Old vs New: Dimension C (DC-2 vs DC-2W)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- With the DC-2W updating the Dimension C, how does it match up to the sound of the original? Here's a quick A/B comparison of the two.
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Pretty cool pedal...
Just needs more gain...
And less mids...
Neeeewww then ye won't be haiiired
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I want this pedal now
@Infinite Revery Im sorry if you didn't get the joke/sarcasm
thoughts by song
1. sound identical
2. original sounds funkier
3. the less full sound of the original makes for a sound that does not sound like a normal guitar sound and make the original sound more special in that regard
4. for the intro part of paradise city the original has this great retro chorus sound that just sparkles through the mix and make the song sound brighter and more like the original recording. for the later parts i cannot tell the difference between them
5. the modern pedal has a warmer sound for the whole part
6. the more scooped nature of the original suits this song better and makes for a better sound blend overall
7. sound identical
overall more sounds that the original provided that i liked but both are great
It's a subtle chorus but I love the sound. It's the kinda thing I'd keep in all the time as it just adds some extra spice to a guitar sound, it's very musical
This video is so informative, so good, so purple that it has an old purple pedal, new purple pedal and new purple Tshirt in it, the only thing missing is Purple Haze or Purple Rain being played and the ultimate purpleness would have been achived.
Thanks alot Colin. Now I have to buy the original as well.
The difference is pretty subtle, The waza seems a touch clearer and brighter, but I also don’t mind the warmth of the older one... I think I prefer the Boss Super Chorus!
hmmm i like the older one. I like the way tones resonate, especially lower notes. Maybe its that coldness you were talking about that I prefer. Bloody hell they are expensive on ebay
I paid a pretty penny for mine. It's cheaper to get the new one.
Very similar sounding indeed.. made me actually want a DC
I had the original.The new one with its multi-button is killer.Miles better.
You summed up the original perfectly.
Back in the day, the choice was very narrow.
Often, I'd only use one mode but it was lovely for the time.When guitar effects all sounded fresh.
I like the waza because it does sound more natural. The original almost had a chorus effect on it, which goes with what you said about the original, sounding like the sound is being "effected" rather than the sound just doing it.
"A grand total of no one..." is probably a great way to start a video.
Interesting comparison! Love these two pedals. I want to say you scored a great original. Mine had a noticeable volume drop, especially with gain. The Waza is about as flat as it gets; no boost or cut.
I think the best thing that these comparisons demonstrate is how close to the original the new toggle switch is. I think the did a really good job capturing the old pedal sound and then adding to it.
Excellent Demo ...many thanks :)
Yup sounds like a swirly guitar sound
not a huge difference between the two overall. the original DC-2 sounds like it has a little bit of signal degradation that's more noticeable when using the distortion, though.
I just like the effect , its sparkley and makes the guitar sound wider
If there's a slight SLIGHT difference, it's that the waza is brighter and possibly has more headroom. But I think this difference can be from old caps on the original DC-2. Perhaps something to do with the new chipset being reworked for stereo, which could affect initial gain-staging before the difference in volume was made up with other components. This is all speculation though.
Great video again man!
Can't blame him for being honest, a true Scotsman keeps his promises
They both sound good. Classic Boss sound. Good demo.
I don't hear much of a difference between the 2 when the Waza is in standard mode, although the original seems a tad bit warmer, which is commonly attributed to the difference between NOS and modern production MN3207s. The SDD-320 mode is quite a bit brighter though, and sounds "wider" as well. Both sound similar enough to my clone (built on the Blueshift board by Aion) that I'm in no rush to upgrade!
They got it really close. Good on ya Boss
Also nice to hear Get Lucky
Wow, this is exactly the video I didn't request! (it was great though, keep it up)
what's the name of the very first riff you play? heard it a million times but can't recall the name
Off topic but what software are you using to record your mixes? Also are you paying a session drummer or using drum loops?
