Honestly. You're lucky that you got the rereleases of the previous Pikmin games. Most franchises didn't get that, much less dlc. Where's F-zero gx? Where's punch out Wii? Where's Luigi's mansion 1? There's too many incomplete franchises on the switch to bother with dlc.
To be honest, Pikmin 4 already has multiple free DLC built in: Trial of the Sage Leaf and Olimar's Tale, both are separate experiences that could've been DLC but aren't. I think it's quite nice we just got a complete, traditional game.
Absolutely, couldn't have said it better. This game shipped in a complete state. With that said I definitely wouldn't mind more of one of my favorite games, but I'd rather they start working on a sequel earlier than to get some DLC soon.
I genuinely think Olimar's Shipwreck Tale, as well as the Sage Leaf Trials were considered DLC at first, but they wanted the game to get reviewed as positively as possible, to grow the fanbase bigger than ever, so they threw in those modes for free.
I can see the idea for Olimar's Shipwreck Tale being a DLC but Sage Leaf Trials feel a bit too... important 2 Onions locked behind it, the ending changes slightly based on your progress, and it feeds into the general theme of the core game (dandori) much more than Olimar's Shipwreck Tale does. Sage Leaf Trials feels like Pikmin 4's challenge mode (and while Pikmin 3 did later add some extra challenge mode levels through DLC, the challenge mode itself was ultimately included at launch).
When Arlo reacted to Pikmin 4 I was confused. Why is this so special? Now that I have played it as well as the other Pikmin games I can conclude that Arlo’s reaction is the same reaction I will have for the Pikmin 5 reveal
Is Pikmin 4 worth checking out? I bought 3 and gave it a spin and I'm wondering if maybe Pikmin just isn't for me. Maybe I'll try 3 again, but i don't want to sink another $60 just to confirm yep, this series isn't my type of game.
@@gregvs.theworld451Maybe pick up 1? I blasted through 1 and 2 and loved them but stopped 3 halfway through and haven't picked it up since, 1 is 29.99 on eShop
@@gregvs.theworld451 Depends what parts of 3 you didn't really enjoy. In 4 you only control one (or like one and a half) characters so the experience is much more focused, and you're not bound to an arbitrary time limit. You can explore and progress as you please.
Actually, I think it’s the complete opposite. Pikmin has always been a niche series with only serviceable sales. There have been plenty of companies who have abandoned IPs who performed even better than Pikmin. Hell, even Nintendo has let go of some IPs that had even more broad appeal than Pikmin. I honestly believe that the only reason Pikmin is still alive is because Miyamoto still has a big presence at Nintendo. This has been his baby and it seems like he’ll do anything to keep it alive. I’m willing to bet that the reason for the long development was that he was fighting to get the project even greenlit (and I’m under the assumption that “Hey Pikmin” was the “new Pikmin” game he was talking about in 2014.
If they would even just add an option to disable the "Oh no, the poor pikmin!" messages that pop up literally every single time one pikmin dies, I would be ecstatic.
@@joshcoy6748 Yeah, all those enemies staying up late, spending savings on luxuries, leaving their valuables sitting around... How could Nintendo leave them so irresponsible?
Or just make auto lock on an option in the menu. Its my one actual major complaint with the game since it can genuinely make the game hell sometimes when you're surrounded by a horde and need to focus one specific enemy.
I personally used the Mario Odyssey logic of “probably working on the sequel for switch 2 instead.” Definitely glass half full. See ya in 10 years for Pikmin 5!
While I loved Pikmin 4 (Oatchi is a VERY good boy!), not every game needs DLC. Pikmin 4 already feels like a feature complete game. The worst thing you can say is the multiplayer feels like more of an afterthought than Pikmin 3, but the singleplayer is massive and Olimar's Shipwreck Tales would've been post-launch DLC in any other game.
I feel ya. But still, I would at least get SOME new things. A higher difficulty would be reall nice. Or the option to turn off the auto lock-on. Welp, maybe on the next Nintendo console, there will be a Pikmin 4 Deluxe...
Hi, Australian here as well. I love how us Australians love to clearly point out that we are, in fact, Australians in the youtube comment sections, probably the funniest "stereotypical youtube comment" attribute on the platform 🤣
Depends on the context of the DLC. If it is content that should be in the base game being sold as DLC it is awful or a cash grab. If it is to add to an already amazing experience, it is well worth it
No. You'd think an Atlus fan especially would appreciate having DLC over being made to buy the rereleased deluxe version of the entire game to receive additional content.
@GeraldDatDudeJohnson But most DLC is claimed to be stuff that should've been in the game, even if it gets revealed after the game release and handled by a new-ish team, so that's not really an argument.
