That's always a big crunch for movies. It's gotta be very important to the larger story but not so important that it merits any protection. This movie did not find that balance
It could have worked if Snyder's ego would let him tell a story with a small scope. Say that the galactic government has already collapsed, famine is everywhere, and it's just this one ship full of soldiers with nothing to eat arriving at the only place they can find that still has some amount of arable land. The soldiers believe that the nation they fought for still exists, the farmers don't, and there truly isn't enough for everyone, so one side or the other is going to starve.
Rebel Moon 1 - Kora beats up 6 heavily armed Military Men but they don't shoot her. Ridiculous. Rebel Moon 2 - Kora kills a young girl. Shoots her dead in cold blood. Terrifying.
I cringe every time, when people praise Snyder for the visuals & fight scenes in his early movies, because he didn't actually created them, he happened to have talented stunt coordinators & DP's working for him, that's all. The fight scenes in 300 & Watchmen for example were choreographed by the 87Eleven Stunt Team of Chad Stahelski & David Leitch, the people behind the John Wick franchise, Atomic Blonde, Bullet Train etc. For some reason Snyder, did not brought them back for Army of the Dead & Rebel Moon and it shows. Just watch this ''hallway fight'' in the space ship corridor. You can literally see the stunt guys moving extra slow, because the main actress can't keep up and they need to hide this. That's because they didn't properly rehearsed the fight choreo. Same with the cinematography on his early movies, where Snyder had experienced DP's doing the camera work. On Army of the Dead & Rebel Moon, he was the DP himself and these movies look like dog shite, visually speaking. Completely out of focus scenes, chuck full with lens flares, the lighting is way off etc. etc.
I can agree with your point about Snyder relying too much on doing everything himself in his newer movies but I think it's unfair to say that he had nothing to do with why his early movies worked. As good as the fight choreographers and cinematographers are individually, there's only so much they can do without good direction to coordinate them all together. When you look at the best parts of Snyder's earlier work, like the visuals and action, a large part of that is because they are very well directed.
I was so engaged with the farming. Why were so many people working so slow? Weren't they on an extreme time crunch? Is this all the grain? Surely we are fighting over more than this. These farmers lied about how much they have. They lied about how long it will take. Are they milling the grain into flour? Since when did they have time for that part? When did they have time to make banners!?
Snyder's Justice League STILL wasn't a good movie. It still had the same story beats and problems as Whedon's cut, just more slow motion and color desaturation. Don't get how people love it. Snyder's fan base is the absolute worst.
the first one was trash the second one I couldn't even watch...it was so trope, sappy and the dialog was horrendous...I kept fast forwarding trying to find a good part...
Imagine backstories of the characters actually tied into the heroine's killing of princess, and prelude/aftermath of killing being shown from different perspectives, as well as heroine being always on the background, teasing us with her role in all of it, until she finally confesses. Lol, stupid me.
To be honest, I genuinely can't remember any instance in either movie where they say his name other than that one instance from Anthony Hopkins. Clearly these are very well developed characters that are explored in great depth.
@11:40 "Sucker Punch was bad, but at least it actually wasn't, and is actually a really good movie." WTF?!?! Your channel sucks, but it's actually pretty awesome. LOL.
As long as charachters are entertaining and likeable they can’t be paper thin right so 6 underground was supposed to be like that considering them having comic relief.
The synder cut justice league was such a slog of pretnesion its offensive to call it a movie. I watched that movie on fast forwaard and missed nothing.
I gonestly wonder if when he said '6 films' he meant part 1-3 and the director's cut...he doesnt have enough material to fill one film. Hiw could he possibly do six?
@@doc8013 Of course not, nor Moulin Rouge either... was it Rogue Wannabe? Rogue Uno? All shite... just the "normies" and ytube shills didn't catch up to me for almost a decade. Loved the replay of the blind chinese man trope revivified for John Wickadocious IV like that could be a thing. Ppl are dumb, or at least 80% of them according to Stanley Milgram. How dare you th-cam.com/video/XhybAEYGnOc/w-d-xo.html assert I'm such a -useless- useful idiot like the rest of the ppl around meh!?
The four hour justice league movie was not that good. Was just mah but if you like watching hot dogs falling in slow motion I guess you can call it good.
