether he's winning or survives losing, there's always something lucky about them. So my theory is what if his zanpakuto has some sort of secret luck ability that even he's unaware of. The blade itself is just completely oridinary- even the bankai's red dragon bar doesn't actually do anything- and doesn't matter how much it's broken, because even the smallest piece is still granting Ikakku some improved luck to keep fighting.
Side note. Ikkakus bankai looks AMAZING
The "scarred" state may not apply to Ikkaku's bankai. It's possible that his bankai wasn't fully developed like Rengi's or can repair itself like Komamora's. His bankai is designed to get fully awakened after trading blows with an opponent or by getting spun around. That means it's designed to be like a berserker, throwing caution to the wind so it and its user can drown in the thrill of battle.
I always took Ikaku's bankai being bad a consequence of him not training it/using it often. Mixed in with the fact that he is scared to show it off in a fight. I was hoping he'd get the Renji treatment for his bankai at some point but never happened lol
for what it's worth, Ryumon Hozukimaru did allow Ikkaku to punch above his weight class exactly once at the cost of being able to do so again. Ikkakku being formally ranked as a 3rd Seat at the time was not under the Gentei Kaijyo seal when he was deployed to the World of the Living so he required a bankai in order to defeat a stronger opponent.
Furthermore, Ikkaku fundamentally does NOT value his Bankai because he sees it as a liability that could cost him his ambition to serve under Kenpachi for the rest of his life and that could actually have made Ryumon Hozukimaru far more brittle specifically because of his bad relationship with his own power, which is to say with himself. He probably didn't really care all that much about what happened to it beyond Akon's ability to cobble it back together into something resembling its original shape.
to be fair about the damage transfer of Komamura's bankai: its not as much of a downside anymore when you consider that what's grievous damage to the samurai is also damage that would have cleaved Komamura himself in two due to the size difference between the two. Its easier to hit, but you need really destructive attacks for the transferred damage to be meaningful
Maybe they could make Shinji evolve his bankai to the point where he can also encase anyone he wants in a similar pod to protect them from the effects.
Rukia's bankai is very, very new. Byakuya's explanation on Bankai strength depends on the shinigami's own maturity is very spot on. She needs decades of training to improve, same as Renji.
Was just waiting for a new video today lol
Interesting point of view. That's what is fun about Bleach, there is a lot of debate to have about it. Thanks for sharing!
Mayuri: Once a bankai is broken it can't be fixed
Also Mayuri: I said it couldn't be fixed. I never said it couldn't be modified or upgraded. 😏
Oetsu: 😡
I would love my favourite boy Ikkaku to have a brand new bankai in the upcoming hell arc.
I was thinking of him summoning a huge quantity of blades and lances of all sorts, falling and planting into the ground. He would just go all out and smash them all on his foes, while being able to chain them together. All battle choregraphy
Bruh i love kinse’s bankai it’s a dope ability
Konjiki Ashisogi Jizo's chest blades did get used exactly once to good effect, namely in the anime-only Bount Arc when Mayuri fought Sawatari and Baura where the blades were used to deliver the final blow. That's about it.
Hihio Zabimaru's design is soooo good. I really wish the real bankai kept the concept and just improved on the design.
Or Kubo just could have had Renji train it and improve his skill with it. It’s gets faster and stronger and eventually he works past his clunky unrefined skill with it. A giant lightning fast bone snake whip that shoots lasers and separates he can ride it too?! Now it’s just so basic.
@@alainblandi2885 I personally don't think so. The color was just too much brown, and the blade was long and bulky, which I don't exactly like.
The issue with Ikkaku's bankai is not that it's brittle, but it was summoned FROM a broken zampakuto, which heavily hindered it's performance.
So, in theory, we have never really seen Ryuumon Hozukimaru's full potential.
The biggest flaw of Shinji's Bankai is that he had to tell the enemy every single detail about it.
Ikkaku looks like he's having fun at least
Probably Ikkaku's banking feature could be the possibility to repair itself using iron in his enemy's and Ikkaku's own blood to repair and maybe re-shape itself (hello, Executioner's blade from Naruto). As Ikkaku is such a straightforward fighter, and he is also covered in his blood in every single fight he had - this could represent his toughness and love for long battles
Ikkaku's Bankai design is one of my favorite, but oh the drawback! It's like the ability Slow Start from Pokemon. Soi Fun deserves justice for how her Bankai has been used.
I'd genuinely be interested in seeing your take on a list of "strongest/most 'flawed'" female characters in bleach, maybe even female characters bankai tier list or something (I'm sure there's a way to include kisuke's bankai in all of that, but between shinigami like rukia and unohana, arrancar like nel and hallibel, quincy like ichigo's mom and that admittedly kinda underwhelming squad of girls in tybw, and honestly even zero squad's hikifune and senjumaru.... There's just alot of ground to cover with interesting and/or powerful female characters in bleach.)
Bfw anyone else remember when orihime had powers and potential that was intriguing enough for aizen to literally single her out from all the other side characters, and randomly kidnap her...? No? Just me? No one else out here is all that curious on wtf that was all about with her ability to undo causality, apperantly? Oh, okay. Lol why can't kubo commit to coolifying any given female character and/or Chad.
I’m here for the Ikkaku hate. Garbage Bankai