www.youtube.com/@nyvoreviews5443 Is a friend who generally has pretty good takes, Bose also have laughable quality in the audiophile sphere. Dankpods has awful preference to headphones, where you start to question his ability to hear. Crinacle is hell bent on sucking off Frequency Response graphs instead of ability to resolve detail, often marking down bad resolving iems as exceptional.
I seem to remember reading that Beats added small internal weights to their headphones to make them seem more substantial and therefore better than a lightweight pair of headphones. Maybe other companies do so as well.
We looked into this after reading a similar comment and it's true, these headphones cost _significantly_ less to produce than they're sold for so it makes sense. Here's the article we found on the subject www.cnet.com/culture/the-four-bits-of-metal-that-make-beats-headphones-feel-less-flimsy/#:~:text=However%2C%20a%20new%20teardown%20of,to%20make%20them%20feel%20heavier.
Yeah I remember hearing the same thing! I’ve invested in a pair of Nura headphones which use otoacoustics to optimise the sound for your individual hearing profile and they are amazing
As a nerdy audiophile, let me clarify a few things. Beats headphones are indeed poorly constructed, too bassy, and don't even attempt to be properly resolving at certain frequencies ; and they are more fashion statements than good audio equipment, all of this is true. But to give credit where it's due, Beats did make something incredible, their recommendation and discovery algorithm for Beats Music. And this is the real reason Apple bought them, killing Beats Music shortly after the acquisition to launch Apple Music. Beats headphones have mostly been relagated to the active and sportsgear side of the audio market as Apple has its own audio products to sell. Also, and arguably more importantly for me, I take issue with your recommendations for alternatives to Beats headphones. No audiophile in their right mind would recommend Bose, with their lackluster quality for the price, and long history of deceitful/manipulative marketing and patent abuse. Your other (sponsored) recommendation rubs me especially the wrong way since AIAIAI, while looking sharper and more consumer-friendly than Beats, employs alot of the same marketing tactics, using online creators and sustainabilty claims instead of music celebrities and athletes. Especially when sound-wise, their headphones have a bassy, very coloured sound signature, and only their latest S05 driver is close to worth its asking price. And while the modular aspect sounds consumer friendly, only they sell the parts, and no company is eternal. Frankly, I'd rather recommend something like the Sennheiser HD25 if you want something compartively cheap, that sounds significantly better and is as close to indestrcutible as it gets. Because while it's not modular or made from recycled plastics, DJs have been abusing those since the 80s and keep coming back for more.
Agree with this. Besides, more popular headphones are very likely to be modular to some degree anyway. I know I just replaced the earpads, cables, and meshes of my Sennheiser HD 599-all purchased online.
Sennhieser isn't producing at the quality they did in the 80's. I've had 2 and neither one lasted for more than a year. Although I have to say that the sound quality is great, and they're pretty comfortable. I'm not impressed with the longevity.
As a proud owner of HD 25, I couldn't agree more. I recommend getting the pro version even though it's pricier but you do get better cable and extra ear pads. I have mine for about 6 years now, carry it in my bag every single day, and it's still going strong. Also it does a fantastic job blocking noise and arguably works just as well on a plane.
I worked in the Apple Genius Bar when Apple bought Beats. The headphones were of notoriously poor quality. The band that goes over the head would break, or the cushioning part of the headphones would separate from the casing. Eventually the quality did improve, but then (as you mentioned) they were no longer cool, and sales declined.
We've also seen reports online of the pleather cushioning degrading over time or the plastic chipping easily. THIS is why its important to do research on products beforehand since a high pricetag does not always equal quality... 🤦♂🤷♂
I got one for free, and after a year and a half, the hinge broke :( But I have to say, headphones have no doubt became cool after beats came into the scene. Just like at Sony XM5. AirPods Max. Bose 700. There is no doubt that not only do they sound good, they’re actually nice looking!
@@cabbage-soup mine peel due to me wearing glasses 🤓 But then, Sony and Bose also used pleather, which is why I avoid those as well. But those are still a wayyyy better deal than Bose, for sure.
Like honestly, it’s rare for me to find a product so bad that it offends me. Beats by Dre is one of those products. Disgusting trash sound, the bass sound like someone is taking a huuuuuuge shit into your ears and the treble is so screechy that it feels ;ike it’s cutting into your brain. Just arghhh…. The amount of hate I have for them things is unreal.
To be honest, the audiophiles i know would just as well frown at Bose, they are also far from the best sound quality with their headphones, but have a similar fashion appeal to white collars as Beats had to the pop/hiphop community.
Glad to see a comment I can agree with. Hifiman Edition XS, Verum 1/2/3 and Audio Technica r70x, is where the value picks are. For sustainability: Koss ain't gonna be bad with their lifetime warranty policy. Audio technica's repair program is pretty easy to use too. Hifiman is the only sketchy returns and I've never heard good things.
@@4kirb I've RMA'd my sundaras and it was a mixed bag, when I initially got them the left driver made a rattle so I had to send them away to the New York repair place. I had to pay for shipping because Im not based in the US but if you are they apparently provide a prepaid shipping label. After the headphones arrived they sent me a new pair, however, when the new pair arrived the right driver was DOA. I emailed them about it again and they got me to send that pair back and they sent me a third pair. I've had these ones for about two years now and they've been good so far 🤞 so take that how you will. I just wanted to share my experience.
My Beats deteriorated very quickly within 12 months of owning them - I replaced them with Bang and Olufsen 12 months ago and they are significantly superior in sound quality and durability. The Beats were $AUD399 and the B&O were $AUD599 on sale. Worth it in my opinion.
Bose headphones also have easily replaceable parts. I've had a pair for well over 10 years. I've replaced the cable and the ear pads a couple of times and they're good as new!
During my college years of 2010-2013 Beats were massively popular. But I work at best Buy and got an amazing employee discount, so it helped to get me a couple of different models. I really enjoyed my Beats Detox. I listen to hip hop/techno/house/rap, so the headphones perfectly matched my listening style. The only issue I had was weight - they were heavy! And over time, I didn't want to use them due to neck and head fatigue. I still have them, but due to a wireless world, I have no use for them but to collect dust, until I go on an airplane to plug in and watch a movie.
They actually add weights to the heaphones to make them seem heavier and therefore better quality, that's why they're so heavy! If you were willing to take them apart you could probably remove the weights.
@@rexfoxoloughlin6033 The Beats Pro are literally made out of aluminum. You can see it on the outside. That's where the weight on those come from. As someone who was taking them apart as well, I can assure you there's no artificial way to these as with some of the other models
I think the true impact beats and later apple had on the headphone industry was just how normalized it got to spend more than 50 dollars on headphones, Yes many people will still be perfectly happy with their budget no name brand bluetooth headphones but far more people now will be rocking 150 - 350 dollar headphones like airpods of all flavors sony wh-1000xm4's etc than you ever would have seen 8 years ago.
Totally agree on this, a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't be dishing out 100's of $ on headphones started to do so because of the Beats trend. Kinda shaped the industry as we know it 🤷♂
Check out WYZE! I got their ANC headphone and they are pretty great and have a nice solid build for like $60! They've expanded to more than just webcams now... lol
@@FutureProofTV I think it’s more that beats opened the idea of having a nice pair of headphones to more people and then they realized that beats weren’t good. Nowadays I see tons of people at my gym with Sony XM4’s far more than I would expect would class themselves as an audiophile but if there’s a piece of tech that you use daily and very extensively then why not spend a few hundred bucks
are there bluetooth headphones for less than 50$? ive never gotten any but they all look so expensive to me, i thought it was bc bluetooth itself was expensive
I did record once at a fairly well known studio that specialized in a niche genre and the producer used beats as the vocal reference headphones. The reason, they said, was because the added bass made the vocalist feel like they sounded a little better than they actually are so they weren't as shy about singing. idk how true or useful that is, but at least there's someone using them for something professional.
I remember in 2014 when I wanted a pair so badly and finally gave them a listen, only to find that they sounded like my razer headphones. If you and more bang for buck, just wait for any of the senheiser 600s family to go on sale (which is quite often).
I had a pair of beats when I was younger and at the time thought expensive meant good sound quality. Crazy now to think how wrong I was about that. I recently invested in a pair of nicer B&O headphones and have not looked back since
I run Sennheiser x Massdrop 58x. Simple, wired, openback headphones that sound great imo. Something understated is the ability to clean and maintain the padding. Headband and earpads are all removable which makes them easy to clean and replace in the future when they get squished down
I'm rocking my Sennheisers right now too - had them for years, they're comfy to wear with glasses for long periods of time, and they sound great. Now I'm curious if mine come apart - my ear pads are getting a bit sad looking. Will look into that for sure!
As a note, those buds were cheap thrown ins but they instantly communicated that the person was listening to an iPod or iPhone. So when Apple released the Airpods, they retained a lot of the visuals that were iconic with iPhones so they stayed instantly recognisable. Between these two visually distinct brands, Apple have a nearly 50% market share of headphones in Australia (I haven’t done the research for anywhere else). Contagious by Jonah Berger goes into more detail on this and lines up well with what you’ve put into your video. Definitely well researched.