It’s ridiculously bad, but in all fairness, they’re doing what they think audiences want. Audiences today have the attention span of a toddler, if the “story” was a bit more slower paced, and better written, most of you guys would call it slow and unisteresting, if more action packed and gun ho but less of a story, which is what this is, ya’ll would find ways to criticize it. So it really shouldn’t matter what these write in the first place. My story is was way better than this, and i know these guys gave taken from it, which is called stealing some way. In the end you really can’t be concerned on what audiences think, just make a good story and people will like it, that’s it.
😂😂😂 Sucker Punch, a good movie?? 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀 Definitely the best Snyder movie. It is a showcase into his psyche on how his mind works when it comes to films.
I enjoy some of his films, but Sucker Punch is ONLY good on a visual level. The “woman empowerment” movie where women retreat into their heads as they go through trauma like rape and abuse is about empowerment… of men. She ultimately gets lobotomized. What is that movie saying? Don’t try to fight back, just stay in your happy place and if you’re lucky Jon Hamm won’t make your brain malfunction?
So this small village that harvests wheat by hand is supposed to supply food for how much of the empire?
That's always a big crunch for movies. It's gotta be very important to the larger story but not so important that it merits any protection. This movie did not find that balance
It could have worked if Snyder's ego would let him tell a story with a small scope. Say that the galactic government has already collapsed, famine is everywhere, and it's just this one ship full of soldiers with nothing to eat arriving at the only place they can find that still has some amount of arable land. The soldiers believe that the nation they fought for still exists, the farmers don't, and there truly isn't enough for everyone, so one side or the other is going to starve.
Rebel Moon 1 - Kora beats up 6 heavily armed Military Men but they don't shoot her. Ridiculous.
Rebel Moon 2 - Kora kills a young girl. Shoots her dead in cold blood. Terrifying.
Oh man I hate that trope in movies where people with guns decide to run toward their target when they already have a clear line of fire.
I cringe every time, when people praise Snyder for the visuals & fight scenes in his early movies, because he didn't actually created them, he happened to have talented stunt coordinators & DP's working for him, that's all.
The fight scenes in 300 & Watchmen for example were choreographed by the 87Eleven Stunt Team of Chad Stahelski & David Leitch, the people behind the John Wick franchise, Atomic Blonde, Bullet Train etc. For some reason Snyder, did not brought them back for Army of the Dead & Rebel Moon and it shows. Just watch this ''hallway fight'' in the space ship corridor. You can literally see the stunt guys moving extra slow, because the main actress can't keep up and they need to hide this. That's because they didn't properly rehearsed the fight choreo.
Same with the cinematography on his early movies, where Snyder had experienced DP's doing the camera work. On Army of the Dead & Rebel Moon, he was the DP himself and these movies look like dog shite, visually speaking. Completely out of focus scenes, chuck full with lens flares, the lighting is way off etc. etc.
I can agree with your point about Snyder relying too much on doing everything himself in his newer movies but I think it's unfair to say that he had nothing to do with why his early movies worked. As good as the fight choreographers and cinematographers are individually, there's only so much they can do without good direction to coordinate them all together. When you look at the best parts of Snyder's earlier work, like the visuals and action, a large part of that is because they are very well directed.
this IP needs to go away quietly
Snyder isn’t gonna. If this becomes a franchise then it might as well the Busby of movies.
I liked it when it was called the magnificent seven starring Yul Brenner
Even better when it was Seven Samurai.
I needed sleep so I thought I would start watching Rebel Moon pt II. After the 30 min wheat harvest I fell asleep during the fighting 😂
You didn't miss anything.
I was so engaged with the farming. Why were so many people working so slow? Weren't they on an extreme time crunch? Is this all the grain? Surely we are fighting over more than this. These farmers lied about how much they have. They lied about how long it will take. Are they milling the grain into flour? Since when did they have time for that part? When did they have time to make banners!?
I randomly just remembered when I was little they used to sell whips everywhere. You could buy them at like gas stations, especially the fair😂😭
The eternal teenager and sweet lamb Sofia as a stormtrooper is a funny joke!👍😘🐑🍑🤣🤣🤣
Snyder's Justice League STILL wasn't a good movie.
It still had the same story beats and problems as Whedon's cut, just more slow motion and color desaturation.
Don't get how people love it. Snyder's fan base is the absolute worst.
The Snyder Cut is hot garbage.
the first one was trash the second one I couldn't even watch...it was so trope, sappy and the dialog was horrendous...I kept fast forwarding trying to find a good part...
