FIRST Review: MoFi SourcePoint 10

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 452

  • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
    @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว +31

    There's an Audiophiliac/Steve Guttenberg imposter scamming my viewers, There’s no FREE gifts. DON’T respond! I don't do giveaways or ask for money (except for my Patreon).

    • @gregoryfrassetti1276
      @gregoryfrassetti1276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The imposter/you promised that I will be getting these new Mofi speakers for free... That wasn't you Steve? Heart broken.
      Lol. I wish

    • @mpi5850
      @mpi5850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you’re telling me I’m not actually invited over for dinner this weekend?

    • @COGuyStuff
      @COGuyStuff ปีที่แล้ว

      So you still got my nudes, right?

    • @wrinkleneckbass
      @wrinkleneckbass ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They've been doing the scam for a long time with many different people. Basically, they respond to your post as the TH-camr and say you won a give away and you need to contact them through Telegram. They ask for shipping information and it all sounds normal until they ask for shipping costs up front, which is usually around $149. Many people fall for it and of course they never receive the item.

    • @keplermission
      @keplermission ปีที่แล้ว

      Back in the days after the 1970s Leak 3050, British engineers started to make plastic baffle speakers, one being the Arcam Alpha, just like boom box speakers but larger and uh ... when Tag McLaren had made them with Andrew Jones, a huge price tag fee had been affixed for all his trouble. But who bought them? Well they were bought by loads of friends and you know, that was that.

  • @ujean56
    @ujean56 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I haven't been this excited about an Audiophiliac review in months! The interview with Andrew was epic! I want a pair of SourcePoint 10s, yesterday!

  • @TheMirolab
    @TheMirolab ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Finally an Andrew Jones design that seems like it was meant for ME! I fell in love with the $30k TAD's, but I'm operating at more of a $3k budget. The Elac's were a step down for me, and simply didn't move any air. Now, with a 10" woofer, this is an AJ design that I really need to consider!! As a longtime Tannoy owner, I love the concept.

  • @rickmathis8590
    @rickmathis8590 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm really excited about hearing these, Steve! Andrew has designed some magical speakers throughout his career, and these certainly seem to follow that trend. They're gorgeous too, so that's a plus as well. Thanks for another great review, Steve!

    • @peterpeters4553
      @peterpeters4553 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take a look at Jay's audiolab, totally different review, keeps things in perspective, listen to his prediction about the Mofi's.

  • @rosswarren436
    @rosswarren436 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good to know it can play at low to moderate volumes and STILL sound excellent! Thank you! Many other less experienced reviewers never mention that when doing reviews.

    • @scottvamp
      @scottvamp ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Little bit higher sensitivity, paper driver, dual ports and a solid box. I can see it sounding great at low volumes just like Tekton’s. But the Tekton’s have even more sensitivity. Nice to know other speaker builders are thinking outside of the box, sort of speak.

  • @michaeltache3681
    @michaeltache3681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was so lucky to hear these at the Florida Audio Expo. Li ordered a pair while at the show. Got the meet Andrew. I was in heaven. I didn’t even know about this speaker until this morning. And I’m not impulsive…..

    • @Hifiwino
      @Hifiwino ปีที่แล้ว

      What power amp are you setting these up with?

  • @pennfootball71
    @pennfootball71 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was at Capital Audio Fest and heard this and was like WOW they sound like a 20,000 dollar speaker and Andrew jones literally just walked right in front of me and smiled when I sait it! haha It was a great time and great speaker.

  • @rl9810
    @rl9810 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'm currently attending the Capital Audio Fest, where these speakers were unveiled. After one day, I've seen about 3/5 of the rooms. I can honestly say, after listening to some $100k+ speakers all the way down, that these Mofi Source Point Tens were probably one of the top 3 speakers I heard today, regardless of price point. I'm honestly surprised this review didn't command everyone to go out and buy a pair immediately. They sound absolutely phenomenal.

    • @user-od9iz9cv1w
      @user-od9iz9cv1w ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great to have another opinion available. Thanks. Sounds like Andrew has a winner.

    • @ganck1147
      @ganck1147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes there is another vid posted by audiophile junkie. Go see that. Even on youtube audio quality, the dynamics & transparency & hear through quality of the source point 10 absolutely shines. I cannot wait to hear a pair in person.

    • @zoroluva
      @zoroluva ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was at the show too and you are right! These things punch waaaay above their price point... I'm talking 10x their price.

    • @user-od9iz9cv1w
      @user-od9iz9cv1w ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zoroluva If/when I move from my big house to a condo in retirement, this will be my resize option. Current speakers will need to go.

