No Time | Mark Fisher | Virtual Futures 2011

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  • @AlchemicalForge91
    @AlchemicalForge91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    so unfair that the realest homies die out early

    • @sealedindictment
      @sealedindictment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no! maybe he’s right. -Phillip Mainlander

    • @AudioPervert1
      @AudioPervert1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So sad and sudden that he committed suicide. Really renegade thoughts and vision.

    • @AlchemicalForge91
      @AlchemicalForge91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Feudal Lord that dude went out like a boss.. standing on his own books before hanging

    • @sealedindictment
      @sealedindictment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe Urban facts!

    • @Stranglerxx77
      @Stranglerxx77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sadly you can tell that he is struggling

  • @hb8213
    @hb8213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    his nervous energy is somehow fitting

    • @InParticularNobody
      @InParticularNobody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Absolutely. Seems like he is physically channelling and conducting all these dystopian truths as he shares the insights with us.

    • @Stranglerxx77
      @Stranglerxx77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hare Krishna yes he looks like he is in the vampire castle

  • @ujean56
    @ujean56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Absolutely brilliant evaluation of the dystopia breaking out around us. What a huge loss that both Fisher and Graeber have died. We desperately need intellectuals like Fisher to carry on and continue to narrate and explain the nightmares of the now. Fisher's lectures are critical for anyone attempting to come to terms with the digital hell we are all being forced into.

    • @slimbroski5335
      @slimbroski5335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True. They both were absolute legends! Their work and everything they have given us is indescribable. We are very lucky to have their ideas in this format to listen to and hopefully learn from. RIP David Graeber and Mark Fisher. They both will be remembered and they both did so much for our species. Thanks for everything. 🙏

    • @subjectt.change6599
      @subjectt.change6599 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fisher didn’t die. He killed himself. I guess he figured his TIME was up.

    • @kehana2908
      @kehana2908 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@subjectt.change6599 what the fuck that was an awful joke please don't make it
      i did laugh a little though.

  • @superdeluxesmell
    @superdeluxesmell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I’d like to have known Mark personally, I’d say he was a fascinating conversationalist. He’s always struggling to get the ideas out as they rush into his head.

  • @faithful5361
    @faithful5361 8 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    "in the West instead we have this banal capitalism, dominated not by a kind of ever-mutating digital dance floor culture but by sort of the neurotisizing mechanisms of social media or social networks" - RIP Mark Fisher

    • @pn5721
      @pn5721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      On first hearing I thought it said necrotizing mechanisms of social media!

    • @televikkuntdaowuxing
      @televikkuntdaowuxing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      P N Also kind of relatable lol, Necro-neuronyism

  • @hannahl8081
    @hannahl8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    5:19 - nightmare topology
    6:58 - public domain
    11:24 - cyber depression
    13:20 - everything has changed but nothing has really happened
    14:50 - they've changed everything, but only at the level of consumption and distribution, not on the level of content and culture...
    15:25 - a growing sense of digital communicative malaise
    16:47 - we are the subjects of an experiment which no one is consciously really conducting
    17:00 - electro libidinal parasite
    18:00 - who has got control of time here? how have they got control of it? cultural determinism, technology isn't enough on its own to deliver new culture
    21:10 - shocking banality of the first decade of the 21st century, atemporality in the most banal way
    23:20 - restoration culture vs contemporary futurism
    24:00 - banal capitalism dominated by the neuroticizing methods of social networks
    26:40 - switch from fordism to post-fordism and precarity which is intensified by digital media
    28:40 - postmodernism vs atemporality, novelty (bruce sterling)
    29:40 - pastiche, retrospection, nostalgia mode (fredric jameson)
    30:38 - pastiche: lack of certainty at economic+political level so you reach to older culture as reassurance, unmappability of the modern world and capitalist city that intensifies in a hyperdigitalized world so again seek reassurance in older forms of culture
    31:50 - going back as a strategy of defeat, neoliberalism owns the structure of time pre-2008
    32:42 - when ideology historically collapses there is another one to take its place, but there is nothing like that now: neoliberalism is still carrying on even though it's dead
    33:26 - ideological vacuum
    34:07 - practical precarity as the future
    34:40 - broader problem of winning back time, ethics of the self and discipline (michel foucault)
    34:56 - escape into trances again, 90s vision of the internet, loss of attention and ability to be in a trance
    35:48 - digital psychedelia, dilation of time instead of harried sense of time