Thanks! I really enjoyed this. At first I thought the Waza was a little brighter and it seemed like the level on the original wasn't quite as loud. But the more I listened the more I heard the volume differences between chords on the same setting - just a small difference in the playing. Maybe when things are this close to sounding alike it would be a good idea to use a looper so that the same signal is fed into each one. Just my two cents.
I'm not sure which video you watched my dude, but reamping the same signal through both pedals and then A/Bing them in edit is EXACTLY what I did.
If they sound so close that you can't hear a difference it's because they are so close that you can't hear a difference.
Spend your two cents more wisely next time.
@@ScienceofLoud Watching this one, my friend. Looping is different than playing the same thing twice. But thanks anyway. I enjoyed the video.
Without a side by side comparison I don't think I would have known this was two different pedals. But compared to the original, the waza sounds a bit more natural. Some chords on the original just sounded like they were coming out of a tin can. That was the only difference that I could hear. It was always in the chords.
waza sounds slightly wider to me, more warm too.
I hate to admit this, but the original sounds better. The new one has a strange bump in the upper midrange. There is also something going on with the low-mid of the original, like the chorus is more evenly applied?
Run to You by Bryan Adams is the tune that made me run out and get a chorus pedal.
I just got the TC Electronics 3rd Dimension recently, I will have to give the Dimension C a try in the future.
Let us know which one to Run to
That tone at 5:00 sounds so good
very nice review! Thankss
Love the sound of both but the Waza one has the edge esp with the additional settings. Too pricey for me though so I'll just have to live with my 80s era DOD chorus. :p
Now compare them both with the 3rd Dimention pedal by TC Electronic
Older has the bass on left and high on right, whereas it’s inversed on the newer one. Is that just from the recording?
While the review of this pedal was great my ability and budget doesn't warrant the Waza price. I did however hunt down a number of clones and after doing the A/B thing with them through a number of videos found one I liked and did order it. Great job.
I believe I heard Cocteau Twins' Summerhead in there. Terrific addition if so.
Aw man, I want one of these badly.
Great video! I loved this pedal, but i am not sure wich chorus pedal should i get for playing the clean Metallic riffs. Can someone help me?
@@Granite165 thanks man
Why does say Waza on the original? When switching?
Frightened the shite outta me at the end
I think it's great that you and the Anderton's folks like Bryan Adams.
Europeans aren't docked cool points the same way Americans are for such offenses 😂
1:32 freelove freeway there...nice...
My heeedphones tell me the new version has more bottom end but not much different. Great pedal though
mine tell me the contrary lol
Am i the only one who thinks that a midi input for program switsching would have been the ultimate finishing touch to this unit?. Just pre-programmed settings assigned to pre-programmed presets. And preset “0” is bypass.
love the dimension C and the waza edition is just that little bit sweeter
Hey, when did you get the Friedman tele? Im happy for you and everyone else that gets a well made axe by Grover himself, they make some seriously awesome stuff!
Curious what the original tolerances were. Granted Boss was pretty dang consistent, but I would not be surprised if two of thirty year old originals were A/B'd you could here differences as well. These are SOOOOO close.
Most noticeable difference I heard was the stereo vs. mono output. That being said I much prefer my Waza blues drive to the classic blues drive. Much better tones.
Please do an updated "rig tour" because the prs and the friedman tele are totally new right?
I preferred the original, maybe because its effect was more pronounced
Have the old dc2. Has a noticeable volume drop and clipped easily
Clearly the he old one is more organic a little thing in the bass medium fater & meaty than the new one .
I like the old one better.
I loved hearing Bryan Adams being played in this!
I bought a DC-2 in 1989 (actually got it buy 1 get 1 free and like a dummy sold 1 a decade ago for only $100) but the DC-2 seems to have more of the 3D chorus effect, and shimmer, of the rack Digital-D from which the circuitry was taken from. I tested a DC-2w and it felt too "digital" - like an Axe Fx chorus - and it lost about 5% of the "3-D magic" and that 5% is where the magic happens. I'll buy a used original before the waza redo!