    • @zoroluva
      @zoroluva ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-od9iz9cv1w what do you have right now?

  • @Skier_202
    @Skier_202 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Steve, I wish you would review even high end speakers like these with more modestly priced amps from Denon, Schiit etc. There's no way I can afford the Pass Labs stuff but I might be interested in the speakers if they paired well with cheaper amps.

    • @bryede
      @bryede ปีที่แล้ว

      This is just my take on things, but amplification hasn't changed much in the past few decades and the budget stuff is so cheaply made, so why not try them with some premium amps that you can now find affordably?

    • @mpi5850
      @mpi5850 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bryede - what are you talking about? So anything below five grand is cheap junk? Give me a break. I completely agree with DC, I’m so tired of reviewers who review moderately priced speakers with high end gear. This tells us nothing. Do that on your own time, but for the review please use similarly priced electronics.

    • @jamesschneider3828
      @jamesschneider3828 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You just missed the guys point, we might be interested in hearing them with $1500 dollar or cheaper amps. There’s great sounding amps in that price range that could make these speakers sound fantastic. Throwing more money at something isn’t always the right thing to get the job done.

    • @mrpositronia
      @mrpositronia ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it stands to reason that the outcome would be 'the same, but not quite as good'.

    • @marcgabor9690
      @marcgabor9690 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems like these are easy enough to drive that you could probably use the amps you're thinking of without any trouble. Then if you want to try more high end stuff you can only go up in terms of sound quality. FWIW Schiit Aegir seems like it would be a perfect match for these. I have a Vidar, and while it's not my main amp, I feel like I don't give up much if any sound quality compared to amps costing much more.

  • @J0N_
    @J0N_ ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’ll just give my thoughts in a list:
    •The chemistry between yourself and Andrew Jones was super fun to watch. It felt like you wanted to tease him but you controlled yourself. I hope you two continue the relationship.
    • the Bruce Katz record is a great recommendation for audio listening/enjoyment
    • you’ve made a solid point, a “bookshelf” speaker of THIS size looks better on its side when stand mounted.
    • Showcasing a viewers system of the day/week is a great idea to end your videos. We want attention as well lol.
    •Lastly, I hope you can go into more serious depth on this speaker and MOFI speakers in general in the future. Only comparing this speaker to a $6,000 speaker feels a little protective of its weaknesses. Let’s see how it compares to. Speakers in the same price range. :)

    • @HansDelbruck53
      @HansDelbruck53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The biology and the geography were interesting, too.

  • @JanPatrickLucas
    @JanPatrickLucas ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, Mr. Guttenberg, for being first! I enjoy your enthusiasm and trust your very experienced and trained ears. These are definitely something to get excited about "hear"! Definitely a conteder for purchase but I have to consider the Canadian cost with HST. Interesting enough, I'm listening to the review on AJ's Elac Adante's. These are great speakers, a killer standmount, but you must feed them hefty amplicication to make them boogie. They recieved a bad rap from some, but they are a fantastic speaker, no doubt. Cheers Steve - You do a fantastic job my friend!

  • @mikemarion2154
    @mikemarion2154 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    two of my favorite speakers when I worked a stereo shop were Tannoy and KEF 8" dual concentric with a second 8" woofer. the imaging was amazing. I bet these are nice!

  • @tomkelly8680
    @tomkelly8680 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m at the Capital Audiofest and I just met Andrew Jones and listen to his new speaker design. I thought they were fantastic. They were playing male and female vocals using the HiGi Rose integrated amp. They were not bright at all. They are large in size but worth considering if you are in the market for bookshelf speakers.

  • @thomasdix8453
    @thomasdix8453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent sounding speaker. Very impressed after hearing the speaker at CAF. AJones has a winner!

  • @scottwolf8633
    @scottwolf8633 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Steve, with your extensive vocabulary and nuanced emotions, you make living vicariously through your perceptions, so enjoyable. Thanks, not may Hi Fi shops to go to and audition the hardware anymore.

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Scott!

    • @psyborg06
      @psyborg06 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that's why we should rely on measurements and objective criteria, rather than words that are filtered through the bias of the brain.

