Why is There No Future? - MARK FISHER Lecture
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2020
- Mark Fisher lecture explaining his concepts of capitalist realism, hauntology, and acid communism. The streamed video aims to simplify these complex concepts to introduce key ideas of his thought.
4:21 - context to capitalist realism
11:36 - capitalist realism
13:31 - capitalist realism and culture
16:38 - capitalist realism and mental health
21:08 - capitalist realism and politics
27:03 - exiting the vampires castle
30:37 - hauntology
35:18 - hauntological culture
36:24 - Dua Lipa hauntology
37:57 acid communism
Do you agree with Fisher? Do we mourn for lost futures? has society stagnated? Is there no alternative? Let me know what you think in the comments!
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This is such a great video. I think what’s scary as a Gen z kid is not only the fact that Capitalist Realism is so pervasive in our everyday lives but that many people are not really aware of it. It’s become a sort of Matrix-esque problem where it is better for the individual to be ignorant on pervasive system at large than it is to be aware of it and try to address. As 20 yr old, I can’t even begin to imagine an alternative to this lifestyle that has kinda numb us with advent of technology and market incentives everywhere we look. It is very depressing but I hope by learning these ideas and expanding/spreading them we can break from the system and imagine a better alternative.
Read the sublime object of ideology and you might realize that even if you become aware of the "matrix-esque" problem, the lack of ignorance will likely lead to apathy rather than action. The film Bladerunner 2049 is a perfect example of the way this can play out. In contrast to the first film, replicants in 2049 are prevented from revolting by being told what they are and that their memories are false. It's their knowledge of reality that perpetuates the conditions of society. Only when a coherent alternative becomes believable (a replicant is born allowing replicants access to humanity) can they affect change.
@@getwallabied5645 thanks for that. now i realise why blade runner 2049 was so freaking depressing whereas the original blade runner was exhilarating.
You reckon eh?
At 20 you have a whole life ahead of you. Learn as much as you can but always take everything with a pint of salt. Most importantly do not stop to work on yourself waiting for some utopia to come our way. Not on this earth anyhow. As long as humans existed, since the early days of creation, humans have always been at each other's throat and there is no indication that it is going to change. The last few decades were kind of the best in the West but we seem to be going rather backwards when it comes to social cohesion. As far as capitalism vs communism goes, you have to realise that the majority of people in leadership position who claim to be nor capitalists still are enriching themselves, building mansions, flying private jets and buying stocks where we are not watching. Even those liberal professors will talk about communism and socialism and free stuff but still charge you literally hundreds of thousands and live in private mansions, not some sort of 'professors communes' on campus😂. I could go on and on... but I will stop here. 😂
@@getwallabied5645 Great comment. Can you speak a bit more as to why "lack of ignorance will likely lead to apathy rather than action"
Mark fisher is one of the greatest 21st century philosophers thus far.
Love this book and Mark. The impotency felt as a young person results in a manifestation of struggles in my desire to have children. If there is no better than this system then I’d rather opt out. Many subconsciously want kids but delay as again many are priced out of housing and economic growth.
this is the clearest explanation of mark fisher's thought i have seen on youtube. thanks! :)
Great video about a great author. In France, the philosopher Jean-Claude Michéa is going further on the political aspect. He describes right and left as 2 entangled sides of liberalism : none of them threaten capitalism. Left liberalism only "fights" for minorities and these fights never threatem capitalism. They don't care about the working class. Left has nothing to do with socialism. And thus, here, since the 80s, working class has moved to reactionary populists like Le Pen or Zemmour.
Your comment was so enlightening as to why the liberal fight for marginalized rights in the US has felt so hollow for so long - because it's a fight to get them into the same position as the white working class which ALSO SUCKS. Capitalism isn't threatened by that prospect of "equality" at all.
Chanced upon this video as I was internet-ing for Mark Fisher's work, after reading about it in Roisin Kiberd's book The Disconnect. The 16:38 section articulates so clearly how I feel as a pre-tertiary teacher: students are anxious and burnt out from school, and then the responsibility of managing their energy/time/emotions/mental health being pinned back onto them (or their parents, who sometimes contribute to their troubles). Much appreciation from a fellow millennial. Cheers.
I'm gonna get Fisher's book. I can sense that heavy pessimism in his ideas... Non-linear time could be a cool entry point into envisioning a new future too- it's not all gloom and doom. In the vein of hauntology, which seems to look to recent past, the spiritual/new age communities (communism lol) also have been looking centuries and millennia back for vastly different visions for our new future.
