I really enjoyed working on this! It was really fun to analyze in depth and help you out with this video! Hope everyone can take something from this into their own gameplay!
Absolutely brilliant explanation, I can immediately change 2-3 things /mechanics that will instantly make me a better player. So simple but so effective 🙏 ty for this
One thing I just learned today is that Zen actually used his trigger button in order to air roll. This in turn allows him to control the speed of his air rolls. One of the bigger reasons for his high skill. Along with him being a gifted player who put his time into the right things.
What I think really stands out with Zen is how mature he is on and off the pitch. I mean you see this guy who is still basically a kid but he behaves better than most adults. He isn´t toxic afaik and can even just wipe off big mistakes (own goal in rlcs worlds). Watching him play is like watching Ronaldinho in his prime, doing his thing and smiling while doing so. I really hope Zen will be there for years to come and make Rocket League even more exciting to watch than it already is.
You have to be a somewhat high level of maturity to be a pro, I think y’all overhype him a little too much because he’s really is just a pro with some unique differences, and to be honest that’s every pro. I think he also is in the best possible spot with the best team to be having so much success, I don’t see a crazy difference with him compared to other pros.
@superflyslay9740 Well he tweeted out about having no sleep and being frustrated at the result, and then deleted that tweet an hour later congratulating Rw9 and apologizing. Since that moment I haven’t seen anything negative from him
It's inborn talent. He looked at the game for the first time and was instantly the GOAT - anyone who's good enough to become a pro at anything is that kind of instant genius
“He knows he doesn’t always need to shoot…and that he can instead take the ball wide to try set up a better shot” this is what nearly everyone in Diamond and below does every time, not out of skill, but because we don’t know HOW to shoot.
A very interesting take on the "what makes a player this good" series, adding the coaches perspectives ! However, I'm not sure about the 1s input, I might be mistaken but I think Zen was pretty new to 1s when he started his showmatch streak on JohnnyBoii's channel, but I guess you can say the same thing about the importance of defense in 2s at this level, which often goes back to 1vs1 situations
@@leylaali1982 He still probably has 1000s of 1s games under his belt haha I mean literally just think abt how much total time he has in the game to be able to even reach his level. Kind of weird to say "new to 1s" when the average player wouldn't even come close to him when it comes to amount of games played. Hell I'm c3 in 1s which would be considered top 1% for that gamemode and it's like the only thing I play so I would call myself a 1s main, but Zen probably has 100s if not 1000s of games on me just in ssl alone
Everything said in the video is exactly what you do in football(soccer), run when you have to, dribble for a reason and not just by the sake of it, know where your teammates and opponents are and have great vision to make the best play possible to score a goal. Basically, he is Messi haha, feel free to disagree.
This is D1 meatriding. He’s just really good dude. Most pro players do the same stuff. He’s just more impressive, mechanical, and consistent than them. Some of these clips are just a ridiculous stretch. Like the 2v1 save. Pretty sure 100% of pros have made that save before.
If I’m being honest the thing you explained are very vague compared to what other pros do, he does everything else the same compared to others, it’s just the fact that the media overhyped him way too much, ofc the success plays apart but he is very lucky to be in the best situation possible with a team that matches him. I don’t think he will be the next generational talent based off what you have stated and what the coaches analyzed, I could be wrong as well but I think you guys could lay off the glazing for now. If anything the media will f up his career because it might get to his head even though he might just be another normal rlcs pro.
thing is. it's not rly about what he does but how well he does it. other pros can also hit crazy mechs n shit, but few are as consistent as him, and none match those mechs while having as good gamesense. i love how you say he's lucky and he might just be a normal rlcs pro as well. no amount of luck can make a guy join the rlcs scene and not loose an event for month, especially when the team hadn't won one the whole season. are radosin and alpha good players ? absolutely, they're as deserving as zen. however, i don't think you quite get how good zen is.
@@swagie_ik he’s good but it’s hard to explain how teams can change off of one change, idk how I can explain it but they are lucky to have all of the right men on the team, and I understand how he may be consistent but I don’t think they’re is a major skill gap beetween him and other pros, it’s just that everyone keeps overhyping him. I think this has been done before, for example: Daniel, jstn, etc. I just think we for some reason overhype rookies for no reason and act as if they’re the next big thing.