    • @scottwolf8633
      @scottwolf8633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@psyborg06 I build my own amplification, kit based, DAC and loudspeakers. From Class A MOSFETS, and now Valve OTLs, kits. Loudspeakers based on push pull planar magnetics to Raal/Lowther/Jordan, transducer based. So, I agree with some of your premise. But the reason I built the way I did, examples, employing 375,000 uf of Capacitance in an unregulated output stage, utilizing double bypassed, smaller value, different dielectric, Caps, on the LARGE, computer grade, surplus, electrolytic, Caps, for the solid-state iterations built, and now recognized as sound Electrical Engineering, because some 40 years ago I read J Peter Moncrieff's assertion the sound would improve. Same with Nelson Pass, publishing in the Audio Amateur that the Lang Topology was the, 'Most advanced and elegant design yet published', and that included His own amp, as Nelson is/was a contributing Editor. The Lang Topology was the amp I chose to build from PC boards, no instructions, and my first foray in amplification. First Class A design too, and man what a difference. Also employed Nelson's later published advice on increasing the Current, in my case doubling it and increasing heat sink surface area, also doubled to increase power, doubled, output. No measurements, just the advice of renown, "Experts". I came to Transcendent Sound's, Valve OTLs by reading a book by Bruce Rosenblitz, who had received a patent for His work and probably read it 4 Times before I took the plunge and laid down my cash. Best investment in Hi Fi I EVER made, too!
      In '89 I was attempting to make my own ribbon transducers, but the surplus supply of really CHEAP Alnico V magnets fell through. I saw an ad in Speaker Builder, for the RD 57, a push pull, planar magnetic, designed for Boeing's Noise Analysis Lab, and being sold out of Seattle. Was on a plane, flying out of Logan, immediately, to audition them and bought them. Another great deal, as the later iteration is used by Genesis Advanced Technology, its the RD 75, as the midrange in their some, 400,000 dollar, top of the line system. I paid 1085 bucks for the pair.
      The Audio Note Kit DAC, ad was published in the Audio Amateur back at the cusp of the Millenium. It mentioned NO oversampling/up sampling, R2R, Topology, reproducing what was actually recorded, not a waveform reconstructed by a computer algorithm, guessing. I bought the kit, unheard, another killer product.
      No measurements, just hunches and then the observation/perception of only myself. Did grow up with a Baby Grand Steinway in the Home and played strings most of my life.
      So only from my own personal experience now, I do NOT rely on measurements, alone. Sometimes intuition, listening sans measurements, and the advice of, "Experts", like Steve or Michael Fremer to point me in the right direction. Remember the final arbiter in this amazing Hobby is if We, "Like", what We invest in. A totally subjective observation. Forgive my long-winded explanation, but I believe, again subjective, that We as a species are too ignorant of the phenomenon of listening to just go off of, "Objective", measurements which may or may not correlate to what We actually perceive. As We don't actually perceive Reality, We process it.

    • @psyborg06
      @psyborg06 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottwolf8633 Correct, we process reality which is why we cannot rely on subjective opinions like this video. Every word uttered is processed through his reality. Objective measurements are not subject to any individual's reality, they are simply information - that is the beauty.

    • @scottwolf8633
      @scottwolf8633 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@psyborg06 Back in the 70's the marketing departments of mostly solid-state amplification pushed the notion that THD numerical values with smaller and smaller measured values were better sounding hardware. It became absurd. With values routinely measured out to .001% THD and less. Did they sound better than hardware that had measured values of .5% THD? Nope. Why not? What they employed, was large amounts of negative feedback to achieve a measured numerical value smaller than the competition. The manufacturers used analyzer readout instead of their ears. And many, many, amps sounded worse, even though the numerical values would indicate the opposite. So, when you state, "Measurements are not subject to any individual's reality,..." I disagree completely. For if not for Human perception how do we correlate numerical values with what sounds good? I'd wager that today's manufacturers have listening sessions to compare Topological alterations for sound quality, against their baseline product. Do you know of any manufacturers who just measure their electronics and then ship them? Why not, if measurements are the unbiased arbiter?
      When I built my version of the Lang Amp, before biasing it, I turned it on and played a CD through it, just to make sure it wouldn't catch fire, or had an objectional hum. It sounded OK, but no big deal for quality. So, inserting my Multimeter, set to Ammeter with each channel's positive supply rail of the output stage, I slowly adjusted the bias Current from 0 Amps, while the CD was playing through the transition Current, 2 Amps, where operation became Class A, to my designed bias Current of 4 Amps. While passing slowly through to 2 Amps, A Class operation, the sound came into much greater holographic focus, highs became sweeter and the sound, more palpable. All this in mono, as I had to bias each channels power supply separately. The Amp had 4 PS toroid's, one for the input and driver stage/channel and one for the output stage/channel. Was there a change in the %THD? Nope. So what happened? Increasing the bias Current forced the output transistors to remain, ON, always conducting. Is there a measurement for denoting the pico to nano second Time lag between turning OFF and then turning ON the output transistors in each cycle? If not, why not? The alteration in sound quality was dramatic and those listening with me could perceive the alteration. How would We measure the change? The amp did get a hell of a lot hotter, too.
      When We realized the reason that these high negative feedback designs sounded worse, even though the measured values indicated that shouldn't be, a name was invented for the phenomenon, TIM, Transient Intermodulation Distortion. That too, then became a marketing gimmick. But We learned that strictly going by measurement was folly, even though there shouldn't be any perceptual bias. But that is not how We operate. What We measured didn't in this case, correlate to better sound.
      If you read my original post, what I stated was I enjoyed Steve's erudite wordsmith qualities and I lived vicariously through them. A totally subjective experience for sure. But so is listening to the Notes. We use measurements to help guide Us. But sometimes they betray Us. If I played a run on my guitar and hit a wrong note, you'd wince and easily hear it. Would any analyzing instrument designed to measure/detect KNOWN errors, register it? See my drift?