  • @CC3GROUNDZERO
    @CC3GROUNDZERO 8 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    20:09 _"I don't know what messages I've got, but at least the phone does."_
    Interpassivity.

    • @JokkeDotH
      @JokkeDotH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know that I am not corn on the cob, but does the chicken know it?

    • @JS-dt1tn
      @JS-dt1tn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JokkeDotH ha!

  • @BurningPandama
    @BurningPandama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    12:30 "there is a sense that everything has changed, but nothing has really happened"

  • @Leonard_Bast
    @Leonard_Bast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The highest profile person I've seen giving a lecture with that affect where, at times, they sound like they are simultaneously on the verge of crying and throwing up. As a highly anxious person, nice to see to not feel alone, but also wish it didn't have to be that way for either of us.

  • @せんちゃん-t3k
    @せんちゃん-t3k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    本でしか知らない彼に逢えて幸せな気持ちです。ありがとう!

  • @guttularaja
    @guttularaja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I agree with him 100% but I am also glad that youtube exists so this talk could be delivered to me sitting here in Calcutta, not Warwick. I'm unable to imagine how I can adopt a positive relationship with technology.

    • @cabbagectrl
      @cabbagectrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      By changing your ideology your relationship towards technology can also change. The problem here is obviously capitalism and not technological progress itself.

    • @DystopianDeepDives
      @DystopianDeepDives 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cabbagectrl loolllll imagine thinking that the two aren't codependent

    • @cabbagectrl
      @cabbagectrl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DystopianDeepDives They are not codependent at all, people don't need capitalism to make things. Capitalism is just there to exploit the surplus value of all work. It stifles innovation rather than it fuels it.

    • @dx7tnt
      @dx7tnt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The second statement seems to negate the first statement. Being glad this talk is available to watch at any time in Calcutta is indicative of a fairly positive relationship with technology. There's no other means of accessing it otherwise, and without technology it would have faded into the aether unheard rather than being watched by tens of thousands of people.

    • @funbarsolaris2822
      @funbarsolaris2822 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DystopianDeepDives Of course they're not. Are you so small minded as to think humanity will never have another socio-economic system? Of course we will our system has changed even since this speech was given, it will change much more over a hundred years and technology and science will progress under that new system just as it did in the systems before capitalism. Use brain please

  • @nicklandable
    @nicklandable 11 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Had the luck to see Mark Fisher in person, for the Death of Rave talk awhile back, here in Berlin. It was incredible.

    • @superdeluxesmell
      @superdeluxesmell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I always think there’s something funny about ‘seeing’ academics ‘live’. I often find myself referring to the time I went to a Zizek lecture. 😂 I suppose it’s more appropriate for Mark than most though, given his work.

    • @peterlauch6172
      @peterlauch6172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@superdeluxesmell can you explain fischer's appeal to me?
      I find it hard to watch any of his talks for more than 10 minutes.

    • @alexehlke707
      @alexehlke707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@peterlauch6172 It’s his writing and thoughts, not the spoken presentation of them... check Weird & Eerie

    • @iwouldprefernotto4381
      @iwouldprefernotto4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@peterlauch6172 I think it's that a lot of popular theory now falls easily into a culture or politics bracket. Fisher was attempting to do something more ambitious - to explore the "feel" of being alive in the modern world, exploring the culture that seemingly offered a way out of our present moment or was a dead end, and then explaining why the idea of replacing our system with something new seemed such a monumental task (despite a global economic crash and a pandemic that has exposed how dysfunctional our political setup is).
      If you've not read it already, I'd start with Capitalism Realism but the really good stuff is in his K-Punk blogs, which are now available as a book.

