The Only Mechanics You REALLY Need To Learn
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- What Is The Most Important Mechanic In Rocket League? Today we go over 30 mechanics in rocket league and narrow it down to which mechanics you ACTUALLY need to practice, and which ones you can leave behind until later on.
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Crazy that you didn't mention passes, fake plays, 50/50, fake challenges, or even demos and bumps. All of them are top 10 mechanics in my opinion.
Agreed well everything but fake plays. Those are optional
@@JustDrewskifakes are top 10 imo, just because a good fake can keep the other team guessing for the rest of the game
bro their not mechs
That’s game sense it’s not mechs
50s is the only one I see as a mech. Demos is game sense. And basic car control. Fakes are an addition on whatever you faking.
If we're counting rotations I would redefine that as positioning in general and make it number 1. You literally cannot do anything useful unless you are in a position to do so. Other than that my list wouldn't have any major differences, so great video!
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Great list, however I would rearrange the top 5 a bit. I would put rotation at number 1, shooting at 2, aerials at 3, recoveries at 4 and air roll at 5. Maybe swapping 3 and 4, depending how new of a player you are. If you're new, recoveries would be more important than aerials.
Tbh shadow defence is the only 1 I disagree with bc every game you will be in the position yo shadow defend multiple especially in low ranks where positioning is worse and ur tm8s need more time to recover
The AppJack flip cancel shot might be my favourite RLCS goal. That shot was so clean
Bro ain’t no way lol
if you think thats good watch some noflip goals
Great video ! I respect most of your takes. HOWEVER, how is flip canceling lower than chain dashing ? Flip canceling has been the key to better recoveries and better car control in general for me, as it allows you to make your car move and recover from flips in any situation !
Also, I don't know if it's a mechanic, but I would have added 50s, and put it pretty high on the list !
Thanks !
Completely agree
If I added 50s I would have definitely put them high on the list, I just forgot about them unfortunately, that’s on me! And you might be right on the flip cancelling, I just use the little chain dashes a bit more than I find flip cancelling useful
@@Thanovic I understand, I think we all get more into certain mechanics than others. I tend to flip cancel too much, pretty much on every flip now since I saw the MENA guys pretty much speed flipping on every hit for better recoveries, and that is not a good habit at my level haha
Also, I'd love a chain dash tutorial from you. I know there are hundreds out there, but I can't seem to find any that are well explained to me ! At this point I only trust you, you're a great pedagog
Hard to watch ❌ Hard while watching ✅
Bro what
Yoo
Yt comments are so behind lmao
I can get behind this❗️🔛🔝
Same bro...
Thanks for including my clips at 0:40 and 7:27 !!!
For me, I use a flip cancel whenever I do a half flip instead of using the diagonal half flip. It was easier for me to learn and get consistent, I feel like flip canceling should be a few spots higher up on the list. Also, if low 50/50s were on the list, they would definitely be 15-5, yes they are a 50/50 which is a really important part of the game aka 1-5, but low 50s are an extra step that is basically the brother of a basic dribble that is going towards the goaline. If you make a follow up to this video, definitely include them as they can be the reason you win in a game. Also this might just be nickpicking basic 50/50s however I thought I'd mention it anyways.
Diagonal half flip still requires a flip cancel, but idk anyone who uses that half flip, as cancelling a back flip and then air rolling is just more consistant.
Arnos, u went crazy with this one. Props my guy
love the video thanovic! thanks for including a couple of my clips ;)
Air dribble has to be higher up simply for the fact that it allows you to more effectively use any other aerial mechanic
Never fails to improve my game no matter what. Keep it up Ethan!