  • @spunkthecombo
    @spunkthecombo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a fantastic episode! I wish you had ran a subwoofer with SourcePoint 10's, a sub really enhances every speaker and changes the sound of the speaker they are used with. I been using subwoofers for the past 17 years and they make any set of speakers sound better, even full range floor standing speakers. I've always run 2 subs because any stand mount speaker that starts rolling off around 50Hz, one can locate where a single sub is. My favorite speakers are stand mount, they just disappear so easily. Thanks for what you do for us audiophiliacs!

    • @lwdp74
      @lwdp74 ปีที่แล้ว

      If this goes to 20 hz?

  • @danieloherrick6332
    @danieloherrick6332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think I have ever heard a soft / silk dome tweeter described as bright. Thanks for the review.

  • @johncassen9938
    @johncassen9938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First, I would like to express how much I enjoy your channel. I always am entertained and appreciate the effort you put into the reviews and how you convey the sound and experience of the product under review.
    I enjoyed both the interview with Andrew and your follow up review. Both were very informative.
    I do have one question. How do the point 1’s compare to the Klipsch Forte speakers. Based on your reviews of both products they have similar sensitivity and are not kind to bad recordings. However, the design approaches are very different.

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! The Forte will sound better placed closer to walls, the SourcePoint won't. Forte plays louder with greater ease, it's more dynamically alive, has bigger bass. The SourcePoint has faster. clearer bass. And the SourcePoint images better, more precisely, and has better midrange tonality.

  • @johnnyhiett
    @johnnyhiett ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good to see you listening to Dominique !!! She has 3 albums that form a timeline story and they all have audiophile sound. Her voice is like Arethas little sister. Incredible. She does have 2 backup singers as shown on TH-cam vids.

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At least with this effort a "purely analog" sticker would be appropriate 👼 .. Honestly this looks like a fantastic product. I'm drooling over the Molo Mola and combo of amps you have there. Pass + FW + LTA would be a perfect group to rotate through with just about any speaker.

    • @russellharvey7096
      @russellharvey7096 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! I hear Jones did some digital modeling in the first stages of his design, so I don't know about pure.

  • @scottbennett3119
    @scottbennett3119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Steve, great review! I recently got a chance to hear the SourcePoint 10 at Just Audio in Balt. Md. I was super impressed with the vocal and overall musical performance of these speakers. I was wondering if the softer treble response output you have gotten used to with your new reference speakers is possibly making you more sensitive to speakers with normal or average treble output? Thank you for your great reviews, looking forward to more.

  • @incognitoguitars9999
    @incognitoguitars9999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had some in my home for a few days now replacing some much more expensive speakers. The MoFi’s are really superb for the price and punch way above their weight.

  • @rianredfield5252
    @rianredfield5252 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, curious how they'd compare to any Zu models or Tekton, Monitor Audio or Paradigm of similar price points?

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm developing an issue here as I started searching for the albums you refer to for some time now. Result: Takes forever to get throught your vids.🤣🤣

  • @AudioFunHouse
    @AudioFunHouse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have these paired with an Eversolo DMP A6/ Yamaha Cds1000 SACD player going into a Gustard R26 into a Yamaha A-S2200. The sound is so powerful and just amazing!!! I’m set for a while!!! Great review sir!!!

  • @edouble0325
    @edouble0325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Steve’s love of speakers and gear but I love Steve’s love of music even more. Always learn about new artist and tracks I’d never find on my own. Thank you!

  • @matthewpaul01
    @matthewpaul01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found some great new music. Thanks for sharing along with your review!

  • @Marco-hf6rl
    @Marco-hf6rl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All that's missing from the MoFi product range now ,is an amp, and we'll be able to listen to our records on a full MoFi system.