Arlo has been waiting so long for Pikmin 4 that after getting and completing the game, he can’t handle the facf that the game has a proper end. Can’t blame him though, yet this may begin the first stage of grief, with Arlo denying the idea that Pikmin 4 not getting DLC.
@@uberculex post game is not getting all platinum ranks,most of those are easily achievable the first time through. No the stuff past the fake out credits isn't post game
Pikmin 4 is still on my "games to buy" list that I haven't bought. To be honest finding a job in my town is nearly impossible. Even the people that live in my town have to find work in a different town. So buying new games especially $60 games is almost impossible for me right now.
"Flying Flatterchuck" really genuinely made me think a different four letter word starting with F- was about to cone out of the family friendly Arlo's mouth. 😂 Man's passionate about Pikmin so it almost wouldn't surprise me.
Wait, were we expecting Pikmin 4 DLC? Did they ever say it was in the cards? I never really thought on it and assumed it was a case of Mario Party Superstars where we get what we get and that's that. Of course DLC would absolutely be nice but if they never hinted at any then I don't understand the expectation.
I like Arlo but he tends to do this a lot were he expects something that was ether never expressed or is rushing something to release already. Nintendo is one of the few that actually takes their time with making games. He also just seems to have a thing for DLC in general. Like originally he scoffed at the idea of Splatoon 3 and thought it should just be DLC for Splatoon 2
it's just one of those games like odyssey where it's the most perfect fit for dlc, also they started showing these images that were clearly using a developer version of the game that implied there was some kind of 2 player thing going on, it was very strange
I'd say it's a combination of his love for Pikmin, the fact that 3 got dlc, and he just wants more yo play. I'd also love DLC, but I don't think precedent is set unless the previous 2 entries to a title get it. It's just wishful thinking otherwise
8:34 a level editor is something I had hoped for forever in pikmin, imagine the caves and levels that can be made, traps puzzles enemy placements… imagine if it was on the quality of forge in halo 3
My biggest fear for this topic is that the new console will not be backwards compatible and will require you to buy Pikmin 4 again but with all that juicy new content (which sadly i would pay for anyway) and they are just saving DLC/more content to drop with a "rerelease"
Seriously, I dunno where people are getting this idea.... it's actually stupid to believe dlc is coming. Edit: please @ me when the dlc does come out and tell me how wrong I was, even though I'm right. 😜
Arlo has a point with the upgrades you can only get after the end of the game, imagine the amount of stuff you can do with being able to carry stuff as a Captain just in case you don't have enough pikmin
Tears of the Kingdom not getting any DLC has got to be the fumble of the century. They basically destroyed the coolest things about the world of BOTW , and sure what they built in TOTK was great, But it just wasnt the same.
So here’s my theory: we’re not getting anything till Switch 2, where we get Pikmin 4 Deluxe. That’s where we’ll get online dandori battles, a proper challenge mode, and new game+, as well as full co-op, whether that’s local or WiFi I’m not gonna guess, but I have a shred of evidence. The Joy-Cons were treasures in the Newly Nostalgic collection. It’s kinda weird to be nostalgic for their current system, isn’t it? But if the switch 2 gets Pikmin 4 Deluxe, then it would make more sense. It’s newly nostalgic because the switch is finally in the past.
I definitely agree about even just a New Game Plus would make me jump in again. The gameplay was absolutely perfect but the pacing for unlocking everything felt off. Felt like before I even could enjoy the fact Oachi was very powerful, using the Other Pikmin onions or being able to carry things as a captain.. it was all over 😢
I personally think we’re going to get at least something for four, either a series of small updates or one or two big dlc‘s stuff, and then they’ll start working on the fifth game.
I had an idea for a dlc. Remember the president? I was thinking maybe he would go to PNF-404 on his own to find treasure to repay another debt. Maybe he could stumble upon new pikmin types (like 2 or even 3). Maybe he explores 2 new areas showing the strengths and weaknesses of the new pikmin types. He could also discover new neverbefore seen treasures. This is an idea I've been thinking about for a while and wanted to share it. Maybe the title of the dlc could be called: The Presidents voyage.
I will die on the hill that the hats and outfits from Pikmin bloom should have been available. That way you can name and recognize each Pikmin in a crowd and get entirely too attached to them
Another possible scenario is they could be waiting for the next system to be officially revealed, that way they can not only announce DLC but also announce "deluxe" addition for the next console as a launch title or a launch window release, Switch owners can buy the DLC but it would come packaged with the next gen version
Ive noticed that when it comes to paid DLC, Nintendo usually announces it ahead of the games release. Breathe of the Wild, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade Chronicles, Smash Ultimate, Splatoon 2 and 3. Hell, i think even Luigu mansions 3's multiplayer DLC was announced ahead of the games release. There's some exceptions but for the most part if they dont announce it before the games release, i dont expect anything coming.