His name is Ethan?!
honestly its probably for the best that you didn't include zap dashes as a mech in the vid or any other variation of other mechanics other than wall dashes. Zap dashes are really just a modified wave dash which can be useful but timing has to very precise and can be difficult for some players to learn. Also I do genuinely believe flip resets should be higher on the list only because of the diversity that can be used with it, such as taking it up for an air dribble and getting a flip to beat the last defender or using it when going for a 50/50 in the air to get a better recovery, but other than these smaller things I do appreciate that you put shooting in the first spot as its a mechanic that I've seen players not being very good at and even some pros saying that they regret not working on their shooting more. Anyways I love the content as usual keep up the good work!!
Yeah, you’re right about zap dashes there. In terms of just ranking up, you don’t need to learn it at all. But I just want to add that some pros have found it to be really useful. AppJack has said a couple of times that he thinks it’s really useful to get a burst of speed after recovering and he has used it quite a lot in RLCS. I’ve also seen Retals incorporate it into his gameplay even at the recent spring major.
@@Matteroll oh ofc, but pros incorporate mechanics into their game a lot more than the everyday ranked grinder. I think zap dashes are good as something extra to learn if you really wanted to learn them like it wouldn't hurt to learn them but isn't needed to rank up.
I love this, what’s crazy is I feel like you can tell Than is a 2s/3s main just from the tier list and I think that’s wild
You actually can aye 😂 I haven’t played 1s in 3 or 4 seasons now
@@Thanovic yeah I play a lot of ones and there was a few near the top (bounce dribbles mainly) where I was like, “yeah I think they should go higher because I play a lot of 1s”😂 but definitely a good list
This is right along the lines of aircharged program he has on yt. Drastically underrated creator just like thanovic. I learned a huge thing im doing wrong just from this vid 😂❤
just here to say this is a great video keep up the good work than
Learning to redirect efficiently is easily a top 10 mechanic
in higher ranks, yes. when players have better game sense, know how to pass forward and rotate, it makes sense. In lower ranks it usually means you overcomitted and are too far up field and should not expect a pass.
10:46 when I was in gold nobody knew how to aerial, and as a plat people do hit aerials but they barely go and when they do hit it it’s basically a pass to the other team lol
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Great video dude, good job showcasing the vast majority of essential mechanics. It doesn’t matter if people disagree on the order or if something is missing, the points you make still stand true.
Great video very poggers info
Only thing I disagree is learning backboard saves "the earlier the better". That will only lead low ranked players to go backboard instead of backpost all the time and mess up from there anyways. You dont even have to defend doubletaps and air dribbles below champ because they mess up so often in these ranks that you get more than enough open nets from it that you can compensate the few goals they actually score this way easily. And some of the basic mechs are missing like some comments say, but great list anyways and well explained!
I would say bounce dribbles are only really super useful in the low ranks like bronze to diamond because the players dont know how to deal with them but they can be easily by higher ranks because you just leave to much space between you and the ball where the enemy can clear it away and they are becoming really predictable.
Watch peak oKhalid 1v1 games. Definitely useful in high ranks. Maybe not as much in 2s or 3s but for sure in 1v1
I recommend Thanovic!
double jump is very underrated in lower ranks tbh
I agree on all of them this rlly helped
Dont hate just cuz ur training something he didnt say
I knew that #1 would be shooting. Strongly agree.
Yes!! Thanks you
the doomsee dish is prolly in my top 5s
immediately thought of spookluke when you said redirects lmao
I would have probably added Saves in there!
In my opinion i feel like being able to catch the ball should be next to dribbling but a little more important
I knew as soon as I saw flip cancelling so low you would put speed flipping and half flipping higher on the list. Those require flip cancelling.