  • @yanniskamarinos9341
    @yanniskamarinos9341 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. sir. I am glam listening to your review. I had the opportunity for a three-week listening session with SP10, in order to write a review on behalf of the Greek magazine YelloBox. I wouldn't change a single word from your text! In my case, my reference speaker is a 3-way/4-drivers floorstanding design (Audio Spectrum Hermes TLS). The fact is that SP10, with a half volume cabinet, it can produce such a bass, loosing only the lowest notes (20-35Hz) of the spectrum. I was lucky to use MoFi's stands. Have a nice day!

  • @avpro51
    @avpro51 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I find it interesting that comments criticizing the cost being too high are coming at intervals between criticisms that they are manufactured in China. What do you think the price would be if they were made in the US? My guess…double, at least. These speakers have bespoke designed parts requiring the manufacturing of specially shaped rare earth magnets, etc. Who does that in the US? Most US made speakers use foreign made components anyway, including from China.

    • @erics.4113
      @erics.4113 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Double at least, maybe even 2.5x. I don't get the made in China criticism either. They manufacture everything, so they have gotten very good at it.
      And.. people have kids in China, right? They have families to feed? Should I care more about some bloke in Kentucky feeding his family more than a family in China? Why?

    • @avpro51
      @avpro51 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had to go back and re-read my comment to realize you were agreeing with me….lol. I like your point about the universality of families needing an honest livelihood. Why indeed!

    • @PumpUptheJam81
      @PumpUptheJam81 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don’t care where a product is made. I only care if the worker who makes it is treated well and paid fairly.

    • @theoriginalcraig
      @theoriginalcraig ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zu and Magnepan are able to manufacture in the USA, and at very affordable prices, too.

    • @theoriginalcraig
      @theoriginalcraig ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And Schiit makes high quality components. Again, all in the USA. The cost savings for overseas manufacturing are drying up quickly. And the workers at most Chinese factories live there, and make very little money.
      Having said that, I'd love to hear these. I'm a HUGE fan of Andrew Jones. Spoken to him many times, and he's one of my favorite rock stars of the speaker industry.

  • @veroman007
    @veroman007 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is a lot of competition at that price point and it seems the only standout here is going to be the imaging and soundstage due to the concentric design. If its that much better than normal 2 way designs then he has a winner. $3700 gets you a lot of proven designs from other manufacturers however. Curious to hear experts compare it to the tannoy line.

  • @Ford363Stroker
    @Ford363Stroker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review. Interesting product. I love my Mofi turntable. But what I really want to say is that I love the fact that you are doing what you are passionate about and doing it very well... a life well lived and an inspiration for me. Thank you.

  • @galessi1226
    @galessi1226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always glad to hear a shout out on my favorite German Prog Rock Band...Can!!!

  • @bryede
    @bryede ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've known of several designers who moved into the high-efficiency camp over time. It seems like even though a thoroughly damped and controlled cone can give you the measurements you want, they don't deliver the experience of a light, efficient one.

    • @KingOath
      @KingOath ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe also because high sensitivity speakers are harder to get right, most often larger, more complex and more expensive. It probably takes a more experienced designer to feel comfortable going there, and one with enough pull to convince the company to fund it. Everyone wants a new challenge, they must get bored playing with traditional things and start to wonder what else they can do with all that experience

  • @knobbshots
    @knobbshots ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Bruce Katz album IS AWESOME! I would be concerned about the highs and harshness ( with not-perfect recordings) reported, but haven’t written them off after one review

  • @garyalexander5686
    @garyalexander5686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was at the Capital Audio Fest. I heard the new speakers. Generally I liked them. One thing seemed clear to me: careful attention should be paid to amplifier matching. I think these speakers border on being bright. I can think of some recordings that would be hard to take through the Source Point 10. Apart from that they’re good speakers. I think though they probably aren’t for me.

  • @ikymagoo
    @ikymagoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, great looking speakers hope to hear them at the Chicago audio show, also thanks for sharing that John Hassle album, amazing!!

  • @krsI0
    @krsI0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came for the speakers and stayed for Jon Hassel. Never heard of him...
    As a huge fan of ambient and experimental electronic music Jon Hassel ist quite a discovery for me!
    I'm sure the CD will sound great on my Elac Solanos, too.
    Thank you for that Mr. Guttenberg :-)

  • @robertcarlsson6558
    @robertcarlsson6558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the review!!
    Please, can you review Andrews other speakers. TAD RC1 would be amazing to hear your thoughts on

  • @abxaudiophiles
    @abxaudiophiles ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great review!!!! Well done sir. 🎉🎉 Always nice to see Andrew doing great stuff and keeping the industry alive and moving.
    PS- Steve, have a GREAT day buddy.