@@swagie_ik he’s good but it’s hard to explain how teams can change off of one change, idk how I can explain it but they are lucky to have all of the right men on the team, and I understand how he may be consistent but I don’t think they’re is a major skill gap beetween him and other pros, it’s just that everyone keeps overhyping him. I think this has been done before, for example: Daniel, jstn, etc. I just think we for some reason overhype rookies for no reason and act as if they’re the next big thing.
My fault guys, I was just surprised that as soon as I clicked on my subscriptions page his video was released with no views. Ive never seen that before 😂
Zen is a 2s player not a 1s player. He only picked up the gamemode recently. While it feels true to say that you get these skills from 1s it doesnt ring true to me that thats where zen acquired his skills tho
So many comments saying this but it's a pedantic argument, he can and has solo qued 2s in ssl and wins. 2s can be described as 2 games of 1s. The skills needed to get to his position are easily applied to 1s. I do realise my counter to the argument is further pedantic hearsay but I stand by my stupid words.
@@Benpurple4 i dont really disagree with you. I just dont like how its presented that Zen has all this "wealth" of 1s experience when that really isnt the case. It wasnt how he grinded the game to become the player he is. thats all im saying :P
Only thing to do in gold is practice ground play in freeplay and training packs and keep your team mates in front of you. If you can't solo play the entire opponent team then hit ball once, hard, and rotate out. Watch the opponents going for the ball from half of field away, where will they hit the ball? Can you get to where the ball will land without difficulty? Is a tm8 there already? If so, get behind them. Gold to plat is entirely ground play and defense. Don't try to score unless you have the perfect chance, also FLIP LESS. Single jump or no jump at all if ball is rolling. If you don't flip, you are able to react to the play faster and get back faster. Play the game slowly and simply, you can practice cool stuff in the air in training packs but if you want to rank up don't try most of it until mid diamond or even champ. Watch flakes road to ssl 2s. It's great for your mindset.
Its all good what you said but at the same time zen’s starting show signs of becoming washed he’ll go from carrying vit to be the anchor dragging the team in mud like how scrub ended up being
Bro what, he can only get better from here lol. He’s only 16. Anyone who plays comp knows you cant be consistent 100%, mechanically and mentally. Bad games are bound to happen tbh
"zen’s starting show signs of becoming washed" What? What signs? Winning? Being the best in the world (in RLCS)? If you think Zen is showing signs, then everyone else must be washed already.
@@enksxo_ mechanically maybe but his reaction time is only going to slow the older he gets, also he's pretty far from washed lol. Bro literally finished his debut split.
@@Thanovic look, I love your content & your energy, I've been following you for a long time now, you helped me a lot with my progression and I consider you one of the top tier RL content creators. That being said, I think there are a lot of people like me that follow you, haven't seen it yet and would like to watch it spoiler-free so imo it's just better to avoid that kind of information if it's not essential, or at least give a heads-up / spoiler alert. Please consider it as a suggestion to improve and to avoid karen-like comments and votes such as mine. Btw changed to upvote because you totally deserve it for all the work you did and I admit it was a d*ck move from me haha, peace!
This was a blast to record, had heaps of fun with this.
Hope I provide some good insight for others looking to follow in his footsteps!🎉
Loved the analysis my guy🎉
Here b4 this blows up
Can't wait to be able to join your program - definitely few of my favorite coaches from a different program
Love the analysis from you and Seal, it was very insightful.
- Cato :)
@@Cato-gt6hw
Trying to rank out of c2 rn and after watching I hit my peak of c3 just show the elite content Thanovic produces
Yo wanna team up?
glazer 3
Pull his pants up when you done
I’m stuck c2 im watching rn…
@@Dtitus25im sorry but WHAT THE FU
I really enjoyed working on this! It was really fun to analyze in depth and help you out with this video! Hope everyone can take something from this into their own gameplay!
Ben jij nederlands?
thanks for your analysis
Are you dutch
@@huubscholten5741 Why would you ask? Its that obvious lol. Als hij niet nederlands is freet ik m'n schoenen op!
