ITALY'S REGIONAL HIGHSPEED TRAIN / FRECCIABIANCA ETR460 REVIEW / ITALIAN TRAIN TRIP REPORT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Hello and welcome to another Highspeed train review!
Today we will be riding aboard a Frecciabianca ETR460 trainset from Italy's capital city, Rome, to Civitavecchia, a port city 70km away. These regional 'White Arrow' highspeed services keep the smaller Italian towns and cities connected which dont have the highspeed lines served by Frecciarossa & Frecciargento services. Sit back and enjoy the ride!
Date of Filming: 3/8/20
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: Trenitalia
Departure: Rome/ Roma Termini, Italy
Arrival: Civitavecchia, Italy
Cost: €16.00 (Second Class, On-the-day Fare)
Check out my Trenitalia Frecciarossa 1000 Review where we travel between Venice & Milan on Italy's Flagship service @ 300km/h:
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Check out my Trenitalia Frecciargento ETR600 Review between Rome & Florence on the super tilting Pendolino trainset:
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Being from the Netherlands, having travelled on Italian trains quite a bit, I think they're quite good. They have reasonably reliable service, nice and comfortable trains (even the older ones) and they don't cost too much. I think the Italians are doing train travel right.
Absolutely yes! Couldn't agree more 😃
Hi, I'm Italian, every now and then there are some problems but overall they're fine. However in Italy the old trains are better than the new ones.
The other Frecciabianca Trainsets ETR 470 are now out of service in Italy. They are revised and now the first unit is sent to Trainose in Greece where it should arrive on Monday, start of the service between Thessaloniki and Athen should be the 25/03/2021.
Ooh that's interesting, I'll have to go and try them! 👍🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip etr 460 are still in service in Italy, etr 470 (that are really similar to 460 by the look) are being sent to Greece for Trainose, a company owned by FS Italiane
@@NonstopEurotrip the first unit arrived in Greece: th-cam.com/video/jviNXNJ0zkA/w-d-xo.html
Chę
28.03.2021 my friend :-) Best regards from Greece!
I’ve travelled on frecciabianca when I was 9 and when frecciabiaca used to be used on adriatic lines.
I’ve spent 8 hours on frecciabianca from barletta to milan, a very scenic route too.
Ah that's nice to know 😊
I need to know how you did it... I can't resist for more than 2 hours
Great video, as always! Nice to compare this unit with the same Pendolinos operated by ČD (Czech Railways). ČD have in both classes 2+1 seat configuration, which is more comfy.
Thanks Pete! I walked through a CD pendolino but didn't travel, it looked nice, but this year I will! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip Good to know :-D
2+1? In both classes? My congratulations to the CD company for this choise!
They used to be popular on the Adriatic railways on services between Milan, Bologna, Ancona, Pescara, Bari, Lecce and Taranto, but now have been replaced by Frecciargento. I travelled between Rome and Genoa, but on a night train
Still, not bad trains 🇮🇹🚈
Nice to see the good reason to go to visit the town of Civitavecchia, looks great at the sea. I hope we can travel again this autumn.
A lovely little town 😊
Recuerdos maravillosos, imperecederos de. Italia.
great video on the frecciabianaca etr460 train was busier than expected and i love the coastal scenes at the end
It's a great journey ☺️
@@NonstopEurotrip yes very much
I do not think it is so expensive, for 5 people you spend only 16 euros, with the InterCity you spend up to 84€ to go up to Grosseto (city that is about 60 km from Civitavecchia)
Fantastic italian trains.
3:30 ahhh the sweet sound of a pantograph going down 😍
🤤🤤🤤
Cool trains!)
Was on the ride of Frecciarossa from Rome Termine to Milano Centrale in January 2013... So much memories)))))
Excellent, they're great trains! 🇮🇹
Excellent trip report! My best regards from Greece :-)
Thank you! Greetings to you too! 😄
fyi: (almost) similar trains like this one will be in service on the Thessaloniki - Athens route soon, so you will have them also in Greece :)
@@sxflyer5410 I know it my friend... I will be in the first trip from Athens to Thessaloniki :-) Thank you :-)
your videos are so relaxing i love them
Thanks so much!! 😃
greetings from Perú, we only have Metro linea 1 here in Perú, plus a couple of tourist lines which charge a fortune to foreign tourists and are not as fast as the ETR460. People mostly travel by Double decker coaches, limited to 110km/h on the ´Carreteras´.