    • @breandadavis3168
      @breandadavis3168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@peterlauch6172 understand why you might feel that way, his nervous energy can seem a bit offputting but I like to think that maybe it's just because we're so used to seeing overly produced and perfected people and speeches and performances that that is the case. Polished is what we're accustomed to and things that arent "camera ready" so to speak, seem a bit weird or amateurish. But if you've read his writings. **chef's kiss**

  • @itsChaisoo
    @itsChaisoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks Matty

  • @theyliveglasses4667
    @theyliveglasses4667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That little Land/death drive pun was amazing. I only found out about Fisher a few weeks ago and I already miss him.

  • @lastmatch1111
    @lastmatch1111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    May Mark's sensitive, thoughtful soul RIP

  • @momo-dm3rw
    @momo-dm3rw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The man who asked the right question.

  • @lewis1902
    @lewis1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    "Watch later"

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      'Favourites.'

    • @socialswine3656
      @socialswine3656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lmao clever

    • @g-nHastur
      @g-nHastur 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now!

    • @TeatroGrotesco
      @TeatroGrotesco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Darn, I missed out on the prediction of a lost future and now I have forgotten the memories of my nostalgia for the lost opportunity I never really had or believed in.
      Better move the video to favorites.

    • @matthewglenguir7204
      @matthewglenguir7204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Liked"

  • @juvenalhahne7750
    @juvenalhahne7750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Também vou assistir depois! A quantidade de vídeos que tenho recebido de Mark Fisher me tem impressionado, mas até agora, confesso, não tenho aproveitado quase nada além da visível emoção com que ele fala... Parece sempre estar improvisando, incapaz de controlar um fluxo de ideias que se atropelam como se não conseguisse terminar uma frase pulando para a seguinte e assim sucessivamente...
    Ele me enerva pois quero compreender sua angústia mas não ao preço de me angustia também..

  • @nickm.5931
    @nickm.5931 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “I'm happiest when I'm doing something that I know is good.” -1984, by George, or, well…
    “What is happiness? It’s a moment before you need more happiness!” -Patrick Batman

  • @Joe-ol5bq
    @Joe-ol5bq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If anyone has a transcript of this talk it would be the best thing ever

    • @VirtualFutures
      @VirtualFutures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We will work on getting this onto our website.

    • @dx7tnt
      @dx7tnt ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just click on the three dots at the bottom of the video - (...) and then click 'Show Transcript' - TH-cam gives a fairly helpful attempt at a transcript.

  • @joelkaranikas7314
    @joelkaranikas7314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the realest thing you'll ever hear.

  • @jcoltrane8976
    @jcoltrane8976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fisher embodied his philosophy and criticism-certainly a man of conviction who literally proved the dissociative nature of time.

  • @chromaticfrog7407
    @chromaticfrog7407 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12 years later, Mark’s words are still ringing true.

  • @danno633
    @danno633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Everything has changed but nothing has really happened"

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Some of Mark Fisher's far-out takes did come true. spot on. Today we see millions of zombies on zoom .. Pretending to change things and work...

  • @shiretsu
    @shiretsu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    nice, can't wait for generations to come to study how time stopped just like we did
    I for one am grateful that alan watts is in my up next sidebar

  • @4merthxt721
    @4merthxt721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    the realness.

  • @petpaltea
    @petpaltea 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    15:14 - Ever increasing speed of "communicative capitalism" - Slowing/retarded/cyclical time of culture.
    20:45 - "The banality of the inferno in which we are in." (E.g. constant need to check your phone, even while driving - new death drive: we are risking our lives over the most shocking banality.) (25:03 - "It's typical for teenagers to spend up to an hour composing an SMS text message ... just to ensure they get the right level of nonchalance.")
    25:40 - Switch from fordism to post-fordism. → 26:08 - Precarity (Berardi - Bifo). → 26:32 - "Digital communication media have clearly played a major part in intensifying the preassures of precarity." → 26:47 - "It's archaic to even talk about a workplace not. As soon you have e-mail then you no longer have working hours." - This is what MF means by "banal inferno".
    27:20 - Atemporality (Bruce Sterling): (27:45) atemporality that is beyond the end of history and also beyond postmodernity. (29:09) Sterling's atemporality is an exaggeration and intensification of the features of post-modernism.