Apple's dumb wired EarPods hit the diffuse field target better than most studio headphones do while only costing 18€. They're punching way waaay above their weight class as far as technical audio quality goes.
The great thing about those cheap earbuds is that they signaled to everybody around them that they're probably hearing impaired and you can probably talk about them without them being able to hear what you're saying.
@@dfcx1 They also made a significant portion of young people hearing impaired because they didn't ever fit right and you had to crank up the volume if you wanted to hear what was being played.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Correct, hard earbuds aren't going to fit all ears, particularly small young people ears. I found them all categorically unusable when I was a kid. Noise exposure is going to catch a lot of people off guard since you don't know how loud is too loud until it's too late. This was a thing with Walkmen and the like decades before EarPods existed though, so I think it's wrong to blame any particular headphone model instead of noisy listening environments and bad usage habits.
I think it was Marques Brownlee who made a video about Beats, and his point was that Apple bought out beats and then intentionally killed them off to make space in the market for AirPods
I'm not a complete audiophile but I wholeheartedly believe in good sound. Tinnitus scares the crap out of me so I'm kind of paranoid these days about turning my music up. I just want crisp, clear and clean everything. Bass. Treble. All of it. Sennheiser has always done that for me. To me those sound amazing and they dont break the bank because you're not going all hype beast.
LOL, to use Bose as an example of "good sounding headphones" is funny. Mostly because Bose is notorious for being overly bass heavy, with some heights and almost no mids. Sony would have been a better comparision.
Yeah, when he said Bose I remembered the old maxim on audiophile foruns. "Better Off with another Sound Equipment" But still, it seems that the Bose's professional line is adored, specially by pilots, but those are different qualities from sound quality.
@@herrerasauro7429 I have worn them in a small plane once, for voice communcation they're awesome, so is the sound insulation. But what's good for voice does not make a good sounding headphone for music listening. Though their ANC is pretty good.
You're right, we should've done a range of examples and included Sony and other popular brands that a lot of audiophiles would go for. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@FutureProofTV It's not so much Audiophile, I just found it funny that you mentioned how bass heavy Beats are and then pick another brand that is known for exactly the same thing. In the end how good headphones or speakers sound is a personal preference. I recently picked up some Focal Bathy's and they are the first wireless headphones that I would say can compete with my wired over ears, but at a price.
Oh bloody hell, why'd you have to mention Sony ? Their flagship headphone line, the WH-1000XM series, is basically old school beats sound-wise, except with top of the class noise cancelling. The XM4 are +5dB between 1 and 200 Hz compared to the Bose QC35. That's a pretty big difference in the bass region. I have them, they're great for commuting, the noise cancelling improvements made by Bose and Sony over older tech really changed noise cancelling from a gimmick to a nearly compulsory feature for commuting. But calling them better than Bose is serious pot calling kettle black.
Just looked into this and it looks like they did! You can read up more on this here: www.cnet.com/culture/the-four-bits-of-metal-that-make-beats-headphones-feel-less-flimsy/#:~:text=However%2C%20a%20new%20teardown%20of,to%20make%20them%20feel%20heavier.
I recently got some Samson SR850C (thanks to Dankpods!) over-ear, open-back headphones for $35 from B&H Photo in New York. I’m no audiophile but… they sound A-MAZING! They are the most lightweight, comfortable and best sounding cans I’ve owned. Sure they’re wired but I plan on getting a portable DAC to add Bluetooth support later and, since I still listen to most of my music on my 5th gen. iPod or my Android phone with headphone jack, I’m good. When I first got them, I had been using the iPod’s EQ settings with my cheap earbuds but I discovered that, with the Samsons, turning off the EQ made the music sound better! This is easily one of the best price-for-performance purchases I’ve ever made.
I rather not waste my phone battery and usage in music alone in case of emergency and instead have a sperate device dedicated to a music playlist. Oh well.
I will say in Beats favor, their Powerbeat pro design has been a life saver for me. As someone who has really small ears, they are the only pair of earbuds I've ever found that fit me and are great for sports, especially climbing.
I got a free pair in 2017 & they’re still working, though I did replace the ear cushions myself. They are now my designated “cleaning headphones” since they’re Bluetooth & I don’t care if they get damaged while I clean the shower or mow the lawn.
I can never understand how people will pay over $100 for headphones. The most I'd pay pay for headphones is $30 and even that is pushing it. But then again I'm poor. I'd rather pay bills and have food
Beats made me want cans for sure, I was okay with my $10 panasonic earbuds. But at $300+, I started investigating competitors' brands. In the end and after literal years, I first got the Sony CH-700 on sale and finally got XM4s a couple years ago. So thank you, Beats, for peaking my interest in the high fidelity audio game. Music sounds so good on the XM4s
Wouldn’t call xm4s high fidelity. I mean they sound decent for consumer headphones and I’m glad I have them for convenience but they are NOT balanced in the slightest. My $50 audio technicias sound better than either my xm4s or QC 35 ii
Being nearly 40 years old, I grew up with Sony and I still love them to this day. In fact I am wearing a pair of Sony WH-1000XM4’s…Sennheiser is also a phenomenal brand but the one issue I’ve seen and had with them is their somewhat subpar quality control.
You guys should dig a little more into the history. The first beats headphones were actually developed by monster and their music tech in collaboration with dr.dre and Iovine. Dre and Iovine got the beats brand by drawing up sneaky music industry contracts that the guys running monster wasn't familiar with. If you look back at monster headphones they've had some amazing sets before their ultimate demise. The monster turbine copper pros for one.
Monster's history is a bit shady, selling expensive HDMI cables, when cheap ones have the same quality. - A digital signal is either off or on. You can improve upon it.
This video seriously lacked research. He said earpods were introduced in 2001-they were not. Said Bose has a fanbase of audiophiles. I love my Bose and am not an audiophile and am still insulted on their behalf
i have three, yes three! paiurs of the monster clarity on ear headphones. they are AMAZING. best gym headphones i've ever had. they fit my ears perfeclty, have great sound and easy to clean.
Really good video! I remember people wearing beats at school and I wanted to be part of that so bad but they were so expensive. I had to buy a second hand pair from one of the popular kids at school and that was still $200. I shot a Music video with my cousin, he had a small following for his music and I wore my beats to the video shoot. Making it part of my whole identity as I recorded my scenes with the gorgeous lady I was paired with for our scenes. I eventually sold them off for like $150 or something and I found headphones for $20-$50 that are way better quality than Beats. If you buy them now, it’s because you like the wireless and easy use but airpods are also in the same boat where they’re expensive because of brand.
I wanted some Beats just to look cool and they were on sale during the holiday season but when I went to the Apple Store to try them on they kept pulling my hair. It turned to a hard no for me :/
I have a pair of Beats that my husband bought me, and use them daily. They're not great (I'm too cheap to buy anything new until these wear out), and they pull out my hair ALL THE DAMN TIME!
The comparison between in-ear and over-ear audio is less straightforward than your statement that full-size headphones are obviously better. IEMs and headphones are subject to different constraints and opportunities. They offer two different approaches to producing good sound.
Not to mention that IEM's are used heavily in the professional world - you just need to purchase quality ones. Comparing a decent pair of headphones that are a few hundred dollars to $20 "we only pay $0.07 to have them made" Apple ear buds does a huge disservice to the studio quality in ear monitors.
Honestly the one “Beats” product I own is my Powerbeats Pro as they would stay on my ears as I exercised and were the most comfortable compared to other alternatives I tried. If I were to aim for pure listening, I’d aim for something better.
I'm on my second pair of Bose noise cancelling headphones in probably 20 years. I'm a big fan because they work for my needs, but I'm also probably older than your average viewer so my needs/wants are different.
. . . . wait, what was innovative about "earpods" in 2001 (not what they were called, they didn't have a name)? They were just earbuds, the same that had been around for a very long time. The only reasons the "earpods" became much of a thing at the time was because Ipods took off, so by default there was a lot of the Apple earbuds around for no other reason than they came with something that was selling a lot.
Every few years, for decades now, there has been some sort of portable electronic device / status symbol that comes out that is easily lost, stolen, or broken. I never paid much attention to Beats because I just figured that was the latest iteration of that particular consumer trap.
i will say, i have a pair of studio 3s i got for the gym, used but in amazing shape for $150. being i have them for the gym, i don’t mind the heavy bass. and with apple having bought them and me using and iphone, it makes the user exit that much better than some other products. plus, they are comfy and the noises cancelling is solid. i know they aren’t amazing sound quality but for me they work really well. they serve a specific purpose and do it well, well enough to where if they broke today i would go buy another pair right now
Having worked for Beats during the Apple acquisition, seriously this video is kinda garbage. Number one, teardowns don’t take into account parts binning for lower variance, tooling, firmware engineering, labor etc, making the cost breakdowns listed worthless. Secondly, most of the cost breakdowns were on the Monster era stuff, which was much lower quality. Thirdly, people love to rave about the AirPods while trashing Beats, even though the engineering behind them is largely the same. And lastly, AiAiAi…..not even gonna go there. I’m glad you like them, but really dude, it kind of shows how little you know. AiAiAi has always been a fashion first brand. Anyway, welcome to 2013 TH-cam clickbait, glad you could make it.