Greetings from London! I would love to visit Peru! 👍🏻😄
@@NonstopEurotrip Linea 1 is commuter line travelling thru´the centre of Lima on overhead viaducts. Currently Linea 2 is under construction and this is a subterranian line similar to many European underground systems. Linea 1 has a mixture of Italian built EMU´s from when the line first openned, and spanish built EMU´s (currently being delivered) which are to increase the frequency and double the line capacity.
Sounds exciting, I hope to get over to south America next year ☺️
It’s a smart looking unit
Not bad for '3rd tier' services 👌🏻🙂
06:30 Actually that’s not a Caravaggio but a rock (is always a ETR521/421 only that for Trenord/FNM are called Caravaggio to remember the painter Michelangelo Merisi said Caravaggio for his village of baptism about 30 kilometers from Milan while Trenitalia as it is doing in recent years has called the train with a music genre rock in this case) the Trenord/FNM Green and White livery represents the main colors of Lombardy while the rock uses the classic DTR livery (present also on Jazz for example) or particular liveries like that of Super Mario
railcolornews.com/2016/06/30/it-caravaggio-by-hitachi-rail-italy-the-new-star-for-regional-transport/
I have used the Civitavecchia station many times over the years when cruising to or from Italy. The one thing I always dread is the small steep staircase that must be negotiated with luggage when you arrive from Rome and are on your way to a cruise. I am always interested to see the number of cruise passengers who are not aware of the fact that there is no escalator or elevator and carrying several pieces of luggage is a real struggle. It is easier when traveling to Rome because many trains leave on the track next to the waiting room which does not require a staircase. I was hoping that your video would show the installation of an escalator but it still has not happened.
Nope, no lift as far as I could see! It does seem strange for a 'port station' 🤷🏻♂️
Local here. There have been lifts for as long as I can remember in the train station, but they are only in one of the 2 underpasses (and it's not the main one), so they are easy to miss, but they are there
Video's Score: 9.7/10 Stunning views and something worth mentioning is that Frecciarossa, Frecciargento and Frecciabianca are part of the wider high-speed network called “Le Frecce” or the arrows in English also they all mean different colours for example Frecciarossa (Red Arrow) Frecciarbianca (White Arrow) and Frecciargento (Silver Arrow) 👍
I've done all Le Frecce's now, and have still got some videos to release 🚅
Great reportage!
Thankage! 😊
This is POG! 👏👏 Good trip report
Thank you!!
The entire 460's fleet are now on sale together with the E402B (220 km/h locomotives) and other rolling stock. If they do not find buyers, probably for the 460's there will be the demolition as they are very dated.
Or send to Greece?
@@NonstopEurotrip Most likely the more modern 485's will go to Greece. I do hope that refurbished 460's will go to Greece too. With all the 485 and 460, this will be a very nice fleet to run on the main line Athens-Thessaloniki, so the other IC can be moved on other suburban tracks.
Great video !!
Thanks!
Thank you for an excellent report. I have travelled on the ETR470s which are similar, when in service on the Cisalpino routes with the SBB. I thought they were wonderful ! Sadly the SBB found them unreliable, and have now been replaced by the ETR610s
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it! 👍🏻😄
I traveled by train 🚆 from Rome to Civitavechia twice and I everytime it was for the cruise 🛳 and I was on the train 🚆 was finishing in Civitavechia without continuing further.
A nice ride 😊
@@NonstopEurotrip Yes but no videos and I posted a videos after the ride and here is one at th-cam.com/video/ypszIzGqdWc/w-d-xo.html. That was in 2019 when I did a Greek isles cruise from Civitavechia with Holland America line Koningsdam.
Congratulations for finding the only clean and fully working train toilet in Italy :p
I actually found another one too, on a frecciarossa 🤣
Great report! Only one trip on a Frecciabianca for me, from Pisa to Milan a little over a year ago. I recall it was a bit bumpy for an HST, and worth the extra €10 for 1st class on the 3ish hour ride.
Still prefer Italo, though 😎
I also prefer Italo 😍😅
Three years ago I was on this same route in First Class to get to the cruise port with my family; I found the ride to be pleasant - the only downside was that it was there were only stairs available upon arrival at the platform in Civitavecchia and it was certainly not convenient when carrying a bunch of large pieces of luggage...especially when I was the only younger person around and had to do the carrying! It is kind of surprising how the trains don't seem to use the platform that is closest to the station house considering the amount of cruise passengers arriving into this station that are invariably going to have plenty of larger pieces of luggage and forced to haul their bags up and down stairwells and tunnels.