    29:29 - Nostalgia mode (Fredric Jameson): emphasis on pastiche and retrospection in post-modernism (as one of characteristics of it). (29:42) Nostalgia mode is not "psychological nostalgia" but a kind of formal nostalgia: (30:14) all of the formal elements (of artwork, film, etc.) are showing different period, but the fact that they (formal elements) came out of different period is not acknowledged.

    30:30 - Why "retrospection" and "pastiche" becomes such features [in post-modernity]? (Something Jameson never talks about.) - (1) (30:44) Psychological motivation: reaching for older forms of culture as a form of reassurance.

    31:44 - What is the way out of this? → (32:00 "Who is it that owns the sense of time which we live?") → 33:35 - The way out will have to be via precarity. (Who wants to work in a factory for 40 years?) (Berardi and others pointed out that precarity was originally a positive term.) - "How do we get the precariousness that we wanted in the first place?" → 34:40 - "It's a broader problem of winning back time."

  • @kyledrums
    @kyledrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Recently I went shopping in a mall for the first time in a long time. The music from the sound system was modern hits but track after track sounded identical to something 35+years ago.

    • @Joe-ol5bq
      @Joe-ol5bq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hauntology

    • @yoooohooooo
      @yoooohooooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      whilst everyone styled like our generation and cultures from our childhoods, teens, and into adulthoods

  • @dovic86
    @dovic86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can literally hear the cameraman casting voodoo spells to Mark while he keeps pacing, forcing the poor man to endure an endless, trance-inducing pan from right to left and viceversa

  • @user-wo5bp2oi5c
    @user-wo5bp2oi5c 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It’s true. I feel like I’m interacting with clones at times.

    • @JohnTaylor-fh4et
      @JohnTaylor-fh4et 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep. Talk about anything out of the allowed Order and boing. Their gone.

  • @matrixInvader
    @matrixInvader 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @18:00, the "cult of determinism":
    It is a forgone conclusion that forcing everyone to be continuously affixed to a handheld computer at all times, simply because it has come into existence, must automatically be a self-justified good, progress, "correct". The underlying assumption being that anything new, if it is technology at least, automatically gets social endorsement, submission to it, simply for now existing. If an even newer technology unfolded which forced everyone into floating pods and proved to 'save the environment'.. well then it MUST be adopted, endorsed, promoted, simply because it didn't exist before and now it does.

  • @Charlie-xj2qy
    @Charlie-xj2qy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And: Phenomenology of the end by Bifo is a good book that deals with some of the topics in here.

  • @dinnerwithfranklin2451
    @dinnerwithfranklin2451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent talk

  • @missScarlatine
    @missScarlatine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fisher on his other lectures: conventionally dressed in mostly black
    Fisher in that lecture: rolled out of bed in a red printed tee shirt. Home boy had an intense night before.

  • @danksheev66
    @danksheev66 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    around 2:12 Jerma described it quite well with what became "We're meant to be threshing wheat and dying of smallpox" not i.e. playing ULTRAKILL or anything lol. I guess taking digital technology and cyberspace to its limit has show us how far the human experience can be enhanced by taking this technology to the absolute limit but slowly liberating it perhaps? Postcapitalist desire is becoming far more interesting in the 2020s.

    • @cowboyblazer112
      @cowboyblazer112 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And there’s no difference. That’s what is sad.