Loved the analysis from you, Seal. Hopefully I get to watch you in more videos :)
- Cato
The analysis was really helpful! Brilliant cast of people ❤
Absolutely brilliant explanation, I can immediately change 2-3 things /mechanics that will instantly make me a better player. So simple but so effective 🙏 ty for this
One thing I just learned today is that Zen actually used his trigger button in order to air roll. This in turn allows him to control the speed of his air rolls. One of the bigger reasons for his high skill. Along with him being a gifted player who put his time into the right things.
This video helped me out a lot. I was stuck in silver 3 and now I’m grand ass 4
Respect to SirSeal! Such a great coach, and person
I’m so glad that it’s not just recorded streamed matches with a fancy title like others r doing. I was waiting for this, ty thanovic..
4:54 zen plays more 2's than 1's
What I think really stands out with Zen is how mature he is on and off the pitch. I mean you see this guy who is still basically a kid but he behaves better than most adults. He isn´t toxic afaik and can even just wipe off big mistakes (own goal in rlcs worlds). Watching him play is like watching Ronaldinho in his prime, doing his thing and smiling while doing so. I really hope Zen will be there for years to come and make Rocket League even more exciting to watch than it already is.
lol did you not see his reaction to losing to RW9...not so mature
@@superflyslay9740exactly like wtf is this guy saying 💀
@@somerandomchad469he IS still a kid so you still can’t really blame him..
You have to be a somewhat high level of maturity to be a pro, I think y’all overhype him a little too much because he’s really is just a pro with some unique differences, and to be honest that’s every pro. I think he also is in the best possible spot with the best team to be having so much success, I don’t see a crazy difference with him compared to other pros.
@superflyslay9740
Well he tweeted out about having no sleep and being frustrated at the result, and then deleted that tweet an hour later congratulating Rw9 and apologizing.
Since that moment I haven’t seen anything negative from him
Ferras influence on this young mechanical god has made him a force to be reckoned with in RLCS. Teamplayer.
5:28 he chose the right name for himself
It's inborn talent. He looked at the game for the first time and was instantly the GOAT - anyone who's good enough to become a pro at anything is that kind of instant genius
“He knows he doesn’t always need to shoot…and that he can instead take the ball wide to try set up a better shot” this is what nearly everyone in Diamond and below does every time, not out of skill, but because we don’t know HOW to shoot.
Every tourney except gamers8. He's human but still the 🐐
A very interesting take on the "what makes a player this good" series, adding the coaches perspectives ! However, I'm not sure about the 1s input, I might be mistaken but I think Zen was pretty new to 1s when he started his showmatch streak on JohnnyBoii's channel, but I guess you can say the same thing about the importance of defense in 2s at this level, which often goes back to 1vs1 situations
Yeah i thought the same thing bc i remember hearing about this when zen was on his streak of 11 undefeated on johnnybois series
"new to 1s", maybe relative to other top 20 players, but he still would have to have thousands of matches against SSL+ to get to his skill level.
@@MercLeagueeh he is a top tier ssl with crazy mechs. He doesn’t need 100’s of games to be good at 1s if he excels in all other game modes
@@leylaali1982 He still probably has 1000s of 1s games under his belt haha I mean literally just think abt how much total time he has in the game to be able to even reach his level. Kind of weird to say "new to 1s" when the average player wouldn't even come close to him when it comes to amount of games played. Hell I'm c3 in 1s which would be considered top 1% for that gamemode and it's like the only thing I play so I would call myself a 1s main, but Zen probably has 100s if not 1000s of games on me just in ssl alone
Thank you for this content and what are your tips to get better in rocket league and your my favourite rocket lesgue plauer in rocket league
Babe wake up, new Thano video
Team play is so important. So hard to find that in late diamond, early champ.
The editing in these videos is elite
Is this the same Jonk who plays for Swinburne if so we had a hectic series on playoffs last semester ael 4-3, he seems like a great coach/analyst .
By this video i ended up ranking up to diamond, thanks you Thanovic❤
This really helps! Loving the vids
This guy needs his own title in the game
Great video
Can u also do this with Vatira
Meanwhile, me in silver watching this video : "Yeahhhh I understand"
Everything said in the video is exactly what you do in football(soccer), run when you have to, dribble for a reason and not just by the sake of it, know where your teammates and opponents are and have great vision to make the best play possible to score a goal. Basically, he is Messi haha, feel free to disagree.
I thought the same!
Ronaldo *
@@danielrosales6879 LOL, no.