For instance I like the Sennheiser HD-25 for this. Yes you know them, you saw them for sure, they're on the market since 1988 and probably every sound tech guys used them. You can still buy parts if you broke it. I like that mentality. Proof that if you make a good, solid and well price, it will sell by itself.
I was about to say the same - I’ve been using my Sennheiser ear buds for over 10years, and they still sound superb, and work great - so why change them?
I bring my dt770 everywhere I go. It's my favorite. My backup is a Sony xb900n that I got when I wasn't an audiophile yet but they introduced me to the beyerdynamics.
I remember working at frys when the first beats came out, seeing how much they were marked up, laughing, and then buying my first pair of audiotechnicas. Good times. I should have bought a bunch and sold them on Craigslist, but alas, I am as dumb as rocks.
Back in 2013, I tried my friend's Beats headphone. At that time, I realized bass is their main focus... And sometimes it's bloated and burry the detail of the music if the music already have too much bass. And, since I love experimenting, I started using EQ, knows the basic and eventually makes my 15$ chinese headphone sounds decent and more balanced than his Beats. Slowly, I realized Beats was overpriced. Now, I'm using handmade, DIY 100$ headphone, which is very simple, all metal frame, and have insane flexibility at EQing so I can theoretically shape my headphone sounds to mimic any other headphones. Except for detail and soundstage but it's virtually have no competitor (at least for my taste) untill I reach 300$ bracket (I mean Hifiman or Sennheiser standard). Same goes for my DIY IEM. For today's taste. I see people would prefer minimalistic with functionality. And with IEM technologies, people would prefer IEM: small, compact, and do their jobs. And with more audiophile contenys on TH-cam, more people nowadays have more awareness about sound quality. With this, Beats headphone becomes another overpriced-hypebeast headphone. For those who interested in audiophile worls, Crinacle channel and website is a good start. Also my personal favourites is Gizaudio for Timmies's casual and humble persona and Dankpods for good laugh. But remember the moral story from Beats: trust your own ear and on what you needs, don't push yourself to get hyped things and do your research and comparison before buying.
Personally I like the Audio Technica ATH-M50x with a headphone amp myself. It's not portable but they sound really good just using them at home. Every Bose item I've ever had broke or fell apart. Not a Bose fan.
Sennheiser PXC 550-II all day, every day! Good all-around sound, fantastic quality, and fair price. I’m not an audiophile, but I do like the sound of great Jazz, R&B, and Classic Rock coming through my headphones.
Had a sad little chuckle that being able to replace parts in and repair something has become a selling point/something that makes a product stand out from the crowd now. I've been running the same set of Sennheiser HD595s since 2005. Have replaced plenty of earpads, the cable twice, and one set of drivers, but it all came apart and went back together easily because... that's just kinda how they were built.
Oh no! You poked the audiophile hornets nest! Some one is gonna lay out the old "no highs, no lows, must be Bose", lol. I have never even tried on a pair of Beats, I am not their target demo, 50, NOT a hip-hop fan, and have no interest in fashion trends. I do have a Sony Bluetooth noise canceling headset that I wear while traveling, and around the house, they are a life saver. I have had them for almost 4 years, they look like new, they sound great (not an audiophile, decades of working around turbine engines has cost me a few frequencies, lol) and when the kids are screaming on the airplane, I am drifting off to sleep listening to Pink Floyd, or the Odyssey.
I used apple earbuds as my daily listening/ gaming device for my PC because I hate wearing a headset. You can't beat how simple and affordable these are.
they're basically useless outside of the Apple ecosystem. I got a pair for free when I bought my iPad from a friend and they were so inconvenient to try and use on my android, windows laptop, and even my switch that I just sold them at a loss a while later. Went and got some no-name earbuds off Amazon that work WAY better and sound better at like less than half the cost.
@@quanticflowersThis is because apple uses their own headphone jack so you can't use the microphone or volume control on your Apple Earpods on Android.😂
earpods are great dude, good sound simple design, I'd take that over any gaming headset in sub100 dollars but airpods nah... good until its battery is cooked.
I have a bunch of studio-and-otherwise headphones but I keep going back to my 20-year-old Sony MDR-CD780s. I've had to repair them several times because I don't like any of the current production headphones I could get as replacements as much. Being worth repairing is a pretty great longevity feature.
If a product is promoted ad nauseam by celebrities, more was probably spent on marketing than the actual product. I am no audiophile and can't justify spending thousands on enthusiast grade equipment. I have found Sony products often a good balance between quality and price. Bose are okay but I don't see them as any better than Sony. So much of audio equipment is subjective though depending on what sort of sound balance you like
Yes, celebrities, despite being rich beyond belief, are the cheapest people on planet Earth, and won't wear or promote anything unless a company pays them to wear it. And then those same celebrities get mad at their fans when they don't promote it for free, or they feel they aren't doing a good enough job giving them free promotion. Or they didn't spend enough money on them.
@@joeybaseball7352 lol totally. I've never understood the celebrity worship culture in this country 🤣 and it's so often mired in hypocrisy. They present themselves as allies of the people when they couldn't be more out of touch with reality. There are a few well grounded ones but those are the exception.
When it comes to consumer grade equipment with good features, Sony and Bose are a little pricey, but pretty good. Say what you will about AirPods Max price, but their build quality obliterates Sony and Bose though (I don’t have a pair but bought one for my mother and she loves them)
I use my skullcandy cassette everyday. It's cheap, durable, good battery life and good sound quality. It's good for outdoor use. When it comes to my home.. That's whole different story when it comes to audio.
I REALLY like my $$$ Bose wireless noice-cancelling headphones. I’m a college student living next to a very inconsiderate piano teacher along with all the crazy noice I have to deal with… I am able to focus and do my work. I still use my old-school corded Apple ear pods when out and about, but my Bose I use at home. I can cook and clean and do what I need to while still listening to lecture… and it cancels the horrific piano practice noise. BTW my Fiat 500x has a Beats stereo system. It rocks. Lol
Noise cancelling headphones don't work that way. That is noise isolation, not cancellation. Noise cancellation cancels constant steady noises like air conditioning, fluorescent lighting, airplane engines. There is no chance they are cancelling out a piano, that is not how they work. You probably just have your music up very loud. Try using them with noise cancelling on and no music playing and I bet you will hear that piano.
I’ve said before, and I’ll say it again. I stand by Bose for quality, MPOW if I don’t really care that much. I just picked up my first pair of Skullcandys. So far they’re pretty good
A buddy of mine owed me about $300 and he had enough credit at the Apple store, he talked me in to taking a brand new pair of Beats for the debt he owed. I thought, $350 headphones, what could go wrong? They had to be good, right? Well, they sucked. Sound quality of $25 headphones. I ended up selling them on eBay for about $150. Also, I ended up buying a pair of $380 Sennheiser headphones that I still use today and sound incredible.
Apple did not invent in ear monitors. The version shown in the video is also not the one that came with the iPod but a much later version. Apple did create a great advertising campaign with the black silhouet wearing those white in ear headphones. Also Beats was originally made by Monster the terrible company that sells 200$ HDMI cables. So it's no wonder they sold terrible overpriced headphones.
I’m a casual and I love beats ear buds. Their Power Beats Pro and studio buds work awesome and sound good to me. I think they look cool too. I’m probably the furthest from an audiophile so they don’t really bug me at all.
That is fine that they don't bug you, but once you buy something else like the Beyerdynamic DT770 which is around half the price, that is when you might look down on them and you realise how much better the DT770 is. Honestly, I think they sound good too, but once I bought my DT770s for half the price as beats headphones, I realised how bad and dissapointing Beats headphones are with their overpriced linup. To make this clearer, I respect that you love Beats as I was a casual listener too and I loved my cheap 10 dollar samsung earbuds, but once I bought something better I found how much better audio can sound. I am not going to tell you to buy something better as I respect your choice and you don't need to buy anything better since you love your current audio gear. I am not one you force you to buy something better since it is none of my business. You make your own choices and keep those Beats dear to you. Make sure to enjoy and have fun. :D
I just use my good old Audio-Technica ATH-M20X, they are cheap sound pretty good and are reliable. Served me great for around 10 years. On my PC I use them with Sonarworks Sound ID headphone edition, a cool software to change the sound profile and make them sound super flat like studio monitor speakers.
I'm not an audiophile, but I like getting real value for my buck, I use the kzn zsn-pro with the az09 pro wirless adapter, and I have a way better sounding headphones than any airpod for around 60 bucks and If anything breaks only one part needs ro be replaced
Wait wait wait... You said quality and Bose in the same sentence.... The only thing they're good at is noise cancelling. Audio quality is eh, and the ear pads are literally designed to fail within a year. Hubby's pair had to be replaced a total of SIX times before we demanded a refund, and that was only over the course of about 14 months. If it wasn't ear cups failing after a month or two, it was the bluetooth chips going screwey and constantly dropping out. The Sony ones we picked up are not only going strong, the battery actually lasts as long as is claimed... I'm rather surprised you completely skipped over the actual initial start of Beats, where it was a project spearheaded by a few employees of Monster Cable (without permission from the board on top of that), and then the music industry literally screwed them over, stole the entire product line, and then went on a complete rebranding campaign to cut Monster Cable out of the equation.
