★ ESA / PIP TRIBUNAL: Walkthrough Advice (My Experience with Tory Disability Benefit Cuts & ATOS)
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- ★ ESA / PIP TRIBUNAL: Walkthrough Advice (My Experience with Tory Disability Benefit Cuts & ATOS)
In Today's Project Diary Video I will help and give you a walkthrough of the new Employment & Support Allowance (ESA) and Personal Independence Payment (PIP) Tribunal Service.
This is a court system people with mental or physical disabilities are now being bragged through, causing months of stress and anxiety transferring over from Disability Living Allowance (DLA)
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★ VIDEO TIMELINE:
1:06 - ATOS & CAPITA UPDATE
2:00 - TORY CUTS, DEATHS & UK/EU COURTS
2:42 - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DLA & PIP
3:56 - HOW TO GO THROUGH A TRIBUNAL
5:50 - WHAT IS A TRIBUNAL?
7:11 - HOW TO PREPARE
9:05 - WHAT TO WEAR?
10:29 - MEDICATION GOOD or BAD?
11:09 - THINGS TO TAKE
12:10 - ON ARRIVAL
14:08 - MEDICAL DATA & CREDIBILITY or LIES
16:30 - GOING BACK IN TIME
17:11 - TRIBUNAL QUESTIONING
28:00 - FINAL THOUGHTS
30:20 - WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT'S OVER?
31:33 - FLAWS IN THE NEW SCORE SYSTEM
33:00 - DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RATE RESULTS
34:26 - HOW IT CAUSES MENTAL ILLNESS & DEPRESSION
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Thank you for producing and releasing this video. The DWP must face justice for how they've treated benefit claimants! Solidarity x
Blythe Taylor those who insult you for being ill and disabled, and then continue being more and more cruel towards you, will never sleep at night. I feel so bad for these people.
@@monicanath4859 Unfortunately Monica, THESE PEOPLE dont have ANY PROBLEM sleeping at night, I believe that the POWER they hold over us, gives, some, not all, a huge EGO, alas, it is the Disabled People who suffer NOT them.
Indeed Alan-fight your corner compassionately.
amaturraheem self-belief and an organised brain. I had an excellent caseworker this time. It was the deal clincher. After 20 long years, I was finally successful.
PIP ~ Personal Interrogation Persecution .
Oh how true, after I’d been awarded the higher rate Motability and care for lifetime. After Ester McVey etc got involved although I had lots of medical & hospital evidence of my incurable illnesses & disabilities, they kept on asking for more. I think it was a game. At my first interview with a young man who wrote a lot of lies and inaccurate things I was refused all but lower rate Motability. The lady said, you have 25 pieces of evidence like it was a crime, it’s what they asked for. I’ve had so many surgeries ongoing illnesses for 50 yrs. it’s stolen my adult life. I felt so ill and upset Just gave up. I’m housebound and feel cheated.
I cannot believe what you are being put through. It is a complete disgrace. I feel angry for you. Thank you for giving me the heads up on what I will be getting put through soon. People like you give me the strength to keep on fighting this corrupt system.
Bless you for doing this. Its such a lonely and terrifying place to be and videos like this make all the difference. I really hope you feel well soon xxx
I waited 14 months for my hearing during which time depression & Anxiety and increased 10 fold, but you're right, they were not at all interested in the stress it had all caused. I COMPLETELY broke down! dribbling cabbage stylee....I won, at which point I almost collapsed. These people are vile, but justice prevailed and life is now almost back to normality...and HEY I'm growing stuff which is how I found your awesome channel..thx x
Anxiety lololoolool
Yawn Guy what’s funny about anxiety? absolute moron.
@@dreamlessdemand I've been to the stage of the op from anxiety caused by pain and a fault in my organs. I can tell you, having on of the most painful conditions known to mankind, that the anxiety is by far the worst,
@@luketams5513 i don’t doubt that mate. i’m sorry to hear that. pain is a horrible thing. i obviously don’t know what it’s like to be you and feel that pain, but i can empathise with you.
all the best to you.
@@dreamlessdemand Thanks bother, hope you are ok.
I remember before I left the DWP, it was kept quiet but sir Robert devereux was paid a bonus of over £7,000,000 when he retired! Also this is coming from the man who was in favour of raising the retirement age to 68 but retired on his 61st birthday? They are a sneaky the DWP and trust me they treat their employees the same, if not worse than the people claiming benefits!
I've been working on a documentary about the DWP and the Government for the past 2 years going back to 1960s. The manipulation of many systems is utterly disgraceful. When the Tories said the Labour party would take us back to the 70s it almost sounds like a good idea :) haha!
@@ProjectDiaries - I was actually going to suggest you make a documentary about that in the comments. I think you would be a really good documentary filmmaker.
@@baconninja007 This channel is 2 years behind where I really want it to be but working on so many skills. My Greenscreening effect aren't great in this video due to my being in pain but I have 3 amazing documentaries coming soon. My environment plastic documentary has been in the works since this channel started and can't wait to finish it :)
@@ProjectDiaries - That subject really interests me. I have a lot of concerns about plastic in our environment. I have written letters to many local and state officials trying to get plastic bags banned. I have also written some how-to articles on reducing your individual dependence on plastics. None published at this point though, but I am working on that. I myself am working on becoming plastic free. When I tell people how plastics are made, how they can affect your body, and how many places you find plastics that you wouldn't think of ... people are usually pretty shocked. There are some good documentaries on the subject out there, but there needs to be one so well done that it goes viral and really grabs everyone's attention to get them to make changes.
CodGaming what a load of tosh
I find it so interesting how little they care about mental health UNTIL they come up to the “plan you plan a journey” and then all of a sudden it’s important
Hi Sheila what do you mean by " plan you plan a journey"
Submarine Mission And it seems we are all losing valuable points because of it 🤷♀️❗️❗️
Eh? Sorry, I don't get what you mean - please clarify.