  • @alanshayler941
    @alanshayler941 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So what I'm taking away from this is he has made speakers that are too good 😉 it's nice to hear your genuine opinion of that these are too good for most (Joe public) recordings as these will definitely show every flaw in the recording (which is a good thing most of the time)

  • @drunkenskelator
    @drunkenskelator ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got a chance to hear them as well at this year's Capital Audio Fest and I agree with RL's comments! For their price they hit waaay above their weight. For most budgets $3700 is a lot of money but relative to the price of speakers that they compete with these are a bargain!

  • @LillyAugusta
    @LillyAugusta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Steve! I am not 100% sure, but it seems to me that you didn't review SourcePoint 8. I was the other day on a smaller Hi-Fi Show in my city. It was 16 rooms and pretty decent, big-name setups. And I was so captivated by SourcePoint 8. It was my star on the Show without knowing whose speakers they were. I said it: I have to have these! So, hopefully, my next purchase will be, better sooner than later :).They are stunning!!! If you happen to see this comment, would you kindly give me a thumbs up or down if it would be a good pairing with Denon PMA 1700MNE? Since I bought it after I saw your excitement...and I have to say, for the second time...Denon is amazing! :) Cheers!

  • @thomaswachter7782
    @thomaswachter7782 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If misses audiopheliac loves the same recordings that you do, you have a winner on your hands. 😊

  • @rosswarren436
    @rosswarren436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those custom stands for the Zu Dirty Weekend in the Viewer System of the Day were very nice! And a great idea.

  • @jaytejera1164
    @jaytejera1164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Given appropriate amplification, what is the right size room for these speakers?

  • @rickc661
    @rickc661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    looks really really good - like early 1970 models.... of course I haven't heard it but ANY speaker set costing near $4000. has to be real , real good.

  • @jamesgreer7436
    @jamesgreer7436 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These would look fantasic turned on the side while sitting on Bose 901 Tulip stands. It would complete their mid-century modern look.

  • @DannerPlace
    @DannerPlace ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting, would love to listen to these in person.

  • @petekutheis3822
    @petekutheis3822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes I have the mofi room that had this speaker in my top 5 rooms easily.

  • @focalfan6324
    @focalfan6324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Steve. I really love the AVSOTD, as well as the music selection part (the shirts, that goes without saying).

  • @LeonFleisherFan
    @LeonFleisherFan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most promising design I've seen in years, simplistic on the surface, but if well-done may be spectacular. Another speaker where I'd be curious to know how well it pairs with your 2.3 Watt Decware?

  • @DanielHog13
    @DanielHog13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a long time fan, owner (3 spkr sets over ~14 yrs) & referrer (to clients) of Andy's various brand efforts for nearly two decades, what was interesting to ME this week, was learning the resale price of this inaugural set from MoFi / Music Direct of $3,700.00! After viewing Steve's + a few other YT vids and reading up a little on the design without knowing the MSRP, I didn't initially expect a high $3Ks range primarily due to his long history of low $ entry with a new product and/or brand design, for the most part. What $ did I expect?? Maybe $1,750; but again I was admittedly basing a guess on past entry to market reveals by Andy.
    Will be interesting to test the sound in 2023.

  • @neilanderson5177
    @neilanderson5177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a check on the expected price for the UK. They’re going to be £4500 for the speakers and another £500 for the matching stands!

  • @dhanukanikhil
    @dhanukanikhil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Steve, heard the album Nameless by Dominique Fils-Aimė on my recently purchased stereo system, absolutely loved it. Just one request, it will be really nice if you could list your music suggestions in the description. I loose the track of them by the end of your videos especially when there are multiple records and I keep scrolling back to those parts of the video 😁 Love your channel. Great work. Thanks

  • @abxaudiophiles
    @abxaudiophiles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PS- I absolutely LOVED the Interview, into Review format!! It kept us excited and wanting more. After watching the interview, I couldn’t wait for the review. I woke up at 5:30am just to watch it!!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍

  • @jonuiuc
    @jonuiuc ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A more affordable alternative to the tannoy and fyne 10" bookshelves. Interesting.

  • @chrispicquet733
    @chrispicquet733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting! I have been using full range drivers for a while. One of the best is the old school Electrovoice SP 12 ( circa 1958) crime frame Alnico Magnat drivers!

  • @richh650
    @richh650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for reviewing these Steve!

  • @thirdkey9
    @thirdkey9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The jam journey & soundstage on that CAN 76’ Live album was a nice long trip and perfect to test out on some new speakers. Fascinated by Jone’s share on the creation and how it made him feel in the end. Such a passion for the art & science and what an aesthetically beautiful speaker to boot. A great double header Steve. Thanks!