I don’t know if future proof knew just how polarizing the online audio community can be. Its kind of hilarious watching all the arguments break out over who’s channel to check out or what “actually good” headphones are. Not that I can weight in as my favourite pair (shout out to GradoLabs) are just as polarizing.
I don't want to defend him AT ALL; but pronouncing Jimmy Iovine (pronounced EYE-VEEN) like that @1:27 is insane, and could have been fixed after watching a single solitary video with him in it.
I have a pair of studio 3s and I love them, BUT I only use them in gym. Any other place I just a different set of headphones or earbuds. I like having the loud and bassy music when I lift. Plus they stay on my head pretty well and haven’t broken from flying off while ripping deadlifts.
The sheer audacity to imply that any audiophile would recommend bose is mind-blowing... Let this be written in your head as if written in the very fabric of the universe: Bose is regarded almost as bad as beats! They do NOT make headphones based on sound quality, the only thing about bose you can say they are one of the best of, is noise cancelling, that's all. In fact, for any audiophile that isn't just a close headed old conservationist, beats is better than bose nowadays because beats does actually have some decent headphones while bose still just is on the same page as always.
I found these headphones at work a few years back. I almost never used them because they smushed my ears horribly. I'd rather used the iPod wired earbuds.
The main reason Beats are not cool now is because Apple bought them and now they are the “cheep” AirPods if you can’t afford or don’t like the Apple style. Beats do not usually compete in the high end anymore just active wear for a few products but most are cheeper alternatives to Airpods and other wireless headphones. Apple basically used Beats to develop their own headphones and now does not want Beats competing with their cash cow.
I use my Beats for running and quite honestly they do the job. They hold up to rain, sweat and general exposure to the environment. They are light weight, the stay in place and guess what? They play music. Job done.
I had a pair of those Beats Flex and only used them for running, there were supposed to be waterproof and the tech inside just died, not worth it in the long run
I'm a moderate audiophile with a home recording studio and a pair of those iconic Sony MDR-5607 or whatever headphones that have lasted over 20 years ( I did replace the foam cups several year ago). I also really dig my Beats Flex Bluetooth headphones for going to the gym or for walks. They are easy, comfortable, and most importantly, they DO NOT overhype the bass. The sound is fairly balanced, which I like. I never had, and likely never will, consider the over-the-ear Beats for my studio. They are overpriced. My Beats Flex literally cost $65 CAN and they've worked perfectly for about 3 years now.
I have a pair of the Sony MDR-7506s that I use with my PC. I also have a pair of Sony WH-1000XM4s (Wireless Over The Ear) & a pair of Sony WF-1000XM4s (Wireless In Ear).
@@Undecided0 XD me too. I actually like the sound the 7506s make, even if some people consider it grainy and scratchy. The XM4's are my daily driver for going outside.
In the pro audio world, Bose is considered to be garbage, but better than Beats. Btw, that's the most awkward pronunciation of Iovine that I've ever heard.
If y'all want honest opinions about headphones and anything related to audiophiles go check out Dank pods. Not only does he have years of experience in the world of music but he's videos are very entertaining. I remember back when I was in college Beasts started to take off. I did need a new pair of headphones but when I checked out how much they werr selling I was more than happy to stick with my ear pods. Currently I use a paid of Samson 850s when I am at home to listen to my music and couldn't be happier with the quality at the price.
I believe what one tech commentor said about WHY Apple bought beats. It wasn't really for the headphones. It was to acquire Beats Music which was converted into Apple music. Any useful tech from the headphones has been absorbed (Airpods Pro, Airpods ProMax) with Beats headphones being a secondary product. It also removed a competitor for Apple.
I remember in my marketing class a textbook showed that Beats’ costs were overwhelmingly from marketing rather than research and development. So I’m not surprised if there is a 10x price jump
When I realized beats were marketing trash, I married Sennheiser and I haven't used any other brand. It's kinda expensive but my oldest pair of headphones are 4 years old and they still working as brand new, besides it's beautiful technology for listening all kind of music almost
I had bought a pair back in high school because I saw someone else wearing them. They looked so much better than most headphones did back then, and in high school that mattered to me (yes I know, it’s dumb). I bought a pair when in 2009, they lasted me about 2 years before one side went out and the headband rubber started falling off. I super glued it back. But despite all of that, I loved them. The bass was amazing (loved heavy bass music) and even if it was muddy I didn’t care because bass!! I know beats are looked down still but out of all the other headphones at the time, these were actually cool to wear. I still use Beats to this day, I’ve used other headphones since and something about their sport earbuds is great for the gym, they still have that punchy bass (not as heavy or muddy) and they actually stay on my ears. Overall I’ll only buy beats if they are heavily discounted, because I’m not paying full MSRP for that quality again.
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You should have been around for the MDRV 700's in the 90's. Wearing those out with a Minidisc walkman gave me instant street cred lol. I still have them, they still work, they're solid as a rock and you can throw a ton of power at them which is why they were the headphone of choice for DJ's at the time. When I wore them out again recently I got stares that I never see anyone with Beats getting; it's probably a familiarity breeds contempt situation and nearly no-one under 30 is familiar with the 700's nowadays.
It's overpriced garbage. They literally put that trash in every music video. And the marketing worked against me. The more I saw them, the more repugnant I found them to be. When I finally saw them in person, they were cheap plastic, and the sound quality was the same as $20 headphones. They are nothing more than overly marketed, extremely sub-par, mediocre, overpriced junk. There are much better headphones for the same price, like bose, or sony, even apple.
As an unpopular opinion, not all beats are bad. Their latest earphones have pretty similar tunings to any other truly wireless crap you can find out there and is relative in its performance. The tuning of course is very biased, but the second/ third gen solos have some pretty good detail to them that give a fun sound if you crave it. There's no way in hell I can justify the build quality of any beats, Even the metallic built pros, but man their warranty between 2014-2016 with AppleCare was amazing. The only thing I don't understand is how in the audiophile world, people can justify the airpod max despite it's terrible tuning. It's base is just as emphasized as the beats, and the treble is drowned out by it and the mids. EQ just doesn't help either beats or AirPods for me vs getting a better pair of headphones. The double standard is hilarious.
For those with an audiophile bent, or who want a lot of comparisons. Crinacle is your guy, definitely knowledgeable about this topic.
Ty for this recommendation!
Also Dankpods, if you're more casual about it and want to have a good laugh
@@Fernando-ek8jp Two of the worst informed audiophiles in the entire community.
@@4kirb Thanks for the gatekeeping
www.youtube.com/@nyvoreviews5443 Is a friend who generally has pretty good takes, Bose also have laughable quality in the audiophile sphere. Dankpods has awful preference to headphones, where you start to question his ability to hear. Crinacle is hell bent on sucking off Frequency Response graphs instead of ability to resolve detail, often marking down bad resolving iems as exceptional.
I seem to remember reading that Beats added small internal weights to their headphones to make them seem more substantial and therefore better than a lightweight pair of headphones. Maybe other companies do so as well.
I've read the same thing.
We looked into this after reading a similar comment and it's true, these headphones cost _significantly_ less to produce than they're sold for so it makes sense. Here's the article we found on the subject www.cnet.com/culture/the-four-bits-of-metal-that-make-beats-headphones-feel-less-flimsy/#:~:text=However%2C%20a%20new%20teardown%20of,to%20make%20them%20feel%20heavier.
That's a common practice to make products seem more premium.
I posted the same thing, then noticed you BEATS me to it!
Yeah I remember hearing the same thing! I’ve invested in a pair of Nura headphones which use otoacoustics to optimise the sound for your individual hearing profile and they are amazing
As a nerdy audiophile, let me clarify a few things. Beats headphones are indeed poorly constructed, too bassy, and don't even attempt to be properly resolving at certain frequencies ; and they are more fashion statements than good audio equipment, all of this is true. But to give credit where it's due, Beats did make something incredible, their recommendation and discovery algorithm for Beats Music. And this is the real reason Apple bought them, killing Beats Music shortly after the acquisition to launch Apple Music. Beats headphones have mostly been relagated to the active and sportsgear side of the audio market as Apple has its own audio products to sell.
Also, and arguably more importantly for me, I take issue with your recommendations for alternatives to Beats headphones. No audiophile in their right mind would recommend Bose, with their lackluster quality for the price, and long history of deceitful/manipulative marketing and patent abuse. Your other (sponsored) recommendation rubs me especially the wrong way since AIAIAI, while looking sharper and more consumer-friendly than Beats, employs alot of the same marketing tactics, using online creators and sustainabilty claims instead of music celebrities and athletes. Especially when sound-wise, their headphones have a bassy, very coloured sound signature, and only their latest S05 driver is close to worth its asking price. And while the modular aspect sounds consumer friendly, only they sell the parts, and no company is eternal. Frankly, I'd rather recommend something like the Sennheiser HD25 if you want something compartively cheap, that sounds significantly better and is as close to indestrcutible as it gets. Because while it's not modular or made from recycled plastics, DJs have been abusing those since the 80s and keep coming back for more.