Yeah that is strange, you'd think they arrive into the nearest platform to the road. But oh well, Trenitalia eh 😅🤷🏻♂️
@@NonstopEurotrip indeed! 😆 One would’ve thought that the facilities would better accommodate that kind of usage but...🤷🏻🇮🇹🚄😛
nice highspeed train, like :)
Me too 😊
That's a lovely route alright - me and my family got a train from Fiumicino airport to Civitavecchia (via Trastevere) on local trains when we were going on a Med cruise in 2018. Thankfully we had finished filling in and attaching our cruise labels on to our luggage by the time it really got scenic. 😂
Ooh lovely, a Mediterranean cruise is high on my to-do list post pandemic 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip they're fantastic - entertainment and activities all day and evening, food and drink on tap and arriving somewhere different every day - they're basically floating hotel resorts. Expensive but worth it. 👌
Please next rewiew at Leonardo Express, this trains from Fiumicino aeroporto to Roma Termini and back
Maybe later in the year 🙂
Yes!! thanks, i traid it, train really nice but Is a Little bit expensive
GREAT VIDEO!
Thank you!
I rode it between Trieste and Venice, but it was a different train types. It looked like older coaches with a bulky loco head, a bit like the old german TEE trains.
Yeah, there is a loco hauled frecciabianca too ☺️
Wow nice video!🤩🚄 Like👍
Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
This is not a pendolino anymore. The tilting mechanism has been removed from this class of trains (as well as from the Greek 470). Now it's just a regular EMU.
I was going to explain that, but didn't want to get too complicated 🤣
Of course. It was an hydraulic system, prone to faults and expensive to repair (same for the 470, who had a special tilting mechanism created together with the SBB because of the particular conformation of the Sviss tracks). The only ones with the tilting mechanism are the 485's and the 600 and 610 ETR.
Cool video! What a beautiful train! Windows seem very small though, only downside :(
Thanks Ben! Can't say I noticed them being small from the inside 🤣
11:15 No, the first and last time (by now) I went to another country was to Fátima, Portugal on a tour to different sightseeing monuments and cities (Including Lisbon) in Central Portugal.
Video's Final Score: 9.4
P.S: While watching this video, I lunched a quarter of roasted chicken with french fries, or as british people say, chips
Another P.S (And this is an important question to answer): Why this video was released at late night between yesterday and today?
Thank you! I made a mistake with scheduling the video 🙈🙈🙈
@@NonstopEurotrip Oh, so I think you scheduled the video to be uploaded at 1 o'clock in the night CET (12 hours earlier) instead of scheduling the video's uploading at 1 o'clock in the afternoon CET. Well, I'll tell you a fun fact: Take care of what time it is to upload a video
@@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt hey man don't be so harsh
@@allstarpilot7478 I'm not harsh, I told him/her to learn from his/her mistakes
Great video! Fantastic trip! New friend here🔔👍🏻🌻🌼🌸
Thank you! Welcome! 🤗
nice vlog !
Thanks! 👍🏻
Of this type of train (Pendolino 3rd Gen) I have only used the one in the Czech Republic, but many many times so I’m quite used to them and I definitely like them. The difference is though that on the Czech ones the 2nd class comes in a 2-1 configuration, which I find awesome! How tight were the seats on the Italian one, because those trains are narrower due to the tilting technology, so I was wondering if it felt squeezed in a 2-2 config.
Also I wanted to check out the Finnish one last year, now hopefully this year! :)
I'd like to check out the Finnish and Czech ones soon! I didn't find three Italian ones particularly tight at all 😊
12:34 Costa Deliziosa and MSC Divina cruise ships in the port!
Ooh interesting 😄
As a suggestion, I would really appreciate info on the distance traveled and the time the journey took. Otherwise, awesome report, subscribed.
See 4.28 😉
@@NonstopEurotrip didn't mean just for this video. For all of them, ideally in the description. Thank you, you have a wonderful train geek channel!