@@danielrosales6879 no
I want to beat Zen.... I probably will never be able to, but I'm going to try. Getting out of Gold II Div II is my first step LMAO
Anyone got an ID on the opponent decal at 8:04 by chance? The yellow and pink fennec
What decal was zens opponent using at 3:39
It’s his teammate Radosin’s car: Titanium white Filiformer is the decal
Zen played with Vatira? i wanna see that match . has someone a link?
arc de soleil, good taste
We need a car design vid
is seal dutch
Very😂
Yes
Me as a coach: hes just like that
“He does what’s best for the team” goes for a triple flip reset 10 minutes into overtime in the more important competition in rocket league.
Because he can 🤣
I have never seen a man more glazed on then this dude
Zen at GAMERS8 tho
This is D1 meatriding. He’s just really good dude. Most pro players do the same stuff. He’s just more impressive, mechanical, and consistent than them. Some of these clips are just a ridiculous stretch. Like the 2v1 save. Pretty sure 100% of pros have made that save before.
the zen glazing is crazy
Ikr he’s way too overrated
Gekoloniseerd
Is seal from the netherlands cuz i am and hear his accent
Same lmao
He is indeed from the netherlands
SIRSEAL IS A GOAT ❤
Imagine Zen and vitality never win another tournament
Glazing is crazy
Ik fr he’s not that generational 😭😭
I wish i could put more time but i dont have a console or pc so i use geforce now and i can barely put time into rocket League.
Seal definitely Dutch 😂❤
can you do rw9
Zen be getting dropped off to his games by his mama 😂
Is Seal a Dutchman? Because he has a Dutch accent (Netherlands)
Not that any of you will know who this is, but Zen is like the Antoine dupont of RL
i say more of a freddy adu, but i feel the sentiment.
Dan Carter
this is glazing
I smell dutch
your sense of smell is correct
cool but who is donkey kong prime is back
radosin I’m pretty sure
omg covid is not over yet i literally have it ur so right bro@@COVID_Is_Not_Over_Yet
rado
If I’m being honest the thing you explained are very vague compared to what other pros do, he does everything else the same compared to others, it’s just the fact that the media overhyped him way too much, ofc the success plays apart but he is very lucky to be in the best situation possible with a team that matches him. I don’t think he will be the next generational talent based off what you have stated and what the coaches analyzed, I could be wrong as well but I think you guys could lay off the glazing for now. If anything the media will f up his career because it might get to his head even though he might just be another normal rlcs pro.
thing is. it's not rly about what he does but how well he does it. other pros can also hit crazy mechs n shit, but few are as consistent as him, and none match those mechs while having as good gamesense. i love how you say he's lucky and he might just be a normal rlcs pro as well. no amount of luck can make a guy join the rlcs scene and not loose an event for month, especially when the team hadn't won one the whole season. are radosin and alpha good players ? absolutely, they're as deserving as zen. however, i don't think you quite get how good zen is.
@@swagie_ik he’s good but it’s hard to explain how teams can change off of one change, idk how I can explain it but they are lucky to have all of the right men on the team, and I understand how he may be consistent but I don’t think they’re is a major skill gap beetween him and other pros, it’s just that everyone keeps overhyping him. I think this has been done before, for example: Daniel, jstn, etc. I just think we for some reason overhype rookies for no reason and act as if they’re the next big thing.
@@swagie_ik he’s good but it’s hard to explain how teams can change off of one change, idk how I can explain it but they are lucky to have all of the right men on the team, and I understand how he may be consistent but I don’t think they’re is a major skill gap beetween him and other pros, it’s just that everyone keeps overhyping him. I think this has been done before, for example: Daniel, jstn, etc. I just think we for some reason overhype rookies for no reason and act as if they’re the next big thing.
Coach seal is sws nederlands
Love you ❤😊🤩🔥
Where is he finding these coaches? Can they coach me?
Yeah did you watch till the end for that part?
Zens just more skilled 😂
When you are the first to like and comment when thanovic posts 12 seconds ago 😮
Well done want a gold medal?
@@husaamasam5827fr 😂
You are supposed to watch the video first, then like and comment about it...