Agree with this. Besides, more popular headphones are very likely to be modular to some degree anyway. I know I just replaced the earpads, cables, and meshes of my Sennheiser HD 599-all purchased online.
Guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, Bose is yuppie era hype product, long dismissed by audiophiles.
Was just about to recommend sennheiser, but you said it better than I could have.
Sennhieser isn't producing at the quality they did in the 80's. I've had 2 and neither one lasted for more than a year. Although I have to say that the sound quality is great, and they're pretty comfortable. I'm not impressed with the longevity.
As a proud owner of HD 25, I couldn't agree more. I recommend getting the pro version even though it's pricier but you do get better cable and extra ear pads. I have mine for about 6 years now, carry it in my bag every single day, and it's still going strong. Also it does a fantastic job blocking noise and arguably works just as well on a plane.
I worked in the Apple Genius Bar when Apple bought Beats. The headphones were of notoriously poor quality. The band that goes over the head would break, or the cushioning part of the headphones would separate from the casing. Eventually the quality did improve, but then (as you mentioned) they were no longer cool, and sales declined.
We've also seen reports online of the pleather cushioning degrading over time or the plastic chipping easily. THIS is why its important to do research on products beforehand since a high pricetag does not always equal quality... 🤦♂🤷♂
I got one for free, and after a year and a half, the hinge broke :(
But I have to say, headphones have no doubt became cool after beats came into the scene.
Just like at Sony XM5.
AirPods Max.
Bose 700.
There is no doubt that not only do they sound good, they’re actually nice looking!
mine used to do that too and i thought it was my fault for misusing the headphones xD
the pleather tears very easily if you wear earrings.
@@cabbage-soup mine peel due to me wearing glasses 🤓
But then, Sony and Bose also used pleather, which is why I avoid those as well.
But those are still a wayyyy better deal than Bose, for sure.
Like honestly, it’s rare for me to find a product so bad that it offends me. Beats by Dre is one of those products. Disgusting trash sound, the bass sound like someone is taking a huuuuuuge shit into your ears and the treble is so screechy that it feels ;ike it’s cutting into your brain. Just arghhh…. The amount of hate I have for them things is unreal.
To be honest, the audiophiles i know would just as well frown at Bose, they are also far from the best sound quality with their headphones, but have a similar fashion appeal to white collars as Beats had to the pop/hiphop community.
Glad to see a comment I can agree with. Hifiman Edition XS, Verum 1/2/3 and Audio Technica r70x, is where the value picks are. For sustainability: Koss ain't gonna be bad with their lifetime warranty policy. Audio technica's repair program is pretty easy to use too. Hifiman is the only sketchy returns and I've never heard good things.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Guess that's true, but the difference here is mainly being created with aesthetics in mind VS solely for the purpose of aesthetics
Bose are very comfortable and built decent. I have a some Sennheiser and always go to my Bose set
@@4kirb I've RMA'd my sundaras and it was a mixed bag, when I initially got them the left driver made a rattle so I had to send them away to the New York repair place. I had to pay for shipping because Im not based in the US but if you are they apparently provide a prepaid shipping label. After the headphones arrived they sent me a new pair, however, when the new pair arrived the right driver was DOA. I emailed them about it again and they got me to send that pair back and they sent me a third pair. I've had these ones for about two years now and they've been good so far 🤞 so take that how you will. I just wanted to share my experience.
@@4kirb Verum are absolute chads doing the production while in a warzone, too. Kharkiv is a frontline city, not so far away from where I live.
My Beats deteriorated very quickly within 12 months of owning them - I replaced them with Bang and Olufsen 12 months ago and they are significantly superior in sound quality and durability. The Beats were $AUD399 and the B&O were $AUD599 on sale. Worth it in my opinion.
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B&O are the best in aesthetics and sound quality so it’s money well spent
Until you try something like the ml5909 or the batys.
I personally upgrade my beoplay h7 to a ml5909 and they are completely on another level.
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonico Thanks for the great suggestion! I will keep the Mark Levinson's in mind when I replace the B&O. Cheers.
You bought a pair of B&O headphones? Man are you a sucker for plastic and chrome. Next time go for sound quality first not looks. Like Sundara's.
Bose headphones also have easily replaceable parts. I've had a pair for well over 10 years. I've replaced the cable and the ear pads a couple of times and they're good as new!
same. plus if you're an MIT alumna/e, Dr. Bose gave us all 15% off all Bose products for life. Plus the sound is magnificent.
During my college years of 2010-2013 Beats were massively popular. But I work at best Buy and got an amazing employee discount, so it helped to get me a couple of different models.
I really enjoyed my Beats Detox. I listen to hip hop/techno/house/rap, so the headphones perfectly matched my listening style.
The only issue I had was weight - they were heavy!
And over time, I didn't want to use them due to neck and head fatigue.
I still have them, but due to a wireless world, I have no use for them but to collect dust, until I go on an airplane to plug in and watch a movie.
They actually add weights to the heaphones to make them seem heavier and therefore better quality, that's why they're so heavy! If you were willing to take them apart you could probably remove the weights.
@@rexfoxoloughlin6033 The Beats Pro are literally made out of aluminum. You can see it on the outside. That's where the weight on those come from. As someone who was taking them apart as well, I can assure you there's no artificial way to these as with some of the other models
Wired headphones have a place... I got tired of constantly having to charge them.
@@curlyhairdudeify true. Personally, I've never had that issue. Usb c charges devices pretty fast. 15mins of charge goes a long way
I think the true impact beats and later apple had on the headphone industry was just how normalized it got to spend more than 50 dollars on headphones, Yes many people will still be perfectly happy with their budget no name brand bluetooth headphones but far more people now will be rocking 150 - 350 dollar headphones like airpods of all flavors sony wh-1000xm4's etc than you ever would have seen 8 years ago.
Totally agree on this, a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't be dishing out 100's of $ on headphones started to do so because of the Beats trend. Kinda shaped the industry as we know it 🤷♂
Check out WYZE! I got their ANC headphone and they are pretty great and have a nice solid build for like $60!
They've expanded to more than just webcams now... lol
@@FutureProofTV I think it’s more that beats opened the idea of having a nice pair of headphones to more people and then they realized that beats weren’t good. Nowadays I see tons of people at my gym with Sony XM4’s far more than I would expect would class themselves as an audiophile but if there’s a piece of tech that you use daily and very extensively then why not spend a few hundred bucks
are there bluetooth headphones for less than 50$? ive never gotten any but they all look so expensive to me, i thought it was bc bluetooth itself was expensive
they just bought them to dominate the market with Airpods Max
I did record once at a fairly well known studio that specialized in a niche genre and the producer used beats as the vocal reference headphones. The reason, they said, was because the added bass made the vocalist feel like they sounded a little better than they actually are so they weren't as shy about singing. idk how true or useful that is, but at least there's someone using them for something professional.
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I remember in 2014 when I wanted a pair so badly and finally gave them a listen, only to find that they sounded like my razer headphones. If you and more bang for buck, just wait for any of the senheiser 600s family to go on sale (which is quite often).
Yeah the quality just isn't there!! Thanks for sharing ☺️
Buying stuff is getting tiring.
Big time...
I had a pair of beats when I was younger and at the time thought expensive meant good sound quality. Crazy now to think how wrong I was about that. I recently invested in a pair of nicer B&O headphones and have not looked back since
I run Sennheiser x Massdrop 58x. Simple, wired, openback headphones that sound great imo. Something understated is the ability to clean and maintain the padding. Headband and earpads are all removable which makes them easy to clean and replace in the future when they get squished down
I'm rocking my Sennheisers right now too - had them for years, they're comfy to wear with glasses for long periods of time, and they sound great. Now I'm curious if mine come apart - my ear pads are getting a bit sad looking. Will look into that for sure!
@@LadyTamuril which pair you have
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As a note, those buds were cheap thrown ins but they instantly communicated that the person was listening to an iPod or iPhone. So when Apple released the Airpods, they retained a lot of the visuals that were iconic with iPhones so they stayed instantly recognisable.
Between these two visually distinct brands, Apple have a nearly 50% market share of headphones in Australia (I haven’t done the research for anywhere else).
Contagious by Jonah Berger goes into more detail on this and lines up well with what you’ve put into your video. Definitely well researched.
Apple's dumb wired EarPods hit the diffuse field target better than most studio headphones do while only costing 18€. They're punching way waaay above their weight class as far as technical audio quality goes.
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The great thing about those cheap earbuds is that they signaled to everybody around them that they're probably hearing impaired and you can probably talk about them without them being able to hear what you're saying.