Nintendo: “Lol, what are you talking about? Pikmin 4’s already perfect, it doesn’t need additional content! …Why are you grabbing those pitchforks and torches…?”
Hey, I'm still wondering where the FLIP the next Star Fox game is? Reminder to everyone that Miyamoto stated in an interview after Star Fox Zero came out that he "wants to put more energy into Star Fox and Pikmin". It so incredibly disappointing that Star Fox has just skipped the switch generation, a perfect time to really test Star Fox's status without BAD data getting in the way. I want to have that Arlo Moment, I want to be massively stunned and excited for something. The only thinks that have only done that are rumors of Star Fox Assault getting a remake or remaster and that might not happen.
I'd love to see some snow levels DLC, Released around mid Nov. Make the red or rock Pikmin heat absorbent when walking across fire, and give them some sort of ice/snow melting ability.
As fun as DLC is sometimes, not every game needs it. In fact I rather like that Nintendo only rarely releases DLC because it shows that for the most part they focus on releasing complete experiences without purposefully holding back content for later like a lot of other studios do. When games are already so expensive, sometimes it doesn’t feel great to have to pay even more just to get the complete experience. Every once in a while after a game is fully complete, if the devs then still feel like there’s more significant value they can add with DLC, especially if it wouldn’t work as its own game, then that’s when I find DLC at its best (ex. Echoes of the Eye for Outer Wilds or the free expansions to Hollow Knight)
I personally think the culture of DLC is horrible, and i am glad that we didnt get any (to date) for Pikmin 4. I commend Nintendo on a job well done after this game releasing in full after over half a decade in development hell.
You’re a real fan and I can tell because you make videos about wanting stuff that’s definitely never going to happen (I don’t actually know that obviously, maybe it’s coming but I feel doubtful for whatever reason, probably because it’s been a while since the game released, would be great though)
a lot of people in these comments seem to think a game getting DLC means it's 'incomplete' idk where that's coming from plenty of "finished" games get DLC because why not get extra?
Because we live in an era of incomplete releases and Post launch making up for a shallow one Sorry to be a party pooper, but that's just how Non nintendo games are doing
@@autismandgaming4532 Even for non-Nintendo games most so-called "incomplete" releases are lacking in QA not content. The only type of games where DLC is regularly anything like a necessary part of the "complete" experience are live-service games and those games are fundamentally never really finished.
@@autismandgaming4532 yeah I know a lot of examples but a lot of people here are saying 'pikmin 4 is complete it doesn't need DLC" when if they made one with like 2 more big zones would anyone really be upset with that?
That used to be the case, I dont think it is in the current gaming landscape, quick DLC pretty much always means something was cut out of the game to sell back to gamers at a higher price point
Maybe they’re waiting for switch 2 so they can release pikmin 4 deluxe with extra content. People would probably be annoyed but it seems like the kind of stunt Nintendo might pull.
Consumers shouldn't hope for developers to withhold content until after you've made a purchase, I don't care how common season passes and such have become, the best case scenario is if development started post launch.
On the subject of Star Allies, while I don't think anything has been confirmed I always felt like 90% of the post launch content was meant to be in the base game. It's no secret that the games felt kind of shallow when it came out and I believe that was for two reasons: First getting the friend AI to work properly and figuring out how to design the game so that none of them ran into any problems and second because they didn't want to miss the 25th anniversary. They were almost a year late with the actual release itself and all the content wasn't added until late 2018. They decided to release the game early to still be part of the celebration and settled on adding the other stuff later. Heroes in Another Dimension was specifically made in response to criticism yes, but the Dream Friends were most likely meant to be there from the start, given the rest of the games legacy celebrating nature. Forgotten Land was a complete game at launch so HAL probably didn't see a reason to give it DLC.
They also may be planning a Pikmin 4 Deluxe for Switch 2. Especially if Pikmin 5 is a few years away. But my first thought was that we already got the DLC content built into the fame with the Olimar story and cave trials.
What if games can just come out with a lot of content and not need any dlc? Olimar’s Tale and the Sage Leaf basically feel like free DLC, would people like them more if they had to pay for them?
I would like them _less_ if I paid extra for them. They were good little side things to do in an already great game, but if I had to pay more money just to access Olimar's Tale and especially Sage Leaf I would be disappointed that they were so short and insubstantial for the money.
I'd like to know the first ever game with DLC. I feel like we are all conditioned now to expect it. I feel like games need to go back to just releasing. I loved Pikmin 4. Best Pikmin ever as most Nintendo series are on the switch. But I don't think it needs DLC at all. nor do any of the great games on Switch... If I enjoy a game it was worth it to me
Thank you, I’ve been saying this since February of this year. Just add 1-2 more areas (please have a snow one🙏) some more dandori challenges, and an option to not have auto lock and boom, you surpass Pikmin 3 as my favorite Pikmin game
I’d actually be happy with just getting a bunch more Dandori challenges. I was honestly expecting for there to be more of them in the base game, and I feel like those wouldn’t be that crazy to make a bunch of.