As a new/bad player, anytime I see an opponent air dribble I know immediately we are going to lose. It seems like the most obvious "there is a skill gap" mechanic. I've been in gold games where a smurf air dribbled like 6 goals in a row and the final score was like 12-1. Perhaps at higher elos it cancels out due to everyone having better air control, but there is something to be said about its effectiveness in low elo. It makes it hard to even get a touch in lol. I would say its slightly underrated but I am full biased as someone with bad air control 😅
yeah its just control and understanding of the game. if someone is able to air dribble theyll likely have much better control of the car
Ground passing can catch the defender off guard and is deadly when you perfect it
Every single mechanics video ever. Fundamentals
A bad habit I created is constant air roll I’m now getting out of it slowly and now I’m getting close to hitting champ
ceiling shots should be higher up the list and pinch should be lower if compared to air dribble (completely my opinion)
Editor needs a raise 🔥
The montag got me lol
I would say your biggest threat in plat and diamond while dribbling isn’t the opponent but your own teammate thinking you might be passing to them or just not knowing what your doing
I would say boost management/ boost rotations are top 10
I think some of your takes were fair and i could understand. But i definitely question flip canceling being so low along with breezi/musty having their own things when really they just a type of flick that can be useful for certain situations. Plus freestyle mechs being 31 is kinda sad to me because (i could be biased as a CCH) freestyle/harder to learn mechs are probably the most underrated thing for comp. No one expects anybody to randomly pull out a full field double musty (specifically with that shot, you have so many options). You can fake the first musty if they read you going for it again, you can get a high musty to get it over someone, you can get the 2nd musty to go backboard or over someone else and leave for teammates, ect. freestyle mechs just get trashed on for being hard and "pointless" when you "can" do something else but that something else can be easier to read. So if you practice freestyle mechs for comp, you just have a unmatched ability to be creative with your shots and be unpredictable. At a minimum you at least get a better understanding of your car.
I don't exactly agree with everything on the list, of course shooting and dribbling and air roll, are the three most important mechs, BUT I would place half flips, airdribbles, ceiling shots, and double taps higher up on the list, double taps are very useful in 1v1, same as half flips.
I’m mid gc1 and I can’t flip reset, ceiling shot, and can air dribble maybe 20% of the time 😅
I personally think the off post turtle air dribble musty quad backboard reset into 360 maktuf reset is very competitively viable and hard to read but I respect the opinion 🙄
This is good
How can you forget about saves, fakes demos, bumps, passes dribling. But great list.👍🏻
Bounce dribbling is often better than dribbling on the car as it more often beats multiple defenders
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If you mean getting used to new settings, it’s just about repetition. The more you do, the more you get used to
the issue with flip resets is that its really pretty much peak... its usefull but its hard... and this video is for plebs not for people with 4k hours in the game.... to do a flip reset u have to have very very good car control... u have to go to ball with "Ego" or u will just bounce off of it.
Eh, I taught a few of my friends with around 2k hrs, and they now use it frequently. Not a peak mechanic at all. Peak mechanics are things like Jakze resets and beautiful mustys 😂
I ran into alphakep in 1v1, he won 5-2, but I scored a nice air dribble bump on him
I would say air dribble should be way higher since it improves your close ball control and first touches should be added as a mechanic
Breezie above sidewal redirects idk about that one
Can you make a video on why you shouldn’t need a coaching program to rank up?
btw that clip at the start from "jakze" isn't jakze idk who that is but it wasn't him lol
was wondering why it was so bad relative to how good jakze is... as he would never clip something like that lmao
Bro the penta heli reset tripple musty double touch is a lot more importamt cause,cause...its very impressive...and yeah your opponent gonna instant forfeit...
I disagree with the placement of airdribbles. Im gc2 but i almost score an airdribble each game because people still find them hard to defend.
After watching zen, I’d say chaining wavedashes could move up this list ALOT in a few years. Idk though, I’m a season 14 GC who has awful mechanics 😂😂
Ball control on air like air dribbling can be insanly useful, if you master air dribbles you can score from almost anywhere
I love a nice pinch
Are preflips a freestyle mechanic? Because they can be useful in many situations
preflips should be on this list
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Good list :)
But Only one team-based mechanic in a 3 v 3 game? That seems not right.