@@dfcx1 They also made a significant portion of young people hearing impaired because they didn't ever fit right and you had to crank up the volume if you wanted to hear what was being played.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Correct, hard earbuds aren't going to fit all ears, particularly small young people ears. I found them all categorically unusable when I was a kid. Noise exposure is going to catch a lot of people off guard since you don't know how loud is too loud until it's too late. This was a thing with Walkmen and the like decades before EarPods existed though, so I think it's wrong to blame any particular headphone model instead of noisy listening environments and bad usage habits.
I think it was Marques Brownlee who made a video about Beats, and his point was that Apple bought out beats and then intentionally killed them off to make space in the market for AirPods
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apple killed beats by making their airpods, airpod pro max are now the fashion icons
I'm not a complete audiophile but I wholeheartedly believe in good sound. Tinnitus scares the crap out of me so I'm kind of paranoid these days about turning my music up. I just want crisp, clear and clean everything. Bass. Treble. All of it. Sennheiser has always done that for me. To me those sound amazing and they dont break the bank because you're not going all hype beast.
the way he says Jimmy’s last name is not even remotely close LMAO
At first I thought it was a joke!
I came here to say this. Nobody in the comments seems to notice.
Crazy how far down I had to scroll to find this 😅
LOL, to use Bose as an example of "good sounding headphones" is funny. Mostly because Bose is notorious for being overly bass heavy, with some heights and almost no mids.
Sony would have been a better comparision.
Yeah, when he said Bose I remembered the old maxim on audiophile foruns.
"Better Off with another Sound Equipment"
But still, it seems that the Bose's professional line is adored, specially by pilots, but those are different qualities from sound quality.
@@herrerasauro7429 I have worn them in a small plane once, for voice communcation they're awesome, so is the sound insulation. But what's good for voice does not make a good sounding headphone for music listening.
Though their ANC is pretty good.
You're right, we should've done a range of examples and included Sony and other popular brands that a lot of audiophiles would go for. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@FutureProofTV It's not so much Audiophile, I just found it funny that you mentioned how bass heavy Beats are and then pick another brand that is known for exactly the same thing.
In the end how good headphones or speakers sound is a personal preference. I recently picked up some Focal Bathy's and they are the first wireless headphones that I would say can compete with my wired over ears, but at a price.
Oh bloody hell, why'd you have to mention Sony ? Their flagship headphone line, the WH-1000XM series, is basically old school beats sound-wise, except with top of the class noise cancelling. The XM4 are +5dB between 1 and 200 Hz compared to the Bose QC35. That's a pretty big difference in the bass region. I have them, they're great for commuting, the noise cancelling improvements made by Bose and Sony over older tech really changed noise cancelling from a gimmick to a nearly compulsory feature for commuting.
But calling them better than Bose is serious pot calling kettle black.
I seem to remember that beats put weights in their early models so they didn't feel cheap
Just looked into this and it looks like they did! You can read up more on this here: www.cnet.com/culture/the-four-bits-of-metal-that-make-beats-headphones-feel-less-flimsy/#:~:text=However%2C%20a%20new%20teardown%20of,to%20make%20them%20feel%20heavier.
I recently got some Samson SR850C (thanks to Dankpods!) over-ear, open-back headphones for $35 from B&H Photo in New York. I’m no audiophile but… they sound A-MAZING! They are the most lightweight, comfortable and best sounding cans I’ve owned. Sure they’re wired but I plan on getting a portable DAC to add Bluetooth support later and, since I still listen to most of my music on my 5th gen. iPod or my Android phone with headphone jack, I’m good. When I first got them, I had been using the iPod’s EQ settings with my cheap earbuds but I discovered that, with the Samsons, turning off the EQ made the music sound better! This is easily one of the best price-for-performance purchases I’ve ever made.
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Reminds me of the brief moment I'm the mid 00s when iPods were a fashion accessory.
Saw a girl on the internet with an ipod nano as a hairclip recently...... so we're back.
I wish they still made them
I rather not waste my phone battery and usage in music alone in case of emergency and instead have a sperate device dedicated to a music playlist. Oh well.
@@SemekiIzuio Yeah I googled it. They discontinued the iPod touch last year 😢. I'm sure there's plenty being resold online tho
I will say in Beats favor, their Powerbeat pro design has been a life saver for me. As someone who has really small ears, they are the only pair of earbuds I've ever found that fit me and are great for sports, especially climbing.
I got a free pair in 2017 & they’re still working, though I did replace the ear cushions myself. They are now my designated “cleaning headphones” since they’re Bluetooth & I don’t care if they get damaged while I clean the shower or mow the lawn.
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I can never understand how people will pay over $100 for headphones. The most I'd pay pay for headphones is $30 and even that is pushing it. But then again I'm poor. I'd rather pay bills and have food
Beats made me want cans for sure, I was okay with my $10 panasonic earbuds. But at $300+, I started investigating competitors' brands. In the end and after literal years, I first got the Sony CH-700 on sale and finally got XM4s a couple years ago.
So thank you, Beats, for peaking my interest in the high fidelity audio game. Music sounds so good on the XM4s
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Tbf, those Panasonic earbuds are really good for being only $10.
Wouldn’t call xm4s high fidelity. I mean they sound decent for consumer headphones and I’m glad I have them for convenience but they are NOT balanced in the slightest. My $50 audio technicias sound better than either my xm4s or QC 35 ii
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xm4s are great what are you on about
For headphones, I'm just trust: Sennheiser, AKG, Audio-Technica and other great old-school headphones manufactories.
Being nearly 40 years old, I grew up with Sony and I still love them to this day. In fact I am wearing a pair of Sony WH-1000XM4’s…Sennheiser is also a phenomenal brand but the one issue I’ve seen and had with them is their somewhat subpar quality control.
You guys should dig a little more into the history. The first beats headphones were actually developed by monster and their music tech in collaboration with dr.dre and Iovine. Dre and Iovine got the beats brand by drawing up sneaky music industry contracts that the guys running monster wasn't familiar with. If you look back at monster headphones they've had some amazing sets before their ultimate demise. The monster turbine copper pros for one.
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Monster's history is a bit shady, selling expensive HDMI cables, when cheap ones have the same quality. - A digital signal is either off or on. You can improve upon it.
This video seriously lacked research. He said earpods were introduced in 2001-they were not. Said Bose has a fanbase of audiophiles. I love my Bose and am not an audiophile and am still insulted on their behalf
i have three, yes three! paiurs of the monster clarity on ear headphones. they are AMAZING. best gym headphones i've ever had. they fit my ears perfeclty, have great sound and easy to clean.
When the beats were popular I remember getting the Koss PortaPros. Still my favorite headphones till this day
A man of taste, I see 🎧
I've been rocking a pair of those for about a decade 🤘
its Jimmy eye-veen. That's how its properly said.
Really good video! I remember people wearing beats at school and I wanted to be part of that so bad but they were so expensive. I had to buy a second hand pair from one of the popular kids at school and that was still $200. I shot a Music video with my cousin, he had a small following for his music and I wore my beats to the video shoot. Making it part of my whole identity as I recorded my scenes with the gorgeous lady I was paired with for our scenes. I eventually sold them off for like $150 or something and I found headphones for $20-$50 that are way better quality than Beats. If you buy them now, it’s because you like the wireless and easy use but airpods are also in the same boat where they’re expensive because of brand.
I wanted some Beats just to look cool and they were on sale during the holiday season but when I went to the Apple Store to try them on they kept pulling my hair. It turned to a hard no for me :/
Ahh good thing there's plenty of other over-ear headphones that will still make you look cool 👀😎😎
I have a pair of Beats that my husband bought me, and use them daily. They're not great (I'm too cheap to buy anything new until these wear out), and they pull out my hair ALL THE DAMN TIME!
The comparison between in-ear and over-ear audio is less straightforward than your statement that full-size headphones are obviously better. IEMs and headphones are subject to different constraints and opportunities. They offer two different approaches to producing good sound.
Not to mention that IEM's are used heavily in the professional world - you just need to purchase quality ones. Comparing a decent pair of headphones that are a few hundred dollars to $20 "we only pay $0.07 to have them made" Apple ear buds does a huge disservice to the studio quality in ear monitors.
Honestly the one “Beats” product I own is my Powerbeats Pro as they would stay on my ears as I exercised and were the most comfortable compared to other alternatives I tried. If I were to aim for pure listening, I’d aim for something better.
Not related to the topic but your replies to the comments are so professional and admirable. Some people just straight out quarrel with their viewers
I'm on my second pair of Bose noise cancelling headphones in probably 20 years. I'm a big fan because they work for my needs, but I'm also probably older than your average viewer so my needs/wants are different.
. . . . wait, what was innovative about "earpods" in 2001 (not what they were called, they didn't have a name)?
They were just earbuds, the same that had been around for a very long time. The only reasons the "earpods" became much of a thing at the time was because Ipods took off, so by default there was a lot of the Apple earbuds around for no other reason than they came with something that was selling a lot.
Every few years, for decades now, there has been some sort of portable electronic device / status symbol that comes out that is easily lost, stolen, or broken. I never paid much attention to Beats because I just figured that was the latest iteration of that particular consumer trap.