@@katrinamackenzie7547 Perhaps pain distracted them and they mistyped. It happens. Perhaps they're human, unlike most of the employees within this evil system.
What a nightmare! I'm so glad that you're on the other side of it Lee (finally!) . That system is cruel and inhumane - the designers of it should be locked up. On a happier note, it's great to see you on TH-cam again - we miss you. More importantly, we all want your health to improve so you can be your real self without pain. You are strong, witty and a light in the dark Lee and I , for one, want to say thank you.
Thanks Jules! I just wanna get back in the garden and be myself again asap!
Absolutely agree.
Priti Patel wanted 30 per week stopped for the disabled on pip. She wants to bully them into a 0 hrs job. They cannot override a Doctors prognosis so an appeal is inevitable. So so wrong.
@@wleon4068 they should be hung for all the suffering they've caused
@@preciousdevere288 she's an evil witch
Atos screwed me. It put me off from claiming before and this confirms why. No way could I go through this. No way. No wonder people are topping themselves.
The only way to get what you are entitled to is to fight. Start the process….. and fight until the end. I have been waiting 18 months. And my tribunal is tomorrow.
I have fibromyalgia for several years and stress anxiety activates a flare-up and makes me bedbound. I'm sooo grateful I don't have to seek this evil systems assistance 🙏 my hubby for now earns enough for both of us,but his health is starting to deteriorate too. Love n peace to all
What an absolute appalling disgusting system this tory government have brought in. The ridiculous questions they ask you are designed to have you fail. My partner has been through it all and had to also go to a tribunal. He did win it at higher rate after dwp said he were fit for work etc. He is going on 64 and has only this week had his first heart attack which I think was down to all the stress hes endured for months waiting for this tribunal. Hope you get your higher rate which you thoroughly deserve and 2019 is a better year for you. P.S - Stuff the haters as all just trolls anyway.
It was Labour that brought in the work capability assessments in the Torys just made it worse.
Hi...respect to u for your comments? My dad has had 2 heart attacks an the system says u r fit for work? Aged 64 had a triple bypass for goodness sake? They told him to sell his house and after all the hardworking people on aka normal wages these Tories r scum and ruin families, then wonder y society is as it is? The system sux less u r blue blood- tru DAT
Beth. I am sorry for you and your husband. Get him on Attendance Allowance.
@@pomgee8854 what exactly is attendance allowance? Look forward to your reply
@shocka dplm Attendance Allowance is the benefit for those disabled over the age of 65. MUCH easier to claim than PIP. Have a look on Google.
Listening to this and reading the comments has literally brought me to tears. You guys deserve so much better. I'm so sorry for you all. It is just plain wrong
As a former CAB rep I'd say send the most relevant medical information you can at reconsideration stage and again at appeal stage if you didn't already have it. Be careful of sending too much as the more there is the easier it is for someone to miss some of the most important details. If you can it is also helpful to have a submission document of no more than 2 or 3 pages long (reps will usually do this if you have one). This basically focuses yourself and the tribunal on A) the conditions you have and B) what points you want to argue. This can make it easier for the tribunal to focus on specific areas and potentially skim over irrelevant areas. Hope this is helpful and all the best.
My heart aches for you. All my best to you!
Thank you so much for this, my partner is currently going through this system and their health has deteriorated because of this. The system is brutal and punishing, making people with illnesses feel like frauds and a burden. Good luck to you I hope we get the result my partner deserves
You are such a hero, thanks for making this video, it's so important to share. The system is obviously unfit for purpose. Wishing you all the best.
You're welcome. It really is :(
Just about to go through my second PIP Assessment with ATOS. I stupidly went on my own before and at Tribunal. This time my mental health worker is going with me, and driving me there and I am recording it. Fingers crossed. Not sleeping with anxiety. Ashamed to be British in such a cruel and inhumane system.
Let's be real? Ppl with no arms & legs are running marathons & Conquering mount everest with prosthetic legs & prosthetic arms. Its either you're too damn lazy?
@Buffalo 66 Take this L.
I hope it went ok for you. I've got two words for the "doctor" troll who commented on your comment Laura. One of them is "off". Actually no, I have a few more words for them. I hope that a severe disability befalls them so that they can fully appreciate how difficult things are for people. I guess we'll look forward to seeing the doc on the telly running a marathon immediately after that severe disability befalls them eh.
@@MrJamiez yeah people with no arms and legs can have a 'fix' to their condition, and therapy to be able to do that. Evident by the fact they can run marathons. Try telling someone with a disease that means they can't even move without vomiting's and passing out. People that have been tortured by insane pain so much they lose their mind and don't even know what's real or fake anymore.
@@MrJamiez Ignorant AF. Completely illogical argument. It’s not even slightly the same or comparable.
my big problem is not just my physical problems but the fact that I'm on the autism spectrum. Having to leave my home and go somewhere unfamiliar already puts my stress levels high. Stick me in a waiting room with strangers and I'm well on the way to a meltdown, probably in tears already and that's before I get seen! It is literally mental torture .
have a much better new year! much better health!!!, pure joy , pure love. bless. and happy holidays.
Much appreciated! Merry Festivities :)
Well done for this video.and being able to talk so clearly and calmly about such an emotionally taxing process..I am going to show my friend who has just been told her DlA is stopping. People like her are inclined to just give up and crawl into a hole as the process ahead seems so against you.
Many thanks for this video m8 its relieved some of the anxiety/stress of this process.You're a good bloke,stay strong man ignore the pathetic trolls
You're welcome. Good luck with your claim. :)
I remember truck driving and listening to radio shows on benefit cheats, yes, I joined in on still on not liking benefit cheats but only with the respect to the genuine claiments. If I was involved in a crash and became injured, what will help me out. I hope the trolls & haters take this into consideration.