50/50s is probably the only mechanic I pride myself on. 50/50s happen countless times in every game you’ll ever play and they 100% win games.
I disagree with the placement of pinches. I think AppJack is a good example of someone trying to use ceiling pinches as a consistent and unexpected way to clear/shoot the ball, but I do think it has a high skill floor
Boost Management on 1 fo sho
i feel like 50/50s should be counted on this list. 50s are in my opinion one of the most underrated mechanics and if you're good at them its a really easy way to outplay opponents even with no boost.
As a diamond, I’m the absolute best player ever at missing open nets. Can’t believe that mechanic/skill wasn’t included.
I know you included aerials, but Fast Aerials should have been on the list.
I'm surprised driving wasn't number 1 on this list!
If you can add 50-50s as a mechanic where would it go?
Air dribbles need to be higher than flip resets because flip resets are dependent on knowing air dribbles
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Thumbmail reminded me of the SpookLuke disaster tip 💀💀
The most important mechanic is learning with the intent to teach
My no1 would be defence because if u can save everything your opponents can't score and will eventually over commit giving u a free goal
'Invincibilty lies in defence. Possibilty of victory in attack.'
The top 10 are the best to rank up
I think you should factor in the amount of time needed to learn the mechs because a lot of people that watch your channel aren’t even champ, and if they see that flip resets might be a good option for offense they are most likely going to attempt learning them.
Someone pulled out a stat recently that something like 70% of my viewers ares champ. I’ve also asked a few times and majority are champ. But yeah that’s a good point
Also I’m plat and I can do a decent bounce dribble. For low ranked player in at least high plat, bounce dribbles are top 10
@@Thanovic oh well my bad. I knew it would be a good amount but not by that much.
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I wouldn't consider rotation a mechanic. And bounce dribbling should be way higher on the list, bounce dribbles are better than dribbling/flicks if done correctly in my opinion
These kind of lists are always subjective but flicks being above powerslide is something I just cant buy at all.
Playing a game without flicking the ball once would be okay. But try playing without powersliding 🤷
Flicks and carrying the ball on top of your car is way too overrated. Bounce dribbling and powerslide cutting is much more effective and also safer.
We need a car design vid
Thanovic are Demo's good for threes?
When putting pogos so low, you really have to define what you mean. While the freestyle pogo is utter garbage, wall pogos and crossbar dashes are extremely useful if you can get them consistent.
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i was gc3 last season but this season i am stuck in c3 in 2s. any tips?
Disagree with some, air dribble and flip canceling while not being op mechanics are the core to other mechanics, i dont think you can speed flip or flip reset without being able to flip cancel or air dribble...so i would argue those are more important mechanics to learn.
I think the most important mechanic is good teammates that's just me tho
Any good training packs for that? I'm on GameBoy Color so I can't use workshop maps.
@@nosekills think they got like Skype on there heard that one's good
yeah i've been grinding my mates lately but they only get more distracted... Idk how to practice that mech
anyone know how to train that? ive been tryna get better at them but i dont know where to start
So for 17 air dribble bumps if you can get good at them they get you a guaranteed goal but you put it 17th😂
how are wave dashes and half flips not 1 and 2
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i put my clip here i hope it shows!
NOOO my plat double reset didnt show
You gotta put rotations at 32 my boy
I'd say speed flip is a bit higher
I think you should make another version of this in order of what you should learn first. Some of the more important mechanics you listed like flip resets are really only achievable once you have the “less” important mechanic of air dribbling, so to say air dribbling is less important is a bit weird to hear. It makes it seem like you should work on flip resets before learning to air dribble which I guess would be possible but pretty unorthodox
One fundamental thing I think you missed is 50/50s. I'd put 50s top 3 easily
Bruh
Flip resets above air dribbles? Make that make sense, one is literally a precursor to the other. Should have logically been far higher, lol
I love the concept of the video, but I think at this point we should call them “skills” instead of mechanics 😅