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The sudden Dankpods cut in literally made me jump because I wasn't expecting it
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i will say, i have a pair of studio 3s i got for the gym, used but in amazing shape for $150. being i have them for the gym, i don’t mind the heavy bass. and with apple having bought them and me using and iphone, it makes the user exit that much better than some other products. plus, they are comfy and the noises cancelling is solid. i know they aren’t amazing sound quality but for me they work really well. they serve a specific purpose and do it well, well enough to where if they broke today i would go buy another pair right now
Having worked for Beats during the Apple acquisition, seriously this video is kinda garbage. Number one, teardowns don’t take into account parts binning for lower variance, tooling, firmware engineering, labor etc, making the cost breakdowns listed worthless. Secondly, most of the cost breakdowns were on the Monster era stuff, which was much lower quality. Thirdly, people love to rave about the AirPods while trashing Beats, even though the engineering behind them is largely the same. And lastly, AiAiAi…..not even gonna go there. I’m glad you like them, but really dude, it kind of shows how little you know. AiAiAi has always been a fashion first brand. Anyway, welcome to 2013 TH-cam clickbait, glad you could make it.
For instance I like the Sennheiser HD-25 for this. Yes you know them, you saw them for sure, they're on the market since 1988 and probably every sound tech guys used them. You can still buy parts if you broke it. I like that mentality. Proof that if you make a good, solid and well price, it will sell by itself.
I was about to say the same - I’ve been using my Sennheiser ear buds for over 10years, and they still sound superb, and work great - so why change them?
I bring my dt770 everywhere I go. It's my favorite. My backup is a Sony xb900n that I got when I wasn't an audiophile yet but they introduced me to the beyerdynamics.
I remember working at frys when the first beats came out, seeing how much they were marked up, laughing, and then buying my first pair of audiotechnicas. Good times. I should have bought a bunch and sold them on Craigslist, but alas, I am as dumb as rocks.
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Dude I just came across your channel and I’m impressed! Subscribed!
Back in 2013, I tried my friend's Beats headphone. At that time, I realized bass is their main focus... And sometimes it's bloated and burry the detail of the music if the music already have too much bass. And, since I love experimenting, I started using EQ, knows the basic and eventually makes my 15$ chinese headphone sounds decent and more balanced than his Beats. Slowly, I realized Beats was overpriced.
Now, I'm using handmade, DIY 100$ headphone, which is very simple, all metal frame, and have insane flexibility at EQing so I can theoretically shape my headphone sounds to mimic any other headphones. Except for detail and soundstage but it's virtually have no competitor (at least for my taste) untill I reach 300$ bracket (I mean Hifiman or Sennheiser standard). Same goes for my DIY IEM.
For today's taste. I see people would prefer minimalistic with functionality. And with IEM technologies, people would prefer IEM: small, compact, and do their jobs. And with more audiophile contenys on TH-cam, more people nowadays have more awareness about sound quality. With this, Beats headphone becomes another overpriced-hypebeast headphone.
For those who interested in audiophile worls, Crinacle channel and website is a good start. Also my personal favourites is Gizaudio for Timmies's casual and humble persona and Dankpods for good laugh. But remember the moral story from Beats: trust your own ear and on what you needs, don't push yourself to get hyped things and do your research and comparison before buying.
Moral of the story : Don't trust popular musicians for headphone recommendations. (If you care about sound quality, of course)
Personally I like the Audio Technica ATH-M50x with a headphone amp myself. It's not portable but they sound really good just using them at home. Every Bose item I've ever had broke or fell apart. Not a Bose fan.
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Sennheiser PXC 550-II all day, every day! Good all-around sound, fantastic quality, and fair price. I’m not an audiophile, but I do like the sound of great Jazz, R&B, and Classic Rock coming through my headphones.
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Had a sad little chuckle that being able to replace parts in and repair something has become a selling point/something that makes a product stand out from the crowd now. I've been running the same set of Sennheiser HD595s since 2005. Have replaced plenty of earpads, the cable twice, and one set of drivers, but it all came apart and went back together easily because... that's just kinda how they were built.
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I remember back around like 2012-2014 beats were popular at my school, but I never owned a pair due to the build and sound quality.
Oh no! You poked the audiophile hornets nest! Some one is gonna lay out the old "no highs, no lows, must be Bose", lol. I have never even tried on a pair of Beats, I am not their target demo, 50, NOT a hip-hop fan, and have no interest in fashion trends. I do have a Sony Bluetooth noise canceling headset that I wear while traveling, and around the house, they are a life saver. I have had them for almost 4 years, they look like new, they sound great (not an audiophile, decades of working around turbine engines has cost me a few frequencies, lol) and when the kids are screaming on the airplane, I am drifting off to sleep listening to Pink Floyd, or the Odyssey.
Not sure if I'm just missing it but that clip you featured is from dankpods! A great creator!
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I used apple earbuds as my daily listening/ gaming device for my PC because I hate wearing a headset. You can't beat how simple and affordable these are.
they're basically useless outside of the Apple ecosystem. I got a pair for free when I bought my iPad from a friend and they were so inconvenient to try and use on my android, windows laptop, and even my switch that I just sold them at a loss a while later. Went and got some no-name earbuds off Amazon that work WAY better and sound better at like less than half the cost.
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@@quanticflowersThis is because apple uses their own headphone jack so you can't use the microphone or volume control on your Apple Earpods on Android.😂
earpods are great dude, good sound simple design, I'd take that over any gaming headset in sub100 dollars but airpods nah... good until its battery is cooked.
I have a bunch of studio-and-otherwise headphones but I keep going back to my 20-year-old Sony MDR-CD780s. I've had to repair them several times because I don't like any of the current production headphones I could get as replacements as much. Being worth repairing is a pretty great longevity feature.
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If a product is promoted ad nauseam by celebrities, more was probably spent on marketing than the actual product.
I am no audiophile and can't justify spending thousands on enthusiast grade equipment. I have found Sony products often a good balance between quality and price. Bose are okay but I don't see them as any better than Sony. So much of audio equipment is subjective though depending on what sort of sound balance you like
Yes, celebrities, despite being rich beyond belief, are the cheapest people on planet Earth, and won't wear or promote anything unless a company pays them to wear it. And then those same celebrities get mad at their fans when they don't promote it for free, or they feel they aren't doing a good enough job giving them free promotion. Or they didn't spend enough money on them.
@@joeybaseball7352 lol totally. I've never understood the celebrity worship culture in this country 🤣 and it's so often mired in hypocrisy. They present themselves as allies of the people when they couldn't be more out of touch with reality. There are a few well grounded ones but those are the exception.
When it comes to consumer grade equipment with good features, Sony and Bose are a little pricey, but pretty good. Say what you will about AirPods Max price, but their build quality obliterates Sony and Bose though (I don’t have a pair but bought one for my mother and she loves them)
Totally agree. Over the years Sony products have always been a good value.
I use my skullcandy cassette everyday. It's cheap, durable, good battery life and good sound quality. It's good for outdoor use. When it comes to my home.. That's whole different story when it comes to audio.
I REALLY like my $$$ Bose wireless noice-cancelling headphones. I’m a college student living next to a very inconsiderate piano teacher along with all the crazy noice I have to deal with… I am able to focus and do my work. I still use my old-school corded Apple ear pods when out and about, but my Bose I use at home. I can cook and clean and do what I need to while still listening to lecture… and it cancels the horrific piano practice noise. BTW my Fiat 500x has a Beats stereo system. It rocks. Lol
Glad they work for you! Thanks for sharing here, Elizabeth 🥰
Noise cancelling headphones don't work that way. That is noise isolation, not cancellation. Noise cancellation cancels constant steady noises like air conditioning, fluorescent lighting, airplane engines. There is no chance they are cancelling out a piano, that is not how they work. You probably just have your music up very loud.
Try using them with noise cancelling on and no music playing and I bet you will hear that piano.
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Who this Jimmy YooVeenAy?
I’ve said before, and I’ll say it again. I stand by Bose for quality, MPOW if I don’t really care that much. I just picked up my first pair of Skullcandys. So far they’re pretty good
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A buddy of mine owed me about $300 and he had enough credit at the Apple store, he talked me in to taking a brand new pair of Beats for the debt he owed. I thought, $350 headphones, what could go wrong? They had to be good, right? Well, they sucked. Sound quality of $25 headphones. I ended up selling them on eBay for about $150. Also, I ended up buying a pair of $380 Sennheiser headphones that I still use today and sound incredible.
When I went to show production/audio school, even all my teachers talked shit on Beats by Dre.
Apple did not invent in ear monitors. The version shown in the video is also not the one that came with the iPod but a much later version. Apple did create a great advertising campaign with the black silhouet wearing those white in ear headphones. Also Beats was originally made by Monster the terrible company that sells 200$ HDMI cables. So it's no wonder they sold terrible overpriced headphones.
Cheeky little DankPods feature made this video a lot better for me 😂
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I’m a casual and I love beats ear buds. Their Power Beats Pro and studio buds work awesome and sound good to me. I think they look cool too. I’m probably the furthest from an audiophile so they don’t really bug me at all.