Glad you found it interesting, the section on teaching in capitalist realism rang true with me too. The argument that our education system is currently focused on 20th century assumtions and ignores the impact of these changes on learning I found particularly appealing (almost a nod to Heidegger's evolving notion of being).
There has been a lot written on online teaching and learning during lockdown, but personally I feel the discussions is "how can we re-create the traditional classroom online?" Instead of "how can we reconstruct T&L and the system at large for students living in the 21st century?" In my experience, it's quite difficult to talk to other teachers about these questions as it seems a lot of the T&L/PGCE work is focused on theories securing "managed outcomes" (vygotsky/piaget)
@@janefyp I've also attempted to play with Deleuze in learning theory (video on him is coming in the summer series) but it's difficult to apply in the current systemic limitations of education
I love Fisher. As I read Capitalist Realism I constantly found myself saying, yes, yes, yes. However, there is one rather depressing possibility that seems to horrify everyone too much to consider: that Fukyama is right (albeit with a twist). Around the world I only see capitalism growing in strength, and not, as my comrades would have it, because of some great US imperialist conspiracy. People really, really want it. However, they also want their old reactionary values. The naive neo-liberal notion that as nations got richer that they would all turn into liberal democracies is nonsense. I was a travel writer for a long time. I met people in all parts of the world. They want to be rich, they want Levis and McDonalds and everything else, but they also very much want religion, traditional gender roles, patriotism and their tribe. The two are not incompatible. China is probably the best example - as it has gotten richer it has only become more nationalistic and less socially liberal. But the same is happening in other parts of Asia (eg Indonesia, India under Modi), Africa (Uganda) and the Middle East (eg. Turkey, Egypt). In short, I see no appetite for the kind of universalism championed by Fisher. It is not that we cannot imagine an alternative to Capitalism, but rather that the alternative is already here and that it's much scarier than than we might have imagined - it's the Medieval period with nuclear weapons.
I would call it Diluted Fascism, but that works too.
good stuff, The Posthumously Published "Post Capitalist Desire" is probably the best thing to give and Idea of Acid Communism. A large section of the work involves deconstructing the nuclear family, in a not dissimilar way to the work of R.D. Laing
That's why we have so many damn remakes! Retro movements. It all makes so much sense. It's also why when I talk to Red Pill/Black Pill people they seem ignorant/defend the capitalist system even though that is the cause of most of their problems.
As a poor person, I'm not the biggest fan of capitalism, but what is the alternative?
Looking too deeply is painful.
Would be cool to not call Our Generation's Shit retro
First video I've seen of yours and am thoroughly impressed with how well you drew out the key points. Keep up the good work and I look forward to subscribing and watching more.
Im writing a paper on fisher and his thought right now (concentating mainly on Postcapitalist Desire, his newest book) and I have to thank you for this video, it has been a great help! Made sorting everything out much easier
Thank you for watching and glad it helped! I'd be interested in reading your thesis when it's done. It sounds like it has anti-œdipus references
@@SimplePhilosophyReeceGoscinski yeah you are right! although unfortunately english isn’t my first language and i’m writing it in polish. but i’ll send you an english summary when i’m done, if you are interested. I also wanted to say that I really like your channel, your videos are great introductions to certain concepts.
@@zuzannabakuniak1840 nie potrafię dobrze mówić po polsku 😞 but I have been trying to learn! Haah
An English summary would be great!
@@SimplePhilosophyReeceGoscinski hahah ale idzie dobrze! polish is really difficult for foreigners i think. I’ll send you english version in that case. Now when i’m thinking about it ‘desire’ in this book is mostly connected to lyotards and lacans interpretations but there is a bit of anti-oedipus there as well
appreciate the rundown, i've been having a lot of focus issues lately so reading a lot of texts is a struggle for me. you're not the same as sitting down and doing a ton of reading myself, but i'll take what I can get, and you've helped jog my memory on vampire castle, which I *have* read (and hated lmao)
Very nicely explained.
Thank you for articulating this so clearly and concisely to someone who's new to the "field" -- I have started reading Fisher in German because it's easier for me, but there is much more to him than just his work "Capitalism Realism - Is there no Alternative?". Appreciate the breakdown!
Thank you for this video.
Good analysis. Thanks for this. In answer to your question: I have to say Capialist Realism is real and it’s a bad thing. We are essentially running on a treadmill that keeps increasing in speed but still going nowhere.
It certainly seems to be the case on all sides of the politics spectrum. Out of interest, have you ever hypothesized any solutions?
@@SimplePhilosophyReeceGoscinski I believe William Morris' book News from Nowhere contains clues to building a potentially better, more hopeful future.