  • @ganck1147
    @ganck1147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Bruce Katz band album must be heard on LP. Sounds far more transparent & open on LP then on CD. I was totally floored when i heard the LP, especially the drum solo of track 2 towards the end of the track. To say its awesome is a gross understatement!

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the LP, and I agree.

    • @LeonFleisherFan
      @LeonFleisherFan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac But the CD is still worth owning?

    • @ganck1147
      @ganck1147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LeonFleisherFan the CD is ok. Just don’t compare it to LP.

  • @mrpositronia
    @mrpositronia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Steve. Great review as always!

  • @peterborelli3877
    @peterborelli3877 ปีที่แล้ว

    But at the end of the day, despite the precision and clarity of the Sourcepoint 10 your reference speaker remains the Pure Audio Duet 15.
    Am I right in assuming that this is due to the fact that the Duet 15 offers that huge soundstage?

  • @nickburak7518
    @nickburak7518 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Mr. Gutenberg! I concur with R L. I'm surprised, given what several reviewers have been saying, that this review didn't show that these were any more special than any other speaker reviewed. Something feels off. Perhaps the difference is, as the Audiophile Junkie pointed out, that Andrew Jones provided a carefully-curated scripted demo to show off the best of that speaker in that hotel room. Perhaps the speaker isn't as great as it was marketetd. That's why multiple expert view points are sometimes what's needed... And this wasn't the first "meh" review.

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which do you prefer for imaging/ soundstage? Vandy 2ce or SP10? Or Zu/PAP for that matter.

  • @kozmiczian
    @kozmiczian ปีที่แล้ว

    In ref to your ref speakers, aren't open baffle (no enclosure) speakers borrowing from Amar Boses' 'Direct Reflecting' designs from 1968, and open screens, like Magnapan. Different approaches to the use of reflected energy to create a huge soundfield . . . interesting. 🤔

  • @MrBonger88
    @MrBonger88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve, when you say low to medium volume levels what would that be db wise for you? Also, what db level do you consider loud? Thanks

  • @jeb419
    @jeb419 ปีที่แล้ว

    This review sounds on par with what I’ve heard in various coaxial speakers I’ve had (various Altec 604, Various tannoy, various Fostex ribbon tweeter coaxials) Amazing imaging, but they never sound as large of a soundstage as I’d like. I don’t seem to miss anything when I listen to them but comparing side by side with a larger speaker I then see what I’m missing.

  • @jedknutson8373
    @jedknutson8373 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and a 1yr warranty to boot...man so generous...3700/pr you guys are nuts..

  • @chrispicquet733
    @chrispicquet733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also,I have 10",8"6.5"5.25"dual concentric drivers as well.i love them.

  • @marcgabor9690
    @marcgabor9690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want a pair! Seems like I could easily swap out my Heresy II's for these. Could drive them with my 20w/40w (triode/ultra linear) tube integrated (which would sweeten up the overall sound), big enough to be punchy, small enough that they work in a small/medium size living room, add a small REL sub or two. I would love to hear the difference. Maybe one day when I've got $4k burning a hole in my pocket..

  • @aussie_philosopher8079
    @aussie_philosopher8079 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concentric design is great, also the speaker baffle has a shape that would limit defusion

  • @brucen6117
    @brucen6117 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very polite negative review imo. Bright treble, in particular, translates to "look elsewhere." Steve, I thank you for an honest review when so many reviewers have switched to shameless promotions.

  • @jeffkalina7727
    @jeffkalina7727 ปีที่แล้ว

    Careful AJ is going to start sending his gear to the Mrs. I wonder how the Source Point would sound with a tubey amp? Wilsenton or?
    Apparently the HiFiRose pairing at CAF is not so great. I love dual concentric sound. Wondering if this one got rushed a bit? AJ will fix it soon enough.

  • @sidesup8286
    @sidesup8286 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would you rather have? 30 some Mofi records which would cost around the price of these near $4,000 speakers or the speakers?

  • @franciscocunhaetavora9132
    @franciscocunhaetavora9132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone needs to do a head-to-head with the Tannoy Eaton!

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a really cool design. I wish I could hear them.

  • @varungk3388
    @varungk3388 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrew Jones is the man to rehabilitate Mo-Fi's name 👍

  • @barrybrennan2135
    @barrybrennan2135 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Steve, how about placement with these speakers? Obviously free space is gnerally best and these have rear ports x 2, but they play well in smaller places?

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Here’s the thing, all speakers of this range, with ports in the front or the rear need to be placed away from walls to produce the best sound. People get really hung up on the rear port versus front port question. It’s not that big a deal. I didn’t spell it out but the speaker should be placed at least 2 feet from the wall for best sound. Of course, you can also get good results from one foot away! It’s the sort of difference you have to experiment with and determine for yoursel in your room.