I am now a carer and live in fear of ATOS and their lies, if the person I care for fails that means I could be working with no sleep, I know I've done it before, 5 days no sleep, work go home and care, back to work etc. I nearly died, I nearly killed, it was so freightening walking to work wondering if I would make it home. We past PIP 4 years ago, I haven't settled since then as we have it to do again. My own health has deteriated over these years living in fear of PIP. It is not a benefit anyone really wants to be on, because of the way they assess it. It's upsetting to fail but just as upsetting to pass too, I broke down in tears last time we passed (after the tribunal). The system just kills people off, pass or fail.... well, thats my view anyway. My advice to anyone who works in a dangerous job is to go do something else instead, should anything happen, the knives are out, don't go thinking there is something to help, just some selfish office worker with a target to reach, pushing you in the wrong direction for their own personal gain. It's a wonder these people have not been targeted themselves, I just hope St. Peter takes note at the gates.
The Government and Media want to create a hype about "Benefit Cheats" to cause a distraction of what back handed business the Torys are really up to. It's a smoke screen as they only found 0.7% of claims to be fraudulent. It really is a gross and misleading World we live in when it comes to topics like this.
Throughout my life recessions have come around in as little as 6 years, Labour managed 12 years, & now it has been 10 years since the last. Guess what's coming around the corner now?
We've got it coming!
Good on you, People need videos like this. Noone should have to go through this rubbish and I am glad you are doing videos help others.
My heart goes out to you. You have done incredible well to present this case of injustice so well. You should feel proud of yourself. Don’t let them grind you down. The system is grossly unfair and just plain wrong. I am 60 years old and have been on flat for 13 years. I am being forced through this transfer to pips myself at present. I have spent the last 4 years dreading the brown envelope. The whole process is making me ill. Many people that knows me have told me that I should have nothing to worry about. But none of them have seen the application form questions. They are arranged in a way that is designed to trap you. This government should be ashamed of themselves. I wish you all the best in the future. Keep fighting on, don’t let them get away with it, Yours Ricky
Thanks Ricky! The worst thing is I've been unable to walk since July and I've heard noting from the DWP since filling out this new form. It's utterly disgusting!
My daughter has had her assessment recently, she has autism. The wait for pip to assess her claim and make their mind up is a nightmare. My biggest fear is she's rejected and I have to go through what you went through. It's like your in limbo waiting for the letter telling you if hell is your destination or not.
My son is nine yr/o he has severe and chronic ADHD, he's currently on Concerta XL 36mg he's on DLA on the highest rate, once he turns 16 it will change over to PIP. According to forums having ADHD while trying to claim PIP is very difficult to get on because ADHD isn't a physical. PIP is for 16 to 64 yr/os. How old is your daughter if you don't mind me asking? If she's 16+ she has to change to PIP. ADHD & Autism kinda Fall under the same category.
I have Spina Bifida and was previously on the higher rate of mobility DLA with a Motability car. I was recently refused PIP and have just submitted my Mandatory Reconsideration evidence. Sounds like I'm on a long and unpleasant journey but watching your videos made me feel less lonely. Thank you.
It's even worse. My first assessment took 3 months just for the first stage and i've been waiting 5 months for this "renewal" It's getting worse, not better but don't lose hope. Keep fighting!
GOOD LUCK JUDITH
Same here, I've got neurofibromatosis & spina bifida, I was on DLA from age 5 now 32, I can't walk for long nor bend over I struggle everyday.
I got a litter from pip saying the usual. Come to the assessment a few weeks Failed me by one point. The assessment lady said that I could bend over and touch my toes she never asked me to do that I sat in the chair the whole time. Pip never offered me a tribunal case I asked but they never sent anything out.........
Thank you so much for your video going from DLA to PIP made me very ill but I won my case in the end
Wish you the very best for 2019. About time you had a bit of quality time. Ignore trolls - they probably should be pitied (not by me though)!
Hi. Your whole story has really touched my heart and will be praying for you. I am disabled and long term ill, and going through the benefits nightmare.... so every sympathy!! Hope and pray God can give you the strength and help to get through this. (No need to reply 🤗)
Thank you Annelise, I always reply when I can. I wish you well and all the best with this bias barbaric system :)
Bring back DLA..!!
DLA was fair too ALL people who had disabilities..
PIP is a one way track to worsening your disabilities because of the disgustingly painful process..
A very very good and well made video,. Making some seriously good points (that are affecting 100,000's). Keep the great work up against this absolute joke of a government and system.
Thanks. It would be hilarious if it wasn't killing 1000s :(
Glad to hear you finally got your benefit. My PIP took about the same amount of time (18mths) and started receiving my payments last month. Unfortunately, my income support was also stopped a year ago and they have only just agreed that was a mistake! Not only am I disabled but I am also a carer for my son who has multiple conditions including autism. It has caused me tremendous stress but I am stubborn lol and I encourage anyone to keep fighting for what your entitled to. Thank you for providing this useful service :)
Well done Jane. Keep at them. Hopefully there will be come big changes in the next few years if there is another election. Just hope Torys aren't voted back in.
I have cried just listening to you. I am shocked . Thank you for sharing. God bless 🙏. Keep strong like you used to. Keep hope. Thank heavens for your Mum and Dad. Bless them.