@@julianlawrence1648 another good book, I need to cover that at some point on the channel
Thanks - this was really interesting and helpful!
Hit the nail on the head with literally everything
well explained. thanks
I never heard of Fisher. I'm buying his books
Me too.
Fisher is amazin, thanks for the video
Great work
You make me want to read the book again! Thank you!
You should! Fisher is an excellent writer. The K-Punk collection has a diverse range of writing too
@@SimplePhilosophyReeceGoscinski Yes, there's some excellent stuff in it. I just ordered his lectures on Repeater Books.
Really nice breakdown!
Cheers appreciate it!
Great vids!!
Things will change when we realize we have to pay for the system we have because, as it is organized, bill aren't due anytime soon.
If the highest official at the Fed says that money is a mousse click moving between accounting tables, then why need we worry? No one sees money. And that's the matrix in fact; it's not code, it's actually the financial system.
Nice video
Thanks
still love it!!
Great video. I think the best example Fisher lays out for capitalist realism is Children of Men but also Michael Mann's Heat
Very true, he uses Children of Men in the book.
@@SimplePhilosophyReeceGoscinski such a great opening to the text. If you haven't already, you might also check out his k-punk blog post 'coffee bars and internment camps' where he discusses his thoughts on Children of Men more in-depth
Also I love that you included Exiting the Vampire Castle in this video
@@Joe-ol5bq oh yes brilliant essay! The observation of authoritarianism merging with capital is becoming very prophetic.
I had to include Vampires Castle as I work in education haha, but I wish I'd have included "the weird and eerie" towards the end but didnt think people would watch for over an hour
I also love the K-Punk music reviews too, especially Drake and Sleaford Mods
thats a great video
Thanks! Appreciate it
The whole Kurt Cobain realizing he was a commodity, and that a protest against MTV is the best thing for MTV, and that even realizing that was a cliche, and then even killing himself was a cliche, he was predicted just like every generation from the 90's, their every move.
@15:02 "Goodface" lmao
Oh Lucky Man!
What book does this quote by the way?
Capitalist Realism and the K-Punk collection
the apocalypse is pure potentiality, world without end
Stimulating ideas. Thanks for exposing an unfamiliar thinker of the recent time.
When I'm trying to pen some sci-fi(near future) story ideas, aside from the easily imaginable dystopian future, it's hard to imagine a future that is stable where a story can even take place. It seems like we're in for WW3 and there's no avoiding it. I'm not saying things will get better, but it seems like the system needs to die before something takes it's space. I'm praying AI will prevent war, but a lot would call me an optimist.
Sadie Plant, not Plat.
Darksouls 3 is a post-modern game.
As this is the first video in a while I did a short reflection on my blog too :)
reecegoscinski.wordpress.com/2021/01/01/mark-fisher-no-future-simple-philosophy/
What's your thought on this in regards to the black pill/red pill movement among young men?
Interesting. Yeah, I agree with most of this, except for the solution. It's plain weird and it's about... art?! I see nothing bad about communism 2.0, either. And by communism I mean, among other things, a kind of system where prices are regulated to eliminate any inflation, just like the USSR used to do (and with great success). Imo it's the only way to disempower capitalists and their parasitism on the rest of society. Inflation is their major tool of power. For example, when the government raises pensions, businessmen raise prices, I've seen that plenty and I've talked to a few (Question: Why is this cake so much more expensive since today? Answer: The pensions just got raised!) This tool creates a vicious circle of perpetual poverty for the majority, whereas the businessmen thrive.
And today we can see how amidst of the global economical crisis the businesses thrive more than ever by using the crisis as an excuse to raise their prices extremely high. In my country a few investigations into that has happened already, it was found that there was no sufficient reason for the huge price raise, and businesses were forced to drop the exorbitant prices, for example, for the chicken. However there are a lot more overpriced products, you can't investigate them all. If anything, the crisis just shows how capitalism really works. Only the naive can still believe that prices have ever been set in a fair way by the magical hand of the market.
Malarkey, saying that there is no other way for culture to progress is ludicrous. Hunter gatherers and tribal cultures probably couldn’t imagine city states either. And it’s possible AI may lead to some unexpected yet positive advances.
Leninist Superego- Mark Fischer misses the real direction of the communist hypothesis, it’s not into the future, but the past, in the form of fidelity to the idea of human emancipation. This is the essentially religious dimension of revolutionary change, in the same way Christian faith requires fidelity to the Truth of Christ s Ressurection.
bah, what's the freakin' point of a so-called leftist that sounds lkke ron desantis? that goes for zizek too