The game is content complete. Olimars 30 day time limit side mission feels like it was supposed to be free DLC and then the quest to get the purple and pink onions. Felt like DLC challenger missions. But I want MORE!!! Co op mission mode would be nice and a better multiplayer vs mode. Bingo battle is so incredible. 12 levels with 3 variations each. Different Pikmin types and the ever changing bingo card just meant it was endlessly replayable.
OKAY SERIOUSLY THOUGH PINNED COMMENT
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Honestly. You're lucky that you got the rereleases of the previous Pikmin games. Most franchises didn't get that, much less dlc. Where's F-zero gx? Where's punch out Wii? Where's Luigi's mansion 1? There's too many incomplete franchises on the switch to bother with dlc.
How is Raycon even still around? 😂
Wow, this muppet can say one sentence and drag it into 15 minute video of wishful thinking, as long as it is about pikmin😂
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To be honest, Pikmin 4 already has multiple free DLC built in: Trial of the Sage Leaf and Olimar's Tale, both are separate experiences that could've been DLC but aren't.
I think it's quite nice we just got a complete, traditional game.
Totally agree. It was a complete experience and I was satisfied with it.
Yeah thats what I was thinking, Pikmin 3 needed DLC. 4 feels like its included and beyond
Absolutely, couldn't have said it better. This game shipped in a complete state.
With that said I definitely wouldn't mind more of one of my favorite games, but I'd rather they start working on a sequel earlier than to get some DLC soon.
Hard agree
you guys have no clue how much I MISS complete games. Pikmin 4 is great BECAUSE it was finished and done!
"Oh my copium is ready" has got to be on the best ways to end a video ever.
Agreed, up there as one of the best outro bits
6:32 whats that text that flashes across the screen? i played at 0.25x speed & screenshotted but cannot find anything about it online
don't worry, according to miyamoto, pikmin 5 is almost complete. we should see it in 2035.
That news article meme is the greatest thing I have ever seen on the Internet
@@Majed2000AFR
Lol
I genuinely think Olimar's Shipwreck Tale, as well as the Sage Leaf Trials were considered DLC at first, but they wanted the game to get reviewed as positively as possible, to grow the fanbase bigger than ever, so they threw in those modes for free.
I can see the idea for Olimar's Shipwreck Tale being a DLC but Sage Leaf Trials feel a bit too... important
2 Onions locked behind it, the ending changes slightly based on your progress, and it feeds into the general theme of the core game (dandori) much more than Olimar's Shipwreck Tale does. Sage Leaf Trials feels like Pikmin 4's challenge mode (and while Pikmin 3 did later add some extra challenge mode levels through DLC, the challenge mode itself was ultimately included at launch).
When Arlo reacted to Pikmin 4 I was confused. Why is this so special? Now that I have played it as well as the other Pikmin games I can conclude that Arlo’s reaction is the same reaction I will have for the Pikmin 5 reveal
@user-vj6qb7tn6y The first Pikmin is in my top 5 games ever
Is Pikmin 4 worth checking out? I bought 3 and gave it a spin and I'm wondering if maybe Pikmin just isn't for me. Maybe I'll try 3 again, but i don't want to sink another $60 just to confirm yep, this series isn't my type of game.
Can't wait for Pikmin 5 in 2033.
@@gregvs.theworld451Maybe pick up 1? I blasted through 1 and 2 and loved them but stopped 3 halfway through and haven't picked it up since, 1 is 29.99 on eShop
@@gregvs.theworld451 Depends what parts of 3 you didn't really enjoy.
In 4 you only control one (or like one and a half) characters so the experience is much more focused, and you're not bound to an arbitrary time limit. You can explore and progress as you please.
I fear it may be going the way of the Odyssey…
The thing about Odyssey is that is it got some free updates so it wasn’t completely abandoned.
Shaddup lol
Odyssey had one of the best post game of all time, it does not need a dlc
@@Manny4Life948Just mostly abandoned.
Why fear it's amazing a complete game with no need to add content
Its on Miyamoto's "get around to it never" list on his hard drive.
Nah man it'll take "only 3 years", just like Pikmin 4 😅
Right next to Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong, and Star Fox.
@@Barquevious_JacksonAnd F-Zero
Actually, I think it’s the complete opposite. Pikmin has always been a niche series with only serviceable sales. There have been plenty of companies who have abandoned IPs who performed even better than Pikmin. Hell, even Nintendo has let go of some IPs that had even more broad appeal than Pikmin.