Here’s to a better 2019! I really hope every county’s medical system improves, it shouldn’t be a second hardship to get medical care. 💜. As always sending great and healthy vibes 💜😊
Brilliant advice, I had my tribunal on Monday and after 16 months, and won. Remember as well not to put of the wording in the letters you receive from the DWP, they've made it this way to seem more intimidating.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I know your efforts will help a lot of people struggling in similar ways. You've helped me. I hope and pray that things become more managable for you. God bless!
to add to your excellent site. ..for people new to pip or esa assesments....you must get into the mindset of people who just want to stop your benefit...read this again and again...
lets say you have limb damage that stops you walking unaided...scars...muscle damage etc.
they ask to see ...so you drop your jeans...shirt and reveal these scars etc...
they are not typing he/she has scars etc. they are actually typing"is able to dress and undress unaided"!!!!
think on like snooker- 3 balls ahead!!!
Bless you. I am going through the pip review. Im so worried. I have Parkinson’s and can’t believe they are assessing me again. You are very brave to go online.
I think it's a joke that they have to review people who's conditions will worsen. Good luck!
It is thoroughly disgusting. My friends 19 year old with Down’s syndrome had two two hour assessments. Ridiculous waste of resources. The lad is quite clearly very disabled.
How can these politicians sleep at night. Misusing hard earned taxpayers money. They know better then average citizens, these politicians should be brought to justice & jail.
grumpy oldman Vast majority are lawyers
Wow I've been through 3 mandatory reconsiderations and a tribunal over 3years. they put me in a sport group for 12 months because I only got 9 points my condition got worse and I still got refused e.s.a 🙁 I have advanced osteoarthritis in my knees and hip, and spondylitis in my back...the system sucks.......great video bro 😊 👍
Thank you so much for doing these thorough videos! Your helping soo many people, don’t listen to the trolls your awesome
Got my date soon and really needed this. Three years since the start. I'm so happy it's finally going to be sorted hopefully
Hey, thanks for making this awesome video, it's really helped settle a few nerves and anxiety before my tribunal next week, I should feel quite confident about my trial but because its dwp I'm an absolute wreck! Fingers crossed it goes well.
Much love x
The DWP scare the life out of me, I'm on ESA & pip for my mental health and blood disorder I'm currently in a mental health hospital for my anxiety after having anxiety attacks about going to hospital I nearly died because of my blood disorder. Tha amount of people who say there's nothing wrong with you because they cant see what I'm going through on the inside. I had an ESA medical questionnaire a few months ago and every day I'm waiting for the Brown envelope
What's your blood disorder is it anemia
My heart goes out to you sweetheart I am so sorry for how they treat you and made you feel I know how they can be with people I don’t have To go again thank god please stay strong and safe x
Thank you for the video. I have my PiP tribunal tomorrow morning over the phone. I'm extremely nervous. I've been waiting for 13 months, and it has been a very tough year. I only suffer from anxiety and depression, so I'm really worried I won't be taken seriously. Your video has been very helpful, and given me a glimmer of hope. Thanks again.
For the 'can you plan a journey?' question, focus on your pain and painkillers interfering with your cognitive abilities, and also your ability to go on the internet. As in, 'I frequently can't plan or follow a journey because my medication means I can't think clearly and my pain makes me unable to focus or use my computer/phone/etc.' Basically, if any of your medication makes you unsafe to drive or operate heavy machinery, that counts as interfering with your ability to think clearly and have safe reaction times and stuff like that. If your pain means you need to stop and manage your paon immediately, and can't focus on your situation around you, you might miss a train/bus, then you can't follow the journey.
I wish you all the best on your next claim. It really does feel like a treadmill. You're great; the system is abusive.
I'm watching this because I'm going to my first PIP tribunal on Friday, so thanks for sharing it; it's been useful to me.
How'd it go
@@krystal8900 I won! Mobility and care components!
@@zelliehtrue was it scary in the room was it a court room?? I'm scared thanks for the reply ✌️
@@krystal8900 It wasn't a court room. It was an old office building. Before we got into the tribunal meeting, we had to pass a simple security check (open your bags, give your names, that kind of thing) and wait in a waiting room with some other people.
When we were called in to the tribunal meeting, it was just a large boring grey and beige office room with a table in it. The three people in the tribunal sat on one side of the table and I and my cousin sat on the other side.
They asked questions in plain ordinary english, no legalese. They didn't need to know my diagnosis, just how badly my symptoms affected me day to day.
After the tribunal meeting, we went back to the waiting room while they made the decision, then they called us back to hear their decision in the same office.
Honestly, the waiting was the worst part. I was very tense. I cried during the tribunal, and one of the three people cried too, when they heard me talking about my symptoms. They were very sympathetic and used to dealing with stressed and anxious people.
Something like 70% of decisions at tribunal go in your favour, remember that. Be polite, don't get angry at them. The system sucks, I know, it's abusive - but it's not their fault. The tribunal people know that the decisionmakers at the Dept. for Workfare and Punishment are incompetent and wrong. That's why you have a 70% chance of winning.
I hope this helps, and I wish you all the best. Good luck!
@@zelliehtrue huge help thank you. I'm just sending of my appeal for an immediate reconciliation thing. I am expecting to go to tribunal and was very nervous thank you for replying to me big stress off my mind ☺️ thanks
Im fed up of it ! I have an ESA medical in 5 days 😱 They are terrible, the only time I had straight success without any appeals was taking my lawyer friend who'd been in over 100's cases with Atos and never lost one !
I spoke to a 'decision maker' 6month ago and she said the DWP has no idea how these claims affect our lives and in many cases me people worse? I'm just hoping I can fill all my drs and hospital letters I sent them in the next few days
Talk about stress !!!!
The highest award is actually 10 years on PIP....which is what I have....great videos👌🏾
Wow! May I ask what your disability and age is?
I’m 38 and a quadriplegic
My OLD D.L.A. award was "INDEFINATE"
All the best from me pal, thank you for uploading your experiences, stay happy and blessed
I was lucky enough to get my ESA and PIP but the whole experience made me super stressed and consequently my illness was much worse for months. Nobody should go through this.