The dimension D was the better pedal anyway, I use it exclusively for chorus in every pedal setup I use. I wonder if they plan on releasing it. They probably do, but the want the milk out the max $ from the each waza release.
I can't immediately tell the difference, but with something like Paradise City it was obvious that the original was closer to the original recording. It just felt more right.
The Waza sounds like it has a slightly better chorusing effect.
Sounds amazing with your first setup.
luv u
Chorus, if you have one pedal, you can do anything any other can. But Boss will try and sell you one for $230 with no tweakable options.
Take me back.....
The waza is more deep, i like the normal one in mode 2, though
Good demo. Wasa was better in my opinion. It is more clear and warm..
P.S. please clean the Tele fretboard.
It is clean, it's a relic job.
@@ScienceofLoud oh. Good job then. )))
The ending killed me xDDD
What’s Colin’s favorite Hatebreed song?
I Will Be Haired
Wish we could see the super cheap to electronic too
Damn. I don't hear a difference...
The differences probably lie in the in between sounds which he obviously couldnt show here.
Did you listen with headphones? You really can't hear the differencees in mono. I tried it both ways
Very subtle difference. Little more warm “spread” with the Waza version, but that would be lost going into an amp with my full band. Even less noticeable once Colin kicks in the gain. Neither sounds as good as my Analogman... 😉
Listening to this video would certainly make it clearer : th-cam.com/video/xjSnuBQyeq8/w-d-xo.html
There, the difference between the DC-2 and DC-2W is clearly audible. And I'll stick to my original DC-2...
Take me down to the paradise city. But phaser...
The original sounded a bit darker to me while the Waza was more we’ll well balanced
Friedman video comin' up?
Can a fellow scotsman get noticed by collin?🏴
Can you do a comparison of the Waza dimension C with the boss metalzone. And the Waza metalzone with the boss dimension C?
Big difference
Soooooooooooooooo a video of that pretty little prs thingy there wouldn't be hirtful to nobody..... Just sayin xD
P. S. Please do one xX
1:31 showin some love for David Brent: th-cam.com/video/sEtQj9wuqhs/w-d-xo.html
I feel a bit stupid, but I hear absolutely no difference between those two.
#agrandtotalofnoone
I don't hear any difference, even on headphones. I guess I can safely buy a new one.
First! 😁
I dont get why musicians need 1000 pedals. Just learn to play and you wont have to waste money on stuff to mask your bad/basic playing. If you are a noob and need to mask all your errors then buy a multi pedal. Im not sure how people dont realize multi sound pedals exist 30 years after their creation
i cant believe people are still dumb enough to make these comments. effects are not to "mask bad playing", its for people who want more than the generic guitar+distortion and nothing else. you know, MUSICIANS.
Well Shawn, this has got to be the dumbest comment I've seen in a long time.
Drop the tragic elitism and come back to the real world where creative opportunities are more important than noses in the air.
Try telling that to Paul Gilbert. I can assure you that he is in complete disagreement with your statement. Imagine that: an elite badass guitarzan has hundreds of pedals in his collection and goes out on tour with a pedal board. He must be a pretty dumb guy to be collecting all those pedals that he uses to get paid big money.
Excuse we mere mortals that may like to occasionally flavor our sound with effects. With some musicians, their creativity can be sparked by using them as I know they have for me. Plus, they are fun to work with.
So, if boiled meat & potatoes with a tiny bit of salt & pepper suits your everyday meal by all means go for it; but some of us like a treat and go out taste the richness of prime rib, lobster, tempura prawns, etc... (others around the world pick your favorite meal). Or a daily meal of blanched non-seasoned produce vs grilled vegetables brushed with a fine olive oil & herbs for my vegetarian friends.
I played for 10 years without pedals. But now that I have them, I have never, NEVER found a pedal that "masked bad playing". If anything, your bad playing will just be made more noticeable with effects, particularly delay and compression. You'd also sound worse with any dirt pedal because if you're bad at playing, chances are you don't know how to EQ your pedals with your rig.
So yeah, your argument has zero depth to it.