I honestly believe that the only reason Pikmin is still alive is because Miyamoto still has a big presence at Nintendo. This has been his baby and it seems like he’ll do anything to keep it alive. I’m willing to bet that the reason for the long development was that he was fighting to get the project even greenlit (and I’m under the assumption that “Hey Pikmin” was the “new Pikmin” game he was talking about in 2014.
@@kingrocky7519 People have pointed out that he talked about a new Pikmin game even after Hey!'s reveal, so it can't really be that.
Maybe the Pikmin DLC was the Pikmin we plucked upon the way
Nice
It’s along the way
Good one 🤣
Ohmigosh a don’t starve player
💯
If they would even just add an option to disable the "Oh no, the poor pikmin!" messages that pop up literally every single time one pikmin dies, I would be ecstatic.
Personally I think they should have made enemies responsible(respawn, typo!) on the overworld after about 2 or 3 days or so.
@@joshcoy6748 Yeah, all those enemies staying up late, spending savings on luxuries, leaving their valuables sitting around... How could Nintendo leave them so irresponsible?
@@totokekedile get those enemies a career Nintendo!
Or just make auto lock on an option in the menu. Its my one actual major complaint with the game since it can genuinely make the game hell sometimes when you're surrounded by a horde and need to focus one specific enemy.
@@darcidious99It’s why I waited for mods to fix it. It was annoying just in the demo alone.
I personally used the Mario Odyssey logic of “probably working on the sequel for switch 2 instead.”
Definitely glass half full. See ya in 10 years for Pikmin 5!
here in Japan there are still Pikmin 4 ads on the train even after a year, they’re really cute I love seeing them haha
OKAY SERIOUSLY THOUGH WHERE IS THE PIKMIN 4 REVIEW
I'm still waiting for them to bring creature respawns back to the overworld 😭
While I loved Pikmin 4 (Oatchi is a VERY good boy!), not every game needs DLC. Pikmin 4 already feels like a feature complete game. The worst thing you can say is the multiplayer feels like more of an afterthought than Pikmin 3, but the singleplayer is massive and Olimar's Shipwreck Tales would've been post-launch DLC in any other game.
I know right?! We got a fully loaded game with plenty they could have used as DLC but DIDN’T. Arlo sounds like a brat honestly.
I feel ya. But still, I would at least get SOME new things. A higher difficulty would be reall nice. Or the option to turn off the auto lock-on. Welp, maybe on the next Nintendo console, there will be a Pikmin 4 Deluxe...
I did 100% of everything and it's definitely lacking content and challenges.
@@mmstickcontent compared some other games sure, but I haven’t even done all the sage trials and I’m at 42 hours, there is plenty of content
Trail of the Sage Leaf totally screams DLC too, especially with how the onions you get there are treated like bonus consolation prizes.
Hi, Australian here. Sorry but I think we lost the DLC off the south coast of Australia, we have a tendency to do that :(
Tasmania is your DLC?
Maybe a dingo ate your DLC
Hi, Australian here as well. I love how us Australians love to clearly point out that we are, in fact, Australians in the youtube comment sections, probably the funniest "stereotypical youtube comment" attribute on the platform 🤣
@@RealPlasmat1c as a fellow Australian…. yeah you’re right lol
@@RealPlasmat1cif we don't say it nobody will know
Remember when we used to hate the idea of dlcs and now we are basically begging for it?
Depends on the context of the DLC. If it is content that should be in the base game being sold as DLC it is awful or a cash grab. If it is to add to an already amazing experience, it is well worth it
No.
You'd think an Atlus fan especially would appreciate having DLC over being made to buy the rereleased deluxe version of the entire game to receive additional content.
@@VitalVampyr I am not one of *them* I assure you ; )
Well for pikmin 3 the dlc was the best part of the game.
@GeraldDatDudeJohnson But most DLC is claimed to be stuff that should've been in the game, even if it gets revealed after the game release and handled by a new-ish team, so that's not really an argument.
Honestly Miyamoto talks about Pikmin so dearly and frequently, I almost forget he's the Mario guy. He's kinda the Pikmin guy now lol
Okay seriously though WHERE IS THE PIKMIN 4 REVIEW ARLO?!?!
Arlo has been waiting so long for Pikmin 4 that after getting and completing the game, he can’t handle the facf that the game has a proper end. Can’t blame him though, yet this may begin the first stage of grief, with Arlo denying the idea that Pikmin 4 not getting DLC.
Took the words right outta my mouth.
Cus they have no post game or new game + it needs something even just an update
@@zacharybecker8228 The post game is getting all platinum ranks. You could even argue that everything after the first credits roll is post game.
@@uberculex post game is not getting all platinum ranks,most of those are easily achievable the first time through. No the stuff past the fake out credits isn't post game
@@zacharybecker8228 Maybe for you.....