No worries, glad you like them. (Most) new videos have the distance and duration in them at the time we leave the departure station 🙏🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip thank you. BTW, meant to ask, are you Dylan from Dylan's travel reports? The style is eerily similar between the two channels. Sorry to have potentially started a conspiracy theory if you're not :)
Very good for regional services. What type of camera do you use? 🇬🇧
GoPro Hero 7 Black
@@NonstopEurotrip Excellent! Good choice 🇬🇧
That's the Frecciabianca 8616?? That train has been taking me to Grosseto every summer for more than 5 years... I'm sad that I can't see my little train anymore... 😢
Maybe again soon 🙂
I am sure it was one like that I was on from Roma Termini to Caserta near Naples. It was a frecciargento and this was in 2016. The old frecciabianca trains were loco hauled at that time with older intercity type carriages and a DVT at the non loco end of the train. That one you travelled on there - did they used to be frecciargento trains before?
The frecciabianca ETR480s (which can also run under 25kV on high-speed lines) were converted to ETR485 Frecciargentos a while ago, but yeah, basically the same train
Thanks for clarifying that. I enjoy your rail vlogs. 👍
There are still loco hauled Frecciabiancas, mostly by E402b Loco
Thanks Davide - those loco hauled frecciabiancas are still on the go. I have never been on one. I’ve only been on the frecciargento (Rome to Caserta, going on to Lecce) and the frecciarossa (Milan to Venice). They are great trains.
@@markm-1976 those are really powerful Locos, you’ve basically been on high speed services then, and yes they are really good.
Frecciaargento has higher speed (250kmh) compared to Frecciabianca (200kmh) and they are now operated whit: etr485, Etr600 - the duck, and etr700 (we bought on sale from Dutch railways 😅 but they do sometimes suffer of technical problems).
Frecciabianca use 460 stock (like the one in the video) the only frecciabianca train capable of 250kmh speed; 404 stock and 402b coupled with z1 passenger cars are limited at 200kmh.
Glad you enjoyed the railways in our contry 👍🏻
good view from #Bangkok #Thailand
Thanks! 😃
Me when i realize the fastest train in my country is a regional in italy
Lol 😂
the english announcement voice sounds kind of like theresa may
What a career change 😂
Power socket for smarphone?
Yes 👍🏻
I want take FRECCIABIANCA ETR460.
Thank you, nonstop eurotrip! So, the introduction of your video is not long, since you show us essential things: the entrance to the station, the station. It is very important for me. I like when you show the station. You explain well. On the other hand, I am a little disappointed for your presentation of the train, or more precisely of the seat of the train. You went a little too fast and for example, if you know what I mean, you did not measure if the distance between the seat and the other was sufficient enough with you. I don't know if you took advantage of this (short) trip. In my opinion, it is very expensive. Especially for such a short trip. I would have taken the train much cheaper than you showed us. In addition, he stops more times !!! Too cool for a train fanatic. Your conclusion is excellent, but in my opinion you did not focus enough on the train this time. Anyway, I had more the impression that you were on vacation on this train, in other words that you were taking care of other things. But hey, the video is good anyway, don't worry. I liked. Thanks to you !!!
Sorry to disappoint you Louis, I'll try harder in the next video. 😉 I have also filmed the return journey on the cheaper train for another video. Glad you still liked it tho 🙂
Thank you, nonstop eurotrip! I'm afraid I was a little too harsh in my previous opinion. I love all of your videos, you know, but there are some videos that I like better than others. You are doing a great job. Can't wait to watch your video on the cheaper train and see what you thought of it. Thanks to you !!!
Good video, but must confess I do prefer vlogs with folk speaking rather than text
Thanks and sorry I guess 😂
Frecciabianca has a top speed of 200 km/h, not 250.
The train is capable of 250
Η Βουλευτής Β3 Νοτίου Τομέα Αθηνών Σοφία Σακοράφα κατέθεσε στις 13/1/2021 ερώτηση προς τον Υπουργό Υποδομών & Μεταφορών (της Ελλάδας), κ. Κωνσταντίνο Καραμανλή σχετικά με την προμήθεια των νέων αμαξοστοιχιών από την ΤΡΑΙΝΟΣΕ:
Το κείμενο της ερώτησης:
Σε πρόσφατα δημοσιεύματα του τύπου, τα οποία έχουν -μάλιστα- σχεδόν πανηγυρικό τόνο, ανακοινώνεται η προμήθεια από την ΤΡΑΙΝΟΣΕ πέντε αμαξοστοιχιών, με τη νέα ονομασία “Λευκό Βέλος”, που αναφέρονται ως τρένα “πρώτης γενιάς”, με αναφερόμενο κόστος 52 εκατομμύρια ευρώ. Το πρώτο από αυτά θα φτάσει από την Ιταλία στη Θεσσαλονίκη στις 18 Ιανουαρίου 2021, ενώ το πρώτο του δρομολόγιο προγραμματίζεται για την 25η Μαρτίου, “με αφορμή τον εορτασμό 200 ετών από την επανάσταση του 1821”, σύμφωνα με τις επίσημες ανακοινώσεις.