  • @hans1187
    @hans1187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So what if the changes that happened in the 20th century were extraordinary, with every decade overthrowing the previous one culturally and politically? What if that is not what "time" is usually like, what if the centuries experienced by all the people throughout the ages were not always as revolutionary? People fought with swords for thousands of years. They used carts pulled by animals for thousands of years. They used candle light and torches for thousands of years. Mabye we are just nostalgic about the relentless speed of the 20th century because we have a misunderstanding of what time is usually like.

    • @liam314
      @liam314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, I had a similar thought. Its clear that the pace of culture change in the 20th century was an anomaly in history, which seemed to have been driven by the development of analog communications technology, radio, tv, and vinyl records (i.e. the 2nd industrial revolution) and then came to a grinding halt with the advent of the digital age (the 3rd industrial revolution). Much of Mark's work focused on the question of why the digital age caused such a dramatic slowdown in the creation of new cultural forms. I don't think anybody has provided a satisfactory answer. In any case, we now stare down the barrel of the brave new world of the 4th industrial revolution. One wonders what horrifying pathologies will manifest from the augmented, cyberized, A.I. controlled society we now enter in to.

    • @TheRocknrollmaniac
      @TheRocknrollmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is the usual contraargument. Easy to retort. Look at the statistics about social network usage - especially adolescents - more than 4,5,6 hours per day. Virtually doing anything else is better. Doing nothing, being bored (Fischer would like this) , talking to oneself , reminiscing, doing some imagination ... to think that these activities were the activities of a lazy person is crazy. Now no one is bored , no one is doing nothing. The trick is, that is sometimes the time when good ideas come to the world. Good ideas cannot come when you check your social network for n-th time per day.
      I was very dumb back in the day and all I did was hang out with people and smoke weed. But even this seems better than what adolescents are doing now. We actually talked and laughed and forgot about our phones for a while

    • @hans1187
      @hans1187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRocknrollmaniac I don't really see your point. I even agree that doing "nothing" is better than doing something heteronomous. One of the things I get from Fisher is that our current system is distorting our perception of time.

    • @TheRocknrollmaniac
      @TheRocknrollmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hans1187 That's right, Fisher does talk about time. Heteronomous can be nearly anything, what do you mean by that? Fisher talks about our perception of time but goes further of course. Here he approaches the "progress" critically and rightfully says that any opinion that goes contrary to the one you have : "isn't the current situation of tech zombies just a sign of progress?" is labeled reactionary and anti tech - I am not anti tech, but I am anti-social network as these things have long ago become an economic tool. Each minute you spend there can be monetized. It is thus economically viable to for companies and social networks that receive money from these companies to try and make people stay online as long as possible.
      That's what all social networks now do. And they appeal specifically to teens as they still don't have the self control to say : "wow I really don't need to check my phone for 100th time in a day". It's not just the appeal either. It's a very careful strategy based on psychological research - social networks for instance use the so-called regime conditioning where the proportion of reward/no reward is varied to achieve max conditioning (read: addiction).
      It is actually anti-progress. Back in the day we believed that the Internet will lead to higher consciousness and maybe even to a sort of collective consciousness. Now we see how wrong we were. This is not higher consciousness, this is the psychology of the masses - but now online. All the makings of psychology of masses are there: loss of individualism, loss of critical reason, loss of self control.
      Back in the day they used toothpastes with uranium because uranium was so new and modern and shiny. After a while they realized it kills people. I think this is a much better comparison than the one you mentioned. The Internet is the lighttorch. Compulsive use of social networks is not. We have yet to see the consequences of such a use in kids who spend 7+ hours a day on social networks. Is it surprising that ADHD is on the rise? Is it surprising that we have more and more children's mental health disorders that are essentially "spoled kids syndrome".

    • @hans1187
      @hans1187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRocknrollmaniac I'm not making a case for social networks or anything that is currently sold as "progress" in my original statement. It's more that it seems what we have lost in the 20th century is exactly this natural understanding of time, to do "nothing", to contemplate, to fill our free time with things that are not dictated externally. Technology plays a part in this most likely. Marks somewhere says that we have to regain our sense of time. I'm not an english speaker so I had to google the translation of "fremdbestimmt" and it came up with "Heteronomous", which would be the opposite of autonomous.