Pikmin 4 is still on my "games to buy" list that I haven't bought. To be honest finding a job in my town is nearly impossible. Even the people that live in my town have to find work in a different town. So buying new games especially $60 games is almost impossible for me right now.
"Flying Flatterchuck" really genuinely made me think a different four letter word starting with F- was about to cone out of the family friendly Arlo's mouth. 😂
Man's passionate about Pikmin so it almost wouldn't surprise me.
Arlo's canon notification sound being 'Pikmin!' is perfect
Technically, Mario Odyssey’s DLC was Luigi’s Balloon World (and Labo VR). I know that ain’t much, but technically it’s something still.
LMAOOOO the ending gag was hilarious
But yeah, I can easily see Pikmin 5 being worked on for the Switch successor as we speak. ... Hopefully.
If they're working on pikmin 5 for the switch 2 I'd be happy to sacrifice pikmin 4 dlc
Wait, were we expecting Pikmin 4 DLC? Did they ever say it was in the cards? I never really thought on it and assumed it was a case of Mario Party Superstars where we get what we get and that's that.
Of course DLC would absolutely be nice but if they never hinted at any then I don't understand the expectation.
I like Arlo but he tends to do this a lot were he expects something that was ether never expressed or is rushing something to release already. Nintendo is one of the few that actually takes their time with making games.
He also just seems to have a thing for DLC in general. Like originally he scoffed at the idea of Splatoon 3 and thought it should just be DLC for Splatoon 2
it's just one of those games like odyssey where it's the most perfect fit for dlc, also they started showing these images that were clearly using a developer version of the game that implied there was some kind of 2 player thing going on, it was very strange
The last game did have dlc though and I spent so much time platinuming those challenges. I'm happy on a sooner Pikmin 5 though
I'd say it's a combination of his love for Pikmin, the fact that 3 got dlc, and he just wants more yo play. I'd also love DLC, but I don't think precedent is set unless the previous 2 entries to a title get it. It's just wishful thinking otherwise
Not really I was baffled by this video. No one should expect dlc from Nintendo unless they announce it, that's the pattern
Arlo says *Pikmin 4 4K + Pikmin 5* is a Switch 2 launch title, you heard it here first.
8:34 a level editor is something I had hoped for forever in pikmin, imagine the caves and levels that can be made, traps puzzles enemy placements… imagine if it was on the quality of forge in halo 3
They're waiting on your review.
My biggest fear for this topic is that the new console will not be backwards compatible and will require you to buy Pikmin 4 again but with all that juicy new content (which sadly i would pay for anyway) and they are just saving DLC/more content to drop with a "rerelease"
Imagine they tweet out the announcement for pikmin 4 dlc an hour after this goes up.
I would kill for a Pikmin 3 styled mini story using the bootleg Alph, Brittany, and Charlie that you rescue
Dont encourage companies to make dlc's for beloved franchises. They will most certainly ruin them with it.
You expected DLC? After getting every Pikmin game on Switch and Pikmin 4 having as much content as it does?
this
Seriously, I dunno where people are getting this idea.... it's actually stupid to believe dlc is coming.
Edit: please @ me when the dlc does come out and tell me how wrong I was, even though I'm right. 😜
Also, DLC for Nintendo game is still not common despite some exceptions.
I agree. Like, I get hoping for DLC, but it's not a given, especially for Nintendo.
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Arlo has a point with the upgrades you can only get after the end of the game, imagine the amount of stuff you can do with being able to carry stuff as a Captain just in case you don't have enough pikmin
Tears of the Kingdom not getting any DLC has got to be the fumble of the century. They basically destroyed the coolest things about the world of BOTW , and sure what they built in TOTK was great, But it just wasnt the same.
So here’s my theory: we’re not getting anything till Switch 2, where we get Pikmin 4 Deluxe. That’s where we’ll get online dandori battles, a proper challenge mode, and new game+, as well as full co-op, whether that’s local or WiFi I’m not gonna guess, but I have a shred of evidence. The Joy-Cons were treasures in the Newly Nostalgic collection. It’s kinda weird to be nostalgic for their current system, isn’t it? But if the switch 2 gets Pikmin 4 Deluxe, then it would make more sense. It’s newly nostalgic because the switch is finally in the past.
I demand my Bingo Battles to come back! And make monsters respawn!!!
At 6:32 there's a single frame with a wall of text talking about a great beast. Weird. Is Arlo doing an ARG?
honestly even if we never get dlc, i'd be happy with an update that just adds a hard mode and a toggle to the accessibility features
A level editor would hold us off for years, and also be the best thing ever. Even better than Merio maker (which tbh is pretty eh)
I definitely agree about even just a New Game Plus would make me jump in again. The gameplay was absolutely perfect but the pacing for unlocking everything felt off. Felt like before I even could enjoy the fact Oachi was very powerful, using the Other Pikmin onions or being able to carry things as a captain..
it was all over 😢
Only 14 more years till Pikmin 5
I personally think we’re going to get at least something for four, either a series of small updates or one or two big dlc‘s stuff, and then they’ll start working on the fifth game.