Got my tribunal today thank you for doing this video it’s helped ease my mind a little x
I'm glad. Good luck! :)
I am still fighting for PIP for 20 years almost, and I am appearing in court for the second time soon. I do not like being discriminated against, because I am disabled. They are so rude in the Tribunal.
Monica Nath pip hasn’t been around for 20 years
@@cocochocs3126 she probably means disability benefits in general like dla
Zie Jackson ah
Coco Chocs DLA then!
Update, all! I won my Tribunal. Everything was nicely bashed out in Court. Best wishes to all struggling still! God bless!
I nearly took my own life, because Shelter didn't tell me 2 to bring any evidence to my tribunal.
@Skunky Monk Yer, but ATOS got greedy.
I have been through the same experience I have a long health condition and just had my third assessment my mental heatlh has suffered severly due to this process.I try and stay strong but it gets so hard.but I will keep going. God bless u and take care😊
wow 3rd assesment?
They don't care how much pain your in ,They want us all back at work paying NI ,and Tax . It's about taking money ,and not giving any back
This young man is SO lovely , watching makes me feel less frightened and alone . I just hope I can find the inner strength and courage to fight this corrupt system . Best wishes to everyone who is being shafted by this horrendous government .
You can do it Sue. It's one of the worst legal corporate things I've even encountered. It should be scraped :(
Project Diaries Thank you so much , you are such a comfort and I have gained so much insight and valuable information from your videos . I have written my Mandatory letter , and I will appeal if I have too . The DWP have more than halved my living allowance ( PIP) and stopped my mobility altogether . Previously I was on enhanced living allowance , and
standard disability . It was a huge shock to discover my money had been cut so dramatically until I read the assessors comments and found she had lied , and failed to mention many things I had told her about how my condition affects me . This has cost me valuable points and I am truly shocked and horrified at the way these people treat the most vulnerable in our society . They should just hand us all a gun so we can finish ourselves off 🤷♀️❗️. Anyway thank you again , God Bless you , and I hope your health continues to improve ... 💕
Project Diaries Hi 🙋🏻. Just to let you know my good news , I wrote a very detailed mandatory letter to DWP and posted it on the 16th of May . On Saturday I had a letter from the DWP and they have given me back my full award . I am getting the same amount of PIP I had before . I had informed them I was prepared to go to appeal and they said that would not be necessary . I am still in shock TBH, but happy, very happy and relieved . It has been a horrendous few months , so many problems with my health , and family worries . I was honestly at breaking point , this couldn’t have come at a better time . I feel for everybody who are still fighting their individual battles with DWP and the system. I can only wish them all the luck in the world and the strength to keep fighting . God Bless and Thanks for all you do to help and advise 💕
Excellent video quite shocking how the system is made to grind you down good luck for the future ☺️
Feb 2023 - thank you so much for your video. Please don't let the haters define you. Lots of folk need your help. Hope you're okay at the moment.
Ask anybody who has not been effected by austerity and they will tell you its over, but we know different. Ask anybody who has no disability in their family and they will tell you most disables people are scroungers and besides they look OK, but we know different. Ask those who have been lucky enough to have a job all their lives and they will tell you there are plenty of jobs out there for the workshy. They will even tell you about somebody they know who is on benefits who has a 'big telly' a mobile phone and a mobility car and they look perfectly fit, but some of us can see past that. Keep up the excellent videos and lets hope Brexit is a force for good (don't hold your breath) HGV
The number of people telling me I'm a scrounger is unreal, though really I do want to work again at some point and I know full well some simply can't it's sad because I feel like there's people who have yeah genuine disablements stopping them from working most likely would want to work again at least in some capacity but simply can't due to their health, feel for people like that hugely :)
But yeah I cant right now but want to do the things I really like doing, but prepared fully to do some sort of ordinary job haha well sort of....
@@jeremysmith54565 Hope things work out for you Jeremy. HGV
@bill Bloggs There is one certainty in all of this. Whichever way it goes, the rich will stay rich and the poor will become poorer. Bonuses will be payed, reward for failure, tax avoidance, tax evasion, and any savings will be made at the bottom of the food chain. Food banks have become the norm at a time when we were about to spend a fortune build a bridge with a garden on it. HS2 is another vanity project that will be canceled only after we have spent a small fortune and turned lives upside down. Trains around the regions are ram packed with commuters, daily commutes are daily torture. There needs to be a change with fairness at its heart. HGV
Such an astute comment wise man. You SEE IT, some of us are lucky to be unplugged and see how it really works. Sometimes it causes us great pain to know, but I am glad I know regardless. ✌️
It's an absolute disgrace, I lost all my mobility part, I don't even leave the house anymore, unless it's Drs or hospital.
Liz,call money matters and they will get an appeal set up for you. Good luck.
Liza Barton Same here Liza , they have halved my PIP and taken away my mobility altogether . I am distraught , and TBH if it weren’t for my family I would end it all , life is nothing but one long struggle . All the best Liza x
@@suesmith3744 please don't think about ending it sue, you're a survivor not a victim, don't let the system beat you, I hope you get what you deserve, and not what someone else decides you deserve. Xx
Liza Barton Thank you for your kind words , I wouldn’t do it , it would hurt my family too much , however life is one big struggle , and sometimes you can’t help but think why do I bother 🤷♀️❗️❗️. I have written to the DWP today , outlining my concerns with the assessment procedure , to put it bluntly the assessor lied 🤥 costing me valuable points . I was on the higher rate of Living allowance , and the standard rate of mobility , now it’s been halved , well more than halved and the mobility allowance stopped altogether . So unfair ... I am determined to fight this injustice , what a horribly corrupt system this really is , picking on vulnerable people who need help and support the most ... Bless you , I hope everything works out for you too , Best wishes x
@@suesmith3744 wow I wish I was able to do that, what happened to you is a mirror image of what happened to me, I was on the highest of both, the woman told numerous lies, now I'm on middle rate, or whatever they call it care. I really hope you succeed. Xx
I would love to know how DWP think that people can AFFORD to make lots of permanent structural changes to the home. What's more, a large proportion of disabled people do NOT OWN their own home. It is entirely illogical!!