  • @samp7354
    @samp7354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "everything has changed but nothing has really happened"

  • @paulray494
    @paulray494 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you.

  • @BobJones-m6n
    @BobJones-m6n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Way before his time. This is more true than ever.

  • @LaZanyarr
    @LaZanyarr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Exactly the person to say what i knew but didnt have the words for. Why did he commit suicide :(

    • @Maziedivision
      @Maziedivision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He had depression but he had such an astute sharply accurate view of the world and our impending doom towards late stage capitalism that I suppose the reality of what’s to come was too much for him to bare. He’s definitely a voice for the post ideological millennial generation , a mirror of how fucked up our world is .

  • @shrewdagency6588
    @shrewdagency6588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Watched this on my 📱
    Obvs
    😬

    • @TheRocknrollmaniac
      @TheRocknrollmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing wrong with that. Just do not let it get into your day

  • @nickmarks604
    @nickmarks604 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Stop making sense

  • @icecreamforcrowhurst
    @icecreamforcrowhurst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason he reminds me so much of Terry Jones

  • @forecast_hinderer
    @forecast_hinderer ปีที่แล้ว

    @20:50 you can’t enjoy being in a club (or at least the way you used to). From Schoom to Boiler Room.

    • @ttllymxico
      @ttllymxico 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

  • @davidbae2279
    @davidbae2279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:00 electro what parasite?

    • @liam314
      @liam314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Electro libidinal parasite". or as he was famous for saying "libeedinal" ;) But he was correct, thats exactly what our electronic devices are.

  • @veramarquesalves7744
    @veramarquesalves7744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "A time of no time"

  • @lochlandoyle8158
    @lochlandoyle8158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ‘Banal inferno’

  • @cuerpo.invertido
    @cuerpo.invertido ปีที่แล้ว

    Brillante!

  • @twanjon9614
    @twanjon9614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ‘Nightmare topology’

  • @rustinl8810
    @rustinl8810 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we please release more recoding of virtual futures? Dying to see lands recording

  • @MrDruplicon
    @MrDruplicon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the t-shirt he is wearing?

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

  • @subjectt.change6599
    @subjectt.change6599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn’t he opt out of time, completely?

  • @DonnieDarko1
    @DonnieDarko1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    30:32

  • @ghostknock7663
    @ghostknock7663 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a nightmare we live in

  • @doom7692
    @doom7692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rip

  • @TFCxAddict
    @TFCxAddict 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:00

  • @pauljones5066
    @pauljones5066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    he is very nervous for the first 1/3 of this

    • @superdeluxesmell
      @superdeluxesmell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Paul Jones Nothing wrong with being nervous.

    • @hastiestone3951
      @hastiestone3951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wouldn’t you be nervous if you went ‘round explaining to people that we all have a type of brain-worm that’s eating the planet (and us) alive?

    • @pauljones5066
      @pauljones5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hastiestone3951 yes just saying straight into conflict mode

  • @karlm7324
    @karlm7324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really like Fisher but I feel like he underestimated the growth of hip hop as a shift in culture, like, rap was no where big in 96 as it was in 2011 even.

    • @ownedbymykitty270
      @ownedbymykitty270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      The hip hop of the 2010s is far more watered down and corporatized than the than the 80s and 90s.

    • @ryanbenson4610
      @ryanbenson4610 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with Karl M in that hip hop is now corporate but it has changed from 80s and 90s. Although it’s always been a music genre that sampled heavily from other genres and itself so who knows.

    • @metatron5199
      @metatron5199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Fisher has commented directly on that issue, he mentions drake and how his music is like an electric downer haze which is clear shift that has been seen across the board in hip hop today.....

    • @superdeluxesmell
      @superdeluxesmell 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it matter how ‘big’ it is? I’m not sure that’s what he’s getting at.