That is fine that they don't bug you, but once you buy something else like the Beyerdynamic DT770 which is around half the price, that is when you might look down on them and you realise how much better the DT770 is. Honestly, I think they sound good too, but once I bought my DT770s for half the price as beats headphones, I realised how bad and dissapointing Beats headphones are with their overpriced linup.
To make this clearer, I respect that you love Beats as I was a casual listener too and I loved my cheap 10 dollar samsung earbuds, but once I bought something better I found how much better audio can sound. I am not going to tell you to buy something better as I respect your choice and you don't need to buy anything better since you love your current audio gear. I am not one you force you to buy something better since it is none of my business. You make your own choices and keep those Beats dear to you. Make sure to enjoy and have fun. :D
I just use my good old Audio-Technica ATH-M20X, they are cheap sound pretty good and are reliable. Served me great for around 10 years.
On my PC I use them with Sonarworks Sound ID headphone edition, a cool software to change the sound profile and make them sound super flat like studio monitor speakers.
I'm not an audiophile, but I like getting real value for my buck, I use the kzn zsn-pro with the az09 pro wirless adapter, and I have a way better sounding headphones than any airpod for around 60 bucks and If anything breaks only one part needs ro be replaced
So nice only having to replace parts instead of the entire product, glad you have an item that you enjoy thoroughly!
Wait wait wait... You said quality and Bose in the same sentence.... The only thing they're good at is noise cancelling. Audio quality is eh, and the ear pads are literally designed to fail within a year. Hubby's pair had to be replaced a total of SIX times before we demanded a refund, and that was only over the course of about 14 months. If it wasn't ear cups failing after a month or two, it was the bluetooth chips going screwey and constantly dropping out. The Sony ones we picked up are not only going strong, the battery actually lasts as long as is claimed...
I'm rather surprised you completely skipped over the actual initial start of Beats, where it was a project spearheaded by a few employees of Monster Cable (without permission from the board on top of that), and then the music industry literally screwed them over, stole the entire product line, and then went on a complete rebranding campaign to cut Monster Cable out of the equation.
I don’t know if future proof knew just how polarizing the online audio community can be. Its kind of hilarious watching all the arguments break out over who’s channel to check out or what “actually good” headphones are. Not that I can weight in as my favourite pair (shout out to GradoLabs) are just as polarizing.
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Its the same with any audio equpiment . I call those people audio vodoo
I’ve had a pair of Beats since 2010/2011. I love them. I’ll never go back.
Are they still working
I don't want to defend him AT ALL; but pronouncing Jimmy Iovine (pronounced EYE-VEEN) like that @1:27 is insane, and could have been fixed after watching a single solitary video with him in it.
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I have a pair of studio 3s and I love them, BUT I only use them in gym. Any other place I just a different set of headphones or earbuds. I like having the loud and bassy music when I lift. Plus they stay on my head pretty well and haven’t broken from flying off while ripping deadlifts.
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being using audio-technicia M50x for 10+ years now, still perfect.
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The sheer audacity to imply that any audiophile would recommend bose is mind-blowing... Let this be written in your head as if written in the very fabric of the universe: Bose is regarded almost as bad as beats! They do NOT make headphones based on sound quality, the only thing about bose you can say they are one of the best of, is noise cancelling, that's all. In fact, for any audiophile that isn't just a close headed old conservationist, beats is better than bose nowadays because beats does actually have some decent headphones while bose still just is on the same page as always.
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I found these headphones at work a few years back. I almost never used them because they smushed my ears horribly. I'd rather used the iPod wired earbuds.
The main reason Beats are not cool now is because Apple bought them and now they are the “cheep” AirPods if you can’t afford or don’t like the Apple style. Beats do not usually compete in the high end anymore just active wear for a few products but most are cheeper alternatives to Airpods and other wireless headphones. Apple basically used Beats to develop their own headphones and now does not want Beats competing with their cash cow.
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I use my Beats for running and quite honestly they do the job. They hold up to rain, sweat and general exposure to the environment. They are light weight, the stay in place and guess what? They play music. Job done.
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I had a pair of those Beats Flex and only used them for running, there were supposed to be waterproof and the tech inside just died, not worth it in the long run
@@miguelito5602 beats flex arent water resistant at all. They don’t claim they are.
I'm a moderate audiophile with a home recording studio and a pair of those iconic Sony MDR-5607 or whatever headphones that have lasted over 20 years ( I did replace the foam cups several year ago). I also really dig my Beats Flex Bluetooth headphones for going to the gym or for walks. They are easy, comfortable, and most importantly, they DO NOT overhype the bass. The sound is fairly balanced, which I like. I never had, and likely never will, consider the over-the-ear Beats for my studio. They are overpriced. My Beats Flex literally cost $65 CAN and they've worked perfectly for about 3 years now.
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I have a pair of the Sony MDR-7506s that I use with my PC. I also have a pair of Sony WH-1000XM4s (Wireless Over The Ear) & a pair of Sony WF-1000XM4s (Wireless In Ear).
@@Undecided0 XD me too.
I actually like the sound the 7506s make, even if some people consider it grainy and scratchy.
The XM4's are my daily driver for going outside.
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I always found beats as a "I am ignorant" status. subpar product for its cost. underwhelming is the most generous take I could give.
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In the pro audio world, Bose is considered to be garbage, but better than Beats. Btw, that's the most awkward pronunciation of Iovine that I've ever heard.
bose is tolerable. it sounds ass but at least works, kinda
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If y'all want honest opinions about headphones and anything related to audiophiles go check out Dank pods. Not only does he have years of experience in the world of music but he's videos are very entertaining. I remember back when I was in college Beasts started to take off. I did need a new pair of headphones but when I checked out how much they werr selling I was more than happy to stick with my ear pods. Currently I use a paid of Samson 850s when I am at home to listen to my music and couldn't be happier with the quality at the price.
We're subscribed to DankPods, he's super cool! Glad you opted out of the Beats craze, willpowerrrr 💪
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While DankPods is a cool person, he's not super well versed in audio. You'd have to go to Crinacle for that type of stuff.
I believe what one tech commentor said about WHY Apple bought beats. It wasn't really for the headphones. It was to acquire Beats Music which was converted into Apple music. Any useful tech from the headphones has been absorbed (Airpods Pro, Airpods ProMax) with Beats headphones being a secondary product. It also removed a competitor for Apple.
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I remember in my marketing class a textbook showed that Beats’ costs were overwhelmingly from marketing rather than research and development. So I’m not surprised if there is a 10x price jump
It's pronounced "EYE VEEN," Not "Owe Vin Aye"
When I realized beats were marketing trash, I married Sennheiser and I haven't used any other brand. It's kinda expensive but my oldest pair of headphones are 4 years old and they still working as brand new, besides it's beautiful technology for listening all kind of music almost
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I think Jimmy's last name is pronounced "i-veen"
I had bought a pair back in high school because I saw someone else wearing them. They looked so much better than most headphones did back then, and in high school that mattered to me (yes I know, it’s dumb). I bought a pair when in 2009, they lasted me about 2 years before one side went out and the headband rubber started falling off. I super glued it back. But despite all of that, I loved them. The bass was amazing (loved heavy bass music) and even if it was muddy I didn’t care because bass!! I know beats are looked down still but out of all the other headphones at the time, these were actually cool to wear.
I still use Beats to this day, I’ve used other headphones since and something about their sport earbuds is great for the gym, they still have that punchy bass (not as heavy or muddy) and they actually stay on my ears.
Overall I’ll only buy beats if they are heavily discounted, because I’m not paying full MSRP for that quality again.
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You should have been around for the MDRV 700's in the 90's. Wearing those out with a Minidisc walkman gave me instant street cred lol.
I still have them, they still work, they're solid as a rock and you can throw a ton of power at them which is why they were the headphone of choice for DJ's at the time. When I wore them out again recently I got stares that I never see anyone with Beats getting; it's probably a familiarity breeds contempt situation and nearly no-one under 30 is familiar with the 700's nowadays.
It's overpriced garbage. They literally put that trash in every music video. And the marketing worked against me. The more I saw them, the more repugnant I found them to be. When I finally saw them in person, they were cheap plastic, and the sound quality was the same as $20 headphones. They are nothing more than overly marketed, extremely sub-par, mediocre, overpriced junk. There are much better headphones for the same price, like bose, or sony, even apple.
... this guy gets it.
As an unpopular opinion, not all beats are bad. Their latest earphones have pretty similar tunings to any other truly wireless crap you can find out there and is relative in its performance.
The tuning of course is very biased, but the second/ third gen solos have some pretty good detail to them that give a fun sound if you crave it.
There's no way in hell I can justify the build quality of any beats, Even the metallic built pros, but man their warranty between 2014-2016 with AppleCare was amazing.
The only thing I don't understand is how in the audiophile world, people can justify the airpod max despite it's terrible tuning. It's base is just as emphasized as the beats, and the treble is drowned out by it and the mids. EQ just doesn't help either beats or AirPods for me vs getting a better pair of headphones. The double standard is hilarious.
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All of them are worthless celebrity trash, their endorsment means NOTHING, it even makes me disregard the product more.
EarPods came out in 2012. The ones before that were uncomfortable and I never saw anyone using them