Στα δημοσιεύματα εξαιρείται η δυνατότητα σε αριθμό επιβατών, ότι διαθέτουν βαγόνι - εστιατόριο και ότι μπορούν να αναπτύξουν ταχύτητες 200 χλμ./ω (στο ελληνικό δίκτυο ως 160),
Η πραγματικότητα, δυστυχώς δεν ανταποκρίνεται καθόλου στον πανηγυρικό τόνο των ανακοινώσεων και των δημοσιευμάτων. Τα πραγματικά δεδομένα δημιουργούν, τουλάχιστον, έντονο προβληματισμό:
Πρόκειται για αυτοκινητάμαξες της σειράς ETR (Elettro Treno Rapido) 470, ιταλο-ελβετικής κατασκευής, μεταξύ 1993 και 1996, συνολικά εννέα (9) τον αριθμό, που διατέθηκαν αρχικά προς χρήση στην Ελβετία. Τα αποτελέσματα ήταν απογοητευτικά, κυρίως λόγω των συχνών και πολλαπλών βλαβών τους, ενώ είχαν και υψηλότατο κόστος συντήρησης (4 φορές μεγαλύτερο από τα τρένα InterCity). Η οριστική απόφαση για απόσυρσή τους ελήφθη όταν ένα από αυτά κάηκε, στις 17 Μαΐου 2009. Ο εκπρόσωπος της Ελβετικής Ένωσης Μεταφορών και Περιβάλλοντος τα χαρακτήρισε - τότε - ως «μη άξια των Ελβετικών Ομοσπονδιακών Σιδηροδρόμων» ενώ ο Διευθύνων Σύμβουλος των Ε.Ο.Σ. δήλωσε ότι ήθελε «να τερματίσει αυτήν τη φρίκη» (!)
Έτσι, το 2009, όλες αυτές οι αυτοκινητάμαξες πέρασαν οι 4 στην ελβετική SBB και οι 5 στην ιταλική Trenitalia. Το Μάιο του 2011 η SBB ανακοίνωσε ότι δικά της 4 οχήματα θα αποσυρθούν, μέχρι το τέλος του 2015, λόγω του εκσυγχρονισμού του τροχαίου υλικού της. Τον Απρίλιο του 2014, η μία από αυτές ακινητοποιήθηκε οριστικά και χρησιμοποιήθηκε για την παροχή ανταλλακτικών για τις άλλες 3. Παρά τις έντονες προσπάθειες της εταιρείας, δεν κατάφερε να βρει αγοραστή για να τις μεταβιβάσει, ούτε στην Ανατολική Ευρώπη, και αναγκάστηκε να τις διαλύσει, όλες, στις αρχές του 2016. Οι υπόλοιπες 5 αυτοκινητάμαξες εξακολούθησαν να χρησιμοποιούνται στην Ιταλία, μετά δε το 2016 στη γραμμή Ρώμη - Ρέτζιο Καλάμπρια.
Αυτούς τους συρμούς έρχεται, πλέον, να αγοράσει η ελληνική ΤΡΑΙΝΟΣΕ (!!). Πρόκειται για πλήρως απαξιωμένο υλικό, αποτυχημένο κατά τη χρήση του, για το οποίο δεν είχε βρεθεί αγοραστής μέχρι να εμφανιστεί η πρόθυμη ΤΡΑΙΝΟΣΕ και για το λόγο αυτό, μάλιστα, οι μισοί σχεδόν συρμοί αυτού του τύπου έχουν, ήδη, προ ετών, διαλυθεί.
Μπορείτε παρακαλώ να επιβεβαιώσετε ή να διαψεύσετε;
@@Maloenton-Agency Μακάρι φίλε. Και εμείς αυτό ευχόμαστε, να μην έχουν πρόβλημα...
This was a tilting train
ETR 450, Real italian train....Frecciarossa is canadian and Italo is french ! 😉👍
😂😂😂
they are all former Italian factories bought by foreign companies.
Allegro Russian Finnish line
Maybe soon 😉
7:57 boring I don’t like restroom reviews.
What about the rest of the video? 😂