    • @romanlouche3702
      @romanlouche3702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And...?

  • @noncuro9303
    @noncuro9303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    на кого ж ти нас покинув?((

    • @TheRocknrollmaniac
      @TheRocknrollmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Шта кажеш брат ништа те не разумем

  • @nowaylon2008
    @nowaylon2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everything has changed and nothing has really happened. Maybe true until about 2016.

  • @chinaboi9032
    @chinaboi9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrifying viewpoint.

  • @DavidWaterhouse100
    @DavidWaterhouse100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Considering how much worse this has got in the last 10 years is unbearably bleak.

  • @calebrichardson9573
    @calebrichardson9573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ndt replaces caffeine

  • @DystopianDeepDives
    @DystopianDeepDives 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lies, texting takes more time than a simple phone call

  • @subjectt.change6599
    @subjectt.change6599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is everyone denying Fisher’s suicide?

  • @shisitoo6849
    @shisitoo6849 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yyds

  • @TheRocknrollmaniac
    @TheRocknrollmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:40 a small innacuracy- no one keeps phones in a bag now

  • @LucBoeren
    @LucBoeren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this at 1,5x speed

  • @virtue_signal_
    @virtue_signal_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy is a really huge down or he needs to find Jesus or Budd a.

    • @DAVA653
      @DAVA653 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's dead.

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      or stoicism, unfortunately he ended it all before finding such knowledge

    • @DAVA653
      @DAVA653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @darillus1 stoicism is pro-suicide. Literally the "just kys bro" if life gets too hard philosophy. Either way, Fisher was a philosophy lecturer. I'm sure he had read plenty of Stoic lit during his first year of uni. Also Marcus Aurelius was a cuckold (his wife was having an open affair on him with a gladiator) who spent his life waging wars in Europe that really, in the end, didn't do much for his empire except keep him busy from meddling with it and he raised a sociopath for a son. Why do modern "stoics" keep trying to get the guy taken seriously? Maybe you can answer that.

    • @DAVA653
      @DAVA653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @darillus1 stoicism is pro offing urself literally the "just k*s bro" if life gets too hard philosophy. Either way, Fisher was a philosophy lecturer. I'm sure he read plenty of stoicism during his first year at uni. Also, Marcus Aurelius was a cuckold (an actual one like his wife was having a well known affair with a gladiator) who spent his reign waging wars of aggression and raised a spoilt sociopath for a son. Why do modern "stoics" keep trying to get the guy taken seriously? Maybe you can answer that.

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DAVA653 you seem to be referring to Aurelius' bio, rather than his actual philosophy, more over Epictetus would be the one to read, also he could have gained some grounding from Cynicism, honestly anything's better than getting so depressed over capitalism that you what to ended it all

  • @peterlauch6172
    @peterlauch6172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He would have been less depressed had he worked a factory or mine
    But no
    Write about how life sucks add an capitalist asterisk that's how to fix things
    Before saving the world you must first save yourself

    • @gerontion1011
      @gerontion1011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Have you been addicted to benzodiazepines lately?

    • @peterlauch6172
      @peterlauch6172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gerontion1011 i take them recreationally

    • @TheRocknrollmaniac
      @TheRocknrollmaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Peter Lauch hhahahah man that sounds boring. Anyways I got the same feeling. He squeezes in some complaints about being a professor in the modern world not getting enough money from the gov etc. The life is soo hard soo hard. It is not surprising that this man was depressed. However he is mainly right unfortunately. What he should have mentioned is how his own experience shapes these viewpoints and that in the end this is a very subjective viewpoint from a person who struggles to find meaning in this world - nothing wrong with that , just sayin.
      Often the most sensitive and disturbed persons are able to really feel what is going on and to see what will happen. Like Kafka. This guy is not that far, especially when we see that it is getting worse and worse.

    • @ripper2045
      @ripper2045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you like lobsters?

  • @Joe-ol5bq
    @Joe-ol5bq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:30