Exactly! It's Moronic to think people can pluck this kind of money out of thin air after they cut their benefits.
@@ProjectDiaries thanks for replying! It's an argument that I put forward on my last PIP form. The assessor didn't know quite what to say, other than "you're right." 7 months and still waiting for an initial decision here.
It's a disgrace! :(
I've just had all my pip taken from me, after 8 years! I already won a tribunal last time. Now I have to fight again. It's a vile system. I'd go to work if I could! I'm completely isolated by my illnesses. The assessor has lied! Again! The last one did too! I suggest EVERYONE records their assessment. You have to call whoever is organising it and tell them you want to record your assessment. They will then send you the equipment to record with, as you are not allowed to use your own! I didn't bother and decided I'd be ok with a witness with me. This has not prevented her from lying! Please, please get the recording equipment!
I've been through 3 tribunals and constant 'interviews' to manage what I go through. The first tribunal had a doctor in a wheelchair who laughed when I came in in a wheelchair! Always good to have people there. A friend had her solicitor in hers and he didn't take long. They won. I asked for curtains to be closed as all the assements are in very bright rooms. If you need a wheelchair, get someone to push you there. You should have been issued an NHS wheelchair as you obviously need one. I don't go into these places without a CAB officer. I also have disabilities which mean I will deteriorate, but I'm also called in and the stress is dreadful.
hi i had my pip tribunal today and passed it thank you for this video, it hwlped a loy
YES!!! That's what I wanna hear. Well done for sticking with this barbaric journey they put us through :)
@@ProjectDiaries thank you altho i had a friend come with mr and talk to them as well,
It is so good to see you again. I’m so sorry you are having such a horrible experience with those people. Thank goodness you have your parents for support. Privatization of government programs is outrageous! We have the same thing going on in the states. They have privatized prisons, and they are working on our schools now. It is the right wing movement around the world. They are trying to get rid of the middle class. Take care of yourself. What you are going through is just horrible!
Thank you so much for this video, I had a work assessment over the phone and the person plainly lied, claiming I was able to travel and follow appointments, look after myself etc. I really struggle with self care, cooking, eating, leaving the house, etc. and they decided I was fit for work. My support employment worked from the disability department was so outraged by the result and pushed me towards applying for a mandatory reconsideration.
Thank you for sharing your story. You are able to communicate so well your struggles, I do hope you are ok and that your channel can help millions of disabled people. God bless you.Many disabled people cannot voice their needs, and when they lose their carers or parents, they cannot access the system.It is unacceptable to see all of this.
It took me 18 months. So 1 & a half a year to sort it but with help of my cares the were there for me so keep it up dude let them know
I've been through this too, I have high functioning Aspergers syndrome, I am also Bi polar and have personality disorders.
My self and two friends received our assessments at around the same time.
I was at first turned down but went for Mandatory reconsideration my support worker wrote a very strong letter to the DWP as she was there and is an expert on my condition. and eventually I won.
I'm sad to say my two friends were not as lucky.
And they are now both dead by suicide. And I miss them terribly.
This system only favours the government it is part of their bigoted hateful agenda and discriminatory attitude to the disabled.
All these people killed by this government in their war on the poor if they had killed people in a real war by starving them by freezing them by withholding medication by curtailing their freedoms by stepping on their human rights they would be standing in front of a war crimes Tribunal. This is the same government lambasted by the UN secretary for the rights of the Disabled for their treatment of us. But they are being allowed by the great British public to get away with it.
This doesn't save them any money in fact it costs them more than they have ever paid. It doesn't prevent fraud because the system was too difficult to defraud when it was DLA you are lucky if you can get any of these benefits at all now. a it done absolutely nothing to bring the figures of those claiming disability benefits down why? Well, the answer is obvious because because the people who have managed to win whatever are very probably disabled. And why do people with life long difficulties that will only get worse have to go in every two years? It's just bullying people into early graves. Oh I have to correct my above statement they have brought the amount claiming disability down a bit by forcing them to take their own lives or they just died because of lack of care. These horrible rich bastards are more interested in making themselves richer by getting the Brexit they want and removing more our human rights than helping anyone in this country.
I'm so so SO sorry for what happened to your friends. I'm crying my eyes out right now, this reminded me of how the mental health team told me to call the Samaritans if I had any more suicidal thoughts. For a long time I was too anxious to even call the Samaritans, sometimes they were too busy to pick up which discouraged me even more. A few times people I talked to were quite blunt and unhelpful, one guy just told me we were on the phone for a long time by now and he had to go. I was referred for psychiatric evaluation at the beginning of March, thry only told me at the end of June that I was on the waiting list for therapy, no medication or diagnosis even after I asked for it repeatedly. Thry just called me to tell me I'll have group therapy from September for emotional regulation. They know I have complex PTSD from childhood abuse, S harassment and grooming as a child, domestic violence and domestic abuse etc. That's all they had to offer, group therapy after a 6 months waiting period. When I asked for medication I was told the GP should be able to deal with it and there is still no diagnosis 2 months later. Quite often I feel useless and invisible, even worse, a burden, and that's when intrusive thoughts about overdosing on pills or jumping in front of a car come by. I'm not shocked that your friends couldn't deal with it anymore. My heart goes out to you 🤗🤗🤗
"They are coming for your Pensions. They are coming for your benefits. They want their money back, and they will get it" George Carlin 2009
As I have commented previously, I am an ex-miner, The Tory Government and Labour before them, take a 50-50 split on the assets of the Mineworkers Pension Scheme, which now runs into Billions that they have taken, they took a Pay holiday in the late 80s and since then they have not put a single penny into the fund ( they are Guarentours of the fund) so not only are they robbing my Benefits they are robbing my Mineworkers Pension as well.