I didn’t expect to see you here
I really thought Arlo was about to drop an “F bomb” in the beginning there for a second.
😂 it almost did sound like it
I had an idea for a dlc. Remember the president? I was thinking maybe he would go to PNF-404 on his own to find treasure to repay another debt. Maybe he could stumble upon new pikmin types (like 2 or even 3). Maybe he explores 2 new areas showing the strengths and weaknesses of the new pikmin types. He could also discover new neverbefore seen treasures. This is an idea I've been thinking about for a while and wanted to share it. Maybe the title of the dlc could be called: The Presidents voyage.
I love how even Miyamoto sees the potential that Mario can be surpassed.
If they did make a dlc, i would hope that it is under 30 dollars/euros
I need to start using flying flatterchuck as a euphemism.
This is the only breaking news I need Arlo
to cover today
"Top down Zelda for the first time in a CENTURY" becomes better when you realize (REDACTED) actually DID come out last century
Honestly this is probably one of my favourite Arlo videos ever. That LEGO analogy was great and that copium joke at the end was honestly hilarious!
I just really hope for Pikmin 5 on Switch 2.
With all 4 games playable on Switch i don't really need more now.
I just picked up this game for $35 from target. I’ve never actually dove deep into a pikman game before so I’m excited to check it out.
My uncle works for Nintendo and he told me that they will not release it until Arlo reviews the main game.
Only 1 arlo in the raycon ad? Parallel universes have collapsed.
I will die on the hill that the hats and outfits from Pikmin bloom should have been available. That way you can name and recognize each Pikmin in a crowd and get entirely too attached to them
I need a true co-op mode so bad
If Switch Sports can get DLC 2 years later out of nowhere, I think Pikmin fans can cope a little longer
Didn’t switch sports get a golf dlc way earlier?
Another possible scenario is they could be waiting for the next system to be officially revealed, that way they can not only announce DLC but also announce "deluxe" addition for the next console as a launch title or a launch window release, Switch owners can buy the DLC but it would come packaged with the next gen version
Ive noticed that when it comes to paid DLC, Nintendo usually announces it ahead of the games release. Breathe of the Wild, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade Chronicles, Smash Ultimate, Splatoon 2 and 3. Hell, i think even Luigu mansions 3's multiplayer DLC was announced ahead of the games release. There's some exceptions but for the most part if they dont announce it before the games release, i dont expect anything coming.
Honestly just an update that allows overworld enemies to respawn... Why hasn't even THAT been done.
Nintendo: “Lol, what are you talking about? Pikmin 4’s already perfect, it doesn’t need additional content!
…Why are you grabbing those pitchforks and torches…?”
I too have a couple flying flatterchucks that need answering.
anybody gonna talk about the wall of text at 6:32??? ARLO WHAT DOES THAT MEEEEAN
Where is the Pikmin 2 long form review? We've been waiting
Hey, I'm still wondering where the FLIP the next Star Fox game is? Reminder to everyone that Miyamoto stated in an interview after Star Fox Zero came out that he "wants to put more energy into Star Fox and Pikmin". It so incredibly disappointing that Star Fox has just skipped the switch generation, a perfect time to really test Star Fox's status without BAD data getting in the way. I want to have that Arlo Moment, I want to be massively stunned and excited for something. The only thinks that have only done that are rumors of Star Fox Assault getting a remake or remaster and that might not happen.
I actually didn't know Miyamoto had hoped that Pikmin would become bigger than Mario, that's news to me wow
I'd love to see some snow levels DLC,
Released around mid Nov.
Make the red or rock Pikmin heat absorbent when walking across fire, and give them some sort of ice/snow melting ability.
Fox McCloud: Does me or my team mean NOTHING to you anymore?! Why not us, Nintendo? Where is our comeback?
They’re waiting for your big review first, silly!
As fun as DLC is sometimes, not every game needs it. In fact I rather like that Nintendo only rarely releases DLC because it shows that for the most part they focus on releasing complete experiences without purposefully holding back content for later like a lot of other studios do. When games are already so expensive, sometimes it doesn’t feel great to have to pay even more just to get the complete experience. Every once in a while after a game is fully complete, if the devs then still feel like there’s more significant value they can add with DLC, especially if it wouldn’t work as its own game, then that’s when I find DLC at its best (ex. Echoes of the Eye for Outer Wilds or the free expansions to Hollow Knight)
I personally think the culture of DLC is horrible, and i am glad that we didnt get any (to date) for Pikmin 4.
I commend Nintendo on a job well done after this game releasing in full after over half a decade in development hell.