I honestly don't have any strong feelings for Rebel Moon either way.
That's fair. It is pretty forgettable.
Brother you are so underrated, great takes!
Glad you think so!
Imagine backstories of the characters actually tied into the heroine's killing of princess, and prelude/aftermath of killing being shown from different perspectives, as well as heroine being always on the background, teasing us with her role in all of it, until she finally confesses.
Lol, stupid me.
It could have been a potentially really good way of creating some actual drama between the characters.
Gunnar, not Goo-nar. Idk why Anthony Hopkins said it like that in the opening of part 2, it's never pronounced that way otherwise.
To be honest, I genuinely can't remember any instance in either movie where they say his name other than that one instance from Anthony Hopkins. Clearly these are very well developed characters that are explored in great depth.
@@stuartbarron7117 the movies were AWFUL but they say his name constantly.
Zack literally though slow motions can save his movies
and then you realize there is four more
I'm not counting on it. I will be very shocked if this franchise is allowed to carry on beyond some obscure spinoff media.
@11:40 "Sucker Punch was bad, but at least it actually wasn't, and is actually a really good movie." WTF?!?!
Your channel sucks, but it's actually pretty awesome. LOL.
Any movie with Vanessa Hudgens and other hot chicks in tight outfits can't be all bad.
@@zeke1171 Hudgens definitely helps, but it's still a hard movie to watch.
So, are you looking forward to the 4 hour versions of part 1 and 2?
It feels like a railroaded roleplaying campaign or a mmorpg gameplay.
Whole atmosphere feels like AI made visuals and story
As long as charachters are entertaining and likeable they can’t be paper thin right so 6 underground was supposed to be like that considering them having comic relief.
Its like what you would get if you gave Tommy Wiseau a huge budget and unlimited freedom
He doesn't want to learn to be good. And they keep giving him money and opportunities. So in his mind he isn't failing. He should make video games.
Agreed with almost everything you said, except SUCKER PUNCH. One of the worst movies I've watched
The synder cut justice league was such a slog of pretnesion its offensive to call it a movie. I watched that movie on fast forwaard and missed nothing.
I gonestly wonder if when he said '6 films' he meant part 1-3 and the director's cut...he doesnt have enough material to fill one film. Hiw could he possibly do six?
How so? I never watch shite from holly wood since 2015 when The Farce Awakens shat all over my face without my consent.
You loved Force Awakens when it came out.
@@doc8013 Of course not, nor Moulin Rouge either... was it Rogue Wannabe? Rogue Uno? All shite... just the "normies" and ytube shills didn't catch up to me for almost a decade.
Loved the replay of the blind chinese man trope revivified for John Wickadocious IV like that could be a thing.
Ppl are dumb, or at least 80% of them according to Stanley Milgram.
How dare you
th-cam.com/video/XhybAEYGnOc/w-d-xo.html
assert I'm such a -useless- useful idiot like the rest of the ppl around meh!?
The four hour justice league movie was not that good. Was just mah but if you like watching hot dogs falling in slow motion I guess you can call it good.
It’s ridiculously bad, but in all fairness, they’re doing what they think audiences want. Audiences today have the attention span of a toddler, if the “story” was a bit more slower paced, and better written, most of you guys would call it slow and unisteresting, if more action packed and gun ho but less of a story, which is what this is, ya’ll would find ways to criticize it. So it really shouldn’t matter what these write in the first place. My story is was way better than this, and i know these guys gave taken from it, which is called stealing some way. In the end you really can’t be concerned on what audiences think, just make a good story and people will like it, that’s it.
I’ve never liked anything that Zack Snyder has put his hands too. He’s a hack and I said that in real time motion.😂
😂😂😂 Sucker Punch, a good movie?? 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Definitely the best Snyder movie. It is a showcase into his psyche on how his mind works when it comes to films.
I enjoy some of his films, but Sucker Punch is ONLY good on a visual level. The “woman empowerment” movie where women retreat into their heads as they go through trauma like rape and abuse is about empowerment… of men. She ultimately gets lobotomized. What is that movie saying? Don’t try to fight back, just stay in your happy place and if you’re lucky Jon Hamm won’t make your brain malfunction?
All his movies are trash yes even justice league there is no good version get over it
I will get over nothin', thank you very much!