My fault guys, I was just surprised that as soon as I clicked on my subscriptions page his video was released with no views. Ive never seen that before 😂
@@husaamasam5827 your funny 🥱
i love jonk
90% seal is from NL🇳🇱
Zen is a 2s player not a 1s player. He only picked up the gamemode recently. While it feels true to say that you get these skills from 1s it doesnt ring true to me that thats where zen acquired his skills tho
So many comments saying this but it's a pedantic argument, he can and has solo qued 2s in ssl and wins. 2s can be described as 2 games of 1s. The skills needed to get to his position are easily applied to 1s. I do realise my counter to the argument is further pedantic hearsay but I stand by my stupid words.
@@Benpurple4 i dont really disagree with you. I just dont like how its presented that Zen has all this "wealth" of 1s experience when that really isnt the case. It wasnt how he grinded the game to become the player he is. thats all im saying :P
I'm struggling in gold but this may help
Only thing to do in gold is practice ground play in freeplay and training packs and keep your team mates in front of you. If you can't solo play the entire opponent team then hit ball once, hard, and rotate out. Watch the opponents going for the ball from half of field away, where will they hit the ball? Can you get to where the ball will land without difficulty? Is a tm8 there already? If so, get behind them. Gold to plat is entirely ground play and defense. Don't try to score unless you have the perfect chance, also FLIP LESS. Single jump or no jump at all if ball is rolling. If you don't flip, you are able to react to the play faster and get back faster. Play the game slowly and simply, you can practice cool stuff in the air in training packs but if you want to rank up don't try most of it until mid diamond or even champ. Watch flakes road to ssl 2s. It's great for your mindset.
Been saying it for months already, Zen is not the goat just because of mechanics, he is strategically one of the best pros.
cleary the best
Hi thanovic!
Its all good what you said but at the same time zen’s starting show signs of becoming washed he’ll go from carrying vit to be the anchor dragging the team in mud like how scrub ended up being
Bro what, he can only get better from here lol. He’s only 16. Anyone who plays comp knows you cant be consistent 100%, mechanically and mentally. Bad games are bound to happen tbh
"zen’s starting show signs of becoming washed" What? What signs? Winning? Being the best in the world (in RLCS)?
If you think Zen is showing signs, then everyone else must be washed already.
Lmao I love how ppl get so triggered when you question him, like bro y’all glaze him so hard holy f
@@enksxo_ mechanically maybe but his reaction time is only going to slow the older he gets, also he's pretty far from washed lol. Bro literally finished his debut split.
Yeah being washed by winning every RLCS tournaments since his arrival 🤡
if a normal person do this like they wont care they riding zen...
4:55 ... bullshit he just started playing 1s 6 month ago or something like that
hmmmmmmmm. you have the perfect analysis and use logic and reasoning BUT he still hackin
can som budy tread my scrap for a gole expogen
He is just zen.
tbh in a video about what makes the best player the best i was hoping for a bit more depth :/
Me
I liked my own comment.
Seal is the best, with his hankypanky english viva la nederland🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
Hahaha, had t ook al door. Respect tho
@@JSvS870 ik doe t m niet na, zn halve analyse kan k zelf niet eens zien😂😂
I know people,e see zen for his mechanics but he's not really like that
I like cheese
Yo wassssuppp
He's french duh.
im french ahah duh
Hi
Lol I commented bef9re watxhing the video
hi
only pc
Yooo
this is all wrong he is too good cause he trained that it but jokes aside this is greeat
😘
Who came from Discord ?
new than vid :DDDD
Whole lot of glazing. He’s good because he’s put the time in to master mechanics and concepts of soccer.
Bro is obviously juicing
Not tryna hate or anything but that was a horrible analysis anybody could look at those plays and conclude the exact same thing
Ayy
I downvoted because of the spoiler at the end
It’s been over for a week now?
@@Thanovic look, I love your content & your energy, I've been following you for a long time now, you helped me a lot with my progression and I consider you one of the top tier RL content creators. That being said, I think there are a lot of people like me that follow you, haven't seen it yet and would like to watch it spoiler-free so imo it's just better to avoid that kind of information if it's not essential, or at least give a heads-up / spoiler alert. Please consider it as a suggestion to improve and to avoid karen-like comments and votes such as mine. Btw changed to upvote because you totally deserve it for all the work you did and I admit it was a d*ck move from me haha, peace!
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