I’m so glad I found your video. I’ve just applied for mandatory reconsideration. I found that my report was full of lies and I am trying to prove that I need the extra 2 points for mobility. Part of me wants to give up but my gut feeling is telling me to keep fighting xx
Keep fighting but the system is designed for you to fail so prove them wrong! Those 2 points are so difficult to get now. They need to stop upping the Bankers income and help the needy. Good luck!
How disgusting for people with disabilities to be treated this way 😡 I have always be proud to pay my tax because it went to where it was needed (or so i thought). Looking after people less fortunate than me. I am saddened by our MP's that life seems to have come down to number crunchers and not about humanity, kindness and moral responsibility! Thank you for your videos you are an inspiration to me xx
Great video. My son's tribunal is today, he's been getting DLA since he was 3 and now refused PIP some 20 years later. Your video has removed some of the fear, but as he also has a hidden disability I'm not confident.
I have ME and was told I would have dla for life but now i have to fight to get pip and it's not looking good feel like giving up thanks for the video know how you feel.
I lost my pip hearing this week. It was over the phone audio. My pip advisor said its because I previously was trying to work before I claimed but I only lasted a few weeks due to my health . Now I'm going to reapply and start all over again.
I have my tribunal for pip in a couple of days. My health issues are bipolar, a variety of other issues including severe back pain that varies in severity. The last tribunal I had was over 10 years ago under the DLA system, it was the tribunal from hell and I wish now I had reported them. My mom came with me. My bipolar is hereditary and my Nan, her mom, committed suicide when I was a teenager, they focused on this point and pushed and pushed and had myself and my mom in tears, it was a disgusting and despicable attack, but I was so shaken, numb and totally blind sided, I was rendered speechless. This time round, I hope I’m stronger. Over the years I have learnt that I should make no apologies for who I am, I am not trying to pull the wool over their eyes, I am not lying and I tend to not suffer fools as easily, however, suffering from mental illness, I again now feel like an errant child about to be told off by the headmaster. Anyway, my pip assessment report was all total lies. The assessor put words in my mouth, said she witnessed no evidence of back pain (well, I followed her down the corridor and when I stood up at the end of the assessment, I had to support myself on her desk because my back had stiffened from sitting for 45 minutes, she specifically mentioned that I stood up ok, she didn’t see me struggle of need support because her back was to me - this whole system is a complete farce). There were loads of other inaccuracies, she questioned my heart problems and her report stated that I was on no meds for this, but I am and I told her I was. I even had the assessment recorded (another joke - I had to specially purchase 2 tape recorders and brand new unopened tapes - which aren’t refundable expenses). I had promised myself after my DLA tribunal years before that if this ever happened again, I wouldn’t just sit by. So this time I reported them and I also wrote to my MP who promised to raise the issues in parliament
Thank you your video how to make with my tribunal I was successful
Good to hear! Well done :)
Excellent video. I am just starting the DLA to PIP process and despite having muscular dystrophy and several other chronic medical conditions I know I am in for a tough road ahead. Information is about being forearmed.
Hopefully you will get it first time round but if not check out this video to help you continue the fight. Good luck! th-cam.com/video/ryAWwEdUybI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you. Really Helpful.
Watching your video gave me a better understanding of my condition, Social Anxiety Disorder, which helped me a lot, thank you for sharing your experience. Today as in 31,October, I attended my PIP Tribunal which was pure torture because my health condition is Social Anxiety Disorder, so facing the Judge, Doctor and two other people, one by my side who was from the DWP, put me in panic, leaving me crying and shaking almost all of the time that seemed to have no end with one question after another. When the tribunal was over I was asked to wait in another room for a few minutes before being called back in and told I have won the appeal, which for both myself and my lovely wife who was my representative, left us both feeling a great relief with much emotion. Was explained that I would receive the standard rate for both Mobility and Daily living, back dated from March 2021 and would continue to receive until March 2024 before being assessed again. Still can’t believe I won, not just receiving what am entitled too, but also beating the DWP.
pray for you mate my assessment coming up i really hope i get trough it you videos really gave me a insight into how it works.
Hope you are well bro. Waiting for your addictive videos
Hopefully back to regular video uploads soon... :)
We miss you. Hope you are doing well.
السلام عليكم
ممكن تواصل معك اخي عمير محمد
بخصوص esa و pip
I work for the DWP and totally understand
I completely understand because I am the same as you. I can barely walk 10 steps on a good day. But I know people who can walk further and drive miles on their own and they get full rate and a mobility car!
Great video man very informative. Thanks! Wualb
You really are a trooper who is an inspiration to all in such a vulnerable position these Conservative mp's need to be dealt with the same way they dealt with you I really hope that you will gain the support you need
Thank you! :)
I've gone through exactly like you, the stress and anxiety, I have club feet ,in pain all the time ,and they still hound me, nazis rounded up the disability and mentally ill ,and that's what's happening now, the government are evil .I hope your get what you are entitled to. x
Thank you for doing this, putting my mind at ease. I'm still waiting on a date for mine, its been 76 weeks waiting on tribunal and 106 weeks since I started my claim
Best of luck!
I got kicked off all my benifits I have arthritis in every joint spondylitis fybromyalgia chronic fatigue and now since all the stress I had a huge breakdown 3 years ago and my mental health collapsed in had 2 episodes of mania and almost died now I am.also diagnosed bi polar 2 which I believe was triggered by the stress I am 49 it virtually wiped me out and wrecked my life for years it's absolutely disgusting
i got kicked off 7 months ago no i owe thousands in rent arrears and most likely will soon be homeless in the last 4 months i have received £287 with rent off 450 a month
@@moist.teabag shocking please try and not loose your house maybe see a welfare reforms officer?