    • @barrybrennan2135
      @barrybrennan2135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Cheers Steve. Unfortunately most likely not suitable for my living situation.

    • @MikeK6046
      @MikeK6046 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barrybrennan2135 ditto

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 ปีที่แล้ว

    O found a vid you did on vinyl recordings. Searched your channel and nothing about the old Directs to Disc pressings. The were amazing back then

  • @gregoryfrassetti1276
    @gregoryfrassetti1276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those are the biggest LS5/A... I mean Tannoy... I mean Fyne... Wait what? THEE Andrew Jones made those? Niiccee

  • @connorduke4619
    @connorduke4619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review. A good comparison would be with the Dynaudio 20i.

  • @martinjandijkstra3205
    @martinjandijkstra3205 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am wondering if that critical high frequency experience is related to a rising frequency or some other non linear behaviour in the high frequencies. Is there a frequency plot?

  • @teacherchris9423
    @teacherchris9423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not compare them to the LS3 Meta’s? That seems like a more logical match…jus’sayin’…other than that, they look incredible, and I’m sure sound it, as well…

  • @goodboid
    @goodboid ปีที่แล้ว

    You have reviewed the JBL 4429, how does this speaker compare?

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was a long time ago, I can’t do mental comparisons over many years, but I can say the source point imaging is way ahead of any JBL I’ve heard.

  • @CosmicKnight1
    @CosmicKnight1 ปีที่แล้ว

    MoFi’s at CAF, fingers crossed these will be there!

  • @andypomeroy7447
    @andypomeroy7447 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you compare these to the Klipsch Heresy IV, as the price point is about the same?

  • @mrgiggles7840
    @mrgiggles7840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve would you pick these or a set of Magnepan 3.7 for a little more ?

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, if the room is a lot bigger, and you can give the Magnepan enough space, and a high current, high quality amplifier, the Magnepan would be my choice. But if the room is small, and you can have the speaker at least 3 feet from the wall, and don’t have a high current high-quality amplifier. The Andrew Jones speaker would be the choice.

    • @mrgiggles7840
      @mrgiggles7840 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the reply

  • @meesmo4
    @meesmo4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only 42hz? Seems like people are easily satisfied these days. For the size and format, one can get a vintage Acoustic Research bookshelves that will greatly outdo this in dynamics, while still keeping the dome tweeter sound, in a true 3 way format. Seems like the hifi industry is just going around in circles chasing the flavor of the week.

  • @twiiii1
    @twiiii1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I want to know is how does the MOfi compare to Cornwall IV. Oh! would you add a subwoofer?

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cornwall more dynamic, makes more, punchier bass, plays louder with ease. SourcePoint 10 images better, more coherent, cleaner bass. More naturall mids, and will work better in smaller rooms than the Cornwall.

  • @xstensl8823
    @xstensl8823 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Steve
    a 5 incher would be nice for smaller rooms like us hotel dwellers.

  • @scottbernard8824
    @scottbernard8824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mounted horizontally, it looks like the Bose 901!

  • @dan-qe1tb
    @dan-qe1tb ปีที่แล้ว

    Think I just might.. wait for a pair! This would probably be a better bet than the the Zu Audio speakers I have been looking at, which people say, are, revealing, but "too lively!": that's what I don't like about my current Martin Logans. I do think that point sources matter. You can get better near field listening and a less smeared soundstage and imaging if you have a time aligned crossover, and as few drivers as you can.

  • @stephencharlton2024
    @stephencharlton2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as always

  • @DC-xx4kv
    @DC-xx4kv ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Steve, since this is a MoFi speaker, does it only play digital sourced music?

    • @dihydrotestosterone
      @dihydrotestosterone ปีที่แล้ว

      Smart aleck...😅🤣😂

    • @edd2771
      @edd2771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it plays what it says is analogue music

    • @DC-xx4kv
      @DC-xx4kv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edd2771 🤔

  • @qhomesystems
    @qhomesystems ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder Steve what you think of Jays Audio Lab's comments on this speaker?

  • @Saboda53
    @Saboda53 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, wondering how this compares to the Hsu CCB-8? Seems similar in design.

  • @ronpenrose3557
    @ronpenrose3557 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Steve I Like your channel as I watched your video I was thanking how much better your video would look in 4 k.

  • @codychavarria6088
    @codychavarria6088 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyway you can do a special 40th thriller anniversary mofi vinyl or CD review

  • @scaryperson27
    @scaryperson27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bass in Dominique's album has some serious bottom. Good review!