You’re a real fan and I can tell because you make videos about wanting stuff that’s definitely never going to happen (I don’t actually know that obviously, maybe it’s coming but I feel doubtful for whatever reason, probably because it’s been a while since the game released, would be great though)
100% agree. Especially on the level editor. Whether they add it to 4 or make a standalone Pikmin Maker, I'd love to see it.
Dlc that turns off autolock
a lot of people in these comments seem to think a game getting DLC means it's 'incomplete'
idk where that's coming from plenty of "finished" games get DLC because why not get extra?
Because we live in an era of incomplete releases and Post launch making up for a shallow one
Sorry to be a party pooper, but that's just how Non nintendo games are doing
@@autismandgaming4532 Even for non-Nintendo games most so-called "incomplete" releases are lacking in QA not content.
The only type of games where DLC is regularly anything like a necessary part of the "complete" experience are live-service games and those games are fundamentally never really finished.
@@autismandgaming4532 yeah I know a lot of examples but a lot of people here are saying 'pikmin 4 is complete it doesn't need DLC" when if they made one with like 2 more big zones would anyone really be upset with that?
That used to be the case, I dont think it is in the current gaming landscape, quick DLC pretty much always means something was cut out of the game to sell back to gamers at a higher price point
Maybe they’re waiting for switch 2 so they can release pikmin 4 deluxe with extra content. People would probably be annoyed but it seems like the kind of stunt Nintendo might pull.
Consumers shouldn't hope for developers to withhold content until after you've made a purchase, I don't care how common season passes and such have become, the best case scenario is if development started post launch.
Yay new arlo pikyappin
On the subject of Star Allies, while I don't think anything has been confirmed I always felt like 90% of the post launch content was meant to be in the base game.
It's no secret that the games felt kind of shallow when it came out and I believe that was for two reasons: First getting the friend AI to work properly and figuring out how to design the game so that none of them ran into any problems and second because they didn't want to miss the 25th anniversary. They were almost a year late with the actual release itself and all the content wasn't added until late 2018. They decided to release the game early to still be part of the celebration and settled on adding the other stuff later.
Heroes in Another Dimension was specifically made in response to criticism yes, but the Dream Friends were most likely meant to be there from the start, given the rest of the games legacy celebrating nature.
Forgotten Land was a complete game at launch so HAL probably didn't see a reason to give it DLC.
“The first title staring Zelda herself!” I guess Arlo has forgotten Zelda: the Wand of Gamelon lol.
They also may be planning a Pikmin 4 Deluxe for Switch 2. Especially if Pikmin 5 is a few years away.
But my first thought was that we already got the DLC content built into the fame with the Olimar story and cave trials.
Dont worry, Arlo. It's basically almost done!
I checked my phone at the end of the video because I have the SAME TEXT TONE!! I love you Arlo
What if games can just come out with a lot of content and not need any dlc? Olimar’s Tale and the Sage Leaf basically feel like free DLC, would people like them more if they had to pay for them?
I would like them _less_ if I paid extra for them. They were good little side things to do in an already great game, but if I had to pay more money just to access Olimar's Tale and especially Sage Leaf I would be disappointed that they were so short and insubstantial for the money.
I'd like to know the first ever game with DLC. I feel like we are all conditioned now to expect it. I feel like games need to go back to just releasing. I loved Pikmin 4. Best Pikmin ever as most Nintendo series are on the switch. But I don't think it needs DLC at all. nor do any of the great games on Switch... If I enjoy a game it was worth it to me
The fact that we still never got two player story with Oatchi hurts my soul.
Thank you, I’ve been saying this since February of this year. Just add 1-2 more areas (please have a snow one🙏) some more dandori challenges, and an option to not have auto lock and boom, you surpass Pikmin 3 as my favorite Pikmin game
Butternut Squash? Yes Please!
it had just occurred to me that pikmin 4 turns a year old in a week, yipee
There’s a dlc? Sorry didn’t know
I’d actually be happy with just getting a bunch more Dandori challenges. I was honestly expecting for there to be more of them in the base game, and I feel like those wouldn’t be that crazy to make a bunch of.
The game is content complete. Olimars 30 day time limit side mission feels like it was supposed to be free DLC and then the quest to get the purple and pink onions. Felt like DLC challenger missions.
But I want MORE!!!
Co op mission mode would be nice and a better multiplayer vs mode.
Bingo battle is so incredible. 12 levels with 3 variations each. Different Pikmin types and the ever changing bingo card just meant it was endlessly replayable.
happy to see another pikmin video by the man himself
That ending surprised me and made me laugh. Good job!
What do you mean, Arlo? Pikmin 4 is chock full of Dandori Loving Creatures!
holy crap pikmin 4 is ALMOST A YEAR OLD!?
Olimar's Shipwreck tale was basically the DLC just put in the game at launch.