I too failed on the Mobility on the planning a route. Despite being hardly able to walk more than a few feet most days because I can plan a route I'm perfectly fine and only get lower rate when I had higher rate DLA. I too had a younger assessor and tbh he was fine, he could see I was in a lot of pain and never had me do the physical checks apart from my grip.
My physical disability is pretty obvious to most people but even so I still get the odd "get a job" comment. I do work from home part time as at 61 and physically disabled what is the chance realistically of me getting a job? My ability to work varies tremendously day to day from the physical aspect and the mental aspect. I often work at 2 and 3 am as that is when painkillers I take before bed kick in, I'm not sure there's many employers out there who are that flexible.
i had a similar experience. first they stopped my esa and said that i had to claim uc. i fought for 11 months to get the esa back with no payments being made, all the time they kept saying that i should claim uc whilst i waited but i refused because it felt right. i have since come across others who were forced to claim uc as they had no other income and they were never awarded esa again. when this happened to me, i was in a position to wait for the decision as i had an active dla claim but not for long. the pip form arrived on the doormat and it took me another14 months of fighting to get it awarded. so yeah i feel your pain in lmore ways than one. it's a long old struggle sometimes isn't it but we keep on keeping on with hope and a smile 😊
Good luck to you don’t give up. The hints and tips I strongly recommend are as follows- If you going to enter a building where there’s only steps and you have difficulty using them don’t go in because you and in particular the owners of the buildings may be breaking fire as well as health and safety regulations which will put you and anyone else at risk. Further, this would be in breech of disability accessibility regulations . Always try and check out the location of where assessments and tribunal are going to be held.
I waited for 62 weeks for my tribunal, the GP looked at my evidence before I got there, and gave it me without attendance by me, got a message a couple of hours before. Getting my back pay in a few days!
There is always the option of closing the claim and restarting the process again if unsuccessful.
What an atrocious state of affairs, its inhumane,im suffering from mental health and anxiety and am pulling my hair out with it, just an existence on universal credit, being put in a category of limited capability of work but no extra money, it really is disgusting
Thank You, I watched your video and found it very helpful. I am fighting an appeal at the moment and waiting for a court date,but am early on in the process. I too have scoliosis L4 L5 and have had two ops on my spine. Was on ESA for 10 years and then it stopped! The pain is so bad that smoking herb is better than morphine. As you know this disease affects all the vital organs,Bladder , kidney,etc. The stress. Has been so bad that I am getting breathing problems which is making my heart hurt my way to describe it! I thank you with all my heart and wish you many pain less days once this is sorted. Stay positive and remember your voice and you manner are helping so many people,I am a 53 year old woman so you ARE helping so many who know nothing me being one of those. THANK YOU please carry on helping us! I would like to see some more of your videos but don’t know how to. If you have time please could you tell me how? Stay positive stay strong don’t let the bastards break you! I would donate to you but have no money relying on hand outs and food bank!
I completely understand you troubles. I'm glad my video has helped you. never give up. I will do more videos as soon as I can walk again but in the mean time you can find a list of all my videos here th-cam.com/channels/QGv_dy-oLeu5SSgz2_8i8w.htmlvideos?view_as=subscriber
heartbreaking - surely 2019 will be better for you :)
I do hope so.. :)
@@ProjectDiaries , my very best wishes!
When I asked for a mandatory reconsideration, Capita actually changed several sections on the original report to push it through for decline.. I had to pick both reports to pieces and threaten legal action against them for falsifying information... at which point they caved in and gave me the higher rate mobility I needed without a tribunal.
I always wear make-up when I leave the house, basically to make myself feel better, I was actually criticised by the assessor for looking too presentable. when I complained it was removed in the second draft of their report. I will never wear make-up or take my medication before attending another assessment.
Interesting that they have such misconceptions about what a disabled person should supposedly look like
@@camellia8625 Absolutely, it's their job to understand what is going on under the surface, not to make you feel ashamed for taking care of your appearance. Not everyone wants to look disabled.
I am glad to see that you're not listening too the haters be strong stay strong you are doing a real video I love them all You are an awesome person through all your pain and suffering you are still smiling. through everything that has been dished out to you, you still smile and laugh. People that say different then they need a reality check and they need to look in the mirror. Keep up the great work and I hope that in 2019 you get all that you wish for and things turn for the better for you. You deserve so much more than you have received.
I'm glad I've seen this vid . I'm wating for my date to go and have no idea what I was expecting this is just relieved a bit of stress for me.
Good luck! It's an awful process to go through. I'm still waiting over 3 months for my reassessment >:(
Thank you.
Iv just done my tribunal for ESA and won. Unfortunately it flagged me up for a change onto universal bloody credit ( giving it its polite name ) because I was put on UC before January 1st 2019 the government is not paying the equivalent amount that I got on ESA with the disabled components. There is how ever a top up scheme for those that have migrated after that date to make sure you get the same amount. For those like me I have to wait for a law to be passed eventually.
After I won my esa case I thought I would be backpaid the money I would have gotten on the ESA with my disabled component but I was very wrong. All they did was back date the equivalent of UC which is a lot less as we all know. So the government have saved on just my case over £3000. And I am in debt to the tune of just under £1000. So all the worries and stress and sickness and lack of sleep and lack of dignity and self esteem was so worth it.
I have a friend who won't fight for his PIP because he said after seeing what I went through he knows it would kill him.
Thank you again for this video just to know I'm not the only one. I hope things improve and you don't have to do it all again.